WEBVTT - “I’M LONELY IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE”

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<v Speaker 1>He friend Chris Hello, what's up? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, what's up man? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Man? I could be better? But I'm living about stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm all right? But what what is it? I

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<v Speaker 2>mean ship? I feel like if it's cool with you,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, I don't mind if we uh get into

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<v Speaker 2>it here. I'm game, I'm game today. What Why could

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<v Speaker 2>you be doing better? Chris Man?

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<v Speaker 1>I just, I just I feel like I have big

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<v Speaker 1>dreams but like little dedication to follow through with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that makes any sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure that makes sense? What are your What are your dreams?

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to create music that emotionally,

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<v Speaker 1>that that helps people. I come from a childhood where

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<v Speaker 1>I mean truth told man, all I really had to

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<v Speaker 1>get me through my life was God and music. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean music. There was a tangible thing for me

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<v Speaker 1>that was always there for me. And like I want to,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to create music that helps people like the

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<v Speaker 1>music I listened to help me. I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of music was it that helped you?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean different cons? I don't. I don't like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>literally anything from heavy metal, conscious rap, like alternative rock.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Conscious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know like like j Cole, Kanye West, stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 2>And how how did this music help you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? It it kind of gave me bear with me.

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<v Speaker 1>It gave me the delusion that I should keep trying,

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<v Speaker 1>even though everything around me told me that I should

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<v Speaker 1>give up.

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<v Speaker 2>To put it politely, Uh, interesting, do you mean just

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<v Speaker 2>you mean give up on like living?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What what were the things around you telling you to

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<v Speaker 2>give up on living?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I mean I'm gonna go deep with me, mister Gick.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm fine with it, Okay. So just to

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<v Speaker 1>give you an idea of my life, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>earliest memories I have is of my dad picking up

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<v Speaker 1>a fan and throwing it at my mom while she

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<v Speaker 1>was in the bast of I was like when I

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<v Speaker 1>was four years old, and like just living in the

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<v Speaker 1>house with a bunch of drug users, living in a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of chaotic situations. Truth be told, man, I was

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<v Speaker 1>one of I was more so raised than I was

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<v Speaker 1>or not raised. I was grown more than I was raised.

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<v Speaker 2>Like.

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<v Speaker 1>My family provided me the basic necessities, and they, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>gave the mirage to everyone else that was a good

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<v Speaker 1>old happy family. But you know, I'd go to my

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<v Speaker 1>parents like I'd go to my mom's and ask her

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<v Speaker 1>just about anything, and she would always be too busy

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<v Speaker 1>or not right now? Or why are you always asking

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<v Speaker 1>things like this? And I just had very little. I

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<v Speaker 1>have very little emotional support. I guess that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>do appreciate music, because that was one of the few

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<v Speaker 1>things that did emotionally support me, even though I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know the artists personally. They're one telling me like keep going,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fight the storm, or you know whatever, stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have anyone besides the musicians that were hiding

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<v Speaker 2>you with some kind of guidance or support, Like did

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<v Speaker 2>you have any friends or like fucking like an uncle

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a grandpa. I mean he passed away whenever

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<v Speaker 1>I was fifteen, I think, But I mean really not,

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<v Speaker 1>not really. I was a really annoying kid. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be class clown, like I wanted people to

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<v Speaker 1>laugh at the jokes I said. But a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times if I would have raised my hand in class,

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<v Speaker 1>people would like audibly grown like they just it was

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<v Speaker 1>well known that people didn't like me. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess a good analogy would be that I was

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<v Speaker 1>always the last kid to get picked to like get

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<v Speaker 1>picked their team sports because it wasn't like I couldn't play,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just they didn't even want me around. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at the age now where I realized that the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I was acting like that is because I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get I was seeking attention from school, proping

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<v Speaker 1>from the lack of attention I got from home.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you were that kid, were you able to

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<v Speaker 2>make friends with any of the other weird kids, Because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's always like kind of a group

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<v Speaker 2>of like annoying kids that like get together and like

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<v Speaker 2>they can like fucking kind of be annoying amongst one another.

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<v Speaker 1>If I did, it was only at school, and it

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<v Speaker 1>would usually just be the people who would move, like

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<v Speaker 1>moved in from out of town. It's dumb. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I don't want to sit here and like

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<v Speaker 1>say that it's all their fault. Like I understand now

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<v Speaker 1>looking back at it, that was definitely an asshole, annoying kid.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just I mean, it's it was part of

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<v Speaker 1>my life. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think I don't I don't think you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying that it's anyone else's fault. I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even think you should say it's your final I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think fault is like a thing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>funny listening to you too. I'm gonna be honest, like

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<v Speaker 2>I was probably not that nice of a guy when

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<v Speaker 2>I was in like middle school, elementary school, maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>parts of high school, you know, and uh, I I

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<v Speaker 2>think that just like I don't know, man, being like

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<v Speaker 2>like that, like what I don't Once you get older

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<v Speaker 2>and you kind of start to build start to understand

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<v Speaker 2>that like everyone is the way that they are for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason that I mean, it's for some reason. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like outside of themselves, right, Like you're running around right

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<v Speaker 2>you know, uh, trying to get attention that you're not

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<v Speaker 2>getting at home, and it's like, damn, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, man. That's like when I when I died,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, those are the things, that's the only that's

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<v Speaker 2>the main thing I'll regret, like times I was like

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<v Speaker 2>a dick or you know, like yeah, especially like in

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<v Speaker 2>those younger years when it's like you got like children

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<v Speaker 2>who have very little empathy just naturally because of the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that they're kids. And then uh, you know, other

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<v Speaker 2>kids who are just trying to fucking figure out how

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<v Speaker 2>to exist and be be seen in some positive light.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like a recipe for disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. The wait I looked at it now

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<v Speaker 1>is it's it's basically like I just came to the

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<v Speaker 1>realization one day, like if I was born into your body,

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<v Speaker 1>lyle with your parents and your family, I would literally

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<v Speaker 1>be who you are today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, I agree. And it's the craziest

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's the one of the most existential mysteries that

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<v Speaker 2>I have can't really wrap my head around, is that

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<v Speaker 2>I there's no reason why I'm me and you're you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or like I like, I'll or like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't know. I'll walk by someone like living

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<v Speaker 2>on the street and I'm like, there's no real there's

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<v Speaker 2>no reason really why I'm me and there them, And

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<v Speaker 2>you could say, like, I don't know. This is now

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<v Speaker 2>we're getting into a conversation about like free will versus determinism,

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<v Speaker 2>But low key I'm a little with you, dude. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm a bit of a determined I'm a It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make me feel good to think about and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think and it doesn't make me feel empowered to

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<v Speaker 2>think about. But I'm a little deterministic, uh as a

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<v Speaker 2>treat sometimes, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I argue what you're saying. I think, No, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>in deism, but I think I think it's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>weird blend of free will and determinism. It's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>like you have the you have the ability to make

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<v Speaker 1>whatever choices you want in life, but there's certain things

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<v Speaker 1>that I guess you could say were just destined to

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<v Speaker 1>happen regardless.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, no, no, you go ahead, Like like if I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to right now, I could go and I could

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<v Speaker 1>literally drive across the country and never say anything to

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<v Speaker 1>anybody again. But at the end of the day, is

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<v Speaker 1>it like was that my free will to do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was I always going to do it? I just

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<v Speaker 1>chose to do it today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then well then you can get into the

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<v Speaker 2>thing of like, well, whatever way that you were raised

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<v Speaker 2>in your environment and the the neurons and whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to nern is and why I'm saying it,

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<v Speaker 2>but whatever the thing is that makes you you you

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<v Speaker 2>and your personality, Like how much of that ship like

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<v Speaker 2>like there are certain things within you that are giving

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<v Speaker 2>you the hesitation to just drop everything and move across

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<v Speaker 2>the country, or how much of that is your free

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<v Speaker 2>will versus just you following how you're naturally inclined, Like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I don't like when people say stuff like

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<v Speaker 2>doing things out of character, because everything everyone does is

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<v Speaker 2>within their character because they did it, I guess. But

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<v Speaker 2>also your character can hold a variety of competing things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I kind of tapping into something that I've been

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about a lot lately, Like I like reading people.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't really have. It's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>subconscious thing. I guess everyone does, but I do it

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<v Speaker 1>a lot like I read people, And I've come to

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<v Speaker 1>realize that a lot of people put on a social

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<v Speaker 1>facade because they don't want to seem quote unquote weird.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you like, look at every human being there is,

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<v Speaker 1>We're we're all fucking weird. Like we all have weird shit.

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<v Speaker 1>We do we it's just some of us are better

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<v Speaker 1>at hiding it than others. Kind of a question I've

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<v Speaker 1>been pondering on lately, like what is normal? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we were all raised to act normal, but we

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<v Speaker 1>were all raised differently too, so we all have different

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<v Speaker 1>standards of normal. So by default, by having different standards

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<v Speaker 1>of normal, we're all kind of weird just in that

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<v Speaker 1>one idea lit alone by the things we say and

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<v Speaker 1>do and our normalisms and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, No, I think i'bout that shit too. Somebody, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody asked me the other day if I think that

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<v Speaker 2>they're weird, and I told them that I can't really

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<v Speaker 2>answer that question because I think that I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>believe in like you're saying, any kind of like objective

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<v Speaker 2>baseline of normality. I guess there's like societally, there's like

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<v Speaker 2>a societally, there's a societal consensus of normality, and I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you can kinda determine what that societal consensus of

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<v Speaker 2>normality is and then what breaking away from it would be.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's no I don't even think there's like a

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<v Speaker 2>global sense of normality, right because whatever what's normal in

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<v Speaker 2>America is not normal in fucking North Korea. What's normal

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<v Speaker 2>at your house growing up is different from what's normal

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<v Speaker 2>a mind like it's there's too many And also we

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<v Speaker 2>don't we don't live in the consent since we just

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<v Speaker 2>live in our own fucking world. So no, I agree

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<v Speaker 2>with you. It's weird. It's one of those it's one

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<v Speaker 2>of those like an existential thoughts that makes me feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I can't grasp on to anything, right. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>the only the antidote to it seems to me to

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<v Speaker 2>be to kind of define your own baseline of normality,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe that's a little bit where your free will

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<v Speaker 2>can kick in.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it's like being that recognized that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people put on an act, and I saw it

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<v Speaker 1>that the way to kind of ground me is just

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<v Speaker 1>to literally be me and to not really give a

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<v Speaker 1>fuck about what people think about me. I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>I do care about what people think about me on

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<v Speaker 1>some deep level, but I also have like this switch

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind where I can go from where I

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<v Speaker 1>like deeply care in all like like what's the word

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<v Speaker 1>called like rumin this, I think that's ruminate. I'll ruminate

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<v Speaker 1>over a conversation. But then like once I've reached a

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<v Speaker 1>certain point with some people or when I realized they're

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<v Speaker 1>being like extra, I just I can I can shut

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<v Speaker 1>off that part of my mind. And it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just like you know, I'm me, and if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>like me, then that must mean we weren't meant to

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<v Speaker 1>be friends. So I hope you have a good life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally. And dude and dude people, I've I've thought

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<v Speaker 2>this my whole fucking life. Is that people will cling

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<v Speaker 2>deeply to like societal baselines of normality in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>how holding to them makes them somehow like objectively better

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<v Speaker 2>than you, you know, And then they'll kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>want you to like be at their level, not even consciously,

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<v Speaker 2>just like while you're talking to someone, like maybe your

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<v Speaker 2>brain will be like, oh am I cool enough to

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<v Speaker 2>be with this person because they're like so cool because

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<v Speaker 2>of this that and the other reason that we've elected

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<v Speaker 2>is cool or worthy. You're valid, Like is my existence

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<v Speaker 2>compared to this person's existence like valid?

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<v Speaker 1>You know. But I've noticed that from where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 1>I live in small town, USA, down south. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>I never really noticed it as a kid, but one

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<v Speaker 1>of my I used to talk to him. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>really friends anymore. He it's an old best random mine.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes from like a wealthier family, and he broke

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<v Speaker 1>you down to me one day, him and a few

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<v Speaker 1>other people there really is like a class, a social

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<v Speaker 1>class system, especially with people who were like I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you want to call them old money. Like there's people

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<v Speaker 1>where if you don't, if you're not in their presence

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<v Speaker 1>with a suit and tie, they automatically look down on you,

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<v Speaker 1>mm hmm, And it's yeah, that's that's kind of Those

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<v Speaker 1>are the people I don't play too, Like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't give a ship what they think about me,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're going to think what they think about me regardless.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, you don't have to. They don't. The the

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<v Speaker 2>the the universe, there's the universe has no like judge,

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<v Speaker 2>jury and executioner on like validity. You know, So like

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<v Speaker 2>if a guy and his friends and whatever have decided

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<v Speaker 2>that your uh validity or worth is based upon your

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not you're wearing a fucking suit or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, I mean, God bless I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 2>God bless them. Right, can live in their universe and

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<v Speaker 2>be happy in that universe, and that's their universe, but

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to like ruminate on your relation to

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<v Speaker 2>that universe, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the thing the people are usually only

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<v Speaker 1>roommate on are people I genuinely care about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess that's part of the reason why I

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<v Speaker 1>was common, because I, like, I don't really have that

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<v Speaker 1>many people I could consider friends here. Lately, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of older people who are you know, we're friends.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not like I can go out and have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of drinks with them and go to the

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<v Speaker 1>beach and hang out. It's more like I see them

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<v Speaker 1>on occasion, they get the inspiration, and then we talk

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<v Speaker 1>every now and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, hold on, man, how old are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I thought you were like like nineteen or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, said no. I thought, I guess I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was interpreting that you were saying that you can't drink.

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, no I can't. I just mean, like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I genuinely that the people I have around me that

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<v Speaker 1>are my age go to a church that I go to,

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<v Speaker 1>and they it's a part of it's it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>when I brought that class system because I noticed it

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<v Speaker 1>with them, like they come from not a more fortunate

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<v Speaker 1>like not like rich household, but a more fortunate household

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<v Speaker 1>than me. I guess the way I could put it

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<v Speaker 1>is like preppy, white kids, Like they act nice to

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<v Speaker 1>my face, but I can read it, like I can

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<v Speaker 1>read from their body the whole time. They're just talking

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<v Speaker 1>to me to be polite. And I've I've noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of people my age as well. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some who kind of stand out. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>my honesty kind of drows those people away because I

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<v Speaker 1>can be I'm trying to hold it back now, but

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<v Speaker 1>I could be a pretty fucking open book with people,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know it makes them uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So when you say your honestly drives people away,

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, what does that? How does that play out?

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<v Speaker 2>What does that look like?

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<v Speaker 1>Like we'll sit there and talk and you know, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about some issues that they've had, and I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll talk about it, and then I'll bring

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<v Speaker 1>up some issues I've had and it's I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it feels like they don't know how to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me because they think that I think differently than

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<v Speaker 1>them because I came from a different background than them.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm trying to remember a conversation I had with

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<v Speaker 1>this guy one time.

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<v Speaker 3>But the the theme of the conversation was basically, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you've had a harder life that must stuck then, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, in a way apologizing that he still

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<v Speaker 3>lived with his family.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that makes any sense, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I live on my own. I've been living on my

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<v Speaker 1>own since eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>But you mean like he felt he felt like guilty here, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeh yeah yeah, Okay, that's a good way of putting it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think there's that, and plus my eighty HDA

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<v Speaker 1>can to take over and like I could say, like

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<v Speaker 1>one example was with a guy who I guess we're

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<v Speaker 1>still considered friends, but more so friends that he talked

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<v Speaker 1>to every four or five months. He introduced me to

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<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend, and he made the mistake of saying, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry how you talk around her. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a teacher. She's like one of the bros. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was talking to her like she was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the bros. And ever since then, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it went from me and him talking every month and

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<v Speaker 1>him going out with me to he'll stop by and

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<v Speaker 1>say hello every now and then.

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<v Speaker 2>What were you What were you saying? What were you saying? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Where You're like, okay, yeah, she's one of the bros.

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<v Speaker 2>We can just like, what were you saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, me and him were running around their golf cart

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<v Speaker 1>in our town one day, and there's this specific alley

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<v Speaker 1>in my town where I've lived a lot of crazy

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<v Speaker 1>fucking parts of my life, and one in particular. Just

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<v Speaker 1>tell me if I need to stop, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's appropriate or not, but I was. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say, I was over at my stepmom's friend's house

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<v Speaker 1>and this random lady comes in, and after she comes in,

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<v Speaker 1>my stepmom and her friend go to the store. Let

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<v Speaker 1>her go walk into the store, and within five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of meeting the lady, she is giving me oral sex

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<v Speaker 1>on the couch of my stepmam's friends. But I told,

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<v Speaker 1>I told it, you know, I told him and his

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<v Speaker 1>girl that while we're going down the road, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was sing it because it makes me laugh when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, because it's it's fucking crazy like that

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<v Speaker 1>whole situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, hold on, okay, all right, all right, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>put a I'm truly going to put a pen in

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<v Speaker 2>the girlfriend's response to this story. But first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand this story. Okay, as far as I'm

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I know, this story is a random

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<v Speaker 2>lady comes into your house and gives you a blowjob.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I moved. I'm gonna kind of I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be quick, but I start from ground zero. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to move to Florida for a little bit, and I

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<v Speaker 1>moved back from and within two days I'm moving up.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad and my stepmom got into this huge argument.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like physical and all that. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>call the cops on them. He ended up leaving and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to stay at the house because I

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<v Speaker 1>was tired of his bullshit. So I went with my

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<v Speaker 1>step mom and we went to her friend's house. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was like the second day I was there. I

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<v Speaker 1>had smoked weed for the first time in like two years,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're hanging out out of nowhere. You know. We're

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<v Speaker 1>at my stepmom's friend's house, all right. Their friend comes

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<v Speaker 1>over and starts talking with them and says a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. But my stepmom and her friend who owns

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<v Speaker 1>the house, went to go to the gas station.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so your stepmom's friend's friend is over and you're

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<v Speaker 2>staying over at the stepmom's friend's house. R Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 1>When they go to the gas station, It's just me

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<v Speaker 1>and this lady who just walked in, so I've never

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<v Speaker 1>met before in my life. We're watching TV and she

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.399
<v Speaker 1>goes on her Facebook and pulls up a photo of

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<v Speaker 1>a younger version of her. Give him one. I'm high,

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 1>like hi, shit, like I ain't smoke weed in years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's first like high as fucked. She she shows me

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<v Speaker 1>the picture, She's like, don't you think she's cute? And

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<v Speaker 1>you know I wasn't. I mean, what the fuck el

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<v Speaker 1>was am I supposed to say? I said, yeah, she's cute.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing led to another brother and her.

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<v Speaker 2>This lady just randomly is giving like what like what

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<v Speaker 2>happened afterwards?

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>So she shold me her thing on her Facebook. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a younger picture of her. If she told me

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<v Speaker 1>it was her, and then all the blue she was

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<v Speaker 1>like if she asked me if I was still a virgin,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, yeah I was, because I was like

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<v Speaker 1>I was like sixteen at the time. Oh Jesus, and uh,

0:25:09.840 --> 0:25:12.119
<v Speaker 1>one thing lets her another. She takes off her bro

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<v Speaker 1>and and you know he tried to she well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you tried to commit oral sex on me, except

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 1>that was so high I couldn't even get hard. So

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<v Speaker 1>after like two minutes of her trying, I just went

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<v Speaker 1>into the other room where she just fucking left.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, Jesus christ Man, how old was this lady?

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<v Speaker 1>He told me she had a nine year old daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she was at least like forty or fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus christ What was that the last time you ever

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<v Speaker 2>saw this lady?

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<v Speaker 1>No, the last time I saw her. She was riding

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<v Speaker 1>the bicycle through town.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you did you say? Hi?

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<v Speaker 1>Was so fucking weird to me, Like, you know, in

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the moment, you know we're back, dude, you know, and

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 1>you're in the moment, you sitting there trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>what you can whenever post nut clarity comes later, What

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck was that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Okay, okay, Chris, right, yeah, okay, See, so uh basically,

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 2>so basically basically, you're hanging out with your friend and

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<v Speaker 2>his girlfriend. You just tell her a story about you

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<v Speaker 2>getting molested then and then she's like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to this guy anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she looking back on it, I didn't normal about

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 1>it because she the way the way my friend explained

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>it to me is that she's a teacher. She's heard

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of crazy shit and we were just riding around.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, I've got a bunch of

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 1>stories down this alley. Y'all want to go down, we can.

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you all some of them. I told him that,

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<v Speaker 1>and all I know she acted normal about it. All

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:22.479
<v Speaker 1>I know is after that day, I've seen the guds

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:23.880
<v Speaker 1>twice in over a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, Jesus Christ.

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's just here's the other one in that same

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>house at when I was sixteen. I never did it,

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>never will do it. Never. Ever, my stepma's friend showed

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 1>me how to smoke crack off of a coke can,

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and that shame fucking house.

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 2>Was it the same it? Was it the same fucking lady?

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>No, it wasn't. It wasn't the lady who tried to

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 1>It was her friend who owned the house. I guess

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>was written it at the time. Yeah, all right, No, they.

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Were so wait, did you did you did you smoke

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 2>the crack?

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:16.360
<v Speaker 1>No? No, no, no, never my dad. So I'm known

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 1>since thirteen that my dad smokes or used to smoke

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>mys And so I told myself, like, if it comes

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 1>in the shape of a rock, I'm not fucking with it,

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>all right, Like I'll smoke weed, I'll drink, I'll know,

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>I'll fucking eat mushrooms, but I'm not doing any of that.

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Ship mm hmmm mm hmm, so hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, so you told your friends that story and

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 2>sole Sally, you're having a heart Do you having a

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 2>hard time just like making friends? Let's get back to that.

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you think go ahead?

0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because I think there's a mixture of it.

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 1>But I think a lot of people don't know how

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>to read me. At first, I don't because I have

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:13.280
<v Speaker 1>really bad rest and fish face. But I recognize that

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>people get to know me, they actually enjoy my presence,

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 1>but there's some kind of disconnect, at least with people

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>my age. Like I get along really well with people

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>older than me, and I've been told that I'm the

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote old soul and all that shit. But me,

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>that's cool and all that. I want to I'd like

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>to connect with people my age, But I guess there's

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>also the social anxiety part of me that doesn't really

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>know how to. Because I didn't really like in the

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>government I grew up in. I didn't even want to

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>bring friends over because I didn't want them to see,

0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want them to see my dad's house filled

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>with roaches and rats and drugs and shit. And I

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't want them to see my mom's house where I

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>was constantly being yelled at and literally called fat ass

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>every day of my life. Like so I just kind

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 1>of self isolated as a kid, Like I would talk

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to people at school and like they would tell me

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>that they would tell me that they want me to

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:15.479
<v Speaker 1>come over and hang out, and then they call all

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the plans and all that. But whenever the time would

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>come and I try to call them the day of,

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>they would just ignore me, like over and over and

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 1>over again. And I guess I don't know if that's

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>like subconsciously passed down to me now, but I find

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>it difficult to put myself out there to really anybody.

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 3>Hm hmmmm.

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Like again, I could be really honest with people, like

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll use myself as an open book. I learned with

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>age try to dial that back a little bit. But

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>when I say put myself out there, I guess like

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>be emotionally vulnerable and suggest to the other person, like, hey,

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>we should be friends. Like I don't really know why,

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>but it kind of a daunting ideas to.

0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Me, Well, I mean, I got a few thoughts on that, is, uh,

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 2>I think at you go to church, right, yeah, Okay,

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>you're a man of God. You're a man of God. Well,

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 2>you're a man of God, but you're also an admittedly

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 2>peculiar gentleman with admittedly peculiar sense of humor and sense

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 2>of thought, which I think are good things to have.

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Is it that the reason I ask about church is because,

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, friendships are in some ways mechanical in the

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 2>sense that they're just like exposure over time. So like

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the people that you're regularly seeing at church every Sunday

0:31:52.840 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 2>or or more. If you're, uh, if you're going the regularly,

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 2>like do you have you not found anyone there that

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 2>you sort of like naturally connect with.

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>The two people I naturally connect with one is like

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>eighty and the other is like fifty five.

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, wait eighty and fifty five.

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Wow, Okay.

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I go to ton of a smaller church, and I've

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>actually I've really been considering moving churches. I'm probably going

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>to soon, but I just noticed, at least in my church,

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>all the college age kids who are around my age

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:47.719
<v Speaker 1>or it's it's like, you know, at a church, You're

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be a family. When I'm around them, I

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:54.479
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm more of a family friend than a

0:32:54.520 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>family mm hmm. Like it's it's kind of like they

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>don't miss me in my absence, but they'll say, hey, Chris,

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>we missed your last Sunday and that'll be it. Mm hmm.

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, tell me more about just your life, Chris, Like

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 2>what do you what do you? What do you do?

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Like if you go to school?

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Do you work? Hm? I work for a contracting company.

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm a team lead for it. It's basically a symbol

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>like furniture and grills and all that for Loew's and

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>home depots. Mm hmm. It's pretty good money. It keeps

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>me busy all the time. And when I'm not doing that,

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm djan DJ. Yeah. I don't know if you remember,

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not. I'm the guy who called a few

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>months back about I don't know you talked a lot.

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Of people, but oh oh, I didn't realize we talked before.

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we we have. I'm a guy who almost died

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>on acid. If that rings any bills, uh, it's not.

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't worry about it. Huh.

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 2>I feel like maybe I've tibe, maybe I've unfortunately talked

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.240
<v Speaker 2>to too many people who have almost died on acid.

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:31.879
<v Speaker 2>But I'm glad to be talking to you now. Okay,

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>you DJ, so I have so well. Actually, you know

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:37.360
<v Speaker 2>what is uh, I mean a few things right, is

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 2>you're already doing a lot of things that get you

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:47.840
<v Speaker 2>out into the universe. You know, you're not like, uh,

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 2>you're not a basement dweller. You spend a lot of

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 2>time in person around other people.

0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:00.919
<v Speaker 1>Well, I do wan dej, but at my full time job,

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm mainly just in the back room by myself. Like

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I listened to podcasts and music all day. That's kind

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>of how I got into your podcast because I got

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 1>tired of listening to Joe Rogan so I just went

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube and yours came up. And you know, it's

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>just a little side note. I appreciate what you do, man,

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>because like some of the guests you had on have

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:29.839
<v Speaker 1>made me feel really fucking normal. There's a weird baseline there,

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's helped me realize a lot of shit I

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>think of is not you know that weird, but I

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 1>mean it is difficult because again, you know, I'm in

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 1>the back room, and I've got headphones on all day

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>and there's just the only time people talk to me

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>is if they need something out of me. Now, there's

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>not really a lot of at work finter, mostly because

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't even really afford to. I get paid by

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>the piece, So anytime I spend not working is it's

0:35:58.280 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>time I'm losing money.

0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Do you feel are you like one of those kind

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 2>of like uh uh, proud lone wolf guys, or do

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:12.280
<v Speaker 2>you like feel lonely and long for connection?

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I used to be like that, but I long for connection.

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I do I feel like deep down everybody does. I

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>mean we're social creatures by nature. Yeah, something I think

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.839
<v Speaker 1>about a lot. I guess it's kind of in comparison

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>to that idea is like, even when we're born a woman.

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's been done before, but it's preferably that

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:40.439
<v Speaker 1>whenever a woman's given birth, there's at least one other

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:43.839
<v Speaker 1>person there. You know, modern America, there's a team of

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>people there because yea even be born, you know, it's

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of preferred that you have other people.

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 2>It takes a village for real.

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>And something that really reinforced that thought for me was

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>on that night that I did almost dive acid. I

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 1>had this weird visual. Let's just say I took twelve

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>times to recommend amount of dose acid. I took I

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>regular tabs one hundred micrograms. I took around twelve hundred

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>microgrounds of liquid LSD at one time. And during that

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 1>whole experience, I had the vision that I was in

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>outer space and I could go anywhere I wanted in

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the universe. And I remember thinking like, this is so cool,

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>it's so amazing. And I went to turn to tell

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>whoever I thought was next to me, like can you

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>believe it? And when I turned, no one was there.

0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 1>And when no one was there, I realized like I

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 1>could have everything I wanted. So if I don't have

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>anyone to share it with, what's the fucking point? Yeah?

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent, man, one hundred percent. So your whole

0:37:56.040 --> 0:38:00.919
<v Speaker 2>thing I okay, So let's go back to this whole

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.800
<v Speaker 2>thing of like you feel like you only get along

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 2>well with older people, Like you have an eighty year

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 2>old your best friends are eighty and fifty five and

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 2>you're twenty four. Is that accurate?

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean kind of my best My best friend

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:20.359
<v Speaker 1>right now is probably he's sixty one. He's my boss too,

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 1>So if you consider him a friend, mm hmm. I

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>mean I did used to have a friend group that

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 1>was in my age. We've met, like we became a

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>group my senior year, but it it kind of just

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>fell apart with Tom, Like one of the guys ended

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>up leaving and getting married. Everyone like three or four

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>of them just stopped talking to us, and it eventually

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 1>boiled down to me and this dude. I still consider

0:38:55.080 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>it like a brother, but he's not the same person anymore.

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 1>And I guess I'm not either. And he's kind of

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:11.239
<v Speaker 1>a covert narcissist, I'm sure, or I hope you do.

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what that is?

0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Sure? What makes you say he turned into that?

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think he was. I think he was like

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 1>that all along. It just took me years to realize,

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 1>but I realized that whenever we talk it it's always

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 1>about him.

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Like he would constantly talk about things he did or

0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>social dynamics in his household, and I would go along

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 1>with like, yeah, that's cool, man, that's cool, and it'd

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>be a little pause and then I call him one

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>day or I would say, you know, I made a

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:53.920
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars and eight hours today, bro, And he wouldn't

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>even say, oh, that's cool. He wouldn't even acknowledge it.

0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 1>He would just go in the like go and be

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>proud about something else he did. And it boiled down

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 1>to like when we get when we get into arguments

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 1>as friends. You know, we were friends for years and

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>friends will do that. Through the years, the arguments went

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>from you know, it was basically like if I ever

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:22.800
<v Speaker 1>tried to argue with him, I was the gas lader

0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and I was trying to manipulate him. So the last

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>time we talked, we were playing Rocket League, and so

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I hit the ball backwards and then he instinctively hit

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 1>the ball again and it went into the net. And

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>after he hit the ball into the net, he started

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 1>literally screaming at me, screaming at me, and I was like,

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>I was like, dude, I might have hit the ball backwards,

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 1>but you hit it in the net. Like, it's not

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>my fault. You hit in the neck. And he just

0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>went off and was like, no, I'm tired of you

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>always saying that I'm never right. Your gas slighted me

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:06.359
<v Speaker 1>about this. You know, it's your a fault. I just

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I was in a three year relationship with my ex fiancee,

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and she would do that same shit to me. So whenever,

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 1>whenever he started doing it, I actually went into chat

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.799
<v Speaker 1>GBT and I like put in our whole conversation and

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I asked chat GBT like am I gas lighting? Like

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>am I doing this? And I'm just not even aware

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:33.319
<v Speaker 1>of it? And I mean it told me that, see,

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing is the textbook definition of fucking gaslight.

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, whenever you're wrong, you don't admit you're wrong,

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:41.920
<v Speaker 1>you admit someone else is wrong, and you can't be

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 1>you can't be wrong. And so long story short, I

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 1>went off on him. I told him that, you know,

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 1>he needs to get over his fucking self and if

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 1>he wants to be my friend, he's got to cut

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the ship. And then he threatened to walk out of

0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 1>my life forever and all this shit, and so I

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 1>told him, that's what you want to do. I'd rather

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 1>be fucking happy and alone than deal with your bullshit

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>all the time. And yeah, that was That was the

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>last time I talked so well, one on one at least.

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 2>So, what's your what's your dating history? Like you said

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:23.280
<v Speaker 2>you had a fiance.

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Just to be told I've I've been in maybe three

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:37.800
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote serious relationships.

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of connections.

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess, I don't know.

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:48.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, uh yeah, no, no, go ahead, go ahead

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 2>and run me down.

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, the first one was whenever I was like eleven, okay,

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.319
<v Speaker 1>and I think quote unquote serious because we were like

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>best friends, so we never hugged and kissed or nothing

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>like that. We talked each other boyfriend or girlfriend.

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Tell me this is not another adults, it's not.

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 1>She was older than me, but only by a year.

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 1>All right, Good, that'd be kind of fucked if it was, though,

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't it.

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, all right, so yeah, go ahead. All right,

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 2>So there was the girl when you were eleven, and

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I get I get why that doesn't really count to you.

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, keep keep continue to run down.

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, the next one was an online relationship and that

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>ended because like he was in a she was in

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>like a cult Christian religion, like it's based on Christianity,

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>but it's very culty, like women aren't supposed to wear pants,

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 1>men are, We're supposed to wear shorts, type of cult

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 1>type stuff. And she was afraid to tell her dad

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 1>about me, and her, so we could never go on

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 1>dates or anything, so I should broke it off with her.

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 1>And then after her, well, shit, I couldn't. This one

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't really a serious relationship. But after her, I got

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a text message from a chick. Me and her took

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:27.919
<v Speaker 1>each other's virginity. I got caught in her dad's bed

0:44:27.960 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>one day and she moved from Southeast Georgia to fucking Seattle,

0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Washington within a week. Yeah, that was a mind fuck.

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>The last relationship I was zoon was with my fiance.

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I've known her since I was sixteen or fifteen, but

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:53.760
<v Speaker 1>we got together whenever I was seventeen, and we actually

0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 1>lived together and one bedroom, one bad house with no

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 1>living room. Anytime we were home, we were literally in

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the same bed all day. I don't know. After after

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 1>three years, I realized that I didn't really like her,

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>and then STREET be told I was in a sense,

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I was just kind of using her to get out

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:22.839
<v Speaker 1>of my dad's house, and it really messed me up.

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>And when I realized that I it was actually one accid.

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 1>When I realized that it was my first ego desk,

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I realized that I was using her, and I was like,

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 1>didn't really give a shit about how she felt. So

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 1>that changed my whole perspective on the relationship, and I

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:42.080
<v Speaker 1>decided to actually love her and like dedicate myself to

0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 1>her as best as I could. But as time went on,

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I just I realized that it's better for me to

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 1>not even be in a relationship with someone if I don't.

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>We just didn't click after a while. And it's kind

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 1>of interesting because so my sister had a baby shower

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.279
<v Speaker 1>and she never showed up to it, and when she did,

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I started filming. The relationship really fall apart. And so

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 1>I actually said a prayer to God, I mean just

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:18.280
<v Speaker 1>about verbatim, and I said, God, I want a career

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 1>in music, whatever that ends up being, and I want

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 1>a loving wife who wants to have kids with me

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:27.720
<v Speaker 1>and will die with me. I said, if that means

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that this girl has got to go, then so be it.

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 1>And about three or four days later, I get home

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>from work and all her shits out of our apartment. Hmm.

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>And two years later I get I get this job djaying.

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 1>But you know, after the relationship end it ended. I

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 1>decided that I was going to spend the three years

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I took away from her and spend it being single.

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>And so, uh, I was celibate for three years. Huh

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 1>and those three years ended back back in October, and

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>so now I'm I'm kind of out in the market

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 1>for that.

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.840
<v Speaker 2>And back in October, was this kind of like a

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:18.280
<v Speaker 2>one night stand thing or was this a lady you had?

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, at least some I didn't have to be

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 2>uh you know you're fucking uh No, someone you had

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 2>some form of, like, you know, deeper connection with.

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 1>No, it didn't end it because of a girl. I

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 1>just it was literally, like I said, a time frame.

0:47:35.600 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 1>I guess technically you could say I still am sole it.

0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 1>But I told myself I wasn't going to go out

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 1>looking for women or do anything. But I was basically

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>going to invest that time and on myself for three years.

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, okay, so it was the end of Okay

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 2>back in October is when you you didn't have sex

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:56.239
<v Speaker 2>with someone, you were just you just you just were like, uh,

0:47:56.920 --> 0:48:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I am declaring myself market I'm declaring my penis open

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:01.840
<v Speaker 2>for business.

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:06.719
<v Speaker 1>There you go, Okay, and what does that.

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Look like for you? Where are you going out? Are

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 2>you on apps?

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I'm on tender and Christian mingle and Facebook dating.

0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:19.280
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of funny though, because I downloaded all those

0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:23.399
<v Speaker 1>and like two or three weeks ago, I was at

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 1>a gig. I was actually doing a Christmas party for

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 1>home Depots, doing my thing, and towards the end of

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:35.719
<v Speaker 1>my set, this waitress sends her friend over and her

0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:39.960
<v Speaker 1>friend says that the waitress thinks I look cute, which is,

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, a fucking first for me. But this girl

0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:46.000
<v Speaker 1>was like gorgeous, like beautiful. I couldn't believe it. Like

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I thought I looked ugly as shit going in there.

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:52.799
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe that she thought I was. Yeah, so

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I got her number and all that, and I even

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:56.959
<v Speaker 1>gave her a hug by the end of the night

0:48:57.080 --> 0:48:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and get it, like she wanted to get to know me,

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.439
<v Speaker 1>and till the next day where she just fucking left

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:05.560
<v Speaker 1>me on red for like three days straight.

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:11.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you can't. Yeah, yeah you can't. And I've learned

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 2>this in my own uh uh dating endeavors, because I

0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:22.840
<v Speaker 2>get like that, I fall. I think I fall pretty quick.

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:27.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, you can you really you can't. You You

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:35.360
<v Speaker 2>either can't get too emotionally invested too deeply fast, And

0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean like you know, first meet, first date kind

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:40.919
<v Speaker 2>of fast, you know what I mean, Or you can,

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:46.720
<v Speaker 2>but but you know, you got to accept that you uh,

0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 2>you might get left on a red And also you

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:51.759
<v Speaker 2>can't I mean, you can't be upset with it, right,

0:49:51.800 --> 0:49:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you meet somebody once, it's like you're

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:57.800
<v Speaker 2>a stranger to them, you know, like they don't uh,

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, you got to accept your role in their

0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 2>life as a as a stranger ultimately.

0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Of course, sure, Like I even it's it's kind of

0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 1>funny because after the giggle was over, before I left,

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I actually set him know the prayer to God, and

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, I don't want to waste

0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:21.439
<v Speaker 1>my time if this is if this is the girl

0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 1>you got in mind for me, and let me know soon.

0:50:24.520 --> 0:50:26.239
<v Speaker 1>And if it's not, no, I say, if this girl

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 1>of mine you've got a mind for me, let me know.

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 1>If it's not, let me know soon. And I mean

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I was, I was notified pretty quickly. But don't it

0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:39.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't I understand, Like it didn't mess me up when

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:43.919
<v Speaker 1>it happened, but it wasn't really about her, Like I'm

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:46.600
<v Speaker 1>over it now, Like I could give a fuck about

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:50.319
<v Speaker 1>her at this point she's a stranger again. But and

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:53.480
<v Speaker 1>at that time, the way she did it, it was

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:57.319
<v Speaker 1>like it almost like sent my nervous system into a

0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:00.640
<v Speaker 1>flashback to all those other times I was rejected as

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a kid, and it.

0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure.

0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:04.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean it fucked me up for a good day,

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Like it had me crying, but it wasn't. I wasn't

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:12.040
<v Speaker 1>even crying about her. I was like crying about this

0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:13.799
<v Speaker 1>the emotional state I was in.

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll do that. That'll do that. I'll

0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:22.360
<v Speaker 2>send you on a kind of an emotional roller coaster.

0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:24.319
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, you're not even like upset about like this

0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.359
<v Speaker 2>lady specifically, You're just kind of like, damn, why am

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I on this?

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:51:29.000 --> 0:51:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't like being on this train?

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:31.080
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:33.319
<v Speaker 2>It kind of yeah, harkens you back to like you

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:38.560
<v Speaker 2>could be, fucking man, I could be. You could be

0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:41.440
<v Speaker 2>you could be a full fledged adult and have some

0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 2>form of rejection that makes you feel like you're in

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 2>like middle school again.

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Really, I mean absolutely, dude, It's like it put me

0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:53.720
<v Speaker 1>right back in that place. Yeah, And like it's support

0:51:53.800 --> 0:51:55.920
<v Speaker 1>of all of me is because I try to I

0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:58.400
<v Speaker 1>like to think of myself as the logical person and

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:02.239
<v Speaker 1>all that, But whenever emotions like that, almost like all

0:52:02.320 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>logic leads a fucking window, and it's just kind of

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:06.920
<v Speaker 1>a you know, you just kind of got to go

0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:07.920
<v Speaker 1>with your nervous system.

0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:11.479
<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you the let me tell you the great. Well,

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:16.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's so great, but uh powerful

0:52:16.080 --> 0:52:22.560
<v Speaker 2>maybe uh realization I have learned in my life over

0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and over and over again, and I'm sure you have too.

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:29.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure a lot of people listening to this have

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:35.960
<v Speaker 2>uh made this realization over and over again. The nervous

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:42.759
<v Speaker 2>system of the body does not respond to logic. You

0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:47.880
<v Speaker 2>can like it just doesn't respond to logic, right, You

0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:52.239
<v Speaker 2>could be like you can try to like logic yourself

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 2>out of like emotional pain or or even like or

0:52:56.160 --> 0:52:59.440
<v Speaker 2>like convince yourself you don't care about something or someone,

0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:03.880
<v Speaker 2>convince yourself that you're that you're gonna feel a certain

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:06.480
<v Speaker 2>way in a certain situation, or you're not gonna feel

0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:09.400
<v Speaker 2>a certain way in a certain certain situation, and you

0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:12.960
<v Speaker 2>can you can logically decide that you shouldn't feel a

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.319
<v Speaker 2>certain way and all this and the other thing, and

0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:18.240
<v Speaker 2>your fucking central nervous system is gonna do whatever's gonna do. Anyway,

0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:20.719
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't give a fuck about your logic, you know.

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for real, it's kind of crazy.

0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:31.239
<v Speaker 2>I have two more things for you before we go.

0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>One.

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I do have to know what's going on on Christian Mingle.

0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 2>What's the vibe, what's happening?

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 1>What?

0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Who are these people? What are the people like?

0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:45.040
<v Speaker 1>What?

0:53:44.560 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

0:53:45.040 --> 0:53:45.600
<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:45.799
<v Speaker 1>What?

0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Does I just want the rundown on Christian Mingle.

0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:54.080
<v Speaker 1>It's I don't like it. You get like five likes

0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:57.440
<v Speaker 1>and they push a subscription on it, and normally that

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 1>it's to put it nice. The females on there are

0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>not my type.

0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Who's your type?

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to sound shallow, but like pretty females,

0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're alone and wanting to be physically

0:54:19.680 --> 0:54:24.759
<v Speaker 2>attracted to the person you want your partner to be.

0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's I guess there's also like an

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:35.719
<v Speaker 1>emotional it's mhm okay. The way I kind of put

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 1>is like, you could be a ten out of ten,

0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 1>but if if you're emotionally a three, you are automatically

0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:47.560
<v Speaker 1>a three in my head. So I guess I'm looking

0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:50.279
<v Speaker 1>for the needle in the haystack that's at least to

0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:53.840
<v Speaker 1>me the attractive ten out of ten and a minimum

0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:55.160
<v Speaker 1>emotional eight out of tea.

0:54:57.200 --> 0:55:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that I I think that's what everyone wants.

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I think I think everyone wants somebody that they're physically

0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:06.560
<v Speaker 2>but you know, men and women. I think everyone wants

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 2>somebody that they're uh physically attracted to and like as

0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:13.560
<v Speaker 2>a person. I don't think that that's a I don't

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:16.239
<v Speaker 2>think that's a niche desire by any means.

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 1>You would be surprised, mister kick me would be surprised.

0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I met a lot of I've met a lot of

0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:31.560
<v Speaker 1>men who are like they don't care if they just

0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:34.040
<v Speaker 1>want what they can get. They don't care about anything

0:55:34.120 --> 0:55:35.800
<v Speaker 1>but looks. I've met a lot.

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Of people like that, they don't care about anything but looks.

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm.

0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like I'm trying not to I'm trying not to

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:49.560
<v Speaker 1>be shallow. I'm trying to think of a PC way

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 1>of putting it. But like, so forgive me. But I

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:55.399
<v Speaker 1>mean the girl could be damage rocks and like cheat

0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:58.360
<v Speaker 1>on the god, but he won't care because he's a

0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:00.440
<v Speaker 1>ten out of ten that he can go in like

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:05.239
<v Speaker 1>boast about to hall his buddies. Yeah, I try to

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:09.200
<v Speaker 1>avoid people like that, but unfortunately with my line of work,

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I run into a few of them.

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have a weird question. Is there anyone on because,

0:56:16.560 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 2>like you know, on all these on all the dating apps,

0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:21.319
<v Speaker 2>you can kind of like write like what you're looking for?

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Is there anyone? Have you ever come across a profile

0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:30.360
<v Speaker 2>on Christian Mingle where it's like, I'm actually not looking

0:56:30.400 --> 0:56:34.719
<v Speaker 2>for marriage, I want a casual hookup situation, but I

0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:36.320
<v Speaker 2>want them to be Christian.

0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure there probably is. It wouldn't surprise.

0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Like ause I would, because that's the kind of website

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:48.759
<v Speaker 2>where I'm like, I don't know, could you even put

0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:51.600
<v Speaker 2>that as an option? Could you even put like figuring

0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 2>out your dating goals or whatever? Whatever the Christian Mingle

0:56:56.719 --> 0:56:59.719
<v Speaker 2>version of that is. I guess that kind of makes

0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 2>that I could see why that would be appealing to someone.

0:57:05.520 --> 0:57:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I think there is, it's just for me, Like, I

0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:12.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I truth be told, I've kind of just

0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:17.440
<v Speaker 1>stopped reading bios because I realized, you at least I'm

0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:20.720
<v Speaker 1>wasting my time doing it, like I'm just gonna dislike

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the girls I don't find attractive and like the ones

0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I do. And on the fucking two percent chance they

0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:31.080
<v Speaker 1>like me back. I'll assess the situation then.

0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Uh okay, My second thing, my last thing is

0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to leave this conversation with some kind of

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:50.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, Chris, listen, Chris, I think you're a I

0:57:50.320 --> 0:57:52.640
<v Speaker 2>think you're a nice guy. I think you're at chill dune.

0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 2>I think I think you're a smart guy. I think you, uh,

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:04.600
<v Speaker 2>clearly have values. I think that you're you know, deep thinker,

0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 2>and you got a lot of great qualities my friends,

0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:10.000
<v Speaker 2>and I want to I just want to I don't know,

0:58:10.240 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe a last minute brainstorm of some

0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:20.920
<v Speaker 2>kind as to uh, like what could you do? You

0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:24.440
<v Speaker 2>just gotta I think making And we've talked about this

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:28.160
<v Speaker 2>to to death on this show, but you know, making

0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:31.680
<v Speaker 2>friends again, it's just like exposure over time, right, So, like,

0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:39.640
<v Speaker 2>can you think of any thing outside of your normal

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:42.760
<v Speaker 2>day to day routine that you could start to regularly

0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 2>invest yourself in. I mean music's a great one, as like,

0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:50.160
<v Speaker 2>cause I don't and what what what town? What city

0:58:50.200 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 2>do you live in? You know, if it's like a

0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 2>small one, you just you know, you have to give

0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:56.160
<v Speaker 2>me the longitude latitude. But like where you're near.

0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm about I think I'm like a good hour and

0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:03.760
<v Speaker 1>a half from making Georgia.

0:59:04.720 --> 0:59:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, are you like, are you like middle of nowhere

0:59:06.560 --> 0:59:07.720
<v Speaker 2>at Georgia.

0:59:08.840 --> 0:59:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm fucking I'm in the deep South where they sit

0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:13.800
<v Speaker 1>here and thought light latest brothers?

0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:18.000
<v Speaker 2>All Right, is there any is there any hope or

0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:21.600
<v Speaker 2>chance or even the desire or you know, I know

0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:24.919
<v Speaker 2>money's tight, but is there any any anything of you

0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:30.040
<v Speaker 2>getting out of there?

0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:33.800
<v Speaker 1>There? There is, It's just with my DJing work, it's

0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 1>all based out of the town I live in, and

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I like, I'm not an independent DJ. I work for

0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:43.120
<v Speaker 1>a guy who's been doing it for over forty years,

0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and he actually gets the gigs for me. It's kind

0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of ironic because I spent my whole childhood telling myself

0:59:50.920 --> 0:59:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that when I turn eighteen, I'm getting the fuck out

0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:56.640
<v Speaker 1>of Georgia. But I'm kind of at this situation now

0:59:56.800 --> 1:00:00.520
<v Speaker 1>where I like to think of it as I'm in bating,

1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:04.240
<v Speaker 1>like I'm getting as much knowledge as I can in

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<v Speaker 1>this business so that you know when the time comes,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's my boss is sixty one right now, so

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<v Speaker 1>I figured ten fifteen years from now, whenever he retires

1:00:16.080 --> 1:00:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably gonna move. I think my next move would

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<v Speaker 1>be like Savannah, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because here's the thing. If you want to start

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<v Speaker 2>building a robust social life of some kind, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to go where the people are. And it doesn't it

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<v Speaker 2>just sounds like you're naturally not around that many people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I'm not. And again a big issue with that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just my full time job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if I were to move to Savannah but still

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<v Speaker 1>worked the full time job, I would kind of be isolated. Still.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you know, I've got my hope in DJing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've I'm very self critical, so I don't really believe it,

1:00:56.800 --> 1:00:59.360
<v Speaker 1>but I get told over and over again. Then I'm

1:00:59.360 --> 1:01:01.760
<v Speaker 1>a good DJ, and you know, people tip me and

1:01:01.840 --> 1:01:05.400
<v Speaker 1>pay for overtime. So I guess. I guess when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>down here, I need to really work on like I need.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to work on building like a social network.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's fucking complicated because I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, man, Like I want to make more friends

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<v Speaker 1>than I would like to be. I'd like to work.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to DJ full time for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>my life. But you know, that's where it comes into

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<v Speaker 1>networking and knowing a lot of people. Mm hmmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, look, I'll say this because only only

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<v Speaker 2>you know your situation. I'm not going to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>to quit your job or whatever and run away from home,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'll say that. I'll say this, Chris, I think

1:01:57.640 --> 1:02:00.360
<v Speaker 2>you're I think you're a nice student. I think that

1:02:03.000 --> 1:02:06.360
<v Speaker 2>what's between in my eyes, what's between you and making

1:02:06.400 --> 1:02:10.680
<v Speaker 2>friends and whatnot, is again just like the fact that

1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:13.080
<v Speaker 2>you're just not naturally exposed to that many people by

1:02:13.160 --> 1:02:21.280
<v Speaker 2>nature of your life. You know, I'm not, uh, and

1:02:21.320 --> 1:02:24.240
<v Speaker 2>I and I and I I guess I. I I

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<v Speaker 2>hope that you through whatever means exist within your existence

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<v Speaker 2>and UH hope, I don't know, maybe you find the

1:02:34.320 --> 1:02:39.320
<v Speaker 2>inspiration to create those means. Should should we move away

1:02:39.440 --> 1:02:47.000
<v Speaker 2>from both of our unhealthy obsession with determinism? Uh? I

1:02:47.040 --> 1:02:50.000
<v Speaker 2>hope you find or create some kind of means to

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<v Speaker 2>like build some life for yourself where you're you're just

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<v Speaker 2>naturally around more people because I don't from talking to you.

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<v Speaker 2>And trust me, we've had people on this show before

1:03:05.120 --> 1:03:08.720
<v Speaker 2>that I've talked to and I'm like, I can understand

1:03:11.680 --> 1:03:14.680
<v Speaker 2>with no judgment, of course, but I can understand why

1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:17.120
<v Speaker 2>people might have a hard time being around this person

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't. I've been talking for an hour. I

1:03:19.920 --> 1:03:22.240
<v Speaker 2>don't strike you as you know, a tough guy to

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<v Speaker 2>be around. So for you, I think it's it's again

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna be about like building a life where you're

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<v Speaker 2>naturally around more people. However you can do that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like keeping an open mind, right because again,

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<v Speaker 2>you you walk around if you walk around being like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh I don't get along with other people my age,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, well you you might miss you might miss something.

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<v Speaker 2>Because also, people don't give you everything all. That's another

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<v Speaker 2>thing I've learned as I try to make more connections

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<v Speaker 2>in my life is that people don't give you everything

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<v Speaker 2>all at once. So if you're having a converse with

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<v Speaker 2>someone and this is a fucking guy, I was. I

1:04:06.680 --> 1:04:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I work out of this coworking space where I edit,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, this is a guy there. And the first

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<v Speaker 2>time I met him, I was I hated him. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, this is and I didn't hate him, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, this is like a normy, boring,

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<v Speaker 2>like tech guy. Like I don't want to fucking talk

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<v Speaker 2>to this guy as we have no nothing in common whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And then one night, like I just I actually really

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<v Speaker 2>I was like kind of put all of that aside

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<v Speaker 2>and I like decided to like really engage with him,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh we had a we had a really great

1:04:43.480 --> 1:04:46.160
<v Speaker 2>conversation and we connected over a bunch of different things

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<v Speaker 2>that I didn't even think, uh we would be able

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about because I was being so uh preemptive beforehand.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, uh not everyone never everyone know yeah, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no one's gonna give you everything all at once, So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, try to try to naturally be around more

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<v Speaker 2>people and try to keep in mind that they're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna reveal themselves to you completely off the bat, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you got to keep somewhat of an open mind.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the that's the that's the that's the that's

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<v Speaker 2>the therapy Gecko. That that's that's as much therapy Gecko

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<v Speaker 2>as this as the ninety one grams of caffeine in

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<v Speaker 2>this diet Mountain dew will will allow me to provide

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<v Speaker 2>for you today.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris, Well, I appreciate your telling, mister Gek, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>definitely he definitely gave me some good advice there, like

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<v Speaker 1>putting myself around more people more and kind of understanding

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<v Speaker 1>that they you know what I took from it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>basically like they're not you know, like you said, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna give you their full cells all at once.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost that they kind of have to get to

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<v Speaker 1>trust you and then trust themselves around you in order

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<v Speaker 1>for them to really open up.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, you told me this whole thing about you

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<v Speaker 2>being an open book and how you feel like that's

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<v Speaker 2>a bad thing. But I don't know, man, You're like

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<v Speaker 2>the environment, the environment you're in sounds like, and I

1:06:22.040 --> 1:06:24.120
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be too judgmental, but the environment you're

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<v Speaker 2>in sounds like there's not a strong enough of a

1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:34.320
<v Speaker 2>sample size a variety of people for you to make

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<v Speaker 2>those assumptions about yourself that being kind of vulnerable or

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<v Speaker 2>putting yourself out there is inherently bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree with that. Like, what I guess my

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<v Speaker 1>issue is is that I kind of dive head in

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<v Speaker 1>head first. Are used to Now it's not that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not honest, is that I kind of lit out a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit my little pieces because I've I just I've

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<v Speaker 1>had a situation where someone has tried to use that against.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, So you know, yeah, that'll have Yeah, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's what. That's what when you put yourself out

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<v Speaker 2>that's why. Yeah, that's why that'll happen if you if

1:07:23.080 --> 1:07:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you put yourself out there and you trust people and

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<v Speaker 2>you're vulnerable with people, they will use that against you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you it it's inherent. But part of being a

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<v Speaker 2>person that does that is like is like accepting it

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<v Speaker 2>as like you know, the tax. It's unfortunate, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like a tax. So to say to

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<v Speaker 2>me sometimes to say like, oh, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>put myself out there because people will use it against me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like it's like it's like saying I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to I think I'm stealing this from someone. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>like saying I don't want to jump off a diving

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<v Speaker 2>board and because I'll fall in that pool and get wets.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like that's part of the thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't want to get in the car. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to get in a car because I might

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<v Speaker 2>get in a car accidents.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, well I think I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what I'm gonna take from this because I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a while, it's all right, what I'm gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>Since I wear headphones a lot, I'm gonna try to

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<v Speaker 1>take them off more and like instead of instead of

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<v Speaker 1>eating lunch by myself, I'll just go into the bark

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<v Speaker 1>room and like, you know, try to interact with people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good idea. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you, Tom, mister Gek. I hope you have

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<v Speaker 1>a blessing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey you too, man, God bless you, sir. You take

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<v Speaker 2>care of Chris. I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea, sir, you do the same.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Chris. I liked Chris. Chris was a nice guy,

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<v Speaker 2>sweet boy. Interesting lore of a person. Uh But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know a deep a deep a deep, a deep thinker,

1:09:10.840 --> 1:09:14.120
<v Speaker 2>a sensitive soul who like like all of us, just

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<v Speaker 2>wants to find their purpose in life and connect with others.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he'll do it, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>he'll do it. What kind of djaying gigs is he

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<v Speaker 2>doing though in the Deep South?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What like? What is he dj like? Is he he's

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<v Speaker 2>not doing bar Mitzvah's there's no there's he's not doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he like playing like sweet sixty to like church gigs?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess there's no because he's not he's not like

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<v Speaker 2>at like a Berlin Uban you know, crazy E d

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<v Speaker 2>M dance club, or maybe he is. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's a big techno scene in southern Georgia. Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hey there, what's up man?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Rocky, like Rocky.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to meet you, Rocky. What's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I won eleven thousand dollars in a lottery about two

1:10:17.080 --> 1:10:22.040
<v Speaker 4>to three weeks ago, and my wife of about eight

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<v Speaker 4>to nine years ago or sorry sorry, my wife of

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<v Speaker 4>eight to nine years she kind of spent all the

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<v Speaker 4>money and then left me. So it's been a really

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<v Speaker 4>tough Christmas h kind of coming up and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, she spent all the money and left you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she bought Christmas presents for her whole family and

1:10:50.840 --> 1:10:54.120
<v Speaker 4>then decided she didn't want anything to do with me anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>So she had kind of a mental breakdown after and

1:10:58.920 --> 1:11:04.040
<v Speaker 4>then went to a crisis intervention unit. And I did

1:11:04.080 --> 1:11:05.960
<v Speaker 4>my best to try and be there for her as

1:11:06.000 --> 1:11:09.640
<v Speaker 4>I could be during that time, and she blocked me

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<v Speaker 4>on everything after and I haven't heard from her since.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, mm, is this something that like like like

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<v Speaker 2>are you is this something where you're like, Okay, this

1:11:26.800 --> 1:11:29.240
<v Speaker 2>kind of tracks like she's done something like this before,

1:11:29.360 --> 1:11:31.639
<v Speaker 2>or you're like, this is totally out of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Blue with this much money, it's kind of out of

1:11:36.840 --> 1:11:41.160
<v Speaker 4>the blue. But throughout our relationship, she's always had issues.

1:11:41.240 --> 1:11:46.520
<v Speaker 4>She struggles with DPD, you know, different.

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<v Speaker 1>She has like.

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<v Speaker 4>Schizophrenia and stuff too, So that's kind of always been

1:11:51.040 --> 1:11:55.000
<v Speaker 4>an issue, and it's I understand it's kind of my

1:11:55.080 --> 1:11:59.400
<v Speaker 4>fault for choosing to be with her through the ups

1:11:59.400 --> 1:12:04.559
<v Speaker 4>and downs, but yeah, it's kind of always been an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 2>Well and when it's been an issue, how has it

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<v Speaker 2>usually been resolved in the past.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a really good question. Usually she kind of ends

1:12:22.120 --> 1:12:29.400
<v Speaker 4>up just kind of taking off somewhere and eventually she

1:12:29.600 --> 1:12:34.280
<v Speaker 4>will come back. But this time it's kind of different,

1:12:34.320 --> 1:12:37.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, like blocking me on everything and and just

1:12:37.960 --> 1:12:45.479
<v Speaker 4>not wanting anything to do with me. Yeah, kind of

1:12:45.479 --> 1:12:47.439
<v Speaker 4>a shame. We don't have any kids or anything, so

1:12:47.479 --> 1:12:50.679
<v Speaker 4>that makes it easier, but we do have six cats,

1:12:50.760 --> 1:12:54.479
<v Speaker 4>so that's kind of a lot of animals for one person.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, where what's wh where are the cats?

1:12:59.760 --> 1:12:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>They live with me in my house here. Yeah, So

1:13:09.720 --> 1:13:13.320
<v Speaker 4>it's just kind of been our own little family, and

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<v Speaker 4>I know this is the last call and everything, so

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want it to be too depressing. But I've

1:13:19.479 --> 1:13:21.760
<v Speaker 4>been sleeping on the couch for the last week or

1:13:21.760 --> 1:13:27.479
<v Speaker 4>two and haven't really been able to do anything. So

1:13:27.560 --> 1:13:30.719
<v Speaker 4>it's just kind of been it's been rough.

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<v Speaker 2>How does it? How does it okay? So she said

1:13:33.400 --> 1:13:35.600
<v Speaker 2>she's done this kind of shit before, like how do

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<v Speaker 2>you normally? Like, I'll ask kind of a different version

1:13:39.560 --> 1:13:42.080
<v Speaker 2>of the same question, like how do you normally respond

1:13:42.120 --> 1:13:46.080
<v Speaker 2>to it? In the past, I don't cope.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I struggle with my own mental illness. I have PTSD,

1:13:51.560 --> 1:13:57.240
<v Speaker 4>and I just kind of shut down and I sit

1:13:57.320 --> 1:14:00.800
<v Speaker 4>on the couch or lay down and I will won't eat,

1:14:00.920 --> 1:14:05.280
<v Speaker 4>hardly drink, and I will just cope by full of

1:14:05.439 --> 1:14:10.280
<v Speaker 4>anxiety for days, you know, which isn't healthy. But everything

1:14:10.320 --> 1:14:12.240
<v Speaker 4>I try to do to bring me any bit of

1:14:12.240 --> 1:14:16.519
<v Speaker 4>happiness just doesn't work. I used to make YouTube videos

1:14:16.560 --> 1:14:19.639
<v Speaker 4>to try and kind of bring some joy to my life,

1:14:20.840 --> 1:14:25.160
<v Speaker 4>but unfortunately that didn't pan out. So I just kind

1:14:25.160 --> 1:14:28.640
<v Speaker 4>of move going to other things, and now it just

1:14:28.720 --> 1:14:31.120
<v Speaker 4>kind of feels like really nothing brings me joy anymore.

1:14:31.200 --> 1:14:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, what was the last thing that did bring you joy.

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<v Speaker 4>The last thing that did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a good question.

1:14:48.720 --> 1:14:54.320
<v Speaker 4>It's been a while, man, besides you know, just seeing

1:14:54.320 --> 1:14:58.920
<v Speaker 4>a smile on my wife's face. It's it's been little

1:14:58.920 --> 1:15:02.960
<v Speaker 4>things here and there to bring joy. I suppose, like

1:15:03.040 --> 1:15:05.400
<v Speaker 4>when the cat comes up to me it starts purring,

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<v Speaker 4>or when I do eventually get into a game that

1:15:10.680 --> 1:15:14.200
<v Speaker 4>I really enjoy, uh, sometimes final bring some joy.

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<v Speaker 2>So you so this has happened a bunch of times,

1:15:18.080 --> 1:15:22.000
<v Speaker 2>like where your wife has kind of like gone off

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<v Speaker 2>the deep end a little bit and and kind of

1:15:24.080 --> 1:15:27.280
<v Speaker 2>pushed you away, and and there's been like a breakup.

1:15:28.800 --> 1:15:31.200
<v Speaker 2>H Yeah, and how long does that? How long does

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<v Speaker 2>that typically last?

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<v Speaker 4>For it can last anywhere from a week to about

1:15:39.439 --> 1:15:42.040
<v Speaker 4>two or three.

1:15:42.360 --> 1:15:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and how long has it been? You said.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, it's it's been like a week or two.

1:15:53.200 --> 1:15:55.679
<v Speaker 2>And this is then this just happens all the time,

1:15:55.760 --> 1:15:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Like she's just always like kind of falling off the

1:15:58.840 --> 1:16:01.920
<v Speaker 2>deep end and like leave them without a trace. And

1:16:01.960 --> 1:16:05.439
<v Speaker 2>then like what does she like how does it like

1:16:05.800 --> 1:16:08.400
<v Speaker 2>does she like come back? Do you go to her?

1:16:08.680 --> 1:16:10.599
<v Speaker 2>Like what has this normally been playing out?

1:16:12.200 --> 1:16:17.360
<v Speaker 4>She does come back? But that's kind of well, unless

1:16:17.400 --> 1:16:20.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't reach out or anything, which I've tried, but again,

1:16:21.240 --> 1:16:23.439
<v Speaker 4>this is kind of the first time she's like completely

1:16:23.479 --> 1:16:27.160
<v Speaker 4>blocked me on everything, so I haven't been able to

1:16:27.240 --> 1:16:33.519
<v Speaker 4>reach out. But it's it's interesting. When things are good,

1:16:33.600 --> 1:16:38.519
<v Speaker 4>they're great, they're amazing, and I couldn't be happier. Yeah,

1:16:38.560 --> 1:16:42.120
<v Speaker 4>and they're not always like this. It happens usually around

1:16:42.240 --> 1:16:45.760
<v Speaker 4>July or Christmas time. I don't know if it has

1:16:45.800 --> 1:16:48.559
<v Speaker 4>anything to do with things she's been through in her past,

1:16:49.600 --> 1:16:52.920
<v Speaker 4>but I try to be as accepting as possible, you know,

1:16:53.160 --> 1:16:55.479
<v Speaker 4>But when I have my family telling me like, hey,

1:16:55.520 --> 1:16:58.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, you need to you need to stand up

1:16:58.120 --> 1:17:01.439
<v Speaker 4>for yourself, and in all this, my friends telling me

1:17:01.600 --> 1:17:04.080
<v Speaker 4>like it's your fault for allowing her to use you

1:17:04.200 --> 1:17:07.320
<v Speaker 4>like this, I understand that. But at the same time,

1:17:07.360 --> 1:17:10.960
<v Speaker 4>when I married my wife, it was like, well, I

1:17:11.040 --> 1:17:15.080
<v Speaker 4>married her for a purpose and to for better or worse.

1:17:15.200 --> 1:17:15.400
<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I get you, man, Oh yeah, no, I get you.

1:17:20.400 --> 1:17:20.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:17:20.640 --> 1:17:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's the that's the secret sauce of the

1:17:22.920 --> 1:17:26.120
<v Speaker 2>toxic relationships is like it's like fuck, when it's good,

1:17:26.120 --> 1:17:29.360
<v Speaker 2>it's like so good, and like, you know, your friends

1:17:29.400 --> 1:17:30.960
<v Speaker 2>will say this and your families say this, but they

1:17:31.000 --> 1:17:37.240
<v Speaker 2>don't understand it's so fucking good, you know. But I

1:17:37.280 --> 1:17:39.479
<v Speaker 2>guess you know. Also your friends and your family, they

1:17:40.160 --> 1:17:47.760
<v Speaker 2>have the the the pros and cons you're you when

1:17:47.760 --> 1:17:52.280
<v Speaker 2>it comes to a toxic relationship. The perspective of your

1:17:52.280 --> 1:17:57.040
<v Speaker 2>friends and family have the same exact pros and cons,

1:17:57.760 --> 1:18:03.240
<v Speaker 2>which is that they don't know what you know, or

1:18:03.320 --> 1:18:07.600
<v Speaker 2>rather no, not that, rather they don't have your perspective,

1:18:08.479 --> 1:18:12.200
<v Speaker 2>so they don't see the good things right. But also

1:18:13.080 --> 1:18:15.720
<v Speaker 2>and they don't see the good things right and you

1:18:15.800 --> 1:18:18.880
<v Speaker 2>and you can, you can, you can go there and

1:18:19.000 --> 1:18:21.400
<v Speaker 2>you feel that way and go there and understand. But

1:18:21.479 --> 1:18:27.960
<v Speaker 2>they also aren't so emotionally invested in ships that they're

1:18:28.000 --> 1:18:33.840
<v Speaker 2>completely blind to the jew or to the fucking bad things,

1:18:34.320 --> 1:18:38.320
<v Speaker 2>you know. And also these are people who really know

1:18:38.439 --> 1:18:41.599
<v Speaker 2>you and love you and like care about you, and

1:18:41.640 --> 1:18:45.240
<v Speaker 2>they and also like they're not these these they're also

1:18:45.320 --> 1:18:48.599
<v Speaker 2>always there, you know, your mom and your friends and

1:18:48.640 --> 1:18:52.320
<v Speaker 2>your whatever. Like they're not cutting you off and bringing

1:18:52.360 --> 1:18:55.920
<v Speaker 2>you back, like they're they're there when you need them.

1:18:55.960 --> 1:18:58.439
<v Speaker 2>I assume, I assume you're seem like a guy, you

1:18:58.520 --> 1:19:02.599
<v Speaker 2>got you know, a good solid spar systems. So these

1:19:02.600 --> 1:19:09.720
<v Speaker 2>are people you can trust. I appreciate it in a way.

1:19:09.880 --> 1:19:15.000
<v Speaker 2>These are people that that I think you can trust. Yeah,

1:19:15.960 --> 1:19:19.360
<v Speaker 2>do you how come? How come it sounds like you're

1:19:19.360 --> 1:19:21.200
<v Speaker 2>spending a lot of time alone, are you? Are you

1:19:22.000 --> 1:19:23.400
<v Speaker 2>like getting together with these folks.

1:19:24.960 --> 1:19:25.040
<v Speaker 1>No?

1:19:26.040 --> 1:19:29.519
<v Speaker 4>Actually, my main friend group kind of cut me off

1:19:29.640 --> 1:19:32.880
<v Speaker 4>because I had to keep canceling plans because of my

1:19:32.960 --> 1:19:38.240
<v Speaker 4>wife and then my family. Well, they're busy with other

1:19:38.320 --> 1:19:39.120
<v Speaker 4>things right now.

1:19:39.280 --> 1:19:39.479
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1:19:39.560 --> 1:19:41.519
<v Speaker 4>I try to get them to spend time with me

1:19:41.560 --> 1:19:46.080
<v Speaker 4>and stuff, but they're often like my dad, he works

1:19:46.120 --> 1:19:49.120
<v Speaker 4>from I think it's like he gets up at one

1:19:49.160 --> 1:19:51.679
<v Speaker 4>am and then he doesn't go home until like six

1:19:51.720 --> 1:19:55.479
<v Speaker 4>to seven pm. You know, my mom's because he went

1:19:55.640 --> 1:20:01.040
<v Speaker 4>taking care of my nieces and nephews. So it's kind

1:20:01.040 --> 1:20:04.880
<v Speaker 4>of been a struggle there. I don't have transportation. My

1:20:04.920 --> 1:20:08.519
<v Speaker 4>wife took the car, so it's kind of been a

1:20:08.560 --> 1:20:10.720
<v Speaker 4>struggle kind of being at the house alone with all

1:20:10.760 --> 1:20:14.160
<v Speaker 4>the cats and everything. But h I appreciate it. I

1:20:14.280 --> 1:20:17.800
<v Speaker 4>just I really reached out, really needed someone to talk to,

1:20:19.080 --> 1:20:22.880
<v Speaker 4>and I've tried the crisis lines and stuff, and unfortunately

1:20:22.920 --> 1:20:25.200
<v Speaker 4>they don't really want to sit there and talk with you,

1:20:25.200 --> 1:20:27.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, they just want to like get you somewhere.

1:20:28.200 --> 1:20:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Mmm, you say your friend, You said your friend's cut

1:20:31.200 --> 1:20:33.840
<v Speaker 2>you off. Okay, so your friend, so let me see

1:20:33.840 --> 1:20:35.479
<v Speaker 2>your friends cut you off because they were like, we

1:20:35.479 --> 1:20:37.320
<v Speaker 2>don't want to deal with the things going on with

1:20:37.360 --> 1:20:41.360
<v Speaker 2>your wife and shit. And then now that she's gone again,

1:20:42.479 --> 1:20:47.519
<v Speaker 2>are they are they? Because I like, because I assume

1:20:47.600 --> 1:20:51.080
<v Speaker 2>this has happened before where you're like, she's gone and

1:20:51.120 --> 1:20:53.439
<v Speaker 2>then you come back and then now is it like

1:20:53.479 --> 1:20:55.920
<v Speaker 2>a do they view you as like a boy that

1:20:56.000 --> 1:20:57.280
<v Speaker 2>cried wolf kind of a thing?

1:20:58.320 --> 1:21:01.160
<v Speaker 4>Exactly? And there's really no I can do about that,

1:21:01.280 --> 1:21:04.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, like if my wife wants to be with

1:21:04.120 --> 1:21:08.320
<v Speaker 4>me often, if not, I understand, you know. But my

1:21:08.360 --> 1:21:11.760
<v Speaker 4>friends see it a different way. They're like, well, we're

1:21:11.840 --> 1:21:14.519
<v Speaker 4>kind of tired of dealing with this and you're not

1:21:14.640 --> 1:21:17.280
<v Speaker 4>dealing with it, so we just don't want anything to

1:21:17.320 --> 1:21:22.000
<v Speaker 4>do with you anymore. Which I can't blame them, you know,

1:21:22.080 --> 1:21:23.720
<v Speaker 4>if I had a friend that I kept trying to

1:21:23.760 --> 1:21:26.599
<v Speaker 4>help and they wouldn't help themselves either, Like it makes sense.

1:21:26.680 --> 1:21:29.519
<v Speaker 4>But again, like you said, they don't see the same

1:21:29.600 --> 1:21:31.559
<v Speaker 4>perspective that I have.

1:21:31.760 --> 1:21:36.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, they don't. But you got to remember the

1:21:36.600 --> 1:21:38.479
<v Speaker 2>other You gotta remember the other side of that coin.

1:21:39.439 --> 1:21:42.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, you don't see the perspective that they have. Uh,

1:21:42.400 --> 1:21:43.519
<v Speaker 2>by the way, I do think it's I do think

1:21:43.520 --> 1:21:45.160
<v Speaker 2>it's I do. I do think it's fucked up for

1:21:45.240 --> 1:21:48.720
<v Speaker 2>them to completely cut you off. I would a real

1:21:49.200 --> 1:21:51.880
<v Speaker 2>like it's because here's the thing, no matter how real

1:21:51.960 --> 1:21:55.040
<v Speaker 2>your homies are, they're gonna get fucking annoyed if you

1:21:56.520 --> 1:22:02.840
<v Speaker 2>continually like have this back and forth thing. But they're

1:22:02.880 --> 1:22:07.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna get they're they're gonna get annoyed, understandably so. But

1:22:09.320 --> 1:22:11.439
<v Speaker 2>if they are real homies, which they still could be,

1:22:14.000 --> 1:22:17.680
<v Speaker 2>then they may have that christ like you have not

1:22:18.920 --> 1:22:22.759
<v Speaker 2>wandered too far such that you cannot come back home

1:22:23.400 --> 1:22:26.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of a thing. But I think they and that

1:22:26.680 --> 1:22:30.760
<v Speaker 2>might be true with them, but they they're probably like

1:22:31.000 --> 1:22:36.559
<v Speaker 2>they're probably not ready for you to metaphorically come home,

1:22:37.200 --> 1:22:45.799
<v Speaker 2>unless if you're actually ready to come home with which

1:22:46.280 --> 1:22:48.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We've been talking for thirteen minutes, and

1:22:48.240 --> 1:22:53.360
<v Speaker 2>you're a complex human being, so only you can really

1:22:53.400 --> 1:22:56.280
<v Speaker 2>answer that question and go on that journey to decide

1:22:56.320 --> 1:23:00.760
<v Speaker 2>if you actually can come home so speak and not

1:23:00.840 --> 1:23:03.519
<v Speaker 2>be trapped in this crazy cycle. And I don't I

1:23:03.520 --> 1:23:06.240
<v Speaker 2>don't have I don't really have good advice for you

1:23:06.280 --> 1:23:10.200
<v Speaker 2>because I just know it's I empathize with you. It's

1:23:10.280 --> 1:23:12.599
<v Speaker 2>it's a brutal, fucking cycle. Is a reason why people

1:23:12.640 --> 1:23:17.120
<v Speaker 2>get trapped in these things. I don't, I don't, I don't.

1:23:17.720 --> 1:23:20.000
<v Speaker 2>If I'll say, if it makes you feel any better,

1:23:20.080 --> 1:23:24.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're like a loser or naive, or

1:23:24.720 --> 1:23:27.599
<v Speaker 2>that it's you know, your your fault or anything like that.

1:23:27.680 --> 1:23:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I think I think you're trapped in something that's really

1:23:30.080 --> 1:23:34.759
<v Speaker 2>like you know, easy and susceptible to get trapped into.

1:23:35.080 --> 1:23:40.120
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think you should wallow in shame or

1:23:40.160 --> 1:23:42.880
<v Speaker 2>self hatred about it. I think you should have a

1:23:42.880 --> 1:23:49.400
<v Speaker 2>little bit of grace for yourself, but also in having

1:23:49.400 --> 1:23:52.679
<v Speaker 2>grace for yourself, like just recognize what you're in and

1:23:52.840 --> 1:23:57.080
<v Speaker 2>try to not approach it from again. Like I I don't,

1:23:57.080 --> 1:23:59.559
<v Speaker 2>I think you're you kind of are susceptible to a

1:23:59.600 --> 1:24:02.000
<v Speaker 2>thing that it's easy to be susceptible for too. But

1:24:02.560 --> 1:24:10.400
<v Speaker 2>you do have to sort of figure out when you

1:24:10.479 --> 1:24:12.759
<v Speaker 2>want to help yourself, and that that is a journey

1:24:12.760 --> 1:24:15.120
<v Speaker 2>that only you can take. But if if I could

1:24:15.160 --> 1:24:17.960
<v Speaker 2>say anything, is that I don't think you should uh

1:24:18.479 --> 1:24:22.160
<v Speaker 2>go down it from a place of like, uh, hating

1:24:22.160 --> 1:24:27.439
<v Speaker 2>yourself or thinking you're a loser, because you wanted human

1:24:27.560 --> 1:24:32.960
<v Speaker 2>connection and you happened to found find it in a

1:24:32.960 --> 1:24:37.840
<v Speaker 2>an amazing place. It happens to people. And I hope

1:24:37.840 --> 1:24:41.559
<v Speaker 2>you're doing I I I I hope you all right?

1:24:41.600 --> 1:24:46.479
<v Speaker 4>Man, I really appreciate that. Thank you. It's it's been

1:24:46.520 --> 1:24:52.240
<v Speaker 4>really rough, you know. Aside from that, like I've been uh,

1:24:52.960 --> 1:24:55.439
<v Speaker 4>I think five days ago, I stopped snooking pot just

1:24:55.439 --> 1:24:58.240
<v Speaker 4>because I feel like I got too complacent in life

1:24:58.400 --> 1:25:01.799
<v Speaker 4>and I wasn't moving forward anymore. So I stopped smoking pot,

1:25:03.920 --> 1:25:07.160
<v Speaker 4>struggled with a certain addiction for a little while, and

1:25:07.280 --> 1:25:10.080
<v Speaker 4>like I, I completely stopped that cold turkey as well.

1:25:10.160 --> 1:25:12.160
<v Speaker 2>So it's been jacking off.

1:25:13.479 --> 1:25:17.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so you you know.

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<v Speaker 2>You're doing all of this without smoking weed and jacking off?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you're like g I Joe, You're like the

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<v Speaker 2>fun You're like Chuck Norris, Who are this is crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>You're got you're going, oh my god, that's Christ. Have

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<v Speaker 2>a have a mint or something, man, Yeah, go for

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<v Speaker 2>a walk. How do you done't even know? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really. I can't believe you're doing all this

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<v Speaker 2>without jerking off. And smoking weed.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I I respect you, I really do.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks, Lile, I appreciate that, and I you and everyone

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<v Speaker 4>has a great Christmas and everything. You know, it's coming up,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm sure other people are in similar situations, and

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<v Speaker 4>I feel for everyone else as well. I'm very empathetic,

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<v Speaker 4>so I understand it can be rough. So I just

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<v Speaker 4>I feel for everyone in myself, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to say I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your name again, man, My name's Rocky, Rocky,

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<v Speaker 2>Rocky Rocky. I hope, I hope you. I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>find your way back. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, thanks, I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, have a good holiday season and stay strong.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you two take care Rocky all right? Oh that

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<v Speaker 2>was Rocky?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel for Rocky. He's a man. That's crazy. That's like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a lot. Oh, that's a lot. That's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of that's a lot of withdrawal. That's a that's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of withdrawal at once. Truly. I mean, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just by the way, I don't like say I don't

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<v Speaker 2>fucking say ship. I don't mean I try not, I

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<v Speaker 2>really try not to say ship. I don't mean on

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<v Speaker 2>this uh show, And so I really do think, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a crazy amount that it's a crazy amount of

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<v Speaker 2>withdrawal to take, you know, not to be not because

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<v Speaker 2>you're it's like you're trying. You're withdrawing from what the

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<v Speaker 2>oxytocin the addiction of a person and fucking jacking off

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<v Speaker 2>and smoking weed. What's he doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? What's that? What's he doing? I fucking feel for

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<v Speaker 2>that guy. I hope Santa comes down his chimney and

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<v Speaker 2>gives a blowjob or whatever Santa does. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>Santa does that. I do feel for that guy. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he's maybe he's Jewish. Maybe he'll get Hanka, maybe Hanica

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<v Speaker 2>Harry will come down his chimney help him out. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's time for me to stop talking. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's time for me to stop talking and end this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>But I enjoyed doing this. This was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for listening. I'm sorry this episode came out

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<v Speaker 2>really late. It came out really late because I was

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<v Speaker 2>busy editing, finishing up editing the Iraq video. I just oh, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to watch, I just released a video

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<v Speaker 2>of me walking around Bagdad Iraq as a gecko for

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<v Speaker 2>an hour. I'm probably gonna post it on Spotify at

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<v Speaker 2>some point next week, so you'll be able to watch

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<v Speaker 2>it here if you listen to this podcast on Spotify,

1:29:07.240 --> 1:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>but if you don't, you can watch it or if

1:29:10.040 --> 1:29:12.040
<v Speaker 2>you do, or you can also watch it right now

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube dot com slash lyle Forever. Maybe I'll put

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<v Speaker 2>a link in the episode description or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's why this one came out late. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna try not to do that again. I just got

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<v Speaker 2>I was just fucking up for twenty four hours, drinking

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<v Speaker 2>diet mountain dew and typing subtitles like a crazy person.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I still have energy. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>this is gonna this is gonna be a bad crash.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna have what I You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>know how some people like they get they drink a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and they you know how some people fucking like they

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<v Speaker 2>get drunk and then they like black out and then

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<v Speaker 2>they don't remember what they said. That's what I do,

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<v Speaker 2>except I consume a lot of stimulants and coffee and

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<v Speaker 2>then give intense motivational speeches on the internet and then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what the fuck was I talking about. It's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fun. Okay, thank you for listening to this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Get bless you, Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Goes on the line, taking your phone calls.

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<v Speaker 4>Every night, never goes to ride.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just teaching you cloud.

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<v Speaker 1>And the memorial line.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's not really an expert.