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Speaker 5: All right, comments on the episodes that we did throughout

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Speaker 5: the week. Let's see we did. It looks like four okay,

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Speaker 4: feedback episode. We got four comments, the first being from Apia,

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Speaker 4: who says, I know exactly what the rapture pastor will

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Speaker 4: say tomorrow. In fact, I was able to get a

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Speaker 4: copy of his speech, and it goes like this, dear

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Speaker 4: church community, I did it. I talked to God, I prayed,

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Speaker 4: second chance, you sinners, But I'm such a good person.

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Speaker 4: I helped you anyway, and God listening to me. Rapture

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Speaker 5: I will reveal later. And now it's your turn. You

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Speaker 4: Sin Less money is the root of your sins. You

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Speaker 5: You get it.

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Speaker 8: No more.

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Speaker 4: Give me and your spare money. This way, you will

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Speaker 4: not be tempted to send anymore. I will pack the

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Speaker 4: burden aka your money from you because I'm saying, you

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Speaker 4: get a person, you can thank me later.

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Speaker 5: You are welcome. Okay, maybe that's what he said. That

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Speaker 4: Sean says, I'm really looking forward to Rapture. I should

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Speaker 4: it should help solve global warming and decrease global conflict.

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Speaker 4: That is the one thing that we didn't get to

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Speaker 4: see in the Marvel universe for the Endgame and the

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Speaker 4: Infinity War. It should have been some humans that was

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Speaker 4: rooting for it, because I think we now have enough

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Speaker 4: reason to believe that there's a lot of dummies.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and they would be like, is the key? Let

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Speaker 5: him kill half of us?

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Speaker 1: They was like, see, this is why I ain't had

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Speaker 1: no kids.

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Speaker 5: Spider Man is lying. You can't trust big ironed man, y'all. No,

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Speaker 5: reston in Star he's a billionaire. Take that, then.

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Speaker 4: Smoke half of us. That is the only solution. I

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Speaker 4: want him to smoke me. Hustle No Flow says Okay,

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Speaker 4: I've been looking for one of those peace cheat chickens

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Speaker 4: ever since you first mentioned it, and nothing just Mojo, Classic, Lemon,

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Speaker 5: Good stuff. Thanks for putting us on game. You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, it's good the rare.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for putting us on game. You don't see that

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Speaker 5: too often anymore. It's way too much. Why didn't nobody

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Speaker 5: And you wonder why don't nobody be telling y'all ask

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Speaker 5: nothing becausey'all ain't grateful. You get upset even He says,

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Speaker 5: no point in leaving America when the rest of the

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Speaker 5: world seems to be a dumpster fire as well. I'm

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Speaker 5: sure there's gotta be some I mean, it's gotta be

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Speaker 5: places doing better than us, but y'all feel you. It's

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Speaker 5: all that's certain. Things don't have borders and it's everywhere.

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Speaker 4: YouTube we got seven comments. Provocative AF says, what up

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Speaker 4: Rod and Karen appreciate the great show. You helped me

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Speaker 4: change my mind about Mike Tyson leading the Democratic Party

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Speaker 4: instead of Hakeem.

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Speaker 5: He seems like the ice cream man.

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Speaker 4: He's nice enough to lead the party milk lol. He

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Speaker 4: said the rapture pastor gonna fake his death and pull

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Speaker 4: a no call, no shell.

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Speaker 1: He that's hilarious.

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Speaker 5: Pull a no call, no shell.

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Speaker 4: Then come back like Jesus to tell the congregation the

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Speaker 4: most hot sent him to return three days later for

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Speaker 4: the Return of.

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Speaker 5: Jesus Part two.

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Speaker 4: Uh and at least your reply. And the crazy part

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Speaker 4: he said absolutely, that's crazy. That would be funny if

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Speaker 5: It's like, Oh, y'all gave up the faith.

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Speaker 4: God, let me come back anyway. Did y'all collect the

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Speaker 4: tides yesterday? I need those dark now? Just says I

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Speaker 4: have lived overseas since the early eighties. It's not for everyone.

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Speaker 4: And another good feedbackshow.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, thanks buddy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not discouraging or whatever. I'm not saying I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying I can't do it. I'm not saying it's

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's stuck in stone, but just at

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Speaker 5: this period of time, that's exactly how I feel about

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Speaker 5: the situation. And uh, yeah, the way people talk about

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Speaker 5: it sometimes they simplify it and it's not as simple

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Speaker 5: as that. Just like you've made and you've thought about

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Speaker 5: the pros and cons for those people who decided to

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Speaker 5: leave I've thought about it too, and when sometimes when

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Speaker 5: about all the different scenarios. Go yeah, bitch, I thought

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Speaker 5: all right, just like if you want to leave, you

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Speaker 5: had that option. Also, the polars, are you planning to

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Speaker 5: leave America for good? Yes? Or no? Yes?

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Speaker 4: Sixteen percent said they are planning to leave America for

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Speaker 4: good and eighty four percent said no.

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Speaker 5: So there you go. Yeah, like I said, no judgment

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Speaker 4: I told you get it all right, Let's see next

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Speaker 4: episode thirty one sixty four Saint Mackenzie Scott. Oh wait, shit,

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Speaker 4: kicking it with the homie and we got four comments

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Speaker 4: My soft voice doesn't match her face at all, nor

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I never assumed the oppression is off because one, Jail

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Speaker 4: like when he did it, I'm like, I know somebody

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Speaker 5: I just don't.

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Speaker 4: I'm not the one because I don't watch only murderers

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Speaker 4: in the building or whatever. RIGHTB just says, jail sounds

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Speaker 4: happier than on other occasions.

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Speaker 5: Well, give it a give it a day, that's what

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Speaker 5: always give.

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Speaker 1: You, twenty four hours.

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Speaker 5: Don't don't get too up, don't get too down. It's jail.

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Speaker 5: He'll be back. But yeah, you know he was.

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Speaker 4: He was also delirious from the lack of rest because

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Speaker 4: sort of the euphoria that comes before the crash, when

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Speaker 4: and everything that it needs to sleep. Samla Agney says, hey,

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Speaker 4: Rod and Karen black Widow was in fact in the

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Speaker 4: theaters in twenty twenty one. You just had the option

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Speaker 4: to pay thirty dollars on Disney Plus for something Disney

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Speaker 4: offered if you chose to stay home and watch it.

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Speaker 5: It was called Premiere Access.

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Speaker 4: It was a program for movies that were in theaters

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Speaker 5: Films like Kuela, Jungle Cruise.

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Speaker 4: Milan twenty twenty and the first one on the program,

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Speaker 4: Black Widow and I Think Riot and The Last Dragon

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Speaker 4: Provocative, AF says, what's cracking Yo. Thanks for the great show.

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Speaker 5: Retweet it because it's like because and it's always right,

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Speaker 4: And I don't think I'm helping anybody reminding every fucking body,

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Speaker 5: I couldn't every day I could remind everybody.

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Speaker 4: Here we go where the economy is getting fucked up,

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Speaker 4: our rights are being fucked up. Everything that you said

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Speaker 4: you didn't want under Biden and Kamala is actually worse

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Speaker 4: under Trump, and it's outage is less and you're not

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Speaker 5: Why don't y'all spend some time every day waking up

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Speaker 5: and banging on on these people.

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Speaker 1: That's in charge, painting about like I actually.

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Speaker 4: Don't like to a certain extent, Well, I think and

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Speaker 5: Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries.

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Speaker 4: They got they people in line, they got they people

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Speaker 4: the government is now shut down. I don't like that

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Speaker 5: You go tell the truth. That's it.

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Speaker 4: If you're gonna make every move like but they'll lie

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Speaker 4: here's what the fuck is happening. Here's why we didn't

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Speaker 4: I respect that way more than just when we went

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Speaker 5: Well what else are we supposed to do?

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Speaker 4: So I appreciate that, but yet I still say, people

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Speaker 4: There are people who are in charge that we are

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Speaker 4: spending an exorbitant amount of time on one, like people

442
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Speaker 4: showing up to you know, still protest Kamala Harris at

443
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Speaker 4: book rallies, at book sales and shit, to me, that's

444
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Speaker 4: such a waste.

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Speaker 5: Of fucking time. And now that you got what you want.

446
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Speaker 5: She ain't in power you got, so you know, you

447
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Speaker 5: get to go. You get to pretend that you were right. Yes, okay,

448
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Speaker 5: So then since you you you were right, Now, what

449
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 5: we're gonna do. What we gonna do, doll, y'all gonna

450
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 5: go run up on Trump? Right, you don't want to

451
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Speaker 5: hold any personal responsibility for that, And so you know,

452
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Speaker 5: for me, you know, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I did not. I would prefer the government not shut down.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, I would.

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Speaker 5: Also not prefer for them to slash billions of dollars

456
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Speaker 5: in medicaid and Medicare and food assistance to just wreck

457
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Speaker 5: the economy with the bullshit that they was trying to

458
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Speaker 5: fucking pass. I would rather them stand their ground and say, bitch,

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Speaker 5: y'all go vote and pass it.

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Speaker 1: Y'all pass it.

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Speaker 5: Y'alln't want to be held accountable. Y'all want to make

462
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Speaker 5: us escape goat no matter what? Well, then bitch, if

463
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Speaker 5: I vote for it, you gonna make me to escape. Go.

464
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Speaker 5: If I don't vote for you gonna make me escape go.

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Speaker 5: We're the minority, which means at this period of time,

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Speaker 5: we don't have no power.

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Speaker 1: Bitch, you go do it. I'm not. I am not

468
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Speaker 1: assisting you in this.

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Speaker 5: And so y'all don't want to bring the house back

470
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Speaker 5: and to send it back because you do you have

471
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Speaker 5: to uh sweat people in and shit like that, like

472
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Speaker 5: you don't want to do your job.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if I.

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Speaker 5: Was in their position, I would be fucking banging every day.

475
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Speaker 5: And when people ask me questions to go. If you

476
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Speaker 5: want the government open, you need to ask my Republican,

477
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Speaker 5: my Republicans constituents, and that would be my words every

478
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Speaker 5: single goddamn day. If you want this shit to pass,

479
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Speaker 5: tell them to pass.

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Speaker 4: It Back To the YouTube comments, Dark Knight just says

481
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Speaker 4: good showing guests.

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Speaker 5: Thanks.

483
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Speaker 4: Nathaniel says, wow the Haitian sensation preached the word at

484
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Speaker 4: the end, Rob with the touch push analogy and Karen

485
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Speaker 4: always brings it to thank you. Jason says, I saw

486
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Speaker 4: Jail was the guest and it brightened my whole week.

487
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Speaker 4: I think it's dope what he's doing with his new job.

488
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Speaker 4: I'm curious to see our Jail jinks factors in, Like

489
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Speaker 4: if he's out here advocating for keeping people in their homes,

490
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Speaker 4: is being a house going to become all the new

491
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Speaker 4: raged I'm hoping it doesn't affect the other people.

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Speaker 5: I'm hoping.

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Speaker 4: What I hope the jail jinks will be is stuff

494
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Speaker 4: like and I look, let's just accept that the jail

495
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Speaker 4: jinks is gonna happen. Let's accept that it's gonna happen,

496
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Speaker 4: so that it's not me wishing anything negative on jail.

497
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Speaker 4: I'm just hoping. I'm saying the best case of the

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Speaker 4: worst case. I hopefully it won't take anything as strong

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Speaker 4: as like, oh, the jail jinks means all his clients

500
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Speaker 4: are gonna not have homes. No, I think the jail

501
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Speaker 4: jinks is something like, jail has a big case, but

502
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Speaker 4: also there's auditions to be on a TV show or something,

503
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Speaker 4: or he got booked to be on another set season

504
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Speaker 4: of Billions for it, but they only can film it

505
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Speaker 4: during like the lunch break.

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Speaker 5: Or something, you know what I mean. So that's the

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Speaker 5: jail jinks.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's necessarily like his clients will all die.

509
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Speaker 5: Like that's that's too that's that's way, that's too powerful.

510
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Speaker 5: But if it can fuck him.

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Speaker 1: You know, I can see that he get them small cuts.

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Speaker 4: Man Mackenzie Sky, I was like that, I'm the Department

513
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Speaker 4: of Education. Now the Penis Graffiti Man God story was good.

514
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Speaker 4: He was out here in Arizona. The supervillain imagery is

515
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 4: all there. The visual of a dude named Penis Man

516
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 4: dramatically shaking up the spray can before releasing is just

517
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Speaker 4: too perfect.

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Speaker 5: Agreed. Let's see.

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Speaker 4: Nothing on Spotify for this episode and the poets. Have

520
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Speaker 4: you been to a movie theater this year? Ninety of

521
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Speaker 4: our audience has ten yes, I have. All Right, that's it.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to a break and we will come back.

523
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Speaker 4: And you know after these commercials, all right, we're back.

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Speaker 4: The next episode is thirty one sixty five. It's cliin

525
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Speaker 4: versus Coach. We had three comments on our website. Appia says,

526
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Speaker 4: all of the based on the left now are not really

527
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Speaker 4: leading anywhere. In my opinion. Now is not the time

528
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Speaker 4: to vote, So all the talk is just content.

529
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Speaker 5: For me.

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Speaker 4: I wonder what will those people do next time? Also

531
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Speaker 4: finding something not quite perfect about the next candidate, because

532
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Speaker 4: just being supportive doesn't create so much content. Yeah, you're right, man, Listen,

533
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Speaker 4: You're one hundred percent right that at this point is

534
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Speaker 4: just content. And I think one of the things I

535
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Speaker 4: didn't get to say and not we said so much.

536
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Speaker 4: But I really didn't get to mention during the Ezra

537
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Speaker 4: Kline Coach episode that we talked about. It's still striking

538
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Speaker 4: to me how much I know they're friends, and they

539
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 4: both discussed it in good faith, and I don't know

540
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Speaker 4: what kind of friends they are.

541
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Speaker 5: They could be industry friends. I don't know that they're.

542
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Speaker 4: They could be hanging out on the weekend friends, or

543
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Speaker 4: they could just be we're friends and colleagues in the

544
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Speaker 4: way that you know coworkers, the way that people just

545
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 4: call associates friends and industries and stuff. Anyway, all that

546
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Speaker 4: stuff to say, it did strike me as so self

547
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Speaker 4: serving of Ezra in a way where he just kind

548
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Speaker 4: of wanted his conscience cleared because he never really truly,

549
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Speaker 4: in my opinion, reckons with the critiques that Coats wrote

550
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Speaker 4: in his piece about Kurt. I don't think he does.

551
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Speaker 4: I think he spent most of that time trying to

552
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Speaker 4: question coachs and he even would say, like, let me

553
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Speaker 4: ask you this, and like it was a lot of that.

554
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Speaker 4: It was a lot of that, And I found that

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Speaker 4: to be kind of interesting because I don't think Coats

556
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Speaker 4: was there to assuage his guilty conscience. You know, I

557
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Speaker 4: think he was there to try to say, like, how

558
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Speaker 4: did you get here? And why do we see ourselves differently?

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Speaker 4: And it's just content, you know, it's I'm in some

560
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Speaker 4: ways it was like a nicer Charlie Kirk in that

561
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Speaker 4: I would I would venture to guess Ezra Klein was

562
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Speaker 4: not there to have his mind change or even to

563
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Speaker 4: truly exchange points of view. And ultimately, when you walk

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Speaker 4: away from that interview, I didn't feel like I walked

565
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Speaker 4: away from that discussion and said, Okay, Ezra Klein learned

566
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Speaker 4: something from Coats and he sees where he kind of

567
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Speaker 4: fucked up. You know, there's a point where I think

568
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 4: Coats even said, how do you feel like that you

569
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Speaker 4: like made mistakes or something like that.

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Speaker 5: I forget the exact phrasing, but Ezra doesn't really say.

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Speaker 4: He says I've made mistakes, of course, but he doesn't

572
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Speaker 4: say any of what they were or how.

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Speaker 5: I just think that's.

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Speaker 4: Very interesting, it's very illuminating, because you're right, it's kind right.

575
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Speaker 4: I did click on it, I did watch it, and

576
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Speaker 4: I don't know that anything was edified. I think most

577
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 4: people walking away walked in how they felt. So if

578
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Speaker 4: you were on the client side of politics over everything,

579
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 4: whatever it takes to get these numbers, fucked the black people,

580
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Speaker 4: to brown people, to women, whatever, like, if we can

581
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Speaker 4: find a way to get the Charlie Kirk fans over

582
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 4: here too, then then maybe we can win. I don't

583
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Speaker 4: think you listened to Tai Nazi Coast and went that

584
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Speaker 4: was the wrong way to think about that. I see

585
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 4: where Coach is coming from, and I don't even know

586
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Speaker 4: that that's a winning strategy, but I know that the

587
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Speaker 4: wrong strategy is to keep courting these people that we

588
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: know are basically against us. Okay, And if you walked

589
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Speaker 4: in thinking Coach was right like I did, I highly

590
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Speaker 4: doubt you listening to Ezra kleinin felt a compelling argument

591
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Speaker 4: and was like, oh, I see, yeah, okay, we need

592
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Speaker 4: to get we need to have more empathy for the

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Speaker 4: deplorables and bring them over. And I think the other

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Speaker 4: part that was a huge distraction from it is I

595
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Speaker 4: don't think.

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00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 5: I don't think that client never proves his argument.

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Speaker 4: Now I did bring that up during the show, and

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Speaker 4: I don't want to reiter rate on it too long,

599
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: but just I don't think he proved his argument of.

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Speaker 5: That will win an election.

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Speaker 4: And one of the reasons that I don't think he

602
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 4: proved it is partially his fault. He does not truly

603
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Speaker 4: seem to respect the work of Joe Biden and the

604
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 4: accomplishments of Joe Biden. And that's a huge hole in

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Speaker 4: his argument because Joe Biden, to me, is a lot

606
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: of the ammunition for the client side.

607
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Speaker 5: Of this debate.

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Speaker 4: But if you refuse to give that man credit, you

609
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 4: can't really use him as ammunition to be like, oh, well,

610
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Speaker 4: Joe Biden got the most votes of all time. He

611
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Speaker 4: beat Trump, and he didn't beat Trump with a super

612
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Speaker 4: leftist agenda. He beat Trump with what people perceive as

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Speaker 4: a centrist agenda. Now, I might not be true that

614
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 4: it was centrist. We talked about that a nauseum on here,

615
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Speaker 4: I think, but I think Joe Biden is such an old,

616
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Speaker 4: straight white man to people in America that the second

617
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Speaker 4: he hops on board with something, it just becomes it becomes.

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Speaker 5: Moderate to people, not normal moderate.

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Speaker 4: Meaning if he says give the student loans back, it

620
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Speaker 4: goes from radical extreme leftists to well, that's just the

621
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Speaker 4: mainstream democratic point of view. Now that's not true, but

622
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Speaker 4: that his green New deal was like that, The gun

623
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Speaker 4: legislation was like that. Like none of his stuff was

624
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 4: called radical because it's Joe Biden. Other than like super

625
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 4: hardcore conservatives calling him radical. For the most part, your

626
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: average American doesn't think of him as a radical guy.

627
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 5: And politics is very much.

628
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Speaker 4: About feelings for a lot of people, feelings that are nebulous.

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Speaker 4: You can't change them just there's no math and science

630
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Speaker 4: to just this will change everyone's feelings.

631
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Speaker 5: But anyway, so I thought it.

632
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Speaker 4: Was interesting because as I thought about it after we

633
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Speaker 4: did this episode, I was like, yeah, it was content,

634
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: It wasn't really substantial. Client will continue to feel and

635
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 4: say the things that he was saying before and after

636
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Speaker 4: the Charlie Kirk thing. Of course, nothing will be changed

637
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 4: for him, and Coach will continue to do his thing,

638
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: and I doubt anything will be changed for him because

639
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 4: it wasn't really an exchange of ideas.

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00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 5: It was just something that almost tricked us into thinking

641
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: that I one hundred percent agree in, you know, And

642
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 5: because I know people don't want to hear this now,

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Speaker 5: I said it before. I am very simplistic about a

644
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 5: lot of these things. I just want to vote, like

645
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Speaker 5: and maybe it's just me and my impatience and me

646
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 5: just wanting to get all this fucking bushit over with

647
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Speaker 5: that we're going through. I'm like, nothing nothing matters to

648
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Speaker 5: me until you say it is time to vote. Everything

649
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 5: else prior to that is a waste of my mother

650
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 5: fucking time, all the complaining, all the him and it hunt,

651
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 5: all the debates. In my mind, it does not matter.

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00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 5: The Only thing that matters to me are the results

653
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 5: of the elections, because that's when I know if you're

654
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 5: serious or you're bull shitting me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Song said, I enjoyed your take on Client's code conversation.

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00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,239
Speaker 4: I would love to hear you interview Coats man. I

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Speaker 4: love that too. I don't got his number, but I

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Speaker 4: love that too.

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Speaker 5: One time I wanted to interview him just because I mean,

660
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 5: he's I'm not saying.

661
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: He's like reclusive or anything, but you know, he don't

662
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: be on the internets no more with everybody, And I

663
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 4: don't blame him. I really think I hated the Internet

664
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 4: era of like people harassing Tanazi Coats. I hated it

665
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 4: because a lot of it was pure jealousy, envy.

666
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 5: A lot of it was people like, you know, bad

667
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 5: faith shit.

668
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 4: It was and He's a long form thoughtful person that

669
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 4: I love to read his lung. I love to read

670
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 4: his books. I love to read the long form writing.

671
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: And he was a big Canarian. The coal mine for

672
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 4: me being like, I don't think this social media shit

673
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: is gonna work, because when you take someone thoughtful like

674
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: that and reduce it to whatever nitpick you personally want

675
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: to have so you can elevate yourself, that's not good.

676
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 4: That's not good for any of us, Like if you

677
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: had some thoughtful like and it's not like every time

678
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 4: I've read Coach and heard him speak, I've been.

679
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 5: Like agreed one hundred percent. There's times where I'm like,

680
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 5: I don't know about that when my.

681
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 4: Dude, But even with that, it's the level of like

682
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: vitriol towards him the love. It showed me something because

683
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 4: I was like, if you can't take a step back

684
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 4: and be like, I see the kind of work this

685
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 4: man is trying to do, and like I remember one

686
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 4: of the big criticus was a lot of black when

687
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 4: Black Feminism TM Twitter was trying to like get on,

688
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 4: they were treating him like he was a gatekeeper when

689
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 4: he wasn't, and I thought that was really bad, not

690
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 4: and by they not obviously not all of obviously, not

691
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 4: even most, but a few people were really banging on

692
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 4: him like he was keeping people out of the game somehow,

693
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 4: regardless of is whatever real life ways he was putting

694
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 4: people on, whatever real life ways he was showing up,

695
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: regardless of who controlled those platforms. It was like, I

696
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 4: don't like that he's there and I'm not. Yep, And

697
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 4: that was a big thing for It taught me. It

698
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 4: told me how to navigate shit, like there was opportunities.

699
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know if that's for me,

700
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 4: because I don't feel like dealing with the kind of

701
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 4: person that is such a fucking transactional like.

702
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 5: I want to be on that.

703
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 4: They looking at me like I'm the problem, you know,

704
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: like all I did, I got called, I got booked,

705
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 4: I got like I didn't tell them, and but I

706
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 4: realized like, oh, this isn't really about that. It's just

707
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 4: you look into bio. They got something to sell anyway,

708
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 4: My point being, uh, yeah, I'd love the interview to dude,

709
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 4: but the irony is I want to talk to him

710
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 4: about comic books and shit too, like I think everybody

711
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 4: will probably look maybe he likes that, but I don't, like,

712
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 4: I love to talk to him about some something besides

713
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 4: just I mean, obviously that stuff would come up, but

714
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 4: I want to talk to him about more than just

715
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 4: the politics and voting and shit, because I actually remember

716
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 4: when he used to talk about comic books, and I

717
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 4: mean he wrote my favorite run a Black Panther.

718
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people are that running.

719
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 5: A lot of math said since he stopped writing it,

720
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 5: they was like, it ain't as good, it's not as deep.

721
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 4: No, no disrespect to anybody after him. I still need

722
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 4: to catch up on some of the Black Panthers, but

723
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 4: ain't nobody doing like him with the like Intergalactic Empire,

724
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 4: Wakanda and the time travel space.

725
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 5: So anyway, all that shit to say, like.

726
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: There's a bunch of people I'd love to have on

727
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 4: the show that, you know, for whatever reasons, either the

728
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 4: schedules or they you know, And it could just be

729
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: them looking at this type of show we do and

730
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 4: be like nah, or it's not big enough for whatever

731
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: right or their own personal boundaries, you know, Like I

732
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 4: totally understand people being like I'm only popping up a

733
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 4: couple times a year or here or there, and it's

734
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 4: not gonna be for you because you're not in the lane.

735
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, I would love to have him on.

736
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 8: All right.

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Speaker 4: The next comment is from Pamelo says, yes, regarding Karen's

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Speaker 4: guest spot on The Sandy Check with Chris, that's where

739
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Speaker 4: I first found you. I started with that podcast and

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Speaker 4: Character Corner, and you both guessed it on The Sandy

741
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Speaker 4: Check and never had my hoosier from Indiana Ears heard

742
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Speaker 4: such country voices. I immediately started with your podcast, became

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Speaker 4: a Premium member, and I got around one eight hundred

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Speaker 4: more back episodes nine sixty through seventeen fifty two to

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Speaker 4: go before him all caught up. Oh my god, you're

746
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Speaker 4: still doing that, and wow, oh my god, oh my god,

747
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Speaker 4: that's so you're gonna, if God willing, you're.

748
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Speaker 5: Gonna have listened to every single episode we've done. That's amazing.

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Speaker 5: Parallel Wow.

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Speaker 4: Eve says, I think a lot of these leftists are

751
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: not getting it because they don't want to. They don't

752
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: want to do the work because it's too hard, and

753
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 4: on some level they know if they do, they will

754
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 4: realize a large reason we're in this mess is because of.

755
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 5: Them, and no one wants to take responsibility of greed. Yeah,

756
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 5: not one hundred percent agree. People don't want to take responsibility. People,

757
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 5: it's easier for you to complain and do nothing that

758
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 5: it is for you to actually do the work.

759
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 4: This is the lesson that client can't take from coach.

760
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: But it's emblematic of something big because it's not just them,

761
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 4: it's kind of white people in general.

762
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 5: And when black people.

763
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 4: Talk about how just because we're in an alliance with

764
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: democratic white folks and they are better than obviously the

765
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: conservative white folks, we're always kind of emphasizing, like, but

766
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 4: it ain't.

767
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 5: Perfect, it ain't great.

768
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: Now.

769
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 5: Sometimes we deal with racism over here, even though be unintentional,

770
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 5: or it might be hush hushed, it might take a

771
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 5: different form, but we are still dealing with it, right,

772
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 5: And part of it is and it's hard, right, It's

773
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 5: hard for a person of privilege.

774
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 4: Let's take race out of it and turn it into

775
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 4: men women, Right, I have male privilege.

776
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 5: I'm a man.

777
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 4: It is hard for someone conditioned in a society to

778
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 4: believe ultimately in themselves and to think that the way

779
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: things are set up is while it might be unfair,

780
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 4: I'm not an unfair person.

781
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 5: Right.

782
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 4: Individually, it is hard for a lot of times people

783
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 4: to accept in a situation they don't know better because

784
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 4: societies told them they do know better, and they don't

785
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 4: think of themselves as participating or contributing to the patriarchy

786
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: or whatever it is that is downtrying other people. So,

787
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 4: for example, it is the WNBA, right, WNBA. I know

788
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: so many male sports figures who have never really consumed

789
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: or thought about WNBA until Kaitlin Clark was coming, right,

790
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 4: And part of it is they don't feel like compelled

791
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 4: to watch it for whatever reasons. And part of it

792
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 4: is also just they don't feel comfortable talking about it

793
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 4: because they don't really know shit, right, And that's fine.

794
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 4: All of us started a place of not knowing shit.

795
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 4: The problem is is ego right, it's my job and

796
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 4: I still don't know shit. That's not a good look.

797
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 4: I probably shouldn't even talk about it. Cool, So you

798
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 4: have to pick, You have to basically pick your poison.

799
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 4: Don't talk about it and because you don't know, and

800
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 4: then people go you don't even talk about it, Wow,

801
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 4: that's fucked up, or talk about it and you don't know,

802
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 4: and you gotta deal with the people that go in

803
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: that don't do no more than you to go that's wrong,

804
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 4: that's wrong, could have said that better. That's fucked up.

805
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 4: You didn't know this. Everybody knows that. And of course

806
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 4: the third option was no in Texas. Start watching the sport,

807
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 4: start learning about the sport, brush up on the history

808
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 4: of the sport. Bring on people that do know about

809
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 4: the sport. Play the back role. It works, It can

810
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: work perfectly. Very few people have chosen this option.

811
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 5: I don't know why not. Well, I do know why.

812
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 4: It's male privilege, right, I think it's male privilege. I

813
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 4: think it's almost a shame that because it's content. It's

814
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 4: almost a shame that you'll see more examples of. Let

815
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 4: me bring on Monica McNutt so I can shout over

816
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 4: her from steven A Smith and true like, let me

817
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 4: listen to her, let me accept I don't know.

818
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 5: And you'll watch him.

819
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: Do that with other athletes that play like football or something.

820
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 4: When the football player says something that may sound a

821
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 4: bit preposterous to steven A, but he'll even say multiple

822
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 4: times like now you.

823
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 5: Know the game, you played the game?

824
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, da da da right, But when it's women,

825
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 4: it's hard for people to be like, actually, don't know.

826
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Speaker 5: You know, when they wore those shirts at the at

827
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 5: the All.

828
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: Star Game, when they danced with Kat their commissioner Kathy Engelberg,

829
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: when they were talking about there might need to be

830
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: a work stoppage negotiations, there were so many men who

831
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 4: were like advising them and talking down to them and

832
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: I know how to get some money and shit like that.

833
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 4: And the truth of the matter is if they were

834
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 4: to push their egos out of it, and especially with

835
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 4: the fact that they don't necessarily know what is they

836
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 4: don't know those women, so don't really know anything more

837
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 4: than just like the very surface level thoughts on them.

838
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 4: And once Kaitlyn Clark stopped playing, you almost saw no

839
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 4: coverage from those men because they don't watch.

840
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 5: Those games, right, coverage almost they don't care. Disintegrated.

841
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 4: Yes, Anyway, if they would have took a step back,

842
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 4: they'd realized those women have been leading the fights that

843
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 4: they are talking about advising them on. So things like

844
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 4: getting that black lives matter on the court, they did

845
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 4: that first, say her name. They did that first.

846
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 5: When it came to getting.

847
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 4: A racist owner out of their league, who owned the team,

848
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 4: they did that without a commissioner coming in to intervene.

849
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: They didn't need an adam Silver. They were like, we

850
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: refuse to work for this racist motherfucker. Y'all gonna have

851
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 4: to do something. And they stood on that. Other teams

852
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 4: still with them, other players still with them. It wasn't

853
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 4: a one person thing. When it comes to the way

854
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 4: they're going at their commissioner now, they don't play that shit.

855
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: There's nothing to say to them in an advisory role

856
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: for real, because they seem to already have been about this.

857
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 4: They prepared for this, this unrival thing. They prepared for

858
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 4: this for years. If you don't recognize that work, or

859
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: you don't really or you're like privileged, doesn't allow you

860
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 4: to truly see them as fully formed human beings who

861
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 4: may know more than you or may not need your

862
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 4: specific help. Maybe you can just call balls and strikes

863
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: on it, right instead of being like, hey, listen, ladies,

864
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 4: let me tell you, like it could just be a.

865
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 5: A I see what y'all doing.

866
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 4: Damn respect, because you know what, if the NFL Union

867
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 4: did this shit, they be kneeling on the field. The

868
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 4: Cabernick have a job, Like if they were like, we'll

869
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 4: shut shit down on the principle of it not just

870
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 4: the fucking because we want some money, but like we'll

871
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 4: shut shit down because.

872
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 5: We don't like the way you get down.

873
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 4: You're not gonna make my black body do some shit

874
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 4: that I don't fucking agree with. I don't give a

875
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 4: fuck what the money look like, they would change shit,

876
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 4: but there's not that amount of solidarity.

877
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 5: Amoust have men?

878
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: Right so because they haven't had to.

879
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 5: My point is I mean, but black people have had to.

880
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 5: But NFL players have shut it down before, right, So,

881
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 5: like we've watched Kirk Flood, like we've watched men in

882
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 5: situations where they had to they would, they would find

883
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 5: a way, right, But now they got privileged, they got

884
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 5: some of them did get paid. Some of them have

885
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 5: found ways in the ownership and into the you know,

886
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 5: the white conservative power structure. They are no longer combined

887
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 5: of mind, even though they are still in the same plight.

888
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 5: They don't feel some of them quarterbacks don't think they're

889
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 5: in the same plight with a defensive back. You see

890
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Yes, and and and and that's why

891
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 5: I made that statement. And I didn't mean that for

892
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 5: the past. I mean right down, Oh, they're talking about

893
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 5: all of it. Yeah, right, as as of right now,

894
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 5: they don't have to do that because of the the

895
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 5: the how people get paid in the structure. But in

896
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 5: reality they are all still employees, yes, you know, and

897
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 5: so like like if they really wanted to stand ten

898
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 5: toes down, they actually could because they are the largest sport.

899
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 5: It's amazing how they the largest sport make all this

900
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 5: got them money.

901
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: But when you.

902
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 5: Look at the players Association, shit, a lot of it

903
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 5: is some of the weakest out there as far as

904
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 5: the men go.

905
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: And you're like, this don't make no sense. Y'all should

906
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: have my rights, right.

907
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 4: My point is when you say they haven't had to,

908
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 4: I just want to reiterate They've had situations in the

909
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 4: past where they put it this way. The WNBA doesn't

910
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 4: have to. They don't have to. They could be like,

911
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 4: just sign the CBA. Let's just fucking get whatever percentage

912
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 4: we can go into the next year, and let's just

913
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 4: keep playing ball. Look look at the ratings, look at

914
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 4: the fucking valuations. We don't want to stop this train, guys,

915
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 4: Let's just keep it going. They're standing on principle because

916
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 4: they are convicted.

917
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. They are like we in

918
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 5: this together other team.

919
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 4: Other players around the league are like, yeah, I'm with Fee,

920
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 4: like we play against each other.

921
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 5: I'm still with Fee.

922
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 4: Ex players, I'm with feed Right, I'm saying, like, it's

923
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 4: not just it's not a matter of even having to

924
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 4: do it as much as it's a matter of the

925
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 4: willpower to do it.

926
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 5: The men don't have a willpower, the women have a willpower.

927
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 5: I one hundred percent agree, And I in my personal opinion,

928
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 5: I think a lot of that has to do with

929
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 5: and I might be wrong, but with a lot of

930
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 5: the oppression that women have to deal with anyway, I

931
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 5: think a lot of that comes from that. Because it's

932
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 5: ridiculous that as much money as y'all making, y'all make

933
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 5: with eight nine percent of the total profits, like I'm seven,

934
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 5: I'm sorry of the total profits.

935
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: Like that don't make no sense.

936
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 4: Right, But what about the men that are black that

937
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 4: have experienced other oppression outside.

938
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 5: Of the sports too?

939
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 4: Like those to me, those men, those seventy percent of

940
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 4: NFL players, that eighty some percent or whatever it is

941
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: of NBA players, they do have some experience with oppression

942
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: that should unify And I'm wanting to point out and

943
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 4: I think it matters to point out the will.

944
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 5: Isn't there the will? I think, yeah, yep, yeah, because

945
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 5: because that's an internal thing. Yes, like they have the same,

946
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 5: if not more leveragees I'm with you, Yeah they do.

947
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 5: They have more leverage to shut shit down. Yeah, they do,

948
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 5: like shutting down a business that is even more value

949
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 5: than the w NBA. I put it artist to say,

950
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 5: skip pass it.

951
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 4: I'm sorry getting so technical. My main point is this,

952
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 4: if they saw the women as a blueprint, they'd be

953
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 4: the ones fucking the NBA in the NFL up right

954
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 4: now if they saw the women as a blueprint. But

955
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 4: I think because of our own privileges as men, we

956
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 4: don't really see women as someone to emulate. That's why

957
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: you have men like Steven A, men like mad Dog

958
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 4: who says I don't even watch the league and then

959
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 4: he starts yelling on TV. You have these guys saying

960
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: this stuff in almost a condescending manner because in their mind,

961
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 4: all they're thinking is me, big man, listen, latest, let

962
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 4: me tell you women what to do, okay, what you

963
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 4: need to be doing. And maybe they do that with

964
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 4: men too, but they can't see the optics of how

965
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: it's different. Right, and if they were, I think if

966
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 4: there were some real ones, they'd be able to sit

967
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 4: back and be like, I'm taking notes, yeah, and y'all

968
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 4: are y'all are fighting in a way that's much harder

969
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 4: than I've seen anybody else fight. I'm not here to teach,

970
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: I'm here to learn.

971
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

972
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 5: And also, in my personal opinion, like a lot of

973
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 5: men do, a lot of them are highly offended that

974
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 5: they look at them and be like, whon the fuck

975
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 5: what y'all talking about?

976
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna do whatever we're gonna.

977
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 5: Do, y'all can YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, All y'all want

978
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 5: to about how y'all think we wrong and how you

979
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 5: know the man's speech and then tell us these things.

980
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 5: But these are not These are not stupid women. They're

981
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 5: very smart and intelligent, and I think sometimes some of

982
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 5: them people get very offended when they do things quote

983
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 5: unquote the opposite or either they don't go the way

984
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 5: that they think this day should be. They were like

985
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 5: why Basically, sometimes I hear some of them say, why

986
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 5: ain't y'all money hunker? Why ain't y'all out here trying

987
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 5: to get your what's wrong with you?

988
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: You know?

989
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 5: A type of thing, and you don't think that they're

990
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 5: not offended in or upset by the words that are

991
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 5: coming out of your mouth. Yeah, but the thing is

992
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 5: they are fighting for the money. This is how they fight.

993
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: Agreed.

994
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 4: And I say all that to say because that wasn't

995
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 4: the point of my tent. I went on that tended

996
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 4: to say, I imagine that for a lot of those

997
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 4: women in the WNBA, A lot of women that are

998
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: fans of the WNBA, A lot of people that are

999
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: fans of w may listen to our podcasts, that listen

1000
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: to these other shows. I'm sure there's a level of

1001
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 4: like rolling your eyes, right, Like when you hear somebody

1002
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 4: because you're listening to their shows, you're watching their TV shows.

1003
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: You're doing it because you're like, whatever you're getting, you

1004
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 4: want these people to be on point and give perspectives

1005
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 4: that you either agree with or that enlighten you.

1006
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 5: Right.

1007
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 4: And when you see that they're not challenging themselves at

1008
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 4: choosing to be low information, when you see they're relying

1009
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 4: on these stereotypes and caricatures, when you see they're still

1010
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 4: very gendered in their analysis, right, party, you starts to go, Man,

1011
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna stop listening. I don't hate this guy,

1012
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 4: but on this area, I don't know that they're on point,

1013
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 4: and their ego seems to be bigger than just being

1014
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 4: on point, like their ego is more important and being like,

1015
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 4: well shit, I don't know if laid it out, I

1016
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 4: don't really got nothing to say.

1017
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 5: She just did a good job and we'll see how

1018
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 5: it works out. We'll check back in. Yeah, and you

1019
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 5: know what, a lot of that don't make content, and

1020
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 5: like we were talking about before, like it's not sexy.

1021
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 5: But but I'm sure they do it with other topics too.

1022
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 4: But my point being being in a party with even

1023
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 4: liberal white folks, as a black person, we always feeling

1024
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 4: like that. I use gender to make the analogy, but

1025
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 4: racially it is still very similar to where I would

1026
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 4: not say Ezra Klein is my enemy, even if he

1027
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 4: himself seems to have let his ego turn into anyone

1028
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 4: who is saying they don't agree with me is drawing

1029
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 4: a line and kicking me out of the party. Or

1030
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 4: I have literal white supremacists on my podcast and people

1031
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 4: say they don't like that, and then they go, I'm

1032
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 4: a Nazi or I'm platform and Nazis, Well, my ego

1033
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 4: is more important than their thoughts on it because they

1034
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: can't possibly be right.

1035
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 5: I'm the only one who can be right here.

1036
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 4: I am doing what I'm morally convicted to do, and

1037
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 4: they they just don't get it because they you know,

1038
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 4: And so a lot of those people that are saying that,

1039
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 4: a lot of times it's black folks right that are like, Ezra,

1040
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 4: I don't think the way you're moving is good.

1041
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 5: I don't think it's helpful. I think you might be mistaken.

1042
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 4: His ego is more about why why am I being

1043
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 4: kicked out the party? Not what do I what happens

1044
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 4: to my house when I invite a person that hates

1045
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 4: someone else into the house and go we all having

1046
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 4: a party together?

1047
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1048
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 5: And also sometimes and this goes back to white supremacy

1049
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 5: and the things that black people have to deal with,

1050
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 5: it's very insulting because it's one of the things where

1051
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 5: they're gonna be like it's almost like, well, I ain't

1052
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 5: I'm doing this for you people, and you're like, well, bitch,

1053
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 5: this is not what I ask for. I'm telling you,

1054
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 5: this is not what I'm demanding or asking for. And

1055
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 5: like you said, that ego part in them is going,

1056
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 5: but I'm doing this for you. I'm standing up you know, no,

1057
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 5: you're not. You stand up for yourself. At this period

1058
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 5: of time. There is a difference between stand up for

1059
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 5: calls and standing up for yourself. Yes, they can intertwine

1060
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 5: at times, please don't get me wrong, but there is

1061
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 5: a difference. And sometimes when people point out that the difference,

1062
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes people get offended by it.

1063
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 4: I think the lesson that I would have loved to

1064
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 4: see as a client take from that was not one

1065
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 4: of I'm right or I'm wrong, or I defeated Coats

1066
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 4: with my superior logic, or he defeated me. I think

1067
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 4: the lesson that if he would have truly had empathy

1068
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 4: for Coats and all the people Coats represents in that room,

1069
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 4: there's a lesson of empathy that is, Oh, you never

1070
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 4: get to have the perfect candidate.

1071
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, you never have had that. You don't have

1072
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 5: the perfect ally, you don't have the perfect friend in me,

1073
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 5: you don't like you're always dissatisfied, and yet you've never

1074
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 5: given up.

1075
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: Always dissatisfied.

1076
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 4: That's the that's the lesson that was not relayed there

1077
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 4: or communicator. I mean it was communicated but not received.

1078
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 4: And I think that's why it's so disheartened. That's why

1079
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 4: you're gonna see so many people talk about it that

1080
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 4: are black, that are like, yeah, as it sounds like this, this,

1081
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 4: and this, because what they really felt was like, you

1082
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: have more empathy for the idea that someone doesn't like

1083
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk and conservative Republicans. You have more empathy for

1084
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 4: people that said lock her up, that said Joe and

1085
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 4: the whole gotta go. You have more empathy for people

1086
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 4: that said that, that retweet the racist, racist caricature of.

1087
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 5: Her Keem Jefferys in a sombrero.

1088
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 4: You have more empathy for what can we do to

1089
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 4: be nice to them to get them in the house,

1090
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 4: unless for me, who is telling you, I will not

1091
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 4: be in a house with these motherfuckers burning it, they

1092
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 4: not coming in. And also if they come in, I like,

1093
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 4: I have to look at you sideways for inviting them in.

1094
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 4: I sure you know this is this is sinners and

1095
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 4: you and you letting the vampires in, And you want

1096
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 4: me to look at you like we're in the same

1097
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 4: fight together.

1098
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: We're not, you know, yeah, we're not.

1099
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 5: And and and it's one of those things where it's

1100
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 5: like you're looking like, why do you have more empathy

1101
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 5: for the people outside of the house on to burn

1102
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 5: the house than the people that I'm in here with you.

1103
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 5: We're trying to keep the house up and clean and

1104
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 5: fixing and repairing. That's what I'm saying.

1105
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: Like you said, you're defeating the.

1106
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 4: He's like, I want to have the biggest house party ever,

1107
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: and we're like, we don't want to have the house

1108
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 4: party with the people with the torches outside.

1109
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: We don't want them at the party.

1110
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 4: And and the thing that he'll never be able to

1111
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 4: understand is if you let the people with the torches

1112
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 4: inside the house, the house will burn down.

1113
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: Yes, it will.

1114
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 4: He don't understand it because in his mind he's like, no,

1115
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 4: we'll get them over here and then it won't be

1116
00:54:58,640 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 4: as bad.

1117
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 5: It's like, no, it'll be worse.

1118
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 4: Now our house is on fire from the inside in

1119
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 4: a way that it wasn't before.

1120
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 5: Like right, like, maybe we could have put out.

1121
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 4: A few of these fires, Maybe we could have figured

1122
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 4: something out. Maybe you wait until the people on the

1123
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 4: outside get exhausted and run out of resources and.

1124
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: Leave until they come back next time.

1125
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 4: Right now, it's just everything burning, because now we've let

1126
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 4: the fire inside.

1127
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 5: All right, all right, let's see the YouTube comments. How

1128
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 5: mean we got none? All right? Anime Prince says.

1129
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 4: In Barack Obama's twenty twelve reelection campaign, all his margins

1130
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 4: in every state he won in two thousand and eight

1131
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 4: was cut in half. His white support dropped from forty

1132
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 4: four to thirty nine percent. He became the first president

1133
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 4: in modern history to win less votes than his initial election. Afterwards,

1134
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 4: Obama was very open about one of his successive to

1135
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 4: be Hillary Clinton, a white woman, and I think most

1136
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 4: of us remember how she was treated. I say all

1137
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 4: that because I agree with coachs there's a cultural backlash

1138
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 4: happening that Ega Klein doesn't want to admit that maybe

1139
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 4: not all of us, all of it is cultural, but

1140
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 4: the vast majority of it is. I give you the

1141
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 4: farmers who voted for Trump three times despite the fact

1142
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 4: Peo were in their farms the first time with terrors.

1143
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1144
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 4: I think it's interesting too, because like if, like I said,

1145
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 4: it's a WNBA. If you can't really accept that maybe

1146
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 4: you're in the learning position and not the teaching position,

1147
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 4: you can't really say that you're sitting across from an

1148
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 4: equal and in some cases sitting across from fromody to

1149
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 4: actually know better than you.

1150
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 5: That's how it felt.

1151
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 4: It felt like Clin would have to accept that maybe

1152
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 4: Coach knows better than me, and he was not willing

1153
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 4: to accept that. So there was really no point in

1154
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 4: the discussion, because what's the point of having a discussion

1155
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 4: if you want to accept like, maybe they know and

1156
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 4: I don't. Let's see lhh in my Nie says high

1157
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 4: Rod and Karen. I really appreciated this show so much.

1158
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 4: Thank you for saying just saying what it is. The

1159
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 4: foundation of this place is a criminal inn applies enterprise.

1160
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 4: I watched client Coach talk Climb wants to win at

1161
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 4: all costs, like you observe. However, all money is not

1162
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: good money. He just does not want to get that idea.

1163
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 4: Coach had the patience I do not currently possess. I

1164
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 4: wanted Coach to give a deep Negro side and say, really, Ninja,

1165
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 4: continue success.

1166
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 5: To you, always expect it. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah.

1167
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 4: Now Coach did his thing, man, and that's the kind

1168
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 4: of thing where like I could do some of what

1169
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 4: Coach did in that room. I think all of us

1170
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 4: could sit across from people and have that discussion. But

1171
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 4: I truly don't know how many of us think it's

1172
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 4: worthwhile at this point.

1173
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: It's not You're not wasting my time like I think.

1174
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 4: It's almost like some of us are in a position

1175
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 4: of just huddling down and waiting this out. You know,

1176
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 4: this whole country is a cracker barrel right now, where

1177
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 4: it really ain't got nothing to do with us, but

1178
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 4: we got to pay the cost for other people letting

1179
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,959
Speaker 4: their guard down. Yeah, So now just huddled up trying

1180
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 4: to survive, and I don't know that a conversationation is

1181
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 4: gonna help me anymore than just shutting the fuck up

1182
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 4: and letting you eventually hopefully come to the conclusion on

1183
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 4: your own as more and more shit arose around you

1184
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 4: and you realize, you know what, Kama wouldn't have been

1185
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 4: that bad, right, Like, that's that's how every every vote

1186
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 4: black people have ever placed in this country has been.

1187
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 5: You know what, they wouldn't be that bad. But Joe

1188
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 5: Biden election was one hundred percent Black people in the

1189
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 5: South being like, it won't be that bad, that's it.

1190
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 5: It wasn't like, God, damn, I love me some Joe

1191
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 5: Biden with my Joe Biden shirt.

1192
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: For most people he was not their number one candidate.

1193
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was a we get it, y'all won't

1194
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 4: take Hillary. Joe Biden won't be that bad, right, My

1195
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 4: mom says, excellent analysis a client coach conversation, the cognitive

1196
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 4: dissonance that client and people of his mindset are disappointed

1197
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 4: and dangerous.

1198
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 5: To black people.

1199
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 4: Are other people of color agreed? And a bunch of

1200
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 4: other groups too in the party.

1201
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 5: CPJ says.

1202
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 4: Morgan says, absolutely regarding your take on client's clin coach's

1203
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 4: interview as the things coats and black people generally are

1204
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 4: being too fatalistic. When being fatalistic is the way Black

1205
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 4: people have always had to navigate America because we have

1206
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 4: to see reality for what it is so we can

1207
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 4: fight back clearly to make strides in life better for us. Yeah,

1208
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 4: and also like realism and fatalism are different.

1209
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 5: Once again, even the framing of the argument, it felt

1210
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 5: like I gotcha. That was like the out of the

1211
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 5: fucking first out of the chamber was like, yeah, I

1212
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 5: would say you're too fatalistic. I'm like, what the fuck?

1213
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 5: Like you definitely thought about that. I thought that word

1214
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,479
Speaker 5: would be like, oh damn, got me there.

1215
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 4: I'm not saying you don't fight because you're gonna lose.

1216
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 4: I'm saying you fight sometimes.

1217
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 5: You still lose.

1218
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: Agree.

1219
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 4: Client thinks he can live in a world where there's

1220
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 4: only winning, there's only adding, there's only progress, And I

1221
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 4: more worry about people like that giving up.

1222
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm not gonna give up.

1223
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 4: You ain't never heard of me and Karen, no matter

1224
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 4: what the fuck has happened, we ain't never been up

1225
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 4: in here, like, well, that's it. Uh, guys, we're not

1226
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 4: voting anymore. We won't be covering politics on this show.

1227
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 4: Don't worry about that. Like, none of us have given up.

1228
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 5: Because if we were giving up because the odds were daunting,

1229
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 5: my ancestors would have gave up a long time ago. Right,

1230
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 5: we wouldn't exist. Right. And it's also, you know, one

1231
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 5: of those things where you know, people like that are

1232
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 5: scary because it's like the second their feelings get hurt,

1233
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 5: the second you talk against their ego, the second things

1234
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 5: don't go their way, the second they gotta push a

1235
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 5: little bit harder, the second they gotta hear shit they

1236
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 5: don't want to hear. The second they got they got

1237
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 5: to sacrifice, they got to give up shit. The second

1238
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 5: they not in charge, the second they can't tell other

1239
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 5: people what to do, they kind of wither and and

1240
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 5: and fold and run away and blame everybody else and

1241
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 5: won't take personal responsibility for these things. Because at some

1242
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 5: period of time, you got to have an internal talk

1243
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 5: with your because, like for me, right now, I'm not

1244
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 5: gonna lie.

1245
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm very.

1246
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 5: Angry, sad, disappointed. I'm still heard about Joe Biden, I'm

1247
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 5: still heard about Kamona.

1248
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: I am hurt. But you know what I'm gonna do.

1249
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: Fight through my tears that I still.

1250
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 5: Do cry sometimes, fight through that bullshit and say I

1251
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 5: don't give a damn about how I feel. What matter

1252
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 5: are the end results, and I am not going to

1253
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 5: give up regardless of what I see right now in

1254
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 5: front of me. I have to have faith and I

1255
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 5: have to have hope that eventually these people will come

1256
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 5: to their senses. I hope we don't have to lose everything.

1257
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 5: I know we're gonna have to lose something because right

1258
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 5: now a lot of people are in denial about the

1259
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 5: shit that they see going around them. They would well

1260
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 5: to waste time about shit that don't matter instead of

1261
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 5: talking about the shit that does matter and holding people

1262
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 5: personally responsible that actually have power. Because and my thing

1263
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 5: is like, y'all everybody act like they're the only ones mad.

1264
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: No, bitch, I'm mad too.

1265
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 5: But what I'm also doing, I'm I'm doing what I

1266
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 5: can And what I can do is take my black

1267
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 5: ass to the poll and vote. What I can do

1268
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 5: is talk to my family members, be like, niggas, get

1269
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 5: it together. That's what I can do. I'm not gonna

1270
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 5: sit around and tell people not to vote. I'm not

1271
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 5: gonna sit around and tell you that your feelers are

1272
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 5: not valid.

1273
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: They are valid.

1274
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 5: But once you get through this big ball of emotions, bitch,

1275
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to do something.

1276
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: You can't sit there and do nothing. Yeah.

1277
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 4: I think the other not that i'm the word thinking,

1278
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 4: I'm talking about it again. I think the other thing

1279
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 4: that black people picked on picked up on with Ezra Klein,

1280
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 4: and I think I know I picked up on it

1281
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 4: in politics in general. But it's why there's only so

1282
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 4: far you can go with white liberals TM, not individually,

1283
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 4: but in mass Bernie Sanders is a big turn off

1284
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 4: because of this too. It's their worldview is that white

1285
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 4: people can't just be wrong that's what it is. That's

1286
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 4: what it is, simply that because and I say that

1287
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 4: because when I am like oh, Obama lost a certain

1288
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 4: amount of white support and it never came back after

1289
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 4: his first term. I don't listen to the Megan Kelly's

1290
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 4: of the world that say he was the most divisive

1291
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 4: president ever. I think Megan Kelly's are racist, right, And

1292
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 4: I think many of those white folks who decided they

1293
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 4: were never gonna support Barack Obama again, I think they're racist.

1294
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 4: I do too, And like where I would depart from

1295
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 4: Coats is where he says he doesn't see people as deplorables.

1296
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 5: Or whatever I do, I do too. Individually.

1297
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 4: I absolutely think there are some people that are just

1298
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 4: beyond redemption.

1299
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 5: I don't. I'm not beholding to believe in them in

1300
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 5: that way.

1301
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 4: And so I think one of the things that holds

1302
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Speaker 4: us back is that we will not accept some people

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01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 4: are not swayed by a political argument, but they are

1304
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 4: actually just going to do what they do and it's

1305
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 4: not about how you play the game. Meaning well, if

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01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 4: Hillary would have said this, they wouldn't have been sexist,

1307
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 4: and then they and or that the set they would

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01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 4: have overcame their sexism to vote for her anyway.

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Speaker 5: They can't.

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Speaker 4: They really truly cannot process because you know, many of

1311
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 4: these are the family members, their colleagues, the guys they

1312
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 4: argue with.

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Speaker 1: And because I have a separation, I'm like, I don't care.

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Speaker 4: It's and it's not their identity. So being a white

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Speaker 4: man who disagrees with another white man in front of us,

1316
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Speaker 4: like Gavin Newsom did with Charlie Kirk, or like Ezra

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01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 4: Klein did with Jordan Peterson, they see it only as

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01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 4: a value add They don't see it as I do,

1319
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 4: and many other people see it as a negative of like,

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Speaker 4: oh wow, you're not really understanding this this moment. You're

1321
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 4: calling it fatalism. But I think your internal optimism that

1322
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 4: Jordan Peterson is not using you to promote his own

1323
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 4: brand and gonna go right back to his people and

1324
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 4: be racist and build his build his legacy and build

1325
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 4: his his reach. You're you're the frog helping the score

1326
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 4: of me across the river. And then you think I'm

1327
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 4: an asshole for sitting on the on the side of

1328
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 4: the river on the bank, going that scorpion's gonna stab

1329
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 4: you and it's not gonna work, And you're like.

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Speaker 5: Wow, what a fatalistic view. That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, let's see back to these comments. This

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01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 4: is my thought, Marvelette says, this is my thought on

1333
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 4: the Mom Donnie election in New York. I think this

1334
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 4: is the Bernie Sanders test of if it's a progress

1335
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 4: if the progressive movement without black support can work. Mom

1336
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 4: Donnie was able to win with less of the black votes.

1337
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,439
Speaker 4: This would be ideal for the white liberals who want

1338
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 4: to suppress black issues in the messaging. They want a

1339
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 4: solid voting base on white, white voters like the Republicans.

1340
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 5: I hear everything you're saying, but when I.

1341
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 4: Tell you, I could not care less right now because

1342
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 4: I don't live there, and the voters need to decide,

1343
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 4: and I don't extrapulate anything extra out of New York

1344
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 4: City because I think New York City is like looking

1345
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 4: at Gotham and trying to extrapulate something into the rest

1346
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 4: of the DC universe, like that shit seen to operate

1347
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 4: on his own fucking thing, and I don't really understand.

1348
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: It, will never know what you're gonna get.

1349
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 5: And I hope it works out for the people that

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01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 5: live there, cause they're the one that's gonna be impacted

1351
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 5: by me sitting my black ass and shot of North

1352
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 5: Carolina when I have no impact about the mayor of

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01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 5: New York City. Anyway, We'll see in a month what happens.

1354
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 5: I like I have. I don't even like spending time

1355
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 5: talking about that election. It's really up to them, And

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01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 5: I don't mean it. I mean it in the way that,

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01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 5: like I said.

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01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 4: How people that don't follow the WNBA maybe just sit

1359
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 4: it out, you know, so, like it's silence not an option.

1360
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 5: Silence is gonna be my option.

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01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 4: I don't have nothing against that man, and I really

1362
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 4: don't want to get into the shit show the content

1363
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 4: factory that that has become, where it's just Cramo putting

1364
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 4: out AI videos and fucking mom Donnie walking through the

1365
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 4: street and Eric Adams bench pressing. It feels like a

1366
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 4: Simpsons episode. It's crazy, and it's so designed for Internet

1367
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 4: consumption that it's It does something to my brain that

1368
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 4: makes me feel sad. It doesn't make me feel good. Agreed,

1369
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 4: But good luck to everyone working that out over there.

1370
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 4: Donal TiO says, ry you eloquently summed up the whole.

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01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 4: Ezra Klein, white boy state of mind. I wanted to

1372
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 4: listen to the episode, but I couldn't stomach someone willing

1373
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 4: to disregard my humanity for votes. Yeah, that's fine, you know,

1374
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 4: I think that's what's interesting is uh, people will come

1375
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 4: down on black folks, women, whoever, people that don't want

1376
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 4: to listen to that conversation, But like, how dare you

1377
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 4: not feel like.

1378
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 5: Listening to that shit?

1379
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 4: And the whole time that's a conversation about the people

1380
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 4: that won't listen to Ezra Kline or Kna House cos

1381
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 4: whole conversation. Those are people that are not coming over

1382
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 4: to hear that point of view. You know, where are

1383
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 4: these stories? Where is this support? Where is this show

1384
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 4: me the evidence that you are swaying people? Where's all

1385
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 4: the people from the Jordan Peterson episode. There's like I

1386
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 4: was fucking racist and supporting him, but then I heard

1387
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 4: him on your show, Ezra, and now I'm not racist

1388
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 4: and I'm supporting you.

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Speaker 5: It's a fucking fantasy. It's a fantasy. I'm resolute after

1390
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 5: that election because I'm like, I can't imagine a more

1391
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 5: obvious set of circumstances that we are in a fight

1392
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 5: and these are the people on this side and you

1393
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 5: just gotta fight them. It ain't gonna be no negotiation.

1394
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 5: It's talking times for over. Ain't no more talking. I'm

1395
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 5: not talking, I'm not discussing. It's one of them things.

1396
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 5: But you got to be on site, bitch.

1397
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 4: The grunch of his heart is not growing three sizes

1398
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 4: at the end of this chapter. And if we and that,

1399
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 4: that is the fatalism to me of this belief and

1400
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 4: this hope that it is on the horizon that all

1401
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 4: these minds are gonna be change and they'll realize that

1402
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 4: they are just wrong for this. No, we can't keep

1403
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 4: holding out waiting for that. We got to figure out

1404
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 4: a way to save ourselves. Someone else put Ezra Klein

1405
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 4: in the end of Phony White livel Rough critique of

1406
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 4: Cono Coats Climb debate.

1407
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 5: And it's just a link to somebody's YouTube.

1408
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 4: So I don't know if it's just them trying to

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01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 4: promote someone's YouTube on.

1410
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: Our thing or something that they said, yes.

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01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe they're trying to get like someone else to

1412
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 4: like go listen to someone else's YouTube. Anyway, I'm not

1413
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 4: clicking it because it seems like it's a long ass.

1414
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 4: I mean, I clicked it, but I'm not playing it

1415
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 4: right now because it's yes, eighteen minutes.

1416
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 5: What am I gonna do play eighteen minutes? So I

1417
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 5: guess that's just for people on YouTube. Dark now just

1418
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 5: says food for thought, thanks, and then the uh.

1419
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 4: On Spotify we got two comments. S love, says Karen.

1420
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 4: I swear your description of yourself as a talkative, gabby

1421
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 4: extrovert matches me as a person exactly. A story about

1422
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 4: you and ride at breakfast and you had to get

1423
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:57,879
Speaker 4: out a bunch of words.

1424
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 5: It's me, it's me, Shady Dan, says Karen. I hear you.

1425
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 4: I'm tired of fighting. I've been marching, protesting, and voting

1426
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 4: since Rodney King. I have a queer black daughter. When

1427
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 4: you're threatened, you can fight.

1428
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 5: Flee, or freeze.

1429
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 4: Most people I know are in the freeze mode waiting

1430
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 4: for black women to fight. Well, for the first time,

1431
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 4: I'm going to flee. As I typed this, I'm in

1432
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 4: an airport headed to Scope countries in Europe with my husband.

1433
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,839
Speaker 4: I'm looking at this as this as another black migration.

1434
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 4: Instead of leaving the South, we're leaving the US.

1435
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 5: That's shady Dan, and I understand why people you know

1436
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 5: feel that way and like I said, it's gonna be interesting.

1437
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 5: All the all them emails, all them please, all them

1438
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 5: We raising money and shit like that, Like you know,

1439
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 5: black women, you know, depending on how you're raising, how

1440
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 5: old you are, religion and shit like that. We've been

1441
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 5: talked to give money, like giving money. It's what we

1442
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 5: motherfucking do sometimes when we ain't got we a give

1443
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 5: And so it's gonna be interesting when you know the

1444
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 5: money's not there, the phone calls out there, you're not

1445
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 5: getting response, emails back, you knowing shit like that, Like

1446
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 5: you know, for a lot of people, Uh, Kamala Lousa

1447
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 5: was just lapping the face.

1448
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 4: What are they gonna do because they ain't really been

1449
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 4: quantifying it yet. It's not really organized as not an

1450
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 4: election year. But I am very concerned what happens when

1451
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 4: all these numbers come back and you're starting to see

1452
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 4: an erosion and support from black women. Nobody's fucking talked

1453
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 4: about it yet because they haven't even considered it yet.

1454
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 5: Right, they just considered we're just gonna all show the

1455
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 5: fuck back up, and we're not. I don't have the

1456
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 5: and I have only anecdotal evidence.

1457
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 4: Somebody that collects numbers will know better than us, because

1458
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 4: it's gonna show up if it's if it's gonna.

1459
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 5: Be a problem.

1460
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 4: And the reason I'm saying that is not because there's

1461
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 4: two things here, the first being I don't look at

1462
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 4: black women as like.

1463
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 5: These superhero heroes who.

1464
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 4: Have no humanity and they just get up and fight

1465
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 4: like Superman every day and they don't give a fuck.

1466
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 5: You can beat them down, they'll always be back.

1467
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 4: And I know there are some people that actually revel

1468
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 4: in that idea of like the super black woman. I

1469
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 4: think when you put super on anybody, you take away

1470
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 4: that human Yes, you do, because you make it like

1471
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 4: the bullet stots don't hurt them too.

1472
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: Right, Come on, now, we don't feel the impact.

1473
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 5: Black women have been fighting for their own safety, and

1474
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 5: then we have turned it into they fighting for all

1475
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 5: of us. What they're fighting for helps all of us,

1476
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 5: but they are fighting for themselves too.

1477
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 4: This is not They're not dumb. They don't just wake

1478
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 4: up like, let me take care of the world. They

1479
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 4: wake up and they go, shit, I'm on the front

1480
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 4: row of the world being fucked up. How do I

1481
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 4: stop this? Stem this tide? And what we told them

1482
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 4: last election was not you not you take all that stuff,

1483
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 4: but we won't take we don't want the black woman

1484
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 4: rapping on it. And so that's the first part. The

1485
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 4: second part is this, And this is why I say

1486
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 4: I bring it up now, and there's time to be

1487
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:15,440
Speaker 4: consulting and trying to like humanize and find a motivation

1488
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 4: to shore up that base, to make sure that black

1489
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 4: women do want to show up, that people aren't disillusioned.

1490
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 5: What are we spending that time doing.

1491
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 4: Debating how we get the Charlie Kirks of the world

1492
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 4: into the Democratic Party.

1493
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: And think they're gonna be okay with it.

1494
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 4: I just I don't know how you're not a bit

1495
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 4: concerned that next year, the the off cycle election year,

1496
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 4: that everyone's gonna want.

1497
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 5: A blue wave.

1498
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,480
Speaker 4: I don't know how you're not concerned about the potential

1499
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,520
Speaker 4: of a lack of organization, the potential lack of volunteers,

1500
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 4: the potential of a lack of.

1501
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:59,759
Speaker 5: Just brain and will power, you know, the people.

1502
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 4: Because let's say, like the shady Dan said she's thinking

1503
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 4: of leaving the country. There's a lot of people that

1504
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 4: are going to stand the country, but they're leaving the country.

1505
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 5: You understand, Yes, they are that are like fuck this, Yeah,

1506
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 5: and you bought up a good thing for a lot

1507
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 5: of black women. Depending on your age and how politically

1508
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 5: engaged you are, a lot of these women head organizations,

1509
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 5: the president, vice president for you know, CEO of a

1510
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 5: lot of these organizations. A lot of these women have

1511
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 5: a lot of knowledge and wisdom and untruth be told,

1512
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 5: a lot of these white people.

1513
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: Run a lot of times.

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01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 5: They come to these black organizations to do the work

1515
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 5: and going to communities that they don't want to go into.

1516
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 4: A good friend told me after the election, we're not

1517
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 4: even at the election, but when they were looking to see,

1518
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 4: like who's going to replace body on the ticket, and

1519
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 4: they were saying, well, it shouldn't be Kamala whatever, and

1520
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 4: I was like, it's going to be Kamala. It can

1521
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 4: only be Kamala. Honestly, every other discussion is essentially stupid.

1522
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 4: And it was Kamala, and it was her. She was

1523
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 4: really choice and every and it's like and I was like,

1524
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 4: because what do you do if you go to the

1525
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 4: base of the black of the party, black women and

1526
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 4: go y'all the most dependable voters. But we're going with

1527
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 4: Gavin Newsome, with skipping over Kamla Harris I said.

1528
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 5: Uh what happens? And he was like essentially where else

1529
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 5: they gonna go? And I was like, m y'all don't

1530
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 5: get it yet. You know a lot of people think

1531
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 5: like that home not voting. Y'all don't get it yet,

1532
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 5: You're going to lose.

1533
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 4: You think everybody else are the only people that have

1534
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 4: the option to be like.

1535
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 5: Fuck it right this you don't want. I don't know

1536
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 5: what you're gonna do in a country where a lot

1537
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 5: of the base of the party has said fuck it

1538
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 5: because you spent nothing, but the you spent nothing. You

1539
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 5: spent every single second of this election loss talking about

1540
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 5: how you're gonna get some people that absolute abhor the

1541
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 5: base of the party and you to come into the tent.

1542
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 5: I like anyway, strategy wise, I don't know it to work.

1543
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 4: And I don't want to put this on Democrats because

1544
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 4: like the conversations are being had in podcasts and talk

1545
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 4: show like, I'm not watching a lot of Democrats make

1546
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 4: this calculus.

1547
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 5: So maybe the party's not gonna do it.

1548
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 4: I don't know, but some are. Gavin Newsom definitely is

1549
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 4: entertaining it. Some of the comments after the loss and

1550
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 4: how you know, even uh Tim Walls like some of

1551
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 4: those comments were like, very m I don't know that

1552
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 4: you're walking away with this without the assumption that you

1553
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 4: don't have to show up the base. You just think, oh,

1554
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 4: now we got to get all these people outside to

1555
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 4: come in and uh yeah, like I said, we'll see.

1556
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 4: I'm not predicting it yet. I just noticed not enough

1557
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 4: conversation or times seems to have been spent about the

1558
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 4: idea or the possibility that we may see exodus of

1559
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 4: people who just go I don't give a fuck anymore.

1560
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 4: I'm not and whether they vote or not. I'm not

1561
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 4: saying they won't vote, but they might be like I'm

1562
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 4: like your hearing said, I'll vote. I'm not giving money,

1563
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 4: not knocking on doors. I'm not like y'all got it,

1564
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 4: y'all go go get your Charlie Kirks, go get your

1565
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 4: go get you.

1566
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 5: Jordan Peterson, you told me you knew how to run

1567
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 5: this shit, bitch, run it right. So I worry about that.

1568
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 5: The poll do you like sex as your only gift

1569
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 5: for your birthday? Yes or no? Seventy eight percent say no,

1570
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 5: twenty two percent say yes, So shout out to those

1571
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 5: twenty twenty two. Let's get to.

1572
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 4: The next episode, But first we got to have us

1573
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 4: a bit of a commercial break so we can come

1574
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:51,760
Speaker 4: back to this.

1575
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 5: Let's see, let's go with this.

1576
01:17:55,360 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 8: One, all right.

1577
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 4: The next episode is Law and Order Emojis Unit. We

1578
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 4: got three comments UPA says AI didn't get me yet.

1579
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,839
Speaker 4: But my secret is not engaging with two sensational content

1580
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 4: because I know when I'm fearful enough, I can't say

1581
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 4: any more of the negative outcome is likely. My brain

1582
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 4: fires on ten out of ten. I can get gotten

1583
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 4: by fear. I know I would get gotten if I

1584
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 4: engage more. Maybe it helps that my brain is mostly

1585
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 4: very full from the fast pacing work it gets.

1586
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 5: It's all the dopamine there.

1587
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 4: I don't need much extra excitement, and the upside is

1588
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 4: they pay me as an extrovert. I also enjoy home

1589
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 4: way more in the last year's love time to disengage

1590
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 4: and just be. My brain also needs this time to

1591
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 4: get quiet and keep functioning.

1592
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1593
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 4: I think one thing about the pandemic.

1594
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 5: Is some people, you know, as much.

1595
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 4: As it hurts and affects negative negative ways too, some

1596
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,799
Speaker 4: people did find like a little bit more like solace

1597
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 4: and like oh wait, being alone sometimes were being able

1598
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 4: to like not have to interact out of time.

1599
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 5: It can be good. Yes, it's not always a bad

1600
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 5: thing because for some people they have particularly pre pandemic.

1601
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 5: For some people, they always felt like they had to

1602
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 5: be on and so because of this they could pull away,

1603
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 5: they could reshift, recenter themselves, reevaluate their lives. The pandemic

1604
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 5: caused a lot of people to do that, and so

1605
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 5: you know, because of that, it's like, hey, I can

1606
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 5: actually not spend as much money, not blow as much money,

1607
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 5: you know, cut down on things, get toxic people out

1608
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 5: of my life, and things like that. So the pandemic

1609
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 5: ain't always a bad thing. And some of that is

1610
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 5: actually just staying staying at home. Yeah, let's see.

1611
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 4: Justin says, when you talked about your bevil story and

1612
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 4: said we back, I knew exactly who he who shall

1613
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 4: not be named was because I heard it in his voice.

1614
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 4: And it's ironic that your screen name is Justin.

1615
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 5: He says.

1616
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 4: I personally laugh at Farst because I'm immature and it's

1617
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 4: a funny sound. Wig Snatcher will never not be funny

1618
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 4: in the most circumstances. And as for falling, I only

1619
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 4: laugh if the person isn't seriously hurt. I think those

1620
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 4: things just happen so unexpectedly that you can't help but

1621
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 4: chuckle a little. Yeah, I'm not talking like motherfucker's falling

1622
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 4: on and dying from a heart attack, or like a motherfucker's.

1623
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 5: Leg crumpling backwards.

1624
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1625
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 4: I think white people laugh and shit like that, but

1626
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 4: I don't laugh and stuff like that, but like falls

1627
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 4: where no one dies or gets hurt too bad, Like

1628
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 4: I don't know why, but they got a hundred out

1629
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 4: of one hundred percent people laughing.

1630
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 5: It's fucked up, but it's true.

1631
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like a good these jokes.

1632
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 5: I've fallen. I've fallen myself. I remember once I was

1633
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 5: leaving a party early.

1634
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 4: It's back when I had white friends and I was

1635
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 4: ready to go home, and they was fitting to stay

1636
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 4: lit for the whole night, and I was like, you know,

1637
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 4: it was cool, but let me head to the crib.

1638
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 4: And that meant I was walking by myself, and it

1639
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 4: was it started it was snowing or something while we

1640
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,839
Speaker 4: were inside, and I was like, oh, yeah, that's another reason.

1641
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 5: Let me just get home.

1642
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you be stuck.

1643
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 4: And I get into the parking lot and there apparently

1644
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 4: some ice had formed between two cars. I didn't see

1645
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 4: it because some snow was over it, and I slipped

1646
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:51,600
Speaker 4: fell between the two cars onto my back and I

1647
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 4: just laid there for like i'd say a good sixty

1648
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 4: seconds to two minutes, and I laughed.

1649
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 5: I was just like, this is some bullshit.

1650
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: Like this is why I'm thinking of my black ass

1651
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: on right now.

1652
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was so cold.

1653
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm not even sure if I'm hurt

1654
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 4: or not. I don't think, so let me start real

1655
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 4: simple like kill bill, wiggle your big toe.

1656
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 5: And then move on.

1657
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,559
Speaker 4: Get my body up and then and it's like I

1658
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 4: was slipping the stand up because I'm between the two cars,

1659
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 4: trying to use them for.

1660
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 5: Leverage and all that shit. It was fun. I thought

1661
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,879
Speaker 5: it was funny. My point is, even in that situation

1662
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 5: where I was the one feeling the pain, I was like,

1663
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 5: this is objectively hilarious. Though if I was outside of

1664
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 5: our outbody experience, I'd be like, oh, look at this

1665
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 5: guy falled. That was funny.

1666
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 4: Hearing about the AI story makes me so glad I

1667
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 4: deleted Twitter. Since Musty took over, it's been pure dumpster fire.

1668
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 4: A lot of these stories don't make sense anyway. And

1669
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 4: or maybe the AI stories haven't gotten to me yet.

1670
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 4: It's because I don't know who half these people are. Yeah,

1671
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 4: I'm telling y'all. Sometimes our listeners send me AI shit,

1672
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 4: and I'll be judging y'all.

1673
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 5: I'm not ain't gonna lie, Like, can you leave? The

1674
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,879
Speaker 5: coach got in a press conference and said.

1675
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 4: I'll slap my dick on the ground, Like, of course

1676
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 4: I can't believe it because of course that didn't happen.

1677
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 5: That did not happen. That won't be the number one

1678
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 5: fucking story everywhere.

1679
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 4: So you think only the Shade room on Instagram got

1680
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 4: the scoop pray. You think Mike McDaniels went out on

1681
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 4: black and black Face and said Tyreek Hill is a

1682
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 4: bitch and Sports Center said, let's not cover that right.

1683
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 1: Sports Center said not today, But.

1684
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 5: You said, let me send it to ride. He'll understand.

1685
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 4: And I don't be believing y'all because I don't play

1686
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 4: with that AI shit. So when I reply back and

1687
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 4: be like, this is some AI bullshit, they'd be like, Oh,

1688
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 4: it didn't get me.

1689
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 5: I just thought it was funny. You didn't say that

1690
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 5: in the description. You sent it to me because you

1691
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,600
Speaker 5: believe that shit did deep down because you wanted to

1692
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 5: believe it. And now you're mad because I'm being like,

1693
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 5: you got God, I didn't get got. I was trying

1694
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,759
Speaker 5: to get you. Oh so you don't respect me, No, nigga,

1695
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 5: you was gonna send it to me. I'm dumb without

1696
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 5: telling me?

1697
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: Is ay?

1698
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 4: Come on, y'all be getting got by that shit saying

1699
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 4: same vibe is getting.

1700
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 5: Your uh all?

1701
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 4: They get your news from the memes where it's like,

1702
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 4: here's a picture with words under it.

1703
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 5: Did you know Beyonce killed three people? I'm like, I

1704
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 5: doubt it. I doubt it. Where'd you find it? A

1705
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 5: picture on the neighborhood without.

1706
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: A link on Instagram?

1707
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 4: Okay, and you figure they covered the whole Okay, god

1708
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 4: all right?

1709
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 5: Last episode.

1710
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 4: Comments on YouTube dark Namja just winky emojis.

1711
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 5: Nicole says the cracker barrel switch up.

1712
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 4: It's crazy. I remember when Facebook changed your logo the

1713
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 4: first time. People didn't like it at first, but they

1714
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 4: kept it everyone and justin kept it moving.

1715
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 5: Well.

1716
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 4: Knowing that we didn't have a bunch of bots back

1717
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 4: then that could manipulate any touched one in society probably

1718
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 4: made that a little more real. It was probably like

1719
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 4: seven people upset instead of pretending to be seventeen hundred.

1720
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 4: Let's see, Jason says. Man Rod's story about Bevelin the

1721
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,600
Speaker 4: unimpressed store clerk had me rolling. It reminded me of

1722
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 4: the Martin episode when Martin everyone knew him and the

1723
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 4: angry man said, man, and sit your ass down. That

1724
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 4: is funny. I remember one time when I was like

1725
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 4: twenty one or so, I got a job, and a

1726
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 4: job job like forty hours a week, put on a

1727
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 4: suiting tie type job. And I remember I've been you know,

1728
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:20,759
Speaker 4: I all my business. I'll be in the cafeteria or whatever.

1729
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 4: I was going to get some food and this black

1730
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 4: woman who was a coworker WHI if'e seen around, walked

1731
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 4: up to me and just started talking to me.

1732
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 5: We're just fine, you know, people talk. I was like,

1733
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 5: oh yeah, blah blah blah whatever.

1734
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 4: And I'm like taking to my head, like why is

1735
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 4: she so pressed to talk to me? Like she was

1736
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 4: all smiley in my face.

1737
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 1: And shit, yeah, a questions in the back of your head.

1738
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 4: And I was, you know, and I'm and you know,

1739
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 4: I'm polite and kind and nice and all that stuff.

1740
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 4: But you know, sometimes you can feel like I don't

1741
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 4: think I'm having a conversation. I think it's her just

1742
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 4: talking at me smiling yep. And then I'm in my

1743
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 4: head I'm supposed to process it into oh, this is

1744
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 4: a nice, friendly person that likes me and they just

1745
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 4: want to have a conversation.

1746
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,799
Speaker 5: And I want to say maybe like two three minutes.

1747
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 5: And she was like yes, and that's why I have

1748
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 5: prepaid legal Have you heard about that? You prepaid the cost?

1749
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 5: I got a card for you. I was like, oh,

1750
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 5: this is a sales pitch. Like what, No, Now I

1751
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 5: feel disrespected cause you think I'm the kind of sucker

1752
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 5: that will fall for the fucking pyramid scheme. Yep. This

1753
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,879
Speaker 5: went from like oh, maybe this lice lady is mistaken

1754
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 5: and thinks that I'm single, or she's nice and you know,

1755
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 5: she just needs to make some friends at work or whatever.

1756
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 5: It went from all that, They're like, oh, now you

1757
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 5: think I'm a fucking sucker.

1758
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: Get out of here, Like no, no, thank you, I

1759
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: don't want dance.

1760
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 4: But that's how I had a bevil situation felt because

1761
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:39,560
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I have something to add to

1762
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 4: the com Oh this isn't a conversation.

1763
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,639
Speaker 5: This is a sales pitch for Bebel. Okay, got it, Yeah,

1764
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 5: that's what it was. I actually didn't know you you

1765
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 5: knew the creator, so I really am impressed. Yeah, m h,

1766
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 5: I know.

1767
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:52,879
Speaker 4: I don't know if the whipping of the slave touchdown

1768
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 4: dance with in celebrations. I think it would, especially depending

1769
01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 4: on who you have do it. Like if you get

1770
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 4: like say the Raiders get an interception and then they

1771
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 4: get that white mega dude to whip one of the

1772
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 4: black defensive.

1773
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: Backs, I think everybody lose their mind.

1774
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 5: I think it was celebrations.

1775
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 4: I think they will pass the rule there are no

1776
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 4: celebrations allowed period. Because the reason you'd have to pass

1777
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 4: the rule is not that for all of us who

1778
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,919
Speaker 4: would denounce it, it's for the ones who would supported.

1779
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 4: They don't like us pointing out the division. They don't

1780
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 4: like me, can't ignore the division. They don't mind there

1781
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 4: being a divide. They just don't want anything that we

1782
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 4: have to talk about it. I think if it wouldn't

1783
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 4: like I said, it would be the supporters that would

1784
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 4: be like, well, what's wrong with that?

1785
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 9: Is?

1786
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 5: It was in a movie. I know because I feel

1787
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 5: like this, if you don't stop in next thing, you

1788
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 5: know they're gonna be picking cottony getting whooped and they're like, ah,

1789
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 5: we can't be having this.

1790
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 4: And then you're gonna have black people that's gonna retaliate.

1791
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,639
Speaker 4: You're gonna have all the people imitating on social media.

1792
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 1: Yes, yes you will, all the memes and tiktoks.

1793
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 4: In this environment that might get you to the Pro Bowl.

1794
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 4: I can't our challenge called.

1795
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 5: Kenttaan besides Kentin, besides that damn Trump dance ended celebrations

1796
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 5: for me. I feel especially bad for the person who

1797
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 5: got ambushed at the churches. They did what they were

1798
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 5: supposed to do. Staying in your car rather than going

1799
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 5: to the walk up window usually lowers the chance of

1800
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 5: an incident from fifty percent to ten percent.

1801
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 4: Sometimes ten percent is all it takes. Though agreed, Tammy says,

1802
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 4: a great episode. This is Timmy b from the chat.

1803
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 4: I had to listen back and I can't with y'all

1804
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 4: and Aaron took longer than expected.

1805
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 5: Also, I am self employed, so no coworkers.

1806
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 4: However, I do suggest the podcast when asked for my

1807
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 4: favorite podcast.

1808
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 5: I appreciate everyone being concerned.

1809
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 1: We was concerned, You're just disappearing.

1810
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 5: Everybody was like wait a minute, you've been going for

1811
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 5: too long, she said, she would be right back right.

1812
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 5: I'm like, what happened to ten?

1813
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: What happened Timmy? Are you okay? Are you okay?

1814
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 5: Search party?

1815
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: Let's we were looking for you and on.

1816
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 4: Spotify we got two comments. Deflay says, tell me why

1817
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 4: when I read this episode description about falling, farting, and

1818
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 4: wig coming off, I thought you meant all those things

1819
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 4: happening at one time, and our vision Eddie Murphy's aren't

1820
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 4: falling down the steps, And.

1821
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 5: I just couldn't stop laughing at myself once again that joke.

1822
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 5: That joke will forever be classic because it had all

1823
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 5: of them happened at the same time, and they're all

1824
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 5: so funny, like that might be the silliest joke in

1825
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 5: the set, and yet it was one hundred percent laugh rate.

1826
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 5: Patty says, your observations about social media algorithms, bubbles and

1827
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 5: comment sections are one hundred percent correct. Me and my

1828
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 5: fiance share tiktoks and often watch them together. Our comment

1829
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 5: sections are always different and tailored to us. Crazy. That's

1830
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 5: so crazy that, I mean, I get it, but damn

1831
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 5: we really living in separate reality sometimes. Yeah, it's amazing.

1832
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 5: We don't have and nothing is standardized, and even your

1833
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 5: Google searches and shit like that is not even standardized

1834
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 5: because depends on what part of the country and where

1835
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 5: you're from. Sometimes we will determine what your algorithm tells you.

1836
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 5: It's just scary because like you wouldn't know, right, Like

1837
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 5: none of us like you should know. I'm not saying

1838
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 5: you're incapable of knowing, but it's we're our singular experience

1839
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 5: is unified by the fact that we're all having it, right,

1840
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 5: So it wouldn't It doesn't register to me right away

1841
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 5: to be like, oh, I should verify that what I'm

1842
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 5: seeing on my social media is what Karen seeing or hers. Instead,

1843
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 5: I'm like, did you see what happened on TikTok? Like

1844
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 5: I'm talking about on NBC or on ESPN, where ESPN

1845
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 5: is the same for every single person watching it, so

1846
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 5: we all know if the WNBA game is on, we

1847
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 5: saw the score, we saw the highlights if we watched it,

1848
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 5: Whereas what in reality what's happening is I ain't watching

1849
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 5: the game, and my camera angles are different, my broadcasters different,

1850
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 5: my announcers are different, And then I'm talking to Karen like,

1851
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:55,679
Speaker 5: did you see the game? And she's like the game

1852
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 5: you mean the one where they started fighting each other

1853
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 5: And I'm like, right, it was browling. It wasn't a

1854
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 5: fight at my game, Like that's what social media has

1855
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 5: done to us. Yes, and even I think one time

1856
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 5: you had exd me recently like what do you have

1857
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 5: on your Twitter? And yeah, me and you have two

1858
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,560
Speaker 5: different experiences, like you said, I feel my shit. I

1859
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 5: mean I do get some political stuff, but most time

1860
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 5: I don't mostly not time. Funny how most of my

1861
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 5: shit is look at these dog is, look at these

1862
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 5: puppies and a bunch of Beyonce shit, and.

1863
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 4: They got us because our brains and unwillingness to accept.

1864
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 4: It's such confirmation bias that we have an unwillingness to

1865
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,720
Speaker 4: accept when it's going against something that we believe or

1866
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:40,759
Speaker 4: think would work. Like I saw a listener who listened

1867
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 4: to our podcasts and so they were adding or using

1868
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 4: the hashtag or whatever, and they were saying, I don't

1869
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 4: think the Kawhi Leonard thing is about the algorithm, like

1870
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 4: they were saying, I don't think it's the timeline of

1871
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 4: the algorithm. I just think it's like a much bigger

1872
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 4: it's a big story, and it's bigger on social media

1873
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 4: because nons fans are like fascinated by this billionaire scammer thing.

1874
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 4: And I was like, I hear what you're saying, but

1875
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 4: I can't speak for you. I know it's my algorithm

1876
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:17,719
Speaker 4: because when I stopped clicking on it, I get something

1877
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 4: totally different. And I'm not saying it's even better, it's

1878
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 4: just something different. Like, for example, it was like politics yesterday,

1879
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 4: what was the other thing? If there was another one

1880
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 4: of these fucking things. Oh, a whole lot of hornet

1881
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 4: shit now a whole lot because honest, preseason startup right

1882
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 4: and it's not boll counts. I follow I'm on the

1883
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 4: four you tab not following because I do want to.

1884
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, what is it going to show me? And

1885
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 4: uh so, like when I it's not like Kawhi Leonard

1886
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 4: news or tweets stop happening. Pablo's continually putting it out.

1887
01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 4: If I were to click on it, I guarantee you

1888
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 4: when I go back in, I'll see the first three

1889
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 4: or four things. Is like this cup was story. It's

1890
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 4: not going away, but it also isn't I think it's

1891
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 4: not the hugest story because I have to compare it

1892
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 4: to everything else on my timeline. Uh, A lot of times,

1893
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 4: here's the newest anime. That's because that's what I kept watching.

1894
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 5: I get a lot of anime stuff, yeah, and stuff

1895
01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 5: like that. And on top of that, which algorithm, A

1896
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 5: lot of these apps they listen to you talk and

1897
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 5: all that stuff, so they might pick up on words

1898
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 5: that you're saying, because like for us, I know it

1899
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 5: was wild, but I know last season, periodically we would

1900
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 5: go by the one this game and it would be

1901
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 5: just this one particular sign. I don't know if it

1902
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:38,639
Speaker 5: was GPS oriented or what, but whenever we passed it,

1903
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 5: a lot of times it would change to something cornets oriented.

1904
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 5: And it's kind of like that because that just might

1905
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 5: be our experience whenever we passed that sign.

1906
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 1: Who knows.

1907
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's just interesting because I won't I think,

1908
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 4: and maybe it's because I'm reading Digital Madness or whatever,

1909
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:58,720
Speaker 4: but I will not discount the algorithms. And I know

1910
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 4: that this is not what it used to be. There

1911
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 4: used to be a time when you go to UH,

1912
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 4: you could go to Twitter and you could click on

1913
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 4: trending and it would straight up give you like what

1914
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 4: are the top ten things that are trending right now?

1915
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:16,759
Speaker 4: And now they have a thing where it's like trending

1916
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 4: for you, kind of like it's like, no, this is

1917
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 4: what we think you care about.

1918
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 1: This trending, right not what's actually trending.

1919
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it varies depending on the platform. My mom.

1920
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 4: On my phone, it's almost completely tailored to me. But

1921
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 4: if I do it right now on my desktop, it

1922
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 4: looks like it's these are the top things that are

1923
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 4: just happening possibly today, but I don't really know, Like

1924
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 4: right now, if I go to trending, it's hashtag double

1925
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:42,520
Speaker 4: up college.

1926
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 5: Game day, the lot lemons something about sports. All my

1927
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 5: top ones are sports.

1928
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: How do you go to trending on the on the app?

1929
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you go, there's like a to me, there's like

1930
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 4: a search bar and explore and then when you go

1931
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 4: to search the underneath that is trending for me.

1932
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 5: But I mean, you don't have.

1933
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 1: To die, but okay, go ahead, So you doing it now?

1934
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm just okay. It was it safe

1935
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 5: for you? It says lightning fast a I'm on the

1936
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 5: deck stop and it says double up college game day. Okay,

1937
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,959
Speaker 5: so this must be the old school, this is what's.

1938
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 4: Trending, right, I'm saying there used to be a time

1939
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 4: where if this is what's trending and I went to

1940
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 4: my first like tab for like my feed, it would

1941
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:31,280
Speaker 4: reflect that. It won't now, So I actually don't know

1942
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 4: what is the number one thing that they're talking about

1943
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,759
Speaker 4: on Twitter. I don't see the number one thing. Double

1944
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 4: up isn't on any of my things. College Game Day

1945
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 4: is not on any of my things. Oh I know

1946
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,879
Speaker 4: what it was that took over my feed, WNBA Wnba,

1947
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 4: Cathy dub that took over my feed for a couple

1948
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Speaker 4: of days.

1949
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Speaker 5: Could it be the number one story? Possibly?

1950
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 4: But it could also just be today. No, I'm interested

1951
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 4: in WNBA. So there's feeding whatever it takes to keep

1952
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 4: me on. There is our refusal to accept that that

1953
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,759
Speaker 4: is the manipulation is real and it is happening constantly

1954
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 4: all the time, because everybody's a hindrance to the bigger point,

1955
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 4: which is that we are being manipulated.

1956
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think a lot of people don't want

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Speaker 5: to accept that they are being manipulated.

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Speaker 3: Day.

1959
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Speaker 5: You know, the truth be told, if you own it,

1960
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 5: that's what happens. Y'all know, they've been two steadies. It

1961
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 5: came out like they've told y'all we are doing shit

1962
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 5: on purpose.

1963
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Speaker 4: I want they know my brain goes I would like

1964
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,799
Speaker 4: the things I care about to be the most interesting

1965
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Speaker 4: topics in the world to everyone.

1966
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Speaker 5: So that's my default, so I should be on there

1967
01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 5: like No, you understand everyone cares about the pheesia talking

1968
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 5: about Kathy, and it's like, I'm sure they care. I'm

1969
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Speaker 5: sure a lot of people care.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that they care about it more than

1971
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 4: the government shut down. I don't know that they care

1972
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 4: about it more than college game day. My feed says

1973
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 4: they do, but I can't trust my feed.

1974
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:52,679
Speaker 5: Nope.

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01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:57,759
Speaker 4: All right, let's get to some voicemails. I'll play another beat.

1976
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 4: I already got more voicemails than usual today, which means

1977
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,240
Speaker 4: I should also open up my other browser. Let's not

1978
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Speaker 4: go through the mute.

1979
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Speaker 1: I thought you'd like to do that as part as

1980
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:41,599
Speaker 1: a comedy routine.

1981
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, life for you guys to hear it the first.

1982
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: The first time versus that's replaying it.

1983
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:52,799
Speaker 4: Uh So let me make sure that I have it right. Okay,

1984
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 4: I think this is right.

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Speaker 5: Okay. The first one from dre.

1986
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Speaker 3: What's up y'all get drag. So usually I call in

1987
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 3: I have something to say about the world or my

1988
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,000
Speaker 3: life or what the fuck ever I don't. This is

1989
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 3: actually literally just for the other listings. If you are

1990
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 3: not already premium on that Patreon that if this is

1991
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 3: a week after the feedback show, so if the seven

1992
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 3: day trial is gone, you missed this out. But if

1993
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 3: it's still there, go get that pre seven days. You

1994
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 3: will never ever ever be more fulfilled by a premium

1995
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 3: package in your life. The premium is so under There's

1996
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,600
Speaker 3: so much content on the premium. You can pick and

1997
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 3: choose what you want to listen to, and you still

1998
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 3: will never feel like you are caught up on a podcast.

1999
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:48,759
Speaker 3: If you need more rioting Karen, if you miss Justin.

2000
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 9: If you like movies, if you a nerd, if you

2001
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 9: like sports, if you like trauma, if you like music,

2002
01:38:58,400 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 9: all of.

2003
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 3: These things are is it? If you sign up for

2004
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 3: the premium gone and give them fifteen dollars and get

2005
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 3: in this muffle, Come on in the here.

2006
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:10,799
Speaker 9: The water is fine.

2007
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 3: Do you hear what I'm saying? The pregame is a

2008
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 3: two hour podcast that come before a Balls Beat, which

2009
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 3: is a two and a half hour podcast. It's more

2010
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 3: than worth your money. The Patreon is smooth with it too.

2011
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 3: You play good on your phone. You know what I'm saying,

2012
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:33,640
Speaker 3: Android or Apple real compatible and shit, y'all don't get

2013
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:36,640
Speaker 3: my people. They little money. That's it Ride Carron. I

2014
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 3: love y'all, y'all the hardest working podcast there is. Anybody

2015
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 3: who don't know it is sweet. I'm out.

2016
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: Oh thank you babe.

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01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 5: Be a great ad for premium, but it's one. Yeah.

2018
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 5: Roger found out that if you're on't Patreon, you can

2019
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 5: do a seven day trial for both levels, the five

2020
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 5: dollars level and the fifteen dollars. Try it out for yourself.

2021
01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 4: You don't have to sign up if you want to see, like,

2022
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 4: is this worth it? What do I get there?

2023
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 5: You go? All right?

2024
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 4: We got this one from a Legra, but it doesn't

2025
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 4: have a transcript and it's the full three minutes, so.

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Speaker 6: Hie you to Telegra. Warning this might be two messages,

2027
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 6: but I'll try to be brief.

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Speaker 9: Famous last words.

2029
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Speaker 6: I know. I just got through listening to Chris and Karen. Yay,

2030
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:27,679
Speaker 6: what great conversation. It was so lovely and it's gonna

2031
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 6: mirror some of the stuff that I am about to say,

2032
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 6: I've just got I watched the Klein and Coats YouTube

2033
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 6: video three times now, wanting to really see the body

2034
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 6: language and hear and understand all the bits and pieces.

2035
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 6: And what I took away was the phrase whiteness TM.

2036
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,799
Speaker 6: It's a phrase that I've been sort of bantering about,

2037
01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 6: and I'm pretty sure I got it from you guys,

2038
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 6: is probably you rad I believe that it really sums

2039
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 6: things up perfectly. Uh. These folks are allowed to believe

2040
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 6: that they can intellectualize history of America and racism and

2041
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 6: bigotry without feeling the effects. But now that the scorpion

2042
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 6: has stepped stabbed them in the back, they are left

2043
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 6: hurt and having a crisis of identity. Whiteness TM created

2044
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 6: a delusion, and being black in America and other is

2045
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 6: the reality. It's a hard to to swallow. It's a

2046
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 6: hard to to swallow for whites who are now walk

2047
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 6: waking up to this and feeling the stain directly. People

2048
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 6: like Ezra want to find a thing or a person

2049
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:56,640
Speaker 6: to blame because it's easier, it's the American way to

2050
01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:02,000
Speaker 6: do that, right, But they're realizing that, like truly realizing

2051
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 6: it's the machine, the system, the institution. It's harder to

2052
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 6: wrap your brain around that when you are a part

2053
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 6: of it, when you're part of whiteness TM. And this

2054
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 6: allows you to have privilege, to be able to have

2055
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:21,479
Speaker 6: deep disagreements with people that and then still try to

2056
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 6: work with them. But what happens with Coats and black

2057
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 6: folks is we never had that privilege, right. We were

2058
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:34,439
Speaker 6: never able to like, uh, put our humanity to the

2059
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 6: side because it was us, We were the ones who

2060
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 6: were having to deal with whiteness TM, the effects of it, right,

2061
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 6: the negative effects of it. We've also known that the

2062
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 6: site was bigger than individuals. And that is why when

2063
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 6: Coats is doing his activism, When Coats is doing his writing,

2064
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 6: he's going in front of Congress, or he's writing about

2065
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 6: policy and law, he's trying to address the larger problem.

2066
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 4: Not Now she got cut off and she did call back.

2067
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 4: But the thing I was gonna say is you ever

2068
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 4: noticed a question you've never seen asked from white people

2069
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 4: to black people is how do y'all know not to

2070
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 4: vote for this shit?

2071
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:28,640
Speaker 1: Never because they don't care and they don't want to

2072
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 1: hear it.

2073
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 4: They just they assume a certain level of like, y'all

2074
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 4: just got to do it.

2075
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 5: You don't need to be convinced.

2076
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 4: You don't have a choice, And like either in that conversation, right,

2077
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:46,679
Speaker 4: they don't respect us as equals, and that conversation even

2078
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 4: in that coalition, black people have never not been working

2079
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 4: with racists to try to get advancements. Right, Like to

2080
01:43:56,560 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 4: hear Ezra Klein say, you know, this is weird, almost

2081
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 4: like an unspoken assumption of like, well, we have to

2082
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 4: go work with these people to win. It's like, I am,

2083
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:09,519
Speaker 4: what do you think? What do you think Coach is

2084
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 4: doing here? I'm not saying you're as bad as these

2085
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 4: other folks, but.

2086
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 5: This is outreach. We're saying, if you reach out over there,

2087
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 5: you're gonna lose everybody. We're just letting you know. You

2088
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 5: don't got to agree, but you.

2089
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 4: Obviously and you obviously don't agree, and you obviously don't

2090
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 4: really care, and you don't think there's a possibility that

2091
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 4: Coach is right and you're wrong. But we're already doing this.

2092
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 4: Black people are compromising every day when you're the new

2093
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 4: deal that is, that is black.

2094
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 5: People working with a racist society and framework knowing that

2095
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 5: we're gonna probably get stabbed in the back and get

2096
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 5: cut out of the deal, you know the GI bill,

2097
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:52,679
Speaker 5: Like that's we we do do that. So you're telling

2098
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 5: us to do something we're already doing as if that's

2099
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 5: the solution, and we're telling you yeah, and you still

2100
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 5: lose when you do that. So we've done that in law.

2101
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:03,679
Speaker 5: Now what that's fatalistic? You know she did right back?

2102
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 6: Yep, it's the like again, I knew it. So I

2103
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 6: just want to finally say, you can see the stark

2104
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 6: difference right, you can see whiteness TM versus being black

2105
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:18,759
Speaker 6: in America. And Coats even said it within the interview.

2106
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 6: He was like, I'm not looking at the individual. I'm

2107
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:25,640
Speaker 6: not even trying to throw individuals away. I'm focusing on policy.

2108
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Speaker 6: And I think this gets lost with people like crying

2109
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Speaker 6: because he thinks he can go one person at a time.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't hate Ezra. I was even following

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Speaker 6: and listening to Ezra up until recently. That last interview

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01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 6: he had with Ben Shapiro kind of said it made

2113
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 6: it very clear where he was headed in what he

2114
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:54,639
Speaker 6: was doing. And yeah, I just feel very frustrated when

2115
01:45:54,720 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 6: people are not realizing what's right in front of them anyway.

2116
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 6: That's all I have to say. I look forward to

2117
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 6: hearing from what you guys have to say further on it.

2118
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Speaker 6: And yeah, thanks for always tapping into my brain. And

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01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 6: again thanks for you know, speaking up and being honest

2120
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 6: and you know, vulnerable in these times.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, thank you for calling in again.

2122
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 5: Let's see we got another but yeah, I agree with

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01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,640
Speaker 5: pretty much everything you said. I think we reiterated on

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01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:35,560
Speaker 5: this episode. All right, here's another.

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Speaker 9: One, hey, ro.

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Speaker 10: First of all, Ron, thank you for bring that your

2127
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 10: new dial in number is because I had the old

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01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:46,600
Speaker 10: number and I'm trying to figure out why it wasn't

2129
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 10: so anyway happening into it. When I watched the video

2130
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 10: of Y and E, I was waiting to see if

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Speaker 10: you guys are want to talk about it, because I

2132
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:59,680
Speaker 10: really wonder what you know was I totally spout your hearing.

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01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 10: I don't want to listen to it, but just to

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01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:07,680
Speaker 10: like reiterate what Rod say and what kind of havotes

2135
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 10: said is like the whole emphasis behind Ezra flying article

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Speaker 10: that he wrote, and everything he said was like, you know,

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01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 10: that's moral said He's taking against political violence, and I'm

2138
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 10: like dealing with political violence is just a part of

2139
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 10: being black, Like it's a party of everyday life, like

2140
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:29,680
Speaker 10: men harassed by the cops. That's political violence. Having your

2141
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:32,640
Speaker 10: vote the press, that's political violence. Your school's then undefined it.

2142
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 10: That's political violence. Dying at a higher rate than white women,

2143
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,519
Speaker 10: that's like all of it is political violence. And so

2144
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 10: I just what he for seeds to be political violence

2145
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 10: is the most like on the edge end of the

2146
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 10: session of political violence and everything that he's saying, he's

2147
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:52,680
Speaker 10: basically saying like, oh, and also you should deal with

2148
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 10: more political violence because I want to invite these people

2149
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 10: into the party for what You're not going to have

2150
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:01,240
Speaker 10: any long same thing political women these people because they're

2151
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:04,799
Speaker 10: not going to give up anything that they feel entitled to. Right,

2152
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 10: there's no point of having the Party of the big

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Speaker 10: pants if to invite people in you want to require

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01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 10: that their needs be met first. Actually you don't get

2155
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:18,760
Speaker 10: their needs that Like, nothing that he.

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01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 6: Said we need to give up is anything he needs.

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01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 3: To give up.

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01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 10: He's not having his birth control restricted, he's not his

2159
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:30,600
Speaker 10: access to nothing restricted. He's not having his vote surprises

2160
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 10: like in a word where he could be anything else.

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01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 10: Why could you believe just be fucking career anyway.

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01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 6: That's it.

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01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 5: Hey, you know what, that's such a great point about

2164
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:47,480
Speaker 5: how every right he's negotiating and someone else's rights. And

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Speaker 5: in addition to that, the thing he would have to

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01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:58,639
Speaker 5: give up is his ego because many of us would

2167
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 5: no longer see him as the white hat that he

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01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:04,639
Speaker 5: wants to be seen as. And he's not even.

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01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:07,799
Speaker 4: Capable of giving that up because that interview, that article,

2170
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:11,679
Speaker 4: and the sit down with Coach, it was greed.

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01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:13,839
Speaker 5: It was greed. He was greedy.

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01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:16,240
Speaker 4: He was like, I want you to still think of

2173
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 4: me as a good guy. Your article about me made

2174
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 4: me feel like, maybe you don't think what I did

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01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 4: was good, or maybe you don't think.

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01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 5: That's why he invited him on the show, because they

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01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 5: felt a certain way about how he had wrote about him.

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01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 4: Yes, if we can sit here for the hour and

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01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 4: say we're having the conversation, that will be proof in

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01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,559
Speaker 4: itself of something and.

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01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 5: Nothing a certain type of.

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01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 4: White liberal values, actually white people in general, but nothing

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01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 4: they value more than the conversation.

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Speaker 5: Right, And And the thing is maybe for me, that's

2185
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:54,680
Speaker 5: just one of those bust words. As soon as you

2186
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 5: say that, I tap out, because I'm like the fuck,

2187
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:00,920
Speaker 5: we're talking about conversations about what what is it gonna change?

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01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:01,800
Speaker 1: Is?

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01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 5: What are the end results? Like, like, like what are

2190
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:06,200
Speaker 5: your battle plans?

2191
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 6: Are?

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01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 5: We just fucking putting words out in the universe just

2193
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 5: for content, you know, you know, because if you're a

2194
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 5: person has been oppressed or your people have been impressed,

2195
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 5: after a while, you know what, you'd be like, fuck

2196
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 5: a conversation, It's time to fight, bitch.

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01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 1: You know. After while, you go.

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01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 5: Like, there's nothing you can say to make me change

2199
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 5: my mind. Now we gotta go fisticuffs, you know. Now

2200
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,040
Speaker 5: I gotta go out here march and protests and shit

2201
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 5: like this. There's no words you can say. No more

2202
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 5: conversations they can be had unless we're passing motherfucking loss

2203
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:41,920
Speaker 5: and Bill's bitch, that's a conversation. Just randomly talking about

2204
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 5: it ain't gonna change a motherfucking thing in my life.

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01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:51,360
Speaker 4: I think conversation is important, but if it doesn't lead

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01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:56,759
Speaker 4: to conversion, then it's really then it's then it doesn't

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01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:00,640
Speaker 4: really lead anywhere. Just to say you had it is

2208
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:03,600
Speaker 4: not the end goal. And I think for people, like

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01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:06,639
Speaker 4: a certain type of person in America, the end goal

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01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 4: is that the conversation was had not you know, like

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01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 4: he kept alluding to these conversations. We need to be

2212
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,720
Speaker 4: having these conversations. And it's like, okay, but what will

2213
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:21,560
Speaker 4: be changed? Because the conversation, as you alluded to, cannot

2214
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 4: be the end game. It can't be what we We

2215
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 4: can't go home celebrating that we had a conversation. We

2216
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:31,479
Speaker 4: need to be celebrating the impact. And if the impact

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01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 4: isn't suing up our rights freedoms that I don't really

2218
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 4: have time or care or have any value for just

2219
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:42,720
Speaker 4: the idea that we sat down, that means nothing to me.

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01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 5: Right And on top of that, guess a lot of

2221
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:46,839
Speaker 5: a lot of people woul probably like to have conversation

2222
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:48,959
Speaker 5: because they don't have to invest anything in the conversation.

2223
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 5: The conversation does not require and not tell me funny

2224
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 5: anything on their part other than their hypothesis. There their

2225
01:51:56,840 --> 01:52:01,120
Speaker 5: their scientific words and big words. That's all it's doing. Yes, Yes,

2226
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 5: because you're not directly impacted by these things. Because because

2227
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 5: when you have somebody that's being directly impacted by these things,

2228
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 5: they're quote unquote conversation that you have.

2229
01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 1: When they bring the shit up, you fucking dismiss it.

2230
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 5: So what is the purpose of this conversation When people

2231
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 5: have valid anger, their their anger is valid. They're smart,

2232
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 5: they're intelligent, they're breaking the things down, they're telling you

2233
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 5: these things on on on an intellectual level, and they're

2234
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 5: still being dismissed.

2235
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:27,679
Speaker 1: Bitch, I don't want to talk to you.

2236
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think at the end of the day,

2237
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 4: a person like client feels validated in that he had

2238
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:39,160
Speaker 4: Jordan Peterson on his show, and he also had Coats

2239
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 4: on this show, and in that way he is a

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Speaker 4: neutral good and and that and those two things show

2241
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 4: his virtue, and that is a value system issue that

2242
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 4: I would he would not understand how many of us

2243
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 4: look at that and go, we don't value that, and

2244
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:02,559
Speaker 4: if anything, that's kind of a mark against you.

2245
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 5: And he don't like that. He's like, you're drawing the line.

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01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 5: You're kicking me out. I didn't call your nase. I'm

2247
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 5: not kicking you.

2248
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:08,639
Speaker 1: I'm not kicking out.

2249
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:11,719
Speaker 5: I do not have to put you on a pedestal.

2250
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 4: And I don't have to accept like your content is

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01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 4: the bridge that you think it is. I can think

2252
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:19,680
Speaker 4: it's just wrong and bad and the same way that

2253
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:20,719
Speaker 4: I'm sure you do it people.

2254
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 5: And also the biggest part you why do I have

2255
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:25,719
Speaker 5: to respect your opinion when you don't have to sprink

2256
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 5: mine like like like you can come in with all

2257
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 5: these opinions.

2258
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 1: I gotta respect that though, because it's you.

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01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 5: Why do you think he doesn't respect the opinion because like,

2260
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 5: like doing the conversation, the part I heard when Coats

2261
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 5: was coming out with things, it was like, yeah, he

2262
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 5: was talking about it, and end of the day, you

2263
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 5: don't respect it. You don't respect it because you just

2264
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:45,519
Speaker 5: want to have a conversation. So in my mind, when

2265
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 5: you just want to have these conversations, you're not trying

2266
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:51,720
Speaker 5: to get You're not giving anything that will actually fix it.

2267
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 5: You're not giving anything that will actually really add to

2268
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. All you're doing is you're consisistently rebutting

2269
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 5: what I'm saying and coming up with excuse. So my

2270
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 5: thing is you want me. You want to put out

2271
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:05,439
Speaker 5: this long guess article and you want me to pat

2272
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:07,479
Speaker 5: you on the ass and say it's all good and

2273
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 5: love your words and to not be offended by anything

2274
01:54:10,439 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 5: that you say.

2275
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:12,800
Speaker 1: Okay, you don't want me to be offended by That's

2276
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 1: why he want to talk to if coach came out

2277
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 1: and said.

2278
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:17,280
Speaker 5: I don't like what you said, so because he didn't

2279
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:21,719
Speaker 5: respect your opinion, all of a sudden, your ego pops

2280
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 5: up and we have to sit and respect your opinion.

2281
01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 5: But you don't have respect my No, I have the

2282
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 5: right to reflect what you say.

2283
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 4: The only thing I would push back on is I

2284
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 4: don't think he was trying to express a lack of

2285
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 4: respect for coach's opinion. I don't think that's what's happening.

2286
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 4: I think his measure of respect is the idea of

2287
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 4: sitting across from somebody, them saying something, and then you

2288
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 4: saying something back. I think that's how he measures respect.

2289
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 4: I think I'm with you in that. I felt he

2290
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 4: was basically a brick wall who was there to say,

2291
01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 4: look at me standing in the same room as this

2292
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 4: that we don't agree with. But I will not budge

2293
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 4: or come off of anything. I will not learn from this.

2294
01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:08,200
Speaker 5: I will not come out of this and say, damn,

2295
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 5: you know what. Coach pulled my card. But he was right.

2296
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 4: I went too far. I shouldn't have said it that way.

2297
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 4: It's like, no, I'm going to smile, I'm going to nod.

2298
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna yell, I'm gonna wait my turn to speak,

2299
01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:25,280
Speaker 4: but when it is my turn, I will continually to

2300
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:29,680
Speaker 4: steadfastly say, regardless of what your opinion is right, my

2301
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:34,120
Speaker 4: opinion is just as valid. And so that's why I

2302
01:55:34,160 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 4: would say. In his mind, he wasn't I don't respect

2303
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 4: your opinion. In his mind, respect is the same way

2304
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 4: he respects Jordan Peterson. Like we both sat in this room,

2305
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 4: we both exchanged ideas. We didn't raise our voices, we

2306
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 4: didn't cut.

2307
01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 5: Each other off.

2308
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 4: I have as much respect for your opinion as I

2309
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 4: have for ton of hose Coach's.

2310
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:52,160
Speaker 1: Opinion, right, and I don't.

2311
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:54,840
Speaker 4: So yeah, So I'm just I just wanted to point

2312
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:57,480
Speaker 4: that out because I know there's gonna people like, well,

2313
01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 4: you mean they're friends that he does respect his opinion.

2314
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 5: He hasn't want to show more than anybody else. I

2315
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 5: hear you.

2316
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 4: I I just think his measure of respect is different

2317
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 4: than mine. Mine is one of taking things in considering,

2318
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 4: but it doesn't mean you have to agree.

2319
01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 5: Doesn't but mine, I don't know that. I think there

2320
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:20,520
Speaker 5: are sometimes where only one of you gets to be right.

2321
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 5: And this felt like a conversation where uh, true person

2322
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 5: who was taking in what Coach was said had said

2323
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:33,040
Speaker 5: would have had to have been changed fundamentally, and I

2324
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 5: think Coach went into that conversa, Klein went into that

2325
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 5: conversation with the goal of not being changed fundamentally agreed,

2326
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 5: and maybe that's how he went into the Jordan Peterson

2327
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 5: conversation as well. But that's there's a there's a I

2328
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 5: don't know what the right word is, but there's a

2329
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 5: commodification of respect. I don't know what the right word.

2330
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 5: That's not one hundred percent the right word, but like

2331
01:56:55,560 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 5: there's a certain sort of like commerce that's a t transaction.

2332
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 5: There's a transactional respect that is happening, and that they

2333
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 5: would call it.

2334
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 4: It's like I respect Coats because I let him exchange

2335
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:11,120
Speaker 4: ideas and I didn't shut him down, so I respect him.

2336
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 4: And to me, I'm with you caring and that it

2337
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 4: doesn't feel like respect. To me, it feels like you're

2338
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:21,040
Speaker 4: just you know self. You know, you're just jacking off

2339
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:23,880
Speaker 4: on the fact that you both that you're both in

2340
01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 4: the room together. But I don't know that I would

2341
01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 4: call it respecting his opinion, because if you really have

2342
01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 4: respect for it, I think.

2343
01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 5: It's almost impossible not to have some level of like, shit,

2344
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 5: I was wrong, right, And also I think for me

2345
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 5: you're right because about you know him, resent version respect.

2346
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 5: But for me, Coats was to stand in for me.

2347
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 5: So you don't respect him, you don't respect me. And

2348
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 5: so as far as I'm concerned, you don't respect his opinion,

2349
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 5: you don't respect my opinions.

2350
01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 4: Respect for you would have been you would have measured

2351
01:57:56,760 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 4: it as him taken in this opinion, entering it, and

2352
01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 4: it haven't been changed by it.

2353
01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 5: Or at least willing to have some form of listening

2354
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:06,760
Speaker 5: like like like it.

2355
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:08,040
Speaker 1: It's almost like.

2356
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:10,800
Speaker 5: You came in with your points and regardless of what

2357
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 5: was said, it was nope, check, nope, check, nope, check,

2358
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:15,320
Speaker 5: no check, no check, no check, no check.

2359
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:17,840
Speaker 4: So I listened to the whole thing. There were times

2360
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:20,720
Speaker 4: where he I don't think it was just no. It

2361
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:23,040
Speaker 4: wasn't like maybe that's what the clips that Chris played

2362
01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 4: for you. But I don't think the whole thing was

2363
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 4: just nope, nope, nope. It wasn't like that to me.

2364
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:31,320
Speaker 4: But the general tenor of the of the thing was

2365
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:34,760
Speaker 4: I will not be changed by this, right, So I mean,

2366
01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 4: there's enough to pick up off the vibe like it

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01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:41,160
Speaker 4: wasn't adversarial. And I think the way they measure disrespect

2368
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 4: in that type of lane is one of average, like, oh,

2369
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:47,520
Speaker 4: you're cutting him off now. All that to say, though,

2370
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:52,640
Speaker 4: another huge point against crime.

2371
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:54,520
Speaker 5: If you had so.

2372
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 4: Much respect for the work that Charlie Kirk was doing,

2373
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 4: if he was doing it the right way, you probably

2374
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 4: should have been cutting off tannehis coats, right. You probably

2375
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:10,160
Speaker 4: should have had, you know, a subtitle to your YouTube

2376
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:14,920
Speaker 4: video climb slams coats destroys DEI liberal.

2377
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 1: It ain't doing no people you claim you want to

2378
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:17,920
Speaker 1: go for if.

2379
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:21,280
Speaker 4: You you know, if the set up shop outside of

2380
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:24,160
Speaker 4: you know, some racist area or something like.

2381
01:59:25,160 --> 01:59:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't.

2382
01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 5: I don't believe he has respect for Charlie Kirk's work

2383
01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:32,920
Speaker 5: just because he says it. You, oh, y'all was envious

2384
01:59:32,920 --> 01:59:35,360
Speaker 5: of what he built. Thedn't go build it, right, You're

2385
01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 5: not doing that work. This is very You're just sympathizing

2386
01:59:39,240 --> 01:59:42,680
Speaker 5: with people that sympathize with a racist because of the

2387
01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 5: way he was taken out. Yeah, and and and and

2388
01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:50,360
Speaker 5: you don't and you don't have to yell for it

2389
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:53,200
Speaker 5: to be I don't want to say ever, cereal. But

2390
01:59:53,240 --> 01:59:55,760
Speaker 5: you don't have to yell in order for somebody to

2391
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:58,839
Speaker 5: be like, hey, dog, I don't like the way this feels.

2392
01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:00,800
Speaker 5: And I feel like I'm not being respected. No, we're

2393
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 5: not yelling, we're not screaming. But like I said, I'm

2394
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:07,120
Speaker 5: very because I'm personally very sensitive to those types of things.

2395
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:10,560
Speaker 5: Me personally, I'm kind of picked up on from what

2396
02:00:10,640 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 5: I've heard, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.

2397
02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 5: Like and like I said, for a lot of times,

2398
02:00:14,800 --> 02:00:16,480
Speaker 5: for me, I heard, well, why wan want want and

2399
02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:18,320
Speaker 5: it's a smack turn off, like what are we doing here?

2400
02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 1: And while we wasting our time?

2401
02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:22,440
Speaker 5: Okay, yep, all right, next words, ma'am.

2402
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:29,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right, whatever you see, Karen, I heard what

2403
02:00:29,160 --> 02:00:32,480
Speaker 3: you said about probably not listening to Kamala's books or

2404
02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:35,840
Speaker 3: reading Kammala's books, or maybe only kind of diving in

2405
02:00:35,920 --> 02:00:42,360
Speaker 3: a little bit. I felt the same way. After the election,

2406
02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:46,120
Speaker 3: I did the same I deleted all my social media apps.

2407
02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:48,200
Speaker 3: I couldn't even stand to see people talk about that

2408
02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:51,640
Speaker 3: shit anymore. Agreed, So I really felt like it might

2409
02:00:51,680 --> 02:00:53,760
Speaker 3: be a little triggering to get into this book.

2410
02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:56,120
Speaker 8: I didn't know.

2411
02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:57,800
Speaker 3: How much I needed this book.

2412
02:00:58,920 --> 02:00:59,400
Speaker 9: It's like.

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02:01:01,160 --> 02:01:04,920
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's a really good fucking reading and

2414
02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:09,200
Speaker 3: that's it. I started the audio book yesterday. I'm sixty

2415
02:01:09,240 --> 02:01:13,200
Speaker 3: three person done with the book already. It's really fucking good.

2416
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:16,960
Speaker 3: And I don't know, you know yourself better than anybody,

2417
02:01:17,200 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 3: so you don't think you're ready, then you're not ready.

2418
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:25,000
Speaker 3: But I felt the same way, and I'm like literally

2419
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:27,840
Speaker 3: in love with this book. But anyways, that's it. Love

2420
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:28,680
Speaker 3: you guys, peace.

2421
02:01:29,200 --> 02:01:33,880
Speaker 5: Thanks, yeah, and I understand that I'm glad you said that.

2422
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:38,280
Speaker 5: Like I said, is one of the things where you know,

2423
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:40,360
Speaker 5: a lot of times you have to be truthful with

2424
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:42,880
Speaker 5: yourself and kind of kind of where you are.

2425
02:01:44,280 --> 02:01:44,760
Speaker 1: I know I.

2426
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:48,200
Speaker 5: Probably will eventually do it. I don't know when, like,

2427
02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:50,520
Speaker 5: like not just funny. Maybe it's just I feel like

2428
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:52,520
Speaker 5: I have to be in the right frame of mind

2429
02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:55,560
Speaker 5: because I think, like I said, right now, I'm just

2430
02:01:55,840 --> 02:02:00,120
Speaker 5: very angry. I'm super super super angry and super but

2431
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:03,440
Speaker 5: super hurt. And I do not know when I'm gonna

2432
02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:06,960
Speaker 5: get over it, y'all. I'm not even gonna lie, and

2433
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:10,360
Speaker 5: and every and and everything that's happening right now just

2434
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:14,800
Speaker 5: reiterates and and rekindles that flame of why I'm mad

2435
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 5: and justify my.

2436
02:02:16,040 --> 02:02:18,880
Speaker 1: Reasonings for being mad.

2437
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 5: And I know it's probably a great read, a great book,

2438
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:24,720
Speaker 5: like everybody has raved about it. Everybody says it's good

2439
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:26,240
Speaker 5: and things like that. Like I said, I know I

2440
02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:28,960
Speaker 5: will eventually when. I don't know, but but I will

2441
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:31,760
Speaker 5: eventually do it. I don't know when, but like I said, when,

2442
02:02:31,800 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 5: my mind will be at the right place or spot

2443
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:36,440
Speaker 5: to be able to receive that.

2444
02:02:37,120 --> 02:02:40,680
Speaker 4: All right, Next, Uh, let's go to the next segment,

2445
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:42,680
Speaker 4: read all's emails, and then we'll wrap it up.

2446
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:46,040
Speaker 5: These extremists want to take us back, but we are

2447
02:02:46,080 --> 02:02:47,360
Speaker 5: not going back back.

2448
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:49,959
Speaker 1: We are not sewing bas.

2449
02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:20,960
Speaker 4: Then we went back, all right, Uh, emails the blackout

2450
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:23,680
Speaker 4: tips at gmail dot com. Stephanie says, not me getting

2451
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:26,680
Speaker 4: laughed at on this pod. When I said y'all were

2452
02:03:26,680 --> 02:03:28,640
Speaker 4: gonna take off, I didn't mean to say it was

2453
02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:30,800
Speaker 4: for Charlie Kirk. Sometimes when a lot of stuff happens

2454
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:32,600
Speaker 4: in a week, some pods take off to catch up

2455
02:03:32,640 --> 02:03:33,240
Speaker 4: with the news.

2456
02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:38,280
Speaker 1: Now, girl, Stephanie, that's hilarious.

2457
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:41,959
Speaker 5: When have we done it? We got thousands of episodes.

2458
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:44,720
Speaker 5: When have we been like guys, the news was too much?

2459
02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:48,000
Speaker 5: We need a break. If anything, we probably didn't need

2460
02:03:48,040 --> 02:03:49,800
Speaker 5: to take the time off, but we mean, like, you

2461
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:51,600
Speaker 5: know what bench is the holiday, we will.

2462
02:03:51,440 --> 02:03:52,160
Speaker 1: Can't do a show.

2463
02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:55,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, when I take time offics because I'm.

2464
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:57,360
Speaker 1: Tired, right right, one of us is tired.

2465
02:03:57,480 --> 02:04:01,160
Speaker 4: Yes, it's not because uh whatever the fuck like it's happened,

2466
02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:02,200
Speaker 4: like the news is crazy.

2467
02:04:02,200 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 5: It's because I'm tired. I'm going crazy. Laugh, minds off.

2468
02:04:05,680 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 4: I didn't mean y'all were sad for him crazy a

2469
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:11,640
Speaker 4: few weeks. Stephanie, It's all good, you know. We make

2470
02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:13,040
Speaker 4: fun out of the stuff that comes in.

2471
02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's our love language.

2472
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 4: I can't just take every email one hundred percent face

2473
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:19,840
Speaker 4: value serious, because if not, then this will be a

2474
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:21,680
Speaker 4: boring show that you wouldn't want to listen.

2475
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:23,880
Speaker 5: It would be so some dings. We gotta we gotta

2476
02:04:23,960 --> 02:04:24,600
Speaker 5: joke with y'all.

2477
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:28,720
Speaker 4: Charlene says, how your right As a belated birthday anniversary gift,

2478
02:04:28,760 --> 02:04:30,560
Speaker 4: I took the liberty and running your show art through

2479
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:33,720
Speaker 4: Google's AI tools. I've been a little busy these days

2480
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:36,560
Speaker 4: teaching AI for Google and them. But just know that

2481
02:04:36,640 --> 02:04:39,160
Speaker 4: while I'm up late playing with the latest AI tools,

2482
02:04:39,200 --> 02:04:41,560
Speaker 4: you and car are my coworkers talking about the news

2483
02:04:41,560 --> 02:04:43,840
Speaker 4: and keep me company. Enjoyed this little vid, and if

2484
02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:45,480
Speaker 4: you want to send me some clip art, I can

2485
02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:47,400
Speaker 4: make it do whatever you wanted to do. I've got

2486
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:49,560
Speaker 4: lots of credits to burn through, so I'm up for

2487
02:04:49,720 --> 02:04:50,680
Speaker 4: just about anything.

2488
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:55,080
Speaker 5: Enjoy and keep up the fantastic podcasting. Y'all know.

2489
02:04:55,080 --> 02:04:58,320
Speaker 4: I don't mess with the AIS, Okay, I don't, especially

2490
02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:01,280
Speaker 4: with how it steals people's work and take credit for

2491
02:05:01,320 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 4: it and all this stuff. But I'll make an exception

2492
02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 4: in this case, not because it's us, but because I

2493
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:12,160
Speaker 4: saw the what she did with it and the thing

2494
02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:14,840
Speaker 4: that she did with it.

2495
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:16,280
Speaker 5: It's not taking anybody's work.

2496
02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:19,680
Speaker 4: It's from I'll show you guys, it's not taking anybody's work.

2497
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:23,000
Speaker 4: It's actually from a bit moji.

2498
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:25,640
Speaker 5: So it's just it's just animating this bit.

2499
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:28,960
Speaker 4: Moji, as opposed to like taking somebody, some human beings

2500
02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:32,080
Speaker 4: work and being like, right, uh, let me let me

2501
02:05:32,080 --> 02:05:32,520
Speaker 4: steal it.

2502
02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:36,800
Speaker 5: So this is the bit moji and she animated it.

2503
02:05:37,160 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 1: Oh that's adorable.

2504
02:05:39,800 --> 02:05:41,400
Speaker 5: Karen hasn't done anything yet.

2505
02:05:41,560 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 4: This is just bit moji. This is just the show

2506
02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:47,120
Speaker 4: art that I used. You haven't even seen anything yet.

2507
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:48,800
Speaker 1: I just like it's adorable.

2508
02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:51,760
Speaker 5: It's the hard all right. Well that's not her work.

2509
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:52,480
Speaker 5: It's my point.

2510
02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:55,280
Speaker 4: I'm about to hit play and show you what she did,

2511
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:01,920
Speaker 4: what got to deal with. So I guess the heart

2512
02:06:02,040 --> 02:06:04,880
Speaker 4: starts moving and jumping up and down. Then it disappeared

2513
02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:07,800
Speaker 4: and wrapped us up in the heart and said happy anniversary.

2514
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:09,240
Speaker 5: So that was cute.

2515
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:11,760
Speaker 1: Yes, that was like thank you.

2516
02:06:12,160 --> 02:06:14,000
Speaker 4: Like I said, I normally gonna fuck with the AI,

2517
02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:17,640
Speaker 4: but since this is no human beings were harmed by

2518
02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:18,800
Speaker 4: this ad human beings.

2519
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:20,960
Speaker 1: Integration of this AI.

2520
02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 4: Uh, let's see Sid said in Homegirls defense at Ota,

2521
02:06:26,320 --> 02:06:29,320
Speaker 4: you told her you are a podcast host, black man

2522
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:31,120
Speaker 4: podcaster has come to mean.

2523
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:33,240
Speaker 5: A lot of things. Also, I'm locked.

2524
02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:35,440
Speaker 4: Oh and then I help her because I did some

2525
02:06:35,600 --> 02:06:37,160
Speaker 4: on the website and she wasn't able to get in

2526
02:06:37,240 --> 02:06:37,880
Speaker 4: and I fixed it.

2527
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:39,960
Speaker 1: But it's hilarious. I ain't thinking about that, but it

2528
02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 1: can mean a lot of different things.

2529
02:06:41,320 --> 02:06:43,280
Speaker 4: That was literally the first thing I thought about, and

2530
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:45,920
Speaker 4: was like fair, But also I realized she was just

2531
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:47,080
Speaker 4: pitching their thing.

2532
02:06:47,120 --> 02:06:48,760
Speaker 5: She didn't care about what, She didn't care about me

2533
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 5: at all.

2534
02:06:49,200 --> 02:06:51,720
Speaker 4: It's fine, say, oh, she know I'm not gonna be

2535
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:53,960
Speaker 4: back in there for it to need some more shaving crank.

2536
02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:55,920
Speaker 1: Right, they gonna like he ain't gonna king coming back.

2537
02:06:56,840 --> 02:07:00,760
Speaker 5: Conspiracy theory on cracker barrel says Crystal Hell and Karen.

2538
02:07:00,760 --> 02:07:03,280
Speaker 5: I'm listening to your conspiracy theory regarding the cracker barrel

2539
02:07:03,320 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 5: and it being bots. I'm so glad that you're covering

2540
02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:08,760
Speaker 5: the story, and your conspiracy theory is what I have

2541
02:07:08,840 --> 02:07:12,040
Speaker 5: observed as well. I will have plastered on my timeline

2542
02:07:12,080 --> 02:07:14,640
Speaker 5: about woman goes viral or my man goes viral for

2543
02:07:14,720 --> 02:07:17,600
Speaker 5: blah blah blah, and my first question is always gone

2544
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 5: viral where I've never heard anybody speaking about the story

2545
02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:23,120
Speaker 5: or who are these people? Or that sounds like an

2546
02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:25,600
Speaker 5: issue between the two of them and in their families.

2547
02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:27,360
Speaker 5: These are not celebrities. Why would I care?

2548
02:07:27,560 --> 02:07:30,440
Speaker 4: But what I can tell you is always there's fighting

2549
02:07:30,480 --> 02:07:33,879
Speaker 4: but underneath these types of stories. So then it's almost

2550
02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:36,120
Speaker 4: like you're creating it to go viral by simply putting

2551
02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:38,520
Speaker 4: that is the first few sentences of the story. And

2552
02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:41,080
Speaker 4: there's always some random picture of somebody, whether it's AI

2553
02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:46,880
Speaker 4: generated or these butt stole somebody's picture. I do feel

2554
02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 4: like it is insidious. I'm not sure if it's some

2555
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:52,280
Speaker 4: type of psychological experiment that is being done with social media.

2556
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:54,840
Speaker 4: But I scroll and keep going, and I'm always shocked

2557
02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:56,880
Speaker 4: that the people in the comments don't realize that a

2558
02:07:57,400 --> 02:08:00,000
Speaker 4: this is either a fake story or something that's just clickbait.

2559
02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:03,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, and it gets all of us. It's very hard.

2560
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:05,720
Speaker 4: There's been times where something's made it through all the

2561
02:08:05,720 --> 02:08:08,560
Speaker 4: way to the our podcast where I'm like reading something

2562
02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:10,920
Speaker 4: and realizing them like, wait a minute, no, this can't

2563
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:11,360
Speaker 4: be true.

2564
02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:12,680
Speaker 1: It don't sound right.

2565
02:08:12,760 --> 02:08:15,680
Speaker 5: But it's because it's cleverly designed to stick our biases,

2566
02:08:15,760 --> 02:08:19,600
Speaker 5: so they know that I feel a certain way about

2567
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:21,879
Speaker 5: shit from everything I've clicked on and read and wrote,

2568
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 5: and they're like, he'll believe it's bullshit. Let's show it

2569
02:08:24,720 --> 02:08:26,440
Speaker 5: to him, and it works.

2570
02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:30,200
Speaker 4: I've also had an inclination about this new Mandela effect

2571
02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:31,600
Speaker 4: and wondering if this is a way to.

2572
02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:33,160
Speaker 5: Get people to question their own memories.

2573
02:08:33,480 --> 02:08:35,560
Speaker 4: If you tell somebody something never happened and it was

2574
02:08:35,560 --> 02:08:37,760
Speaker 4: a figment of their imagination, and people will start to

2575
02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:39,920
Speaker 4: believe that, especially when it comes to other things that

2576
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:42,640
Speaker 4: did happen but they pretend did not. There are several

2577
02:08:42,680 --> 02:08:45,480
Speaker 4: things that supposedly were the Mandela effect where people were

2578
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:47,680
Speaker 4: able to debump because they had photos of the actual

2579
02:08:47,680 --> 02:08:51,560
Speaker 4: product or whatever it was, to prove that this is

2580
02:08:51,560 --> 02:08:53,600
Speaker 4: not a figment of their imagination. But it did get

2581
02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:55,720
Speaker 4: me thinking that this is some type of social experiment

2582
02:08:55,760 --> 02:08:58,040
Speaker 4: to erase certain things in history by pretending you just

2583
02:08:58,120 --> 02:09:03,080
Speaker 4: misremember it, misremembered it, especially now that everything is digital

2584
02:09:03,160 --> 02:09:08,000
Speaker 4: we don't have hard copy encyclopedia or state. I don't

2585
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:10,120
Speaker 4: know if I go so far as the man they're

2586
02:09:10,120 --> 02:09:13,640
Speaker 4: gonna Mandela affect us, but who knows. What I will

2587
02:09:13,720 --> 02:09:17,200
Speaker 4: say is you're one hundred percent right, and that these

2588
02:09:17,240 --> 02:09:20,000
Speaker 4: tools can be utilized that way, and the people in

2589
02:09:20,080 --> 02:09:22,480
Speaker 4: charge of them clearly do not seem to give a

2590
02:09:22,520 --> 02:09:25,960
Speaker 4: fuck about us as people, so I wouldn't put it

2591
02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:28,640
Speaker 4: past them to try. I don't know if they specifically

2592
02:09:28,680 --> 02:09:34,680
Speaker 4: Mandela effects something like let's make everybody forget the submarine imploded.

2593
02:09:34,720 --> 02:09:36,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if they could do that, but I

2594
02:09:36,640 --> 02:09:41,080
Speaker 4: think the idea of something like that we see already

2595
02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:43,920
Speaker 4: where people create fake pictures and shit and be like, oh,

2596
02:09:43,960 --> 02:09:47,880
Speaker 4: DoD you know Ted Cruz was at the march for

2597
02:09:48,000 --> 02:09:50,600
Speaker 4: Selma and it's like it's a black and white AI

2598
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:53,840
Speaker 4: photo that's him. It might not get me, but it's

2599
02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:56,920
Speaker 4: gonna get somebody. You know, there's people out walking around

2600
02:09:56,960 --> 02:09:59,240
Speaker 4: thinking Trump wrote them a check during the pandemic, right,

2601
02:09:59,480 --> 02:10:03,320
Speaker 4: so yeah, they do know. You put the lie out

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02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:05,240
Speaker 4: there enough, it can it can happen.

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Speaker 5: At least.

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02:10:08,440 --> 02:10:11,280
Speaker 4: Write saying an email that's really a voicemail. It says, hey,

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02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:13,840
Speaker 4: Rod and Karen, it's under three minutes. I can try

2606
02:10:13,880 --> 02:10:16,040
Speaker 4: to leave this message on your phone line if it

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02:10:16,080 --> 02:10:21,360
Speaker 4: works better, Leelee from BK All right, oh wait, they're

2608
02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:25,280
Speaker 4: not gonna be able to hear it. Hold on, yeah,

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02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:26,920
Speaker 4: call the voicemail if you can.

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Speaker 5: I prefer the voicemail. It's it's just easier for us

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02:10:30,880 --> 02:10:34,720
Speaker 5: to deal with that, And we have a voicemail segment

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Speaker 5: for that reason, you know, so please do that. But

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Speaker 5: here it's in the show notes. Here's the voicemail.

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Speaker 2: I guess hi, Rod and Karen, this is Lee from Brooklyn.

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02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:47,880
Speaker 2: I want to thank you all for the nice things

2616
02:10:47,920 --> 02:10:54,440
Speaker 2: that you said about my did we forget segment idea.

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02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:58,240
Speaker 1: Maybe podcast so amazing.

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Speaker 2: First off, I have to tell you I did not

2619
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:05,600
Speaker 2: even listen to the episode where my voicemail was featured.

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02:11:06,200 --> 02:11:11,440
Speaker 2: I actually read a transcript of the show because I

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02:11:11,640 --> 02:11:15,680
Speaker 2: don't like to hear my voice, and also keeping in

2622
02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:19,400
Speaker 2: a buck. I was a little nervous that you guys

2623
02:11:19,400 --> 02:11:25,400
Speaker 2: would give me some not nice feedbacks. So not because

2624
02:11:25,440 --> 02:11:28,400
Speaker 2: of it's just the first time I reached out to

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02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:28,760
Speaker 2: you all.

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02:11:28,840 --> 02:11:30,760
Speaker 5: It was about Joe Biden and that.

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02:11:31,200 --> 02:11:33,240
Speaker 2: I thought he shouldn't have run for a second term.

2628
02:11:33,280 --> 02:11:37,080
Speaker 2: And you know, Rod kind of got at me. It's cool,

2629
02:11:37,320 --> 02:11:40,480
Speaker 2: you know, difference of opinion, no big deal. But I

2630
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:45,400
Speaker 2: was really nervous to listen. And it actually wasn't until

2631
02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:48,120
Speaker 2: the next week when I was listening to the feedback

2632
02:11:48,200 --> 02:11:53,360
Speaker 2: show and someone said, Wow, she sounded great and it

2633
02:11:53,400 --> 02:11:55,960
Speaker 2: was a good idea and she has a good memory,

2634
02:11:56,000 --> 02:12:00,640
Speaker 2: to which I say, I literally walked in a room

2635
02:12:00,920 --> 02:12:03,800
Speaker 2: and can't remember what I'm there for, but I can

2636
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:06,919
Speaker 2: tell you some shit that happened like in the nineties

2637
02:12:07,360 --> 02:12:14,320
Speaker 2: so and actually before. So that was like just really

2638
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:17,920
Speaker 2: nice to hear. And also that that caller called me

2639
02:12:18,040 --> 02:12:21,200
Speaker 2: a girl. She was like, oh, that girl with.

2640
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:23,040
Speaker 1: The voicemail blah blah blah.

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02:12:23,080 --> 02:12:25,960
Speaker 2: I was like, girl, Wow, I haven't been called that

2642
02:12:26,120 --> 02:12:29,600
Speaker 2: in a really long time. So shout out to her

2643
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:32,840
Speaker 2: and to the listener who said I was cheating with

2644
02:12:32,920 --> 02:12:33,560
Speaker 2: six minutes.

2645
02:12:34,040 --> 02:12:34,640
Speaker 1: My bad.

2646
02:12:34,720 --> 02:12:38,920
Speaker 2: I did not realize that I had recorded for six minutes.

2647
02:12:39,600 --> 02:12:44,360
Speaker 2: I just was trying to get out to think about

2648
02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:47,040
Speaker 2: Karen at the funeral, the thing about not forgetting the

2649
02:12:47,080 --> 02:12:49,320
Speaker 2: three people I wanted to and I was not paying

2650
02:12:49,400 --> 02:12:50,320
Speaker 2: attention to the time.

2651
02:12:50,520 --> 02:12:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the time now.

2652
02:12:52,080 --> 02:12:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm a little over two minutes, so I don't want

2653
02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:59,640
Speaker 2: to cheat anymore. I just wanted to say thanks, and

2654
02:12:59,800 --> 02:13:04,960
Speaker 2: I probably will be responding to some of the show segments.

2655
02:13:04,360 --> 02:13:06,080
Speaker 1: But I will do it in an email.

2656
02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:10,000
Speaker 2: So thanks you guys. Love you guys, love the show.

2657
02:13:10,600 --> 02:13:13,760
Speaker 2: And yeah, I gotta work on that. Did we forget

2658
02:13:15,080 --> 02:13:15,880
Speaker 2: the girl or.

2659
02:13:15,880 --> 02:13:19,240
Speaker 1: The woman from Jane the Virgin?

2660
02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:23,000
Speaker 2: Okay, keeps out y'all, Love you guys, Bye.

2661
02:13:23,160 --> 02:13:24,920
Speaker 5: Bye, And yeah, you should do that.

2662
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:27,680
Speaker 4: I'm not joking. I think it'd be a great podcast too.

2663
02:13:28,760 --> 02:13:30,720
Speaker 4: And maybe that could be the solution for the email

2664
02:13:30,800 --> 02:13:35,760
Speaker 4: before you who was talking about the Mandela effect. Maybe

2665
02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:38,320
Speaker 4: you can anti Mandela effect and be like, no, that

2666
02:13:38,440 --> 02:13:39,120
Speaker 4: did happen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And the thing is, at least you know you're

2668
02:13:42,280 --> 02:13:45,360
Speaker 5: very understandable, because the thing is, when you guys right in,

2669
02:13:45,640 --> 02:13:47,840
Speaker 5: we have opinions and things that. No, we're always not

2670
02:13:47,880 --> 02:13:50,320
Speaker 5: going to agree on everything that y'all you know right

2671
02:13:50,400 --> 02:13:55,120
Speaker 5: in about So I appreciate you, you know, not because

2672
02:13:55,120 --> 02:13:59,000
Speaker 5: sometimes when when ne Or Rogers says something that somebody

2673
02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:00,880
Speaker 5: doesn't agree with, some times people take it as a

2674
02:14:00,920 --> 02:14:02,960
Speaker 5: personal attack. It's not a personal attack. It's just we

2675
02:14:03,040 --> 02:14:05,960
Speaker 5: just don't agree on this particular topic. And I'm just

2676
02:14:06,080 --> 02:14:10,960
Speaker 5: I'm glad that you listened, and I'm to the people

2677
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:12,080
Speaker 5: come in about you and I do.

2678
02:14:12,120 --> 02:14:13,800
Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea if that's something that

2679
02:14:13,840 --> 02:14:14,440
Speaker 1: you choose to do.

2680
02:14:15,240 --> 02:14:20,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and yeah, you know, uh, we put out opinions

2681
02:14:20,160 --> 02:14:22,760
Speaker 4: that I'm sure y'all disagree with. The feedback show is

2682
02:14:22,760 --> 02:14:26,880
Speaker 4: for that, you know, And I try not to take

2683
02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:30,320
Speaker 4: anything into a personal realm that's not personal already, but

2684
02:14:30,880 --> 02:14:33,400
Speaker 4: I'm human. We get passionate. I'm sure you are very

2685
02:14:33,400 --> 02:14:37,920
Speaker 4: passionate about uh, you know, whatever you wrote in about

2686
02:14:38,080 --> 02:14:40,640
Speaker 4: and so you know it's but it's not like some

2687
02:14:40,680 --> 02:14:42,280
Speaker 4: default like Ley wrote.

2688
02:14:42,080 --> 02:14:44,600
Speaker 1: In oh hell or not, you know, it's not baby.

2689
02:14:44,720 --> 02:14:47,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope people don't feel that way, but yeah,

2690
02:14:47,320 --> 02:14:49,160
Speaker 4: I do want people to know that we will one

2691
02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:51,840
Speaker 4: hundred percent keep it real. Like I don't want people

2692
02:14:51,840 --> 02:14:54,360
Speaker 4: writing up thinking that like we don't give a fuck

2693
02:14:54,400 --> 02:14:55,360
Speaker 4: and anything goes.

2694
02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:59,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, like that, I'm.

2695
02:14:59,000 --> 02:15:02,760
Speaker 4: Glad you understood or gate gate took a chance and

2696
02:15:03,200 --> 02:15:05,600
Speaker 4: submitted something else, because I don't want this to be

2697
02:15:05,680 --> 02:15:07,280
Speaker 4: the place of well we.

2698
02:15:07,280 --> 02:15:08,400
Speaker 5: Disagreed, that's it.

2699
02:15:08,480 --> 02:15:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not dictatorship, you know.

2700
02:15:10,280 --> 02:15:12,640
Speaker 4: I'm not spending every like the one woman I can't

2701
02:15:12,680 --> 02:15:14,560
Speaker 4: remember what was that was like, you know, I don't

2702
02:15:14,560 --> 02:15:16,480
Speaker 4: mess with trans people and she just kept writing in

2703
02:15:16,520 --> 02:15:17,080
Speaker 4: every week.

2704
02:15:17,320 --> 02:15:20,280
Speaker 5: I'm not doing that shit. I'm not Ezra Klein will not.

2705
02:15:20,760 --> 02:15:22,640
Speaker 5: You know. Most I got for you is a good

2706
02:15:22,760 --> 02:15:24,680
Speaker 5: like well you just got to work on.

2707
02:15:24,680 --> 02:15:26,800
Speaker 1: That good loss, a personal thing.

2708
02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:27,480
Speaker 5: But I'm not.

2709
02:15:27,680 --> 02:15:30,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not finn to be debating somebody's writes with

2710
02:15:30,360 --> 02:15:30,880
Speaker 4: you every week.

2711
02:15:30,920 --> 02:15:31,720
Speaker 5: But I don't think.

2712
02:15:31,880 --> 02:15:34,360
Speaker 4: I don't remember that being what you said, So I'm good,

2713
02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:38,160
Speaker 4: all right? Last one she wrote in again this time

2714
02:15:38,240 --> 02:15:40,880
Speaker 4: and write for him, hey riding?

2715
02:15:40,920 --> 02:15:42,720
Speaker 5: Can't writing written for him? Right?

2716
02:15:42,800 --> 02:15:43,160
Speaker 8: For him?

2717
02:15:43,280 --> 02:15:46,000
Speaker 5: What? And written for him? Hey riding?

2718
02:15:46,080 --> 02:15:48,480
Speaker 4: Karen, I really appreciate when you gave an in depth

2719
02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:52,120
Speaker 4: analysis ride like you did on Ezra Klin Town Coacht Conversation.

2720
02:15:52,200 --> 02:15:54,080
Speaker 4: I'm always interested in what coach has to say. But

2721
02:15:54,160 --> 02:15:57,240
Speaker 4: Klin is so himself that I thought I was skipping

2722
02:15:57,280 --> 02:15:59,600
Speaker 4: and just read transcripts for the outtakes. However, I may

2723
02:15:59,640 --> 02:16:01,880
Speaker 4: give it a go after hearing your critique, which was

2724
02:16:01,880 --> 02:16:05,200
Speaker 4: pretty spot on both of them, and your takeaways from

2725
02:16:05,200 --> 02:16:07,240
Speaker 4: the conversation like you and Karen. I used to listen

2726
02:16:07,280 --> 02:16:09,440
Speaker 4: to klin show mostly when Kamlo was running, But when

2727
02:16:09,440 --> 02:16:11,960
Speaker 4: that mofolk started Monday Morning Quarterback and the Reason she

2728
02:16:12,080 --> 02:16:14,800
Speaker 4: lost while also blaming Democrats as a whole, I started

2729
02:16:14,880 --> 02:16:17,040
Speaker 4: checking out. Then I noticed that all of his guests

2730
02:16:17,080 --> 02:16:19,600
Speaker 4: were white people, mostly men after the election as well.

2731
02:16:19,880 --> 02:16:21,760
Speaker 4: In fact, the only two people of color he had

2732
02:16:21,800 --> 02:16:23,640
Speaker 4: on when I was listening with some guy color who

2733
02:16:23,680 --> 02:16:26,040
Speaker 4: worked for Bernie, who was basically co signed all of

2734
02:16:26,080 --> 02:16:29,760
Speaker 4: Bernie's gripes and coats, who was talking about his latest book,

2735
02:16:29,960 --> 02:16:32,480
Speaker 4: the one where he talks about his books being banned

2736
02:16:32,560 --> 02:16:35,520
Speaker 4: here in South Carolina, his time in Senegal, and his

2737
02:16:35,600 --> 02:16:38,560
Speaker 4: time in Palestine and Israel. I guess which part they

2738
02:16:38,560 --> 02:16:41,480
Speaker 4: spent the whole show discussing. What really set me off

2739
02:16:41,560 --> 02:16:43,800
Speaker 4: was Klein was when he was pushing his own book

2740
02:16:43,840 --> 02:16:46,240
Speaker 4: called Abundance. I think where he and his co author

2741
02:16:46,240 --> 02:16:49,119
Speaker 4: basically said Democrats weren't creating enough housing and that's why

2742
02:16:49,120 --> 02:16:51,480
Speaker 4: they were losing. And that's when I legit said enough

2743
02:16:51,480 --> 02:16:52,000
Speaker 4: of this guy.

2744
02:16:52,280 --> 02:16:57,360
Speaker 5: Me done. And I haven't listened since. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2745
02:16:57,760 --> 02:16:58,720
Speaker 5: it's what it is.

2746
02:16:58,600 --> 02:17:02,360
Speaker 4: You know, And I think in his mind and it's

2747
02:17:02,400 --> 02:17:04,760
Speaker 4: got to be an ego thing. He feels like that's

2748
02:17:04,840 --> 02:17:06,959
Speaker 4: drawing a line and you're taking me out of the party.

2749
02:17:07,040 --> 02:17:09,959
Speaker 4: It's like, motherfucker, I don't have to listen to everybody

2750
02:17:09,959 --> 02:17:12,400
Speaker 4: that votes the same as me. We not always gonna

2751
02:17:12,400 --> 02:17:15,200
Speaker 4: be in lockstep. And that's okay. Plenty of other shit

2752
02:17:15,280 --> 02:17:17,000
Speaker 4: to listen to. Do you listen to everything?

2753
02:17:17,760 --> 02:17:17,959
Speaker 7: You know?

2754
02:17:18,080 --> 02:17:22,280
Speaker 5: Have you heard this podcast? No? You you're an opinion giver.

2755
02:17:22,520 --> 02:17:25,000
Speaker 5: Other people give opinions based off your opinions. You're putting

2756
02:17:25,000 --> 02:17:28,359
Speaker 5: it out there. It is not No one is beholden

2757
02:17:28,640 --> 02:17:32,200
Speaker 5: to be gracious to you about it. You know, it

2758
02:17:32,240 --> 02:17:35,280
Speaker 5: is what it is. You can respond in kind, but

2759
02:17:35,640 --> 02:17:39,600
Speaker 5: just understand that, like the job isn't one of universal approval.

2760
02:17:39,640 --> 02:17:43,360
Speaker 5: You're not the politician you're supposed to be covering Itian

2761
02:17:44,360 --> 02:17:46,039
Speaker 5: But he kept saying we like he was part of

2762
02:17:46,040 --> 02:17:50,120
Speaker 5: the fucking democratic like election apparatus, and maybe that's what

2763
02:17:50,200 --> 02:17:52,840
Speaker 5: he really envy about Charlie Kirk, like, maybe that's really

2764
02:17:53,000 --> 02:17:56,200
Speaker 5: his thing. Is I like that he was able to

2765
02:17:56,280 --> 02:17:59,080
Speaker 5: get his own people into the Trump administration. That's what

2766
02:17:59,120 --> 02:17:59,720
Speaker 5: I want to do.

2767
02:18:00,800 --> 02:18:03,360
Speaker 4: And maybe that's where his envy truly is and not

2768
02:18:03,680 --> 02:18:05,560
Speaker 4: and that's why he thinks he did things the right

2769
02:18:05,560 --> 02:18:07,039
Speaker 4: way regardless of how it turned out.

2770
02:18:07,120 --> 02:18:10,720
Speaker 1: Oh, it's something I wanted to bring up for the

2771
02:18:10,760 --> 02:18:14,080
Speaker 1: person that wrote in and said just because I didn't

2772
02:18:14,080 --> 02:18:14,879
Speaker 1: listen to the show.

2773
02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:18,560
Speaker 4: Oh now, I did not read their comment, and I

2774
02:18:18,600 --> 02:18:21,600
Speaker 4: did hide them from the YouTube channel on purpose because

2775
02:18:21,600 --> 02:18:25,520
Speaker 4: I knew that comment would just be another one of

2776
02:18:25,560 --> 02:18:31,000
Speaker 4: these like asshole comments. But but but I just wanted

2777
02:18:31,040 --> 02:18:32,520
Speaker 4: to let you know. The reason I didn't read it

2778
02:18:32,560 --> 02:18:34,600
Speaker 4: was because I was just like, oh, care, probably it's

2779
02:18:34,680 --> 02:18:37,800
Speaker 4: just why give that person energy or whatever.

2780
02:18:38,120 --> 02:18:40,720
Speaker 5: But if you want to respond, I don't mind. I

2781
02:18:40,760 --> 02:18:41,720
Speaker 5: just want you to. I didn't.

2782
02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:44,039
Speaker 4: I didn't get rid of the comment hoping you wouldn't

2783
02:18:44,080 --> 02:18:45,520
Speaker 4: bring it up. I got rid of it because I

2784
02:18:45,520 --> 02:18:47,520
Speaker 4: was like, it's a garbage comment. You might as well

2785
02:18:47,600 --> 02:18:50,200
Speaker 4: just ask. You know, I've never listened to a day

2786
02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:54,240
Speaker 4: of fucking Charlie Kirk's whole shit I don't like.

2787
02:18:54,360 --> 02:18:56,959
Speaker 5: Can you imagine some well you didn't read all his

2788
02:18:57,600 --> 02:18:58,840
Speaker 5: I got to just bitch.

2789
02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:01,280
Speaker 4: I think I'm good Aerin on the side of I

2790
02:19:01,280 --> 02:19:02,800
Speaker 4: don't need to hear more of this, but go ahead.

2791
02:19:03,040 --> 02:19:06,039
Speaker 5: No, I'm commenting just because of the conversation we just

2792
02:19:06,080 --> 02:19:07,880
Speaker 5: had for that person that says that I didn't listen

2793
02:19:07,959 --> 02:19:10,920
Speaker 5: to the podcast, so I shouldn't have an opinion. When

2794
02:19:10,920 --> 02:19:13,680
Speaker 5: we was talking, I said something that was not valid

2795
02:19:13,760 --> 02:19:16,000
Speaker 5: on the show, and Roger corrected me because he did

2796
02:19:16,160 --> 02:19:18,800
Speaker 5: listen to the show and he put out the facts

2797
02:19:18,800 --> 02:19:21,520
Speaker 5: that that was not a valid thing. So you know,

2798
02:19:22,200 --> 02:19:24,760
Speaker 5: I can voice opinions and be wrong because and the

2799
02:19:24,800 --> 02:19:26,360
Speaker 5: thing is a lot of people consume a lot of

2800
02:19:26,400 --> 02:19:27,800
Speaker 5: shit and have a lot of opinions that a lot

2801
02:19:27,800 --> 02:19:29,960
Speaker 5: of shit to date that they don't actually listen to,

2802
02:19:30,520 --> 02:19:33,040
Speaker 5: you know, because people have opinions, and we do a show,

2803
02:19:33,080 --> 02:19:34,760
Speaker 5: and we do a show together, and I'm allowed to

2804
02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:37,400
Speaker 5: voice my opinion. Yeah, of course. And that's a world

2805
02:19:37,440 --> 02:19:39,960
Speaker 5: where I would have not listened to it and still

2806
02:19:39,959 --> 02:19:43,119
Speaker 5: would have wanted to talk about it, right Like, I don't. Okay,

2807
02:19:43,400 --> 02:19:45,240
Speaker 5: we like as long as we're upfront about it.

2808
02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:47,760
Speaker 4: I don't even know what the gripe would be, right, Like, Hey,

2809
02:19:47,840 --> 02:19:49,440
Speaker 4: I didn't listen to this. If you want to disregard

2810
02:19:49,560 --> 02:19:52,200
Speaker 4: my opinion, you do it. The onus is on you. Listener.

2811
02:19:52,920 --> 02:19:55,960
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, as the amount of information that I have,

2812
02:19:56,680 --> 02:19:59,120
Speaker 4: I didn't listen to the whole thing. I'm giving my

2813
02:19:59,160 --> 02:20:02,040
Speaker 4: opinion anyway, I'm right in like you should have listened. Well,

2814
02:20:02,160 --> 02:20:03,760
Speaker 4: get a fucking time machine, bitch.

2815
02:20:03,920 --> 02:20:05,039
Speaker 5: I'm not going.

2816
02:20:04,840 --> 02:20:06,880
Speaker 1: Back and I'm not going to listen to it.

2817
02:20:06,959 --> 02:20:09,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm surprised. You know, it's funny because you know,

2818
02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:12,039
Speaker 5: and this is the reason we stopped reading those emails,

2819
02:20:13,480 --> 02:20:17,680
Speaker 5: because if in another world where you don't say anything

2820
02:20:17,720 --> 02:20:19,600
Speaker 5: the whole time because you're like I just didn't listen,

2821
02:20:19,680 --> 02:20:22,640
Speaker 5: then people go, well, Karen didn't even say anything. Rogers

2822
02:20:22,640 --> 02:20:24,920
Speaker 5: talked the whole fucking time. She didn't even give it

2823
02:20:25,000 --> 02:20:28,600
Speaker 5: a pine, like, I want to hear Karen's opinion on things. Okay,

2824
02:20:28,640 --> 02:20:30,800
Speaker 5: you got that. Let's say we do this thing.

2825
02:20:30,840 --> 02:20:34,080
Speaker 4: I don't correct you. Someone right saying Karen was wrong.

2826
02:20:34,240 --> 02:20:36,400
Speaker 4: She didn't listen and that's why she was wrong, and

2827
02:20:36,440 --> 02:20:38,560
Speaker 4: you should have told her that she did it wrong.

2828
02:20:38,680 --> 02:20:41,600
Speaker 5: Right, Okay, I correct you. Normally we get another motherfucking

2829
02:20:41,640 --> 02:20:44,680
Speaker 5: sensitive ass motherfucker out there to write an email. Ron,

2830
02:20:45,160 --> 02:20:47,879
Speaker 5: you should not be correcting Karen. Just let us be

2831
02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:49,600
Speaker 5: wrong and say what she wanted to say.

2832
02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:54,160
Speaker 1: Hey, man, we can't win. Y'all do it and that's hilarious.

2833
02:20:54,480 --> 02:20:55,200
Speaker 1: You do it.

2834
02:20:55,800 --> 02:21:00,000
Speaker 5: That's the only thing I got. Go be better than us, then, yes, please,

2835
02:21:00,040 --> 02:21:02,000
Speaker 5: He's gonna be better than us. That's all I ask,

2836
02:21:02,879 --> 02:21:04,680
Speaker 5: you know, because this is a bit, you know, a

2837
02:21:04,720 --> 02:21:07,640
Speaker 5: lot of hard work. So I you know, go out

2838
02:21:07,680 --> 02:21:09,720
Speaker 5: there and do a much better job to catch out

2839
02:21:09,760 --> 02:21:11,879
Speaker 5: the errors. Be the change you want to see in

2840
02:21:11,920 --> 02:21:12,200
Speaker 5: the world.

2841
02:21:12,280 --> 02:21:14,160
Speaker 4: Ain't got the truth, And when you get more than

2842
02:21:14,400 --> 02:21:17,440
Speaker 4: five people listening, then you'll start to feel the pressure

2843
02:21:17,440 --> 02:21:19,080
Speaker 4: of like, oh, I can't be perfect.

2844
02:21:19,120 --> 02:21:23,199
Speaker 5: I'm a person. I wish you had stayed in Brooklyn

2845
02:21:23,200 --> 02:21:25,160
Speaker 5: when you were working in New York because then you

2846
02:21:25,160 --> 02:21:27,240
Speaker 5: would have had a clear understanding of what I'm about

2847
02:21:27,280 --> 02:21:30,279
Speaker 5: to say. Ezra Klein is so fucking Carroll's Garden Park Slope.

2848
02:21:30,840 --> 02:21:34,640
Speaker 5: These are the two neighborhoods that have been solidly gentrified

2849
02:21:34,680 --> 02:21:38,039
Speaker 5: for decades. He's the typical of the most recent resident

2850
02:21:38,120 --> 02:21:40,320
Speaker 5: to Carroll Garden, who thinks he's progressive but moves it

2851
02:21:40,360 --> 02:21:42,120
Speaker 5: to the neighborhood that takes over to public school of

2852
02:21:42,160 --> 02:21:44,280
Speaker 5: black and brown kids to make it better, until suddenly

2853
02:21:44,280 --> 02:21:46,760
Speaker 5: it's a school for their kids and the others disappear.

2854
02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:51,280
Speaker 5: Check out the podcast Nice White Parents. Ezra Klein is

2855
02:21:51,280 --> 02:21:54,560
Speaker 5: a political podcasting gatekeeper who sees the importance of someone

2856
02:21:54,600 --> 02:21:56,640
Speaker 5: like Charlie Kirk, but not the importance in black women

2857
02:21:56,640 --> 02:21:59,680
Speaker 5: who are the base of the Democratic Party period. Yeah,

2858
02:21:59,840 --> 02:22:00,840
Speaker 5: it is telling.

2859
02:22:01,120 --> 02:22:03,080
Speaker 4: Like I said, I stopped listening, but even at the

2860
02:22:03,120 --> 02:22:07,280
Speaker 4: time I did listening, did listen. It's very telling because

2861
02:22:07,879 --> 02:22:10,360
Speaker 4: when you're the gatekeeper of your own podcast, you already

2862
02:22:10,640 --> 02:22:12,000
Speaker 4: I mean, look, we're podcasting.

2863
02:22:12,560 --> 02:22:14,440
Speaker 5: We pick and choose.

2864
02:22:14,560 --> 02:22:17,080
Speaker 4: This is not a public platform. Just because you write

2865
02:22:17,080 --> 02:22:19,200
Speaker 4: me an email, can I be on your show? There's

2866
02:22:19,240 --> 02:22:22,039
Speaker 4: a very small chance that you're getting on our show.

2867
02:22:22,320 --> 02:22:22,840
Speaker 5: Very little.

2868
02:22:22,959 --> 02:22:26,560
Speaker 4: Honestly, we reject way more people than we accept cause

2869
02:22:26,600 --> 02:22:29,000
Speaker 4: I don't know you, and I don't necessarily want to

2870
02:22:29,040 --> 02:22:31,040
Speaker 4: do The toinn of work I want to do on

2871
02:22:31,080 --> 02:22:33,039
Speaker 4: this show is the kind of work we want to do.

2872
02:22:33,800 --> 02:22:36,840
Speaker 5: It's not like, oh yeah, this is the blackout. Tips

2873
02:22:36,879 --> 02:22:38,840
Speaker 5: for everybody it's the blackout tips for Rod and Karen

2874
02:22:38,840 --> 02:22:41,000
Speaker 5: first and foremost. Ain't that's the truth. We'll through every

2875
02:22:41,000 --> 02:22:43,640
Speaker 5: episode with nobody if we want to, we show and

2876
02:22:43,720 --> 02:22:44,720
Speaker 5: we could so.

2877
02:22:44,879 --> 02:22:47,480
Speaker 4: My point being as a creator, I understand that he

2878
02:22:47,879 --> 02:22:49,960
Speaker 4: keeps his platform. Now it's the New York Times. I'm

2879
02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:52,800
Speaker 4: sure blah blah blah. They probably got a bigger reach.

2880
02:22:52,879 --> 02:22:55,480
Speaker 4: He probably could get anyone just about to be on

2881
02:22:55,520 --> 02:22:57,920
Speaker 4: this show if he wanted to. But my point is

2882
02:22:58,760 --> 02:23:03,440
Speaker 4: it hell's a story who he has on, you know,

2883
02:23:03,640 --> 02:23:06,160
Speaker 4: and not to be too cynical, but I'm about to

2884
02:23:06,200 --> 02:23:08,880
Speaker 4: be too cynical, you know, Tan Coast.

2885
02:23:08,879 --> 02:23:11,400
Speaker 5: If you listening, turn this off, Okay, to skip past

2886
02:23:11,640 --> 02:23:13,240
Speaker 5: like five. Matter of fact, this is about to be

2887
02:23:13,240 --> 02:23:14,720
Speaker 5: the end of the shew, so just go to the

2888
02:23:14,720 --> 02:23:19,520
Speaker 5: next episode. I don't know that that man is Ton

2889
02:23:19,520 --> 02:23:20,760
Speaker 5: of Hasie's friend.

2890
02:23:21,480 --> 02:23:26,480
Speaker 4: I don't know that cause it to me, I don't

2891
02:23:27,600 --> 02:23:30,840
Speaker 4: I don't know what kind of person has the platform

2892
02:23:30,959 --> 02:23:32,959
Speaker 4: like that, And it's just a more of a problem.

2893
02:23:32,640 --> 02:23:33,480
Speaker 5: With the industry.

2894
02:23:33,520 --> 02:23:36,840
Speaker 4: But there are very few people that have a platform

2895
02:23:37,000 --> 02:23:41,880
Speaker 4: that feel like a platform is somebody that would disagree

2896
02:23:41,879 --> 02:23:44,360
Speaker 4: with them, which he to his credit, he did with coach.

2897
02:23:44,400 --> 02:23:45,720
Speaker 5: I thought that was actually.

2898
02:23:46,120 --> 02:23:49,960
Speaker 4: Putting that out was not just risky, but also some

2899
02:23:50,120 --> 02:23:52,840
Speaker 4: could argue almost foolish because how many people walked out

2900
02:23:52,840 --> 02:23:55,560
Speaker 4: of that, Like, God damn, that was a one hour

2901
02:23:55,600 --> 02:24:01,800
Speaker 4: of visceration, right, But also like the steadfastness of not

2902
02:24:02,040 --> 02:24:05,320
Speaker 4: really listening to the dude is not the flex that

2903
02:24:05,440 --> 02:24:07,840
Speaker 4: I think he thinks it is. And so even if

2904
02:24:07,879 --> 02:24:12,800
Speaker 4: he opened this platform to have more black women, which

2905
02:24:13,840 --> 02:24:17,280
Speaker 4: would be awesome, I don't know that, Like the idea

2906
02:24:17,320 --> 02:24:19,120
Speaker 4: would be awesome, I don't know that the execution would

2907
02:24:19,160 --> 02:24:21,920
Speaker 4: be awesome because it just turns into a dude not

2908
02:24:22,040 --> 02:24:25,879
Speaker 4: listening to black women either. I won't say the name

2909
02:24:25,920 --> 02:24:27,840
Speaker 4: of the podcast with those that have been listening to

2910
02:24:27,879 --> 02:24:29,640
Speaker 4: a long time, y'all already know the name of the

2911
02:24:29,680 --> 02:24:31,920
Speaker 4: podcast I'm talking about. I just don't want to bring

2912
02:24:31,959 --> 02:24:34,920
Speaker 4: it up because I'm not trying to be shady. It's

2913
02:24:34,920 --> 02:24:36,359
Speaker 4: about the bigger point.

2914
02:24:36,520 --> 02:24:39,400
Speaker 5: But there was a podcast I listened to during the

2915
02:24:39,440 --> 02:24:45,520
Speaker 5: election cycle for Hillary Clinton versus Trump, and the podcaster

2916
02:24:46,280 --> 02:24:49,280
Speaker 5: was a dude, and he had a bunch of black

2917
02:24:49,320 --> 02:24:51,800
Speaker 5: women that would be co hosts that sometimes would rotate,

2918
02:24:51,920 --> 02:24:55,640
Speaker 5: sometimes be the same people, but it was almost like

2919
02:24:56,040 --> 02:24:59,320
Speaker 5: typically this dude and then like a black woman that

2920
02:24:59,480 --> 02:25:02,320
Speaker 5: was basically dynamic whoever the black woman will.

2921
02:25:02,200 --> 02:25:02,680
Speaker 8: Happen to be.

2922
02:25:03,680 --> 02:25:06,640
Speaker 4: And he spent basically a better part of a year

2923
02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:10,440
Speaker 4: or two just shitting on Hillary Clinton from the second

2924
02:25:10,480 --> 02:25:13,720
Speaker 4: she was announced to the fucking election, and it was

2925
02:25:13,760 --> 02:25:16,360
Speaker 4: a lot of reasons why he refused to vote for her.

2926
02:25:16,879 --> 02:25:18,760
Speaker 4: It was a lot of reasons why she needed to

2927
02:25:18,800 --> 02:25:22,200
Speaker 4: earn the vote and if not, she was gonna lose,

2928
02:25:22,760 --> 02:25:24,920
Speaker 4: and why he didn't need to even vote because he

2929
02:25:25,000 --> 02:25:27,200
Speaker 4: lived in a place where it was blue, so if

2930
02:25:27,240 --> 02:25:30,720
Speaker 4: he voted, it didn't matter. And a lot of the

2931
02:25:30,760 --> 02:25:33,200
Speaker 4: people that listening showed were black women who were very

2932
02:25:33,200 --> 02:25:38,560
Speaker 4: politically inclined, politically active though, people you're shouting down, disagreeing with,

2933
02:25:38,720 --> 02:25:43,720
Speaker 4: refusing to listen to every single episode for months on end,

2934
02:25:44,000 --> 02:25:48,480
Speaker 4: were black women who were politically active, informed, intelligent black women,

2935
02:25:48,720 --> 02:25:52,000
Speaker 4: people you put on that step on that platform because

2936
02:25:52,040 --> 02:25:57,680
Speaker 4: they were so well respected, reason and smart, and there

2937
02:25:57,760 --> 02:26:00,440
Speaker 4: was never a thing they could say that could move

2938
02:26:00,520 --> 02:26:04,600
Speaker 4: you in any way, not even an inch. And when

2939
02:26:04,840 --> 02:26:09,240
Speaker 4: you listen to somebody do that for months and it's

2940
02:26:09,280 --> 02:26:15,240
Speaker 4: not necessarily adversarial, meaning they're not yelling they're not or

2941
02:26:15,280 --> 02:26:18,600
Speaker 4: sometimes but not, you know, like it's not disrespectful.

2942
02:26:17,800 --> 02:26:20,960
Speaker 5: And like fuck you, you're dumb, motherfucker. It's not like that.

2943
02:26:21,040 --> 02:26:25,040
Speaker 4: It's just you could basically be crying begging me, like

2944
02:26:25,200 --> 02:26:26,600
Speaker 4: you have to wake up.

2945
02:26:26,680 --> 02:26:30,800
Speaker 5: This is a big deal. She could lose and it's

2946
02:26:30,879 --> 02:26:33,320
Speaker 5: and part of this is that we need to ensure

2947
02:26:33,400 --> 02:26:36,680
Speaker 5: that that Trump has not come to power, and he

2948
02:26:36,720 --> 02:26:38,800
Speaker 5: would just basically be like, well, that's him, you know,

2949
02:26:38,920 --> 02:26:41,040
Speaker 5: like she need to do better job, she need to do.

2950
02:26:41,200 --> 02:26:44,000
Speaker 5: It's like the only thing, by the amount of critiques

2951
02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:45,879
Speaker 5: by the end, the only thing Hillary Clinton could have

2952
02:26:45,879 --> 02:26:48,879
Speaker 5: done is not be Hillary Clinton. There was literally nothing

2953
02:26:49,280 --> 02:26:52,120
Speaker 5: that she need a time machine to what she would

2954
02:26:52,120 --> 02:26:53,400
Speaker 5: not even be Hillary Clinton.

2955
02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:55,200
Speaker 4: That's the only way this guy was going to vote

2956
02:26:55,240 --> 02:26:58,080
Speaker 4: for her. And this is a pretty liberal, progressive show.

2957
02:26:59,200 --> 02:27:05,280
Speaker 4: And I don't know that Ezra Kleine would be any different.

2958
02:27:05,320 --> 02:27:07,320
Speaker 4: I feel like he'd have a black woman on, but

2959
02:27:07,400 --> 02:27:08,840
Speaker 4: he's gonna do what he did with Coach.

2960
02:27:08,920 --> 02:27:10,080
Speaker 5: He gonna like.

2961
02:27:11,640 --> 02:27:14,360
Speaker 4: Those black women aren't there because I think he doesn't

2962
02:27:14,360 --> 02:27:17,959
Speaker 4: truly value their opinions. And I don't know that he

2963
02:27:18,040 --> 02:27:19,480
Speaker 4: truly values Coach's opinion.

2964
02:27:19,760 --> 02:27:21,119
Speaker 5: Is what I'm like, it.

2965
02:27:21,160 --> 02:27:24,800
Speaker 4: Felt very like you're here for the objects of at

2966
02:27:24,840 --> 02:27:27,879
Speaker 4: least you were here, and the conversation is important, but

2967
02:27:28,040 --> 02:27:33,720
Speaker 4: not an actual conversion of thought is important. And that's

2968
02:27:33,760 --> 02:27:36,400
Speaker 4: what that podcast that I was talking about earlier ended

2969
02:27:36,480 --> 02:27:39,880
Speaker 4: up feeling like, it's like his brother who has black

2970
02:27:39,920 --> 02:27:42,280
Speaker 4: women there so he can say I had him here,

2971
02:27:43,720 --> 02:27:44,920
Speaker 4: like they here.

2972
02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:46,400
Speaker 5: It's like, well, are you listening to him?

2973
02:27:46,480 --> 02:27:46,560
Speaker 1: Not?

2974
02:27:46,720 --> 02:27:51,520
Speaker 5: Really? Can they change your mind? Impossible? You know, it's like, oh, well, damn.

2975
02:27:51,920 --> 02:27:54,920
Speaker 5: Do you wonder why people don't feel good about this? Anyway?

2976
02:27:56,280 --> 02:28:00,000
Speaker 4: She goes on to say he could have had Jasmine Crockett,

2977
02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:04,760
Speaker 4: Katanji Brown Jackson, or Texas State Representative Nicole Collier, who

2978
02:28:04,879 --> 02:28:07,120
Speaker 4: was locked in the Texas State Capitol for refusing to

2979
02:28:07,160 --> 02:28:09,800
Speaker 4: sign the paper saying she would comply with the directors

2980
02:28:09,800 --> 02:28:12,160
Speaker 4: of the permission slip from the Republicans on his show

2981
02:28:12,240 --> 02:28:12,760
Speaker 4: to discuss a.

2982
02:28:12,800 --> 02:28:13,480
Speaker 5: Number of topics.

2983
02:28:13,480 --> 02:28:15,320
Speaker 4: There are any number of black women he could have

2984
02:28:15,560 --> 02:28:17,879
Speaker 4: on the show, and there's been nothing but the monotone

2985
02:28:17,959 --> 02:28:20,879
Speaker 4: dromes or white men just like him, born and very unprogressive.

2986
02:28:21,840 --> 02:28:22,840
Speaker 5: Well, the other thing.

2987
02:28:22,760 --> 02:28:26,120
Speaker 4: I would add to my guess is that if a

2988
02:28:26,160 --> 02:28:28,040
Speaker 4: guy like that does reach out to black women, it

2989
02:28:28,080 --> 02:28:31,360
Speaker 4: won't be the black women that you named. No, So

2990
02:28:31,680 --> 02:28:33,800
Speaker 4: if he did, it would end up being like I said,

2991
02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:36,520
Speaker 4: probably they come on and then he basically don't listen,

2992
02:28:36,600 --> 02:28:38,480
Speaker 4: or he pretend to be cool and then they leave

2993
02:28:38,520 --> 02:28:41,640
Speaker 4: and he go back to being him, or he brings

2994
02:28:41,680 --> 02:28:45,280
Speaker 4: on your Brianna that I forget her last name, but

2995
02:28:45,320 --> 02:28:47,199
Speaker 4: that that woman who.

2996
02:28:48,480 --> 02:28:49,480
Speaker 5: Brianna enjoyed something.

2997
02:28:49,480 --> 02:28:51,640
Speaker 4: But the woman who was like a burning person then

2998
02:28:51,680 --> 02:28:56,039
Speaker 4: went so progressive and extremists that she basically ended up

2999
02:28:56,040 --> 02:28:59,320
Speaker 4: being like a Republican who said she's a progressive, Like

3000
02:29:00,160 --> 02:29:02,920
Speaker 4: I think these guys select the people on that platform,

3001
02:29:03,000 --> 02:29:05,280
Speaker 4: is my point, the same way we do, you know.

3002
02:29:05,600 --> 02:29:08,720
Speaker 4: So the reason you're not gonna hear certain opinions on

3003
02:29:08,760 --> 02:29:10,879
Speaker 4: our show is because I'm pretty sure we don't respect

3004
02:29:10,920 --> 02:29:14,080
Speaker 4: them and wouldn't allow them on our show. So unless

3005
02:29:14,080 --> 02:29:16,240
Speaker 4: somebody wants to surprise us with opinion.

3006
02:29:16,080 --> 02:29:19,280
Speaker 5: We'll be a surprise and it will basically make you

3007
02:29:19,400 --> 02:29:22,600
Speaker 5: hear that record scratch what's happening now?

3008
02:29:22,680 --> 02:29:25,120
Speaker 4: So I imagine that he's not gonna just have people on

3009
02:29:25,200 --> 02:29:32,720
Speaker 4: there that have the ability and the wherewithal to stand

3010
02:29:32,760 --> 02:29:34,400
Speaker 4: in his face and be like this is where you

3011
02:29:34,440 --> 02:29:34,959
Speaker 4: fucked up.

3012
02:29:35,080 --> 02:29:38,120
Speaker 5: He don't want to deal with that. That mean that

3013
02:29:38,240 --> 02:29:41,440
Speaker 5: means the conversation. You don't want to have that conversation,

3014
02:29:41,560 --> 02:29:44,960
Speaker 5: and the people that listen to him probably don't want

3015
02:29:44,959 --> 02:29:47,039
Speaker 5: to see him have that conversation, agreed, because it makes

3016
02:29:47,080 --> 02:29:49,520
Speaker 5: everybody all of a sudden, everybody feels uncomfortable.

3017
02:29:49,760 --> 02:29:53,959
Speaker 4: Right anyway, I'm mad, So I want to stop talking politics.

3018
02:29:56,000 --> 02:29:58,240
Speaker 1: It's always one hundred right.

3019
02:29:58,400 --> 02:30:04,240
Speaker 5: I appreciate it, Lea, thank you, Lee appreciate it. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 5: And what's what's funny is that like Lee listened to Klein.

3021
02:30:08,360 --> 02:30:09,800
Speaker 5: Leely was a fan of Cline.

3022
02:30:11,520 --> 02:30:14,039
Speaker 4: Klein was one of the main drivers of Biden. Shouldn't

3023
02:30:14,080 --> 02:30:16,440
Speaker 4: have run that second time? You wrote it into us

3024
02:30:16,440 --> 02:30:18,080
Speaker 4: to be like he shouldn't have run that second time,

3025
02:30:18,160 --> 02:30:20,840
Speaker 4: y'all was kind of can y'all must have been at

3026
02:30:20,920 --> 02:30:25,920
Speaker 4: least some way ideologically aligned at that point. And I'm

3027
02:30:25,920 --> 02:30:28,160
Speaker 4: not trying to dunk on you. I really just feel

3028
02:30:28,160 --> 02:30:33,119
Speaker 4: this way. I feel like Klein proved my point about what.

3029
02:30:33,000 --> 02:30:35,200
Speaker 5: I was saying. Like he will say he proved his

3030
02:30:35,240 --> 02:30:38,160
Speaker 5: point they shouldn't have ran Biden. I't think he's proven

3031
02:30:38,280 --> 02:30:39,680
Speaker 5: my point. Look at who he.

3032
02:30:39,680 --> 02:30:43,160
Speaker 4: Has become in the loss. Look at how you can't

3033
02:30:43,200 --> 02:30:44,200
Speaker 4: listen to him anymore.

3034
02:30:44,879 --> 02:30:48,600
Speaker 5: The people that were propagating that idea really did not

3035
02:30:48,760 --> 02:30:52,359
Speaker 5: know what the fuck they were talking about. Because I said,

3036
02:30:53,160 --> 02:30:58,560
Speaker 5: standing behind Biden and then standing behind Kamala was a

3037
02:30:58,600 --> 02:31:02,320
Speaker 5: sign of we're to fight. It's not about it's not

3038
02:31:02,400 --> 02:31:04,879
Speaker 5: about them being perfect or the best candidate. It's I'm

3039
02:31:04,879 --> 02:31:06,360
Speaker 5: not giving ground to you.

3040
02:31:06,680 --> 02:31:07,199
Speaker 1: I can't.

3041
02:31:07,600 --> 02:31:10,119
Speaker 5: And now, in the wake of it, what's the first

3042
02:31:10,120 --> 02:31:12,400
Speaker 5: solution he's had for the Democratic Party?

3043
02:31:12,680 --> 02:31:16,080
Speaker 4: Let's give ground on all this stuff. So you not

3044
02:31:16,280 --> 02:31:19,080
Speaker 4: bonding for not being progressive enough. You knocked Harris for

3045
02:31:19,160 --> 02:31:21,959
Speaker 4: not being progressive enough. You not Democrats because they don't

3046
02:31:22,000 --> 02:31:23,800
Speaker 4: they're not progressive, they don't want it enough.

3047
02:31:23,840 --> 02:31:27,240
Speaker 5: Their messages is strong enough. And then your solution is,

3048
02:31:28,040 --> 02:31:30,080
Speaker 5: let's soften the message so we can get Charlie Kirk

3049
02:31:30,080 --> 02:31:33,720
Speaker 5: in here. That's I knew that would happen. And that's

3050
02:31:33,760 --> 02:31:37,920
Speaker 5: what I was upset about with the suggestion of like Biden,

3051
02:31:37,959 --> 02:31:41,720
Speaker 5: we can't run him, he shouldn't run my suggestion, I

3052
02:31:41,720 --> 02:31:44,280
Speaker 5: guess I was more offended at the idea that these

3053
02:31:44,320 --> 02:31:47,920
Speaker 5: weak ass niggas was sitting up here trying to make

3054
02:31:47,959 --> 02:31:50,080
Speaker 5: it somebody else fault that they some weak ass niggas.

3055
02:31:50,680 --> 02:31:54,280
Speaker 5: Everybody else understood the assignment. I know how to vote.

3056
02:31:54,480 --> 02:31:56,720
Speaker 4: You knew how to vote, caring you how to vote.

3057
02:31:56,920 --> 02:31:58,440
Speaker 4: If it would have been bidden, I would have voted

3058
02:31:58,520 --> 02:31:59,039
Speaker 4: the same way.

3059
02:31:59,240 --> 02:31:59,480
Speaker 5: Yep.

3060
02:31:59,640 --> 02:32:02,400
Speaker 1: An whoever the Democratic person was, that's who I was

3061
02:32:02,400 --> 02:32:03,040
Speaker 1: gonna vote for.

3062
02:32:03,200 --> 02:32:05,760
Speaker 4: I knew they wouldn't understand the assignment, and the lesson

3063
02:32:05,800 --> 02:32:08,320
Speaker 4: they took from it is let's go get some Charlie Kirks.

3064
02:32:08,360 --> 02:32:11,920
Speaker 5: All right, y'all. That's it with no show tomorrow. Thanks

3065
02:32:11,920 --> 02:32:17,400
Speaker 5: for listening. We'll be back possibly throughout the week. Also

3066
02:32:17,440 --> 02:32:18,959
Speaker 5: could be a good time to take a week off

3067
02:32:18,959 --> 02:32:21,680
Speaker 5: because so much news is happening. I can't keep up

3068
02:32:23,080 --> 02:32:28,840
Speaker 5: a deal with all this. I'm so tired news news.

3069
02:32:28,879 --> 02:32:32,080
Speaker 5: Gonna just keep having it. All right, y'all, We'll talk

3070
02:32:32,120 --> 02:32:35,400
Speaker 5: to you later. Until next time, I love you.