Speaker 1: That's why they call it work. It's one more thing.
Speaker 1: I'm strong Andy.
Speaker 2: One more thing.
Speaker 1: Joe and I have recounted over the many years are
Speaker 1: some of our unpleasant jobs we've had in our lives,
Speaker 1: having both started working relatively young as children and uh, child.
Speaker 2: Labor, the scourge of child labor.
Speaker 1: Ever had an unpleasant job, Katie, Yeah, I worked in
Speaker 1: clothing retail on the boss will sucked the worst clothing
Speaker 1: retail sucked. Yeah, I worked at I worked.
Speaker 3: At Pacsun which the store was itself. It was great,
Speaker 3: it was my favorite store. But I was in the
Speaker 3: mall and just all the just bitchy people that rolled
Speaker 3: through there.
Speaker 2: I did that for a summer, I guess it was.
Speaker 2: That's funny. I've kind of forgotten about it. I had
Speaker 2: just gotten married, I was still in college, and I
Speaker 2: needed a gig during the summer, and so I went
Speaker 2: to work at this leather store, not like you know,
Speaker 2: S and M. Just coats and that's sure, I think anyway,
Speaker 2: all right, so is SNM chaps.
Speaker 1: But it smelled great in there. I love the smell
Speaker 1: of leather. Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2: But my boss was this I think he was a
Speaker 2: year or two younger than me, half wit. But he
Speaker 2: was the boss, so I said, okay, I had to
Speaker 2: he would, he would, you know, tell me what to do.
Speaker 2: And half the time he didn't make any sense. And
Speaker 2: he was so full of himself because he was the
Speaker 2: assistant manager of some leather store in a mall in Champagne, Illinois.
Speaker 2: And oh, it's just miserable. You stand there and have
Speaker 2: nothing to do for a long periods of time.
Speaker 1: Nothing to do is worse than being busy by far, Oh,
Speaker 1: just way worse.
Speaker 3: I just remember the rage I felt when I had
Speaker 3: just finished folding a pile of T shirts and these
Speaker 3: idiot teeny boppers came in and they were looking for
Speaker 3: a size and they just screwed the whole thing up,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what am I doing?
Speaker 1: Kanye's got a song about folding khakis at the gap? Really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a really good song. Yeah, it's pretty close to
Speaker 1: digging a hole and filling it back in.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Again, if the manager keeps insulting me, I will be
Speaker 1: assaulting him.
Speaker 2: I can relate.
Speaker 1: But the reason I just brought that up is I'm
Speaker 1: about to read some of these posts from the anti
Speaker 1: work reddit thread, which we've talked about on the air before.
Speaker 1: It's got millions of followers, and it's people who don't
Speaker 1: believe in work, which is weird to me. And I
Speaker 1: don't know how you grew up in such a way.
Speaker 1: Our schools clearly don't make it, but your parents didn't
Speaker 1: make it ever clear to you that everybody's got to
Speaker 1: work and your early jobs are going to be sucky.
Speaker 1: And I'm surprised by that. I mean, that's been such
Speaker 1: a common theme since my kids were little. And my kid,
Speaker 1: my oldest, turned sixteen here in a couple of months
Speaker 1: and he gets just a working I think he's going
Speaker 1: to work at Target. I can't wait for him to
Speaker 1: have a sucky job. I'm looking forward to having him
Speaker 1: having a sucky job. I think I saw what it
Speaker 1: did for my nieces, how they grew so much as people.
Speaker 1: In a year of having a job where you got
Speaker 1: to do a bunch of stuff you don't want to do.
Speaker 1: It's like the best thing that can happen to you.
Speaker 1: So it's amazing to me that so many people think
Speaker 1: that's a horror when I, as a parent, I am looking
Speaker 1: forward to my kids having bad entry level jobs as
Speaker 1: one a reality check and two a motivation for you know,
Speaker 1: coming up with some skills, so you don't do that
Speaker 1: the rest of your life.
Speaker 2: That attitude has to be from inductrination or affluence, I
Speaker 2: would guess, or laziness. But I mean if you because
Speaker 2: I'm thinking back to when I was a kid, and
Speaker 2: if I wanted to buy anything or have anything, I
Speaker 2: had to earn the money. We weren't poor, but there
Speaker 2: was no money to spare. I remember the first time
Speaker 2: as an adult I bought ziplock bags. For instance. There's
Speaker 2: no freaking way we had zip mats in my house
Speaker 2: because they were more expensive than the kind you fold
Speaker 2: over tie with a little twist tie stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So again, we're not poor, but there wasn't a lot
Speaker 2: of money around, and I remember being like, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: I can do that for a while and they'll give
Speaker 2: me money and then I can buy things I want
Speaker 2: and do things I want. Let's get started at age eleven,
Speaker 2: when I first lied about my age. I've always seen
Speaker 2: it as an opportunity, and it is hard to figure
Speaker 2: out people who don't see it like that unless they've
Speaker 2: always had that base of a really comfortable life and
Speaker 2: they think, well, why am I having to work to
Speaker 2: maintain this or I don't know, it seems so strange.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know our old producer Vince, who he
Speaker 1: had not an easy upbringing, but he used to when
Speaker 1: people would complain about things like he particularly fast food
Speaker 1: work because he'd worked at MacDonald's, he'd say, get up
Speaker 1: better job. If you don't like it, get a better job,
Speaker 1: or get some skills where you can get a better job.
Speaker 1: Don't just keep working at McDonald's and think somehow it's
Speaker 1: gonna magically become a fun place to be or easier something,
Speaker 1: or that that entry level job ought to feed a
Speaker 1: family for right. Anyway, to the anti work thread some
Speaker 1: of these. Here's a cartoon. It's got the money bags
Speaker 1: guy from Monopoly with the top hat. Capitalism means freedom
Speaker 1: of choice. Your choice is either get exploited or die
Speaker 1: on the street. Okay, Katie mentioned this one. I guess
Speaker 1: this is making the rounds. It's it's actually Ariana Grande,
Speaker 1: but that's she's looking at her nails.
Speaker 2: So just like.
Speaker 1: A press a press, there you go, what are you
Speaker 1: all mad about today? And the answer was being forced
Speaker 1: to work forty plus hours a week so you can
Speaker 1: get money to pay to live on a planet that
Speaker 1: you didn't even ask to be on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was pretty much verbatim what that chick on.
Speaker 1: TikTok was saying. What a weird way to look at
Speaker 1: the world. That is. You're mad today. You gotta work
Speaker 1: forty hours a week to be able to afford to
Speaker 1: live on a planet you didn't even ask to be.
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, it just born. It just clicked into
Speaker 2: my head. In progressive I was going to say America,
Speaker 2: but it's it's global, practically global. In the progressive world,
Speaker 2: you absolutely must be a victim. That's the only way
Speaker 2: to have any standing. What is the absolute bedrock, lowest
Speaker 2: common denominator, a victimhood? Existence?
Speaker 1: You can't get more basic than that.
Speaker 2: I exist. Therefore I am oppressed because nobody asked me
Speaker 2: if I wanted to exist.
Speaker 3: My parents wanted to add of oppression.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Yeah, look at me being oppressed by existing.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to get me give me stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, gargo a barrel or do something, I mean,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do to check out, that's your option.
Speaker 1: But barrel, what is it? What to fancy euphemism for
Speaker 1: killing yourself?
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that Oh I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it now the barrel.
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh that's gonna be a new insult of mine.
Speaker 1: Oh, gargle a barrel.
Speaker 2: Gurgle a barrel. I still don't get it. Barrel, you'll die.
Speaker 2: Oh of the barrel of I was picturing like a barrel.
Speaker 2: I was too cask of wine. Gargle a barrel. Oh,
Speaker 2: now I get it. Oh that's harsh.
Speaker 3: I laughed at it when I was thinking of the
Speaker 3: wrong thing.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So leave the giffing planet.
Speaker 1: You don't like existing, walk West.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a good idea, but yeah, make
Speaker 2: you so happy and be dead.
Speaker 1: Walk We still your hat floats. That's a good one, boy.
Speaker 1: The old shotgun tons elect me. That's what I heard.
Speaker 2: Oh, well, yeah, that is harsh. But what are you
Speaker 2: What are you freaking saying? I know that you're weird.
Speaker 1: You're complaining about being born. Yes, clearly you don't want
Speaker 1: to be here. Somebody wronged you by bringing you into existence,
Speaker 1: and you see the here's the conundrum here. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: exist if you hadn't been brought into existence.
Speaker 2: So what you're bringing my brain? Still oppressing me with
Speaker 2: your logic? All right, here's I've got my plan, my
Speaker 2: second chapter. If you will. Some people retire and they
Speaker 2: mentor youths or they you know, evolved here in food
Speaker 2: kitchens whatever. I'm going to retire from this gig. I'll
Speaker 2: miss you all, good luck, and I'm going to spend
Speaker 2: in my entire life posting online You're a loser. Just
Speaker 2: those three, well four technically words. There's a contraction in there.
Speaker 2: You're a loser. And I am going to organize people
Speaker 2: to aid me, and we are going to spend all
Speaker 2: of our time replying to all of these posts with
Speaker 2: You're a loser. Nothing more, nothing less, no arguments, no obscenity,
Speaker 2: is just you're a loser. I like it until it sticks.
Speaker 2: It's very zen.
Speaker 1: So there's this one from the anti work. Anti work
Speaker 1: does not mean I should get to live a life
Speaker 1: of a king and eat Dorito's while other people do
Speaker 1: all the hard work. Anti work means it sure would
Speaker 1: be nice if I wasn't impelled by violence to perform
Speaker 1: labor which racks my body with micro injuries that will
Speaker 1: leave me disabled by sixty Oh no, I love the
Speaker 1: term micro injuries is stubbing your it?
Speaker 2: Are you a bull rider? What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: All of those damn injuries and all those fields. People
Speaker 2: with any sense and capability, they do the physical part.
Speaker 1: No micro injuries, I assume they're talking about, like you know,
Speaker 1: your neck hurts from staring at a computer, or I.
Speaker 3: Got a micro injury yesterday with my paper cut. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you guys are killing me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the whole impelled by violence thing, because
Speaker 2: speech is violence, and persuasion to violence and giving me
Speaker 2: a nasty look is violence, and posting you're a looser
Speaker 2: over and over again on the internet is violence. So
Speaker 2: you're compelling me with violence. Stop it.
Speaker 1: So I went to the anti work thread and I
Speaker 1: clicked on this is one of the cool things you
Speaker 1: can do, and Reddit most commented on last day, week, month, year,
Speaker 1: So I went most commented on the last year. Luigi
Speaker 1: Mangioni leads the way. Lots and lots of up with him,
Speaker 1: Lots and lots. He is the poster child of that crowd.
Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting? The anti work crowd holds him up
Speaker 1: as a hero because he murdered a guy who runs
Speaker 1: a company. Yeah, father, so wild. It's disturbing that there
Speaker 1: are millions of people on this thread.
Speaker 2: I want all those people on a list. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure what I'm gonna do with it yet, but
Speaker 2: it would be handy, but we'll need it eventually.
Speaker 1: I'll end with this one in case you still don't
Speaker 1: understand the anti work ethos, just a reminder. We don't
Speaker 1: think no one should work. We understand there need to
Speaker 1: be doctors, teachers, nurses, cooks, waiters, et cetera for society
Speaker 1: to function. We just believe that no one should have
Speaker 1: to work in order to survive. Food, water, and housing
Speaker 1: should be guaranteed human rights. We were all born into
Speaker 1: the system without being able to agree to it. We
Speaker 1: shouldn't be punished for existing. We should all be able
Speaker 1: to have our basic needs met, and work should be
Speaker 1: something you want to do to earn more. Uh No,
Speaker 1: I hate I hate them, I really do.
Speaker 2: You know. We got this email from David. I was
Speaker 2: going to do it in mail back then. I dropped
Speaker 2: it and it went under the desk and I couldn't
Speaker 2: reach it in time. And he says a huge number
Speaker 2: of people are scamming those EBT funds you're talking about. Jack,
Speaker 2: starve the lazy, go get jobs. His program is starve
Speaker 2: the lazy I like that. I like to get that
Speaker 2: bumper sticker, and I you know, I'm gonna get.
Speaker 3: A lot of.
Speaker 2: Truck. You're just gonna have to have a trailer behind
Speaker 2: your truck with you know, dozens of tires ready to
Speaker 2: go onto your truck.
Speaker 1: Message. I want the t shirt, I want the hat,
Speaker 1: I want the bumper stickers. Starve the lazy.
Speaker 2: That's the armstrong and getty stupid should hurt of the
Speaker 2: twenty first century.
Speaker 1: Yes, starve the lazy. That is so good.
Speaker 2: Hansoon, get to work, Buzzy, he's working on it.
Speaker 3: But no, go ahead, Well no, so scamming the EBT.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've told you guys this before,
Speaker 3: and forgive me if I have. But when I worked
Speaker 3: at a grocery store, I will never forget the day
Speaker 3: that I was running the cash register and this guy
Speaker 3: came through my line and bought an Apple for forty
Speaker 3: nine cents.
Speaker 1: They were doing eat. I don't know if they still
Speaker 1: do this.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming they do EBT cash back. Oh so it
Speaker 3: was like a debit card. This a hole had the
Speaker 3: balls to buy the forty nine cent apple, get forty
Speaker 3: dollars or get forty dollars cash back for me go
Speaker 3: and grab a bottle of vodka and then came back
Speaker 3: through my line and it took everything out of my
Speaker 3: soul to not just be like you prick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the lie that the left always claims. You
Speaker 1: can't buy junk food with ear EBT cards, you can't
Speaker 1: buy booze, you can't buy cigarettes. But obviously this is
Speaker 1: lottery tickets. This is the way you get around it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I hate one. Somebody explains to you
Speaker 2: how to do that day one in the in.
Speaker 1: The Bay Area.
Speaker 3: I have a picture of it from like years ago
Speaker 3: at a sports bar and at a Sally's beauty supply
Speaker 3: shop EBT ATM machines.
Speaker 1: Right in front of the shop. So you just stick
Speaker 1: your EBT card in, get.
Speaker 3: The money, and then you go into the sports bar,
Speaker 3: drink your beers, and go buy your hair stensions.
Speaker 1: Starve the lazy, Starve the lazy. Who's with us? Well,
Speaker 1: final question before we end today. That thing I just
Speaker 1: read from the guy who said, Uh, we shouldn't have
Speaker 1: to work to survive. Food, water, housing should be guaranteed.
Speaker 1: We were born into this system without choosing it. Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, do you think that person could be convinced
Speaker 1: in a half an hour of reasoning that that doesn't
Speaker 1: make any sense? Or would they just find a way
Speaker 1: around your logic of where's this stuff supposed to come from?
Speaker 1: I find somebody has to pay. Those people have to
Speaker 1: work to provide enough income to have a tax base
Speaker 1: to provide all these things. Why would anybody work if
Speaker 1: they could get it for free.
Speaker 2: If they're sixteen posting away on the internet, yeah, I
Speaker 2: could convince them. If they're thirty two, probably not.
Speaker 1: But what do they think? Where do they do they?
Speaker 1: I hate to sound like those commercials, don't turn into
Speaker 1: your parents. Those commercials are hilarious, But did they actually
Speaker 1: think money grows on trees? I mean, where do they
Speaker 1: think the stuff comes from?
Speaker 2: The rich have more than they need, so they need
Speaker 2: to be taxed heavily, and that's where the money comes from.
Speaker 2: How did the rich get their money? They inherited it
Speaker 2: and by exploiting the working class.
Speaker 1: It's Mark says, it's fun.
Speaker 2: Starve the lazy, Yes, starve the lazy. Who's with me
Speaker 2: as a teenager? The crappy jobs they taught me what
Speaker 2: I didn't want to do in life and push me
Speaker 1: Forward exactly right, Well, I guess that's it.