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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson, and

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Speaker 1: Matt I mentioned that that Joe Schobert will be on

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Speaker 1: the field today for the Steelers and uh uh, you

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Speaker 1: know they'll they'll start incorporating him into the system. Um

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Speaker 1: brings up the the idea. And Mike Tollin was asked

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Speaker 1: about this yesterday and he really he answered, but he

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Speaker 1: didn't answer to kind of give him a smile. You know,

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Speaker 1: does this give you the opportunity to play more nickel?

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Speaker 1: Is he now in the running for as a dime

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Speaker 1: linebacker spot? How's that all gonna play out? Um? The

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Speaker 1: Steelers last season played their base three four defense thirty

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Speaker 1: one three percent of the time. Now, I'd love to

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Speaker 1: know the breakdown on that. We just had the season

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Speaker 1: told us we don't have the pre Bush post Bush, Yes,

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Speaker 1: because I think it's night and day. I think you

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Speaker 1: started searching the post Bush. Because I've done a lot

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Speaker 1: of research on this and around the league as well,

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Speaker 1: and over the last couple of years. So there's a

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Speaker 1: just just preface it. With the Steelers, there's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of an anomaly with them in that I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of his post Bush verse pre Bush, of course,

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Speaker 1: and it depends what you call Marcus Allen, which is

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Speaker 1: gonna get when we start talking dime versus other, because

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what list you're looking at, but I

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Speaker 1: put a spreadsheet together. Okay, you found a spreadsheet, good

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Speaker 1: because it's your list. Actually it is. So in that

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Speaker 1: one they called Marcus Allen a defensive back I think,

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Speaker 1: which the defensive back number, because the Patriots and the

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Speaker 1: Steelers were the highest percentage in the league of other

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Speaker 1: and what that meant is either a goal line which

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Speaker 1: everyone plays the same amount of, basically, or seven defensive backs.

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Speaker 1: So it really goes to an extreme that they were

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Speaker 1: a high high percentage of seven defensive backs. But I'm

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Speaker 1: almost positive they counted Marcus Allen as one of them,

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Speaker 1: because I went back and I looked at Steeler snap counts.

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Speaker 1: He played it over two snaps, so he had the

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Speaker 1: figure in somewhere. But he was a linebacker, but he's

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Speaker 1: really a linebacker. But he wore a defensive back number

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Speaker 1: and came in the league as a strong safety. So

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Speaker 1: whoever put that together probably thought he's a strong safety.

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Speaker 1: So the lines can be a little blurred. This again

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Speaker 1: goes back to kind of what we talked about. You

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Speaker 1: get the ideas on the field with the PFF stuff

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Speaker 1: or whoever's looking at the team, do they really know

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Speaker 1: what the personnel is? Do they know a little foggy

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Speaker 1: you know, Marcus Allen is a linebacker, real safety, that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And some of the lines are blurrier too,

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Speaker 1: like some of these players. I can't come with a

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Speaker 1: great example. Well for example, like when when the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: when the Steelers play their dime, they consider Cam Sutton

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Speaker 1: a linebacker, right, but he's a defensive back. He's playing

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Speaker 1: he's yeh, he's playing the old Troy Paula Malo dime

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Speaker 1: linebacker spot. Right, But he's really a defensive back, right,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So he would count towards

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Speaker 1: a heavy defensive back setting. I mean, it's it's like

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Speaker 1: we talked about Lebron, Like is a really twelve personnel

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Speaker 1: if it's Ebron fire move two receivers, Yeah, he's still

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Speaker 1: a receiver. So there used to be a lot cut

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Speaker 1: more cut and dry, but these are very useful. So

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Speaker 1: the Steelers played thirty one point base that's their three

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Speaker 1: four tyson Alalhue on the field, traditional lebou three four

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Speaker 1: five man front, two backers um the league average, but

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Speaker 1: you might shock people. I mean base for three teams,

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Speaker 1: like the Stevels just played the Eagles. The Eagles are

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Speaker 1: like at the top of the league with a base

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Speaker 1: four man front with two defensive ends, two defensive tackles,

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Speaker 1: Like we all grew up knowing that doesn't happen much anymore. So,

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Speaker 1: like a quarter of the players in the league are

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Speaker 1: a base front. The league on average played nickel fifty

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Speaker 1: eight point nine percent of the time, so basically at

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Speaker 1: the time, like so essentially six out of every ten

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Speaker 1: defensive snaps were in nickel. The Steelers last year were

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Speaker 1: thirty nine point seven percent. Yes, that's the problem, which

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Speaker 1: we'll get to. They were in dime seven teen point

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Speaker 1: three percent of the time, the league averagers thirteen point nine.

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Speaker 1: And then that other one other category was eleven point

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Speaker 1: seven percent the league averagers three point two, which even

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Speaker 1: with the Marcus Allen factor, I think that they were

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Speaker 1: still sort of heavy. Again we're talking about seven, we're

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Speaker 1: still pretty heavy in other because they played a lot

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Speaker 1: that that's sort of interesting as well, well, they also

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Speaker 1: They also played some things where they would take um,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of who they would take off,

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Speaker 1: like the games where they would keep high Smith on

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Speaker 1: of the Nickel sly cornerback, probably post Bush though no

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Speaker 1: week before they played the zam shid that the Steelers

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Speaker 1: play the Ravens and Browns twice, which I think is noteworthy.

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Speaker 1: Or if you played the Patriots twice, you're probably gonna

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Speaker 1: be a little heavier but heavy. They never bring you know,

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Speaker 1: four receivers on this on the field, I mean four

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Speaker 1: the Steelers sixteen games or against run heavy division opponents

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Speaker 1: and I know Steels included. As to your Highsmith point,

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Speaker 1: people are searching for what personnel to play against the

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Speaker 1: Ravens right now, so they'll throw some minorthodox groupings out there,

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Speaker 1: which excuse things a little, but you still get the point, like,

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Speaker 1: do you have the whole league right there? Yeah? Pull

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Speaker 1: up Buffalo is real quick, because I've been referencing them.

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Speaker 1: They're the week one opponent. I'm almost positive they lead

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Speaker 1: the league in Nickel. Yeah, and no matter what you do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they're playing the Ravens against twenty two

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Speaker 1: personnel there in Nicol's playing four receivers. If you're looking at, hey,

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Speaker 1: what's naj Harris gonna do in Week one? He's gonna

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Speaker 1: see Nickel, He's gonna see Nickel, He's gonna run against Nickel.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna write right, And that's what the Bills want

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Speaker 1: you to do, you know, I mean that sounds counterintuitive,

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Speaker 1: but they're very analytically driven team. They want you to

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Speaker 1: run the football more because passing is more efficient, but

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Speaker 1: more than anything, which brings us back to the Bush

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Speaker 1: Chober conversation. They don't want to be subbing guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you're there, they're both Their safeties are very similar.

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Speaker 1: They're very versatile. They're both their linebackers. It's Milano and Edmonds,

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Speaker 1: and even when Milano was hurt last year, they still

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Speaker 1: stayed in Nickel a Ton. They rotate their defensive front.

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Speaker 1: They don't have they don't have pass rushers like the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to, you know, they don't have Hayward

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Speaker 1: that's the way they're built, and that's why they used

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Speaker 1: the ninth pick overall on Edmunds. But here's there's a bush.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing that you know, and everybody looks at

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Speaker 1: the playoff game, what the Browns did. The Browns would

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Speaker 1: come out in heavy personnel. The Steelers would counter that

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Speaker 1: They're gonna run the football here. They get their Chubb

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Speaker 1: and that personal are so important. That's I mean, step

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Speaker 1: one of the offensive coordinators. If I put that's why

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Speaker 1: people's gript plays. If I put thirteen personnel, what guys,

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Speaker 1: what are they countering? What are they countering with? We

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Speaker 1: thought it would be this, but wow, they're gonna play

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Speaker 1: nickel against that. Okay, maybe we'll run a little more,

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Speaker 1: you know, or we're gonna split out in the Joku

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Speaker 1: more because there they are on their base three four.

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Speaker 1: There's no great answers. But when you have linebackers that

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Speaker 1: easier because now if the Browns do that, you can

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Speaker 1: leave your nickel on the field. Yes, you've got your

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Speaker 1: they're present an issue. We're gonna present an issue for

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Speaker 1: any offensive line, even Cleveland. You've got two linebackers now

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Speaker 1: a nickel that's has some size to him. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: you can do that. Now you can come to I

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Speaker 1: mean when they when they take Cooper or Joku or whoever,

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Speaker 1: it isn't split him out wide and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: now you got a wide receiver in the slot. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So Devin Bush can can run with Jarvis Landry right,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he's he does disadvantage. You wouldn't

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Speaker 1: want him doing it for four seconds, but he can.

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Speaker 1: He can do it for two seconds, and he needs

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Speaker 1: to do better than Boss. He's still gonna be immediately open.

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Speaker 1: Or if he does make a catch, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a four yard catch. He's gonna tackle the catch and right,

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Speaker 1: So again, four yard games aren't. That's not gonna beat you.

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Speaker 1: People don't care about that, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's the one. It's it's to play. Everybody points to Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers get within a score in the second half

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Speaker 1: of that game, Mike Tomlin punts uh fourth and short

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Speaker 1: which they did. You get into a third down situation.

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Speaker 1: and third and short, and Splain gets matched up on

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry. He has to play somebody. He's gonna play

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Speaker 1: zone here. So he's getting that guy, and it turns

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Speaker 1: modern football. Yeah, and everybody says, what a genius Chevins

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Speaker 1: Stefanski is. That's what everybody does. The other thing about that,

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Speaker 1: the Browns had just played the Steelers. You talked about

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Speaker 1: scripting the plays. They knew what personnel groupings they were,

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Speaker 1: They knew what they were going to see, and all

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Speaker 1: division teams do anyway by then. But you're playing that week.

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Speaker 1: You know, whatever injuries didn't change things. There's not much

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Speaker 1: ambiguity of at all. You know what's gonna happen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so when we do so he spent the whole previous

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Speaker 1: is a huge advantage of there's no if fans or

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Speaker 1: butts about it, and they're not calling holding and and

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Speaker 1: and they call more past interference penalties last year, and

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Speaker 1: you don't have crowd always helping you anything like that too.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of problems. Um and again,

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Speaker 1: they're really hard on defensive backs that get clingy, and

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Speaker 1: they aren't with the linemen blocking, and uh damn it.

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Speaker 1: You have an extensive background in basketball I mean it's

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Speaker 1: kind of similar to that. I mean, we can do

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Speaker 1: vice versa, or look for the mismatch. And if well,

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Speaker 1: you know, if if I get my center matched up

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Speaker 1: on their point guard on a on a pick and roll,

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Speaker 1: well we're gonna score if I get you know, you

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Speaker 1: just try to limit the damage. If I get my

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Speaker 1: really gave up a first down there, yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: we're gonna pump it inside to him. If I get

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Speaker 1: my my my point guards matched up on their center,

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Speaker 1: think Melvin Ingram comes into plan that's point to right

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lully here with Matt Williamson. It is time

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Speaker 1: for the Fantasy Football Focus. As we talked about earlier

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Speaker 1: in the show. Matt, we we've got a full week

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Speaker 1: It'd be great to put Lock out there and say,

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe it hurts Denver's defense because he gives

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Speaker 1: Don't you think it's easier though, to go from Lock

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Speaker 1: Smith is two to three weeks away. Still, well, this

423
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Speaker 1: was in early August, so he's probably still another probably

424
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Speaker 1: opening another week or two. You might see him, probably

425
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Speaker 1: not next week's preseason game, but I would imagine he

426
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Speaker 1: has to play in that last one. I would think

427
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: a little as a first rookie that you're counting on

428
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Speaker 1: at a week position. I mean, I know him and

429
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: Jalen Herbs played together at Bama four years ago, but

430
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: that's not exactly right now. I would think you'd want

431
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: him out there for the last one. A tough guy

432
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Speaker 1: to draft. If not, I don't get picked in every

433
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Speaker 1: fantasy draft, especially dynasty stuff. Like you're looking at this

434
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Speaker 1: going okay, he's ye, I would say, I mean all

435
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: tiebreakers would not go into somebody's healthy right right. Justin

436
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: fields we mentioned fourteen and twenty for one forty two

437
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Speaker 1: and a touchdown, he rushed for thirty three yards and

438
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Speaker 1: a touchdown. This is I mean, he's gonna put a

439
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Speaker 1: fan sooner or later, like I would draft him. I mean,

440
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Speaker 1: you also, obviously what I would do, take your take

441
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Speaker 1: your star quarterback early, take him as the burden hand

442
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Speaker 1: later in the draft, because he's not gonna be a

443
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Speaker 1: start Day one starter, probably not, but I don't know

444
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Speaker 1: how long they keep on the field. That's exactly the point,

445
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Speaker 1: Like with him and Lance both um, I'm taking a

446
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Speaker 1: high end starter and then drafting those guys later. You're

447
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: gonna play Tannehill and have those guys would be stronger

448
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Speaker 1: elsewhere potentially, But then you know, if it goes to

449
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Speaker 1: week for you know, the Bears don't have their buy

450
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Speaker 1: until week ten. If it goes to week ten, you

451
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Speaker 1: screw You got screwed. Yeah, you just ate up a

452
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Speaker 1: roster spot. But if you take let's say you take

453
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Speaker 1: a you know, not my homes but let's say let's yeah,

454
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Speaker 1: Wilson are one of those Tier one this too, which

455
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 1: guys who's gonna be You're gonna be fine starting all

456
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: season long. But then these guys come in. Let's say

457
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Speaker 1: they come in week six, year four and one or

458
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: five and five and one, whatever your record is, four

459
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: and two. Two starting quarterbacks are heard around the league.

460
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Speaker 1: These are big trade. It will come like this. They

461
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: go out and he does you know fourteen in the

462
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: touchdown and Rush's thirty. Trade the starter and you rule

463
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Speaker 1: with them, right, You trade the name value, trade the

464
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: name guy and live with you could get something bit

465
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Speaker 1: you know you got you got a guy like Wilson,

466
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Speaker 1: or you've got Aaron Rodgers or something like that. There'll

467
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: be a market for those guys. I think Jalen hurt something.

468
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: It was only three or four games average, like the

469
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 1: eighth most Fantasy points per game. I think both these guys,

470
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Speaker 1: I think a better pass, there's better situation, and at

471
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: least so if all of a sudden you've got two

472
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Speaker 1: top five guys. Now you've got people knocking on your door. Hey,

473
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: you've got two good guys here. I need a quarterback.

474
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: I like that strategy of Ton, but I also would

475
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Speaker 1: be boy if I can get Waller and my quarter

476
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 1: backs or Cousins, Fields and Lands, and I didn't pay

477
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: much for anybody now either aft the two of them

478
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: those even or Cousins and Fields or whatever, you know,

479
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: something like that, or I get that. But again, if

480
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: if if it's nine weeks into the season, then you're lost,

481
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: You're you're getting killed and you get your quarterback, but

482
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: you're losing the quarterback position by ten points every week.

483
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how the Bears will handle it.

484
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: I mean passing Jimmy should be harder than passing Dalton,

485
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: you would think. And they're a better team, and they're

486
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: a better team with more expectations. I think they're a

487
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: smarter team. But it's hard to go to the cam

488
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Speaker 1: Heywards of the world and say it reminds me. I

489
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: think Shannon him will use the flat of Lamar. I

490
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: think he'll have a package for Land. I think Lance

491
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: will play every game. Yeah yeah, but it won't be

492
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: enough to be a fantasy No, so just be annoying.

493
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill is should be Taysom hill is ship and

494
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: except he won't have Like last year, we're Taysom Hill

495
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: was listed as a tight end, but that was a

496
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 1: cheat coat, right exactly. But it's hard to go to Terrell,

497
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: Suggs and Marshall y'all and say we're gonna play Joe,

498
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: even though you guys see Lamar in practice every day.

499
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Speaker 1: I know he's better. Yeah, what do you think of this?

500
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown started the game for the Dolphins, like, yeah,

501
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: he's sneaky, Yeah, because Gascon isn't much to overcome. No,

502
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: he's really good in protection. Their old line stinks. Steps

503
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: in sixteen to seven. Gaskins is going way way too

504
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: early in my opinion, we all the all the fantasy

505
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Speaker 1: drafts that we've done, we've never drafted around Miles Gaskin.

506
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Speaker 1: And that's the reason that third tier of acts. I mean,

507
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: he's going to top twenty four. I mean, he's a

508
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: starter in most fantasy leagues in Week one, and he's

509
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Speaker 1: a seventh round pick that I actually don't like the

510
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Speaker 1: fact that Malcolm Brown started this game, because that's gonna

511
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Speaker 1: that's gonna tell other people, like if if this continues

512
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: in the preseason, Gaston's ad is gonna fall, and so

513
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Speaker 1: people who actually know, like I want somebody to d

514
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Speaker 1: half Miles Gasking in round three. Oh yeah, I mean

515
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Speaker 1: that's that's not good. He probably won't be on my

516
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: he won't be on my roster. Malcolm Brown's interesting to

517
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Speaker 1: me because he would have been not a fantasy note.

518
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: But I mean, I know the stud sign blaged now

519
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: It's like, it's fine. He would have been a great

520
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: guy to be the placeholder type dude, reliable, better, you know,

521
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: cheaper version of Jamal Williams. You know that type of dude.

522
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Speaker 1: You know, probably be their goal line guy. The more

523
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Speaker 1: I think about it, too, yeah, it's gasking. They get

524
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: the goal line carries. No, No, it'll be Brown. Brown

525
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: was annoying last year with the Chargers or with the Rams.

526
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: I should say he'll be and that with better people

527
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: in front of him. Yeah, he'll be that same guy

528
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Speaker 1: this year. The sneaky guy to take in the last round. Yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: I take him. If you're looking at some of those

530
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Speaker 1: mid round backs that you know, the again, the Jamal Williams,

531
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Speaker 1: the maybe not as high as Melvin Gordon, but he'sn't

532
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: gonna get carried, but he's gonna get carries. And as

533
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Speaker 1: we saw last year with them, whoever there ended up

534
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Speaker 1: being their lead back was their lead back. Yes, I

535
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: think we've seen that too. No, he's a sneaky guy

536
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: to pick up and get some games. You'll get some

537
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: games out of him where he's getting twenty five carries

538
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: touches somehow a gascon injury away from really being something. Yeah,

539
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't think Obed's gonna get in the way. I

540
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: think he's definitely third. Um. The Chargers are not expected

541
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: to extend Mike Williams this year. According to Jeremy Fowler, Um,

542
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: he's making a fortune right now. Yeah, fifth year option.

543
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: I just wonder, you know, does that make them less

544
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: inclined to kind of feature him in the offense a

545
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: little bit? Is Herbert is Herbert a guy that's just

546
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: gonna throw to the open guy. So Mike Williams has

547
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: all the promise in the world, but he's never had

548
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: more than fifty catches in the season. No, I know,

549
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: and he's somebody I've targeted like crazy, but his ADP

550
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: started to go up and people have caught on, you know,

551
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: I targeted him like crazy. And the off season when

552
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: everyone's down on him, however, Herbert completed over a hunter

553
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: passes to Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen missed two games and

554
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: pulled out of two games, so he really only played

555
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: thirteen games and had over a thousand yards. I mean,

556
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear who his dude is, and that's not

557
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: going to change. A lot of the buzz about Mike

558
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: Williams came when they hired Lombardi as their as their coordinator,

559
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: and Lombardi flat out said Williams is our X and

560
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: everyone said, well, Michael Thomas was his ex there, so

561
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: he's gonna catch a million bazillion balls. I don't know

562
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: what that's happening. I don't think. Yeah, I don't know

563
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: that it is. I think I think you're once again

564
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: looking at a guy and Mike Williams who's touchdown dependent. Yeah,

565
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of ability there. I like him, um,

566
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure there's anyone in the league that

567
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: values his body less too. I mean, like he falls

568
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: awkward and lands on his head and runs in the

569
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 1: goal post to get Clemson, and like he's had a

570
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: lot of injuries because he just puts themselves in harm's

571
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: way a lot. The guy that we've talked about in

572
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: as a later round draft pick a couple of times

573
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: as run del Moore. I watched a lot of him

574
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: yesterday he caught three of the four targets thrown his

575
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: way for twenty three yards, which have done so great,

576
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: but rushed two tons for sixteen yards. Yeah, he could

577
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: be that kind of I was watching that game live.

578
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: It's one of the few that I paid a lot

579
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: of attention to because he has not been for me

580
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: at all, including Dynasty, because he's five seven, he's on

581
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: five seven and a half. He's five seven, you know,

582
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: on his tippy toes, and there just aren't many guys

583
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: in the world to do that that produce fantasy stats.

584
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: But they featured him like crazy, and it's he's really twitchy,

585
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: really twitchy, and you see all the jet motion. And

586
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: I think he'll get a carrier to a game, which

587
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: for a receivers a big deal and it's kind of

588
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: like a quarterback running um. And I know Hopkins will

589
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: get a ton of targets and a J GREENI I

590
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: think they'll find a way to get the ball in

591
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: his hands, yeah, five or six times a game, just

592
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: because he's such a danger to to take it to

593
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: the to the house. One of my worries was everything

594
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: was gonna be behind the line of scrimmage, r p

595
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: O s, those of things. But he ran more traditional

596
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: routes than I expected. And I don't have a lot

597
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: of Kingsbury faith, but I was just thinking about their

598
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: offense going The Cardinals might be undervalued across the board.

599
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: Their lines come along, you know. They added Hudson and

600
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: Humphries and terrible Now Kyler was the number one quarterback

601
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: before he got hurt. Edmonds and Connor are good enough,

602
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: you know, and Christian Kirk, which I don't want either

603
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: one of them, but no, I'm not gonna pay what

604
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: they call again, I'll let somebody else draft those guys

605
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: and I'll take somebody else. Now, I think that offense

606
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: could be something you can buy cheap on right now. Yeah, absolutely,

607
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: but definitely things to keep an eye on. Here. One

608
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: other guy from the draft of this year who's went

609
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: high and there was some expectation there, Dwayne Eskridge. He's

610
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: on the pup with a toe. Uh. He could be

611
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: activated next week, so they're gonna need him. I mean,

612
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: he's probably their three. He's probably just another offense I've

613
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: been buying. Yeah, so keep an eye on that as well.

614
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Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it for the fantasy football focus.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll be speaking with Bob Labriola,

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Speaker 1: editor of Steelers Digest and Steelers dot Com. Uh. Right

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Speaker 1: after this, he is Matt Williamson. I'm deal LOLLI. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio, Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Football Leaves here seven. You're listening to s

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Speaker 1: n R. Welcome back. I'm Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: and we're pleased to be joined at this time by

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Speaker 1: Bob Labriola, the Esteemed Bob Labriola, editor of Steelers digested

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Speaker 1: Steelers dot com. How are you doing, Bob. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what fellows um. One of the good things about

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Speaker 1: us not being in Latrobe is if you would have

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Speaker 1: tried to get me on the phone at in the

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Speaker 1: morning on a Sunday we were in Latrobe, I might

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Speaker 1: have just had you forward the call to the pier um.

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Speaker 1: But we're not in Latrobe, so I'm here with bells on. Well,

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Speaker 1: we just would have come down the hall and knocked

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Speaker 1: on your door. Probably you still wouldn't have gotten up,

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Speaker 1: but I would. I would. I'll tell you this too. Deal.

633
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if you would have been so bright

634
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: eyed killed under those circumstances. Either, highly unlikely. These eight

635
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: am starts have not been I'll tell you what. I'm

636
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: used to this now. I'm waking up every morning now sixty,

637
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 1: which is just bad bad for me. Usually, Bob, if

638
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm up this early, I'm killing something. But it's something

639
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to Yes, I digress. Uh, Bob, you

640
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: had a piece on Steelers dot com about the trade

641
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: UH the Steelers made for Joe Schobert. Tell you know

642
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: you always want to pick up the phone. UH. For

643
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: people who haven't read that yet that I was asked

644
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: this a lot. How does a trade like this happen?

645
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: Explain to people how a trade like this happens. Well,

646
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that you know, it's

647
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: just a fact of life in the NFL, is that

648
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: whenever a team goes to a coach slash new regime,

649
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: and especially if it's a first time NFL head coach. Uh,

650
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: you you always keep we always pay attention to those

651
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: those teams roster moves and how they're utilizing personnel and

652
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff because a lot of times

653
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: those guys want to surround themselves with you know, for

654
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: lack of a better phrase, there guys. And so you know,

655
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is in that situation with urban Meyer. Now Urban

656
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: Myers not only the first time NFL head coach, but

657
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: he's the first time NFL coach. Joe Schobert was a

658
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: huge signing fifty three and a half million um of

659
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: the previous regime. So, um, you know, he didn't I

660
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: don't know if he didn't fit or urban Meyer decided

661
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: he was too expensive, or it wasn't worth the prize, whatever,

662
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. I think they signed. They brought

663
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: in a guy who had been with I'm trying to

664
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: remember another Vikings dude, Wilson. Think yeah, and they already

665
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: had Jack, who played really well left So I don't

666
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: know if it maybe their linebackers coach had a relationship

667
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: with Wilson. Whatever it was, Schobert just didn't. He was

668
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: the odd man out. Yeah, So I mean, um, that's

669
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: what happened. The phone rang, the Steelers answered, Um, you know,

670
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: would you be interested in Joe? Schobert said yesterday. We

671
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: didn't need a long time to decide, yes, we would,

672
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: especially you know, we remember in the Eagles game, what

673
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: did they I think the Eagles first maybe five out

674
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: of the first seven plays were passes to the tight ends,

675
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: either Gobert or zach ertz Um. And you know, it's

676
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: obvious that that is not a strength of the Steelers

677
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: defense and really hasn't been maybe since you know, the

678
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: height of Ryan Shear Shaz time in Pittsburgh, right before

679
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: he was injured. But um, so yeah, I mean it was,

680
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: you know, just something that you're trying to work work

681
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: out some of the details. Um. And it didn't take long.

682
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: And um, you know, like I say, don't don't necessarily

683
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: let all those calls from a strange area, go to voicemail.

684
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: You might miss out on something good, especially if you

685
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: work for an NFL T People might not realize this

686
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: because when you hear like scouts, you think about they're

687
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: at l s U, they're at Oklahoma Area Scouts. But

688
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: those pro scouts are really important in a situation like

689
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: this too, because if you're Jacksonville and we're thinking about

690
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: shopping Showberg, you go, you go, grab all your pro

691
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: scouts and say, give me the teams in your division

692
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: or area that might be interested. Okay, here's a list

693
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: of five, and the Steelers were on it. We'll get

694
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: in touch with them. And then the opposite way, you know,

695
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: the Steelers as soon as they get that call from Jacksonville,

696
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: whoever they're Jacksonville pro scout is, what's your great on showers?

697
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: Were Colebridge first first call? Hey, Brandon Hunt, what what's

698
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: our you know, what's our thoughts on this guy? Yeah?

699
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: How do they play last year? Right? And and he's

700
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: gonna ask whoever's in charge of the Jags, you know,

701
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: I mean, like so they have a there's somebody that's

702
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: on top of every player in the league on both sides.

703
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,919
Speaker 1: Of this. That's why they can happen so quick. Well,

704
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: and you know, all due respect to Brandon Hunt, but

705
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: because Joe Show would played four years for the Cleveland Brands,

706
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that conversation with much more than the

707
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: head coach. Well again, you you have to and they

708
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: did play the Jay, but you busy the same guy

709
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: Web see that guy you know we had. We didn't

710
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: get to see him twice last year like we did

711
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: usually do. So is he still that guy? Okay, yeah,

712
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: that's an easy one. And I'm sure picking up Hayden

713
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: from Cleveland wasn't hard either. And then I don't know

714
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: if you um, you know, I actually sorry, I apologize

715
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: for doing research, um, but we don't do that around here.

716
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: You know, what I would call the Miles Garrett game,

717
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: um was ten ples two picks against the Steelers. I mean,

718
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: he had a huge game, uh in that victory for

719
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: Cleveland in Cleveland. And so you know, again you have

720
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: that very fresh in your memory if you're on the

721
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers don't turn over their coaching staff

722
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: very often or much, and so you know, all of

723
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: that stuff is um, you know, imprinted in the memory

724
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: of a lot of the people who are going to

725
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: be involved in the decision making. So, you know, the

726
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: schober thing. I'm just gonna keep going back to what

727
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlins said. It didn't take long. Tomlin was probably

728
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: has probably cursed Joe Schobert a few times. Um, you

729
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: know it was and I'm sure that whoever answered the

730
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: call once the word got back to Kevin Colbert, Um,

731
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: you know, his answer was, yes, we're interested until them.

732
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: They don't need to call anyone else because you don't

733
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: want to. You don't want to get involved in any

734
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: of all. You want to start driving the price up.

735
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: And the sixth round pick. I mean, seriously, Um, you know,

736
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: I know that that's a good deal, question, Bob. In

737
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: the last essentially six weeks, the Steelers have now signed

738
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: Tred Turner that he had it up, Melvin Ingram, and

739
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: now Joe Schobert. The cost was a six round draft pick,

740
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: and I believe, according to my figures, ten point three

741
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: million dollars against the salary cap. That's not that's not

742
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: that's not bad. Yeah, And I mean, you know I do.

743
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about this and specifically, as I

744
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: mentioned in the story that I wrote, but you know,

745
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: I also don't believe that, um, the Steelers are going

746
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: to um inherit or be burdened by the specific details

747
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: of the showbur contract because, um, you know, Art Rooney

748
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: the Second has said that resign and t J. Watt

749
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: is a priority, uh, and that the team wants to

750
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: get it done by the deadline, which for the Steelers

751
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: always is the start of the regular season, and just

752
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: to put a date to it this particular year in

753
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: September twelve against Buffalo. So you know, we're seeing a

754
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: lot of things already about um from the uninformed national

755
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: people quote unquote that this now will preclude any extension

756
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: with t J. Watt and he's going to become an

757
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: unrestricted free agent. I'm not ready to go there. It

758
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: might not get done, it might not you know how

759
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: those work. They work. I'm pretty sure that he's not

760
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: going to become an unrestricted free agent though either right. Well,

761
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: but um, you know, Art Rooty the Second doesn't talk

762
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: to hear the sound of his voice. I mean that's

763
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: not something that uh, that's not the way he operates.

764
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: And so and another thing is this trade. Um, the

765
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: way the Steelers operate is Art Roody the Second isn't

766
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: reading about it but our Time dot com. So, um,

767
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: there's a procedure involved, and I'm sure that it was

768
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: presented to him, and um, there were a lot more

769
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: details presented to him than we know at this point.

770
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: And so that's why I kind of think that there's

771
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: got to be something that's going to come out here

772
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: soon that you know, a lot of the UM guarantees

773
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: down the road and some of that other stuff. Jackson

774
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: will maybe picking up some of that, or Schobert is

775
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: doing a new deal or you know, redoing his deal

776
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: or converting some of those, you know, in designing bonuses

777
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, so that the Steelers still have

778
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: enough cap space not only to do the t. J.

779
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: Watt thing, but then you know, go into season with

780
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: the cushion that you know, Kevin Colberg likes to have

781
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: for injured players. And I don't think that for people

782
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: who are unaware of that that he like and he

783
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: reiterate did this at the press conference you did a

784
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, that they like to be have

785
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: enough money to sign ten or make ten roster moves

786
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: during the season. The difference now, however, is that the

787
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: base salaries are now look, they're higher. Obviously that goes

788
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: down each week, you know, given this, but you've gotta

789
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: have enough money on hand to be able to make

790
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: ten moves. Probably not all millions between five and six.

791
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: I would think he used to. He adjusted that the

792
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: five million in recent years. It used to be like three.

793
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: Now you need five because the base salaries have gone up.

794
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: But you're not going to use all that and you

795
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: can roll over anything that you don't use, uh in

796
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: the next year's cap, which means you have even more

797
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: room next year. Yeah. And um, So, like I said,

798
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: I just don't, um, I just don't believe that this

799
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: is a you know, a deal that quote unquote is

800
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: going to bankrupt the Steelers. No. I don't believe so either, Bob.

801
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: I keep seeing and I keep getting asked this, Um,

802
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: the Steelers onna sign make of Fitzpatrick A no, not.

803
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: They don't have to. Why would they? Why would they

804
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: extend him now when he's still relatively cheap? Right? And

805
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: the other thing is, I mean you have him, you haven't,

806
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: he's only going into his fourth year. Then you have

807
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: the fifth year option that you can exercise or you

808
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: can do with the OVAN, which would be next year.

809
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: Or you can you know, hit him with the fifth

810
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: year thing and then work it out during that summer,

811
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: which you know, um could lower the cap figure or not,

812
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: or you know, who knows. I have no idea what

813
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: the the fifth year option would be for a pick.

814
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: It's it's not gonna be. That doesn't matter anymore with

815
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: the new cb A, it's it's since he is a

816
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player, he made it. He's made a Pro

817
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: Bowl I think it kicks in it like eleven somewhere

818
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: in that, right. But if you think he's a top

819
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: five safety, you have the franchise state the year after that,

820
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: it's still like it's still a bargain, right, but she's

821
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: going anywhere even it's it's just not and you know

822
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: by then, um, certainly, by the time Minco would get

823
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: to unrestricted free agency, I would surmise that you know,

824
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger will have retired. Yes, so, UM, yeah, I'm

825
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: not that's that's not a that's not an issue. I

826
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: don't think the Steelers are even pondering right now because

827
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, that's another um rooney business principle, for lack

828
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: of a better phrase, you don't make decisions until you

829
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: have to make them. Um, it's just the way they operate. Yeah,

830
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: real quick here, Bob, it's been a big topic. What

831
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Mason Rudolph and Dwayne Haskins here

832
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: in the preseason thus far. I'm of the belief that

833
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph has done nothing to lose that number two

834
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: job at this point. Haskins has played well, but Rudolph

835
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: has not played poorly. No, I don't think so either.

836
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: And I also do believe that, um, in a situation

837
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: like that, Mason Rudolf has to lose that job just

838
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: as much as Dwayne Haskin says the winning So, you know,

839
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: you look at the two preseason games so far. You know,

840
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: a drop past in the Hall of Fame game on

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Speaker 1: a third down, UM, you know certainly didn't help. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe that his his time on the Mason Rudolph's time

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Speaker 1: on the field ends up looking a little bit different.

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Speaker 1: And then you know against the Eagles, the two holding penalties, uh,

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Speaker 1: certainly didn't help those possessions. And you know, just based

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Speaker 1: on watching the game, the way Mike Tomlin was reacting,

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Speaker 1: especially to the trade Turner holding call, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he agreed with that one. At all. So um, you know, Uh,

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Speaker 1: so I don't even know if it was a good

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Speaker 1: penalty call, let alone not Mason Rudolph's fault. So again, UM,

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Speaker 1: I think that Dwayne Haskin certainly has played well, and

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Speaker 1: I think there is now no longer a debate on

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Speaker 1: whether this guy deserves a spot on the fifty three

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Speaker 1: million roster. I think that that that's over. I think

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Speaker 1: he's on the on the roster. I also believe just

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Speaker 1: as a maybe going on left field there just one second,

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Speaker 1: because of the potential practice squad uh situations. You know,

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Speaker 1: we have heard already that everyone is eligible for the

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Speaker 1: practice squad, but if it goes back to some of

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Speaker 1: the rules with the expanded numbers and the loosen regulations

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Speaker 1: in terms of moving a guy up and moving a

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Speaker 1: guy off the practice squad and the roster back and

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Speaker 1: forth and the COVID stuff, you know, I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: surprised at all if the Steel was trying to keep

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Speaker 1: Josh Stops too. Yeah right, there's rooms. So, um, you

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Speaker 1: know Dwayne Haskins. And that's another um example of a

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Speaker 1: team pulling the plug on a draft pick, uh, an

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Speaker 1: expensive player on the coaching change. First year Dwayne Haskins,

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Speaker 1: if if he if it wasn't a new coach and

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Speaker 1: the coaches more involved in picking him fifteen, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe they try and resurrect his situation a little bit

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Speaker 1: with the you know, some of the knucklehead stuff Dwayne

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Speaker 1: Haskins was said to have done. But you know, uh

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Speaker 1: again that Steelers capitalized on on that kind of situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a free move, Bob. We'd love to

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Speaker 1: keep you here and talk forever. We'll do that again

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Speaker 1: here some other time soon, but we gotta let you

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Speaker 1: go here today, we're wrapping up the Drive here. He

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Speaker 1: is Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lali. We want to

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Speaker 1: thank Bob Labriola, editor of Steelers Digest and Steelers dot Com,

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Speaker 1: for joining us here in the show. We want to

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Speaker 1: thank Brian la Martina for keeping us on the air

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Speaker 1: over the course of the show, and we want to

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Speaker 1: thank you for listening to this edition of The Drive

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio.