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Speaker 1: This is it could happen here. My name is Jake Hanrahan.

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Speaker 1: I'm a journalist and documentary filmmaker. Today you're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: me reporting from an undisclosed location in Europe where I

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Speaker 1: met with anti Putin Russian partisans. So right now heading

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Speaker 1: into the forest somewhere on the edge of Europe. There's

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Speaker 1: snow absolutely everywhere, it's pitch black and it's very, very cold.

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Speaker 1: I'm heading into the forest to meet with anti government

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Speaker 1: Russian partisans. They've been launching attacks inside Russia against Kremlin infrastructure.

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Speaker 1: They've been blowing up railway tracks and attacking military recruitment

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Speaker 1: centers because they want to disrupt the continued Russian invasion

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Speaker 1: of Ukraine. These partisan attacks have been taking place all

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Speaker 1: across Russia, but obviously over there there's a complete media

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Speaker 1: blackout on this situation. So this group of comeover um

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Speaker 1: and agreed to meet with me to tell me what's

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Speaker 1: actually happening and to let people know that it's not

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Speaker 1: everybody there that supports this, and some people are even

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Speaker 1: taking up arms, taking massive risks to try and stop popultining.

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Speaker 1: Is up to when Russia invaded Ukraine on February the

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Speaker 1: Ukrainian people bravely mobilized to fight back against Putin's attack

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Speaker 1: on their country. Russia's so called Three Days Special Operation

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Speaker 1: has turned into a grueling, year long battle whether Ukrainian

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Speaker 1: resistance has been highly effective. Despite this chaos, it seems

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Speaker 1: that many people in Russia have come out in favor

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Speaker 1: of this brutal war. Even now, with over forty people

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Speaker 1: killed and over fourteen million displaced, there's still large scales

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Speaker 1: support for Putin's attacks on Ukraine. This much is fact.

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Speaker 1: The idea that every Russian is in favor of the

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Speaker 1: war is not. Russia is a huge place, with the

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Speaker 1: population of over one hundred and forty million. Many people

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Speaker 1: there do not support Pootin or his war. Some have

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Speaker 1: even taken the risk to fight back. As I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: there's a quiet but highly effective network of anti Poutin

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Speaker 1: partisans that are fighting from within. They're doing this by

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Speaker 1: blowing up military railways, sabotaging Kremlin cell towers, and burning

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Speaker 1: down war recruitment centers, all this in an effort to

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Speaker 1: help Ukrainians from Afar. If caught by the Russian security forces,

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Speaker 1: they face torture and life in prison. Despite the risks

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Speaker 1: in the last twelve months, there have been more than

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Speaker 1: eighty confirmed attacks against the government inside at Russia. The

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Speaker 1: attacks have taken place all across the country as well,

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Speaker 1: from Moscow in the west to Vladivostok in the far east.

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Speaker 1: There are dozens of different Partisans cells and lone wolves.

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Speaker 1: As is with real life, the Partisans have varying different

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Speaker 1: political ideologies from far left to far right. For the moment, though,

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Speaker 1: they all share in information with each other, recognizing their

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Speaker 1: common enemy in Putin. One of the most organized groups

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Speaker 1: is made up of militant anarchists then known as the

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Speaker 1: Anaco Communist Combat Organization, more commonly referred to by their

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Speaker 1: Russian abbreviation BOAK. It's two fighters from BOAK who had

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Speaker 1: arranged to meet in a Russia bordering forest of eastern Europe.

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Speaker 1: We've spoken weeks before via encrypted email. They told me

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Speaker 1: which country to fly to and then send me coordinates

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Speaker 1: of where to meet them within a specific window of time.

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Speaker 1: A driver as far as I could, abandon the car

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Speaker 1: and took off into the forest. Eventually, a red torchlight

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Speaker 1: emerged through the trees, cutting the silhouette of two figures.

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Speaker 1: Because the two approached, it was clear it was the

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Speaker 1: Boak fighters. They were both dressed head to toe in black,

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Speaker 1: and we're both wearing balaclavas. We confirmed things, shook hands

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Speaker 1: They let me through an underground tunnel to an air

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Speaker 1: of the Russian Partisans, we've scrambled their voice. That voice

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Speaker 1: the other fire said the voice you'll hear, that's Jura,

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Speaker 1: he's a male. Can you explain the actions like one

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Speaker 1: are the main things you've been doing to disrupt Prutin's invasion?

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Speaker 1: The assembled railways, which leads to their actilutely warehouse in

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Speaker 1: the most cool region. Do it surpli fronto give to

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Speaker 1: the Krainian people more time to prepare for the The

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Speaker 1: railing trains in Russia is something the Partisans specialize in.

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Speaker 1: They've managed to not several Kremlin cargo trains off their tracks,

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Speaker 1: trains that were destined to the level weapons to Russian

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Speaker 1: soldiers as they continued to invade Ukraine. We'll probably never

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Speaker 1: know how helpful this was for Ukrainians, but every second

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Speaker 1: if Russian soldiers were left waiting for a resupply which

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Speaker 1: for the partisans. I asked the Barack fights is why

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Speaker 1: in the Russia, the state depression is very hard. So

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Speaker 1: you can use some uh legal methods to do some

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Speaker 1: people that we can do it. We as people, people

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Speaker 1: small and to be are. There's a lot of us.

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Speaker 1: And the second direction which we are developed since is

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Speaker 1: a coordination of such kind of attacks tacks all over

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Speaker 1: the Russia. But recently we published I think maybe even

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Speaker 1: more than them, attacks from many different religions. We held

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Speaker 1: small partisan cells to find out how to make attacks,

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Speaker 1: help them with supplies. Groups such as small parson groups.

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Speaker 1: It's increasing, it's increase here and they making more and

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Speaker 1: more serious attacks. For example, not a long time and

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Speaker 1: So I hope is not in that one small group

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Speaker 1: you guys been around before the UK more started, or

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Speaker 1: at least since the invasion started this year, but that's

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Speaker 1: when you've got a lot more known. I think online

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Speaker 1: we've seen that you guys actually doing attacks inside Russia

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Speaker 1: and in Belarus, very dangerous thing to do. Um, what

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Speaker 1: is it that you know spurred you guys on why

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Speaker 1: basically attack who in in his own country because it's

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Speaker 1: not his country, it's our country. We can't do nothing.

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Speaker 1: We can do legal things. And these parts attacks can

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Speaker 1: make military imagine of Russian state. We got the supply lines,

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Speaker 1: we attack the military coupment centers, so the army becomes

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Speaker 1: there is all the window of possibilities opens for the

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Speaker 1: people of this country. What was Boak a dragmatic focused

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Speaker 1: currently on the pressing issue of Putin's or on Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: They're also looking to cover out a space for themselves

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Speaker 1: When Putin dies, there will be a vacuum where many

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Speaker 1: other groups feel the same Boack in their minds, setting

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Speaker 1: information for those other groups which don't yet know how

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Speaker 1: to do things and don't yet have funds enough for

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Speaker 1: And as well, near the start of war, our organized

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Speaker 1: these attacks inside Russia? Is well, three dozens finished groups,

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Speaker 1: Everyone has a different time, number of members. And what

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Speaker 1: extremely extremely dangerous inside Russia. You're taking a massive risk

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Speaker 1: take that risk? If we won't take those risks now,

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Speaker 1: something and you didn't. Our people killing people of Ukraine

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Speaker 1: over the world. People on the internet. They'll see what

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Speaker 1: you guys are doing and they say, are you guys

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Speaker 1: a CIA oppertures and stuff like this. UM, particularly like

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Speaker 1: Western is actually support Puttin. Now you know what it's

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Speaker 1: like living there under putin? UM? You know, how would

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Speaker 1: of actusizes? I think if we would be saying we

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Speaker 1: with those sources which we have, we're trying to increase land.

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Speaker 1: But lem said that it's time. It's protest from zero

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Speaker 1: an anaco communist group when there are ultra nationalist groups

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Speaker 1: doing similar things. How do you get the information? Like

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Speaker 1: used to wiki market for each object on the map

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Speaker 1: It's doing something like that that, it's it's photos and

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Speaker 1: So they use wiki mapia to help their attacks. This

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Speaker 1: guerrillas gathering intel from locals about the enemy, only the

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Speaker 1: locals in this case don't even know they're doing it.

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Speaker 1: Scouting is also a big part of their sabotage preparations.

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Speaker 1: But but of course, so we need to a lot

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Speaker 1: because we not link to yeah, we don't give any

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Speaker 1: information on our comrades, and when you're touched, it's hard

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Speaker 1: So it's good to prevent this by dying fighting. Does

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Speaker 1: that mean your firearms? If you want to do a revolution,

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