WEBVTT - That's Why They Call It Work! 

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they call it work. It's one more thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm strong Andy.

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<v Speaker 2>One more thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe and I have recounted over the many years are

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<v Speaker 1>some of our unpleasant jobs we've had in our lives,

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<v Speaker 1>having both started working relatively young as children and uh, child.

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<v Speaker 2>Labor, the scourge of child labor.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever had an unpleasant job, Katie, Yeah, I worked in

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<v Speaker 1>clothing retail on the boss will sucked the worst clothing

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<v Speaker 1>retail sucked. Yeah, I worked at I worked.

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<v Speaker 3>At Pacsun which the store was itself. It was great,

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<v Speaker 3>it was my favorite store. But I was in the

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<v Speaker 3>mall and just all the just bitchy people that rolled

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<v Speaker 3>through there.

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<v Speaker 2>I did that for a summer, I guess it was.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny. I've kind of forgotten about it. I had

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<v Speaker 2>just gotten married, I was still in college, and I

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<v Speaker 2>needed a gig during the summer, and so I went

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<v Speaker 2>to work at this leather store, not like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>S and M. Just coats and that's sure, I think anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, so is SNM chaps.

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<v Speaker 1>But it smelled great in there. I love the smell

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<v Speaker 1>of leather. Yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 2>But my boss was this I think he was a

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<v Speaker 2>year or two younger than me, half wit. But he

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<v Speaker 2>was the boss, so I said, okay, I had to

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<v Speaker 2>he would, he would, you know, tell me what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And half the time he didn't make any sense. And

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<v Speaker 2>he was so full of himself because he was the

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<v Speaker 2>assistant manager of some leather store in a mall in Champagne, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh, it's just miserable. You stand there and have

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do for a long periods of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing to do is worse than being busy by far, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>just way worse.

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<v Speaker 3>I just remember the rage I felt when I had

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<v Speaker 3>just finished folding a pile of T shirts and these

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<v Speaker 3>idiot teeny boppers came in and they were looking for

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<v Speaker 3>a size and they just screwed the whole thing up,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, what am I doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Kanye's got a song about folding khakis at the gap? Really, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a really good song. Yeah, it's pretty close to

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<v Speaker 1>digging a hole and filling it back in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, if the manager keeps insulting me, I will be

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<v Speaker 1>assaulting him.

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<v Speaker 2>I can relate.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason I just brought that up is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to read some of these posts from the anti

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<v Speaker 1>work reddit thread, which we've talked about on the air before.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got millions of followers, and it's people who don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe in work, which is weird to me. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how you grew up in such a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Our schools clearly don't make it, but your parents didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make it ever clear to you that everybody's got to

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<v Speaker 1>work and your early jobs are going to be sucky.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm surprised by that. I mean, that's been such

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<v Speaker 1>a common theme since my kids were little. And my kid,

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<v Speaker 1>my oldest, turned sixteen here in a couple of months

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<v Speaker 1>and he gets just a working I think he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to work at Target. I can't wait for him to

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<v Speaker 1>have a sucky job. I'm looking forward to having him

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<v Speaker 1>having a sucky job. I think I saw what it

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<v Speaker 1>did for my nieces, how they grew so much as people.

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<v Speaker 1>In a year of having a job where you got

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<v Speaker 1>to do a bunch of stuff you don't want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the best thing that can happen to you.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's amazing to me that so many people think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a horror when I, as a parent, I am looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to my kids having bad entry level jobs as

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<v Speaker 1>one a reality check and two a motivation for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up with some skills, so you don't do that

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>That attitude has to be from inductrination or affluence, I

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<v Speaker 2>would guess, or laziness. But I mean if you because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking back to when I was a kid, and

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<v Speaker 2>if I wanted to buy anything or have anything, I

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<v Speaker 2>had to earn the money. We weren't poor, but there

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<v Speaker 2>was no money to spare. I remember the first time

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<v Speaker 2>as an adult I bought ziplock bags. For instance. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no freaking way we had zip mats in my house

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<v Speaker 2>because they were more expensive than the kind you fold

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<v Speaker 2>over tie with a little twist tie stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, we're not poor, but there wasn't a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money around, and I remember being like, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>I can do that for a while and they'll give

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<v Speaker 2>me money and then I can buy things I want

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<v Speaker 2>and do things I want. Let's get started at age eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>when I first lied about my age. I've always seen

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<v Speaker 2>it as an opportunity, and it is hard to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out people who don't see it like that unless they've

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<v Speaker 2>always had that base of a really comfortable life and

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<v Speaker 2>they think, well, why am I having to work to

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<v Speaker 2>maintain this or I don't know, it seems so strange.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know our old producer Vince, who he

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<v Speaker 1>had not an easy upbringing, but he used to when

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<v Speaker 1>people would complain about things like he particularly fast food

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<v Speaker 1>work because he'd worked at MacDonald's, he'd say, get up

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<v Speaker 1>better job. If you don't like it, get a better job,

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<v Speaker 1>or get some skills where you can get a better job.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't just keep working at McDonald's and think somehow it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna magically become a fun place to be or easier something,

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<v Speaker 1>or that that entry level job ought to feed a

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<v Speaker 1>family for right. Anyway, to the anti work thread some

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<v Speaker 1>of these. Here's a cartoon. It's got the money bags

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<v Speaker 1>guy from Monopoly with the top hat. Capitalism means freedom

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<v Speaker 1>of choice. Your choice is either get exploited or die

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<v Speaker 1>on the street. Okay, Katie mentioned this one. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>this is making the rounds. It's it's actually Ariana Grande,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's she's looking at her nails.

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<v Speaker 2>So just like.

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<v Speaker 1>A press a press, there you go, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>all mad about today? And the answer was being forced

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<v Speaker 1>to work forty plus hours a week so you can

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<v Speaker 1>get money to pay to live on a planet that

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't even ask to be on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was pretty much verbatim what that chick on.

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok was saying. What a weird way to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the world. That is. You're mad today. You gotta work

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<v Speaker 1>forty hours a week to be able to afford to

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<v Speaker 1>live on a planet you didn't even ask to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know, it just born. It just clicked into

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<v Speaker 2>my head. In progressive I was going to say America,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's it's global, practically global. In the progressive world,

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<v Speaker 2>you absolutely must be a victim. That's the only way

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<v Speaker 2>to have any standing. What is the absolute bedrock, lowest

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<v Speaker 2>common denominator, a victimhood? Existence?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get more basic than that.

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<v Speaker 2>I exist. Therefore I am oppressed because nobody asked me

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<v Speaker 2>if I wanted to exist.

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<v Speaker 3>My parents wanted to add of oppression.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah exactly. Yeah, look at me being oppressed by existing.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to get me give me stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, gargo a barrel or do something, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to do to check out, that's your option.

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<v Speaker 1>But barrel, what is it? What to fancy euphemism for

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<v Speaker 1>killing yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I didn't know that Oh I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it now the barrel.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Oh that's gonna be a new insult of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, gargle a barrel.

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<v Speaker 2>Gurgle a barrel. I still don't get it. Barrel, you'll die.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh of the barrel of I was picturing like a barrel.

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<v Speaker 2>I was too cask of wine. Gargle a barrel. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>now I get it. Oh that's harsh.

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<v Speaker 3>I laughed at it when I was thinking of the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, So leave the giffing planet.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't like existing, walk West.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's a good idea, but yeah, make

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<v Speaker 2>you so happy and be dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk We still your hat floats. That's a good one, boy.

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<v Speaker 1>The old shotgun tons elect me. That's what I heard.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, yeah, that is harsh. But what are you

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<v Speaker 2>What are you freaking saying? I know that you're weird.

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<v Speaker 1>You're complaining about being born. Yes, clearly you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be here. Somebody wronged you by bringing you into existence,

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<v Speaker 1>and you see the here's the conundrum here. You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>exist if you hadn't been brought into existence.

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<v Speaker 2>So what you're bringing my brain? Still oppressing me with

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<v Speaker 2>your logic? All right, here's I've got my plan, my

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<v Speaker 2>second chapter. If you will. Some people retire and they

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<v Speaker 2>mentor youths or they you know, evolved here in food

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<v Speaker 2>kitchens whatever. I'm going to retire from this gig. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>miss you all, good luck, and I'm going to spend

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<v Speaker 2>in my entire life posting online You're a loser. Just

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<v Speaker 2>those three, well four technically words. There's a contraction in there.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a loser. And I am going to organize people

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<v Speaker 2>to aid me, and we are going to spend all

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<v Speaker 2>of our time replying to all of these posts with

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<v Speaker 2>You're a loser. Nothing more, nothing less, no arguments, no obscenity,

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<v Speaker 2>is just you're a loser. I like it until it sticks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very zen.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's this one from the anti work. Anti work

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<v Speaker 1>does not mean I should get to live a life

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<v Speaker 1>of a king and eat Dorito's while other people do

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<v Speaker 1>all the hard work. Anti work means it sure would

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<v Speaker 1>be nice if I wasn't impelled by violence to perform

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<v Speaker 1>labor which racks my body with micro injuries that will

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<v Speaker 1>leave me disabled by sixty Oh no, I love the

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<v Speaker 1>term micro injuries is stubbing your it?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you a bull rider? What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>All of those damn injuries and all those fields. People

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<v Speaker 2>with any sense and capability, they do the physical part.

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<v Speaker 1>No micro injuries, I assume they're talking about, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your neck hurts from staring at a computer, or I.

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<v Speaker 3>Got a micro injury yesterday with my paper cut. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys are killing me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I like the whole impelled by violence thing, because

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<v Speaker 2>speech is violence, and persuasion to violence and giving me

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<v Speaker 2>a nasty look is violence, and posting you're a looser

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<v Speaker 2>over and over again on the internet is violence. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're compelling me with violence. Stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to the anti work thread and I

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<v Speaker 1>clicked on this is one of the cool things you

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<v Speaker 1>can do, and Reddit most commented on last day, week, month, year,

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<v Speaker 1>So I went most commented on the last year. Luigi

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<v Speaker 1>Mangioni leads the way. Lots and lots of up with him,

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<v Speaker 1>Lots and lots. He is the poster child of that crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that interesting? The anti work crowd holds him up

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<v Speaker 1>as a hero because he murdered a guy who runs

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<v Speaker 1>a company. Yeah, father, so wild. It's disturbing that there

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<v Speaker 1>are millions of people on this thread.

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<v Speaker 2>I want all those people on a list. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure what I'm gonna do with it yet, but

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<v Speaker 2>it would be handy, but we'll need it eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll end with this one in case you still don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand the anti work ethos, just a reminder. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>think no one should work. We understand there need to

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<v Speaker 1>be doctors, teachers, nurses, cooks, waiters, et cetera for society

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<v Speaker 1>to function. We just believe that no one should have

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<v Speaker 1>to work in order to survive. Food, water, and housing

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<v Speaker 1>should be guaranteed human rights. We were all born into

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<v Speaker 1>the system without being able to agree to it. We

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be punished for existing. We should all be able

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<v Speaker 1>to have our basic needs met, and work should be

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<v Speaker 1>something you want to do to earn more. Uh No,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate I hate them, I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. We got this email from David. I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to do it in mail back then. I dropped

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<v Speaker 2>it and it went under the desk and I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>reach it in time. And he says a huge number

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<v Speaker 2>of people are scamming those EBT funds you're talking about. Jack,

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<v Speaker 2>starve the lazy, go get jobs. His program is starve

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<v Speaker 2>the lazy I like that. I like to get that

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<v Speaker 2>bumper sticker, and I you know, I'm gonna get.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Truck. You're just gonna have to have a trailer behind

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<v Speaker 2>your truck with you know, dozens of tires ready to

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<v Speaker 2>go onto your truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Message. I want the t shirt, I want the hat,

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<v Speaker 1>I want the bumper stickers. Starve the lazy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the armstrong and getty stupid should hurt of the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty first century.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, starve the lazy. That is so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Hansoon, get to work, Buzzy, he's working on it.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, go ahead, Well no, so scamming the EBT.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I've told you guys this before,

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<v Speaker 3>and forgive me if I have. But when I worked

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<v Speaker 3>at a grocery store, I will never forget the day

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<v Speaker 3>that I was running the cash register and this guy

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<v Speaker 3>came through my line and bought an Apple for forty

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<v Speaker 3>nine cents.

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<v Speaker 1>They were doing eat. I don't know if they still

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<v Speaker 1>do this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming they do EBT cash back. Oh so it

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<v Speaker 3>was like a debit card. This a hole had the

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<v Speaker 3>balls to buy the forty nine cent apple, get forty

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<v Speaker 3>dollars or get forty dollars cash back for me go

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<v Speaker 3>and grab a bottle of vodka and then came back

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<v Speaker 3>through my line and it took everything out of my

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<v Speaker 3>soul to not just be like you prick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the lie that the left always claims. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't buy junk food with ear EBT cards, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>buy booze, you can't buy cigarettes. But obviously this is

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<v Speaker 1>lottery tickets. This is the way you get around it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I hate one. Somebody explains to you

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<v Speaker 2>how to do that day one in the in.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bay Area.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a picture of it from like years ago

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<v Speaker 3>at a sports bar and at a Sally's beauty supply

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<v Speaker 3>shop EBT ATM machines.

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<v Speaker 1>Right in front of the shop. So you just stick

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<v Speaker 1>your EBT card in, get.

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<v Speaker 3>The money, and then you go into the sports bar,

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<v Speaker 3>drink your beers, and go buy your hair stensions.

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<v Speaker 1>Starve the lazy, Starve the lazy. Who's with us? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>final question before we end today. That thing I just

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<v Speaker 1>read from the guy who said, Uh, we shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to work to survive. Food, water, housing should be guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 1>We were born into this system without choosing it. Blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah, do you think that person could be convinced

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<v Speaker 1>in a half an hour of reasoning that that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make any sense? Or would they just find a way

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<v Speaker 1>around your logic of where's this stuff supposed to come from?

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<v Speaker 1>I find somebody has to pay. Those people have to

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<v Speaker 1>work to provide enough income to have a tax base

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<v Speaker 1>to provide all these things. Why would anybody work if

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<v Speaker 1>they could get it for free.

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<v Speaker 2>If they're sixteen posting away on the internet, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>could convince them. If they're thirty two, probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do they think? Where do they do they?

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to sound like those commercials, don't turn into

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<v Speaker 1>your parents. Those commercials are hilarious, But did they actually

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<v Speaker 1>think money grows on trees? I mean, where do they

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<v Speaker 1>think the stuff comes from?

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<v Speaker 2>The rich have more than they need, so they need

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<v Speaker 2>to be taxed heavily, and that's where the money comes from.

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<v Speaker 2>How did the rich get their money? They inherited it

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<v Speaker 2>and by exploiting the working class.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Mark says, it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Starve the lazy, Yes, starve the lazy. Who's with me

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<v Speaker 2>as a teenager? The crappy jobs they taught me what

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to do in life and push me

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<v Speaker 1>Forward exactly right, Well, I guess that's it.