1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hey, lady, is doctor dim here. If you like this 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: show and you want to make your own, let me 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: tell you about the free platform Anchor. It's a creation 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: tool that allows you to record and edit your podcast 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: right from your phone or computer. You can add songs 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: from Spotify and create any type of content that you 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: are looking for. 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Well, that's not 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 2: how it always works, right. 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: There's also a sense of well, how do I come 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: out of this? So it's not just kind of leaving 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: the listener just kind of waiting in the wings or 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: hanging in the balance of well, I don't know what 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 3: to do next. I'm just gonna sit and wallow. No, 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: it talks to us, the music speaks to us about Okay, 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: well I'm gonna feel the feelings. Welcome to her Space, 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: a podcast dedicated to uplifting women like you. We're your hosts, 26 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 3: Doctor Dominique Brussard, a college professor and psychologist. 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 2: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 30 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: fibroids to fake friends and create a safe space where 31 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: black women can just be. 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: Outright a little something different for us. For our quote 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: of the day, music is a world within itself. It's 34 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: a language we all understand. Who do we think that 35 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: quote is by? If you are really into music, then 36 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: you know already that's Stevie Wonder. And in today's episode, 37 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: as we dive into Black Music Month, we are going 38 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: to talk about music. And if you've been rocking with 39 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 3: us for a while, you know that we have quoted 40 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: music lyrics or song lyrics multiple times in a variety 41 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: of episodes for a variety of reasons. And what we 42 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: want to do today is talk about the influence of 43 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 3: music in our lives. How music can be that thing 44 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: that you go to for a breakup, for a celebration, 45 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: or just to feel good. So, lady, are we ready? Ladies? 46 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: Are we ready? All right, let's to dive on in. So, dom, 47 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: I want to know what does music mean in your household? 48 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: Growing up, music had a variety of different meanings in 49 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: my household. So, and I think it depends on the 50 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 3: perspective of the person who you ask in my household, right, interesting, 51 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: So my mom did not like to play current music. 52 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: And let me not say, let me back up, let 53 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: me not say she didn't like to play Her preference 54 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: was to play Prince. That was her favorite artist, right, 55 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: And she would play Prince and then she would listen 56 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: to other artists like Al Green and Stevie Wonder and 57 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: Marvin Gaye, the Commodores, Earth Wind and Fire, Sam Hook, 58 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: like a lot of what today we really call like 59 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: old school artists. 60 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: Right. 61 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: So for my eight year old, ten year old, fourteen 62 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: year old self, I'm like, the hell is this? Like 63 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: I need the music that's being played on the local 64 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 3: radio station. So for me, music was about being connected 65 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: to what's current. But I also know that there were 66 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: parts of my childhood where I would connect to that, 67 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: the old school music that my mom was listening to. 68 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 3: And now as an adult, I love it like Prince 69 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: is still one of my favorite people to listen to. 70 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 3: And so for me, music also is like a thing 71 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: of like nostalgia. 72 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: Yes, oh my gosh, I think for me music was 73 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: so important like music for me growing up, I love 74 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: to listen to music. It was like a way for 75 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: me to escape what I was going through on my 76 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: current reality. It was therapeutic. It was cathartic. I mean 77 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: it was. It was just magical. Now. The thing about 78 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: it is in my household, we were only allowed to 79 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: listen to gospel music, So I grew up in a 80 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: very religious household, where like, okay, let me just tell 81 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: y'all that some people listening are going to be like, 82 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: oh yeah, that sounds familiar, and to a lot of people, 83 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna sound crazy. But there's literally you got Kirk Franklin, 84 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: you have Fred Hammond, Yolanda Adams, right. But there was 85 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: also gospel rap music, and because I wasn't allowed to 86 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: listen to radio music, we listened to rap music, but 87 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: it was gospel, so groups like gospel gangsters that was 88 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 2: an actual group, and I remember the songs. The songs 89 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 2: were actually lit. You can actually google this Gospel Gangsters. 90 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: They had some really good songs. But my cousins used 91 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: to Dom's left, my cousin, My cousins, Okay, wait, let 92 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: me get it together. My cousins used to tease me. 93 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: And it's funny because recently my cousin was talking to 94 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: my husband and he's like, yeah, she used to only 95 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: listen to gospel music and Disney music. So so yeah, 96 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: we were like kind of corny. Well we were looked 97 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: at us corny because we were not allowed to listen 98 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: to it, like my parents didn't play that, but of 99 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: course I still listened to it. So I used to 100 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: sneak and listen to it all my little Walkman All Walkman, 101 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: and my CD player, yes girl, the FM and AM station. 102 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: I would like turn my music to the hip hop 103 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: local hip hop station and listen to my Wendy Williams, 104 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: but she was on Power ninety nine. And so for me, 105 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: like I got my music from home, right, The gospel 106 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: music we listened to was so amazing, But I also 107 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: listened to my radio music as well, So I kind 108 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: of had these two like musical lives, like were the 109 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: cool music that my parents didn't know I was listening to, 110 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: and then the gospel music. But music has always been 111 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: like very therapeutical. We were you know, saying the choir 112 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: at church and things like that, so it was also 113 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: like very healing I think for me being able to 114 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: kind of escape and like go on these journeys with 115 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: the artist. 116 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that there's so much that can be 117 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 3: said about music, right, And I think about, like as 118 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: you were talking, like one of the things that came 119 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: up for me was growing up in New Orleans. I 120 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: was growing up in the eighties and nineties when bounce 121 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: music was just popping off, so like DJ Jubilieve was 122 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: like the thing, and so like he was the artist, 123 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: and so like I remember my mom, like I said, 124 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: did not like us listening to or wasn't really listening 125 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: to newer stuff in the household. But I remember that 126 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: was a thing that, like you, we would listen to 127 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: like the local station and listen to bounce music. And 128 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: I'm not much of a dancer, but that would be 129 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: the thing that we would, like my sisters and I 130 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: would like try to learn the dances and then you know, 131 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: and so I remembers as we're having this conversation, like 132 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: it's just like I said earlier, like the nostalgia, like 133 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: talking about it now is like bringing up so many 134 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: like fond memories stuff right like it has. Music can 135 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 3: take you to so many different places, and so like 136 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: one of the things from my childhood there was I 137 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: remember when I was six years old, there was this 138 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: song called Congratulations by Vesta Williams. Google it. Because we 139 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 3: don't have the right to play any of this music, 140 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 3: I want everybody to dive in with us and we 141 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: hear the songs. So just you know, you might have 142 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: to take a while to listen to this episode. So 143 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: like you can pause and you can go and look 144 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: up these guys. 145 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: Listen to the song, resume, listen to the song. 146 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that I think that'll make it a much more 147 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 3: enjoyable experience. So the first song you want to look 148 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: up is Congratulations by Vesta Williams. And I remember being 149 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: in grade school and every morning, as I was getting 150 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 3: ready for school, like I would call the local radio 151 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 3: station and request that they would play that song. Now, 152 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: for those of you that have already gone and press 153 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 3: pause and listened to the song that song is such 154 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: a sad song. It's about a woman who sees her 155 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: ex marrying somebody else and she's watching the wedding from 156 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: afar and she's such a sad like emotional song at 157 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: six years old. Now, what do we know about relationships? Right? 158 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: What do we know about marriage? None of the trauma. 159 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: Most of us shouldn't know anything about that trauma, right. 160 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: But I felt it like in my soul's. 161 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: Idee felt her pain. 162 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: Wow, And that's like one of the first memories I 163 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 3: have was like, just the power of music. 164 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: M that's a really good one time. I really know 165 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: for me, Yo, it used to be so important to 166 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: learn all the lyrics, like you had to know and 167 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, I remember one of my I think it 168 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: may have been my grandparent, like my grandfather. Someone said like, 169 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: if you knew your studies the way you know them 170 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: them lyrics. But I was like, honestly, our brains are 171 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: so powerful because I can literally you can play a 172 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 2: throwback one of my songs I can give you. I 173 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: can sing the whole song like two Day, even though 174 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: I haven't listened to it in years. But I used to, 175 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: like line by line. I used to look at the 176 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: lyrics on as lyrics dot Com because I had to 177 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: know my songs when they came on. And I think 178 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: about one song for me that and of course, okay, 179 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: let's just get the jokes out of the way. My 180 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: first concert was Kirk Franklin concert. Okay, go ahead down 181 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: laugh at me. It's cool. My parents took me to 182 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: a Kirk Franklin concert. Yeah it makes sense, yes, but 183 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: I started going to lick concerts after that. Justy, but no, 184 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: we went to a Kurk Franklin concert and I would 185 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: say one of the songs for me that was like 186 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: one of my favorites just growing up was Stomp Kurk Franklin. Yeah, 187 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: make me clap my hands, make you want to yes, 188 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: like that's my and that song for me was just 189 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: so fun because we used to dance and play around. 190 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: We listened to a lot of music in my household 191 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: and also in the car. My dad loved to sing, 192 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: and we just had so many good memories around music. Right, 193 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: even when you think about you know, block parties back 194 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: in Philly on the East Coast, like they would play 195 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: loud music, we would just all dance. I mean, when 196 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: you think about line dancing, and like all the songs, 197 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: it's just music really has a way of bringing people 198 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: together and sort of transcending race, culture, class and all that, 199 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: because we all just like to move. You ever, just 200 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: be somewhere and you hear a song and it's like 201 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 2: a throwback, and people just like Michael Jackson, right, everybody's 202 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: up dancing, everybody's you know, some everybody's doing something, whether 203 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: you're tapping your foot old this movement. I mean, music 204 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: is just that powerful. 205 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: It really is. And it's like, you know, I think 206 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 3: about as I got older songs that really started to 207 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 3: resonate with me based on things that I was going through. 208 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: Although that's the song should have been a hit for 209 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 3: my life, how I would resonate with music. But okay, 210 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: so what I'm gonna do is I'm going to toss 211 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 3: out a few lyrics and I'm a pause. But you 212 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: take a moment and try and guess, and then we'll 213 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: tell you what it is and what the song really 214 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: means for us. So the first one, now, mind you, 215 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sing. I'm just gonna. 216 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: Read you're vocals. 217 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: I don't want to hurt anybody's ears. While all the 218 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: time that I was loving you. You were busy loving yourself. 219 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: I would stop breathing if you told me to. Now 220 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: you're busy loving someone else. Eleven years out of my 221 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: life besides the kids, I have nothing to show wasted 222 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 3: my years A fool of a wife. I should have 223 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: left your ass a long time ago. Oh child, You 224 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: know a song that is for those who don't know 225 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: that is Mary J. Blige. Not gonna cry from the 226 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: wait until they tell soundtrack. When I think about when 227 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 3: I hear that song, when I first heard that song again, 228 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: that was one of those songs where I felt her 229 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: pain right And at that time I wasn't fully I 230 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: wasn't old enough to be fully aware of what it 231 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: really meant. But as I reflect back now, I like 232 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: the song is so she's dealing with a She's not 233 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: only is she dealing with a relationship breakup, but it 234 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: feels like she's saying she's dealing with a narcissist, but 235 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: then also going through this thing of Okay, well I 236 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 3: am going I'm gonna press on, I'm gonna be resilient, 237 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: and she's working out all the emotions of how to 238 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: deal with moving on from this relationship like wrestling through like, 239 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 3: what lessons do I need to take away from being 240 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: in this relationship? She's talking through her regret, she's talking 241 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: through all the things that she gave for this relationship. 242 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: How many of us can say that we've been in 243 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: a relationship where we were the relationship is ending and 244 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: we're like, nah, man, I'm mad. I might be mad 245 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: at myself about some of the choices I made, but 246 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: I can't sit and wallow. I gotta keep pushing forward. 247 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's deep. I think it's so. It's so powerful 248 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: as a creative to be able to process and like 249 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: share that pain with other people. So so so I 250 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: want to say beautifully where they connect with it that deeply, 251 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: because imagine all the breakup songs we've heard. I know 252 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: there are tons of songs, Like one song I think 253 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: of is so Sick of love songs Neo that was 254 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: like my I don't know what grade I was in, 255 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: but like little old school heart breaks when I was 256 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: a baby and haven't really experienced anything. That was a 257 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: song for me that was just like it was just 258 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: so on point. And Neo is so talented, but the 259 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: way he writes and how you're like, oh my gosh, 260 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: that's so true because when our song comes on the radio, 261 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: I'm so sad. I wish you would stop playing. And 262 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: it's just Yes, it's interesting how those moments like stick 263 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: with us. I think of a song and I was 264 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: going to sing the lyrics even though I can't sing, 265 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: but I figured when I listened to this episode, I'm 266 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: gonna regret doing so, so I'm not going to sing. 267 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: Wait, wait, hold on, hold on now. 268 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: I want it so bad, so bad, but I literally 269 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: I sound like a dying animal. Why I sing. It's 270 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: really bad except for when I'm in the shower. 271 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm glad we're on the same page. Oh yeah, 272 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: in the shower, in the car, yeah. 273 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't the color exactly. So this song I'm 274 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: really excited about. It's such a fun song. And the 275 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: lyrics go, can't let this thing called love get away 276 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: from you? Feel free right now, go and do what 277 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: you want to do. Can't let nobody take it away 278 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: from you, from me, from we Now I can't say 279 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: the lyrics. I gotta sing it. I just got to 280 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: sing it, all right. You want to sing what we done? No, 281 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: you do not want to sing it with me? Okay, 282 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: So here's Okay, I'll just sing my favorite part. I'm 283 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: so embarrassed. All right, let's do it. Don't look at me, 284 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: don't want to make me laught. Okay, okay, let me 285 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: just we should drink some wine, but for this episode. 286 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: All right, So I like what I see when I'm 287 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: looking at me and I'm walking past the mirror. No 288 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: stress to the night at time in my life ain't 289 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: worth you. Okay. I think I got to re redo 290 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: this because it's not gonna, okay, bring it together. My 291 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: life's just fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. Yes, and 292 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: you already know who that is. I'm sure you knew 293 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: it from the first line, but that is Mary J. 294 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: Blige as well. And when I think about that song, 295 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 2: that is a song I remember vividly listening to when 296 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: I was going through my own just personal battles of 297 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: you know, struggling with confidence or self esteem. That was 298 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: like my at one point, it was like my morning 299 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 2: sort of routine. I would listen to that song, get 300 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: hyped up. It's a nice song to dance to. I 301 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: would listen to that even before speaking engagements to get 302 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: myself in the right mind space. And I mean, how 303 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: can you not like a song that talks about loving 304 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: what you see when you're look in the mirror, right, 305 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's definitely one of my favorites there. 306 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I hear that song and coming on 307 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: the heels of us going over not gonna cry Mary, 308 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: just like like she embodies her music embodies us going 309 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 3: through all the emotions, right. And I've heard controversy of 310 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 3: like whether or not married, Like there's kind of you know, 311 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: whether or not Mary can really sing, and you know, 312 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 3: and some people really like Mary and other people are 313 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: like I can't stand her. But what I appreciate about 314 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: Mary is what her music does is that no matter 315 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: what your opinion of her is, we've all been in 316 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 3: one of those spots or both where she's talking about heartbreak, 317 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: but then she comes out of it and she's excited 318 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 3: about life, excited about herself, and expressing this confidence that 319 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 3: all of us are trying to get to, all of 320 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: us are whope into experience, right. And so I think 321 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 3: that's the biggest piece that I take away from her 322 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 3: music is that her music literally lets us see that 323 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: emotional roll culture that we go through when we go 324 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: when we're experiencing different things in life. 325 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: Yes, that's so spot on. And also just as a 326 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: little disclaimer, when you listen to this, you're probably gonna 327 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 2: be like, girl, why do you say this song? Dom 328 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: and I were literally chatting about this over dinner and 329 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: we were just like, oh my gosh, I just thought 330 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: of this other song. And there are so many songs 331 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: and so many moments that we could speak about that 332 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: we only just zoomed into a few because you already 333 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: know this conversation can go on for hours. Okay, There's 334 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: so much good music out there, so we just really 335 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: just did a little high level of the songs that 336 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 2: really came to mind for us and one that comes 337 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: to mind for me. There are so many different Marria J. 338 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 2: Blige songs, right, But one artist that I also enjoy 339 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 2: is Ndiairi, and she has a ton of memusic, right, 340 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 2: we know, like I'm not my Hair, brown Skin, and 341 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: so many others. But one song in particular off of 342 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: her song Versation thing, it's called song Versation album that 343 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: I've been playing that has been helping me through my time. 344 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: It's called just let It Go. And this song just 345 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: listen to these lyrics. I wish I could read the 346 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: whole song because it's just so powerful. But you have 347 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: to look this up and listen to it. And basically 348 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: she starts off by saying, you've been through so much, 349 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: so many ups and downs. You've given your love, but 350 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 2: never light the way it turned out. You closed off 351 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 2: your heart and you carry the weight like a million 352 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: rocks on your shoulders. But you don't have to wait 353 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: for an apology. I'm gonna say that one more time. 354 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: Did you hear that? Because when she said, I said, 355 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: you better pray, praise them. Okay, I want to shout 356 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: in the bathroom. 357 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 3: Domn. 358 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: You don't have to wait for an apology or for 359 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: someone else to make amends. When you remember that your 360 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: healing is in your hands. Just let it go, inch 361 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: by inch, Just let it go and do it again. 362 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: Just let it go. One day you'll see. Just let 363 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: it go, you set yourself free. God damn. And when 364 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: you hear how beautiful you know Indiaivery's voice is so 365 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: beautiful when you hear it, if you haven't heard it, 366 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 2: it's so beautiful. It made me cry for sure. But 367 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 2: when I think about my life and situations that I 368 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: was in where I didn't think I could make it, 369 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: and I was either depending on an apology from someone 370 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: that may have wronged me or betrayed me, and waiting 371 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: on that apology as a prerequisite to my healing. So 372 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 2: it's like, I'm not going to heal until you accept 373 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: responsibility for what you didn't apologize. Well, that's not how 374 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: it always works, right, People have egos. Some people they 375 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: may pass away and you may never get to have 376 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: the conversation, or they just might not be in a 377 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: place where they are able to recognize their wrongdoing. And 378 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: we have to know that our healing is really in 379 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: our hands. And it made me think about situations where 380 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: I looked up and I was like, oh my gosh, 381 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: I healed myself. I was able to get myself through 382 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: this tough situation. And man, it's just such a beautiful 383 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: song if you listened to it from beginning to end. 384 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: And she has another song that I think, like, come 385 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 3: as as soon as you started with the lyrics on 386 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: that one, another song came up for me that kind 387 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: of speaks to the same thing. It's called private party. 388 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: Good Yes, that is one of my favorites. 389 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 3: Tu it Yes, So I'm gonna read a couple of lyrics. 390 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 3: I'm having a private party ain't nobody here but me, 391 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 3: my angels, and my guitar, singing, baby, look how far 392 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: we've come. I'm having a private party learning how to 393 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: love me, celebrating the woman I've become. And then it 394 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: goes a little deeper into saying, you know, she's gonna 395 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: take off all her clothes, look at herself in the mirror, 396 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 3: have a conversation, heal the disconnection. She can't remember exactly 397 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 3: where it started, but in this moment, this is where 398 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: it's gonna end. She's acknowledging like her body is beautiful. 399 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 3: She celebrated, and I think that's one of the things 400 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: that like, I love about a lot of her song lyrics. 401 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 3: It's about, no matter what hard time you're going through, 402 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: taking a moment to recognize that wait, hold on your worth, 403 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 3: celebrating yes. 404 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: And when I think of that song, that was one 405 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 2: of my favorites, and that song in particular was big 406 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: for me when it came to body image, and I 407 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: used to have private parties with myself and I followed 408 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 2: the lyrics. I would just look in the mirror at 409 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: my body and basically just looking myself until I began 410 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: to love myself. And it's like instead of pointing out 411 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: all the flaws, it would be like, Okay, no, let's 412 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: talk about the things we're grateful for. I've been really 413 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 2: in a space of gratitude lately because I think it's 414 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: so important to get ourselves energetically in that space, because 415 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: our body is ready to receive when we are gracious 416 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: and we're thankful for the things that we have. And 417 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: so even looking in the mirror and maybe you can't 418 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: find something that you love, but I'm thankful for this 419 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 2: ability that I have. Right some people don't have the 420 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: ability to wake up and go to the bathroom on 421 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: their own. My body allows me to do that. That's 422 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: pretty damn big, you know. 423 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: That right there, the ability to get up and go 424 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 3: to the bathroom, Like just acknowledging something that we take 425 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: for granted and recognizing the importance of it is so important. 426 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 3: And I think like pointing out the ability to get 427 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 3: up and go to the bathroom and acknowledging that something 428 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: that we take for granted is really a big deal 429 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 3: and really worth celebrating and really worth looking at like 430 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: the little things. And as I'm saying that, I feel 431 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: like Ndiri also has a song called It's the little things. 432 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 3: But see how easy that is, like the influence of 433 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 3: music that as we're talking, like easily some song lyrics 434 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: can come to mind that resonate with a moment that 435 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 3: you might. 436 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 2: Be in, and that also speaks to how we need 437 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: to be careful what we let into our spirit and 438 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: our psyche and I have to be like super extra 439 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: because don't get a twisted I love my ratchet music, right, 440 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: but I think if we're listening to something that makes 441 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: us like that puts us in a really dark place. 442 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's like maybe I don't need to listen to this, 443 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 2: even if it brings back a memory. But if it 444 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: doesn't put you in a good place energetically and just 445 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: does it make you feel good, then it's probably good 446 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: to not listen to that. Or if it communicates a 447 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: negative message to you and again it makes you feel bad, 448 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: it's okay to. 449 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: Put that down and walk away from it, and also 450 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: being mindful of like how that music influences you. Like 451 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 3: I know for me, and I've talked about this on 452 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 3: a previous episode, that like when I'm listening to music 453 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: with a heavy most of the time, if I'm listening 454 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 3: to rap, I'll get something with a really good beat. 455 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 3: If I'm in my car, I notice that unless I'm 456 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,239 Speaker 3: in traffic, like, I'll have the tendency to drive fast. Oh, 457 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: you better preach because I'm like on it with the 458 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: music and like, girl, I just take off. I'm in 459 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: my zone. 460 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: Yes you are speaking, I'm like you. I'm resonating down 461 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: because that is me. And honestly, it doesn't really usually 462 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 2: as fast music. But if it's like a song that 463 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: I like, oh it's a rap, it's just like you 464 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: just yeah, it gets a little scary. So I'm gonna 465 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 2: I'm having some flashbacks. What other songs don't speak to you? 466 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 2: Give us some lyrics, girl. 467 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 3: So I was having a hard time thinking about like music, 468 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: like music lyrics that are current, that are really speaking 469 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 3: to me. But like, as we were really talking, having 470 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: our conversation over dinner, a couple of songs came up 471 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: for me from childhood. So I'm gonna toss one at you, okay, 472 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 3: And it's just a few couple of lines. When I 473 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: was seventeen, I did what people told me. I did 474 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: what my father said and let my mother mold me. 475 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 3: But that was long ago, and now I'm in control. 476 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 3: That's a song by Janet Now that song now mind 477 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: you again. That song came out when I was a child, okay, 478 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 3: and that speaks to the stuff that I was listening 479 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: to as a child, But as I hear that song 480 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: now and reflect on it as an adult, like in 481 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: those moments in childhood, like I was bopping along with it, 482 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: but as an adult listening to it, like that song 483 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 3: makes so much sense. Like at seventeen, you're right on 484 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: that cusp of leaving childhood and trying to be an adult. 485 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 3: Not quite there yet, but you think you're there, but 486 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 3: you really are developmentally in the space of recognizing that 487 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: the influence of your parents might not be and your parents' 488 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 3: desires and dreams and wishes might not be what you want, 489 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: and recognizing it at least. Within this song, Janet is 490 00:27:54,320 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 3: speaking to not letting other people dictate who she is 491 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 3: and who she wants to become. And I think that's 492 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: such a powerful message for young women. 493 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: I would agree. I need to re listen to that song, 494 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: so again, don't take my black card. I'm sure I've 495 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 2: heard it, but I don't recall at the moment, So 496 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 2: I will listen to that, but I do want to say, 497 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: how it's so interesting that now when I hear songs 498 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 2: I used to listen to when I was younger, I'm like, 499 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 2: why the hell was I listening to this song as 500 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 2: a kid. I'm talking about p D Pie Flow Freakily okay, 501 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: knowing all the goddamn words. I'm talking about Pretty Ricky, 502 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: grind On You, and play House. I mean, all these 503 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: songs that I was listening to, and I knew every 504 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: goddamn word. I honestly, though I was innocent to the 505 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: quint I didn't really know what they were talking about 506 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: some of the some of the songs. I was like, 507 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: I wonder if no like Ignition remixed to Agnition? What 508 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: like girl? I know, I I know we're not talking 509 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: about Yeah, I know, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, a lot. 510 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 3: Of stuff that we were listening to. I think about 511 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: Prince and like I said, Prince has some lyrics that 512 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 3: he has one song called pussy Control. 513 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: Oh. 514 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: Now, I encourage people to go and look at the 515 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: lyrics to that song and really learned, like really learned 516 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 3: the lyrics to that song. But as a kid, yeahna, 517 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: I shouldn't have been listening to But as an adult, 518 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 3: it for me, it really speaks to being in control 519 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 3: of myself and female empowerment and to me, for Prince 520 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 3: to sing about female empowerment, that's the reason number six 521 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: seventy five why I. But I think that that's also 522 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: important too, when when we talk about like the influence 523 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: of music on us, how the the role the artists 524 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,239 Speaker 3: may play in the message, like the messages that the 525 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: artist is sending, and the role that that plays in 526 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 3: our lives. So if we're like you said, if we're 527 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: taking in stuff that really isn't going to be helpful 528 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 3: to our development based on how we're taking it in 529 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 3: in that moment. Right, So I could listen to Prince 530 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: as a grown woman and appreciate all his complexities because 531 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 3: people like to say that Prince focus solely on sex, 532 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: but he was much more than that, And so as 533 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: an adult I can step in and really take in 534 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: the complexities of what he was speaking to. As a child, 535 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm seeing stuff and I have no clue what I'm seeing, 536 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 3: but it's still seeping into my subconscious and having an 537 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: influence on my decision making. 538 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: That's a good point. And rest in mister Prince. I 539 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: still can't believe he's gone. That's just so it doesn't 540 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: even seem real, which is just bizarre. So I have 541 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: one more song that I want to share. This song 542 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: means a lot to me, and as you can guys, 543 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 2: it's by Kirk Franklin. Okay, so this song, Oh my gosh, 544 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: if you have not heard this, you got a YouTube 545 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: it and watch the video. It's called Imagine Me. And 546 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: the lyrics, Oh, I wish I could sing the or 547 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: read the whole song, but I only do a little 548 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: snippet and it says, imagine me loving what I see 549 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: when the mirror looks at me, because I imagine me in 550 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: a place of no insecurities, and I'm finally happy because 551 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: I imagine me letting go of all the ones who 552 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: hurt me because they never did deserve me. Can you 553 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: imagine me saying no to thoughts that try to control me, 554 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 2: remembering all you told me? Lord? Can you imagine me 555 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,719 Speaker 2: over what my mind mama said and healed from what 556 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 2: my daddy did. And I want to live and not 557 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: read that page again. And that song, like, when you 558 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: watch the video, you will probably be in tears. And 559 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: I remember being at my grandmother's house with my dad. 560 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: This was probably like either a coup few months or 561 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 2: maybe even a year before he passed away, and we 562 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: were like in the room in my grandmother's house, in 563 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: one of the back rooms, and we were watching I 564 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: think we were watching the video together and we were 565 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: just like engrossed. It was so good and we were 566 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: just looking at it and I remember just tearing up 567 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: and I was like, Wow, this song is so powerful. 568 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: When I listened to that song a lot, and it 569 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: just I mean, it talks about just imagining you really 570 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: being your best self. So I would definitely recommend listening 571 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: to that song. It's a good one. 572 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: What I think that that really, like you said, like 573 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 3: like we were saying, had been saying throughout this whole episode, 574 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 3: and like how we're taking it in like the power 575 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 3: and the influence of the lyrics and what it can 576 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 3: really how can really speak to us and motivate us 577 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 3: in a sense, right, because if we look at all 578 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 3: the songs that we've kind of talked about, like some 579 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 3: of the songs that we mentioned talked about like relationship breakup, right, 580 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: But it's also even within that as they're talking about 581 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 3: relationship breakup, there's also a sense of, well, how do 582 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 3: I come out of this, and so it's not just 583 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: kind of leaving the listener just kind of waiting in 584 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: the wings or hanging in the balance of well, I 585 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,239 Speaker 3: don't know what to do next. I'm just gonna sit 586 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 3: and wallow. No, it talks to us about the music, 587 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: speaks to us about Okay, well, I'm gonna feel the feelings. 588 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 3: But then I'm gonna take a step forward and it 589 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: might take a long time, but I'm gonna take us. 590 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: I'm taking steps forward and to quote our girl Mary Jay, 591 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be just fine. 592 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 2: A And as far as like some of our I 593 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 2: mean again, we could not cover all the songs. So 594 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: when you think about albums and some of your top favorites, 595 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: what are some of those songs that come to mind 596 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: for you? 597 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 3: As far well, I can't narrow it down so I 598 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 3: can listen. I could share some of my favorite artists, right, so, 599 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 3: in terms of thinking about the music that really like 600 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 3: speaks to me and for a variety of ways, Maxwell 601 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 3: is one of my favorite artists. He's up there in 602 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 3: my top five and so pretty much all of his 603 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 3: albums TLC Girl Crazy, Sexy Cool was like one of 604 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: the best albums ever. Lauren Hill Miseducation La Hill like 605 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 3: that that album. I could listen to that album today 606 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 3: and it's entirely and still sing my heart out for 607 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: other people not to hear, but I can sing my 608 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 3: heart out to that, to that album. I'm a big 609 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 3: fan of Steve Wonder, al Green, all those artist said. 610 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 3: I mentioned at the beginning that I was like as 611 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 3: a kid, I hated yes, and I wish my mom 612 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 3: would like get rid of that eight track and like 613 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 3: because she was listening to still had a tracks back then. 614 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 3: I like those people now like and more than like like, 615 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: I love those people. I get excited, like I've gone 616 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 3: to Stevie Wonder concert, you know, and oh my gosh, 617 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 3: I was like one of the one of the best 618 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 3: concerts ever. 619 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 2: In I'm not surprised, but that's just Pee. 620 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 3: Wonder songs in the Key Life. Oh, one of the best. 621 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: Really, that's so dope. I have a lot of well, 622 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: I think I would definitely name some of your songs. 623 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: I don't know a lot of the albums, but I 624 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 2: know my parents and grandparents and even like family people 625 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 2: my age too, listen to a lot like Marvin Gay 626 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 2: and you know, Aretha Franklin, Padla Belle. Those are all classics, 627 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 2: right as far as like I would say, more current 628 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: obviously Beyonce, right, I think of one of her songs, 629 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 2: Irreplaceable was a good one. But I just like a 630 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: lot of her music. I mean Destiny's Child, I mean 631 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 2: say My, I mean Bill's Bill's Bill's all that girl 632 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 2: Solange I see at the table. That album was so bombed. 633 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: I played that so much my husband was ready to 634 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 2: I think he was ready to move out because I 635 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 2: just played it all loud all the time. That was 636 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 2: a really great album and you have to play it girl. 637 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: When it first got released, I was just like, this 638 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,720 Speaker 2: is speaking to my soul. I mean Crane's in the Sky. 639 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 2: It was just so good. Even Nicki Minaje, I like 640 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 2: some Cardi b when you get into like the ratchet 641 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 2: music now not necessarily speaking about the people, right, not 642 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 2: liking them as people, but maybe just the music, because 643 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,479 Speaker 2: some people have questionable you're just like, what are you doing? 644 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 2: Like Chris Brown, he's been my like, you know, I 645 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: feel like we go way back because I literally followed 646 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 2: him since he started and we were the same age, 647 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 2: and I was just like, oh my gosh, this little 648 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 2: cute black boy and like watching him grow, but all 649 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 2: his music, I mean, he's super talented. Then you got 650 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 2: like some new artists like Meg the Stallion. You got 651 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 2: She's like she's dope, And I mean this is we're 652 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: talking ratchetmusic right now. So get ready? Who else? We 653 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 2: got some rappers up in there, but Sweety from the 654 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 2: Bay Sweedi has some good stuff. Yeah, the Migos, So 655 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: I mean that's not necessarily maybe it's motivational. Some of 656 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 2: them might be motivational to you, but it's like good 657 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 2: turn up music. I listen to a lot of trap 658 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 2: music while I'm in the gym. That's what gets me 659 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 2: going when I'm working out and pushing them, pushing that metal, 660 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 2: lifting them weights. That's the music that gets me going. 661 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 3: And I just think that like music itself, Wow, it's 662 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 3: so so powerful, like we've been saying, and so in 663 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 3: honor of Black Music Month, I hope that after you 664 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 3: listen to this episode, you go and maybe look up 665 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 3: some of the artists that we name that you hadn't 666 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 3: heard of yet, and maybe download some new music, like 667 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 3: support our black artists and drop a line in the 668 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 3: heirst Face Sanctuary and let us know, like, what are 669 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 3: some of your favorite songs for empower or to dance 670 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 3: to or just whatever. Just let us know what your 671 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 3: favorite zones are and why so that maybe we can 672 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 3: all start like our own little her Space playlist. 673 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 2: And you can find a link to the her Space 674 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 2: sanctuary in this show note, so be sure to take 675 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 2: a look there. And our community is still very small, 676 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 2: We're still evolving and growing, so make sure you get 677 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 2: in while you can and engage with Domini because we 678 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 2: want to know you, we want to learn more about you, 679 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: So be sure to request to join that group and 680 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 2: complete there's like three really quick questions just to make 681 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: sure we are sifting through and making sure that we 682 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 2: have good people in the group. But apply and we 683 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: will accept you and invite you so we can chat. 684 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us today in her Space. Please note 685 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 3: that our show may contain conversations about self health, advice, 686 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 3: self empowerment, and mental health, but it is by no 687 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 3: means meant to be a substitute for an ongoing formal 688 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 3: relationship with a trained mental health provider. If you or 689 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,240 Speaker 3: someone you know is in need of mental health care, 690 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 3: please visit the Thera People Like Girls directory Psychology today 691 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 3: or contact your insurance provider. 692 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 2: If you liked what you heard and want to keep 693 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 2: the conversation going, connect with us on Facebook, Instagram, and 694 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 2: Twitter at her space podcast, or check out our website 695 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 2: at herspacepodcast dot com. And before we meet again, repeat 696 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 2: after me, I release what no longer serves me to 697 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 2: manifest what I desire. 698 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. We'll see you next week, Lady