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Speaker 2: The World's a pigeon podcas.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: Reportedly, allegedly, there's a certain person still visiting here.

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Speaker 3: They told Evan to get out of the bushes this morning.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing there?

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Speaker 4: I had a dream, littlecular reason why he didn't sign here.

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Speaker 5: So you had a dream that you were the reason

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Speaker 5: he didn't sign Yeah, yep, he woke up in a sweat.

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Speaker 4: Jessica, I just really don't like Phil's Moabia. Their fandom

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Speaker 4: is insufferable, and.

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Speaker 5: It's unlike the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: No, it's insufferable because they are not the Patriots. Like

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Speaker 4: they can talk smack to Patriots fans. It's like, what

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Speaker 4: are you talking about? Like you have not won a

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Speaker 4: single thing. Your your history is choking. You are four

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Speaker 4: super Bowls in a row losing, Like you know how

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Speaker 4: hard that is to lose all four.

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Speaker 6: I was gonna say, letitious swan, that's suet so no one.

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Speaker 5: No one, No one accidentally swears more in the show

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Speaker 5: than Deuce.

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Speaker 2: I still say he's a clutch play but.

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Speaker 5: Againle I think it's tangible.

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Speaker 1: This is Patriots unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, and we're gonna be talking Patriots for

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Speaker 2: the next two hours. The gang's all here, it's Deuce,

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Speaker 2: it's Evan Tamara, Paul, myself and Matt and Nabooth. So

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Speaker 2: lots to talk about, unfortunately and unfortunately, but I mean,

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Speaker 2: we have to lead off with the news of the day,

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Speaker 2: which is Jack Jones' uh, last Friday, being arrested at

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Speaker 2: Logan with two guns loaded guns in his carry on.

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Speaker 2: And and today he was at court for his first appearance,

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Speaker 2: released on thirty thousand dollars bond and he has to

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Speaker 2: go back to court in August eighteenth, I believe, for

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Speaker 2: his arraignment or something like that. But he pleaded not guilty,

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Speaker 2: not guilty, had his lawyer with him. But not looking

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Speaker 2: good for the Patriots. Number two projected cornerback. No.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we've had some spirited the debate about this already.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, the lawyer came out and I know Evan,

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Speaker 6: we saw her come out, and makes it sound like

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Speaker 6: he has a case. Okay for me personally, you know,

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Speaker 6: we don't know everything yet, but based on what the

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Speaker 6: initial report was, that he brought two loaded handguns into

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Speaker 6: an airport with extended magazines, I mean my feeling, and

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Speaker 6: I know, you know there are other takes on this,

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Speaker 6: but I feel like he's he's done.

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Speaker 2: The lawyer all I heard was railing against social media

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Speaker 2: for calling him a thug, which is not a case.

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Speaker 2: What case did? Yeah, I don't, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what she's and it seemed like she

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Speaker 6: spent a lot of time talking about that.

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Speaker 4: That was actually probably that was the quote that got grabbed,

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Speaker 4: but that was like ten seconds.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well did she actually because listen, I'm all ears,

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping that there's that explanation. I can't imagine what

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Speaker 4: Okay, So here here's the money quote of what she said.

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Speaker 4: The facts of this case or that they found two

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Speaker 4: He had no intention of bringing any guns into Logan

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Speaker 4: is his case, negligence just pure I had no idea

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Speaker 4: what was going on that that's gonna end up being

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Speaker 4: his case, and it sounds to me like they feel

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Speaker 4: probable cause hearing, So it's gonna there's gonna be witnesses

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Speaker 2: So that's that's there is one thing that she said

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Speaker 2: she said, you know, I want to thank the Patriots

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Speaker 6: From what she said, yeah, we have no idea if

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Speaker 6: that's it, I don't know. I mean, there's a legal

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Speaker 6: don't know what exactly that was. I know he came

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Speaker 3: He's a pretty good player. He played well this spring.

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Speaker 6: I just think that if this is actually what happened,

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Speaker 6: like that seems impossibly stupid to me. So if that's

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 6: I know there's nuance to it, and there's gonna be

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Speaker 6: a case and all those kind of things, and you

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Speaker 6: can tell me how we made that mistake, but I'm

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Speaker 6: sorry if you do that in Massachusetts, you.

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Speaker 2: Take his He had no intention of bringing to guns,

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Speaker 2: so means that either somebody put them there, he didn't

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Speaker 6: Well yeah, and I mean and again in Massachusetts gun

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Speaker 6: I mean, it goes beyond I mean, what if they're

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Speaker 6: like seven different counts.

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Speaker 2: They want to own a gun, which is fine, you

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Speaker 2: got to own the responsibility of owning a gun, right,

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Speaker 2: but these are these are illegal magazines.

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Speaker 3: So they're.

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Speaker 6: Upon things, So like, sure, you can preach negligence and

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Speaker 6: say I didn't know, or someone put it in there,

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Speaker 6: until someone comes in the midst that they did that,

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Speaker 6: or you have tangible proof that someone put it in there.

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Speaker 6: You're the guy who walked into the airport with the guns, right.

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Speaker 7: I just don't think it looks good because he doesn't

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Speaker 7: as it is, So it'd be different if this if

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Speaker 7: someone with a clean slate who's like never been in trouble. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: that that's where I'm like, this gets sticky because you

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Speaker 6: And I heard over the weekend they were talking about

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Speaker 6: the you know, the thing that happened at the restaurant

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Speaker 6: so I mean, my my thing is, like, does that

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Speaker 6: if it was a misdemeanor now, I guess is what

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Speaker 2: But I still think it counts though.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't it count overall?

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Speaker 2: And when when they're taking this into consideration judgment.

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Speaker 4: Based off what her His lawyer said and his I

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Speaker 4: might be getting her name wrong, but it's a Rose

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Speaker 4: Scapaccio is her lawyer, and there's actually a Netflix documentary

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Speaker 4: of her getting somebody off from murder, like completely acquitted

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Speaker 4: You know they I think it's Sean Ellis was the

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Speaker 4: guy's name that that she got off and it's it's

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Speaker 4: So he's got a real powerhouse legal So.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say, you know, she does get him off

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Speaker 2: know what's up man's you know, like, Okay, you got off,

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Speaker 2: you got yourself a good lawyer, and she got you off.

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Speaker 2: But I want to know who the hell do I

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Speaker 6: And it's not going to be so cut and dry

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Speaker 6: that he's going to get off next week and it's

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Speaker 6: all behind him, like he's got a case two days

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Speaker 6: before the packers came. I mean, this is going into

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Speaker 6: the season, so I don't know legally what the Patriots

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Speaker 2: Listen, in the NFL, there is precedent of people who

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Speaker 2: have been accused of something and during that time they

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Speaker 2: still played until things played out. Now, the exception is

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Speaker 2: when the commissioner got you know, brought in and a

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Speaker 2: where he suspends the player with pay during the time,

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Speaker 2: which you know, until the legal system can take its course.

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Speaker 2: But I don't see Goodell stepping in in this one,

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Speaker 2: you know, But I don't know. It's it's crazy. It's like,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 2: You just got out of mini camp and.

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Speaker 3: You know in a day, I mean to day and

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Speaker 6: You know, what's that famous story Bill talking about like

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Speaker 6: he's on the golf course with somebody done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which I.

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Speaker 6: Can let you guys tell again, But that's exactly what

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I do you think too? Like the tweet that

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Speaker 7: was pulled up from him about when he was referring

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Speaker 7: to Jahn Morant of like, how could you let something

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Speaker 7: goes back to intent. Do we think that he really

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's but like I do the

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Speaker 2: thing that they tweeted out to John Morant, who was

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Speaker 7: So, I'm like, why would you say that but then

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe something one of John Moran's people planted.

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Speaker 7: Take the attention off of Ja Morant and now put

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Speaker 7: it on Jack Jones.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what to do.

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Speaker 4: They weren't his guns, right, we don't know know?

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Speaker 2: Well I I heard one was unregistered.

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Speaker 5: So one of them is his gun. So at the

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Speaker 5: very least he has know where his guns are, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean best casey and that's a that's best case scenario.

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Speaker 5: He wouldn't be on my team, Yeah, yeah, he wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: No chance guns domestic violence. I can't look the other

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially I know a lot of other teams do.

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Speaker 5: I'm not trying to come off pollyanny ish, like I

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Speaker 5: know a lot of other teams look the other way

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Speaker 5: and they keep these guys and I hate it, and

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Speaker 5: I make fun of the other teams. I'm going to

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Speaker 5: make fun of my team, just just like I do

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Speaker 5: the other teams. Tyreek Hill wouldn't be on my team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I know You've been very consistent over the

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Speaker 2: years with that. You You would have a team of

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Speaker 2: choir boys, and that's.

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Speaker 5: Fine, and I'd lose. And I'm fully aware that I

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Speaker 5: would lose. I would be an unsuccessful general manager because

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Speaker 5: I try to get good people.

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Speaker 7: On my I would definitely rather have a team of

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Speaker 7: Matthews later so whatever, And just you know, to use

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Speaker 5: If Matthew Slater brought two guns on the on the

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Speaker 5: Because I haven't really actually saying you got to let

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I just want to know did he have

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Speaker 2: And like I said, I can't imagine what the story

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Speaker 4: This is my point. This is this is my only

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Speaker 4: let's at least hear out. Yeah, Like, let's say somebody

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Speaker 4: he's making lots of money, Like, you don't know what

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Speaker 2: Let's let's play Patriots PR. None of us are in

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Speaker 2: team is gonna suspend you with pay? Would you do that? Like,

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Speaker 3: I mean, especially with how they like to run things

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Speaker 6: I mean, they don't want guys to talk when they

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Speaker 2: But the rules are like, you know, you have to

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Speaker 6: I just I totally you know, understand Evan's point, and

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Speaker 3: That he had when you drafted him. You took a

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Speaker 6: He did get suspended by the team already once, so

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Speaker 6: somebody blackmail, what kind.

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Speaker 3: Of people are you involved with?

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Speaker 6: Like this is your continuing to follow down the path

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Speaker 2: You need that boundary corners here. And I don't think

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Speaker 5: I think I think this is an easy one. It's

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Speaker 4: This one to me is easy, right, This one's easy. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Deal with promise. I think he's a promising guy. But

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Speaker 5: I think people are sort of taking that, Like, I

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Speaker 7: I have a question, Fred, Yes, So you know how

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Speaker 7: have you ever been charged whatever?

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Speaker 4: Whatever?

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Speaker 5: Convicted?

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Speaker 7: Convicted?

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Speaker 2: So say if that.

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Speaker 7: Were one of us and we that that same thing

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Speaker 3: If you got arrested, yes this weekend for bringing gun?

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Speaker 7: Yes, like like because as an employee, we.

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Speaker 5: We don't even pretend that any of us would still

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Speaker 7: Seriously, I mean that.

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Speaker 2: Was us on Friday. I don't know what the actual.

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Speaker 7: Protocol, Like, what what is the protocol if if I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's an employment law questions.

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Speaker 2: HR would probably tell me what I have to do,

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Speaker 2: I want to listen, but you're probably gone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like the blackmail angle, like if someone really like

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Speaker 2: What do you involved in?

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Speaker 5: I think the best you could possibly hope for is

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Speaker 2: Wh you have to be responsible for your fire exactly.

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Speaker 4: But that's the case.

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Speaker 7: I will say, like there have been and of course

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Speaker 4: Say why, but why does he owe the money? Like

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Speaker 4: I think you back to. I just don't think he's

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Speaker 4: to to work around it. For Jack Jones, his film

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Speaker 4: Practic might or Guy Fieri is So does all these

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Speaker 4: if you want to shut him down until this plays

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Speaker 2: It just seems like trouble is following this guy and

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Speaker 2: I want to know who's on Who is this guy?

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Speaker 2: Why is he? You know? Should we have him on

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Speaker 6: It's like the root thing for all of us though,

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Speaker 6: it's just how could you possibly be if you did

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Speaker 6: like that like that? I just think that's what everyone

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Speaker 6: but you're gonna be in trouble for that. There's no

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Speaker 2: But it like I mean, I I put an extra

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Speaker 7: it just doesn't make.

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00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,959
Speaker 4: Sense, That's what to me though, it's more about like

440
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,119
Speaker 4: what circles are you running in? Who are your friends? Like,

441
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 4: who are the what is where are you going like

442
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,159
Speaker 4: with that type of ammunition and that that type of

443
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 4: you know, weapons like that to me is more about

444
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 4: the future for Jack Jones. And that's like what's the

445
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 4: scary part is like the Paul's point, like we have

446
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 4: to get on a plane with this guy like in

447
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 4: a couple of months, Like those are the types that

448
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 4: you just don't why are you running in these circles?

449
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 4: And I think that there are warning signs of players

450
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 4: in the past that these little things come up and

451
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, a major, major thing comes up,

452
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 4: you know, a couple of years down the line, and

453
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 4: you had these warning signs and you just you can't

454
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 4: just ignore it, you know.

455
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 6: Do you feel like, I mean, you guys can speak

456
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 6: more to this and maybe this is not just doesn't

457
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 6: does the Aaron Hernandas think still hang over this organization

458
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 6: in a way that like this just that they can

459
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 6: to laurance policy with any of this kind of stuff

460
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 6: and any.

461
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about the no tolerance, but I

462
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 2: think the lesson there was there were warning signs.

463
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 4: That's that was sort of my point.

464
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

465
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't want to bring the name he did, no, but.

466
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 2: That that was you know, that's the thing that came

467
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 2: out in the documentaries and everything, is that there were

468
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 2: warning signs with this guy, you know.

469
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 5: And that you know, when when Hernandez happened, you know,

470
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 5: and then you get all the aftermath, you immediately do that.

471
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 4: You go back in your mind and you're like, did

472
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 4: I know?

473
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 5: You know? And I you know, I'm not going to

474
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 5: pretend that I had a lot of in depth conversations

475
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 5: with Aaron Hernandez.

476
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 2: I didn't.

477
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 5: And most of the time I did talk to him

478
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 5: was in scrums, just like with most players. But there

479
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 5: were some times and I and I never got that feeling.

480
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 5: But you start to think, was I unsafe at any time?

481
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 5: Like I do like I do, I personalize it, was

482
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 5: I ever unsafe with this guy? He clearly was unhinged,

483
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 5: And that's the first thing I thought of, and that's

484
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 5: why I mentioned the thing about.

485
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 2: Who was it? Like, was it the Wes Welker story?

486
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I mean that's like if you're Wes Welker,

487
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 5: just not like that's what that's like your blood rush

488
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 5: is cold, right, like and you made he made fun

489
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 5: of him as he was watching film and then he

490
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 5: stormed out, Like who knows if like if it was

491
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 5: the wrong day, he might have stormed out and came

492
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 5: back and done something.

493
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: Well, so you know that one guy that he shot,

494
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: it was because he bumped.

495
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 5: Umped him in the bar, you know. Yeah, so that's

496
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean I haven't seen any evidence

497
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 5: like to you know, to be fair to Jack Jones,

498
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 5: I haven't seen any of this kind of violence in

499
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 5: his past, where Hernandez had a laundry list of violence

500
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,400
Speaker 5: in his past. So I'm not trying to equate those two.

501
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 5: But at the same time, they both involved guns and

502
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 5: and and and that to me has got to be

503
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 5: something that that that the organization has to really look

504
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 5: long and.

505
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: And now I'm a sucker, I really am. You know,

506
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 2: if if Jack Jones comes to me, it's like and

507
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: has this are you know this explanation, like you want

508
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 2: to come back and tells me, you know, I really

509
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: want to be a better person, blah blah blah, Like

510
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 2: I could see myself falling for that, you know, yeah,

511
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: I could see myself falling through.

512
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 5: I think that's what her name is, did right, I know.

513
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: But he's a.

514
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 5: Charm could be a charming person.

515
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 4: This is so he went to USC, funks out of USC,

516
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 4: gets caught at the pandemic express transfers, falls in the

517
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 4: draft because of maturity and off field concerns, and then

518
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 4: gets suspended last and then like so at what point

519
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 4: you can't fall for the story every single time?

520
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 5: I know? Right? You know, yeah, that's the thing that separates,

521
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 5: you know, if you have you know, this is the

522
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 5: guy who you're rolling the dice with as a draft pick.

523
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 5: And that's why I think it's always more dangerous. And

524
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 5: I think if you look, most of the guys that

525
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 5: they took, character concerns have not always worked. And I

526
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 5: think it's pretty there's a pretty clear delineation when you

527
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 5: take a Corey Dillon or Randy Moss or whatever. And

528
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 5: you know, Albert Haynesworth, you know, you roll the dice

529
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 5: with a guy like that, and well, they've had success

530
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 5: with those in the past. Yeah. Corey Dillon, like he

531
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 5: came in, he had a great two thousand and four season.

532
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 5: By the middle of two thousand and five he was

533
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 5: already a pain in the ass. Randy Moss a little

534
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 5: bit longer, but kind of. But you're looking at those

535
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 5: I would say I would do those again. I would

536
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 5: do Dylan and Moss again. It worked, But you're taking

537
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 5: guys that are already established in their NFL careers. You're

538
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 5: not looking to get ten years out of those guys.

539
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 5: You draft a guy you're hoping, if it works, you're

540
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 5: gonna get six, seven, eight years out of them. I

541
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 5: think it's if the guy is a bad seed or

542
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 5: you know, chances are something's gonna surface. And with this guy,

543
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 5: as Evan just said, it surfaced immediately. He ended up

544
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 5: getting suspended in his first season.

545
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: So let's just say after August eighteenth, when he has

546
00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 2: to go back, there's this story, this explanation. Do you

547
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: think that the Patriots are should get that story out

548
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: there to at least tell fIF this is why we're

549
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 2: willing to wait, or do they remain silent and nobody

550
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: ever knows, Like why the Patriots are willing to wait?

551
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: I mean, from a pr.

552
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 5: Standard, if I were, if I would, I would wait.

553
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 5: I think if you.

554
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: Don't think legally, you need to protect yourself.

555
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 5: If you don't say anything, you can't say anything wrong.

556
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm just failing to like understand. I

557
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 4: keep coming back to, like, is the player worth all

558
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 4: of this? Like, and I'm not saying that you completely,

559
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 4: you know, throw the kid to the wolves, but like.

560
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 5: Well, if they choose to keep them on the team,

561
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 5: like right now, they've they've chosen so far to write

562
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 5: it out. But I wouldn't say why they're choosing to see.

563
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: There's messages that you send to your other players either way,

564
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 2: we're not going to tolerate this. You want to f around,

565
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: you're out. That's one message. The other messages there but

566
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: for the grace of God go I.

567
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 5: You know, we're willing to hear it out.

568
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: You know, we can all screw up or whatever this

569
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 2: story is could have happened to any of us. And

570
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: so as a team, we're a family, quote unquote, we're

571
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: gonna stick by him, and you know, see you know,

572
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 2: so that's another message is that we stick together.

573
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 4: But you know, if they're gonna don't know, if they're

574
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: going to go that route, then then I understand their thinking.

575
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 4: But I wouldn't have him out there for training camp,

576
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 4: like I wouldn't play him.

577
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 5: It's a total distraction, right, I would have him away

578
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 5: from that.

579
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 6: And I mean to put it in context of, you

580
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 6: know where this team is right now, I mean, not

581
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 6: to bring up the fact that you lost a couple

582
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 6: of TV practices. I mean, it's just it hasn't been

583
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 6: a great cycle here the last couple of years of

584
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 6: these kind of things, and like at some point you

585
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 6: have to make some bold kind of movies. I also

586
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 6: just wonder what's in his contract. I mean, he's he's signed.

587
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: Well, they all have the standard, you know, conduct detrimental

588
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: to the team, which you know you can cut a

589
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: guy any time for that type of stuff, So you know.

590
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 6: I imagine they have our I mean, I don't think

591
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 6: they should be in a rush to try to make

592
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 6: a decision. I mean, there's no you can't go back

593
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 6: once you make those those kind of calls. They have

594
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 6: to protect themselves. But I would say it would take

595
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 6: a miracle for him to be able to I could

596
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 6: see him getting out of this legally.

597
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: But still never playing for the Patriots.

598
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: All right, So that's that. And then the other story

599
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: that right now is DeAndre Hopkins. He was here, he's left.

600
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: There was a post by Matt Judon, the general manager,

601
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 2: number two on the team, lat familiar with him, and

602
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, that's it, he's gonna sign, you know,

603
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: And obviously nothing has happened. So anybody have any inside

604
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: and like what's going on there?

605
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 6: I think it's the main thing that came out with

606
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 6: with the you know, respected people where that it's going

607
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 6: to take some time and he's in no rush to sign.

608
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 6: I know there were some other reports of him like

609
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 6: they were making a push.

610
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: Did anyone see those reports? I'm like, what the Patriots

611
00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: are making a push?

612
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: That was according to a report from the athletics Jeff

613
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 3: how that that that Derondo Happlins was sticking around and

614
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 3: the Patriots are making a push. I guess nothing ever

615
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 3: actually came to that, but but I think what we said,

616
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 3: and most people said what we said, was that like

617
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: he came in, he's taken inventory. There's no reason for

618
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 3: him to sign right now.

619
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 6: Why why would he unless they were like we absolutely

620
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 6: need you here's a huge, ridiculous offer and then he

621
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 6: but I think he waits and see maybe another opportunity

622
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 6: opens up that that's even better, because if somebody gets

623
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 6: hurt in the first week.

624
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 5: Camp, Yauld, it would seem clear that no one's really

625
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 5: offered him, you know, one of those offers that you're

626
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 5: talking about, like that blows blows everybody away. I think

627
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 5: that the interest has been luke warm in terms of compensation,

628
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 5: and it's probably you know, I don't know, it's probably

629
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 5: rightly so, you know, but I think what kills him

630
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 5: is he's looking at Odell Beckham's contract. He played last

631
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 5: year O'Dell Beckham didn't and Baltimore was wanted to give him,

632
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 5: you know, fifteen guaranteed. So I can understand Hopkins. I

633
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: think Mike is right. I think, why wouldn't you just

634
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 5: wait it out and see if something happens with someone's

635
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 5: wide receiver room or someone gets a little desperate, as

636
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 5: you know, maybe you know, you're sort of watching the

637
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 5: film from mini camp and you you're looking over the

638
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 5: next you know, the coming weeks and you're like, wow,

639
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 5: we really don't have enough in this room. We got

640
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 5: to we got to get him. I don't know, man,

641
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 5: you know, if something like that happens, and then maybe

642
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 5: he's a little bit more track.

643
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: If fifteen million is what it's going to take, I

644
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: figure it out, how I work it so that you know,

645
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: it doesn't count against this year's cap as much. I

646
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: give him the fifteen million and let's go. Let's let's

647
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: let's let's go.

648
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 7: I mean, you have seen people turn their acls like

649
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 7: first week camp, so it's like not that it's not

650
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 7: possible that that could happen.

651
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 6: I don't know anybody who plays poker, why would you

652
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 6: cash in your chest before you need to play? As

653
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 6: long as you can see what's out there, and then

654
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 6: what does he want to sign now? So then he

655
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 6: can go on vacation and not be here for the

656
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 6: next two weeks, Like if anything, I could see it,

657
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 6: you know, maybe in the week leading up. Maybe then

658
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 6: they say, all right, let's let's get this done, so

659
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 6: you can be here right at the start. You can

660
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 6: you know, get in shape.

661
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 7: But well, when you look at it, the Titans and here,

662
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 7: you know who who would be like the best outcome

663
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 7: for him?

664
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 5: Like according to what an argument, Yeah, the Patriots are

665
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 5: a better team, but I think the better opportunity for

666
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 5: him is probably Tennessee because they really have a barren

667
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 5: wide receiver room.

668
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: But according to what he said, was important to him

669
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: the second time around, not the first time, you know,

670
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: was you know, the uh stable leadership, check for both,

671
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: you know, a quarterback who loves the game, check for both,

672
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: you know, and then what was the third defense? And

673
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: really a great defense? He said, And you know, this.

674
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 5: Is what I'm saying. I think there's I can make

675
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 5: an argument for both sides. I think the Patriots are

676
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 5: a better team. I think right now they're probably probably

677
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 5: better on paper than Tennis he is. I think. I

678
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 5: mean that doesn't mean I'm right, but but I think

679
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 5: you can make an argument for all of those things

680
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 5: on Tennessee side. And I thought it was interesting. I

681
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 5: think our buddy Gardy had a tweet about, you know,

682
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 5: the Patriots meeting went very well. That's exactly what they're

683
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 5: saying about his meeting with Tennessee. It felt like it

684
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 5: was a very good meeting, and you know, both of

685
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 5: them were two days. So like, I think it's up

686
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 5: to to me, it's up to him. I think he could.

687
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 5: He's I think he's got what he wants quote unquote

688
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 5: from either one of those. I think he probably would

689
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 5: rather even though we didn't say it, he'd probably rather

690
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 5: go to a contender than Tennessee or in New England.

691
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 4: This reeks to me of him using the Patriots and

692
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 4: Titans as leverage to get a better totally get into sweepstakes.

693
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 4: And if I'm a Patriots fan, I'm not counting on

694
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: him signing here anymore because something tells me that I

695
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: would say, if I had to bet money on, it'd

696
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: probably be Kansas City. But he's just biding time for

697
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: somebody like Kansas City. It's like Buffalo, you know, one

698
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 4: of these other teams to finagle away with the cap

699
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 4: to make enough money in terms of salary cap space.

700
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: You know that the Chiefs are are talking with Chris

701
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 4: Jones about a contract extension. They could you give him

702
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 4: a contract extension with a bunch of money up front

703
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 4: and lower his cap number this year, and then all

704
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 4: of a sudden, here's eight million dollars free of the

705
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 4: cap to give to DeAndre Hopkins. You know something like that.

706
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 4: I just think that this is him saying, these are

707
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 4: like my my plan. B's right, like these are myty

708
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 4: these are my safe, my safe schools. But you know,

709
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 4: if if Harvard comes along and gives me an acceptance letter,

710
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 4: That's where I'm going.

711
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 7: Right Even like with the Bills, you mentioned the Bills,

712
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 7: Evan with Diggs, what is going on there and if

713
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 7: like he doesn't stay there then that they could go

714
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 7: after all out.

715
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: Now the Bills come after him hard.

716
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 7: Yeah for sure. Yeah, I have no idea what's happening.

717
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: Well, it's going to be a bill. I mean, Thig's

718
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: gonna be a Bill. But I think the bigger question

719
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: is is really either a mystery team or I really

720
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 4: think Kansas City is the is the other team in

721
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: Kansas City has some nice pieces besides Kelsey, but they

722
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: don't really have a true number two guy to go to.

723
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 4: And Juju was really their number two guy last year

724
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 4: and they didn't exactly replace him a one for one.

725
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 4: So I look at the Chiefs, and then there are

726
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 4: also some dark horse teams that you never know, like

727
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 4: a team like Jacksonville has some wiggle room. Some of

728
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 4: these other teams that are maybe a little bit more

729
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 4: contender status than you and they come along in the

730
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: last minute and swoop in.

731
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 5: I know they didn't overlap, but Lawrence and Hopkins, I

732
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 5: wonder if they have any relationship from Clemson, right Tigers?

733
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 5: Who knows.

734
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 6: I just need the Patriots need him, they need them,

735
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 6: I really do. I mean it might be fine with

736
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 6: Thornton and you know, to get Juju into the mix,

737
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 6: and maybe it'll look different when those guys are out there.

738
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 5: But yeah, because I was I actually you guys swayed.

739
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: Me on this.

740
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 5: Remember I was a little more lukewarm than both of

741
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 5: you were, and then sort of the spring has sort

742
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 5: of really got me to your side because I just

743
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 5: see how tenuous the room can be health wise. Yeah,

744
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 5: and I think those guys all have injury history. Really

745
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 5: the only one that doesn't have real injury history is Born,

746
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 5: but Parker, Juju, and Taekwon Thornton all have been banged

747
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 5: up and obviously miss time during the spring, so you

748
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 5: see how tenuous it can be. I'm kind of more

749
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 5: on You guys have suaded.

750
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 6: Me just I mean you get down to I mean,

751
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 6: it was it was starring to me last week with

752
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 6: just Parker and Born out there, and you know, even

753
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 6: with Gasiki in the mix, like and Bill O'Brien, I

754
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 6: don't I don't think it's enough to really give you

755
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 6: at least a fighting chance and to feel like, all right,

756
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 6: we have enough to go into this season with some hope,

757
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 6: Like I for that to happen for me right now,

758
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 6: I need to see Juju and Taekwon Thorton get back

759
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 6: out there in training camp and be like wow, all right,

760
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 6: like they're clicking, Like all right, I think we'll be

761
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 6: okay without Hawkins, but I got I got a hard

762
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 6: time seeing that happen and for those guys to stay

763
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 6: out there to your point, Paul the whole time, like

764
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 6: be you know, every day training camp, every day consistent, Thornton,

765
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 6: all three games, Like.

766
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 4: I just think that I agree with you one hundred

767
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 4: percent of that they need Hopkins, But based off of

768
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: the fact that he left without a contract, that tells

769
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 4: me that they don't feel that desperate necessarily, because the

770
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: only way that you were going to get him to

771
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 4: sign and not wait this thing out as he's doing,

772
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 4: is if you gave him a contract that was just

773
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: too good to pass up, and clearly they did it.

774
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: I don't I'm not saying that they didn't offer him

775
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 4: a fair deal, but I don't think that they blew

776
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: him away with a contract offer, otherwise he'd already signed.

777
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 5: So one thing I found really interesting, little little humble brag.

778
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 5: I was doing the TV show Friday night with NBC

779
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 5: Sports bosson. Obviously, seven other people canceled because I got

780
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 5: I got the call on Friday, but I was on

781
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 5: with Phil Perry and Phil mentioned something along the lines

782
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 5: of what Evan's talking about, like, you know, we can

783
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 5: sit back and look and say, they got to do

784
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 5: what they can. They got to get Hopkins, they got

785
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 5: to you know, And he said that it's his understanding

786
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 5: that they don't agree. The Patriots do not agree that

787
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 5: the wide receiver room is in desperate need of DeAndre Hopkins.

788
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 5: Now maybe that's part of negotiating. Maybe you get that

789
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 5: out there with some of the guys that you know,

790
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 5: are you know, big voices on the beat, and you

791
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: let that, you know, hey, DeAndre, we'd love to have you,

792
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 5: but we really don't have to have yet. We don't

793
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 5: need you, we want you, you know. Maybe that's that's

794
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 5: all it is. But I kind of take it at

795
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 5: face value. I think the Patriots themselves don't think the

796
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 5: situation is as dire as we in the media do.

797
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean it's just one man's opinion. But PFF

798
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 4: posted a wide receiver rankings all thirty two teams in

799
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 4: their wide receiver rooms. The Patriots were twenty ninth. Oh wow,

800
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 4: twenty ninth in the league. And they're doing it based

801
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 4: off of what their grades were for guys last year

802
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: and analytically where those guys stacked up last A little low,

803
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 4: but I thought it was a little low too. But

804
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 4: where you're talking about at best league average, Yeah, and

805
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 4: I have worse twenty nine twenty nine.

806
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 5: I mean, so Tennessee's got to be one of those

807
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 5: three behind them, right, Yeah.

808
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: When you look at the division that we're in, that's

809
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: to me why that alone is the case for Hopkins.

810
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: You know, just you know, being middle of the pack

811
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: isn't good enough to get.

812
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 5: And I just feel like it's it's so tenuous because

813
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 5: of that health situation.

814
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 6: Right, all of a sudden, you're gonna be in week

815
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 6: four and you're like, wow, this is the exact same

816
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 6: offense we rolled out last year, and you know, our

817
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 6: expectations are higher.

818
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: For some reason, you lose, you know, a guy needs

819
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 5: a week or two off, and you're like, what you

820
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 5: saw in the spring and guys having trouble separating and

821
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 5: you know, really a side of Mike Kasicki who consistently

822
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 5: got open in the spring. Kasiki did no. But I

823
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 5: don't really think the wide receivers would do.

824
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 6: Parker the same thing we've seen from him, and that's

825
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 6: what he is. It's it's fine, but I mean i'd

826
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 6: play it to Mac too. I mean, I you know,

827
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 6: I don't love like we gotta find what we have

828
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 6: in Mac, but I just want to feel, you know,

829
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 6: I know Paul's dreading that somehow we're gonna make it

830
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 6: through this year and everyone's gonna be like we didn't

831
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 6: do enough for Mac, Like I still need to see

832
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 6: something out of him. Even if they didn't do anything,

833
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 6: it didn't bring.

834
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 5: Hopkins not being completely obvious. Yeah, that's what I like

835
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 5: this time next year. I don't want to be saying

836
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 5: maybe he's.

837
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: The guy, isn't it With Mac?

838
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 4: Though, Like to me, I I've already kind of gotten

839
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 4: to the point where with him, I feel like you

840
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 4: do need to surround him with an arsenal, like you know,

841
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: I think it's similar to you know, how San Francisco

842
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 4: has built their team over the last couple of years

843
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 4: with with their quarterback situation, You're not gonna be like

844
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 4: a competitive playoff team with with without make it work

845
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: George Kittle and Deebo Samuel and Christian McCaffrey and like

846
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 4: those level of players, And they don't have any of

847
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 4: those level of players right now. Maybe Hopkins could be that.

848
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, well let's find out, you know, like everyone says like,

849
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 6: well Mac could be good when he's got talent, So

850
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 6: are we gonna find out, Like, are we just going

851
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 6: to try say that, Oh, well Mac would be great

852
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 6: with talent around him, But let's just try to make

853
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 6: it hard on him and put no talent around.

854
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: Let's just try our best.

855
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 6: He needs time to give him what he needs to

856
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 6: see because maybe he maybe he will bossom.

857
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 7: I mean, that's what he had at Alabama. And I

858
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 7: feel like when he has the great offensive line, he

859
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 7: has the great arsenal like that.

860
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: The pro level at the pro level, Yeah, it will

861
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: it work at a pro level.

862
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 6: And his and his DeAndre Hopkins and Taekwon Thorn and

863
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 6: Juju Smith Schuster enough to you. I know it's not

864
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 6: the NFL equivalent of what he had at Alabama, But

865
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 6: is it enough to at least make them competitive with

866
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 6: some of.

867
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 7: These who's the running back that got released?

868
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: I can't with Alvin, yes.

869
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: Whatever, I mean, I don't know. I like Remandro Stevenson.

870
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 6: I don't feel like he needs help, like really think

871
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 6: that's the help you need, though, you know, I mean,

872
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 6: if if you want to talk to me about a

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Speaker 6: real good receiving back, then maybe.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know. I mean, I don't know enough

875
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Speaker 3: about Dalvin.

876
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Speaker 4: I do think that they need to add another running back,

877
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Speaker 4: like because you're going into the year expecting Kevin Harrison

878
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Speaker 4: Pierre Strong to basically replace the carries at Damien Harris.

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Speaker 5: And it's funny because that was a like one of

880
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Speaker 5: the mini themes of the mail back that I just

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Speaker 5: posted this morning, and and I am. I'm high on

882
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Speaker 5: both of those guys me too, Kevin Harris and Pierre Strong.

883
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Speaker 5: I thought they were pretty active in the spring. But

884
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Speaker 5: it is kind of a dice roll to say time Montgomery,

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Speaker 5: Kevin har.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we're live, Okay, Okay, all right?

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Speaker 4: People maybe like tweet at us or something.

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Speaker 5: There was a lot of construction going on, and I

889
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Speaker 5: don't rule that out that something got knocked off.

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Speaker 2: So everyone heard we were off to that you made amazing.

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Speaker 2: It's good to see. So if you missed it, we

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Speaker 2: did sign Hopkins. I'm only kidding.

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Speaker 5: Just to recap the running back situation, right. I do

894
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Speaker 5: feel like I'm high on those two second year running

895
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Speaker 5: backs and time Montgomery I think has the ability to

896
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Speaker 5: to be a good you know, Swiss army knife and

897
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Speaker 5: fill in at either spot, provide some depth a wide

898
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Speaker 5: receiver or running back. But it is a little ten

899
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Speaker 5: that you know you loose. I'm not even talking about Stevenson.

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Speaker 5: But if you lose a guy, do you have.

901
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Speaker 7: Enough and you can even add him to your list

902
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Speaker 7: earlier about you know, his his history with injuries to

903
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Speaker 7: the list that you had earlier.

904
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Speaker 4: He's on that list too.

905
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Speaker 2: Up, you're hungry, right, Maybe that's it I think too.

906
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Speaker 6: It's always an interesting point in a team, though, where

907
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908
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Speaker 6: and maybe they didn't prove themselves to a point where

909
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910
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Speaker 3: They did a couple of little things. You drafted them.

911
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Speaker 3: You feel like you'd like to turn it over to them,

912
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Speaker 3: but you're just not quite like one hundred to give.

913
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Speaker 5: It I want to go into training camp and say,

914
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Speaker 5: I'm I drafted these two guys. They were in their

915
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Speaker 5: second year. This is what I drafted them for. I

916
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Speaker 5: would like to try to die with them. And then

917
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Speaker 5: if you get into like the preseason and you're like,

918
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Speaker 5: we don't have enough, you can always get a running

919
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Speaker 5: back because running backs get released all the time because

920
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Speaker 5: you know, look, Delvin Cook is an incredible I mean, yeah,

921
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Speaker 5: I'm not in anticipating them.

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923
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1057
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1082
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1084
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Speaker 2: country stuff in the woods. I did have to get

1086
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: a ride home today though, thankfu. That was that was

1087
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: that was Megan this morning. I can't go to the

1088
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 2: park range that comes righting over was take steel? You know,

1089
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: would you like to look at the red well.

1090
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 16: I was a little nervous because I got the ride

1091
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 16: home from this park ranger. But I didn't want him

1092
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 16: to know where I live, because that's he's trying to creepy.

1093
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: It's so good that we have like the hat on

1094
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 3: and the shorts and everything.

1095
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 5: Well he had shorts, yes man, no mustache, right, he had.

1096
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 4: His arboretum car.

1097
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 16: It was labeled and everything. And h I run through

1098
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 16: there often, so I'm going to see him again, and

1099
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 16: now he knows where I live, so I don't really

1100
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 16: I don't really like that. I wanted him to drop

1101
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 16: me off like a little ways away, but I really

1102
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 16: couldn't walk, so it left me.

1103
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: Here's fine, Actually, no, keep on wait yet.

1104
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 16: Then it would be awkward because I'd be limping down

1105
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 16: the sidewalk and.

1106
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: You had to make a campfire. You have to rub,

1107
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 2: always have to take take away.

1108
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: With us.

1109
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 10: You have to do it.

1110
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: That's another great moment from.

1111
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 5: Mb man.

1112
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the great Megan O'Brien now known as Megan Morent.

1113
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: So thanks for holding on with us. We had some

1114
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: technical issues. I think we're all all okay now ready

1115
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 2: to go. You sound great, but it was it was weird,

1116
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: you know, like all of a sudden, like everything just

1117
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: shut off something. Yeah, there is construction going on as

1118
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: you know. So we're talking. We're talking about a little

1119
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: d hob. We're talking some running backs, obviously the Jack

1120
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: Jones story, but something that came up during the break.

1121
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: It's a good off season topic. It's good because you know,

1122
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: Tomorrow was going through the news and that they have

1123
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 2: that submarine that people paid two hundred and fifty thousand

1124
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: dollars to go see the Titanic and it's missing. They

1125
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: can't find it. People are on it.

1126
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 4: Shocker.

1127
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I think all of us agree

1128
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: with I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't pay two hundred

1129
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand. But if we had the money, I

1130
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: think myself, Evan, we'd go to space for Paul would

1131
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: be no space.

1132
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 4: I can't believe.

1133
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 2: Yeah I would. I would go to space.

1134
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 4: Do you call yourself a Star Wars fan then you

1135
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 4: say you don't want to go to space.

1136
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 5: I guess if you if you're posting that, you truly

1137
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 5: have like unlimited resources. And it's kind of hard for

1138
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 5: me to say, like I would pick two hundred and

1139
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 5: fifty thousand dollars just something. I'm really all not all that,

1140
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 5: But if I had that kind of money that it

1141
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 5: just did more.

1142
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: What if why not? What if it was free and

1143
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: somebody said, hey, you want to come on the space trip?

1144
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: Would you do it.

1145
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 5: Right now?

1146
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 7: No?

1147
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: Well we got the show. After the show.

1148
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying now, in my life, you wouldn't miss any

1149
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 3: mini camp at all.

1150
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 5: If you could promise it would be day one of

1151
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 5: training camp until week one of the regular season.

1152
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 4: I did heartbeat.

1153
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 5: See.

1154
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 2: I even said that, like, if someone posed to me,

1155
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 2: will send you on this ship and you're just going

1156
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: to keep going to the far reaches of space and

1157
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 2: you're gonna die up there, or you have five more

1158
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 2: years to live and that's it. I would do the

1159
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 2: space thing.

1160
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 3: Just launch you, yeah, launch you to mercury.

1161
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 4: I'm not sure I would go that far, but I

1162
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 4: would definitely go to space if I had. I said,

1163
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 4: if I was Jeff Bezos and I had a billion

1164
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 4: dollars and it costs me two hundred and fifty k

1165
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 4: to go to space next flight, I'm on it.

1166
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 2: What do you think? Like, I don't know, I'm just like, Yeah.

1167
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 2: It's like if you talk to the astronauts that have

1168
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: done this, that have landed on the Moon, it literally

1169
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 2: it changes their life. It gives them a whole new perspective. Now,

1170
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 2: some of them came back kind of weirdos, you know,

1171
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: but for the most part it it gave them this

1172
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: whole new perspective of how small we how small we are,

1173
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: and how grateful we should be for what we have.

1174
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: And you know, the whole thing.

1175
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 4: I just want to act like I'm in Star Wars.

1176
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 4: I don't really care about your rest.

1177
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: And you sort of go out there.

1178
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 3: You can make lightsaber noises, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.

1179
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 2: Nerd in the backs stop we're trying to.

1180
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 4: I did the Kessel right, That's all I would be

1181
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 4: saying the whole the time I was up there.

1182
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 3: I just I just don't like heights.

1183
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 5: But that would be a drawback. He's actually looking down

1184
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 5: on Earth. What about a space walk?

1185
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 6: Now, see now, if there was a spacewalk involved in it,

1186
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 6: then I might I might get tempted. But just like

1187
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 6: to go up in a ship and kind of like

1188
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 6: sit there and you're flying, You're like, yeah, we're not

1189
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 6: even like really in space.

1190
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: You're just like, well, we passed the line. We're in space,

1191
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: but it doesn't.

1192
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 3: Look like space yet because you're not like the one.

1193
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: What was the movie with Brad Pitt Vox No Fight Club? Now,

1194
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 2: now I can't remember where he goes to find his

1195
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: father who's been lost, like in the Rings of Saturn.

1196
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: I don't mean that movie. Oh it's really good. I

1197
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: loved it. Interstellar No came out after Interstellar.

1198
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 6: Somebody's gonna newer movie though, Yeah, newer movie was like

1199
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 6: I was thinking, like The Martian was a pretty good one.

1200
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: That ad Astra ad Astra. Okay, I didn't see excellent movie.

1201
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: I will that's that's what I want I want to

1202
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: go out there, you know. I don't want to just

1203
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: orbit Earth. I want to get out there, you know,

1204
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 2: with you. Yeah, well they throw you out.

1205
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 3: Let you do spacewalk.

1206
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: You don't want to tether missing out.

1207
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 4: I see spacewalk on tether scared because that is really

1208
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 4: easy to just float and then you're just that too.

1209
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm up for that.

1210
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 3: That Sandra Bullet movie was pretty good too, with her

1211
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: like that.

1212
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 2: I thought that was a great movie. Was a good one.

1213
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 3: And three D, yeah, I saw that three D in

1214
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 3: the theater was good.

1215
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Michael eight five five Pats five hundred

1216
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: is the a stick and hotline eight five five Pats

1217
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 2: five hundred web radio at patriots dot com is the

1218
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: email address. Got a lot of emails coming in, a

1219
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: lot of emails, so let's, uh, let's get to them. Obviously,

1220
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: Jack Jones is on a lot of people's minds. Franklin

1221
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: and Baltimore writes in I'd buy Jack Jones negligence defense

1222
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: if the guns weren't loaded. The fact that they were

1223
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: and had high capacity magazines equipped to boot suggest to

1224
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: me he meant to take them with him to wherever

1225
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: he was going, because he thought he would need them,

1226
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: which is a scary thought in and of itself, because

1227
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: then you have to think, well, where the hell was

1228
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: he going where he thought he needed them fully loaded

1229
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 2: in a bag? Yeah, I mean, this is all speculation,

1230
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: you know, but it's it's fair for people to wonder.

1231
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 6: I mean, it's fair for people to wonder if he

1232
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 6: was going to hijack the plane. I mean, that's you know,

1233
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 6: I mean, that's why else I can't wrap my head

1234
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 6: around it.

1235
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1236
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 4: Apparently it was in a Duffel bag that he was

1237
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 4: carrying and then put down on the security belt, and

1238
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 4: they and went with.

1239
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 3: His shoes and his laptop and his belt right right, like,

1240
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 3: so that's why it just I don't know.

1241
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 4: I mean he powered down laptop in a Duffel bag too,

1242
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 4: Like now you're carrying it over your shoulder in a

1243
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 4: double bag. You don't hear clanking or like a you know,

1244
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 4: something heavy in there, even you know, I was the

1245
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 4: one that came out at first and was like I

1246
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 4: want to hear him out even I'm starting to what's

1247
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 4: this thing?

1248
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: I mean, tell me I want to hear I gotta care.

1249
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 3: What do you got, Like, give me the story.

1250
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: I just I gotta hear it got James McLeod our,

1251
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 2: resident artist Cartoonists, says Fred. So, do we now have

1252
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: a football intelligence scale of Josh Allen to two loaded guns.

1253
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 5: And to carry on? Absolutely?

1254
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 2: That's good, David Bethlehem. So we brought his range bag

1255
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 2: to the airport by accident with his undies and toiletries

1256
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: which he always brought to the range. Paul has it right,

1257
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: caught him. Can't let this guy walk into the building

1258
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: because you never know what he has in his bag, waistband,

1259
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: et cetera. Who would feel safe?

1260
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for putting that in my head.

1261
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, sick.

1262
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: Robin in Alaska. Jack Jones, after actually having these guns

1263
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: in his baggage, pled not guilty. So he's going with

1264
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: the shaggy defense, wasn't.

1265
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 5: Me, Well, you kind of have to plead, of course, Yeah,

1266
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 5: you plead.

1267
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: Guilty to the charges. That doesn't mean that you didn't

1268
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: do anything wrong. But what they're accusing me of I

1269
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 2: didn't do, you know, But yeah, I don't know Ryan

1270
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: and Dublin. Paul said on Thursday show with that he

1271
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 2: hopes Jack Jones pops off this coming year. I'm pretty

1272
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: sure if this wasn't the pop he was thinking of.

1273
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 5: Poor choice of words.

1274
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see Alan in Texas count me as the

1275
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: one that can't find any reason that Jack Jones did

1276
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: not know there were guns in his carry on. I

1277
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: agree with you, Fred that the weight alone would be

1278
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: enough for you to realize something was added to your

1279
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: carry on. They also agree with Evan that this is

1280
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 2: too stupid. In this day and age, you cannot possibly

1281
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 2: think that you can get away with bringing any weapon

1282
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: on a flight. There were times that I brought my

1283
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 2: cigar cutter and wondered if TSA was going to take it.

1284
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: Jack Jones is not worth keeping at this point. But

1285
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 2: that's that's kind of whatever. It's so stupid, right like that,

1286
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 2: you almost could believe the door open. But to me,

1287
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: even if you're like, well, I'm from another state and

1288
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: there's no place where you can bring a gunloaded guns

1289
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: on a plane nowhere, that's that's national.

1290
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 5: Law, right. Like Quentin Williams, you know, for the Jets,

1291
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 5: had a situation where he did it, like he went

1292
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 5: in tried to check it in and told them so listen,

1293
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 5: I have my guns. They registered that, and he's still

1294
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 5: got in trouble, right, like even being completely upfront.

1295
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: He was trying to do the right thing his mind.

1296
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 5: Because he thought he could do it right. So I

1297
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 5: just have to check him in you know.

1298
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, he actually that case, he they threw out the

1299
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 4: charges essentially because it was just a misunderstanding of how

1300
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 4: he was supposed to transport. You have to check them,

1301
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 4: you have to tell them, you have to check them,

1302
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 4: and you have to go through a whole process. But

1303
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 4: it is allowed to check hey, unloaded, perfectly put together gun.

1304
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 4: But in the Quentin Williams's case, he just kind of

1305
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 4: read the rules wrong or something like that, and it

1306
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 4: was more of like a technicality.

1307
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 3: But at least there was effort, because if there's anywhere

1308
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 3: in the whole country that you can't bring a gun,

1309
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 3: that everyone should know.

1310
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 6: It's into an airport, and is there anywhere else that's

1311
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 6: above that in terms of.

1312
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 3: Common sense of places not to bring your gun.

1313
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: Somebody's calling him now, hijack Jones.

1314
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 5: That's not Mike is very upset.

1315
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 6: It's just I think it's the it's just how monumentally

1316
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 6: stupid it is around it. And I and I and

1317
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 6: I said Aaron Hernandez, because I that's a tragedy to me,

1318
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 6: the Aaron Hernandez and the whole thing, and just for

1319
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 6: me always the thought was, Aaron Hernandez had a touchdown

1320
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl and he was at the very

1321
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 6: best going to be sitting in jail the rest of

1322
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 6: his life. And this is a kid who just finished

1323
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 6: up a great mini camp and had a chance to

1324
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 6: get his life really on track and to make a

1325
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 6: bunch more money and have success in this league. And

1326
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 6: one monumentally stupid, potentially decision might just flush that all

1327
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 6: down the toilet for him and that and that's as

1328
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 6: stupid as it is.

1329
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 3: It's it's sad, It's all sad.

1330
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: Uh, Travis says. Question I have on Jack Jones' situation

1331
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 2: is how did the guns get to Massachusetts in the

1332
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 2: first place? Maybe he made it through TSA with the

1333
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: guns when he arrived for me camp. I'm not buying

1334
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 2: that either. What airport did you get through?

1335
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 5: Like, no, my guess as he drove, but I don't know.

1336
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 5: Maybe he bottom, I don't Did he buy him here?

1337
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 5: I don't know, kind of It's a lot of differentibilities.

1338
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 2: Again open ears, but I can't imagine what the thing

1339
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: would be to convince me you know, but we'll see,

1340
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 2: we'll see. I really do want to hear what because

1341
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 2: we need that boundary corner.

1342
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 4: My gosh, it's important.

1343
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 3: Nobody can throw it out on that guy.

1344
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 2: Disrespectful, disrespectful, all right, some other subjects, Rick and Dallas.

1345
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: I read a report recently that said Dalvin Cook and

1346
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 2: de Hopkins want to play together. Could that potentially hinder

1347
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: a Hopkins signing or would the Patriots ever consider signing both? Also,

1348
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: was Jack Jones done with the Patriots when we talked

1349
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 2: about that?

1350
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 6: So that report, though, I just feel like that was

1351
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 6: something like him being like, oh, it'd be so cool

1352
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 6: if we could play together.

1353
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 3: It wasn't like him being like we're a package.

1354
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: That report.

1355
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 4: Dalvin Cook had that report. Dalvin Cook did an interview

1356
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 4: where he said that it would be like epic, I

1357
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 4: think was the exact word, to play with DeAndre Hopkins.

1358
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 2: But because you think it's.

1359
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 3: Epic doesn't mean anyone wants to it's gonna.

1360
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 4: Make It's not a situation where they are like you were,

1361
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 4: like Mike was saying, package deal.

1362
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 5: They've sat and talked and they said let's try to.

1363
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 4: Pack especially this time of years. Can nobody can even afford.

1364
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 2: To do that. So Alex and Raleigh, I think Hopkins

1365
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 2: will be a Patriot based off the quote from Kraft

1366
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: what he said in March on how money spending will

1367
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: never be an issue and that Bill has always gotten

1368
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: what he wanted. In addition to some rumors of the

1369
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 2: visit being positive for both sides, this move just makes

1370
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 2: sense for the team.

1371
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 4: It makes sense for the Patriots.

1372
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 5: But what if Bill doesn't want him at that price?

1373
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 5: Like Bill always gets what he wants, But what if

1374
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 5: Bill doesn't want fifteen million dollars DeAndre Hopkins.

1375
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: See and you would say, well, if it's not Bill's money,

1376
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: what did he should why should he care? But what

1377
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: about this whole thing with jj smith Suster Juju right

1378
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: him too? About you know, like he might get bent

1379
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 2: out of shape if you bring in Hopkins and make

1380
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 2: who and.

1381
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 5: Who had that report?

1382
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 4: I don't know Adam Schefter, Oh yeah, okay, doesn't just

1383
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 4: make it up. Okay, he said that Juju would get happy.

1384
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 5: He sort of talked about the salary structure within the

1385
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 5: Patriots receiver room right now. Juju smith Schuster is at

1386
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 5: the top of that list, So you'd have to be

1387
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 5: conscious of that when you're and I'm like, are you

1388
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 5: kidding me? Like, you can't give a receiver more than

1389
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 5: Juju Smith Uster, who's DeAndre Hopkins, who's twice the player is.

1390
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 4: Also getting Juju is getting like eleven or twelve million.

1391
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 4: He's getting discounted money essentially for that position.

1392
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 5: I think it's it's less than that, like aav and

1393
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 5: I think that's probably what they go by. But yeah,

1394
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 5: to you a point, it's not like he blew the

1395
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 5: you know, the top off the wide receiver market. But

1396
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 5: I just and Fred will tell you that that has

1397
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 5: been the thing in the past. The salary structure within

1398
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 5: the locker room was always made easy because of Brady,

1399
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 5: but even like position wise, there'd be a hierarchy. Now,

1400
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 5: I don't I don't really see how a new guy

1401
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 5: who came in Juju Smith Schuster should set that mark.

1402
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 5: Like I think we'd all agree that DeAndre Hopkins is

1403
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 5: a better player.

1404
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 4: I also just think it's it benefits Juju to have

1405
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 4: somebody on the outside like DeAndre Hopkins because he's not

1406
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 4: going to get all the attention from the defense and

1407
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 4: they're not going to pack the middle of the field

1408
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 4: and like all the areas that he wants to operate

1409
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 4: on become easier to operate in if they have somebody

1410
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 4: on the outside like DeAndre Hopkins. So I just I

1411
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 4: don't know that those types of reports worry me because

1412
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 4: that's like a big picture you on the roster, and

1413
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 4: if that's the way that they're thinking, then that's troublesome.

1414
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 6: I want to see Juju play and perform out there,

1415
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 6: Like I There's been a lot with him, and yeah,

1416
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 6: I want to see him.

1417
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 3: Get him out there, do something.

1418
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 2: George and Maryland writes in Miles Bryant needs to step

1419
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: up and tell us the truth about the fact that

1420
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 2: it's his bag and the guns. I think that'll work works.

1421
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 3: For me, Oh stop it.

1422
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 6: But I do think it's worth, you know, just throwing

1423
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 6: out there. Kwandary Mosley, Sean Wade, Rodney Randall, Amere Speed,

1424
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 6: Isaiah Boulden that the you know, the two rookies, so

1425
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 6: you know five outside ish corners. I mean some of

1426
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 6: them are played and can't play, but you know, there's

1427
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 6: an opportunity I think for one of those five guys.

1428
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 6: If one of those five guys could maybe have a

1429
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 6: good camp and play and things kind of continue with Jack.

1430
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 3: This way that maybe it's an opportunity for one of

1431
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 3: those young guys.

1432
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 5: Well, and the other part too is I think we

1433
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 5: all sort of penciled in Jalen Mills as a safety,

1434
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 5: like we're going to just move him back there, you know,

1435
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 5: no questions asked that all of a sudden, they go

1436
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 5: out there all spring and they got safeties all over

1437
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 5: the place, you know, Pepper's Dog or mob who sometimes

1438
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 5: you know, Phillips's. Maybe they don't need Jalen Mills to

1439
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 5: just play safety. Yeah, you know, like it's not ideal.

1440
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 5: I think the ideal and I think this is what

1441
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 5: I said on Thursday, not any breaking news or anything,

1442
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 5: but having Christian Gonzales and Jack Jones is your two

1443
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 5: outside corners with Jonathan Jones in the slot, I think

1444
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 5: we all three felt represented the best scenario. Well, yeah,

1445
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 5: and now it's probably not gonna happen.

1446
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 4: Now you probably have Christian Gonzalez on the boundary, Jonathan

1447
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 4: Jones back to that like outside inside role, and then

1448
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 4: Marcus Jones is your full time slot, so you still

1449
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 4: have the two other Joneses. I think what you worry

1450
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 4: about is in theory, Christian Gonzalez was an upgrade over

1451
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 4: Jalen Mills, and then whichever Jones man the slot was

1452
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 4: going to be an upgrade over Miles Bryant, and now

1453
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 4: you lost a layer of that death. So that makes

1454
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 4: you now, all of a sudden, Myles Bryan is right

1455
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 4: back as a full time player in your secondary or

1456
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 4: close to it. And I just felt like they were

1457
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 4: upgrading two spots by the domino effect of Christian Gonzales,

1458
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden, it doesn't look quite

1459
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 4: as as great as it did a couple of weeks ago,

1460
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 4: which is a bummer.

1461
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 7: Is there perhaps anyone available right now or no?

1462
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 5: I think Marcus Peterson is probably the best name on

1463
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 5: that list, but he's another guy with some of these

1464
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 5: I don't know exactly what the transgressions were, but he's

1465
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 5: a guy who's had problems in the past and it's

1466
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 5: been a pretty good player. I don't think he's the

1467
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 5: type that would sign for the minimum even at this stage.

1468
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 5: He's one of those guys he's got a track record.

1469
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 5: I don't know, Like Dalvin Cook, people are saying still

1470
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 5: was not planning on signing anywhere for less than five million.

1471
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 5: You know, we'll see what happens when Yeah, you get

1472
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 5: to the middle of July and no one signed him.

1473
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 5: You know, maybe he changes his tune.

1474
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 4: I don't think that they necessarily need a starting corner,

1475
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 4: like I think that between Gonzales and the two jones

1476
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 4: is that are currently not in hot water. I think

1477
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 4: that they have three solid starting corners. I just think

1478
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 4: that you'd lose the flexibility that we were talking about

1479
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 4: all spring of Oh they can move, you know, they

1480
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 4: can spin the dial, and they can move these guys

1481
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 4: and these and they have that guy and this guy,

1482
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 4: and you know, I think you lose some of that,

1483
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 4: some of that depth and flexibility isn't quite as good

1484
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 4: as it looked on paper last week. But in terms

1485
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,919
Speaker 4: of the starters, I think those are three solid starting corners.

1486
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 4: I just I worry about you and you mentioned some

1487
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 4: of the rookies, like you know, I think at Isaiah

1488
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 4: Bolden or mere Speed now has a really good chance

1489
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 4: to make the roster as the fifth corner, especially with

1490
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 4: how much special teams they're projected to be involved in.

1491
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 4: So you're you're looking at that and probably Miles Bryant

1492
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 4: as being on the team now is like kind of

1493
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 4: the fourth and fifth corner of.

1494
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 3: The utility kind of guy.

1495
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 6: And that's like, I don't have high hopes that any

1496
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 6: of those five corners I listed are going to have it,

1497
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 6: but I like at least trying to give you got

1498
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 6: five guys.

1499
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 5: But I mean, obviously, the key, the key to all

1500
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 5: of this is Gonzales is what we all think he is,

1501
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 5: and he's he's going to be your starting corner from

1502
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 5: day one, and that slot like Fred's think slots everybody else.

1503
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 5: But if you have Gonzales and you feel good about him,

1504
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 5: Jonathan Jones, Marcus Jones, and Jalen Mills, I think that's

1505
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 5: I mean, that's four corners that I think you're probably

1506
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 5: okay with. Now. I worry a little bit about Marcus Jones.

1507
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 5: I've talked about his size. I think it's really hard

1508
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 5: to play that being that small. He's exceptionally small for

1509
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 5: a corner. Now, dynamic is all hell Athletically, you know,

1510
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 5: can do a lot of different things, and then you

1511
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 5: get into all the safeties. You're talking ten or eleven

1512
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 5: maybe defensive backs making the final cut. I mean there's

1513
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 5: a lot of options there with you know, with that

1514
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 5: group of four and then Miles Brian is your fifth

1515
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 5: and He's another guy that can play, you know, front

1516
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 5: and back, and then you have all the safeties that

1517
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 5: we've already talked about. Where they're gonna put map WHU

1518
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 5: where exactly does he? I think they have plenty of

1519
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 5: options before you get to that group. Yeah, yeah, I think,

1520
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 5: like Speed Bolden, one of those two is probably going

1521
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 5: to be a better option special teams wise, but you know,

1522
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 5: who knows, maybe they both make it.

1523
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 7: I do like, how do you don't called the defense

1524
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,560
Speaker 7: like a bunch of unicorns like they really are in

1525
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 7: the sense of just like you have so many versatile

1526
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 7: pieces and then kind of with our injury prone room,

1527
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 7: like the wide receivers that room down the stretch did

1528
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 7: did tend to have a lot of issues between Jalen

1529
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 7: Mills really didn't see him for a while for a

1530
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 7: stretch good stretch there. It'll be interesting to see if

1531
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 7: those guys that you listed, Mike, do you get a chance,

1532
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 7: especially down the stretch, you know, if a god needs

1533
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,560
Speaker 7: rest week or two opportunity.

1534
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 2: Richard New York City says big fan of the show.

1535
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 2: He wants to know what we think about the rumor

1536
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 2: of Aaron Rodgers nixing a trade to the Patriots. Did

1537
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 2: you hear about this?

1538
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 6: I did hear about it, and I was hesitant to

1539
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 6: bring it up because I don't know if it really

1540
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 6: came from a reliable source person.

1541
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 2: It was a ict and felon that had this story.

1542
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 5: Wow, Craig Carter, Oh, that guy, that's one of those things.

1543
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 5: That's a fact. He's a convicted felon. Yes it is true,

1544
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 5: but but but also a long time talk shows Yeah,

1545
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 5: reliable source. I just I don't want to.

1546
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1547
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 4: I don't know all the ins and outs. I don't

1548
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 4: know if I buy it or not.

1549
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 6: I mean, I said at the time, I always thought

1550
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 6: that there might be a flirtation there, just because I

1551
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 6: think Bill is always a little bit interested in, you know,

1552
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 6: generational players like that.

1553
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 3: I don't I think he's always at least willing to

1554
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 3: kick the tires on it.

1555
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 5: I just feel like it was probably a little bit

1556
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 5: more to it than he absolutely refused to to the Patriots.

1557
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 5: It was probably more financial, like maybe they reached out

1558
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 5: and talked about some basic parameters and one of the

1559
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 5: stipulations that Belichick had was the first thing we gotta

1560
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 5: do is you gotta we got to redo your contract.

1561
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,799
Speaker 5: We can't give you sixty million. Yeah, right, totally.

1562
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 4: Nope, it was that he absolutely refused to play for

1563
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 4: the Patriots. Haha.

1564
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 3: I want to go to the Jets and beat the Patriots.

1565
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 5: My guess is there's probably a grain of truth to

1566
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 5: what Carton said, but that is nearly the whole story.

1567
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 5: That's my guest. I don't know. I don't have any information.

1568
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 2: And why would he, of all people, have that story.

1569
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 5: Well, he's pretty entrenched in New York right right.

1570
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 4: I don't know what from what motivation would they have

1571
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 4: to make the Patriots.

1572
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: Look bad, Adam says, and he's in Ireland.

1573
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 5: Uh.

1574
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: First the Craft email to season ticket holders, he stated

1575
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 2: he was unhappy, as we all were, with last year's

1576
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: outcome and that there would be big changes coming this year.

1577
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 2: I know it's early on, but do you all think

1578
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: the changes were just adding Bill O'Brien? Is just adding

1579
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien enough of a change for the offense and organization? Personally,

1580
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 2: I feel we are miles away from the rest of

1581
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 2: the league, especially on the offensive side of things. Every

1582
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 2: other team with a young rookie quarterback has had added

1583
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 2: major talent around them, especially from Alabama. So pretty much.

1584
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 5: I do not think they're miles away.

1585
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if I don't know what he exactly the

1586
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,560
Speaker 2: letter said, did he say there we're going to be

1587
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 2: big changes.

1588
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he's hiring a Bill O'Brien type

1589
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator is a pretty substantial move. I mean, it's

1590
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 4: maybe not the move that the only mover, the move

1591
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 4: that everybody wanted or whatever, But when you hired an

1592
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 4: entire new coordinator and a new offensive line coach and

1593
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 4: really overhauled the outside of the ball from a coaching standpoint,

1594
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,599
Speaker 4: it's that's pretty substantial change.

1595
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I know, Hopkins has been the highlight of talk

1596
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 2: for US Patriots fans the past few months, but Hopkins

1597
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 2: can't be the only answer, right if he signs elsewhere,

1598
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 2: we need to pursue another trusted veteran at the position.

1599
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 2: We haven't done enough in my eyes. I'm not asking

1600
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 2: for an elite wide receiver such as Justin Jefferson, but

1601
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 2: we have to have threats, all right, put a name

1602
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 2: to the claim. Who is it?

1603
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 5: Right, Like, if it's not Hopkins, then who is that

1604
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 5: kind of receiver that's clearly establishing himself as the top

1605
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 5: at the top of the list, you're adding another Parker

1606
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 5: Born at best, Smith Schuster at best at this point,

1607
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 5: right right.

1608
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: Then you might as well stick with what you got.

1609
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 3: That's why you're hoping Thornton is something interesting.

1610
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, uh eight five five pasts five hundred

1611
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: is the a sticket headline. Let's go to Willem and Fellm.

1612
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 2: What's up? William?

1613
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 17: Hey Fred? How you doing?

1614
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 5: All right?

1615
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 17: All right, let me just get right to it. I'm

1616
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 17: gonna say like this the Patriots, there's like an open

1617
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 17: book basically, you.

1618
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 7: Know what I mean.

1619
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 18: It is.

1620
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 17: You got Trent Brown overweight, your your receivers are banged up. Basically,

1621
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 17: you got you got questions at what tackle? Basically you

1622
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 17: need another running back, okay, and not to mention, you

1623
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 17: got one of your corns want to be Jim with.

1624
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 18: So I'm like, what are you?

1625
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 17: What are we doing? You know what I mean? You

1626
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 17: know what I mean? And then like I blame Bill

1627
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 17: a little bit for that because I'm like this, you

1628
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,719
Speaker 17: drafted you that he has some off the field issues.

1629
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 17: So you know, but like Evans said, though, we're gonna

1630
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 17: sit back. You know, I'm not going uch the main

1631
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 17: thing I did at this point though, But it just

1632
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,440
Speaker 17: don't look good for you period.

1633
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, it wasn't the good last week.

1634
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 17: Anybody to spread stupid dumb I don't know. That's just

1635
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 17: really dumb and it's not funny anything.

1636
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 18: It's just really dumb.

1637
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 17: You throwing your whole length away, you know.

1638
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 7: What I mean?

1639
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, William, I'm going to separate the Jack Jones part

1640
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 5: because I think we talked about that. But just on

1641
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 5: the field, like the last week wasn't great. I mean,

1642
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 5: Trent Brown finally shows up, he doesn't look like he's

1643
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 5: anywhere near ready to participate in practice. So you don't

1644
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 5: know exactly what the future is at left tackle, you know,

1645
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 5: the near you know, the current future. I don't mean

1646
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 5: like four years down the road. I mean in you know,

1647
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 5: week one against Philadelphia, the wide receivers were banged up,

1648
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 5: So what you had out there, you know, wasn't It

1649
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 5: wasn't nearly enough, except you know, I I suppose you

1650
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 5: could look at it on the positive side and listen

1651
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 5: to like Jabrill Peppers and Matthew Judon and the way

1652
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 5: they gushed about the defense and how they felt like

1653
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 5: they should be ahead of the offense because of their

1654
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 5: lack of turnover. They only lost one guy, which, according

1655
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 5: to Mike Reese is the best in football, the only

1656
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 5: only only team to only lose one defensive starter from

1657
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 5: last year. So you should be ahead of the game defensively,

1658
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 5: and they were, so you could look at it from

1659
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 5: a positive side that way. But yeah, I mean what

1660
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 5: William's talking about. They have they have some issues that

1661
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 5: we kind of wondered about heading into the spring camps

1662
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 5: and didn't get anything to alleviate those fears.

1663
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 4: It's just a little the whole, the whole direction of

1664
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 4: the team is starting to get a little bit bumpy. Though,

1665
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 4: like to I don't think it's necessarily the organization's fault

1666
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 4: that Jack Jones brought two guns to the Logan Airport.

1667
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that. But you talk about, you know,

1668
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 4: losing the OTAs you talk about even the situation, but

1669
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 4: with between Mac and Bill or whatever's going on there,

1670
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 4: that just doesn't really from the eye test, just doesn't

1671
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 4: seem one hundred per right that between those two guys,

1672
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 4: Trent Brown's situation, and you do wonder about sort of

1673
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 4: the the culture and like the overall direction of the

1674
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 4: locker room and of the team in general. That does

1675
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 4: doesn't really seem like guys are necessarily pulling the rope

1676
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,760
Speaker 4: in the same direction. I'm not saying that they're not

1677
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 4: pulling the rope, it's just like not pulling it all

1678
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 4: in the same direction together in some respects. And it

1679
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 4: does have it's just some concerns.

1680
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 17: It just seems like, I'm sorry, I just wanted to

1681
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 17: get one more thing in because I know as some

1682
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 17: point break on that there let me go.

1683
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 18: So I just might say real fast that.

1684
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 17: You know, all your problems are all majority basically all

1685
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 17: your problems are offense other than the corner situation, you

1686
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 17: know what I mean. But you saying look at a

1687
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 17: positive point, well, but look at the negative. It is

1688
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 17: bad on offense, Like Bill just you didn't do a

1689
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 17: good job on office.

1690
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 18: You just didn't.

1691
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 17: I don't care how y'all summed that up. He did not.

1692
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 17: It is the worst offseason, and then stuff that happened

1693
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 17: from last season is carrying on into this season, like,

1694
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 17: you know, it's a mess again. Why can't we just

1695
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 17: move forward without any problems? Why is the always been

1696
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 17: the news the past couple of days now and now

1697
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 17: this too with Jack Jonesy's like what's next. You know

1698
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 17: what I'm saying. You need some good you need some

1699
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 17: good news, you know, bad news with the team.

1700
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 5: No, I agree, it was bad. It was it bad

1701
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 5: last week in the spring. There's no other way to

1702
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 5: put it.

1703
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, all right, thanks William uh Anthony and Delaware

1704
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 2: rights in. He says, uh, well, we were talking about

1705
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 2: clutch players last year. David Ortiz. He says, my favorite

1706
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 2: thing about David Ortiz hitting that Grand Slam was that

1707
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 2: he hit ninety one for the series. He had two hits.

1708
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 2: Then he went absolutely bonkers on the Cardinals, hitting six

1709
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,440
Speaker 2: eighty eight in almost a two thousand ops.

1710
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 4: That's not how I remember it.

1711
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 2: He says, Jack Jones better call Sault, Well, he got better.

1712
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: I think he got better than Saul. He got this

1713
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 2: lady Rose Rose, she's ready to.

1714
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,719
Speaker 3: Get in there. Okay, what do we got we gotta

1715
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,640
Speaker 3: find is we gotta find the fall guy for him?

1716
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 7: Though, do we ever do we get any more information

1717
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 7: on what is happening with Lawrence guy? I know we

1718
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,640
Speaker 7: were talking about Trent Brown, but Lawrence guys.

1719
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 3: That's another one question mark question, that's another one.

1720
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what what do you do on that?

1721
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 6: One, Like it's an interesting thing where so the employee's

1722
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 6: not showing off for work now he's unhappy with his

1723
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 6: with his you know contract, what do you like?

1724
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 2: Do you all right?

1725
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 6: Well, can you come to trany camp. We're gonna start

1726
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 6: finding them or do they say do they try to.

1727
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:25,560
Speaker 3: Make amends with it?

1728
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just an interesting player where I can understand, like,

1729
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 6: you know what Seymour would Richard Seymour hang out, would

1730
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 6: hold out, you know, mid mid two thousands, because he's

1731
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 6: one of the best defensive linemen in the game.

1732
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 3: They're like, guy, it's a weird time, Like you're holding

1733
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 3: out now.

1734
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 6: You signed like a four year low money deal two

1735
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 6: seasons ago and you didn't think that other guys were

1736
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 6: gonna come in and get paid more than you during

1737
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 6: that time.

1738
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 3: So that's another thing to watch.

1739
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 6: And I think their depth along the defensive line is

1740
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 6: pretty is pretty tenuous, you know, be kind Godshaw bar

1741
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 6: Moore Wise, it's you know.

1742
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 3: A quality farms Sam Roberts.

1743
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 2: I mean just this to I, like, it's not there's

1744
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 2: not a lot there, uh, Cody and Indiana just want

1745
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: to say that Juju may be my new all time

1746
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 2: favorite signing. Solely because we get to hear all the

1747
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 2: various ways Fred will butcher his name. Uh, he will

1748
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 2: hear it said a thousand times, and he will still

1749
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 2: get it wrong, both intentionally and unintentionally. Juju Schuster Smith,

1750
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:25,839
Speaker 2: Juju Shuster Shuster, Juju Smith. The possibilities are endless.

1751
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 4: You call him, I mean, JJ is fine what it

1752
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 4: is to people call I've never heard that. I've heard

1753
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 4: it before.

1754
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 3: He's he's one of those annoying football writer names that

1755
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 3: you're like, here we go, s M I T.

1756
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 5: H you well, even the Juju is kind of annoying.

1757
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 3: The capital Yeah, you probably got some al timer's.

1758
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 5: Paul is an old time writer.

1759
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 2: Remember that one was well, even.

1760
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 5: Even that was bad.

1761
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 2: But like T. J.

1762
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 5: Huschman Zada was always Yeah, that was.

1763
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 2: A tough but Garoppolo, which letter is double?

1764
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 6: I have a device for that. I always he has

1765
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 6: two P two peak. Yeah, that's how I always remember it.

1766
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 6: He has to peek goes on.

1767
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 2: There's two.

1768
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 7: I do like, did you see that report for like,

1769
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 7: if he doesn't pass his physical he will be able

1770
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 7: to play, would you see that? Jimmy g Yeah, could

1771
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:22,839
Speaker 7: you imagine?

1772
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 3: I think he'll be fine and then I'll get injured again.

1773
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm not saying he's gonna say healthy

1774
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 5: the whole year, but no, yeah I would, matter of fact,

1775
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 5: I mean probably no chance.

1776
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 2: Like I don't.

1777
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 3: I try not to kill guys on injuries like I

1778
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 3: think injury, I don't. Yeah, it's inevitable.

1779
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 5: He's one of those guys.

1780
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 3: Yes, he gets hurt a lot now, but next time

1781
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 3: you're trying to try Garoppolo.

1782
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 2: But I really do think he spells his name incorrectly

1783
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 2: because Polo is Italian for chicken, right, and it's.

1784
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 4: Why does it have to be chicken? But why does

1785
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 4: it have to be that He's it's supposed to be cho.

1786
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 3: Marco Polo, Polo, it's chicken.

1787
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 5: That's too in Italian. I know what it means. I

1788
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 5: just don't understand why his name has to Italian like galloping,

1789
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 5: galloping chicken. I don't think it's polo. It's not polo.

1790
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 4: That's the game with the horse, right or in water

1791
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 4: water when they make those pool wearing polo, yeah, right.

1792
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 3: Very big in California, the water Polo.

1793
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 6: A lot of adonicis I heard nikola people with giants shoulders.

1794
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:47,480
Speaker 4: And you know, speedos and well, it requires giant shoulders.

1795
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:47,839
Speaker 5: A lot of swimming.

1796
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:49,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's my understanding.

1797
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 2: Very hard. It's a grueling sport. It really is. Looks.

1798
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 2: I mean, you're treading water for all that time, and

1799
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff going on under the water

1800
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: on that ye pull down? Hey what a not punching

1801
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 2: Alex and Englewood, New Jersey. The technical issues today are

1802
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 2: fairly representative of the trials and circulations the team is facing.

1803
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 2: Sounds like the Patriots are crumbling down. In other news,

1804
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 2: it's been great shows so far and had some very

1805
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 2: good insight in the beginning. Keep up the great work

1806
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 2: and keeping us informed.

1807
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 4: Just in the beginning. Since then, it's been off thehere else.

1808
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 2: Uh somebody making fun of Andy? Should we read that?

1809
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 5: Absolutely not really.

1810
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 2: But it's been a while. But I had to write

1811
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 2: in this is Jim. I had a podcast pop up

1812
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:44,759
Speaker 2: as a suggestion in my feed, the Six Rings podcast.

1813
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 2: I saw Andy's name, and I was hoping for a

1814
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 2: good show. Boy was I wrong? It was painful. Andy

1815
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 2: should be shredding that guy. But I didn't hear anything

1816
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 2: like that. I couldn't make it through an episode.

1817
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 5: I know who it was.

1818
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 2: My suggestion changed the nih to big head on the board,

1819
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 2: else is misleading. I'm out as Jim and Pittsburgh.

1820
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 3: Is any is any gonna let him have it a

1821
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: little better?

1822
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:08,479
Speaker 5: I'll talk off here.

1823
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 4: I think I know who the who the bore is? Situation?

1824
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 2: Uh fright? Since you continue to call Juju Smith Schuster

1825
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 2: j J. Schuster and this show is famous for making

1826
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 2: names more fun, Jimmy White, Nate Hackett, et cetera. I

1827
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 2: thought you should know that he was born named John Smith?

1828
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 2: Can we call him that from now on? Is that true?

1829
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 4: Like poconnas?

1830
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1831
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 2: Was was he really born John Smith?

1832
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 3: That's fun, that's worth a google. Yeah, let's see we

1833
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 3: could do a content with the old kicker John Smith. Yeah,

1834
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 3: you know, do a video which is the real John Smith.

1835
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 2: Josh in Turner's Falls, Mass was wondering what you thought

1836
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 2: about Michael Lombardi saying he views Hopkins as a slot receiver,

1837
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: being a reason he thinks Tennessee might be a better fit.

1838
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,919
Speaker 2: Everyone in New England media pushes the outside receiver aspect.

1839
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 2: I'm hopefully signed, but I'm getting pretty sick of the

1840
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 2: clickbait stuff from Judon and everyone else.

1841
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 5: I don't love him as a pure slot option. I'm

1842
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 5: not saying he can't perform between the hashes and all

1843
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 5: that stuff, but I feel.

1844
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 4: Like that's always the default of, Oh, he can't run anymore,

1845
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 4: so we're just going to move him inside, and that's

1846
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 4: going to.

1847
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 5: Mask the I've never thought of him as being like

1848
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 5: overly quick, which I think is a little bit more

1849
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 5: of a skill set that lends itself to me.

1850
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 4: I could see him being a power slot and potentially,

1851
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 4: but I don't think that that. I don't think it

1852
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 4: would matter if they played him inside or outside.

1853
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 6: But they still move him around, right, I mean, it's

1854
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 6: not like they're just going to slowly keep him in

1855
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 6: that slot row.

1856
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 5: So if you wanted to use him as a slot receiver,

1857
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 5: you know, we've talked about who goes. If someone has

1858
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 5: to go, you know, it'd be you know, maybe it'd

1859
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 5: be better if Kendrick Bourne went than Parker, because everybody

1860
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 5: just says, well, he's the same as I feel like

1861
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 5: I say it all the time. Yeah, he's more of

1862
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 5: a replication of Parker than a slot guy. But maybe

1863
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 5: if you wanted to play him in the slot, maybe

1864
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 5: maybe Born goes.

1865
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 3: Parker remains that guy that we all know that they

1866
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 3: like a lot more than we can see.

1867
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 7: That's because he's like so quiet and doesn't talk and

1868
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 7: doesn't he's.

1869
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 6: It's I mean, what's your thought on this whole like

1870
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 6: contested receiver thing, Like like that's just like it's such

1871
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 6: a skill set people talk about when guys come out,

1872
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 6: They're like, Oh, it's just so hard on contested catches,

1873
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 6: And I'm just I just don't care for them, Like

1874
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 6: I just don't feel like, like, why are we putting

1875
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 6: this as an element in our offense that we need

1876
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 6: to feature? It seems like every now and then you

1877
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 6: just got to take a shot to a guy who's covered,

1878
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 6: and you don't need to like target guys who he

1879
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 6: can't run.

1880
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 2: But you know if you put a jump ball up

1881
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 2: to him, he's really tough on those.

1882
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 3: Like it just doesn't make sense.

1883
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a difference between like a true

1884
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 4: jump ball or like a fifty to fifty ball where

1885
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 4: you just lob it up and hope your guy comes

1886
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 4: down with it, and guys that are good at catching

1887
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 4: the ball in traffic and like I, in order to

1888
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 4: play in the NFL at a high level, you need

1889
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 4: to be able to finish through contact and catching traffic,

1890
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 4: Like you're not going to be opened by five yards

1891
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 4: all the time like you are in college. But I

1892
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,959
Speaker 4: think guys that solely live on the jump ball aspect

1893
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 4: of like let's just lob one up there and hope

1894
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 4: that he goes up and gets it, those guys tend

1895
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 4: to be extremely limited in terms of production. But you know,

1896
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 4: Jacoby was was great at catching the ball in traffic,

1897
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 4: you know, catching it between the numbers with a lot

1898
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 4: of guys around him, and that skill can be really helpful.

1899
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 4: And some people call that contested, but I know what

1900
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 4: you're talking about is more like a fifty to fifty ball.

1901
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 5: He's right and just and that's all we like Mile Harry.

1902
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 5: Every play he made as a Patriot was a contested catch.

1903
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you can only throw so many of those,

1904
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 4: Like even the guys that like lead the league and

1905
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 4: those like kind of fifty to fifty balls are probably

1906
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 4: targeted twenty twenty five times a year on that type

1907
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:46,520
Speaker 4: of throw, So you're you're looking at a very limited.

1908
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 6: I mean, how Parker, I mean, I could probably list

1909
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 6: off at least seven or eight last year that like

1910
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 6: that was you know, kind of just what they did

1911
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 6: with them, especially like the first day of training camp

1912
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 6: that was when they're in the red zone.

1913
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 5: It's just hard to live that way solely. Now, if

1914
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 5: you can get open like like Evan said, Myers got

1915
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 5: opened fifty other times, I feel like, you know, make

1916
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 5: routine catches, but he also could make contested once.

1917
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you have to have if you're not

1918
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 4: going to be a burner like a Tae kwon type,

1919
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 4: you have to have some sort of vertical element of

1920
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 4: your game to play on the outside to set up

1921
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 4: everything else. But the question is is can you separate

1922
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 4: on a slant? Can you get open on a dig route?

1923
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 4: Can you get open on a comeback?

1924
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 7: Like?

1925
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 4: That's like how that's the difference between like Devonte Parker

1926
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 4: and like Prime des Bryant, right, like because des Bryant

1927
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 4: would posterize guys all the time, but he had that

1928
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 4: ability to run routes at the first and second level

1929
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 4: as well to keep you honest and set up the

1930
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 4: jump ball down the field.

1931
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 3: So I get it. That's my answer. Their budget field

1932
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 3: stretchers is what it is.

1933
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:42,679
Speaker 5: They're guys who.

1934
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 6: Can't run, but they have some size, so they'll give

1935
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 6: you some kind of presence downfield.

1936
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 2: You're not totally.

1937
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 3: Devoid of it.

1938
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 18: Got it?

1939
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 2: Okay? Christian in North Carolina says reports are showing d

1940
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 2: hops in New York. I can see him going to

1941
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,799
Speaker 2: the Giants easily. We all know Bill thinks wide receivers

1942
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 2: are irrelevant and that this core can get a on.

1943
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 2: My prediction is this offense will be bottom of the

1944
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 2: league this year. Only so much Billy Oh can help.

1945
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 2: Matt can't do it without weapons, and it will be

1946
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 2: proven this season. Can't wait for a new gm oh boy.

1947
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 3: So I mean, is that he's true? Have you heard

1948
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 3: that he's in New York visiting the Giants?

1949
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 4: I mean he might have posted it on like an

1950
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 4: Instagram that he's in the city of New York. I

1951
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 4: don't know.

1952
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 6: But again, it's the same kind as team as New

1953
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 6: England and the Titans there, you know, the B level

1954
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 6: teams that are trying to get into the contender status.

1955
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 6: So you know, until it's a real contender, I don't

1956
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:33,679
Speaker 6: then I don't think we really have a sense.

1957
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 3: Of where his head's at.

1958
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,440
Speaker 2: You know that, like, yeah, show me visits.

1959
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 6: Kansas City and doesn't get signed a deal, then all right,

1960
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 6: then maybe we know a little bit more about what

1961
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 6: what he wants.

1962
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 4: Another layer to the Jack Jones situation. So apparently the

1963
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 4: Duffel bag that had the guns in it had a

1964
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:53,440
Speaker 4: tag on it that was the tag that every Patriots

1965
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:57,639
Speaker 4: player got when they visited the UFC headquarters last summer

1966
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 4: out in Vegas. So he to personalized tag on the

1967
01:31:02,160 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 4: bag that apparently was something that the whole team got

1968
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 4: at that visit.

1969
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 3: So that seems legally a problem that something with his

1970
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 3: name on it was on the bag. Is that what

1971
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 3: you're getting?

1972
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that the bag was personalized with his name on it.

1973
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 7: What I have that tag?

1974
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 3: Like, be careful with what you put it on.

1975
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 7: Be careful your cousin doesn't try to I have that

1976
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 7: tag if I gave my mom my book bag, like you.

1977
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 5: Just rolling the dice.

1978
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 4: I that's fine. Well that's just I'm telling you. That's

1979
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 4: what the police report is using to say, just solidify

1980
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 4: the fact that it was Jack Jones's bag, was the

1981
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 4: fact that it had a tag on it that said

1982
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 4: Jack Jones's name on it.

1983
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 5: That's not mine. Well, it's not my bag, I think,

1984
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 5: you know.

1985
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 2: According to the lawyer, she didn't say it was in

1986
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 2: his bag. She said he had no intention of guns.

1987
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 2: So the question is, you know, did he pick up

1988
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:59,640
Speaker 2: the wrong bag or did somebody put the guns in

1989
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 2: there other than him? You know, that's the only two

1990
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 2: possible explanations.

1991
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 7: Not stupid enough to like leave his bag somewhere and

1992
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 7: go to the bathroom.

1993
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 3: I mean hopefully, well I do with these guns.

1994
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 2: But honestly, I mean, when when you're at the airport

1995
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 2: for a long time, can you honestly say that for

1996
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: every minute you have your eyes on your stuff?

1997
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 7: But that's not where if I know, if you got back,

1998
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 7: I have that I have definitely gotten from my seat

1999
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 7: and like walk down to throw something away, like I haven't, right, I.

2000
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 5: Can tell you I've never done that since since nine

2001
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 5: to eleven. Yeah, yeah, I like, I don't in charge

2002
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 5: of my my stuff, which someone in my family could

2003
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 5: set me up. I get it.

2004
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 2: No, But if I'm I'm going to extend, I'll ask someone, hey,

2005
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 2: keep an eye on. But if I'm just not not

2006
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:46,600
Speaker 2: a stranger.

2007
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 5: Oh okay, not a stranger. Okay, I thought you think.

2008
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 2: A stranger somebody somebody I'm with. But if I'm like

2009
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 2: I've gone and like walk maybe twenty feet to throw

2010
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 2: something out and then turned around and come back.

2011
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll do that. But even like a bathroom trip.

2012
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 2: No, I don't go to the bathroom. I take him

2013
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:02,600
Speaker 2: with take it with me.

2014
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, hang it up.

2015
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

2016
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 5: It's on the shoulder, bro. You know, multi task.

2017
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,639
Speaker 7: They should definitely make airport bathrooms bigger, because, like you're,

2018
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 7: it's so hard to fit you and your luggage install

2019
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 7: it's crazy.

2020
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 3: Hang things up. You don't want touch the floor there, right? Yeah, turn,

2021
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 3: I still blame you for him.

2022
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 2: Let's see. I don't know why Spied wants to talk

2023
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 2: about the Succession final finale. I'll talk about that, but

2024
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. I never will.

2025
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 5: But oh, okay, hasn't seen the first episode.

2026
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 2: I just can't. I just yeah, it's too much good.

2027
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 2: Everyone liked it was a finale.

2028
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 5: I didn't love love the finale, but it was good.

2029
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 2: It was good time well spend.

2030
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Paul, did you say the second season

2031
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 3: was down a little bit? I think you laid it

2032
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 3: out to me that way. Maybe in one of the

2033
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 3: seasons was a little bit boring, but.

2034
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:08,600
Speaker 5: Only four seasons. Watch. I watched the night Agent on

2035
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 5: was it what day? Did it rain?

2036
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 6: All?

2037
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 5: Day Saturday, Saturday, I watched most of that easy really

2038
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 5: easy watch ten episodes, bang done series?

2039
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 3: What was it?

2040
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 5: The Night Agent?

2041
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 2: The Night Agent?

2042
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't heard it. I think it was Netflix.

2043
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 2: I binged The Marvelous Missus Maisel. You love that great?

2044
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 2: It ended? The series ended? It was it was really good.

2045
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,839
Speaker 2: You had already seen the yes, oh yeah, it was excellent.

2046
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's really good.

2047
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 5: After how many seasons of that? Is there four? I think, oh,

2048
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 5: so that's an easy watch too. You can get through that.

2049
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 2: Four or five maybe, but it was, it was excellent.

2050
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 5: I've never seen it.

2051
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I have a better question. Would you guys do

2052
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 7: for Father's Day?

2053
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 3: Nothing? I just wanted ice cream?

2054
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 5: That was fine, uneventful, eventful.

2055
01:34:57,880 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 3: Watched some baseball in the morning.

2056
01:34:59,360 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 7: Was it.

2057
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 4: Wow, you're not gonna ask me what I did for

2058
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 4: Father's Day? You're what are you like? A dog?

2059
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 2: Parent? Dog dad?

2060
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 5: Hashtag dogs and went for a walk.

2061
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 2: Actually, we were at the Red Sox game with the dog.

2062
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 4: We were supposed to be at the Red Sox game

2063
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:18,680
Speaker 4: on Saturday night and it got it got rained out,

2064
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 4: so we went on Sunday. Really messed up our entire

2065
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 4: Father's Day plan with my actual father who was a

2066
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 4: real father, not a dog dad.

2067
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 5: And so yeah, I did get a nice call from

2068
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 5: Bermuda for my son.

2069
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 7: That was.

2070
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 5: Collect three shades of green except the charge water bottles

2071
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 5: next to them, and that's a hydrate bro.

2072
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 4: In all honesty, Like, do you feel like just an

2073
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 4: acknowledgment of the day or do you feel like you

2074
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 4: don't want to be wined and dine or anything like that?

2075
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 7: Just like I definitely feel like Mother's Day and Father's

2076
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 7: Day is way different.

2077
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:52,680
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, you don't miss Mother's Day.

2078
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 5: Mother's Day is like brunch or something far. Yeah, yeah,

2079
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 5: Father's Day is another day and I and I'm just

2080
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 5: like Fred, I'm perfectly fine with that.

2081
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 4: I make a big deal out of both. But I

2082
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 4: don't think it's necessarily because my dad cares. I think

2083
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 4: my mom wants to do it for him. Yeah, so

2084
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 4: both times, there are occasions, And.

2085
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,759
Speaker 5: My dad's birthday is the twenty first, so it always

2086
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 5: kind of coincides anyway.

2087
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 2: L from Wisconsin. I think Craft's saying money isn't an

2088
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,759
Speaker 2: issue is not pressuring Bill to sign high priced players,

2089
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,560
Speaker 2: but rather an attempt to absolve guilt for Bill not

2090
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 2: signing those players. I think whatever Juju was being paid

2091
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,719
Speaker 2: is already way too much for that position in Bill's mind.

2092
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 2: I don't see any way Hopkins comes to New England.

2093
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 5: Well, if that kind of stuff is true, and I

2094
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 5: don't necessarily disagree with them, they have bigger problems if

2095
01:36:42,160 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 5: they're not adjusting to the economic times of the league. Yeah,

2096
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 5: because Juju Smith is not quote unquote overpaid for that position. Now,

2097
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 5: if you don't think he's that good or whatever, I mean,

2098
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 5: that's what players cost money, exactly, and at some point

2099
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:58,000
Speaker 5: they you know, if Bill is really still stuck in

2100
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,959
Speaker 5: two thousand and three and thinks these are all overpaid,

2101
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 5: then that's a problem.

2102
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 4: I've thought that for a couple of years now. Is

2103
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 4: my number one concern is the market at the skill position,

2104
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:13,600
Speaker 4: specifically wide receivers, has really skewed. It has changed dramatically

2105
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 4: that those guys are now becoming essentially the highest paid

2106
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 4: non quarterbacks in the NFL. Like the top wide receivers

2107
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 4: now are it's quarterback and then it's receiver. And the

2108
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 4: Patriots are one of the few teams that has not adjusted.

2109
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 4: And once upon a time you could say that their

2110
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 4: payment structure in the way that they they went about

2111
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 4: things where they were winning all these championships. It was working,

2112
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 4: But now it's not working anymore. And the teams that

2113
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 4: are overpaying the wide receivers in air quotes are winning.

2114
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 4: So it is. You know, Philadelphia is in the Super

2115
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 4: Bowl last year. They spent all sorts of assets on

2116
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 4: wide receivers. That was that a bad decision for them?

2117
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 5: Well, I always say, when you have a really good

2118
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,679
Speaker 5: player on your team, do you ever say to yourself,

2119
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 5: he's really good, but man, is he overpaid? Have you

2120
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 5: ever said that or thought that, like you have a like,

2121
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 5: oh boy, I'll tell you that Patrick Mahomes, he's a

2122
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 5: really good quarterback, but I can't believe they pay him

2123
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 5: that much money much.

2124
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2125
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:10,839
Speaker 5: Now, I'm let's eliminate the fact that all athletes are overpaid,

2126
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 5: like in real world, real life times. I'm just buy

2127
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 5: football standards, Like I don't think you would ever lament

2128
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 5: giving a guy a lot of money who's really good

2129
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 5: for you, right, Yeah, I mean until.

2130
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 2: The moment he isn't. Then money becomes the issue.

2131
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 4: Until they prove that a bigger issue is that he's

2132
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 4: not doing what you thought he was going to do, right, Yeah,

2133
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 4: until they prove that they can draft at the position

2134
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,599
Speaker 4: at wide receiver, they got to do something. They either

2135
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 4: have to be you either have to be good at

2136
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 4: drafting them or you have to pay them. Like there's

2137
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 4: no you can't go in this like middle ground of

2138
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 4: just kind of going down the middle. You can't do

2139
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 4: that because you're going to be dranked twenty ninth in

2140
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 4: the league in terms of your wide receiving courts.

2141
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:52,599
Speaker 2: And if you're good at drafting, eventually you gotta pay him.

2142
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 7: Do you think that's with like every position?

2143
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 5: Though, Like with J C.

2144
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 7: Jackson, would you have paid him or are you?

2145
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 2: Are you cool with letting him out? I was cool

2146
01:38:59,040 --> 01:38:59,600
Speaker 2: with letting him go.

2147
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:03,719
Speaker 4: I think defense is different. I think the top defensive

2148
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 4: players in the league are going to push that twenty

2149
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 4: plus million dollar mark. But for the most part, the

2150
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 4: other guys are all kind of the same. I think

2151
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 4: they're you have to look, you know, they're needle moving

2152
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 4: positions wide receiver, quarterback, pass rusher, and like a true

2153
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 4: premier corner.

2154
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 5: I was okay letting him go because I didn't think

2155
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 5: he was that good right now. If I thought he

2156
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 5: was Steph.

2157
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 4: Gilmore, Oh in his prime, it's different, well it would

2158
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 4: have been.

2159
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 3: And then I thought had a good like he kind

2160
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 3: of brought up Jack Jones and J. C. Jackson like

2161
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 3: kind of you know, I know jac Jackson wasn't drafted,

2162
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 3: he had some issues, but similar kind of guys, you know,

2163
01:39:32,160 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 3: and like those for the ball. Maybe not like a

2164
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 3: you know, a perfect man corner, but can play and

2165
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 3: has a nose for the.

2166
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 2: Ball, that kind of thing. Let's see Kyle and Pembroke.

2167
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 2: It sucks that Jack Jones incident has happened. And while

2168
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 2: as a fan, I'm hoping for that magical story that

2169
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 2: allows him to play, because I do think he was

2170
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 2: developing into something special, I'm not super worried. While Speed

2171
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 2: and Bolden aren't as talented, they have raw attributes that

2172
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 2: make me hopeful. Six foot and four to three speed,

2173
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 2: with Bill Belichick free to coach more on defense, I'm

2174
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:09,599
Speaker 2: hoping one of them develops into a capable rotation piece.

2175
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 2: Do you guys think that'll be their approach or do

2176
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 2: you think they try to bring someone in.

2177
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 6: I mean, I guess I think that maybe they'll give

2178
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 6: those guys a chance just so they do have some

2179
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 6: depth there. I would not be surprised if they brought

2180
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 6: somebody in. I have a hard time convincing myself that

2181
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 6: a Mere Speed and Isaiah Bolden are.

2182
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 2: Going to go from what they were. I don't think

2183
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:29,599
Speaker 2: they need corners.

2184
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 5: I really don't think those two guys need to be

2185
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 5: rotational pieces on defense.

2186
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 4: I think Jalen Mills moving to safety was like a luxury.

2187
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 4: We could do this because we do it. We drafted

2188
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 4: Gonzales and now we have all this depth. So if

2189
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 4: he goes back to playing more corner, maybe he plays

2190
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 4: a little bit of a hybrid of both, and there

2191
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 4: are still four deep at corner.

2192
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 5: And you guys can correct me if I'm not remembering properly,

2193
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 5: but I felt like Mills got a lot of time

2194
01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:58,639
Speaker 5: at safety. I felt like he was in the slot

2195
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,720
Speaker 5: a lot or I very rarely saw him as that

2196
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,600
Speaker 5: deep guy, which I would have thought they want the

2197
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 5: Devn replacement. I would have thought that's where they're looking

2198
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 5: at Jalen Mills. I'm not saying he didn't take any

2199
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:11,759
Speaker 5: snaps there, but I didn't remember. I remember seeing closer

2200
01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 5: the line of skage than that. Well, so they did

2201
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 5: a lot of pool. I saw back deep more than

2202
01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 5: than Jalen Mills.

2203
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 4: The offense was running a lot of too tight end

2204
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 4: because of the personnel that they had available, and the

2205
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:24,599
Speaker 4: defense was matching in those big nickel and big dime

2206
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 4: packages with the three safeties. But to me, Jalen Mills,

2207
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 4: his ideal role for them was freeing up Kyle Duggar

2208
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:35,719
Speaker 4: and Jabriel Peppers and Adrian Phillips to play more natural

2209
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 4: safety roles and not that box, you know, hybrid role

2210
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 4: as much because Mills could cover tight ends and Mills

2211
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 4: could play out of the slot and and be a

2212
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:46,720
Speaker 4: little bit more of like a man coverage guy, which

2213
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 4: would have freed up Kyle Duggar to be a little

2214
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 4: more flexible.

2215
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 2: Eight five five pass five hundred is the ace taken hutline.

2216
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:57,599
Speaker 2: Eldred's in North Carolina. What's up, Eldred? Aldred?

2217
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 18: Hey, lady, Hey doing all right?

2218
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2219
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 18: Kind of breaking up with it? That's me as a yacht.

2220
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 5: I think it's you. You sound great, you said, okay, okay,

2221
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 5: all right.

2222
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:14,000
Speaker 18: Then heaven hell you man. But long as Bill's GM,

2223
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:17,679
Speaker 18: we'll never get a top receiver draft wise or pay wise.

2224
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 18: That's not in this DNA. I'm sorry you had a

2225
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 18: chance to get Diggs we had Brady, you had a

2226
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 18: chance to get Hopkins. When we had Brady, you didn't

2227
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 18: do neither. You had a chance to get oval A

2228
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 18: last year you got a guard. But he's not going

2229
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 18: that's not in this DNA.

2230
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 7: Man.

2231
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 18: You know, you like them flow guys with the Giant

2232
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 18: had back in the nineties that could jump just get

2233
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 18: the ball, you know, and then you know that's just

2234
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 18: that's just him. He got his philosophy on what he's

2235
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 18: paying until we get rid of the GM. We all

2236
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 18: we had this question that wide receiver. Yeah, everybody said,

2237
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 18: but Phil, I might see it, but he ain't paying it.

2238
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't think. I'm I just disagree

2239
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 4: with that philosophy. I'm not saying that I think that

2240
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 4: he's gonna change the stripes. I just don't think it's

2241
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:03,680
Speaker 4: the right way to go about it.

2242
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 18: I don't think, dude, But I hope, Uh, I don't know.

2243
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 18: That's kind of dumb. Take guns to to a alfoy

2244
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:13,560
Speaker 18: because you know, you look, you didn't get shocked, but

2245
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 18: I thought you were the terrorist. You never know, but uh,

2246
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 18: but uh, speed, I just hope they coached that guy

2247
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 18: up because I like it's living at speed. You know,

2248
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 18: and the other guys I see death on the roster

2249
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 18: six to one whatever, six two. I don't know if

2250
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 18: they can play, but if I was the cornerback coach,

2251
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:32,599
Speaker 18: I'll try to coach him up.

2252
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 6: You know.

2253
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 18: Yeah, well the what I got. You have a good one,

2254
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:36,680
Speaker 18: all right?

2255
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 2: Thanks? Aldred?

2256
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean look at that that

2257
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:49,719
Speaker 5: defensive backfield again, you know, Gonzales, Jonathan Jones, Marcus Jones,

2258
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:59,559
Speaker 5: Jalen Mills, Kyle Duger, Adrian Phillips, Jabrill Peppers, that's Brian Miles, Bryant,

2259
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 5: thank you, Josh Bledsoe mob who possibly part of the

2260
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 5: secondary as opposed to linebacker. But in that mix, you

2261
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 5: have to go eight nine deep before you get to

2262
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 5: Sean Wade, a Mere Speed or Isaiah Bolden. I think

2263
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 5: that Speed and Bolden do have athletic traits that would

2264
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 5: lend themselves to being able to play at the NFL

2265
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 5: level on special teams. And if you can do that,

2266
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:32,719
Speaker 5: then maybe eventually you can become, you know, a rotational

2267
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 5: piece on defense. But I don't think the twenty twenty

2268
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:37,599
Speaker 5: three even without Jack Jones, I don't think in twenty

2269
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 5: twenty three they'll need those either. One of those guys

2270
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 5: to be a rotational piece. I don't think anyway.

2271
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't say that they would need them. I

2272
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 4: think that they it opens up a roster spot to

2273
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 4: carry them as a special teamer potentially. And you know,

2274
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 4: I look at not the pick on them, but I

2275
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 4: look at a guy like Miles Bryan, a mere speed

2276
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 4: in Isaiah Bolden have much better body types for the

2277
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 4: kicking game than somebody like Myles Brian And we saw

2278
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:03,080
Speaker 4: that last year in Buffalo, where you just have the

2279
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 4: size and to be more a better tackler in space

2280
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 4: on special teams. So I just look at it as

2281
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 4: more of like a roster spot than necessarily playing on defense,

2282
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:16,759
Speaker 4: where it frees up that fifth cornerback spot who absolutely

2283
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:18,800
Speaker 4: will have to play on special teams to be active

2284
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,679
Speaker 4: on game day, and maybe that does free up something

2285
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 4: for one of the two rookies, Rick and Louisville.

2286
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 2: I hate the what if game, but I'll be a

2287
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 2: hypocrite and player. What F Jones is cut? Do you

2288
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 2: think there's a good chance Mills returns to corner?

2289
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:33,960
Speaker 3: Probably?

2290
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that Mills can play safety

2291
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 5: in corner, Yes.

2292
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Mills. Either ways, was probably going to

2293
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 4: be sort of like a reserve corner that in case

2294
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,640
Speaker 4: of emergency if they needed the depth there, that he

2295
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:49,960
Speaker 4: could move back to playing outside corner. That's not going

2296
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 4: to be their starting lineup, Like, I don't think that's

2297
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 4: their ideal week one way of doing things, but he's

2298
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 4: back in the mix either way.

2299
01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 2: I think this is an off topic, but Brandon writes

2300
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 2: in about the Brady effect. I was just thinking about

2301
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,559
Speaker 2: how players in the nineties are criticized for not winning

2302
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:11,599
Speaker 2: championships because of Jordan, like he blocked them. What about Tom?

2303
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 2: How many Super Bowls would Mahomes already have? I think

2304
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 2: the better one is Manning Peyton Manning.

2305
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 4: Peyton Manhomes would have won more, right twenty eighteen?

2306
01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:22,759
Speaker 2: How many more would Peyton Manning have if Brady wasn't around.

2307
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:25,639
Speaker 4: Oh, I guess because the Tampa I just like blocked

2308
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 4: the Tampa boy.

2309
01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, because he blocked him with the AC Championship

2310
01:46:29,479 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 5: game and he beat him in the Super Bowl.

2311
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:33,560
Speaker 6: I mean, I wonder would Philip Rivers have gotten the

2312
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 6: Super Bowl maybe, like you know, those guys that.

2313
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 5: Charger's team, certainly, I don't. I don't know if they

2314
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 5: were sustained, but that two thousand and six was a

2315
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 5: very good football team.

2316
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:46,639
Speaker 3: I mean they're sixteen one. You said the twenty sixteen,

2317
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 3: you said two.

2318
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:47,680
Speaker 5: Thousand and six.

2319
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's what the Seahawks would have been a dynasty, ye, Merryman.

2320
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 4: The legion of Boom Seahawks would have been a dynasty

2321
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 4: if it wasn't for pe Catt.

2322
01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2323
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 5: Sure, I like Pete due That was a cheap shot,

2324
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 5: Darryl Belly, because I do like Pete. Pete was nice

2325
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:09,000
Speaker 5: to me my one year here that he was here.

2326
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 2: Paul and Drake it, I don't think this season ever

2327
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 2: was answered. I don't think. I'm sorry, I don't think

2328
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 2: this question was ever answered when it was posed at

2329
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 2: the end of December. Do you folks think now that

2330
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 2: the team hired Billy Oh, that Patricia and Judge as

2331
01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 2: Ocs was an emergency plan while waiting for Billy Oh

2332
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:29,599
Speaker 2: at this point, does it concern you if the answer

2333
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 2: is yes, yes, or is this now irrelevant because it

2334
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 2: may have taken a year, but we got our guy.

2335
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 6: I'm with Paul, with Paul too, and it's it's most

2336
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 6: confounding to me now of what what exactly the hope

2337
01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 6: was for how that was going to work out last year.

2338
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 6: But I mean, and I said it on the show,

2339
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:52,560
Speaker 6: just just watching remembering Matt Patricia run from coordinating the

2340
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 6: offense over to the offensive line as they waited for

2341
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 6: him to come and provide coaching and instruction. Like it's

2342
01:47:58,040 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 6: just back to normal now, where you have a offense

2343
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 6: line coach down at Dante's Lilary and they're doing their thing, and.

2344
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 2: The more we get away from it, more head scratch.

2345
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 2: I kind of still think it was a plan B.

2346
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 2: But I also think that Bill thought it could work.

2347
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:15,680
Speaker 2: I thought he honestly thought that, you know what, just

2348
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 2: could work.

2349
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 5: Right. So what I'm saying is if he went into

2350
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:22,720
Speaker 5: it saying, I'm gonna put these guys in for one

2351
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:24,640
Speaker 5: year and then just get Billy, No, no, no, no,

2352
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,600
Speaker 5: that's what that's the theory. Yeah, And I think we

2353
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 5: all think that that's negligent if that was the theory.

2354
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:32,799
Speaker 4: I just I think about it in terms of the quarterback,

2355
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 4: like you had this second year quarterback and needed the

2356
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,800
Speaker 4: proper coaching and needed to be developed and needed to

2357
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 4: be brought along, and you very well could have ruined.

2358
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:44,519
Speaker 4: You might have still, like Bill O'Brien. I know that

2359
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:47,599
Speaker 4: we saw some good flashes and some good things from

2360
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:49,680
Speaker 4: Mac in the spring, it still doesn't look all the

2361
01:48:49,720 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 4: way back to me like it still doesn't look to

2362
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 4: me like his confidence and and sort of his you know,

2363
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 4: overall demeanor is one hundred percent back to where it

2364
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 4: was in his rookie year. And if they the last

2365
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 4: year's experiment ruined Mac Jones for good, then that is

2366
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 4: a really the whole that says the whole organization back

2367
01:49:10,120 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 4: a decade.

2368
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 5: Probably again. I know someone said, we don't like to

2369
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 5: play what ifs, but what if that what if that's right?

2370
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 5: What if he irreparably damaged Mac Jones? You still feel

2371
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 5: good because it was a plan only to be a

2372
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 5: one stop shot and then replaced him with Billy O'Brien.

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01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm just saying that.

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Speaker 5: I think chess checkers.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Bill went into it though I can't

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Speaker 2: get Bill O'Brien.

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Speaker 5: I think that he felt like Matt Patricia was a

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01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 5: better option than anything else he had. Yeah, and that's

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Speaker 5: what he did, and it didn't work, and he said,

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01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 5: I gotta see if I can get Bill O'Brien. Now, now, okay,

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01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:46,840
Speaker 5: you could even argue whether or not that was his choice.

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01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 5: That's true, because I would make an argument against even that,

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01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 5: but I'm not gonna do it. But it's any And

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01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 5: it also is.

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Speaker 4: Like the next step two of naming Joe Judge the

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01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:58,639
Speaker 4: quarterbacks coach on top of an inexperienced play caller running

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01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 4: the offense. So you didn't even go out and get

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01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 4: a real quarterbacks coach. You just threw Joe Judge in

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01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 4: that position. So maybe you could have kept the trade

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01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 4: on the tracks a little bit if you had Mac

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01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 4: working with somebody that was an experienced quarterbacks coach. But

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01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 4: instead you threw two you know, kind of wrenches at

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01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:20,599
Speaker 4: him and and now all of a sudden, we're putting

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01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 4: we're putting Humpty Dumpty back together again, and he might

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01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:24,640
Speaker 4: not be able to.

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Speaker 6: That's a good point, em because I there wasn't really

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01:50:27,920 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 6: a buffer, like it would have been nice maybe if

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01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 6: there was just a buffer from the craziness of someone

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Speaker 6: that Matt could have confided in a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit, no one to play good cop back right, it

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01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:38,640
Speaker 4: was just right, or even just like kept him mechanically

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01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:39,680
Speaker 4: in tow, you know, like.

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01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:43,720
Speaker 5: He couldn't he couldn't feel comfortable with any of that.

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01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 3: Right, it'll be different from each one of them.

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01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:49,840
Speaker 4: Right, It's just even beyond like game plan and in

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01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:52,640
Speaker 4: gameplay calling and all that type of stuff. Like if

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01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 4: you just had a Jerry Schlipplinsky type or you know,

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01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:58,560
Speaker 4: Bo hart Agree who knew new quarterbacks and worked with

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01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 4: quarterbacks and Jetfish Jedfish, like maybe his mechanics and in

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01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 4: the way that he actually threw the ball wouldn't completely Jedfish.

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01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 4: You wouldn't completely have gone off the rails by by

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01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 4: the first Bills game.

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01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 7: You know.

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01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 2: It just the whole thing was a process. I'm of

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01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:16,800
Speaker 2: the mind it considers me that Belichick essentially roll the

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01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 2: dice for a year if it was the case, But

2417
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 2: given will never know. Maybe I just pretend last season

2418
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:24,400
Speaker 2: ever happened like the cam Yere and look forward to

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01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:25,679
Speaker 2: a fresh start this season.

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01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 6: I just I think the thing I can't shake is

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01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 6: that why why wouldn't you just go hire a new

2422
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 6: young offensive coordinator who's outside of the building and you know,

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01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 6: try to go different direction, And so that's why it does.

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01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 6: I can't rule out that, like I can't get one

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01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 6: of my guys back. Let's just kind of ride it

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01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 6: out with a couple of my guys and see how

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01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 6: it goes.

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01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:46,000
Speaker 4: Why why didn't we go through the same process they

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01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 4: went through this offseason and now, And I know the

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01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:50,320
Speaker 4: press release was a little bit out of character and

2431
01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:53,679
Speaker 4: things like that, but an interview process, a legitimate interview

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01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:57,240
Speaker 4: process that did not happen after Josh McDaniels left. And

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01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 4: Josh McDaniels left what in January right for? It wasn't

2434
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 4: like he left, you know, and at last minute and

2435
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you know, decided to pivot and

2436
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:08,680
Speaker 4: go to the Raiders. This was a known thing that

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01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:12,600
Speaker 4: was going on. It just why we didn't have a

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01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 4: real search and a real interview process and interview real

2439
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:20,840
Speaker 4: experienced guys, whether it was from the college or the

2440
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:23,599
Speaker 4: pro game and gone about it that way. I still

2441
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 4: just can't understand.

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01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 7: Maybe Bill was just pitched a plan to mister Craft

2443
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 7: and said, like, I think this could work, and must

2444
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:32,400
Speaker 7: have convinced him. But now I think that because we

2445
01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 7: don't because that experiment, experiment, not my words, someone else's words,

2446
01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:40,600
Speaker 7: experiment went wrong. It's like now he's like gonna have

2447
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:42,839
Speaker 7: to listen to mister Craft and whatever he says.

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01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:46,559
Speaker 2: So all right, that's gonna do it for this edition

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Speaker 2: of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back Thursday. I'm sure that

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Speaker 2: there'll be more news. Hopefully it'll be better than today's news.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you then.

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