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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer next hour. Every week at this time we do.

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Speaker 1: Colin Wright, Colin Wrong had another good blazing five got

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Speaker 1: Philly tonight three and one. Let's go to right and wrong.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: It's time to all acknowledge what we've been talking about.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love is out of this world. Good three tuddies,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty one passer rating. He was the

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Speaker 1: difference yesterday. Green Bay's defense got really tired. He didn't.

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Speaker 1: He's finally got a healthy wide receiving corps. Green Bay

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Speaker 1: a huge part of it is Jordan Love's tall, moves, aggressive,

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Speaker 1: not a lot of mistakes. It's time to admit it, folks.

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Speaker 1: He's He's elite where Colin was wraw All scale back

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Speaker 1: on my Cowboy Love. They gave up forty four to Detroit.

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Speaker 1: But the truth is their past defense gives up two

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Speaker 1: Downs of Ohio State. They're a really fun watch. I

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Speaker 1: love their future, but defensively they still need help.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right said.

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Speaker 1: This last couple of years, Josh Allen is the best

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL, not Patrick Mahomes. Josh is a

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Speaker 1: more transformational physical specimen for total touchdowns, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: He's got a lot to work with. He's got tight

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Speaker 1: ends yesterday. He couldn't trust in the red zone James Cook,

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Speaker 1: So let's give him the MVP again. He doesn't have

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Speaker 1: the trophy case. But the best quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's not Lamar, it's not Aaron Rodgers, it's not Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: it's not it's Josh Allen and has been for two years.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was raw.

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Speaker 1: The Indiana Hoosiers are a college football power. Hard to

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Speaker 1: television for the last forty years. They went toe to

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza, because Ohio State Julian Sands a great quarterback too.

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Speaker 1: They the Hoosiers held Ohio State to fifty eight yards rushing,

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Speaker 1: to ten points. So this wasn't just about a great

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Speaker 1: the number one program right now in college football blew

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Speaker 1: me away where Colin was right. I've been defending Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers all year. He's not the problem. He's the most

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Speaker 1: redeemable quality. He threw the ball down the field yesterday.

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Speaker 1: been critical of Aaron before. He's a bit, you know,

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins have won four straight. They have the

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Speaker 1: same record as the Chiefs and the Ravens. Listen, Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. I was wrong where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: The Miami Hurricanes are gonna jump over Notre Dame. That's

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Speaker 1: I don't really have a problem with Notre Dame bailing

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Speaker 1: the past within the next two years. But I thought

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald said it last year, I have said it

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Speaker 1: this year. He is the defensive Sean McVeigh Seattle. This

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Speaker 1: guy is no BS alpha, smart player friendly. This is

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Speaker 1: the second youngest offense in the League. He lets Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold make mistakes, he doesn't over coach, he doesn't go conservative.

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Speaker 1: Seattle found themselves the defensive version of Sean McVeigh, and

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Speaker 1: they'll play each other twice a year going forward.

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Speaker 2: Heard hierarchy No go. The top ten NFL teams according to.

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Speaker 1: Collin Number ten Well listen. The Bills are flawed, but

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Speaker 1: they have won twelve straight home games in December and January,

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Speaker 1: too much of them, which is why they've had twelve

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Speaker 1: giveaways in five games. They're not a clean team. They

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Speaker 1: can get sloppy. They're bad against the run, although they've

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen can take them. I don't trust them situationally.

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Speaker 1: They were fumbling near the goal line this week. I

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Speaker 1: think right now the best quarterback in the world, not

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Speaker 1: number ten, number nine. The Chargers are now five and

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Speaker 1: zero in prime time this season. They're a big stage

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Speaker 1: single game. I have the Chargers at nine, number eight.

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Speaker 1: I can't even figure the Niners out. How in the

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Speaker 1: world do they have the number one scoring defense since

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Speaker 1: Week eleven? Robert Sala I don't like their defensive personnel.

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Speaker 1: the Bears. They lead the NFL in turnover differential. They

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Speaker 1: bang on Caleb Williams completing fifty eight percent of his throws,

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Speaker 1: tied for the fewest sacks allowed. Some of that's just

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Speaker 1: Darnold's good on his feet. But I have Seattle at

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Speaker 1: a little more experienced, and I get offensive coach Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton first game though this year they have not trailed. Listen,

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Offensive line Sean Payton's got at number

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Speaker 1: one after a couple of years. I love their roster.

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Speaker 1: I really like their roster. I wish their quarterback wasn't

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Speaker 1: Seattle number three Green Bay. I may have them low

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Speaker 1: best third down offense, tied for the fewest giveaways. They're

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Speaker 1: a very smart, clean young team. I thought last year

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Speaker 1: they were a bit too young. I love that Christian

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Speaker 1: Watson is healthy because Jordan Love like a Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 1: Not always bad for Dallas, but it was brilliant because

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Speaker 1: they're going to lead a lot of games late and

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Speaker 1: he's the closer. I have Green Bay at three, number

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Speaker 1: winning streak. Are they a bit young? Is Drake may ready? Listen?

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Speaker 1: They have played the easiest schedule in the NFL. That

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Speaker 1: needs to be noted. Houston could be better. Houston's played

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Speaker 2: At two number one.

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Speaker 1: The Rams boy was Devonte Adams. A steal leads the

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Speaker 1: NFL with fourteen touchdowns. Fuka Nikua, by the way, averaging

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, seven time Super Bowl champ, Fox Sports twenty

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Speaker 1: three NFL season, All right, boy, you got a good

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Speaker 5: I think what Stafford and McVeigh have going between the

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Speaker 1: So obviously you can improve as any athlete, but somebody

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Speaker 5: up the entire middle part of the field.

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Speaker 2: So it's easy if you're not as.

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Speaker 5: Tall to throw to the perimeter of the field because

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Speaker 5: there's more vision out there. You're only probably working through

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Speaker 5: a tackle. But when you're looking over the middle of

436
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Speaker 5: the field, let's say between the hashes, you're looking between

437
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Speaker 5: the right guard, the center, and the left guard, you've

438
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Speaker 5: got to have the height to see over the top

439
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Speaker 5: of people. And then the delivery has to be over

440
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Speaker 5: the top of the offensive lineman and the defensive linemen.

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Speaker 5: And those guys are big guys. Those guys aren't five

442
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Speaker 5: foot ten, those guys are six foot two, six foot three,

443
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Speaker 5: So you've got to have the arm angle to get

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Speaker 5: the ball over them, and that opens up the middle

445
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Speaker 5: part of the field. So what I see with a

446
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Speaker 5: lot of guys who aren't as tall, they throw the

447
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Speaker 5: ball more to the perimeter of the field. It's harder

448
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Speaker 5: to throw the ball to the perimeter of the field

449
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Speaker 5: because the ball has a longer distance to go and

450
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Speaker 5: you don't get as much run after catch if you're

451
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Speaker 5: running across the field and a short, shallow route over

452
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Speaker 5: the middle.

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Speaker 6: If you catch it, you've.

454
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Speaker 5: Got twenty five yards from the point you catch it

455
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Speaker 5: in the middle to turn the ball up the sideline

456
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Speaker 5: where you can gain a lot of yards after catch.

457
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Speaker 5: So I just I think there's I'm not saying you

458
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Speaker 5: can't be successful if you're under six foot two, it's

459
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Speaker 5: just the chance of being successful is less. And yes,

460
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Speaker 5: there are anomalies. I think Drew Brees is one of them.

461
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Speaker 5: Drew Brees played very tall. You standing up in the

462
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Speaker 5: pocket a lot of times he was up on the

463
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Speaker 5: balls of his feet. He had a very high release,

464
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Speaker 5: the ball came out very quickly, so he found a

465
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Speaker 5: way to but he also worked at it extremely hard

466
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Speaker 5: for a long time in order to make those improvements

467
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Speaker 5: as well. And I don't think you can discount the

468
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Speaker 5: fact that if you want to be successful in the NFL,

469
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Speaker 5: you better have the drive and termination every day of

470
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Speaker 5: your life, in season and offseason, to try to go

471
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Speaker 5: out and be the best in the world. You got

472
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Speaker 5: to be brushing your teeth in the morning, thinking about

473
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Speaker 5: your throwing mechanics, thinking about the calls your coach is

474
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Speaker 5: going to make on third down, the anticipation you need

475
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Speaker 5: to throw in a particular game.

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Speaker 6: This has to be your life. It has to be

477
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Speaker 6: so important.

478
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Speaker 5: That you're thinking about it all day, every day, certainly

479
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Speaker 5: during the season.

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Speaker 1: So I had picked before the season. Sometimes I get lucky.

481
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Speaker 1: I said, the team that's going to double their win

482
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Speaker 1: total and make the playoffs that you think is bad

483
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Speaker 1: as New England. I did not think Drake may would

484
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Speaker 1: be this good this early. What was the first thing

485
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Speaker 1: you saw with Drake? First thing you saw you played

486
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Speaker 1: the position and you went, oh, Okay, that's beyond franchise.

487
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Speaker 1: That's because I think the NFL historically gives you a

488
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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback every year to the draft, but every five

489
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Speaker 1: years you get a U. You get them Montana Rare.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just a TV viewer. What did you

491
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Speaker 1: see that I couldn't spot early with this ascension?

492
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Speaker 5: Well, some of it is. You know, Josh McDaniel is

493
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Speaker 5: still one of my great friends. I mean, I've known

494
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Speaker 5: him for twenty five years, and he just talks about

495
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Speaker 5: his work ethic, his willingness to get better and improve weekend.

496
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Speaker 6: And week out.

497
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Speaker 5: He's a sponge for information, and that's more important to

498
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Speaker 5: me than what I see on the film because when

499
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Speaker 5: I hear that, I know that he's doing the thing

500
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Speaker 5: that takes during the week that are going to show

501
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Speaker 5: up consistently on the field. Other people, other coaches with

502
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Speaker 5: other teams will say their quarterback, as you know, he's

503
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Speaker 5: the first one out of the building. You know, he's

504
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Speaker 5: he's he doesn't study, he does, never opens his iPad.

505
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Speaker 5: I hear that from time to time and I go, okay,

506
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Speaker 5: well I could see why on the film.

507
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Speaker 6: Well that guy's not being successful.

508
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Speaker 5: So with Drake he has the physical ability, he has

509
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Speaker 5: the size, but I think in terms of physical skill set,

510
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Speaker 5: his downfield passing.

511
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Speaker 6: Ability is awesome.

512
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Speaker 5: So you know, Josh McDaniels has done incredible job this

513
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Speaker 5: year for the Patriots. Drake is running the same system

514
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Speaker 5: that I was in. I know how good that system

515
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Speaker 5: is for quarterbacks. How Josh does teach these young quarterbacks

516
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Speaker 5: all the different reasons why he's doing what he's doing,

517
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Speaker 5: why we're trying to beat this coverage, or how we're

518
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Speaker 5: going to protect to give you the best chance to

519
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Speaker 5: be successful. So he's in a great system to be successful.

520
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Speaker 5: Rabel is focusing on the defense, as he should be. Josh,

521
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Speaker 5: focus on the offense. That offense just like in the

522
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Speaker 5: early two thousands. The offense is carrying the defense, just

523
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Speaker 5: like in Rabel's defense of the days when I was

524
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Speaker 5: a young second year quarterback in New England.

525
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Speaker 6: That's the way it goes.

526
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Speaker 1: So we've had this argument this week. Everybody is telling me,

527
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Speaker 1: they say, well, the Chiefs are just a little retool.

528
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Speaker 1: I mean, they've got Ma Holmes and they've got Andy Reid.

529
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Speaker 1: And I said, time out, name their ten best players.

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Speaker 1: I said, if you name the Seahawks, you get down

531
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Speaker 1: to eight and you're like, damn, guys, that guy's the

532
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Speaker 1: third best guy in the league in his position. The

533
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Speaker 1: Rams ten best players, I'm like, man, Jared versus three,

534
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Speaker 1: he could be there. Yeah, you get to the Chiefs

535
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Speaker 1: ten best. I'm not talking legacy and resume, and I'm

536
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Speaker 1: saying I think it's better than Buffalo's roster that I

537
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Speaker 1: don't love. I think it's a little bit more of

538
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Speaker 1: a rebuild. You know, once you pay you took pay

539
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Speaker 1: cuts for a lot of this stuff. You start paying

540
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Speaker 1: fifty five fifty eight for a quarterback. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a bit more of a rebuild in Kansas City? Am

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Speaker 1: I wrong?

543
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Speaker 5: It'll be interesting to see what happens. You know, we'll

544
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Speaker 5: see how the season plays out. But they have Andy Reid,

545
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Speaker 5: they have Patrick Mahomes, they have Steve Spagnolo, Rered, Veitch

546
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Speaker 5: Clark Hunt, they got the foundations for success in Kansas City.

547
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Speaker 5: So I know it's been not a typical year for them.

548
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Speaker 5: I'm never counting them out until they're mathematically eliminated. I

549
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 5: think when you have Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and

550
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Speaker 5: you're competing against them, you should worry about them.

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Speaker 2: They are battle tested.

552
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Speaker 5: They have proven that there's competitive as anybody in the league.

553
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Speaker 5: So there's always chances for every team. They're going to

554
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 5: have to fix things at the end of every season.

555
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 5: Every team's gonna have to fix things at the end

556
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 5: of every season. But when you have those two pieces

557
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 5: in place, Read and Mahomes.

558
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Speaker 6: I think everything is a little tinkering.

559
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Speaker 5: I don't think anything's a true rebuild when you have

560
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Speaker 5: those two guys at the top.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Philip Rivers is going to play this week,

562
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Speaker 1: and he's one of my favorite people that's ever played

563
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Speaker 1: in the league. He is so genuine and authentic and funny.

564
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Speaker 1: In fact, he was the first quarterback that ever told me,

565
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Speaker 1: he goes, I gotta be honest. I like the process

566
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Speaker 1: better than the game. He goes, I love the week

567
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Speaker 1: of practice. And he was a trash talker, like he's

568
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Speaker 1: the all time Southern trash talker. If I I guess

569
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Speaker 1: his high school is running the same offense, the idea

570
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Speaker 1: and by the way, he moved like a batting cage

571
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Speaker 1: when he was playing, So the idea. If I said

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Speaker 1: to you tomorrow, Ring Ring, Tom, can you play Sunday?

573
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Speaker 1: If you kind of knew the offense. Could you generate drives?

574
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Speaker 5: Yes, I certainly could. But first of all, who retires

575
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Speaker 5: and then unretires and then is ultimately and retiring man?

576
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Speaker 6: Who does that?

577
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Speaker 2: Is that?

578
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Speaker 5: Even it's ridiculous, and Philip to do that, it's good

579
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Speaker 5: for him.

580
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Speaker 6: I'm happy he's doing it.

581
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Speaker 5: I think the answer for me would be yes, I'm

582
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Speaker 5: not allowed to anymore because I'm an owner of a

583
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Speaker 5: minority owner of the Raiders, so i can'tn retire. But

584
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Speaker 5: I'm very excited to watch Philip play because if he's

585
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 5: out there, I think it's just very cool. You know,

586
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Speaker 5: he's it speaks to you know how much he loves

587
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Speaker 5: the game and really what he's able to do still.

588
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Speaker 5: And this game is about for the quarterback from the

589
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Speaker 5: neck up. And we have a saying at Michigan the

590
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 5: mental is to the physical as four is to one

591
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Speaker 5: at the quarterback position, and that doesn't really go away.

592
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Speaker 5: That's still up there. Do you have the physical ability

593
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Speaker 5: to still do it? Take the hits, make the throws,

594
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Speaker 5: the drops, you know, buy a little time in the

595
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Speaker 5: p If Philip has been practicing those things, then we're

596
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Speaker 5: all going to see it on full display in Seattle

597
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 5: on Sunday afternoon.

598
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Speaker 1: So I want to go back to Detroit Rams. It's

599
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Speaker 1: the game you have, and I think it's interesting. Earlier

600
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Speaker 1: this year, I thought Green Bay was a little broken offensively,

601
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Speaker 1: but Matt Lafleuur solved it. And I've said this for years, Tom,

602
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: I would rather have an offensive coach than a defensive coach.

603
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Speaker 1: That said, I think Demico Ryans, Vrabel, Mike McDonald are studs.

604
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Speaker 1: They're great.

605
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Speaker 6: Yea.

606
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Speaker 1: I look at Detroit and I kind of I'm not

607
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: sure week to week. They're not as good on third down,

608
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Speaker 1: They're not as good a fourth down. But I want

609
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Speaker 1: to go to a macro picture here, because not every

610
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: game for Tom Brady was great. Over the course of

611
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Speaker 1: a season, you lose a left guard and then your

612
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: slot receiver shows up pregame and can't make cuts. How

613
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Speaker 1: did you fix Because the Rams haven't been broken this year,

614
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Speaker 1: They've made changes. The Lions have felt their weeks are broken.

615
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Speaker 1: How do you solve that? What is the first thing

616
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Speaker 1: you would do? If you're like guys, the tape shows

617
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: were just not right, there's no rhythm. What do you

618
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Speaker 1: do to solve that?

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Speaker 5: So I think the most important thing and we used

620
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Speaker 5: to term a lot, certainly on broadcasting, is we'll say

621
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Speaker 5: complementary football. So when I was, for example, with the Patriots,

622
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Speaker 5: and those were twenty of the best years the NFL

623
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Speaker 5: has ever seen in terms of a standard of excellence

624
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 5: that was put out there on the field, is we

625
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 5: tried to win all three phases of the game every week.

626
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 5: It wasn't just these three parts of our team offense, defense.

627
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Speaker 5: Special teams will all operate independently, and you'd be very

628
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Speaker 5: surprised that a lot of teams see them as three

629
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Speaker 5: individual teams within the same team. But I knew we

630
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Speaker 5: were going to win special teams every week because the

631
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Speaker 5: emphasis that Bill Belichick put on special teams, not just

632
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Speaker 5: from a meeting stand point, but the types of players

633
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Speaker 5: that he brought on the team to execute our special

634
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 5: teams units like Larry Izzo, like Matt Slater, like Nate Ebner,

635
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Speaker 5: like Lonnie Paxton. We kept them as foundational pieces. So

636
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Speaker 5: there was a standard of performance from special teams. So

637
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Speaker 5: if we won special teams and we won offense, well,

638
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 5: we won two of the three phases of the game.

639
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Speaker 5: Not to mention, we usually had one of the top

640
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Speaker 5: defenses in the league. So if we had let's say

641
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 5: the best special teams unit, and we won on defense

642
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 5: and offensively we were injured, we would have to play

643
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Speaker 5: maybe a little bit less aggressively.

644
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Speaker 6: We'd punt a little bit.

645
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Speaker 5: More, we'd throw the ball a little less, we'd run

646
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 5: the ball a little more, we would do different things

647
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 5: within our offensive scheme to try to compliment the other pieces,

648
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Speaker 5: because alls we were trying to do was win that week.

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Speaker 5: And I think what a lot of people miss out

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Speaker 5: on is Okay, you're down this particular receiver. Well, what

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Speaker 5: do we do. Well, We're playing the Colts and they

652
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Speaker 5: have a tremendous offense. The first thought on all our

653
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Speaker 5: offense was, let's run the ball a lot to try

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Speaker 5: to minimize the amount of possessions.

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Speaker 6: We'll give the ball to the Colts. Let's run the ball,

656
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Speaker 6: let's control the clock.

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Speaker 5: Let's try to win time of possession thirty five minutes

658
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Speaker 5: to twenty five minutes. Because if they're not on the field,

659
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Speaker 5: they're not scoring. That's the best that's the best defense

660
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Speaker 5: we can play. And every week there was a different formula.

661
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Speaker 5: The urgency was there every week by our coaching staff,

662
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Speaker 5: and that was communicated to our players about this is

663
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Speaker 5: how we're going to win this week. That's the most

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Speaker 5: important thing, not what are we going to do two

665
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Speaker 5: weeks from now when other guys are healthier, other guys

666
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Speaker 5: are injured, or we don't know the strengths and weakness

667
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Speaker 5: of that opponent. But we're going to evaluate the opponent

668
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Speaker 5: we're going to play. We're going to see their strengths,

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Speaker 5: we're going to see their weaknesses, We're going to try

670
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Speaker 5: to attack their weaknesses, and we're going to try to

671
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Speaker 5: mitigate their strengths in all three phases of the game.

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Speaker 5: That is an urgency that is probably missing, you know,

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Speaker 5: a lot in the NFL. There's probably three or four

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Speaker 5: teams that really do that, but most of them don't

675
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Speaker 5: do that. And that's why when you get some injuries

676
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Speaker 5: to a team, to one of those lesser teams, while

677
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 5: they are screwed because if they're slot receivers down, whether

678
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Speaker 5: their tight ends down or their correct they're not going

679
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Speaker 5: to score points.

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Speaker 6: And if they don't score points, they're not going to win.

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Speaker 1: I'll wrap up with this. Last week was one of

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Speaker 1: the first weeks, maybe the week before that, I watched

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Speaker 1: football and I thought, good God, this looks miserable. It

684
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Speaker 1: looks so cold, it snowing, it's awful. I have this

685
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Speaker 1: sinking suspicion that you actually liked cruddy weather because you

686
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Speaker 1: viewed it as an advantage. Because you were a great

687
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Speaker 1: lousy weather. Your ball, your hip movement, you were a

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Speaker 1: great crappy. I've told you that Chicago game in Soldier

689
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Speaker 1: Field left sideline. I remember watching it thinking that is

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Speaker 1: a perfect cold weather throw. So when the game looks miserable,

691
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Speaker 1: were you sitting there on Wednesday thinking, Peyton's going to

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Speaker 1: be cold he plays in the Dome? I can't wait?

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Speaker 1: Did you like it?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely?

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Speaker 5: I looked at the weather more than anybody in the

696
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Speaker 5: history of the NFL. My weather app was on over

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Speaker 5: during the football season, constantly looking at the conditions we

698
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Speaker 5: were playing in, the conditions that are other teams that

699
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Speaker 5: our confidence were playing in. And because we were in

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Speaker 5: New England and we really never practiced inside, we got

701
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Speaker 5: so used to all the elements. We got used to

702
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Speaker 5: the wind. I had to really work hard to throw

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Speaker 5: a very tight spiral. I worked on my mechanics incessantly

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Speaker 5: so that I could drive the ball through the wind,

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Speaker 5: and the tighter the spiral was the more it could

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Speaker 5: penetrate the wind. So I knew I had to throw

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Speaker 5: a tight spiral. I knew I had to keep my

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Speaker 5: body warm. And how was I going to keep my

709
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Speaker 5: body warm? How many layers was I going to wear?

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Speaker 5: You know, how many did I wear? The scuba suit?

711
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Speaker 5: If it was below twenty degrees? When did I put

712
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Speaker 5: it on? You just get so good because you practice

713
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Speaker 5: in it all year round. In the springtime, we go

714
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Speaker 5: back in April, we'd have forty five degree days in

715
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Speaker 5: the rain, we'd be outside working out. So you just

716
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Speaker 5: get accustomed to that environment. And now this time of

717
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Speaker 5: year in the NFL, in the Northeast and the Midwest,

718
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Speaker 5: you know, these outdoor games, they come down to weather

719
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Speaker 5: eighty percent of the time. So you better be good

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Speaker 5: in it, and you better embrace it rather than see

721
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Speaker 5: it as a big disadvantage. And that's what we did.

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Speaker 5: We always saw as an advantage. The shittier the weather,

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Speaker 5: the better we are gonna go out there and play.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the broadcasting thing, you're having fun. Listen,

725
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Speaker 1: I told you that I said this off the air

726
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Speaker 1: to you. You asked me before your first game. It

727
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Speaker 1: said something like, listen, you're gonna be nervous. I should

728
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Speaker 1: have really said something nice. I was like, Tommy, you're

729
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Speaker 1: gonna be nervous for the first five minutes, and you're like, oh, thanks,

730
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Speaker 1: Really that really helped a lot. Calling. But like, it's

731
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Speaker 1: I think broadcasting similar to football. It's just reps. It's

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Speaker 1: like work reps. And I will just say this, are

733
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Speaker 1: you enjoying it as much as it appears you're enjoying it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I could not have imagined it the transition being any

736
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Speaker 5: more fun and enjoyable than it's been. I have the

737
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 5: greatest team in the world, the greatest partner in Kevin Burkhart,

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Speaker 5: Aaron and Tom, Dean Bland, you know, up there with

739
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Speaker 5: me in the booth, the people that work with us,

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Speaker 5: our whole crew, our director, rich and Richie, our producer,

741
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Speaker 5: our whole crew, our graphics team, everybody in the truck,

742
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Speaker 5: our cameramen. We have so much fun. It is such

743
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Speaker 5: a team environment. We give each other shit all day,

744
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 5: we laugh all day, you know, and we get to

745
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Speaker 5: cover football. And the only thing you want as a

746
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Speaker 5: broadcaster is a good game. I'm rooting for good game,

747
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Speaker 5: for good football. I want to see guys perform very well.

748
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Speaker 5: I want to see quarterbacks play well. I want to

749
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Speaker 5: see him read the defense. I want to see good blocks.

750
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Speaker 5: I want to see hard hits. I want the viewer

751
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Speaker 5: to really understand why this game is so fun to watch,

752
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 5: and then teach them a little bit along the way

753
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Speaker 5: about you know, different things that may come up. But

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Speaker 5: it's such an entertaining it's such an entertaining medium, and

755
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Speaker 5: I think I've really enjoyed it, and it's gone on.

756
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Speaker 5: You know, you continue to gain more confidence about what

757
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Speaker 5: your role is, and I just know our best is

758
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Speaker 5: yet to come.

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Speaker 1: Good saying your roll is welcome. You know, I don't,

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Speaker 1: they asked me. They I always tell management. I say,

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Speaker 1: don't bother him. He's busy. He's always welcome. But you know,

762
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Speaker 1: you're always welcome. So we just love having you on it,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate that.

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Speaker 6: Thanks Colin. Yeah, you do it such a great job.

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Speaker 6: You keep up the great work.

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Speaker 5: You away on top of everything, and it's it's amazing

767
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Speaker 5: what you do every day.

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Speaker 6: So keep up the great work yourself.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Tom, Yeah, it's thanks, Pou.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate it. You bet.

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Speaker 1: Broadcasting's fun. It is got good cruise here and I'll

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Speaker 1: watch the cold we I always said, there was always

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Speaker 1: a piece of video. It was live. I was watching.

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Speaker 1: It was on another network and it was I lived

775
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Speaker 1: on the other coast and I was watching. It was

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Speaker 1: New England. It was Brady against Peyton Manning and it

777
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Speaker 1: was like AFC Championship or something, and it was snowing

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Speaker 1: in Foxboro. Therefore, you know, I was an hour and

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Speaker 1: a half away. It was snowing at my house and

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Speaker 1: it was just one of those things. It was a

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Speaker 1: big Sandwich game, big sandwich. I'm sitting watching TV for

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Speaker 1: four hours and Jim Nance is getting ready, you know, he's,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, I got the kickoffs coming up next. And

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Speaker 1: they show a picture of Peyton Manning. It snowing and

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Speaker 1: he looks so cold, and I'm sitting with a friend.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, game's over. New England's winning the game. I said,

787
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Speaker 1: look at Manning and it just looked like he was,

788
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Speaker 1: you know, playing the dome and it was it was

789
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Speaker 1: Foxborough cold, and I'm like, that's bad body language, like

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Speaker 1: he's cold now. And the Patriots did win that game.

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Speaker 3: By the way, be sure to catch live editions of

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Speaker 3: The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern nine am Pacific on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app Let's

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Speaker 3: Blaze it Up, Fired Up.

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Speaker 4: It's Collins, Blazon Fox, Ravens and Bengales folks.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's won eight of his last nine starts. I

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Speaker 1: like the Bengals as a dog at home getting points.

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Speaker 1: They've played the fourth hardest schedule and they've gone total

799
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Speaker 1: to oh. They should have eaten Buffalo last week. They've

800
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Speaker 1: scored thirty plus points in the three straight games with Burrow.

801
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: The defense now is not great, but seven takeaways in

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Speaker 1: three games. They're playing with a lot of energy. They're

803
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Speaker 1: playing with a lot of pride and Joe Burrow folks.

804
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Speaker 1: Last year he was arguably, when healthy, the best quarterback

805
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Speaker 1: in the league. In Lamar Jackson struggling Ravens zero and

806
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Speaker 1: four against the spread in the last month, they're averaging

807
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Speaker 1: in the last month twenty points a game. I think

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Speaker 1: the Bengals at home as a dog is a sharp bet.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven twenty four Cincinnati beats the stumbling Ravens Lions

810
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Speaker 1: in rams Rams minus five and a half is to

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Speaker 1: play my favorite bet, Clinch's playoff spot with a win,

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Speaker 1: so it matters a lot for the Rams, and they've

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Speaker 1: won seven of eight games, many comfortably. They have the

814
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Speaker 1: fewest offensive mistakes in the league. They don't get penalized,

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Speaker 1: they don't get sacked, they don't give the ball away.

816
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Speaker 1: And now they're at home against the Lions team searching

817
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Speaker 1: for an offensive identity, the Lions averaging thirteen points a

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Speaker 1: game in their three road losses. This is two teams

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Speaker 1: that feel like one's totally in rhythm. One is out

820
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Speaker 1: of rhythm right now. Jared Goff is facing a thirty

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Speaker 1: eight percent pressure rate. They can't pick up first downs

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Speaker 1: on third or fourth. Matt Stafford at home this year

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Speaker 1: has been unbelievable. He's got time to throw. I think

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Speaker 1: the Rams win and the Rams cover. Final score thirty

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Speaker 1: three twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Panthers at Saints.

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Speaker 1: I like the Panthers minus two and a half is

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Speaker 1: a road favorite. They come off extra rest with an

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Speaker 1: offensive coach, and I think they're just a better team

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Speaker 1: than the Saints. They're five and one when they score

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Speaker 1: at least twenty points. This year, again they beat the Rams.

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Speaker 1: This team's got a pretty high ceiling. Most improved defense

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Speaker 1: thanks to good drafting in the NFL this year, they

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Speaker 1: were a wreck defensively last year, averaging thirty one a game. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: they gave up thirty points down to twenty two. Saints

836
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Speaker 1: are in a letdown spot. They come off a big

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Speaker 1: win feeling themselves against Tampa, but Bryce Young's last three games.

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Speaker 1: I like them. By the way, the Saints be held

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Speaker 1: under twenty points in seven of eight games. This is

840
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Speaker 1: an easy one big quarterback coach advantage right now. The

841
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Speaker 1: defense playing well. I'm gonna take the Panthers to win

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Speaker 1: and to cover thirty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Packers at Broncos.

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Speaker 1: I like green Bay minus two and a half, throwing

845
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Speaker 1: a four game winning streak. They finally got those wide

846
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Speaker 1: receivers healthy. They've been the second best offense in the league.

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Speaker 1: Have the Packers on the road. They're four to one

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Speaker 1: and one on the road. Christian Watson five touchdowns last

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Speaker 1: four games. They are really in sync offensively. The Broncos

850
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: are a bit overvalued because they've had the second easiest

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Speaker 1: scale schedule in the league. They have trailed has Denver

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00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: in twelve to thirteen games, and Denver plays close five

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Speaker 1: straight one score games. Jordan Love on the road this year.

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Speaker 1: I like him in this spot. Denver may have the

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Speaker 1: better defense, but I'm not even sure about that. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take Green Bay minus the points to win and

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Speaker 1: cover twenty eight to twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Colts said.

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Speaker 1: Seahawks take the under forty two and a half, two

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Speaker 1: run heavy teams. It will be a fast game. Seattle

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Speaker 1: big game coming up. They want to get out of

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Speaker 1: this thing healthy. They're not gonna put Darnold in harm's way.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna run the ball, and that's all the Colts

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Speaker 1: can do. With forty four year old Philip Rivers as

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Speaker 1: a likely starting quarterback. Back to back games, the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: have held people under ten points. Offensively, they have the

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Speaker 1: highest rushing versentis. The Colts offense the last three games

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Speaker 1: has disappeared, So they don't want Philip Rivers throwing that

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Speaker 1: thing thirty times. The culture gonna run it. The Seahawks

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Speaker 1: want to keep Darnold healthy for the last stretch of

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Speaker 1: the season in the playoffs. Seattle knows they're gonna win

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Speaker 1: it over under is forty two and a half. I

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Speaker 1: think the Seahawks blow them out thirty to six, but

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Speaker 1: I think Seattle wants to get out of this game.

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Speaker 1: It's been a weird wild weather week, flooding all over Seattle.

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Speaker 1: They want to get in, run the ball, stay healthy,

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Speaker 1: get ready for the big games coming up against the Rams.

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Speaker 1: So there's my blazing