WEBVTT -  “I Can Hear My Knees” | Having a Body

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thumbs up from Sophie and her hot hot computer,

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<v Speaker 1>her Jacob Elordy.

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<v Speaker 4>Computer, her jacob Alordi computer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's call your laptop Jacob Alordi because it's so doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Even have to talk.

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<v Speaker 4>Sephanie loves a tall boy, a tall drink of water.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you should have seen me at the US Open.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like shaking, oh my hands in your element.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, we're recording that you can use that, you can

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<v Speaker 1>use it. Here we go, guys, we watched the trailer

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<v Speaker 1>for Wuthering Heights.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to More Better.

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<v Speaker 2>More Better, More.

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<v Speaker 3>Better.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we stop pretending

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<v Speaker 1>how little we know about everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're just trying to get by day.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that our tagline?

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<v Speaker 1>Day? I can't remember? Anyway, How are you doing? I'm great?

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<v Speaker 3>How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not pretend we didn't just record. We also just

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<v Speaker 1>recorded a different episode, guys, so we have been talking

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<v Speaker 1>to each other. Let's discuss what we were just watching,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the Margot Robie, Robbie and Jacoba Loordi trailer

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<v Speaker 1>to Wuthering Heights.

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<v Speaker 4>Robby, I don't actually that trailer made me realize that

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember the storyline to Wavering Heights, or it's

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<v Speaker 4>just so goddamn different that it didn't trigger anything for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's very different.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's an a a loose adaptation.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, a lot, a lot of looseness in that trailer,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of a lot of tightening happening. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's probably gonna be some naughtiness. There were some

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<v Speaker 1>images of eggs, probably to have to do with like

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<v Speaker 1>fertility and Wathering Heights was a good book. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very romantic. That's what I remember. I'm gonna reread it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the trailer for the movie was very

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<v Speaker 1>horny as opposed to a romantic.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm not mad at it. Though they can be both.

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<v Speaker 3>It can be both. Romance can be honey and.

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<v Speaker 1>Vice versa, vice versa, vice versa, which is correct?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know vice versa. I think vice versa. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go see it in Valentine's Day, Honey, I will

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<v Speaker 1>be in line and Opening Night in my bottles.

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<v Speaker 4>Should we make it a girls' night.

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<v Speaker 1>We absolutely should. We have to get we have to

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<v Speaker 1>get all dressed up like it's ren Fair to get

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<v Speaker 1>calls new We have to, we have to know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to. Oh my god, now we have to. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with this idea. Guys, please join us in theaters

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<v Speaker 1>across the country. We're not in this movie. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>in it. We have nothing, we have nothing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>we have nothing to do with it. We're just excited

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<v Speaker 1>for it to come out. And you know, just see

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Lordy not wait Town, put.

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<v Speaker 4>On some ren fair outfits. Oh my gosh, that tall

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<v Speaker 4>drink of water, and be uncomfortable watching erotica in a

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<v Speaker 4>theater full of women.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite place to watch erotica. Guys, we're what

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<v Speaker 1>have you done lately between now and the last time

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<v Speaker 1>we talked?

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<v Speaker 3>It's more better.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, I got a mammogram today.

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<v Speaker 3>What you got a mammogram?

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<v Speaker 4>So I got my I got my titty squeeze. Speaking

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<v Speaker 4>of erotica, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Least, the least erotic thing that you can do, I will.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually I do have a funny I guess funny story.

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<v Speaker 4>It was this is very If you know me, you're

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<v Speaker 4>like of course this happened to you, Melissa Famero. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm wearing this little cute, little cotton T shirt dress, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and I go for my mammogram. And here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think when I first made an appointment, I like

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<v Speaker 4>went between these two places and maybe couldn't get an

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<v Speaker 4>appointment at one and went to another one. And then

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<v Speaker 4>but the one that I couldn't get an appointment with

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<v Speaker 4>set me a reminder like it's time to schedule a mammogram,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, okay. So I walked into this

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<v Speaker 4>place and I was like, this isn't where I went before.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, have I been here before? But

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<v Speaker 4>I've been to that building because it's like a medical building,

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<v Speaker 4>so I was it was all very confusing anyway. So

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<v Speaker 4>she brings me to the dressing room and she's like,

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<v Speaker 4>your gown's in there. Gives me you know, they say

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<v Speaker 4>this like a million times a day, and then my

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<v Speaker 4>appointment like in the afternoon, and so she's going through

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<v Speaker 4>it kind of quickly, and I'm half listening because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in my mind still thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this the place I went to before?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? So then I go in and I look and

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<v Speaker 4>it's not a gown, but a shirt that they give you,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm wearing a dress, so it is a shirt

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<v Speaker 4>that ends at your waist and I'm wearing a dress.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so now I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Not I know what I would do, but I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to hear what you did.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm standing there paralyzed, thinking do I put this

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<v Speaker 4>shirt on and go out in my thong and just

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<v Speaker 4>act like this is normal? Or do I figure out

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<v Speaker 4>how to wrap this dress around my waist. So what

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<v Speaker 4>I end up doing is I the neckline of this

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<v Speaker 4>dress is a little was a little high, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I can squeeze my shoulders and

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<v Speaker 4>arms through this. But I was like, what choice do

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<v Speaker 4>you have, bitch, because how are you going to tie

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<v Speaker 4>this leaveless T shirt dress around your waist? Like that

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<v Speaker 4>makes no sense, and also you can't walk out into

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<v Speaker 4>the hallway with your ass out that also seems crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>So I stretched the neck and squeezed my arms through

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<v Speaker 4>it and left it around my waist.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a little skirt.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, like a little skirt. But while all this was happening,

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<v Speaker 4>the woman was like Melissa. I was like, oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>one minute, because I'm taking far longer than all the

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<v Speaker 4>other women take to just take off a goddamn shirt

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<v Speaker 4>and put on that god wrap shirt thing that they

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<v Speaker 4>give you that you end up taking off in the

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<v Speaker 4>room anyway, Right, Yeah, So that's that's what I did.

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<v Speaker 4>So then I left thinking, how do I remind myself

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<v Speaker 4>next year to not wear a dress, wear pain ladies essay,

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<v Speaker 4>wear pants or shorts or skirt to your mammogram appointment, because.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta.

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<v Speaker 3>When you put well.

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<v Speaker 4>I obviously wasn't thinking about the logistics of the appointment,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think maybe I just thought it was like

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<v Speaker 4>a gown, But then that doesn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I just do you think about it, have asked for

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<v Speaker 1>a gown? You probably could have asked for a gown,

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<v Speaker 1>but you were like.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna make this work. This warning it's.

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<v Speaker 4>When my people pleasing like good, good girl, good student,

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<v Speaker 4>beside of my personality comes out that I think is

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<v Speaker 4>like healed and like gone. And then I'm in a

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<v Speaker 4>doctor's office and they're calling my name and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>god damn it, squeezing the dress down to my waist

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<v Speaker 4>to make this work. I can't ask for anything. I'm up.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm up next the reality busy. You could have been like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I just didn't think I wore a dress.

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<v Speaker 4>I just didn't thank you. I could have.

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<v Speaker 5>It.

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<v Speaker 4>We have down here building them.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure I can.

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<v Speaker 4>So we have little like medical pants for you to

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<v Speaker 4>throw on, like yeah, probably, but Nope. Instead, my anxiety

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<v Speaker 4>just went make it work.

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<v Speaker 3>I've I've left.

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<v Speaker 1>I've definitely been there before where I'm like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>I've worn the wrong thing, you know, or like they'll

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be like, please strip down to your underwear and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what don't wear I need today?

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<v Speaker 4>So so yeah, but I get to know each other

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<v Speaker 4>good real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>I've asked.

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<v Speaker 1>Since then, I've been like sometimes I'm like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any of those paper phons that I could have?

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like sure, I'm glad you wouldn't. Got your

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<v Speaker 3>mamma Grandma.

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<v Speaker 1>That reminds me I needed to get my mammogram and

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<v Speaker 1>a colonoscopy.

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<v Speaker 4>Honey, girls, schedule doctor's appointments? Is that time a year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the colonoscopy. I don't want to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also don't want to have something wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you got to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>No important, I gotta do it it's got I gotta do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do it.

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta do it. You gotta drink the bad drink.

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<v Speaker 3>You've done it.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't done it yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, well full report? Yeah, please all full

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<v Speaker 1>report when I get it. Yeah, I'm I'm probably due

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<v Speaker 1>for that soon this year, next year.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>They've up, they've upped the I used to be forty

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<v Speaker 1>five that you needed to get a cool and mask,

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<v Speaker 1>and now it's forty.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I do need.

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<v Speaker 1>My general practitioner told me so shit, So I got

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<v Speaker 1>a schedule mine.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, more better. Today we're talking about bodies.

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<v Speaker 4>Today's topic is from a listener from Joetta. Let's roll

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<v Speaker 4>the tape as they say.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey guys, my name is Joetta. I absolutely love your podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>To be completely honest, I've never been a podcast person.

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<v Speaker 5>I always feel like it's background noise, I can't pay attention,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's just like a waste of time. But I

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<v Speaker 5>heard about your guys' podcast and I watch Brooklyn nine

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<v Speaker 5>nine on repeat. Absolutely love you guys on the show.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was like, you know what, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>take a chance. So what I would like to be

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<v Speaker 5>more better at is loving my body for the way

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<v Speaker 5>it is. I have gone through a lot of health issues.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been diagnosed with endometriosis and public floor dysfunction, and

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<v Speaker 5>my body's just not the way it was and I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think it ever will be. And it's been really

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<v Speaker 5>hard to accept that and look at myself and love myself.

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<v Speaker 5>And I remember in past episodes you guys were talking

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<v Speaker 5>about that that you get maybe gone through similar things,

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<v Speaker 5>and that like you have your styles tailored to how

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<v Speaker 5>you are and you just don't need those toxic resolutions

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<v Speaker 5>of being weighing less and all this kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just would love some advice or tips and tricks,

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<v Speaker 5>as you guys say, to love my body for how

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<v Speaker 5>it is and accepting it and maybe tailoring my style

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<v Speaker 5>towards it. So any advice would be helpful. I absolutely

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<v Speaker 5>love you guys. Thank you so much for making this podcast,

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<v Speaker 5>and I can't wait to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Iii Ah, She's our little bibe Joeta did the Bie

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<v Speaker 4>Joe up. Thank you for all those nice things you said.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and also, like, as someone his body's changed a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel you, dude, It's so it's like it's so

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<v Speaker 1>weird because you're like you're seventeen, you're like, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it. And then you're seeing me too, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh no, this is it. And then you're

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six and you're like, oh okay, this is it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're thirty and it just keeps happening. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it just keeps happening because your body does keep

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<v Speaker 1>shifting and changing, and it's like it's such a mind fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're here to help you kind of like talk

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<v Speaker 1>at least talk some stuff out, like think it out,

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<v Speaker 1>think it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Think it out. That's what we do here. We think

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<v Speaker 4>things out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we talk about and we think it out.

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<v Speaker 1>It was basically about having a body, right, Like this

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<v Speaker 1>episode is about having a body and having a body,

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<v Speaker 1>what that means to each of us and how we're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like our personal.

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<v Speaker 3>Versions of that. What it is now might.

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<v Speaker 1>Be different than what it is next week, what it

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<v Speaker 1>is in a year. Melissa, talk about your experience with

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<v Speaker 1>having a body.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, Well what you were just what you

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<v Speaker 4>were just saying really struck a chord with me because Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>like I remember, puberty was a really big, huge fast

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<v Speaker 4>change for me. I was like a skiny, skinny, little

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<v Speaker 4>mini thing as a kid, and I was very active

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<v Speaker 4>and I danced, and then puberty hit and I grew

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<v Speaker 4>like four or five inches in a year, like got

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<v Speaker 4>I got hips and boobs and butt so fast that

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<v Speaker 4>I got stretch marks that I still have to this day.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like twelve, and I was like, the

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<v Speaker 4>fuck are these lions on my hips? Like, and I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know how to dress and I felt so self

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<v Speaker 4>conscious and it was just like such a hard and

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<v Speaker 4>fast change. And you know, and then like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>like you go through some teen years and you're like, Okay, no, cool,

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<v Speaker 4>the well, no, teen years were rough. Actually, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think I really started to like appreciate my body to

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<v Speaker 4>like college or like twenties. And then I was like

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<v Speaker 4>in a good stride for a while. And then I

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<v Speaker 4>got pregnant and then that was like that kind of

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<v Speaker 4>felt like puberty again, where it was this really fast,

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<v Speaker 4>dramatic change. And I joke that like I think women

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<v Speaker 4>have there's like a switch that some of us have

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<v Speaker 4>and some don't, where like when you're pregnant, I think

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<v Speaker 4>there's a switch that goes off for some women that

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<v Speaker 4>is like, oh my god, I feel so beautiful and

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<v Speaker 4>powerful and like this is amazing and like how crazy

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<v Speaker 4>is this miracle of life? And then for the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of us, it's like I feel like a fucking science experiment.

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<v Speaker 4>This is such a sham. I didn't know it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be like this. And every time I get used

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<v Speaker 4>to something, something else like dramatically, like you literally you'll

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<v Speaker 4>be like, okay, cool, this is it. I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>maybe cute, pregnant, and then the next day you wake

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<v Speaker 4>up and like five things have changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like your boobs.

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<v Speaker 4>Are like crazy bigger, or like your belly grew or

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<v Speaker 4>you're bastard, or your ankles are swolen like whatever. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like every time I felt like I got used to

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<v Speaker 4>it or like okay, it would all like dramatically change, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and then and then like there's postpartum body, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and then it just feels like this roller coaster of

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<v Speaker 4>like up and down. And then you're like getting older too,

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<v Speaker 4>and things are shifting, and you know, even where you

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<v Speaker 4>gain or lose weight is different, and like I've had

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<v Speaker 4>giant boobs and I've had really small boobs, and like

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I've had giant thighs and like really small.

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<v Speaker 4>I've had a thigh gap and I've had no thigh gap,

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<v Speaker 4>And so it is this constant bombardment, I think, especially

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<v Speaker 4>as a woman, where you're like trying to feel good

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<v Speaker 4>about the body that you have and the things that

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<v Speaker 4>it can do and the things that it has done.

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<v Speaker 4>But it feels like every five to ten years it

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<v Speaker 4>changes so dramatically that like just when you get to

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<v Speaker 4>the point where you're like.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my body, yeah, fucking perimenopause or like what

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or you get pregnant or like.

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<v Speaker 4>Fucking or you get sick, or you get injured, or

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<v Speaker 4>like some fucking shit happens. Yeah, and it's exhausting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, it's exhausting. It's exhausting to sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>the reason it's exhausting is because we're and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just media. Media has a big part in it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like media, yea is a.

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<v Speaker 3>Big part in it.

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<v Speaker 1>But we are measuring like, oh no, like can I

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<v Speaker 1>do this?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I do that? Like is my body? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Like am I still young enough to fall off a

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<v Speaker 1>ladder and not break my pelvis? Am I still you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I still fall? I mean I remember doing this

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<v Speaker 1>play in my twenties where I was playing Juliet and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to fall on my knees on this one

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<v Speaker 1>part in the play and they were like, oh, is

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<v Speaker 1>do you want knee pads for under your costume? And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like no, because I was wearing these like

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<v Speaker 1>skinny leggings with like bell bottoms.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I don't want to ruin the line

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<v Speaker 3>of my costume. Me mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, as a forty four year old, when I go

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<v Speaker 1>up and down the stairs in my house, I can

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<v Speaker 1>hear my knees. I can hear them go crunch, crunch, crunch,

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<v Speaker 1>and like they didn't do that then, but they do

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<v Speaker 1>it now, and it's they do it. It's like you

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<v Speaker 1>just it's this like constant battle of like wait, hold on, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, wait wait. It feels very Yeah, it's exhausting.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be exhausting, it can be exlasting.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say that there is something about getting older

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<v Speaker 4>and kind of giving less fucks that's been nice when

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<v Speaker 4>it comes to my feelings around my body. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think especially I've had this in two waves where

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you and I have talked about uh, severe

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<v Speaker 4>body issues that we've had when we were younger. And

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<v Speaker 4>issues with dysfunctional eating, and that certainly was the case

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<v Speaker 4>for me in high school. And then I had a

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<v Speaker 4>friend who landed in the hospital for anorexia, and that

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<v Speaker 4>was like and it was and I and it was

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<v Speaker 4>it was somebody I deeply cared about. But she was

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<v Speaker 4>a little younger than me, so she was still in

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<v Speaker 4>high school when I went to college. This was when

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<v Speaker 4>I went and I was in college, and so I

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<v Speaker 4>hadn't seen her during the thick of this. So this

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<v Speaker 4>is somebody that we went to dance school to get

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<v Speaker 4>We danced together, and like we were like still kind

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<v Speaker 4>of in touch, but not as much, yeah, because of

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<v Speaker 4>life and school. And I remember I heard that that

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<v Speaker 4>she was very sick and that she had landed in

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<v Speaker 4>the hospital, and then I saw a picture of her,

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<v Speaker 4>and I that shit scared me so deep, my god,

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<v Speaker 4>because this was someone that was so vibrant and strong

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<v Speaker 4>in my mind, not someone I would ever guessed would

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<v Speaker 4>have gone through this. And it just like shook me

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<v Speaker 4>in a way that my brain just went, what are

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<v Speaker 4>you doing? What are you doing? Why are you restricting

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<v Speaker 4>food or trying to control or like why you're young,

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<v Speaker 4>you're healthy, You're at the time, I was dancing like

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<v Speaker 4>twenty hours a week, and I just had this moment

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<v Speaker 4>of appreciation that I could do all of these things

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<v Speaker 4>physically and that at the same time I had been

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<v Speaker 4>making decisions that could potentially lead me down this same

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<v Speaker 4>scary road that she went down and trying to understand

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<v Speaker 4>like why I was doing that and being like fucking stop.

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<v Speaker 4>Life is short, Like you got to stop, You got

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<v Speaker 4>to turn the ship around. Yeah, and I did, but

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<v Speaker 4>it was hard, and it's.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say that I think it speaks

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<v Speaker 1>so like how you how you specifically function as a person,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like.

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<v Speaker 3>You're very tough.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if that's like growing up in

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey or if it's like your parents, or if it's

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<v Speaker 1>your DNA or your genetics, it's just your personality, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're very tough. And like I think it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you saw something and you're like, oh, fuck no, you

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<v Speaker 1>know mm hmm. That is a wake up call to have,

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<v Speaker 1>like a personal friend like struggle with something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's some of us, myself included that, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that I would have had the same reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like I think that's very a mature place

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<v Speaker 1>of thinking about like, oh my god, I might not

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do the things that I love to

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<v Speaker 1>do because I could restrict myself so much that I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have the energy or the strength or like the

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<v Speaker 1>wherewithal yeah to do these things that I love.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. The problem I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think sometimes with at least with eating disorder stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>like it becomes the sole focus, Like the everything else

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<v Speaker 1>falls away, you know, and like it doesn't really matter

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<v Speaker 1>if you can dance or move or lift or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>because you look thin, you know. Right, It's like the

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<v Speaker 1>image becomes everything and the control around the image becomes

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at least for me, the control was really

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<v Speaker 1>where it was at everything in my life felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any control. I don't have any control.

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<v Speaker 1>But at least I can have control over this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I don't have control in whether I'm cast.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have control in how people see me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have control it for some people like me, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can be thin, you know, And it was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can control this thing, and like then it starts

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<v Speaker 1>to I mean, at least for me. Again, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>personal These are all personal experiences, but like for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like that was the thing that was the

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<v Speaker 1>thing I could control. I couldn't control that. The person

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<v Speaker 1>that I was with probably didn't really love me. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't control, you know, like that was was the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I had like real control over and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually a lie. I actually had quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of control in my life. I had a lot of choices, like,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wasn't making them. I was too afraid to

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<v Speaker 1>make them. So instead I was like, I'll just have

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:11.240
<v Speaker 1>popcorn for lunch, you know, yeah, and yeah, and you're

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 1>you're you know, this is a really interesting conversation too

0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 1>right now because a lot of people are using different

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 1>kinds of drugs that help them lose weight, and you know,

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.119
<v Speaker 1>trying not to have judgment around that can be really tricky.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad died from complications around cancer. But one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons that the cancer like affected him so intensely,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the reasons he didn't notice that he

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<v Speaker 1>had the cancer was because he was overweight and diabetic

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and wasn't He had a lot of trouble controlling the diabetes.

0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>He had a lot of like he just had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of roadblocks for himself, and like something like one

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:01.640
<v Speaker 1>of these medications could really helped him have a better

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 1>quality of life. So like, there's that side of these medications, right,

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 1>And the other side of these medications is that a

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are taking them to become the thinnished

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<v Speaker 1>version of themselves. And that's tricky too. It's like, if

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:18.919
<v Speaker 1>you've never been a thin person, what is it like

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 1>to live in a thin body? And how does it feel?

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<v Speaker 1>And like can you become obsessed with that? And like

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<v Speaker 1>when is the obsession kind of like guiding your choices

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<v Speaker 1>in life? And like any like any obsession, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're talking about bodies in general, it's like any obsession.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there was for a while there was that I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember what it's called, but it was like people

0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:44.640
<v Speaker 1>getting obsessed with like health food and like eating super helpfully.

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 3>H articles are sort of saying like, oh, this is.

0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Kind of a new eating disorder, where like oh, I

0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:51.320
<v Speaker 1>don't eat gluten, and I don't eat sugar, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't eat this, and I don't eat that, and I

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:55.919
<v Speaker 1>don't eat but and I don't eat but and I

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 1>have a friend who she's she is my health coach,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's amazing and at the time she was. She

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.679
<v Speaker 1>was like in an organization that was kind of a

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:11.719
<v Speaker 1>churchy vibe but also was very culty, and one of

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the women there accused her of having this disorder and

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>it was devastating to my friend because she was, like

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:22.159
<v Speaker 1>I heard her history was like her dad died of cancer,

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and she was like really trying to make her body

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<v Speaker 1>the most functional and healthy version of herself. And for her,

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>that meant avoiding things that made her feel like crap,

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:39.360
<v Speaker 1>like gluten plugged her up, and like processed sugars made

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 1>her feel crazy inside, and you know, like digesting meat

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't really good for her. And when it stopped feeling

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 1>like for her, when she was like, ooh, I think

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I need extra energy, she added back in like eggs

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 1>and fish.

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 3>It was like it was it was.

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Her finding her way through food and trying to utilize

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 1>it as like food for fun and for function, as

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>opposed to like food to like you know, self soothe

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:10.239
<v Speaker 1>or be a bomb or have control or whatever, and

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 1>so like.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all all of it's like all of it's tricky, right,

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 4>because like all of it's tricky, and like you were

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 4>like like you were kind of saying, like this body

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 4>mind connection, right like is so strong it's hard to navigate.

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 4>It's hard to right like figure out like, yeah, we

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 4>do use food for comfort and that's also okay, you know,

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 4>and it's but it's like when you're doing it too

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 4>much or when you're doing it too little, and like

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:45.160
<v Speaker 4>it's all about finding balance.

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Balance.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry I said it. Everything in moderation like you

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 4>know is also but like kind of true, you know,

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:05.679
<v Speaker 4>it's true. It's like, yeah, I currently I feel like

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.400
<v Speaker 4>in the last few years, I have moved more towards

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:12.359
<v Speaker 4>like you were saying, really focusing on food for like

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 4>functionality and like feeling good and noticing like what doesn't

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 4>make me feel great My beloved red wine that I

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 4>love so much, but also somebody clued me into it

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 4>might be more the cabernet than the pino noir that's

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 4>affecting me. It might be the type of red wines

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 4>that could be. So I'm trying to figure that out

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 4>because I love it so much and I don't want

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 4>to give it up.

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but yeah, like like more you know, food to live,

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:48.439
<v Speaker 4>food to feel good, food to have energy, but also

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.199
<v Speaker 4>going out and enjoying just all of it, like all

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 4>the you know what I mean, and like yeah, and

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 4>having that bit of balance. Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know something that my health coach Jenna says a

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 1>lot is like make the choices and then be okay

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 1>with the choices, right, and like actually be okay with

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the choices. So it's not it doesn't serve me to

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>go like I'm going to eat this fast food thing

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:19.479
<v Speaker 1>and then like beat myself up for three days about

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it and then like retroactively try to that I'm just

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna have juice, you know, or whatever fucking fucked up thing.

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, I have a like slow down, make

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the choice.

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Do I really want that? Yeah?

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I really want that. That's something that I really want.

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Is it gonna make me feel good?

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Might not?

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Might make me feel good in the moment, might feel

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 1>a little bad later. Am I still gonna choose it?

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna eat it, and yeah, I'm gonna I'm

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna deal with, you know, accept whatever that is.

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>So, like this morning, what did I want? I wanted

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>a biscuit. And when I'm on the fucking biscuit.

0:28:57.680 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 4>Fucking love biscuits, man.

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Butter and Jammed really wanted and so I got it.

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>And I also knew, like how am I going to

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>feel after that biscuit, that big, old, greasy ass biscuit,

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Probably a little slow and like, but I you know,

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted it. I was just like I really

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>want this biscuit right now.

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you're so right.

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 4>There's like more conscious decision making around food choices.

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Or do I want to eat this biscuit that is

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>as big as my face?

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 3>Yes? I do.

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>How am I going to be conscious about this?

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>And that's time too. And it's also like accepting this.

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>This is the thing that I think nobody at least

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>not in my family. It was in my family it

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, you better finish the food on your plate.

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>You cannot leave this table until you finish that food

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>on your plate. You cannot waste. You cannot waste. And

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>that was partially because we were we didn't have a

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of money, and so like, yeah, it was not

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:02.480
<v Speaker 1>there wasn't any There's so many fucked up things that

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>like they didn't know, like my mom and dad didn't

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>know that by making me finish my plate that like

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna have years and years of feeling like,

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I feel crazy by throwing this food away,

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I have to yeah on my plate, right yeah, but

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>ultimately that's what I still hate throwing food out. I

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>get a little I feel, I feel my stress level

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>rise a little bit when I'm like throwing food away

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>that's left over. How's your relationship with or how have

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you processed just your body being different, because like our

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>bodies just like like you and me, like our bodies

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>right now are different than when we first met. It's

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>boo boo bits. So I'll tell you that much. I don't.

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>There's some things and I'm like, absolutely not. This fucking sucks.

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like same yeah.

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Let me give you two examples after I had ros.

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 1>The short story is, the short version of the story

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>is there's a there's a chemical that gets released in

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>your body when you're pregnant called relaxing that helps your

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>bones kind of jelly up a little bit so that

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>the kids fit inside your body and so they come out,

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>squeeze that baby out. And what it also can do

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>is it can make things kind of move around, bones

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of stretch.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, bone like yeah, like and shit widends literally you.

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 3>Can google this.

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a scientist, as we've already talked about on

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>this podcast. But my feet changed from a size a

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>solid size eight and a half to a real size

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>nine nine and a half sometimes.

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 3>And that was I cried.

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I had this pair of vintage of velvet Todd Oldham slippers.

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 1>They were so beautiful. I only wore them for special

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>occasions because they hurt.

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 3>And they didn't fit anymore.

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I don't have any shoes from before

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>raz yeah, or two pairs my wedding shoes because I

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>bought them up size half sized bigger because I was like,

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>my feet are probably gonna swell that day. That was

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>hard because I love clothes. The other thing that was

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>hard was a lot of my dresses in the rib

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>cage don't didn't fit in the same way. And still

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.000
<v Speaker 1>things don't fit me in the rib cage the same

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>way because my rib cage expanded about an inch and

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 1>that really it's a lot when you're a clothes.

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 3>Horse like I am. I say, in a sweatshirt yeah.

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 4>But like no, no, but that's so real. Yeah, my feet.

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 4>My feet grew also, not weirdly. They grew when I

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 4>was pregnant with Endzo, but they went back like they

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 4>grew to eight and a half and they went back

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 4>to eight about eight or nine months after I had him,

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 4>Like they went back, I know, they went back, but

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 4>then I know, and then they didn't grow while I

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 4>was pregnant with Axel. But then it was the pandemic

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 4>and my ask wasn't wearing shoes. I was barefoot every

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 4>day and I still had all that relaxed and in

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 4>my body after I had him, and my feet grew

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 4>to eight and a half and they have stayed at

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 4>eight and a half.

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>The pandemic did that to a lot of people. Actually,

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people were sneezing their feet into little

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>shoes and.

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 4>Well, just like walking barefoot all day every day will

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 4>make your foot spread out a little bit.

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 3>It will in a good way, in a good way,

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 3>in a good way.

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 4>But I did have to get rid of so many shoes.

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 3>It's brutal. My mom, I don't know about my mom. I

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 3>hope my mom doesn't listen to this.

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 1>My mom has these little she has feet like me.

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>They're like little like they look like little like a

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>toddler's foot, like very wide, right, uh huh, a wide

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>foot like I can spread my foot pretty wide, which

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess is pretty healthy. But my mom will squeeze

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>her foot and has been squeezing her foot. She's like

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>in her seventies, has been squeezing her feet into shoes

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:58.479
<v Speaker 1>that are half size a full size too small for

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>as long as I can remember. And this bitch's big

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>toenail is like non nonexistent now, Like.

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 4>The other day else was she supposed to squeeze her

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 4>foot into those heels.

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.239
<v Speaker 1>Stephanie the the.

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 4>Big dynail got out of the way on the way

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:19.760
<v Speaker 4>we were at the pool.

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 3>I was like, Mom, what's going on with your toenail?

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 3>She was like, oh, it's fake.

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what, this woman has put an acrylic

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.160
<v Speaker 1>She's had them put in a like a big acrylic

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>thumbnail on her toe. I'm like mom, no, Mom no,

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 1>And like listen, my mom's always trying to get keta deal.

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:40.400
<v Speaker 1>She's like shopping, you know, like in the sale department,

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.879
<v Speaker 1>shopping for things that like she you know, she loves

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 1>these shoes, so she's gonna just jam her a little

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>her little titsieson there. But like, wow, don't What I'm

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>saying to you, dear listeners is don't fucking do this

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>shit to yourselves, buy your shoes the right size, babe.

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 3>It's not worth it.

0:34:55.960 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe seventy asking your asking your fuck and pediatrist to

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>glue a fake toenail on your toe.

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:08.720
<v Speaker 3>It's Melissa, Oh my god, I will.

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I refuse to take a picture of it, but I

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of almost want to.

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 3>You because it is wild. I was like, mom, what's

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 3>going on with your big toe? Wow?

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean listen, part of me respects the hustle, like

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:28.280
<v Speaker 4>part know the dedication. These are these are your feet.

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:30.439
<v Speaker 3>You have to you have to. These are your feet.

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 4>This is your only this is your foot. You're right,

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 4>you only get you only get two feet, girl.

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 3>You know you can't buy another pair.

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 4>Like, yeah, no, you can't put another pair of feet on.

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I have her in Brad is the one. He's like,

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:47.439
<v Speaker 1>we gotta get your mom's hookahs. Like she's like, she's

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>in hopahs now she's like it.

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean, here's the thing.

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Is like, when you're thinking about your body, it's also

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>about like long term right, Like so okay, so this.

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 3>Is the other thing that me.

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got cellulate in places that I'd never had

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it before. And I have cellu light on my abs

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and it fucking sucks because it's.

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 3>Really annoying and.

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't look like it used to look. It

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like it used to look. And then I

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:30.240
<v Speaker 1>took a workout class ri recently and the instructor so ripped,

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 1>so strong and like she also had had a baby,

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.720
<v Speaker 1>and I was looking at her sitting on the bike,

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my god, that's how my

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean like not all the muscle, but like that's

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:43.760
<v Speaker 1>how my skin looks.

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 3>That's how my skin looks, and it's like her.

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:50.360
<v Speaker 1>And it gave me this feeling of like, oh my god, Okay,

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that woman is a fucking badass. Like she's super strong,

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>she's ripped. I would love to be as ripped as

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 1>she is, but i'd have to teach like five class

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 1>a day or whatever the hell else she's doing. Write

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>that part right, But it did make me feel much

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:06.279
<v Speaker 1>more like, Okay, I'm doing all right, Like I don't

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>need to be so like when is this gonna go away?

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 1>It might never go away, like I don't know, like

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.920
<v Speaker 1>it might stick around forever. Maybe there's a treatment I

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>could get. I'm not sure, you know what I do,

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Like the gun, the massage gun, for my body.

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:25.280
<v Speaker 4>Can love love the massage gun Love a massage gun.

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Guys, if you if you haven't ever tried one, please

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>do because get is really one of the best things

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you could spend money on. A great Christmas present honestly,

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 1>like a great Christmas present for like, if you have

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:38.439
<v Speaker 1>a partner that like works out a lot, you could

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>buy them matt Christmas present and just use it yourself.

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 4>Or I'm now like thinking, I'm like, did we send

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:47.360
<v Speaker 4>my parents one? Because we meant to send my parents

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:50.399
<v Speaker 4>one because my mom just got knee surgery a few

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 4>months ago and she's doing great, but she's got these

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 4>spots that are just like tight with like bar tissue

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 4>or whatever. Just it's surgery, you know, and you touched

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 4>on something I think, uh that I wanted to add.

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:05.800
<v Speaker 4>I think is the phase I'm sort of have moved

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 4>into or am moving into when it comes to like

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 4>how I feel about my body is longevity. Ugh, totally yes,

0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:17.120
<v Speaker 4>Like i feel like I've reframed it where I'm like,

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 4>I want to be agile, like in my fucking eighties,

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 4>Like I want to be.

0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 3>I want to live forever. I'm want to learn how

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 3>to fly.

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 4>I want to live forever. I don't want to like

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 4>live with you know, pain every day. Of course, like

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 4>anything could happen, chronic things have I have old injuries

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 4>that I do like if it's humid enough, my knee

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:41.879
<v Speaker 4>will fucking ache, if it's whatever, you know, And that's

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 4>just like I've just had to like get to a

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 4>place where like I accept that and like, you know,

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 4>also like whatever, I broke my knee skiing, like I

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 4>was doing something kind of badass and like it probably

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 4>broke from like years of dance and that was also badass,

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:58.439
<v Speaker 4>So like go me. It's like that's a little pep talk.

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:02.239
<v Speaker 4>I give myself what I'm feeling frustrated about the like

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 4>a dull ache in my knee because I like tore

0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:12.440
<v Speaker 4>all these ligments once. But yeah, it's more like centered

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 4>now on I work out because I have learned that

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 4>I do feel the best and most confident if I

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 4>feel strong regardless of my body size and what my

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 4>body actually looks like. And also I remember, like when

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 4>I oh, I remember when I was pregnant with Enzo,

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 4>being so grateful for having so many years of dance

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 4>build up so much muscle and like muscle memory in

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 4>my body that I really think it was, like why

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 4>my labor was, like there's certain things that I because

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.239
<v Speaker 4>I also had a lot of pain during my pregnancy,

0:39:55.360 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 4>back pain and like whatever, yeah I remember, but I

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 4>remember thinking like oh my God, like thank God, like

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:05.880
<v Speaker 4>my legs are so strong, or like my this is

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 4>so strong because I did this for so many years

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, kind of it's helping me so much,

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 4>like yeah, through this, you know. I kind of hate

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 4>when people are like hot take coming in incoming, hot takee.

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I love a hot take.

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 4>I hate when people are like, I'm just like so

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 4>grateful for my post birden body because it grew my

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 4>child and like yes, yes, of course, no, no, I know.

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:41.399
<v Speaker 6>Can we just be fucking annoyed at how much what

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:45.360
<v Speaker 6>it did I know, and all the fucking damage it

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:48.240
<v Speaker 6>did and just be like this a lot, This a lot,

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 6>It's a lot.

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 4>Okay. Everything is different. Our ribs are wider, our vaginas

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 4>look different, our everything looks different. Okay, it's all me

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 4>Like it's a lot, and it's okay, and I'm gonna

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 4>accept it. But I don't need to like sit and

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 4>seep in gratitude. I love my children. I'm so grateful

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:13.240
<v Speaker 4>that I could grow them, and yes, all that is true,

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 4>and also fuck yeah, the buck just happened.

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:19.799
<v Speaker 3>The buck.

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:22.520
<v Speaker 1>That's the real fuckery. For those of you that are

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>listening to this of having had kids or like can't,

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>don't want to whatever, you still were a kid and

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>somebody made you and it was hard motherfucking work, and

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:38.880
<v Speaker 1>a nobody nobody's supporting that shit. Not in the United States.

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>There's no healthcare, there's no maternity leave, there's no help

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 1>when your kids are little, Like you have to fucking

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 1>do all that shit on your own, and like.

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 4>It sucks, and like I love my children so much

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 4>and I and I look at them and I stare

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 4>at them in like total wonderment and I'm like, oh

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 4>my god. But at the same time, I can't stare

0:41:57.520 --> 0:41:59.720
<v Speaker 4>at my child, and that's a given. That's a given.

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 4>I also at the same time can't stare at my

0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 4>child and be like, yes, I feel okay about everything

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 4>that growing you did to my body, Like I gotta

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 4>find that shit somewhere else. That's that ship I have

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 4>to like make I've had to make peace with in

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 4>like a different part of my brain. Like for me personally, individuals,

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:21.359
<v Speaker 4>you know individually. I have, yes, like I have had

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:23.280
<v Speaker 4>to come at that from a different angle.

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:27.439
<v Speaker 1>It's not a it's it's not a one all, one

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>size fits all thing to be like, uh you know what,

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just so grateful that my body could do it.

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not some So for some people that

0:42:34.440 --> 0:42:37.279
<v Speaker 1>is exactly right and it fits them and great.

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 3>Well for some people it's like uh no, no, me,

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 3>no mea memium.

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 4>I had to go on a journey with this new body,

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 4>like I said, and then that, yeah, brings you back

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 4>to like I think the shift for me was just

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 4>like looking towards the future, like accepting, learning how to

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.399
<v Speaker 4>dress differently, learning how to eat differently, like for this

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 4>new body.

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 4>More actually to get into like some nerd time. Oh yeah,

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 4>she's done this great article that was about body neutrality,

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 4>and it kind of hit for me. I just want

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:25.239
<v Speaker 4>to read a little bit her opening line on what

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:28.360
<v Speaker 4>she's describing what body neutrality is. She talks about like

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:31.359
<v Speaker 4>how we had this big shift towards body positivity and

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 4>like accepting all bodies and like how great that was

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 4>culturally and like as a society, and maybe it went

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 4>like a little bit like, you know, into like toxic

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:41.719
<v Speaker 4>positivity land like.

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:47.240
<v Speaker 1>A little bit maybe I don't know, I mean it all,

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>it all, it all swings, you know, it all swings.

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 4>So body neutrality, on the other hand, takes the pressure

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 4>way off and tends to feel like a much more

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 4>approachable and achievable goal. It offers a safe place to

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 4>rest as you exit body hatred without putting pressure on

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 4>you to somehow magically love every iota of your body

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 4>and self. Body neutrality invites us to understand ourselves and

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 4>others as whole human beings first, and to form our

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 4>concept of worth, value, and identity around a person's internal

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 4>self instead of their external self.

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Beautiful, beautiful, And.

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 4>For example, I wish I was smaller and that's not

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:28.359
<v Speaker 4>a problem. I hate the way my blank looks and

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 4>that makes sense and is okay. I desperately want to

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 4>lose weight and that doesn't mean anything bad about me.

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:37.400
<v Speaker 4>Like having these two things coexists, and I feel like

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 4>that's where I am in my life too, thankfully, where

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:45.280
<v Speaker 4>I've gotten to like accept this like post two children, older,

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 4>post injuries, whatever, whole life right, It's also like the

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:54.799
<v Speaker 4>journey of my whole life. I don't have to like

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 4>love every little bit, but I can still accept it

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:01.840
<v Speaker 4>at the same time, and I can still have goals

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 4>and I can still strive for things I can strive to.

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 4>You know, I want to have a strong body when

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm in my old, old old years. You know, I

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 4>want to still be able to like walk through Europe

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 4>or New York and not like and be okay like

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 4>and pick up my grandkids and like, you know, it's

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 4>it's becoming about and even now, like I have two

0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:25.839
<v Speaker 4>very active little boys, I just don't want to get

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 4>winded when I'm playing with them or running with them,

0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:33.719
<v Speaker 4>like that simple little thing that shift for me when

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm playing with them and I feel strong and I'm

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:39.560
<v Speaker 4>not like a few years ago, I would get winded,

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 4>like severely winded after a few seconds of like kicking

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:45.840
<v Speaker 4>a soccer ball or something.

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, I don't, I am winded and I

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 3>don't now and thank you.

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 4>It was like a lot of hard work to not

0:45:56.840 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 4>to get to this place, so like I can less

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:01.879
<v Speaker 4>like maybe two minutes of kidscraper ball.

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:02.919
<v Speaker 3>No, that's great.

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 4>I think that's a big, big thing. It's reframing it.

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, and I think it's you know, again getting

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:12.840
<v Speaker 4>older and getting better, like giving less bucks and accepting

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:15.399
<v Speaker 4>things and accepting that like I don't know, Yeah, there

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 4>can be parts of my body that I want to

0:46:16.960 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 4>change or improve or that I wish were different, But

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 4>I can be like okay and feel really good about

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 4>myself at the same time.

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think those two things can and should exist together.

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:33.640
<v Speaker 1>It's the obsession with yes, the obsession when you cross

0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 1>into obsessive territory when you're like I'm constantly thinking about

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna eat, yeah I did eat, or when

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to work out, or how much calories is

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 1>in this and that. Like remember, for a long time

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.320
<v Speaker 1>everyone was like, oh, just track your macros or whatever,

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, no, some people can do that shit,

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's cool for them, not for me. The minute

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I start writing down, like what I ate.

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.720
<v Speaker 4>C cock cuckoo, Like, yeah.

0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 1>It gets crazy. I get crazy about it. It doesn't,

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 1>you know. It's like and then that's the thing is

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.240
<v Speaker 1>like experimenting to try to find Yeah.

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 4>I've gone through phases where I can track, and I've

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 4>gone through phases where I track, and the same I

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 4>have the same reaction. I go Nope, We're going to

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.480
<v Speaker 4>abandon this immediately. This is not good for us, and

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:16.680
<v Speaker 4>we're going to find a different way.

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:18.360
<v Speaker 3>We're going to find a different way. It's going to

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 3>be a different way.

0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I like the the other thing that was in the

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Nerd Time this week is it was like slightly touched on,

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>which is functionality based body image, which is like what

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about function how your body can function for you, right,

0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Like that longevity thing is something I think not everybody

0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 1>is thinking about necessarily in their twenties or thirties, but

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.359
<v Speaker 1>as you start to hit your forties, you start going like, right,

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 1>like I can make this.

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:51.399
<v Speaker 3>I have some power here.

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 1>And one of the things I'm doing lately on this

0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 1>on the peloton bike is like I'm trying to do

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 1>longer rides for lone there extent of time, which is

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>like endured. Yeah, it's like endurance and VO two.

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Max and all this stuff that I don't really understand.

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>But the trainer, Matt Whipper's my peloton boyfriend, Oh, he

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:18.239
<v Speaker 1>talks about all the time. He's like, this is how

0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:20.880
<v Speaker 1>you get like stronger over time. This is how like

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you increase longevity VO two max like dips as you

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 1>get older, you're helping to increase it. I'm like, part

0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of doing the workouts is me trying to train my

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>heart and lungs and body to be like, you can

0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:37.080
<v Speaker 1>do this, you can go up a hill, you can

0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:40.960
<v Speaker 1>like you know, I mean, yes, there might be a

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 1>time in the future where I do have to have

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:46.680
<v Speaker 1>help walking and stuff like that, but as long as

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I can, I want to stay in a body that

0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 1>lets me like squat down and talk to ras, tie shoes,

0:48:53.200 --> 0:48:55.359
<v Speaker 1>bend over and pick things up without having to lean

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 1>on stuff. You know, yeah, get up from the floor

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and get back down. It's like stuff that's like super

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 1>simple when you're in your twenties and can get harder

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and harder if you're not taking care of the vessel

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:10.919
<v Speaker 1>that you're in. And it's like when I think about

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<v Speaker 1>my body and like think about, Okay, I can do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Do I still have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Freak out sometimes where I'm like in a picture where

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<v Speaker 1>I don't look like I think I do in my head, yes, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>perc where I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Like oh oh no, oh oh no no a brain

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<v Speaker 4>picture doesn't doesn't make picture.

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<v Speaker 1>But functionality based body image is it can be really yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>healthy because then you're thinking about like what can my

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<v Speaker 1>body do as opposed to just how does my body look?

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<v Speaker 1>And that can be hard to especially like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>coming up against maybe like an illness or chronic pain,

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 1>or something new that you're struggling with, like something like endometriosis,

0:49:57.560 --> 0:49:59.359
<v Speaker 1>which is like, oh shit, my body doesn't do what

0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I doesn't function the way that I wanted to function.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, oh my god, why am I choking? My

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:07.879
<v Speaker 3>body is not functioning? Guys.

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Ah, that's my body telling me I need to drink

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 1>some fun and water.

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<v Speaker 4>Drink some water. But yeah, it's it's also like I

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<v Speaker 4>definitely I mean this not to minimize anything, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>as you were just mentioning, like, there are things that

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<v Speaker 4>are out of your control that make your body like

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<v Speaker 4>really feel out of your control and away from you.

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<v Speaker 4>But in some of my low moments, I've definitely just

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<v Speaker 4>had that feeling of just throwing my hands up and

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<v Speaker 4>going like this is the body I got?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it? I know this one? This is the one, babe.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're just gonna ride this wave. We're gonna ride

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<v Speaker 4>this bad day, and then when we feel a little better,

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:50.480
<v Speaker 4>we're just gonna get back to like, Okay, well, how

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<v Speaker 4>do I just keep this body and it's or close

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<v Speaker 4>to its best potential, right yeah? Or like yeah, take

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<v Speaker 4>care of it or you know, embrace it, embrace it

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<v Speaker 4>and I at least just try. Like yes, it's so

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<v Speaker 4>much about just like getting back up and just trying.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, she did mention something about fashion, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to touch on that really quickly. I do

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<v Speaker 1>think fashion clothes are a way too, really can be

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<v Speaker 1>a way if you enjoy fashion, to be a way

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<v Speaker 1>to like accept where you're at in your body at any.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It can be really tricky too, because, like I was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't fit in stuff that you used to

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<v Speaker 1>love or whatever, that can be jarring. But the quick

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<v Speaker 1>advice that I would say about accepting a new body,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever size it is, is like, try to get yourself

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of pieces, but like, and they don't have

0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to be expensive, but like, try to get yourself a

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<v Speaker 1>couple pieces that you feel good and then fit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>because wasting your time wanting to fit into a size

0:51:56.440 --> 0:52:01.760
<v Speaker 1>that you used to be it's such a fucking waste

0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 1>of time. It's such a waste time. You can save

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>a couple of pairs of jeans, like maybe if you

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 1>want to, like, maybe you'll get in there again. Maybe

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:13.640
<v Speaker 1>you won't, but like having them be like I'm gonna

0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:16.680
<v Speaker 1>fit in this again someday. It's just like a to me,

0:52:17.160 --> 0:52:18.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a waste of time.

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:19.279
<v Speaker 3>It's a waste of time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather go, you know, And again I'm not saying

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 1>it has to be expensive. I'd rather go like thrifting

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:29.839
<v Speaker 1>and find a couple of like pairs of jeans that

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<v Speaker 1>I think are interesting and cool. Like usually I go

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<v Speaker 1>in the men's section. I have a ton of old Levi's,

0:52:35.480 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 1>tons of Oh Hot Tip love an old LEVI love

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 1>a men's baggy jean. It's like cinch the waist. I

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:45.000
<v Speaker 1>love a you know, like a love a men's blazer.

0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:50.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what Joetta's fashion is, but like even like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have a couple of friends whose bodies

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<v Speaker 1>have changed sizes in the last couple of years too,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember shopping with one of them and being like,

0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:00.840
<v Speaker 1>just get yourself like two pairs of jeans and a

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 1>couple of new shirts to mix in with, like some

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.640
<v Speaker 1>sweaters that you know still fit you. And it changed

0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the game for her because she was like, oh, I

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:09.360
<v Speaker 1>feel cute. I don't feel like I'm looking at a

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 1>closet full of clothes where I'm like I don't fit

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:13.880
<v Speaker 1>in anything. I feel like I have a capsule wardrobe,

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:17.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I have like seven things that I'm

0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:19.520
<v Speaker 1>mixing and matching and that all look really cute on me,

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and I feel good about myself, and like that feeling

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:25.000
<v Speaker 1>good about yourself when you walk out the door.

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 3>It's a big thing. It's a big, big, big thing.

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, and that can be it, doesn't you know,

0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to like fit in somebody else's idea

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:35.840
<v Speaker 1>of a capsule wardrobe. I mean thinking about what I

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:39.439
<v Speaker 1>took to New York and I was like, a plaid shirt,

0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:43.880
<v Speaker 1>this blue jacket that I bought, that's like it's in tatters.

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this thing is just like tattered, vintage like

0:53:48.480 --> 0:53:49.800
<v Speaker 1>patches on both elbows.

0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:51.080
<v Speaker 3>It is dastardly.

0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:57.799
<v Speaker 1>A pair of brown khaki shorts, one pair of loafers

0:53:57.840 --> 0:54:02.719
<v Speaker 1>that I loafed all around New York in, and a

0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 1>pair of petal pushers, a little little cropped pant and

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:08.759
<v Speaker 1>three white tank tops that I just like rotated in

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and out.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like we should do an episode unpacking because

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 4>you're really good at it.

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I love I love distilling down a wardrobe.

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:17.240
<v Speaker 3>I love it. It's so fun.

0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 1>And yet my closet is so stuffed that I have

0:54:20.440 --> 0:54:22.080
<v Speaker 1>to like get in there and get rid of stuff.

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:25.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not allowed to buy any more hangers.

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:27.520
<v Speaker 4>That's where we're at.

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's where that's where we've come to.

0:54:30.680 --> 0:54:31.560
<v Speaker 3>That's where we've come to.

0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Also, we've said this in other episodes, but like Find

0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 1>the Styling episode, I can't remember what number that one is,

0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 1>but like, size doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, matters, it

0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:43.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter.

0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:45.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh booboo bits.

0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:49.920
<v Speaker 4>I literally have felt so liberated since that episode and

0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 4>like just buying bigger, buying smaller, it.

0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Just doesn't matter. Just whatever fits bro.

0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:57.360
<v Speaker 4>Just being like, ooh, this this shirt would be like

0:54:57.520 --> 0:55:00.319
<v Speaker 4>really cute over size, I'm gonna buy it in two

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:01.719
<v Speaker 4>sizes over or.

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:03.760
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Like it doesn't matter. We were I was shopping in

0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:11.399
<v Speaker 1>New York. I was shopping and uh, they didn't have

0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:13.879
<v Speaker 1>like a size whatever. I'm not gonna say the size

0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:15.360
<v Speaker 1>so I don't trigger anybody, but they didn't have a

0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:17.239
<v Speaker 1>size whatever in these shorts and I was like, oh,

0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll just take the next size up, and the sales

0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:21.319
<v Speaker 1>girl looked at me like I had grown another head,

0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:22.600
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, I think those are going to

0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:25.280
<v Speaker 1>be too big, and I was like, I'll be the judge.

0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:26.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, like I got for you.

0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:32.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah judge, like yeah, yeah, I saw it.

0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:33.920
<v Speaker 1>And like, maybe I want the shorts to fit kind

0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:35.840
<v Speaker 1>of baggy, And personally I do like my shorts to

0:55:35.840 --> 0:55:37.160
<v Speaker 1>fit kind of baggy, Like.

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:39.560
<v Speaker 4>I like a short short, but I don't like a

0:55:39.600 --> 0:55:40.080
<v Speaker 4>tight waist.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten so many pairs of pants in the last

0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:45.280
<v Speaker 1>two years I've taken to the tailor it's like thirty

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:47.719
<v Speaker 1>bucks to get the elastic.

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:52.000
<v Speaker 3>On the waist changed so they're not tight. Fucking hate it.

0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:53.839
<v Speaker 3>When pants were tight around the waist, I hate it.

0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, unless it's a structured gene. I don't want a

0:55:57.280 --> 0:56:00.440
<v Speaker 1>waistline that is. I mean, I've gone so like I

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:03.239
<v Speaker 1>have tons same pairs of pants that I've changed the

0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:04.759
<v Speaker 1>elastic on the waist because I'm like.

0:56:04.680 --> 0:56:06.480
<v Speaker 3>This is too tight. I don't want. I want like,

0:56:07.239 --> 0:56:09.319
<v Speaker 3>I want us to feel like scrubs, you know.

0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:18.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, hot tips more better.

0:56:19.600 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my takeaway is that I still is an

0:56:23.560 --> 0:56:25.320
<v Speaker 1>evolving relationship with my body.

0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Some days I'm.

0:56:27.920 --> 0:56:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Really best friends with her, and other days like I

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:36.080
<v Speaker 1>just can't even And that's okay, I don't I mean

0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:36.840
<v Speaker 1>at that, Well, that's what.

0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:40.240
<v Speaker 4>I say, same, And I think my takeaway is that that's

0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:42.759
<v Speaker 4>okay and that's normal, and that's probably true for like

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:44.080
<v Speaker 4>every living person.

0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm hm. We hope.

0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 1>What we hope is that we all get to the

0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 1>place of, like, it's more better days than bad days.

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And I think if you're having if you're having

0:56:59.200 --> 0:56:59.840
<v Speaker 4>more bad.

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Days, is then better days about your relationship with your

0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:06.160
<v Speaker 1>body than like I encourage you to start talking to

0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:08.400
<v Speaker 1>somebody about it, whether that's a therapist, whether that's a

0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:11.040
<v Speaker 1>trusted friend, whether that's yeah, you.

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Know, like somebody not AI.

0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:20.880
<v Speaker 1>No, But like, if you're having work more bad days

0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:23.360
<v Speaker 1>than good days about your relationship with your body, then

0:57:23.400 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 1>that's probably a signal to you to like make some

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:29.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of changes. But with that, certainly the signal to me,

0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like this is this isn't sustainable.

0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:34.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna you know, I hate.

0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Living this way where like I'm just thinking about food.

0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:39.360
<v Speaker 3>My world was so small, it.

0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Was such a small world when you're just thinking about

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:44.560
<v Speaker 1>your body and food and like a big world out there. Man,

0:57:44.600 --> 0:57:47.160
<v Speaker 1>there's so much to do and see and like experience.

0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, life is a banquet. Most porcels are starving

0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:53.720
<v Speaker 1>to death.

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<v Speaker 3>That's from Anti Mary. And with that and with that.

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<v Speaker 4>See you next time.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see you guys next week.

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