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Speaker 1: From the Rams Studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. It is September twenty seventh. It

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Speaker 1: is Wednesday. It's about eleven twenty in the morning here

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, and the Rams are two and one

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Speaker 1: after a pretty crazy win last week on Thursday night

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Speaker 1: over the San Francisco forty nine ers. Big smile, like wins,

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Speaker 1: wins are good, Hey, losses. Don't you hate losing weeks? Yes, yes, depressing,

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Speaker 1: don't want to go outside, and when you win, you

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Speaker 1: should want to be the opposite, go out and like

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Speaker 1: the you know, everything is cloudy and gray. Yeah in MLA,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, when things lose, it's like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: but now, I mean, like this is this is why

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Speaker 1: I walked in the building. Everybody's smiling. I like it

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Speaker 1: and they don't know why. You know why, because you

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Speaker 1: won and you have a winning record. That's why you're smiling. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, can you recall a game being that wild before?

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Speaker 1: Because that was a really, really wild game, Cal Stanford.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean there's there's been wild games before,

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Speaker 1: and look the Rams helped make it wild. Or San

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Speaker 1: Francisco did a good job taking the ball away on

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Speaker 1: special teams. Yeah, outside of the Tavon dropped when he

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Speaker 1: just dropped the punt they hit on Pharrell Cooper, good shot,

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Speaker 1: ball came right out. That was a good play. Put

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Speaker 1: them back in and the on side kick. You have

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Speaker 1: to give them credit. Um, as soon as that ball

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Speaker 1: was in the air and where it was placed, my

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Speaker 1: first thought was that's trouble. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I

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Speaker 1: said the same thing. I said, Oh no, because that

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Speaker 1: thing went right off the ground, went right up and

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Speaker 1: went right to where teams want that thing to go.

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Speaker 1: If you'resolutely so, I mean they made a game out

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Speaker 1: of it. I thought the Rams offense looked great. Um.

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Speaker 1: I thought the Rams defense, you know, they they they

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Speaker 1: went nose to nose with an up and coming offense.

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Speaker 1: I'll say that I think they're one guy short of

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Speaker 1: being dominant. And that's the best Brian Horror I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: That might be the best Brian horyer you've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Even you've known the guy since he was in diapers,

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Speaker 1: why not something like that? You changed his diapers? Is

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Speaker 1: that the story? No? No, okay, The story is that

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Speaker 1: our our parents worked together, our moms worked together. He

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Speaker 1: changed your diapers? In period, Like I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: recall every meeting Brian Horror, but his mother give me

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Speaker 1: juice and cookies. So my mom would do nice. Brian

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Speaker 1: Horder's mom was a nurse, and you know I would

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Speaker 1: sit there at the at the desk hospital and she

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Speaker 1: bring me nice. That's cool, that's cool. Yes, that there's

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Speaker 1: a connection. There is connection there, but nobody changed, no changing, okay.

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Speaker 1: But on the field, look after the first pick six

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Speaker 1: that should have been a pick six. Yeah, not gonna

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Speaker 1: give anybody hell ever being caught by a tight end.

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Speaker 1: You get caught by aligneman. You got problems, you get

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Speaker 1: caught by a tight end. That's okay, all right, And

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Speaker 1: I mean the way Nikel Roby was Roby Coleman was moving, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like he didn't have to avoid that guy. That guy

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Speaker 1: was still at the line. Nice played by the other guy,

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Speaker 1: it is. But if it's aligneman, you'll never hear the

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Speaker 1: end of it. Okay, tight end, okay, But yeah, after

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Speaker 1: that one almost pick six, I thought Brian Horyer picked

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Speaker 1: it up and really gave the defense fits m Pierre Garson.

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Speaker 1: If you think he's done, you're wrong. Yeah, that guy

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Speaker 1: can play so Yeah, tremendous effort, wild game. The Rams help.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, best Thursday Night of all time, no question

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Speaker 1: about that. I think it's the highest scoring Thursday night

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Speaker 1: football game of all time. But you know what, a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago we talked about this with the

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Speaker 1: Colts and how that was the first time a game

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Speaker 1: it ever ended forty six to nine. Another one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how does this keep happening? I don't know. Forty one

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Speaker 1: to thirty nine is the first time that's ever happened

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Speaker 1: in the NFL history. Yeah, fifteen thousand games. Again, Look,

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Speaker 1: I don't care as long as you're on the winning

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Speaker 1: side of it. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, crazy score that way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we talked that. You mentioned the offense, and I

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Speaker 1: want to stay there because there's just so many good

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Speaker 1: performances from the offense in that game. I mean, only

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Speaker 1: two punts, and there were excellent punts from Johnny Hecker's

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Speaker 1: shout out to him. But it's nice that we don't

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Speaker 1: really have to talk about him because the offense had

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Speaker 1: scoring drives of eight plays, seven plays, nine plays, ten plays,

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Speaker 1: and then seven plays. That's a lot of scoring drives. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a great job by the offense first of all,

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Speaker 1: staying on schedule, not having a bunch of penal leaves

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Speaker 1: and ruined drives, and Jared Goff being efficient. We talked

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Speaker 1: about what he can do, what he can't do going

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Speaker 1: into this year. The one thing he can do is

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Speaker 1: run this offense. The little stuff behind the scenes, the

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Speaker 1: little ball fakes, the the athleticism it takes to fake here,

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Speaker 1: wheel around, throw it here on you know, on target.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the mark of a good athlete

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Speaker 1: and a guy that has to know a lot more

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Speaker 1: than everyone else on the football team. So I think

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Speaker 1: he's doing a great job. And I mean when you're

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Speaker 1: having a guy like Todd Gurley paced the offense, running

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Speaker 1: the football or catching it out of the backfield, it

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Speaker 1: just makes things easier for everyone else. Staying on schedule.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the biggest things that the Rams have

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Speaker 1: been able to do. Bill Barnwell if ESPN tweeted this

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday morning. The Rams are second in the league

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Speaker 1: getting seven point six four yards on first down. So

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Speaker 1: that tells you right there, how you can stay ahead

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Speaker 1: of the chains. Guys talk about that all the time,

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Speaker 1: you know, I wish I could say that's all Jared

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Speaker 1: goff in the offense. I gotta give a lot to

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Speaker 1: Sean mcvae oh. Absolutely, guy is so dialed in with

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Speaker 1: whatever U the thing I like, um most so far

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Speaker 1: as you're still learning this offense. He's still teaching this

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Speaker 1: offense to a group of men he just met not

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Speaker 1: too long ago. Right, He's not freaking out if he

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Speaker 1: has to take a time out, if they're not lined

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Speaker 1: up properly, if there's a steak, he'll take that time

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Speaker 1: out early and just bring it to the sideline. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about it's no big deal. Some coaches, they they

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Speaker 1: hang on the timeouts like their money. Sometimes you got

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Speaker 1: to use that stuff from games, save yourself penalties, stay

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Speaker 1: on schedule, will keep everybody going in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: I think it's been great. But the play calling on

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Speaker 1: first and second down dynamic. It is, yeah, dynamic. You're

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Speaker 1: catching guys off guard, which is what you want. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's why the Rams were able to get into third

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Speaker 1: down situations that were so that were so manageable for them.

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Speaker 1: And as I turned to this page in front of me,

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Speaker 1: I mean they finished eight of twelve on third down

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Speaker 1: sixty seven percent. That's really really good. You know what

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Speaker 1: that says to me as a defensive player, I am tired. Well,

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Speaker 1: I can't get off the field. If you're eight of twelve,

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Speaker 1: I can't get off the field. I can't get you

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Speaker 1: to stop. True, But the Rams still ran fourteen fewer

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Speaker 1: that kind of tells you something there. Two takeaways help that, Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: But if from my perspective right now, at least with

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Speaker 1: this offense, it's nice to see that everything has a

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Speaker 1: rhyme or reason and that everything feels dynamic. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, and you have to remember, and he's only

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Speaker 1: a rookie, but Gerald Everett is a huge part of

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Speaker 1: this offense. Yes, and you by if you watch the game,

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Speaker 1: you can tell he wasn't a huge part of the

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Speaker 1: game plan, which changes a lot. Yeah. I mean, when

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Speaker 1: when you have all your weapons on the field or

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Speaker 1: at your disposal of you're Sean mcvayh. Yeah, you have

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Speaker 1: no choice but to be dynamic. What can a defense

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Speaker 1: throw at you that you can't counter. You've got Sammy Watkins,

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Speaker 1: you've got Cooper Cup, you've got Robert Woods, who, outside

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Speaker 1: of Andrew Whitworth, might be my favorite guy on this

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Speaker 1: football team, the way he competes, the way he bounces back.

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Speaker 1: And then you have Gerald Everett, which is a nightmare

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Speaker 1: for any opposing linebacker. A safety. Yeah. Oh and by

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Speaker 1: the way, probably the best left tackle in the West. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'll just leave it there for now. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to go too far, but watching him on tape, I

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Speaker 1: fall asleep. It's the same thing over and over again.

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Speaker 1: I lock you up, I throw you down. No one

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Speaker 1: gets to the quarterback. He's been tremendous. Yeah, and that's

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Speaker 1: that is obviously a huge part of what Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: I think has been able to do. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: he completed over seventy percent of his passes. Again, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's gotten over seventy percent passing completion rate through three

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Speaker 1: games this season. And I don't think anybody who watched

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Speaker 1: he's got Willie Mays a receiver. Yeah, come on, that

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Speaker 1: really help. Yeah, You've got a guy that won't drop anything,

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Speaker 1: football all the time. He's always open. So you've you've

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Speaker 1: got to pick your poison scenario for Jared Goff. Well,

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Speaker 1: would say, good pass, great adjustment by Sammy Rockets. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a great pass. It might even be a

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Speaker 1: better catch than it was a pass. You know, I

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Speaker 1: and go took your cat. I mean, wow, what a catch?

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Speaker 1: Want to throw? Yeah, I mean it's in the right

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Speaker 1: his eyes. And on the broadcast, I thought Mike Terico

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Speaker 1: did a great job of just pointing that out, because look,

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Speaker 1: that's not easy to do in any sport. I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: I give you one hundred bucks all whatever it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you ten shots. I'll give you one hundred

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Speaker 1: bucks if you catch one that same shot. Might be

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Speaker 1: able to catch one, okay, coming soon, coming soon here.

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Speaker 1: He just said it. We're gonna do You heard that right,

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Speaker 1: I said, might be able to catch one. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: he would just went to Matt. Mattah, you can talk now.

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Speaker 1: One hundred bucks. You heard it. One hundred dollars is

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Speaker 1: on the line. I like it, all right, everybody, that's

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Speaker 1: our producer, Matt. I've mentioned him before, but now he

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Speaker 1: got a microphone. We'll do it from twenty yards out.

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Speaker 1: I just we won't even make it a big catch.

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Speaker 1: Just twenty yards out. I guarantee you won't catch it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I would catch it. I said, I

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Speaker 1: might be able to catch all I need is one

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Speaker 1: out of ten. One. I don't think so either. But amazing, amazing.

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Speaker 1: That's yes, like a welcome to the NFL moment. We

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Speaker 1: all get it. Where you see football at its best

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Speaker 1: to where everybody's good. Yeah, if you're a corner in

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Speaker 1: a safety and you see a guy make a throw

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Speaker 1: in a cash like that, Wow, this is the big Well. Look,

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Speaker 1: you won't let you hit me. No, it means you

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Speaker 1: don't give a bleap? Oh okay, who else is in there?

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Speaker 1: Violent running? Violent? I got you, okay, Like Marshawn Lynch.

425
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Speaker 1: Marsha is the height of disrespectful running. Mc fadden when

426
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Speaker 1: he was healthy, yes, whenever that was yeah, yeah, yeah.

427
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 1: The people thought Trent Richardson would be a great disrespectful

428
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 1: runner because he wasn't called I see what you mean, Henry. Yes,

429
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,720
Speaker 1: a guy that's bringing it down. I guess. I guess

430
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Speaker 1: people have other terms. No, I like, I like disrespectful

431
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,400
Speaker 1: runner because that's exactly what it is. Right, he has

432
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,400
Speaker 1: no respect for you at all. Yes, yeah, he's going

433
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Speaker 1: to dip on you. Marshawn Lynch has zero respect for you,

434
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 1: right yeah, against well, they were playing to Casey. Yes, yeah, yeah, yes, Casey.

435
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah that was disrespectful. Oh yeah, big time. Anyway, did

436
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 1: I run the mic? No, I'm good, Okay, Mike is

437
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 1: good speak. I'm not used to being a part of

438
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 1: the show. Look at this guy. I know, Matt, It's okay.

439
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 1: We want you to be a part of it. Like

440
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 1: Matt does such a good job. Not even his voice

441
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 1: right now, speak and he's trying to get his deep

442
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 1: radio voice on this. It's only because I'm close to

443
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,400
Speaker 1: the microre that sounds more like Matt Um. But yeah,

444
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley though number two in yards from scrimmage, he's

445
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 1: got three hundred and eighty one, tied for the league

446
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 1: lead with six total touchdowns. Right now, this is the

447
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley you drafted at number ten overall. Yes, for

448
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 1: this purpose. This is what you thought he was going

449
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 1: to be. Um. I think, what's what's happening through the

450
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: air with him? I think is um It's it's eye opening.

451
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 1: It's amazing what he can do. Um. And I've seen

452
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 1: running backs like this before, and they usually come in

453
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 1: West Coast offenses. Guys, you just can't take away. Uh.

454
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: If you're if you load the box and stop the run.

455
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 1: They're still a part of the game plan through the air,

456
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 1: so it's it's a full time job trying to get

457
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 1: him down out and as long as you don't turn

458
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 1: the ball over and the defense does their job, you know,

459
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 1: stopping the other team's offense. Todd Gurley is effective for

460
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 1: four straight quarters. And I don't care who you are,

461
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: eventually you're gonna wear it out you are. Yeah, he's

462
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: a big guy that can move, and that's what we

463
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: saw against San Francisco. I mean in the fourth quarter

464
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 1: he had that twenty nine yard run, then he gets

465
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: another twenty yard run to ice the game after Aaron

466
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: Donald's sack. And but you also have him as this

467
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: receiver and Jared Goff talked about this after the game.

468
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 1: I think it was what a twenty seven yard catch

469
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Speaker 1: he had on third and ten. They're in the fourth quarter.

470
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Speaker 1: It's set up one of the last scores and it's

471
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Speaker 1: a checkdown play. But what Golf was saying is that

472
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Speaker 1: it's so comforting when everything is sort of going on

473
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: down the field, people are covered and then you're like, oh,

474
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Speaker 1: well there's Todd Gurley. He's got space in front of him.

475
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get a first down, right, Yeah, yeah, dump

476
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Speaker 1: it out there, Tod's gonna make a play, and he did.

477
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how he got out of

478
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 1: that situation where I think there were what three four

479
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: forty nine ers around him on that particular play, and

480
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 1: somehow he still is able to pounce it out over

481
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: to the right and get some more yards and get

482
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Speaker 1: down the field. Well, I mean I would as a defender,

483
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to take on Todd Gurley if I

484
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: had five guys with me when he's got enough space

485
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 1: to make people miss. Yeah, because he can make two

486
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: guys miss and run through a third. Um, he's dynamic.

487
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 1: We've seen this before, But my memory doesn't go back

488
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: that far. But I can remember games where he was

489
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Speaker 1: taken out of the game plan in the first quarter,

490
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Speaker 1: where it's just over. The whole game plan is to

491
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Speaker 1: run the football with Todd and then by score, by

492
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 1: what have you. It's just that game plan is out.

493
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Speaker 1: Give me most of the twenty sixty. It doesn't go

494
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Speaker 1: back that far. I'm trying to say, but now now

495
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Speaker 1: I get it. Now it was viable for four straight quarters,

496
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Speaker 1: which makes him twice as effect right, Well, and that's

497
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Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to throw anybody under the bus, but

498
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: Miles seems to not care. No, I'm not throwing anybody

499
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Speaker 1: under the bus. I'm just I'm stating facts right right,

500
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: Facts are facts, right. There are times, I mean, look,

501
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 1: we can go back to twenty bus I am, we

502
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Speaker 1: can go back to twenty fifteen, and and I think

503
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: of things like that, right, like when they're Minnesota and

504
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: they were at the Gophers stadium right in twenty fifteen,

505
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: and it goes to overtime after Greg Zonline does a

506
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: great job and he ties the game from like sixty

507
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: yards out or whatever it was. But first play, you knew,

508
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: I knew everybody in the freaking stadium is getting the

509
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: ball to getting the ball on first day probably knew

510
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Speaker 1: the play right, Yeah, and he did, and they got

511
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: him back there for a four yard loss. Guess who

512
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Speaker 1: else knew it? What? Minnesota? That's what I'm saying. Minnesota knew.

513
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: So that that's why these things, you know, sometimes they're effective.

514
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 1: But I think what Sean McVay has done is shown that, Okay,

515
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: look Todd could get the ball here, but he can

516
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Speaker 1: also get it on a screen. He can also get

517
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Speaker 1: it in a swing round. Maybe they line up Todd

518
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Speaker 1: on the outside and he can do something there. He's

519
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: really become a dual threat running back right. And it

520
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: also helps when you have receivers that can pull secondary

521
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: out of there so you can swing it out yes

522
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: to him in space. So it's it's all working together.

523
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Speaker 1: I'm glad that you know Todd survived his formative years

524
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: enough to where they can build around him and you

525
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 1: get to see what he can really do in the

526
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: energy everybody. I mean, they've talked about for a long

527
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: time Todd Gurley being the focal point, the centerpiece of

528
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: the offense. This is the year where it's really coming

529
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Speaker 1: to fruition and he can become the centerpiece of the

530
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 1: offense like he has because they're doing things that are

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Speaker 1: effective with him both in the run and the pass game. Yeah,

532
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Speaker 1: the guys that you may see in the end zone,

533
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Speaker 1: I mean, if this thing keeps growing, let's just jump

534
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: to the positive. Sammy Watkins could score, Cooper Cup could score,

535
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: Robert Woods can score, I mean from anywhere on the field.

536
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: But the guy that's really killing you is going to

537
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: be Todd Gurley. He's the guy that's keeping you off

538
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: balance or keeping you honest defensively. That's going to give

539
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: you that man coverage to allow those guys to be

540
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: effected down the field, or to be a zone buster

541
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: when you try zone. Okay, these receivers are killing this,

542
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: let's zone this off. Well, he's going to run through

543
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: that too. He changes a lot. As long as he

544
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: keeps chipping in and really punishing the defense and making

545
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: them stay honest, I think everything else around him will

546
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: start to grow. Well. What I loved was after that

547
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: first interception, it took one play to get into the

548
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: ends of around the three yard line. It's a sudden change.

549
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: Give it to Todd Boom, you're there. And John Sullivan center,

550
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: I thought, had a great block on that, and that

551
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: I think tells you sort of the way the offensive

552
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: line was going. It's unfortunate that right now we don't

553
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: necessarily know Sullivan's status heading into Sunday at Dallas. Very

554
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: important piece to that offensive and blithe played pretty well, yes,

555
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: and he played right. Yeah. They gave him a game

556
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: ball after the game for his efforts. Jared Goff talked

557
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: about it, said that everything in the offensive operations still

558
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: ran smoothly, even with Austin blythe in there, so that

559
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: I think is something. But look, you still, when you're

560
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: on the one yard line and they had a couple

561
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: opportunities down there, you gotta get those blocks in order

562
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: to get Todd Gurley in there. If there's one improvement

563
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: I would like to see from the offensive line, it

564
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: would be that those combo blocks down there. I mean,

565
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: I have to give Roger Saffold credit too. I do

566
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: watch him on the goal line because he seems to

567
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: be like a goal line specialist. He loves those doubles

568
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: and he'll drive a guy into the end zone and

569
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: then celebrate. Yeah, so there's two celebrations going on. There's

570
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: Roger over here fist bumping because he just beared a guy,

571
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: and then there's a touchdown celebration over there. So you

572
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: have to give credit to the bigs upfront. But yeah,

573
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: we talked about Jamon Brown in a phone booth. I mean,

574
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Speaker 1: once he gets a hold of you and starts to drive,

575
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: there are not a lot of guys out there that

576
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: can resist. Rob Havenstein huge when he starts coming downhill.

577
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: And then, oh, by the way, Todd Gurley is huge

578
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: coming behind that with a full head of Steam. So yeah,

579
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: you would expect a team with a line that's set

580
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: to be as physical as they are and a running

581
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: back like that to be effective around the goal line.

582
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: And that's what it's got to be. So as we

583
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: sort of reset here looking at the defense, I guess

584
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: the biggest question is what happened there? Which part? I mean,

585
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 1: you know, you allowed a team that hadn't scored a

586
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: touchdown and its first two games to score thirty nine points.

587
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: We talked about Brian Hoyer and how he looked. Um,

588
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: let me see t Y Hilton. T Y Hilton was tremendous,

589
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 1: but t Y Hilton was hamstrong with you know, not

590
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: having a quarterback. Um, Washington just ran the ball down

591
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: your throat. So that's a little bit different. But I

592
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: mean Pierre Garson and a Brian Hoyer who looked like

593
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: he wanted to go back to the probo or go

594
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: to the playoffs into the Pro Bowl. I mean, it's

595
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: going to give anybody fits with a real good offensive plan,

596
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: game plan, you have to give them a lot of credit. So, UM,

597
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: I thought the defense gave as good as it got. Um,

598
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: you can't take any anything away from the forty nine ers.

599
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: I thought they had a great game plan and did

600
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: high can bring it. Oh yeah, No, I'm not. I'm

601
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: not trying to take anything away from the forty nine

602
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: Joe Staley was one of the best in the game

603
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: not too long ago. Yes, and that battle between him.

604
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: I think we can ye because that's the way these

605
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: things turned out. But my thing is, look, when we

606
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: look at the Rams in the forty nine ers the

607
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: last four matchup have been basically charting those quarterbacks into

608
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: Joe Montana. True. I don't know what it is about

609
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: these two teams when they get together with the quarterbacks,

610
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, just their eyes get big. I don't know,

611
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: but I think my point is there are just a

612
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: lot of things that the Rams have to sure up

613
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: before this next content. I'm with you. I mean you

614
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: have to factor in takeaways too. I mean the defense

615
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: was going back on the field. I'll give the defense.

616
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: This is what to me. They need to clean up

617
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: some of those long first drives that wear you out. Yeah,

618
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: that will. That will take some energy and effort away

619
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: from the fourth quarter. You've got to be better earlier

620
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: in games, Yes, to be better later in games. And

621
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: if you don't take the ball away. Look, you might

622
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: be rushing the pastor for the last two and a

623
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: half quarters of that football game, and then it's completely different.

624
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: But as is taking the forty nine ers doing what

625
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: they do best, or not doing what they do best,

626
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: but doing a great job of taking the ball away,

627
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: kept them in the ball game and kept it a

628
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: slug fest for four quarters. Well that, I mean, we

629
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: can go here too. I mean the special teams. I

630
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: think there are just some sort of uncharacteristic things that

631
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: are going on right now. I mean you mentioned off

632
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: the top, you know, the fumble with Pharaoh Cooper. That

633
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: was a really good play. That was a really good play.

634
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: And I spoke to Pharaoh about that, and he said,

635
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, you're bringing the ball out and you know

636
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: that you see him and you try to brace and

637
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: then he just puts his helmet right there on the

638
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: ball and the ball falls out. That that to me

639
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: is a really good play. But at the same time,

640
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: you've gotten off sides penalty on the first drive that

641
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: were excuse me, well, it's the second drive. I forgot

642
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: about the Kel's touchdown on your touchdown. But when that happens,

643
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: you're putting the defense back on the field and It

644
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: is effectively a sudden change because it's gone from fourth

645
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: and three to first and ten, and so they weren't

646
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: expecting to go back on the field. And then Brian

647
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: Hoyer get breaks contained and he's able to get into

648
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: the end zone and it's their first touchdown. And then

649
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: you have another muffed punt by tam On Austin and

650
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: these things cost the Rams effectively seventeen points. It also

651
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: costs your time on the sideline to make as yeah. Yeah,

652
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: I mean against a guy like Sean McVay on the

653
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: other side, who knows how to game plan, who knows

654
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: how to manipulate defenses, So you lose that time on

655
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: the sidelines getting valuable information about how to stop this offense.

656
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: And the sudden change part of it is always going

657
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: to be rough. You're running out, you're trying to get

658
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: the coal, you're trying to reconcile what the hell just happened,

659
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: and then having to play football on top of that.

660
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, look, high speed collisions on kickoff

661
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: are not uncommon. It's not um and look, I'll give

662
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: them credit for a good hit, but you've got to

663
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: hang onto the football in that scenario. I mean I

664
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: think he knows that, definitely knows that. Yes, and I

665
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: like that that he when we were when Farah and

666
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: I were talking, he says, you know, I take full

667
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: responsibility for that. Those points were on me because I'm

668
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: the one who dropped the football. So and tabon Austin too. Um,

669
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: can't have it. You just cannot have them, can't right. Um,

670
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: Even if a guy is dynamic and can take the

671
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: top off of a defense or lightning in a bottle,

672
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: if you can't trust him to feel the punt, you

673
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: can't put him out there exactly. You really can't. Yes,

674
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: that's a problem, and it is a problem. Look, I

675
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: don't necessarily expect them to make any changes at punt

676
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: returner for this week. Oh no, not at all. If

677
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: there are more problems, I think it's a fair question

678
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: to ask. He's built up a lot of credit to

679
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: this point. But but I mean, you lose some on

680
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: stuff like that, So I wouldn't say it's time to yank.

681
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: But I mean you're getting closer. Hey, Look, we need

682
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: someone that can feel punts. We're gonna be in tight

683
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: ball games, We're gonna we need to make sure we

684
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: feel these things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but when it comes

685
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: to the defense, I mean giving up over four hundred

686
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: yards to another team, that's not something you ever want.

687
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: Do you think that the adjustment to Wade Phillip's system

688
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: is something that's just taking time here? Um? Yes and no. Um.

689
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: I think it's more of ninety nine learning to play

690
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: within this system. It's a little more strict than you're

691
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: used to, and that's a lot of guys. Even if

692
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: the guys that have been here through training camp and

693
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: through preseason, they're making mistakes in gap gap soundness. Yes,

694
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: and teams are taken advantage. So you have to play

695
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: it strict. When you play it right, there's nowhere for

696
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: the ball to go right. If you try to do

697
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: someone else's job, well, there's going to be a hole

698
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: out there. That's just the way it goes. So yeah,

699
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean same with Sean McVay and the offense. They're

700
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: still learning this defense. They're still learning about the calls,

701
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: the terminology, the philosophy and why he's calling what he's calling,

702
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: and what he needs you to do in certain situations.

703
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: So I mean this is an ongoing process. I don't

704
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: expect him to be letter perfect this early. I don't

705
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: really either, and people keep yeah later absolutely yes, but

706
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: not necessarily know we're still in September, right, we are

707
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: still in September A. And then b you know, we

708
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: talked about this before. The Rams didn't have their first

709
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: team defense together, and you can really saganti a week

710
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: two once Aaron Donald got back, but even in week one,

711
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: there have been that kind of prep time on the

712
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: field in preseason because they didn't play together. I get that,

713
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: and I'm with that. And what I've noticed when I

714
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: watch is I don't see a lot of guys getting

715
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: beat physically. That's bad when you see guys that are

716
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: doing it right and they're just getting mauled and the

717
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: offense is still producing. What I see when the offense

718
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: does make big plays, it's some sort of mistake, some

719
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: sort of I'm out of alignment, I'm a little bit

720
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: lost here, and we didn't cover this guy, or we

721
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: missed here, or we missed a gap there, and then

722
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: they hit it. But rarely do I see a guy

723
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: or in a Rams uniform so far this season just

724
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: get mauled or just get killed. Even Tremaine Johnson when

725
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: he got beat over the top by Pierre Garson, that's

726
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: all he got. Yeah, I mean he's gonna make plays

727
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: over your shoulder. That guy is that good. But it

728
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: was catch, boomed ground and the defense lines up again

729
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: to play again. So I mean even that I can

730
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: live with. You don't see guys just getting absolutely killed

731
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: in the interior or on the outside. Well. The thing

732
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: that that stands out to me too right now is Okay,

733
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: the Rams got four sacks, but on long plays like

734
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: that one that you just mentioned, from Hoyer to Garson

735
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: down the field for fifty nine yards, you're not getting

736
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: that much of a pass rush. And people always talk

737
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: about rush and cover going hand in hand. I would

738
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: like to see a little bit more pressure put on quarterbacks,

739
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: you know. I thought the pressure was okay in certain situations. Look,

740
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to get there all

741
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: the time, and you're going to expect your corners and

742
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: safeties to make place. They get paid too, some of

743
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: them get paid more than you, and they've got to

744
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: make play, so it all goes hand in hand. But

745
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: I thought there was good pressure on Hoyer. Yeah, I

746
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 1: thought the rough in the passer on Aaron Donald, what

747
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: was that about? Um, Well, it's today's NFL and Aaron

748
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: knows when you can't put your whole body weight on

749
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback, you know that, but you know what is it?

750
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: But what is the penalty? Right like that? My question

751
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: about that was, and I think that was when um,

752
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: what's his name's there, I can't remember the officials name,

753
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: but when his mike was basically off yeah, yeah, And

754
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: so my question was, Okay, did they see a blow

755
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: to the quarterback's head. No, it was body drive him

756
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: to the ground. That's That's the explanation I wanted on

757
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: that call because if there's a call like that and

758
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: it is that consequential in the game, especially because after

759
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: they reviewed the play and it was a completed catch

760
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: that gets them down the field right on one thing

761
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,479
Speaker 1: and that that I think it just needed a little

762
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: more explanation. If you've got that shot, and I think

763
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: he knows every defensive lineman or anybody that rushes a

764
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: passer knows, if you've got a shot like that, you

765
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: have to fall off to one side or the other,

766
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: or at least look like you're trying to or put

767
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: out the landing gear, put your arms out, and just

768
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: try to take your body weight off that quarterback. If

769
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: you rap hold on and drive him to the deck.

770
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: More often than knot he's going to drop the flag,

771
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: and more often than knot he's going to be right.

772
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: Is that is pitting your body weight on the quarterback?

773
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: Is that now a foul? Oh? Yeah, that's that's a

774
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: point of emphasis. They don't want you landing on these guys. Yeah.

775
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's if it's yes, but if okay,

776
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: if the ball is gone and the official usually says

777
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: ball is gone, then you got to put the landing

778
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: gear out. Okay. Yeah, And that's what I think the

779
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: sort of confusion is because if you see it on

780
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: social media, I mean, when that play happens, but he's like,

781
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: well what is that? Why is that a fifteen year penalty?

782
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: If that's the case, then that's something that Aaron Donald

783
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: has to be aware of and he's got to be

784
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: able to do. Oh he knows. I mean, but sometimes

785
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: you just can't resist. Sometimes it's worth fifteen particular play.

786
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well yeah, but um I think um

787
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this though, when you were

788
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: a player, did you relish that kind of show? Absolutely

789
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: it was worth the ten grand yes, sir. Absolutely, still

790
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: find you even in your era. I say, your era

791
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: is if like, yeah, so much older than me. But

792
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if the game is different than it wasn't

793
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: it if a roughing is a roughing. I mean, if

794
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: it's if it's egregious, they're gonna find you, and they're

795
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: gonna flag you and find you. Is that really still

796
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: roughing when you played? Oh yeah really yeah, I feel

797
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 1: like it wasn't. I'm young, okay, and they were killing

798
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: us and I was real frustrated. Yeah, said Gray Brown.

799
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: His guard was holding me. Yeah, so it was worth

800
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: ten grand. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm gonna drive his ear right

801
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: into the dirt. What is one memorable thing that you were?

802
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: You drew somebody into the dirt and then you got

803
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: a letter from it. I got fined seventy five hundred

804
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: for drilling Jim Kelly at home in Saint Louis. Drilled him,

805
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: absolutely bashed him, and I got hurt. I hurt my

806
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: neck and he was laughing on the way down right. Yeah. Yeah,

807
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: so I get fine and hurt and he's laughing. Yeah

808
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: that sucked. It was the game. I think we beat

809
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: Buffalo that day. I think we beat Buffalo. Yeah, I

810
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: got caught in the ke gun. Um have you ever

811
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: heard of the key gun? The Jim Kelly gun. It's

812
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: the hurry up offense where he's like what Peyton Manning

813
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: was doing? Right, he was doing okay, but going a

814
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: thousand times faster. Oh with a Hall of Fame running

815
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: back too. Yeah, it was oh my god. Yeah, I

816
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: got caught in the kegun. It was dangerous. It's a

817
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: shame that they never won a Super Bowl. I think.

818
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, you know, you go to

819
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: the you got one job. You're talking about kickers? You

820
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: got one job? Yeah? Yeah, kick the ball? Yep. Yeah,

821
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: speaking of kickers. Shout out to the Eagles guy right,

822
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: sixty one yard or to walk about that? That was cool,

823
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: not bad. Why are we shouting him out though? I

824
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: don't know, just talking about kicker? Why is that helping us?

825
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: If it doesn't? But if kickers, you don't like talking

826
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: about kickers. If you say you have one job, he

827
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: went out needed his job sixty one? Yeah, yeah he

828
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: hit that one. What about the other two did he miss? Yeah?

829
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: I was not game, but he missed before. Yeah, you

830
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: got one job. I don't know. I don't watch the Eagling.

831
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: I'll say this though, it was kind of neat having

832
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: a Sunday off. Yeah. I was just watching red Zoo channels.

833
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: So we keep doing shout out. Shout out to Andrew Siciliano,

834
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: our buddy. Yeah, who does that for direct TV? Weird

835
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: now watching why because you know him? No, there's more

836
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: excitement for the national anthem than the game. Oh yeah,

837
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: that was That was something. I mean I got to watch.

838
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: I went to a couple of sports bars with friends

839
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: and just you know, mingling, just being a fan for once,

840
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: and the national anthem starts and people stop and they're

841
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: all looking up, yeah, because they want to see what's

842
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: going on. And then the game starts and they sit

843
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: down and they talk to each other again. Really well,

844
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: wait this is backwards. Yeah, this kind of backwards. Yeah.

845
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: But just watching the end of the one o'clock Eastern games,

846
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: those games were great, yeah, all of them. That was

847
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: really fun. Um that call in Falcons Detroit though, I

848
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I thought gold I thought he got

849
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: in there. I really did, yeah, because because when to me,

850
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: when his knee went down, they hadn't touched him yet.

851
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. But I don't know, what do

852
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: I know. I'm just a lowly ram sometimes replay just

853
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: it makes you feel like maybe I didn't see what

854
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: I saw. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I thought he got

855
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: in even via do you play it looks like he

856
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: got in. Yes, yeah, yeah, so so. But I bring

857
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: that up because you're gonna laugh at me for this.

858
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: Golden Tate is on my fantasy too, Can you believe it?

859
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: That's a fine. That's a fine. I won I know,

860
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: especially as a person who rails against Yes, that's why

861
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: it's funny. Almost got in the fight at a tail

862
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: game because somebody brought up fantasy football and now he's playing.

863
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. No, but that image of you was blown,

864
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: I know, but not when you referenced that, Like that

865
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: was not somebody getting miles getting ready to throw hand.

866
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: I was not getting ready, was getting ready to throw it.

867
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: I was frustrated because somebody got hurt in a football game.

868
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: We were watching it and they and they brought up fantasy, right,

869
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's very beat him joining him

870
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: rights something like that. I don't know, but fantasy is

871
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: one of these things that that people like. It helps

872
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: it's helping the league, it is helping your league. Um,

873
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: so that is a good thing. But let's start it

874
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: this week to Dallas. The Cowboys played, I thought pretty

875
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: well on Monday night football. You get to do a

876
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: little TV scouting. Um in Dak press Scott Man. He

877
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: can throw the ball, Yeah you can. Um, He's got

878
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: Jason Witten, he's got the base, the best safety blanket

879
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: out there in the league. Went in doubt, throw it

880
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: to old man Witten. He's gonna be there. Um. Zeke

881
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: Elliott look is at some point is really going to

882
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: start to get going. Um. You start to see, you know,

883
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: signs of it, like last week Arizona. You'll have him stymied,

884
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: You'll have him stuffed, and he rips off a thirty

885
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: yard run or fifteen yard run. So um, once he

886
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: gets going, rolling ball of butcher knives. And the first

887
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: thing that Sam Rogerson, well, that's that's an old name.

888
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: That's not just Sam Rogers telling Sam Rogers. But I

889
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: remember the last thing we talked about, I think was

890
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: that you or Maurice Jones Drew we talked about when

891
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: we were sitting in Levi Stadium. The first thing San

892
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: Francisco is gonna try to do is get Carlos hide

893
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: onto smaller guy on a big guy. Yeah, guaranteed that's

894
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: what Dallas is going to try to do. Yes, yeah,

895
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: they're they're going to try to do the same thing.

896
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: Block the safeties, let the bigger running back, you know,

897
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: feast on the smaller corner. You can't do it out

898
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: the other way because twenty two will hit it, but

899
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: you feel like you can make some money there so

900
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: they can run the ball. Dak Prescott is doing what

901
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: he's doing because of the running threat, right, yeah, I

902
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: mean you have to give them man coverage. You have

903
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: to load the box against that line, against that running back. Well,

904
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: the other thing he's doing, I mean he had some

905
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: rollouts plays, a couple of them to Butler to his

906
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: right that he made throws that I call Aaron Rodgers

907
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: throws because you're on the run and you're just sort

908
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: of it looks like you're kind of heaving the ball

909
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: up there, but you do it so accurately. But there

910
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: are just not many guys in this league who can

911
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: make throws like that. It's one of those where you

912
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: have to rewind and say, was that luck Nope, that's

913
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: just him. Yeah, yeah, I mean running right, sprinting towards

914
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: the sideline and can throw on on a rope into

915
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: the end zone or right to the sideline, right on

916
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: the money. Yeah, tremendous, really is. And I think but

917
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: it starts. I think you're right with that run game

918
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: and him selling that run action because that allows him

919
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: to get out on the outside where he may not

920
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 1: be able to if you don't have that run game,

921
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: because you don't have that run threat of Zeke. Just

922
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: going on those cold plays where he has booted, he's dangerous.

923
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: But even on when the play breaks down, what did

924
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: I watch? I watched them versus Denver von Miller was

925
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: just feasting. Yeah, just absolutely killing him. I mean, he's

926
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: only been sacked four times, that's great, but he's been

927
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: hit a ton, sure, but it never seems to bother him.

928
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: And the more you hit him, the better he starts

929
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: to play, which is the opposite. It's amazing, maybe because

930
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: of his athleticism, how young he is right now, but

931
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: the more he gets harassed in the pocket, the better

932
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: he plays in the football game. So you're never going

933
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: to be out of it, or you'll never be able

934
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: to take him out of a game. You can't. And

935
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: I think, just thinking back to the twenty sixteen draft

936
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of people talked about this

937
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: after this season. You know, if you go back hot,

938
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: where does Dak Prescott go? And I always wonder if

939
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: he's slid as far as he did in the draft.

940
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: I mean, a he had um the off field issue.

941
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: I believe it was a dui arrest that that happened,

942
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: you know, in the lead ups to the draft. But

943
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: you also just have a guy who didn't play in

944
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: a pro style offense. And if he played him a

945
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: pro style offense, how good would you do you think

946
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: he would have been in college? I have no idea.

947
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: And maybe Jameis Winston good, Yeah, that was a pro

948
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: style off right, because it just seems like sky is

949
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: the limit for this guy. Well he's playing. There's not

950
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: much he can't do, right. I mean, he can make

951
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: all the throws. You hear every coach say that, but

952
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: I mean he can throw the deep ball, he really can't.

953
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: He can get the screens out quick, the swing out

954
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: passes are right on the money where they need to

955
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: have it. He's good on the run and you know

956
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: in the zone read concepts, I mean he's dangerous. You

957
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: just saw that. So, I mean there's almost nothing you

958
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: can't do with him, right? What about Dez Bryant. M

959
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a game where we

960
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: don't always see this. And I guess there's only a

961
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: three game sample size. But Tremaine Johnson might be shadowing

962
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant around the field. How is that matchup going

963
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: to shape? That's going to be fun. I mean from

964
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 1: a trash shock standpoint. Thank god him on the sideline. Yeah,

965
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: when they share the field, it gets real. Man, Oh

966
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: my god, it gets real. You were there, yeah, a

967
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: couple of years agoing Ox now the fight, Yeah, well

968
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: it's it was. There are a lot of things going

969
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: on that David. I saw, I saw where the whole

970
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: thing started. Look, Devin Bryant was not practicing. Yes, he

971
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: was standing there and he wanted to get in because

972
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: he and Tremaine just kept going back and forth and

973
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: back and forth, because nobody could beat Tremaine that day, right,

974
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: And Tremaine was not shy about letting him know that, No,

975
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: he was not. And so like I remember Jason Garrett

976
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: literally having to say that just get back right because

977
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: Dez was trying to line up and go in and

978
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: he was not practicing. I don't even think he had

979
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: a helmet. I would guarantee you this week, Coach Garrett's

980
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: not gonna says get back. Not this week. No, no, no, no,

981
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: this is gonna be this is gonna be fun. I'm

982
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: excited for this matchup. But when you have some things

983
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: written down, um, and I know about their run game

984
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: and how to contain that, what are you? Are you

985
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: reading my notes? You told me this before on the air.

986
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: That's how you got through school. That is rude. Whoa,

987
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm kidding goodness, No, I'm just trying to make sure

988
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: we have a good show. Make sure that you know

989
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: you make notes. These are my notes. Then you read

990
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: my notes. I'm not reading your notes. You told me

991
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: you know what. Never mind, that's why he asked me,

992
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: was I left handed? Because he can read my notes.

993
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: That's why he said, over there, okay, no anyway, No,

994
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: just just a three game breakdown. The thing I did notice,

995
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: if you control the A gaps, if you control the center,

996
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: you can control Zeke Elliott. And that's pretty much the

997
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: same for almost any running back, but especially this guy.

998
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: If they can't get that A gap, if they can't

999
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: get that nose tackle and that mic linebacker taking care

1000
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: of then you can flatten out Zeke Elliott. And that's

1001
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: what you want. You want that big guy heading nast

1002
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: and west if he's allowed to go north and south

1003
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: in a hurry. I don't care who you are or

1004
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: who you have at linebacker. Eventually he's gonna make him

1005
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: miss or run you over. That's just how good they are.

1006
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: So if you control Frederick in the middle, you have

1007
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: a better chance of controlling their run game controlling Zeke.

1008
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: And that's true. Offensively, what do you think the Rams

1009
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: have to do to sort of keep DeMarcus Lawrence off balance?

1010
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: Because that guy, I mean, he was reckoned shop against

1011
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: Arizona now leads the league with six and a half sacks. Well,

1012
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: you know, I'd be smart about that. When a guy

1013
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: has a game like that, his confidence is going to

1014
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: be sky high. Now remember just this is for Rams

1015
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: fans and me and you. Arizona was down to linemen,

1016
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: their left tackle and their right left guard, so they

1017
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: were shorthanded. DeMarcus Lawrence, you know, picked apart some guys

1018
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: that were really struggling. Carson Palmer I thought played pretty

1019
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: well considering all the pressure he had on him. But

1020
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence is going to be sky high. He thinks

1021
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: he can beat anybody in the world, So I would

1022
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: be smart about that. I would definitely attach a tight

1023
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: end or a back to that side, just to chip

1024
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: or to check early. Now, if your tackles are having

1025
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: a good day and they're locking him up, go ahead

1026
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: and run the whole offense. But just to make sure

1027
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: this guy is not going to wreck your day because

1028
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: he ruined anything Arizona wanted to. Dude tried to do

1029
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: or could do in that football game. Yeah, he just

1030
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: took over the entire game, entire series. So make sure

1031
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen again. Tremendous player, So make sure I'd

1032
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: send the tight end or back to that side, just

1033
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: to check and make sure he's not on fire. Who

1034
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: else kind of scares you defensively for them? Um, for

1035
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: the same reason Stephen Paea the nose tackle. Um I

1036
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: played with his cousin. Yeah, Chris Maumalanga, the most intense

1037
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: guy on the planet. How so give me a story, Um,

1038
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: he ever approached a pit bull that you didn't know? No,

1039
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:57,479
Speaker 1: not crazy, exactly exactly same guy, but his cousin plays

1040
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: with that same sort of fire and he's a nose

1041
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: tackle and I believe he's a five hundred close to

1042
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: six hundred pound betcher. Oh, very very, very very strong.

1043
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: He's tough to move out of that gap. He just

1044
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: refuses to move. He's he's a stubborn stump in the middle.

1045
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: So same with Zeke Elliott, same with Todd Gurling. You've

1046
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: got to get some push upfront to get him going,

1047
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: to give him some space. So if that doesn't happen,

1048
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: you're in trouble. And then Sean Lee, the middle of

1049
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: the week side linebacker um about as dialed in as

1050
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 1: any linebacker in the business. Yeah. Yeah, he's very smart

1051
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: in the classroom, he's very smart on the field, and

1052
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: it seems like he's faster than what he is because

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Speaker 1: of how smart he is. He's going to beat to

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00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: the hole before the back, so he's tough to block.

1055
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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, their middle linebacker. What a great story that

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Speaker 1: is that he has been able to come back because

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Speaker 1: after he was injured in that Fiesta Bowl against Ohio

1058
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Speaker 1: State at Notre Dame, it seemed like there was question

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Speaker 1: whether or not he would ever be able to play

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Speaker 1: football in the first place. So, I mean, it's just

1061
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: a nice story that he has been able to come

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00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: back and play. Watching him, I love because it's the

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Speaker 1: throwback when ever a team goes two back against them

1064
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Speaker 1: and they run that lead, some linebackers will turn. Um,

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Speaker 1: they'll try to find a way to make that a

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Speaker 1: glancing blow. Um, he doesn't. He just runs right through it.

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Speaker 1: I mean he will face mask you to death. UM.

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Speaker 1: So tremendous player. I think that sort of ability, that

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Speaker 1: sort of demeanor, coupled with Sean Lee on the weak

1070
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Speaker 1: side makes them tough. And with this Rod Marinelli defense,

1071
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Speaker 1: like we said, tried and true four or three defense

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Speaker 1: that's won a Super Bowl. That's that's been featured in

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Speaker 1: many Super Bowls, but definitely one one with the right guys,

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Speaker 1: that defense is just lights out. All right. Well, before

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Speaker 1: we get out of here, any good stories of playing

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Speaker 1: Dallas beating Dallas. Um. I while I only played him

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Speaker 1: once there and it was the old stadium, and I

1078
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Speaker 1: heard about the crown on the field because this is

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Speaker 1: when Emmett Smith was you know, when he ruled the planet,

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Speaker 1: and they had a big offensive line kind of like

1081
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: what they had now, but this line was big and

1082
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Speaker 1: just vicious, and they said the crown on the field, um,

1083
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: was so high that you wouldn't believe it. So I'm

1084
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Speaker 1: sitting on the sideline and I'm looking across and I'm

1085
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: looking at him, a smith, and I can only see

1086
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: from his thipads up. That's how high the crown on

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Speaker 1: the field was. So whenever they run the ball and

1088
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: the crown on the field is in like how high

1089
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: the field, right, So they're always running downhill at you.

1090
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Speaker 1: It's just I was like, oh my god, this this

1091
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: is huge. This shouldn't be legal. But we're in Dallas.

1092
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Speaker 1: So that's number one. Yeah, number two. Touching Troy Aikman

1093
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: was an honor. It was an honor. It was an

1094
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: absolute honor to get through that line and actually touched

1095
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: the goal. Yeah, that was cool. That was fun. And

1096
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Speaker 1: then at the end of the game, after the game, Um,

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Speaker 1: Michael Irvin a friend of mine, but we weren't friends then,

1098
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: we were competitors. But that was the first time an

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Speaker 1: opposing player came into our locker room to look for

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Speaker 1: a friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know you're good when

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Speaker 1: you can do that. Wow. Yeah yeah, And no one

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Speaker 1: said boo because it's Michael, It's Michael Irvin. Yeah, that's fun.

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Speaker 1: It should be a fun weekend and I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to going. It's my first time at that stadium. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: have a steak, yeah yeah, all right, well you're in Texas.

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Speaker 1: Come on, we're gonna go get steak. Then you have

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Speaker 1: a steak. Why can't you have a s I'm not

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Speaker 1: having a stake with you. You're gonna have a steak,

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Speaker 1: you right off my note? All right, body, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for tuning into this edition of Between the Horns.

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Speaker 1: For DeMarco Far, for my producer Matt, I'm Miles Simmons.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week.