Speaker 1: Welcome back to Unplugged. Before we get started today, I
Speaker 1: wanted to address something I saw over the weekend. Uh,
Speaker 1: Andrew Schultz is back all over social media with the
Speaker 1: repercussions of what has happened from him talking big shit
Speaker 1: to Kendrick. Obviously, since Kendrick dropped his album A Bar
Speaker 1: and Whacked Out, Marras was talking about white comedians and
Speaker 1: woo woo whoop. Gary Owens tried to jump on that
Speaker 1: wave and said what he said and kind of fell
Speaker 1: to the side. But Andrew Schultz has kind of taken
Speaker 1: this opportunity to grow his his fandom and his his
Speaker 1: following and to me clout Chase and I think since
Speaker 1: the song has dropped or the album has dropped, he's
Speaker 1: been the loudest person in this mix. Outside of Drake's
Speaker 1: allegations to you know, the record company, in the streaming companies,
Speaker 1: Andrew Schultz has been consistently, day in, day out, going
Speaker 1: in and trying to grow from this. And if you
Speaker 1: want to respond, you know to what Kendrick said in
Speaker 1: the song, although he didn't name no names, I don't
Speaker 1: think no one had a problem with that. But obviously
Speaker 1: I feel like you crossed the line when you started
Speaker 1: talking about taking his manhood and just disrespecting him as
Speaker 1: a man. And now you want to cry about the
Speaker 1: reaction that you've been getting from the shit you said.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you expected, bro. You know comedy,
Speaker 1: we can't. Comedy is comedy. You know it's hit or miss.
Speaker 1: And you've definitely found your lane and got some fame
Speaker 1: of late and have really been doing your thing up
Speaker 1: to this point. But you crossed the line, and I
Speaker 1: think that you're finding out what that means now. This
Speaker 1: shit is not a game. You're not really just going
Speaker 1: to go around disrespecting people these days, especially someone to
Speaker 1: his caliber who has the love of the entire West
Speaker 1: Coast by far, but you know a lot of love
Speaker 1: out there in general. So my advice, bros, just fall back,
Speaker 1: leave it alone, let it blow over, because the more
Speaker 1: you talk, the more shit you're gonna get in. I
Speaker 1: wish you and your family peace and happiness, bro, and
Speaker 1: a little safety. I want to welcome back to the
Speaker 1: show someone who's gonna gonna end up being your guys'
Speaker 1: favorite character on this show. The neighborhood.
Speaker 2: What's up? Hey?
Speaker 1: They would say, we got to get you a song.
Speaker 1: We got to get you some kind of some kind
Speaker 1: of song for the neighborhood hater and get that clear.
Speaker 2: Let's get that figured out soon. Though definitely you stepped
Speaker 2: into a space.
Speaker 1: I think the first few times I had you on
Speaker 1: the show, you were a little nervous and you weren't
Speaker 1: really talking your ship like you normally pop your ship.
Speaker 1: But last week you popped your shit a little bit
Speaker 1: and it it it. It got some some energy on
Speaker 1: social media towards me in the comments.
Speaker 2: Man, that wasn't.
Speaker 1: People were mad at me that I listen. I'm just like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the reason why I wanted to do because you talk
Speaker 1: like I mean, I can give both sides. I can
Speaker 1: give a fan side, I can give a business side.
Speaker 1: I can't give a player side. You talk like a
Speaker 1: real sports fan. You're delusional, you're crazy, you're drastic. You
Speaker 1: jump off the de side of the ship every game like.
Speaker 1: But that's how real LA people and LA sports fans
Speaker 1: think and talk, absolutely, and that's why I wanted that
Speaker 1: perspective here.
Speaker 2: Well, you're about to get a lot because we're not
Speaker 2: relevant right now, right in the West, and it's tough.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Lakers in the last you know at
Speaker 1: this point last year twenty five games to they were
Speaker 1: fifteen to ten under Darvingham. This year on the JJ
Speaker 1: twenty four games, they're thirteen and eleven seventh, worst net
Speaker 1: rating in the league bottom five, and defense twenty eighth
Speaker 1: and three point percent twenty ninth and field goal percentage.
Speaker 1: I mean, what are you thinking right now a quarter
Speaker 1: of the way through the season about your team?
Speaker 2: I mean we're having But before you do that, Ray,
Speaker 2: can you come in? Ray? Can you come in in?
Speaker 1: Ray is on cush up duty and he's been an habitual.
Speaker 1: Later and throughout this show, you'll see Ray periodically.
Speaker 2: Jump on camera.
Speaker 1: So Ray, if you don't mind, Jimmy's got the camera,
Speaker 1: you can just do it right there, legs coming into
Speaker 1: the frame because yeah, make sure you get it right, bro,
Speaker 1: or I mean, just turn your electronics off.
Speaker 2: Was on the chair that I said about him.
Speaker 1: So that's that car, that's the instant car.
Speaker 2: But Nate, I'd like to say, I don't think I
Speaker 2: could do five pushups in my current status.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Ray ten. Yeah, to keep your thought though, Gina,
Speaker 1: because we're gonna get right back to you.
Speaker 2: I'm with it, that boy strong, Yes, Jesus, Yeah.
Speaker 1: He ain't really smoking, but we'll give him a pass. Actually,
Speaker 1: can you give me two more because I didn't real
Speaker 1: feel like he was smoking during that time, but I
Speaker 1: don't right, hey, I didn't see no smoke come out
Speaker 1: as the problem my mom. Man, gets your thing together. Bro,
Speaker 1: We'll let you ask on the car because we'll have
Speaker 1: the vacuum up here. So as you get done, there
Speaker 1: you go. Now it's smoking. Just give me two good ones.
Speaker 2: And I know you don't want to fuck them. Kobe's
Speaker 2: up either, they're already getting the fuck. Thank you, right,
Speaker 2: we'll see it in a little bit. Thoughts on your
Speaker 2: team right now again, better out out the gates first
Speaker 2: twenty five last year, two games above five hundred right now?
Speaker 2: I mean, well, first thing is clearly the coach wasn't
Speaker 2: gonna matter whether Man or we have JJ. It is
Speaker 2: what it is on the court with Lebron and Ad
Speaker 2: right now. Secondly, I mean, being from La Man, it's
Speaker 2: tough watching my team fold like this. Like imagine we
Speaker 2: are just coming off a World Series. You think like
Speaker 2: the Lakers would get that championship bug in them.
Speaker 1: The city's actually.
Speaker 2: Going the opposite direction right now. Daily yes, and they're
Speaker 2: mad at me for saying that I want these this
Speaker 2: person traded, that person traded. Well, somebody's got to go somebody.
Speaker 1: I mean where did I mean, as a fan, where
Speaker 1: do you place the blame? I mean, is it, like
Speaker 1: you said, obviously, the coach? It is what it is
Speaker 1: with the coach, the roster? Is it management? Is it
Speaker 1: players having to say and who comes and who doesn't like?
Speaker 1: Where do you feel like the issue with this this
Speaker 1: team is.
Speaker 2: Well, the team is we're not trying to make a move.
Speaker 2: We're not trying to make any immediate moves, and clearly
Speaker 2: we're not winning with this team. Right then, we've established
Speaker 2: that we're not winning with the tea.
Speaker 1: You guys had a pretty pretty dry summer.
Speaker 2: Right so we have to do something to make a
Speaker 2: move too, because we have Lebron next year too. So
Speaker 2: imagine we're going to go.
Speaker 1: On a still has four more years on his deal.
Speaker 2: That hurts you, four more years with a D.
Speaker 1: Bill Klaski came out with the article that that that
Speaker 1: that said a D and Bron both should Broun should
Speaker 1: to ask for trade and the AD should follow suit.
Speaker 1: I mean, is it time with this team? I mean
Speaker 1: La fans are finicky. You guys are used to you know,
Speaker 1: you guys are used to stuff. Is it time to
Speaker 1: press the reset button? Wish Bron? Well, maybe send Bron
Speaker 1: to Golden Steve Bron wants to go to Golden State
Speaker 1: and see what you can get for Ad.
Speaker 2: Let me be honest, like, if they're not going to
Speaker 2: make a move to make our team better right now,
Speaker 2: like in Lebron's this is it. Obviously he's past his prime,
Speaker 2: but Ad is not past his prime. He still in
Speaker 2: his prime. If we're not deciding to make a move
Speaker 2: to do something right now, what are we still holding
Speaker 2: on to Ad and Lebron for? Like really to sell tickets,
Speaker 2: to sell hot dogs?
Speaker 1: Pause? What do you think Braun to the Warriors? What
Speaker 1: do you think of that? So that would probably get
Speaker 1: you back like a kaminga Porzinski, Wiggins some more. Probably
Speaker 1: have to be a third team in there. But you
Speaker 1: can get some young pieces for Broun right now. And
Speaker 1: then my question to you is is Ad a piece
Speaker 1: you can build around? Would you just get Ad out
Speaker 1: too and just press the reset button and start all
Speaker 1: over well, and would you get Polinka out and maybe
Speaker 1: bring in a Bob Meyer like, what would you do
Speaker 1: if it was up to you?
Speaker 2: I mean, to be honest with you. We have an
Speaker 2: old timer running our ball club, right, Lebron is pretty
Speaker 2: much the oldest guy in the NBA. Any normal, any
Speaker 2: normal organization will be looking to make a move to
Speaker 2: better their team for the future. Once Lebron's gone, what
Speaker 2: do we got? We have literally nothing. We don't even
Speaker 2: have any first round picks. So what are we going
Speaker 2: to do for our future? Now you want to talk
Speaker 2: about who's whose problem is it? Or who's responsible for this?
Speaker 2: It's got to be Polinka. But it's Polinka really running
Speaker 2: the show for the Lakers.
Speaker 1: What are you saying?
Speaker 2: What am I saying? Yeah, I'm saying that Lebron James
Speaker 2: is it's name, Rich Rich Paul. I mean that what
Speaker 2: the La streets are saying. Absolutely, we're not saying that.
Speaker 2: We know that. It's very clear what's happening. It's not
Speaker 2: like a secret, you know. So we have to get
Speaker 2: from under that first before we can make any moves.
Speaker 2: Obviously for our Futurelinka have to go. For any other organization,
Speaker 2: wouldn't he be gone already? Possibly, especially for our organization
Speaker 2: that wins like us. This is the fourth coach under
Speaker 2: his reign. Crazy, Why do you think Magic left? Anyway?
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. We'll talk about we'll talk.
Speaker 1: About you think Magic had issues with with Rob?
Speaker 2: Right? Absolutely? What's the meme that they have? All right now?
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be here. I mean he wasn't playing,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And he's not here? So yeah,
Speaker 2: who's running the show over there? We have to get
Speaker 2: that figured out. But if we want to stay relevant,
Speaker 2: we got to do something right.
Speaker 1: Now, quickly and in a hurry. Speaking of right now, Ray,
Speaker 1: can I get fired?
Speaker 2: Good? Lord? Right right?
Speaker 1: Just give me five bro, he'd be doing yoga every morning.
Speaker 1: So Lebron is actually trade eligible come December fifteenth, it's
Speaker 1: been stated he stated, you know, the thanks Ray, the
Speaker 1: warriorsor reached out of the trade deadline last year, obviously
Speaker 1: being a free agent this summer he resigned with the Lakers.
Speaker 1: If Bron is, if this team is floating around five
Speaker 1: hundred come All Star break, do you see him having
Speaker 1: a change of heart? And do you think it would
Speaker 1: be dope? If he went to a Golden State or
Speaker 1: everywhere else could he go? I would love to see
Speaker 1: I just want to see him play with Steph and
Speaker 1: and let those two ride out.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's pretty much the only destination for him
Speaker 2: to go outside of what like Phoenix or somewhere on
Speaker 2: this side, because I can't see him moving back to
Speaker 2: the East Coast or going back to Cleveland or any
Speaker 2: of that crazy stuff. He's la is La now, Let's
Speaker 2: be honest. Living here is different than anywhere else. It's great,
Speaker 2: He's got a couple of cribs here. Yes, So would
Speaker 2: that be the right thing for him to do, especially
Speaker 2: in the twilight of his career? Does he want to
Speaker 2: go win one more? Yeah? Cool? Take off. The Lakers
Speaker 2: are cool with that, Like we're cool with getting rid
Speaker 2: of Lebron right now. But I feel like we're trapped. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we are definitely trapped because we don't just have him
Speaker 2: to deal with We have Lebron James Junior to deal
Speaker 2: with us. They did not like when I said that
Speaker 2: in the comments last time. And it's not about Lebron Junior.
Speaker 2: For me, it's about my Lakers. I don't care about
Speaker 2: the name in the front. It has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with the back of the jersey.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, So, Hey, if they do press the reset button,
Speaker 1: have you seen enough from JJ, I mean a quarter
Speaker 1: of the year. This is a hard time. I came
Speaker 1: out the gates. I know JJ's personality and I thought
Speaker 1: he'd be successful because I feel like he's a leader
Speaker 1: of men. This is just, and I've said this over
Speaker 1: the past few this is just a poorly constructed roster.
Speaker 1: There's not a ton of energy, there's not a ton
Speaker 1: of youth, there's not a ton of defense, and you
Speaker 1: need those things in this younger league. Is JJ the
Speaker 1: coach to lead them if they do press the reset button?
Speaker 1: And is Rob the guy calling the shots that can
Speaker 1: help put this team back in order?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we don't have a lot of footage
Speaker 2: on j We don't have a lot of tape on
Speaker 2: JJ except with the Frisbee league, the flag football that
Speaker 2: he coached before. Like, we don't have a lot of
Speaker 2: tape to watching them. So do we really know they'll do?
Speaker 2: My boy, J I love that. Let me. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't have a problem with JJ, But is he really
Speaker 2: how do we know? Like he's it's a mystery, So
Speaker 2: that Jerry is still out? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Come on, So is the way this team performs? Is
Speaker 1: that how you're going to take it? Obviously? I know
Speaker 1: a lot of fans will take it. The record is
Speaker 1: how good your team is. The record is how good
Speaker 1: your coach is. Is there a chance that he could
Speaker 1: be a good coach with not a very good roster?
Speaker 2: Possibly? Isn't that what we banked Isn't that what we
Speaker 2: banked on by signing him? I'm asking you, do I
Speaker 2: believe he's a great coach. I have no idea if
Speaker 2: he's going to work. It's a mystery. So I'm going
Speaker 2: to learn with everybody else.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Soto switching gears. You had a glimmer of
Speaker 1: hope he might find his way out here. But fifteen years,
Speaker 1: seven sixty five unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Fifteen years. I don't even want to be in a
Speaker 2: marriage for fifteen years, bro So.
Speaker 1: But if you're getting over fifty million a year, you'd
Speaker 1: be a made.
Speaker 2: Yes, we have separate rooms, but I feel what you're saying,
Speaker 2: like years. But he'll probably do eight of that eight years. No,
Speaker 2: I mean he's gonna get all his money.
Speaker 1: Don't get get his money, but he'll probably do eight
Speaker 1: years and then get into something that'll exceed that.
Speaker 2: Well, from what I see from the mess, he might
Speaker 2: be on the trading block by next year. Already they're
Speaker 2: not gonna be a great team next year. I mean,
Speaker 2: we smoked them this year and they're losing their first
Speaker 2: basement probably, Like I think, he definitely was just a
Speaker 2: money graph for him. Are we mad at him for
Speaker 2: taking seven hundred and sixty five? No?
Speaker 1: And he wouldn't give him if you work?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, do I hold on? Let me just finish.
Speaker 2: Do I wish that the Dodgers had him, Absolutely, because
Speaker 2: we'd be the biggest show on Earth. Even though we're
Speaker 2: the biggest show on Earth now, we would definitely be
Speaker 2: the biggest show on Earth.
Speaker 1: What are you guys doing in this off season? Have
Speaker 1: you guys made any moves yet?
Speaker 2: We made a few moves yesterday, Blake teering in. We
Speaker 2: got the guy from the Giants, what's his name? The
Speaker 2: outfitter from the Giants? Yesterday we're trying to resign Taascar? Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: what about the picture? I think we're first in line
Speaker 2: to get him. Man, we don't even have to pay
Speaker 2: him because's under twenty five, Like he's young, so we
Speaker 2: don't even have to give him a big contract. And
Speaker 2: why wouldn't he come to us? We got our tiny
Speaker 2: We got this, We got the other picture coming from
Speaker 2: the same team. Absolutely come jump jump on the wave. Well, Gina, Man,
Speaker 2: I appreciate your time. Thank you for coming over here
Speaker 2: and busting these fans with what they didn't want to hear.
Speaker 2: I feel that, but it's the truth. But do me
Speaker 2: a favor. It's to tect me from them.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: They can't call me a brick ross starter pack and
Speaker 2: I hear that. Okay, I cannot listen to that. Man.
Speaker 2: They're gonna break my heart.
Speaker 1: Man, whoever comes up with the best dish for him,
Speaker 1: I'll pay you one hundred dollars in the cash right
Speaker 1: before Gino gets out of here.
Speaker 2: We need we need five more right, right?
Speaker 1: We need five more right? One?
Speaker 2: Two? Great?
Speaker 1: We can't work through them. Three four? Thank you. Ray.
Speaker 1: Last night, my brother Chris Paul became the second in
Speaker 1: the history of the NBA and assists passing Jason Kidd.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to really take a second and congratulate
Speaker 1: my brother, my former teammate, my friend. Twenty years in
Speaker 1: this game. Man, your longevity, your greatness has been on display,
Speaker 1: from playing against you to having some of the best
Speaker 1: years of my career playing with you. Someone I feel
Speaker 1: who's got a bad rap at times because I don't
Speaker 1: think you understand Chris. Chris sometimes has a problem with
Speaker 1: his delivery, But it's not the message. I think it's
Speaker 1: sometimes it's the delivery. But again, one of the greatest
Speaker 1: competitors I've ever played with, one of the smartest guys
Speaker 1: I've ever played with, and I think one of the
Speaker 1: greatest point guards this game has ever seen. So I
Speaker 1: want to salute you, bro. Continued success, continued health, and man,
Speaker 1: it's been a joy watching you all these years. And
Speaker 1: let's welcome into the show, my guy, Steven Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 1: We got five or five topics we're gonna chop it
Speaker 1: up with. First of all, I just got done given
Speaker 1: our brother CP three his flowers. He passed our other
Speaker 1: brother j Kidd second time all time and assists. Jack
Speaker 1: you played against cp A ton, What was the game
Speaker 1: planning like when you had to go up against cp.
Speaker 2: Don't don't let him go right. That was the only thing.
Speaker 4: You let him go right, you know, just try to
Speaker 4: make a difficult for him. You couldn't stop him. He
Speaker 4: was too smart. I think, you know, just the way
Speaker 4: CP A poached the game.
Speaker 2: He was tough.
Speaker 4: You couldn't punk him, so you know, we was we
Speaker 4: knew he was a dominant right hand guy, and nine
Speaker 4: out of ten times let him go right, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be a crazy assist or a score by him.
Speaker 2: So just try to keep him going left.
Speaker 4: And know you still couldn't stop him, but him being
Speaker 4: where he is now and being second and assist all time,
Speaker 4: he definitely deserves it. He's putting his time in, he's
Speaker 4: he's probably the best player that ever played without a championship,
Speaker 4: if not the best one or two. So you know,
Speaker 4: I'm just happy for him.
Speaker 1: Jackie. You let me right into my next question that
Speaker 1: you and I were going to talk about the best
Speaker 1: player to never win a ring, And I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you a list, and let's maybe do our top fi.
Speaker 1: Let's say top five, So Allen Iverson, Charles Barkley, Carmelo, Anthony,
Speaker 1: Tracy McGrady, Steve Nash, Calll Malone, James Harden up to
Speaker 1: this point in CP three, who.
Speaker 2: Is I can do that?
Speaker 1: Listen, let me hear your top five.
Speaker 2: Number one?
Speaker 1: AI, okay, number.
Speaker 4: Two, I go CP three, I'll go Barkley, Four, I
Speaker 4: would go Trace McGrady, and five I would say, who
Speaker 4: else is left?
Speaker 1: Malone, Carmelo, T Matt. You know James said, you know
Speaker 1: Malone ain't going on my list. Yeah, I'll go James Harden,
Speaker 1: solid list, solid list. Javonte Davis. Do you believe him?
Speaker 1: Is he done next year? He says he's gonna retire
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I do believe in me. I'm buying
Speaker 4: I think so because I understand where he had mentally.
Speaker 4: You know, I've been there in my life, and you
Speaker 4: know sometimes me and you have both been protected and
Speaker 4: providers our families. You know what I'm saying. For for
Speaker 4: a long time, and as a man, you deal with
Speaker 4: a lot of things, even just coming out the house.
Speaker 2: You see people, what's up, bro, I got you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see you a gett broke Like you take
Speaker 4: on so many roads as a man coming out of
Speaker 4: the house along I mean, along with the roads you
Speaker 4: have for your families, being a father, and you know,
Speaker 4: like saying, you put your professionally things. It becomes a lot, bro.
Speaker 4: So you get to a point where you just want
Speaker 4: to be with your family, be around the people that
Speaker 4: really love you, that really that really supports you, that really.
Speaker 2: Depend on you. And get away from it all.
Speaker 4: You know, Tankers made a lot of money this next year,
Speaker 4: he's gonna make the most. You know, if the fights
Speaker 4: line up, how the's poster with s your cour and
Speaker 4: all these other guys. You know, he's gonna ride off
Speaker 4: to the sunset with a win and with a lot
Speaker 4: of money, or with a lost with a lot of money.
Speaker 4: So I understand where he's that. Just getting away from it, man,
Speaker 4: it can weigh weigh on you. And if you've never
Speaker 4: been in that position, if you never been through a lot,
Speaker 4: you know, from like I said, from things you put
Speaker 4: yourself through and other people put you through. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, You'll never understand it. But I see,
Speaker 4: I understand totally. Whereas that it has nothing to do
Speaker 4: with boxing. To whom much is given, much is required
Speaker 4: and changes required. And it takes us understanding that to
Speaker 4: be what he wants to be for his family and
Speaker 4: his kids and the man he wants to be, some
Speaker 4: thing's got to change and let that to letting that
Speaker 4: tough persona go. I understand it because I said that,
Speaker 4: I said that recently. I'm not jumping in front of
Speaker 4: people shit like that. I used to I'm not being
Speaker 4: the guy that's jumping in front of everybody. Shit, I
Speaker 4: don't want to have no conversation with nobody. I want
Speaker 4: to be out the way so I get a way.
Speaker 2: Yet.
Speaker 1: So if this is the case, if he is done
Speaker 1: this year, he obviously has roach in.
Speaker 2: March next year, not this year, next year.
Speaker 1: No, excuse me, excuse me, Yeah, I mean he has
Speaker 1: roach in this upcoming March twenty twenty five. He would
Speaker 1: probably only be able to get one more fight in. Right,
Speaker 1: Who is that one fight you'd want to you'd want
Speaker 1: to see?
Speaker 4: Before he left, he said he said he want to
Speaker 4: fight three times. He said he gonna fight three times.
Speaker 4: But the fight that he has to end with has
Speaker 4: to be Shagul, It has it has to be cool.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, that's that's the only guy I
Speaker 4: really want to see him fight. That's he scour is
Speaker 4: the best around. They've they've had words. I love him
Speaker 4: both as fighters and as a boxing fan. You know,
Speaker 4: I want to see the best fight, the best.
Speaker 1: I get where that that that that mental drain and
Speaker 1: where and taking time away from the family and and
Speaker 1: and if I'm what is he's mid twenties, he's thirty.
Speaker 1: I could see him stepping away for a little bit
Speaker 1: of time, uh and and and and possibly getting that
Speaker 1: hunger back and coming back and you know after a
Speaker 1: year or two years. But you know, I think what
Speaker 1: you hit on is that mental drains a motherfucker, man.
Speaker 1: And and when you feel like you've had enough, you
Speaker 1: you definitely either have to stop or or or or
Speaker 1: step away because if your mind is not all the
Speaker 1: way into any of these top sportsmen, you could tell.
Speaker 4: You gotta remember he missed a year from the sport
Speaker 4: in jail, you know what I mean. So like just
Speaker 4: that whole experience away on a.
Speaker 1: Lot mental health, man. I mean, we just talked to
Speaker 1: Kadi about that the T and T Crew is coming
Speaker 1: to ESPN and twenty twenty five. I guess ESPN said,
Speaker 1: if you you know, if you if you can't beat
Speaker 1: them by them, I'm not even mad at the move.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously, what that T and T Crew has
Speaker 1: meant to the culture of basketball and the culture in
Speaker 1: general has been huge. So what my understanding is it'll
Speaker 1: still be produced by the T and T side or
Speaker 1: the T and T guys. I'm not exactly sure, but
Speaker 1: I think it'll be licensed similar to what Pat McAfee did, Jack,
Speaker 1: what do you think about this new wave of athletes
Speaker 1: and and really the ability to get your whole shit
Speaker 1: together and then start leasing or licensing out to these
Speaker 1: major streamers and networks. I think we've come a long
Speaker 1: way as far as the way sports media is told. Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't don't think about it.
Speaker 4: I think about it all the smoke and uh, definitely
Speaker 4: what we got going on, I don't think about none
Speaker 4: of that ship.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just keeping it funking with you. I
Speaker 2: think about what we.
Speaker 4: Got going on, our family, the people around us, and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, a couple of other shows that a couple
Speaker 4: other shows that I support for the people that we
Speaker 4: walk with. But I don't think about that, bro I
Speaker 4: honestly don't. I think by what we gotta do to
Speaker 4: keep making making away from what we got going on.
Speaker 1: Keep making our dope ship. That's the kind of stuff
Speaker 1: I worry. But I, like you worry about one side,
Speaker 1: I worry about the other.
Speaker 2: You know. I just like my brain will ask, hey,
Speaker 2: don't don't give me no migrant. Don't give me no migrant.
Speaker 2: Have to worry about too much, Broke, you donna live
Speaker 2: keep my ship limited.
Speaker 1: No, I feel you know, I like to just see
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean, I'm more of the
Speaker 1: business side, so I like to see the landscape and
Speaker 1: to see the way things are shifting, and to be
Speaker 1: able to give our company ideas to go out and
Speaker 1: do with the Amazons, and and and and and those
Speaker 1: type of the peacocks, that kind of stuff in the world.
Speaker 1: So I love seeing it, I love learning from it.
Speaker 1: But I feel you it's all the smoke or nothing.
Speaker 1: Steven A reported is about to break the bank anywhere
Speaker 1: from one hundred to one hundred and twenty million. He
Speaker 1: might also be able to do some licensing there. He
Speaker 1: currently has his own show on YouTube. Thoughts on steven A.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's been a roller coaster with y'all too, but
Speaker 1: just the way he's able. I remember steven A coming
Speaker 1: in Man when I got traded to Philly, and when
Speaker 1: he was around AI at the beginning of my career
Speaker 1: and kind of the beginning of his career, and to
Speaker 1: kind of see his journey and the dips and turns
Speaker 1: and lefts and rights has taken. But to be able
Speaker 1: to say that a sports personality is about to make
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty million. I mean, obviously some guys
Speaker 1: have made more, but those are normally former athletes. This guy's,
Speaker 1: you know, a self made personality and he's about to
Speaker 1: sign a check for one hundred and twenty million, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's gonna be a lot more incentives and
Speaker 1: bonuses involved. Do you have any thoughts on that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we disagree on a lot of things,
Speaker 4: but the respects that remains, and I congratulate him for
Speaker 4: even being able to get that money and get your money, bro,
Speaker 4: I ain't never been on hat. Get that money, bro,
Speaker 4: if anybody deserve it from the way he's been self made,
Speaker 4: you know, Steve, and they deserve it.
Speaker 2: You you ain't got to agree with everything he said to.
Speaker 4: Respect them and congratulate him on the success he's had
Speaker 4: all these years.
Speaker 2: So I soluted for it.
Speaker 1: Definitely. Definitely, I'm happy for him too.
Speaker 2: Jack.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to interrupt, but Ray wants to get
Speaker 1: down and give us some cushups, Jim. Can we make
Speaker 1: sure we get the camera on him? Thank you, so
Speaker 1: we can continue our conversation. Yeah, man, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you follow this show, you know, if you disrupt the show,
Speaker 1: in any way, whether it's unplugged or all the smoke.
Speaker 1: And you're not a guest, you got to do cush up.
Speaker 1: But Ray violates every time he comes in the building.
Speaker 1: Ray has eighty in the bank, and I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: about seventy of them bitches during this show. So Ray,
Speaker 1: can we get twenty to start? Can we make sure?
Speaker 1: Can we make sure? Jack Casi?
Speaker 2: Oh, and you gotta do it in your teal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he got the new Kobe that the Kobe
Speaker 1: got bone fits. Don't kick the camera now, right, go ahead?
Speaker 1: He focused? Yeah, one, two, yes, sir, three on a
Speaker 1: fingertips six, seven, hey, nine, nine, it's good for him. Ten,
Speaker 1: come on, Tim more eleven the smoke, Ray, come on,
Speaker 1: I've seen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had smoked before.
Speaker 1: He's just blowing it out. Good word. We don't even
Speaker 1: care about the ash. We'll vacuum that up. Yes, Si, damn.
Speaker 1: That's a good twenty. Hey, Jack, don't worry. He'll he'll
Speaker 1: be back. He'll be back. Good job, Ray, Catch your breath, right,
Speaker 1: he got some more work to do. Catch your breath.
Speaker 1: He loves those things, y'all absolutely love. And that's why
Speaker 1: he's got sixty more. The other day, Rachel got some
Speaker 1: time with Aunt in La and let's take a look
Speaker 1: at that video right now.
Speaker 5: Last time I saw you was the Olympics.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to catch up and see who you
Speaker 2: think on your team you learn from the most, and
Speaker 2: how you're applying it so far this season.
Speaker 5: From the Olympics, I probably say Steph. Yeah, just playing
Speaker 5: without the ball, running around, cutting setting screens, getting guys open,
Speaker 5: just being happy for my teammates. I think Steph did
Speaker 5: that in the whole Olympics, and I definitely try to
Speaker 5: mimic that a little bit. So that's why you're shooting
Speaker 5: forty percent from three. I think that plays a big
Speaker 5: role in it too. Just watching him and trying to
Speaker 5: figure out my mechanics for sure.
Speaker 1: So interesting, Thank you, Rachel. I imagine a young up
Speaker 1: and coming superstar being able to be around the greatest,
Speaker 1: some of the greatest guys I've ever played, but definitely
Speaker 1: you know, the greatest in the game currently, and just
Speaker 1: be able to kind of see these guys work every day.
Speaker 1: I remember my brief time at the end of my
Speaker 1: career at Golden State. It was a joy to watch
Speaker 1: Steph and KD and Clay work after practice, Like I
Speaker 1: was someone and when I went there, all the courts
Speaker 1: are always filled with you know, Iggy and everyone. But
Speaker 1: to see the front court was Kat and Steph and
Speaker 1: sometimes Steve Nash would be in there with them, and
Speaker 1: then Clay on the other side. I'll see Clay knock
Speaker 1: down ninety seven out one hundred fucking threes, and then
Speaker 1: I see Steph and KD doing the one foot balance
Speaker 1: left hand, right hand, just incredible. So I say all
Speaker 1: that to say, you know, for Anthony Edwards, a young
Speaker 1: up and coming superstar, they could still put some of
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff in his game. Jack, was there
Speaker 1: anyone that was instrumental as you were a young guy
Speaker 1: kind of trying to find your footing in this space
Speaker 1: that you could really lean on and took notes from
Speaker 1: and was able to, you know, add some part of
Speaker 1: their game or their mental to your game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, it was Steve Smith. I talk about
Speaker 2: him all the time.
Speaker 4: I mean he gave me a lot of knowledge, you know,
Speaker 4: not only you know, as far as playing wise and
Speaker 4: understanding my shots and how to get shots and how
Speaker 4: to postuff stuff like that, but even when you know,
Speaker 4: I was put in a position where I had to
Speaker 4: replace him in the starting lineup. You know, I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't know how to walk in the locker room
Speaker 4: and say something. So I was taking the spot. But
Speaker 4: he broke that ice. He pulled me each other side
Speaker 4: and was supporting me just like I supported him. So
Speaker 4: I learned the life from State Smiths that was my guy.
Speaker 4: So I understand it.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Steph and the Warriors, uh, the word desperate
Speaker 1: has come out from that side to try to find
Speaker 1: an all star player to run alongside Steph and you know,
Speaker 1: and for the remainder. I mean, I think Steph is
Speaker 1: thirty six, he's still incredible, but they want to try
Speaker 1: to find and put a piece next to him that
Speaker 1: could really, you know, maximize his remaining time. Anybody come
Speaker 1: to mind that could really kind of really say that
Speaker 1: they're contenders.
Speaker 4: Some of the two people that could possibly even go
Speaker 4: there and make them contenders, and they'd be Yannis le Braun.
Speaker 4: I don't see nobody else they can land one of
Speaker 4: them to Yeah they got action, anybody.
Speaker 2: Else they're spinning their wheels.
Speaker 1: I'd I'd love to see uh uh shit, I'm bad.
Speaker 1: I froze for a second. I'd love to see Olympic
Speaker 1: bron with that team, the one where he can just
Speaker 1: kind of run the show and and and make things
Speaker 1: happen out there. So we shall see what happens with that.
Speaker 1: You know obviously that you know Clay's and uh Dallas.
Speaker 1: Now the little back and forth with Draymond came off
Speaker 1: the bench one game and started the next game. They're
Speaker 1: over there trying to kind of figure out anything they
Speaker 1: could possibly do to to maximize us from many times.
Speaker 1: So we'll have to stay tuned with that. Jack, Before
Speaker 1: I get you out of here, if you don't mind,
Speaker 1: I want to call right back to the stage and
Speaker 1: get get some more work. If you don't mind, Jack, Jack,
Speaker 1: if you don't mind, on Gore On, Oh Gord, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you got sixty more, but I'll just give me
Speaker 1: ten hey until Jack, you'll see him later.
Speaker 4: In the till knocked out forty in the till I
Speaker 4: see you, Ray.
Speaker 1: No, it'll be just thirty war does thank you doing ten?
Speaker 2: He creasing the ship out the shoes, damn right, so dedicated.
Speaker 1: Damn it, Ray, damn it right.
Speaker 2: Be careful, just gonna put your ship on vibrate, bro.
Speaker 1: He don't know how to do it. He already, Bro,
Speaker 1: he violated. He had sixty in the bank and violated today. Like,
Speaker 1: how does that happen?
Speaker 2: Jack?
Speaker 1: Think she'd be doing that ship on purpose?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I tell him you just I just tell him your nigga,
Speaker 1: you're the most technologically sound person out here besides gym
Speaker 1: And now that's your excuse me, Jack, appreciate your identity.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, Hey, man, enjoy your time. Had you
Speaker 1: heard your head over the waters?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Clear your mind? Man, enjoy yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like I said, I'm tapping with y'all for
Speaker 4: I'll even get y'all my location everywhere I go because
Speaker 4: I ain't feeling it.
Speaker 1: Might you might need to sign you might have need
Speaker 1: to send a plan for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, come you know the I don't know what
Speaker 4: they say. Come get you boy, Yeah, man, come get
Speaker 4: me something mapping. All right, bro, have fun. I lay
Speaker 4: I lay you out to a hollow child. Now I
Speaker 4: want to welcome in Jordi.
Speaker 1: And one thing I want to do on this unplugged
Speaker 1: show is kind of stay in touch with the younger culture,
Speaker 1: younger generation, uh, with the memes and the tiktoks and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, because I'm building a business
Speaker 1: here and we have to be able to relate to
Speaker 1: different demos. And this person, uh by some has been
Speaker 1: called the NBA edit King of TikTok. Welcome Jeordi. How
Speaker 1: you doing bro?
Speaker 3: I'm doing well, man. I'm excited to be here and
Speaker 3: I'm so grateful to be here with you.
Speaker 1: It's good to have you. Is this your first interview?
Speaker 1: Have you done an interview about your talents on social media?
Speaker 3: This is my first interview, This my first time showing
Speaker 3: my face. So this is a this is a monument
Speaker 3: This is a monumental day for me and I guess
Speaker 3: the brand Jordi.
Speaker 1: So hey, well we're unveiling we'll pull ship back today. Well, man,
Speaker 1: I recently saw your main account got banned but you
Speaker 1: got it back quickly. What does that say about, you know,
Speaker 1: the fan base you've acquired and and and the growth
Speaker 1: of your brand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that really let me know that the
Speaker 3: support was real and the love was real.
Speaker 6: Shout out to Jordie World.
Speaker 3: My account got my first account got banned for reasons
Speaker 3: unknown to this day. But you know, I started a
Speaker 3: new account and in three months is by the hit
Speaker 3: three hundred thousand followers.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's when I actually realized.
Speaker 3: That, you know, the the love is real, and yeah,
Speaker 3: shout out to everyone that that supports me for real.
Speaker 1: That's what's up.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Congratulations, How did you get started? Because if I understand,
Speaker 1: like you have obviously have a regular job, but now
Speaker 1: this is starting to become a real thing. So how
Speaker 1: did you get into this position? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So yeah, I do have a regular job, regular nine
Speaker 3: to five, and it's it's complete opposite of all this,
Speaker 3: you know, content creation and sports content. And I was
Speaker 3: just bored, bored at work, honestly, and you know, I
Speaker 3: was like, you know what, how how can I make
Speaker 3: this more fun? And so I was on Twitter and
Speaker 3: they were posting, you know, these edits of basketball with
Speaker 3: R and B in the back like smooth, And I
Speaker 3: was like, you know what, I love music, I love
Speaker 3: basketball and sports.
Speaker 6: Let me give it a try.
Speaker 3: And I started the TikTok account and I just you know,
Speaker 3: was posting stuff just for fun out of the love.
Speaker 3: And like I was okay with you know, no one watching,
Speaker 3: because I have a passion for music and basketball.
Speaker 6: Like I said, so, I was just know creating.
Speaker 3: And the first week that I started that account, I
Speaker 3: had three videos that tesched a million views, and so
Speaker 3: that's when I was like, all right.
Speaker 1: We might might have I got something here, might have
Speaker 1: something here recently. That's dope. You recently did a collaboration
Speaker 1: with ky Sanat to create a recap video. Obviously, streamers
Speaker 1: are the biggest thing smoking right now. How did that
Speaker 1: opportunity come about?
Speaker 2: And how was that?
Speaker 1: I mean because again, that wasn't necessarily my demo. That's
Speaker 1: my kid's demo. When I saw them talking about it,
Speaker 1: then I saw they had you know that keV and
Speaker 1: Snoop and you know, more people my age on there.
Speaker 1: But he goes crazy, So how did that opportunity come about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, streamers run the internet right now, or
Speaker 3: social media. So he actually reached out to me on
Speaker 3: DM and I thought it was fun. I thought it
Speaker 3: was like a catfish account trying to you know, scam
Speaker 3: me or something. But I went to his profile I
Speaker 3: was actually in and he was actually doing another stream.
Speaker 6: This was a few months ago when.
Speaker 3: He was doing a little basketball association and he's like,
Speaker 3: I would love for you to make the highlights for
Speaker 3: you know, my my basketball games. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: of course, it's just crazy that he reached out to
Speaker 3: me and trusted me to do that. But since then,
Speaker 3: like we've built a good friendship, I would say, and
Speaker 3: you know, it's not just always about business, Like he
Speaker 3: would reach out to me randomly just send me like
Speaker 3: one of my videos and be like, yo, you this fire. So,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm grateful for the opportunity that he gave me,
Speaker 3: and I look forward to, you.
Speaker 6: Know, continuing that that partnership that we have. But it
Speaker 6: was great.
Speaker 3: He's really down to earth, Like he's one of the
Speaker 3: faces of this generation, you know, for social media entertainment,
Speaker 3: but he couldn't be more like real honestly.
Speaker 1: That's dope. That's that's super dope.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: What's your what's your goal? What's your dream in this space?
Speaker 2: Uh? To do?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I started all this for fun, honestly, and I'm
Speaker 3: still doing it for fun a year later, and I
Speaker 3: think this, I'm like living proof that your life can
Speaker 3: change in the year because I'm sitting here with Matt
Speaker 3: Barnes and all the smoke. But I mean, my goal is,
Speaker 3: honestly just to keep having fun with it and just
Speaker 3: keep sharing my passion for music and basketball and sports.
Speaker 6: In general with the world. But I want to I
Speaker 6: want to push the envelope.
Speaker 3: Further than just you know, making videos. I feel like
Speaker 3: I built a name for myself and I feel like
Speaker 3: Jordan can become a brand, and I look forward to,
Speaker 3: you know, twenty twenty five. I want to expand further
Speaker 3: than just making sports at it. I'm still going to
Speaker 3: do it, but you know, I want to do some
Speaker 3: more things, like now that I've show my face, I
Speaker 3: can do real life you know content. More opportunities can
Speaker 3: come my way by doing this. So definitely just want
Speaker 3: to keep expanding, you know, on the brand that is
Speaker 3: that I built with JORDI.
Speaker 1: That's what's up. Man, give me your favorite or maybe
Speaker 1: favorite two edits you've done.
Speaker 3: Favorite two well, just because this is the most popular
Speaker 3: one I did and editor jere McCain when he was
Speaker 3: at Duke and he was singing a song called two
Speaker 3: Days into College and that video got.
Speaker 6: Eighteen million views.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 6: So that's always going to be.
Speaker 3: Near and dear to my heart because that's what really
Speaker 3: kind of put me on the map as far in
Speaker 3: the sports you know, content creation, because from that video
Speaker 3: I went from like seventeen thousand followers to a one
Speaker 3: hundred thousand followers in a few weeks. And so I'll
Speaker 3: say that one and then another one of my favorites,
Speaker 3: I'll say, I'll say all the ones. I met Anthony
Speaker 3: Edwards with the Boss Man Dilo.
Speaker 6: I feel like that's just.
Speaker 3: The way Delos music just matches AND's game and everyone
Speaker 3: loves it.
Speaker 1: And so hey, man, well we appreciate your time. We
Speaker 1: definitely uh want to do some collab work with you, man,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we appreciate what you're doing and
Speaker 1: thank you for giving me a few minutes of your
Speaker 1: time today.
Speaker 6: Bro, I appreciate you having me. Actually have a funny story.
Speaker 1: If I could tell you, Yeah, yeah, what's up.
Speaker 3: So when I was younger in school, there's always this
Speaker 3: rumor that this teacher she was dating Matt Barnes. And
Speaker 3: so we were young, so we had this is like
Speaker 3: a little bit after you played out here in the
Speaker 3: Baby and so this is like, uh, it was like
Speaker 3: a rumor, but we had no way to prove it,
Speaker 3: you know, Like, so everyone said, oh, yeah, she dated
Speaker 3: Matt Barnes.
Speaker 6: Her name is ms Mar.
Speaker 3: And a few years later, uh, a few years later,
Speaker 3: someone from our school had reached out to you on
Speaker 3: Twitter like, hey, do you remember this person?
Speaker 6: Miss Marty said you dated her.
Speaker 3: And then you tweeted back like, no, I have no
Speaker 3: idea who that is.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's crazy. Yeah I don't. I definitely don't recognize
Speaker 1: the name like that. I was, you know, I was.
Speaker 1: I was out there back in the day, so hotelling.
Speaker 1: I was in the streets. That's crazy.
Speaker 6: He stamped in the bay. Nah, that's just a funny story.
Speaker 6: I had to bring it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt, man, I appreciate that. But well, thank
Speaker 1: you for your time today, Jordi man. Best of luck,
Speaker 1: and again, we definitely need to collab moving forward, for sure.
Speaker 6: All the smoke Jordi collab coming.
Speaker 1: Soon, no doubt. Bro, have a good one. Before we
Speaker 1: get out of here, I want to give you guys
Speaker 1: my picks for this week. I was three and one.
Speaker 1: Last week, should have been four and oh the Rams
Speaker 1: got the Bills, But three and one solid this week.
Speaker 1: The Thursday night game last week, I said I was
Speaker 1: gonna have to leave the Niners, but Party came out
Speaker 1: yesterday and showed his ass. So I'm back on the
Speaker 1: bedding side of the team. I'm always fucking with you.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: You guys know that. But Rams at the Niners. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take the Niners minus two and a half, even
Speaker 1: though they just got the Bills. Taking Niners at home
Speaker 1: minus two and a half. Nate shaking his head. He
Speaker 1: doesn't agree with that, but that's okay because he's not
Speaker 1: a Niner fan. Sunday Bills at the Lions. Bills coming
Speaker 1: off a tough loss, can they rebound? Lions have been
Speaker 1: very consistent this year, Some say the favorites coming out
Speaker 1: of the West. I'm gonna take the Lions minus two
Speaker 1: and a half at home. Steelers at Eagles hoo hoo.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a good one. A lot of back
Speaker 1: and forth about the passing game right now of the Eagles,
Speaker 1: AJ Brown having some issues. Teams only throwing the ball
Speaker 1: about twenty times a game, it's hard to get a rhythm.
Speaker 1: But you know who's showing up night in night out,
Speaker 1: that boys, sakwah. So I'm gonna take the Eagles fixing
Speaker 1: up the turmoil in their locker room at home minus
Speaker 1: four and a half versus Steelers, And last but not least,
Speaker 1: the Packers at the Seahawks. I don't know if the
Speaker 1: Packers are for real yet, but I need them to
Speaker 1: be for real this Sunday to beat the Seahawks. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Seahawks. Excuse me, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the Packers minus two and a half in Seattle. That's
Speaker 1: a wrap on this week's show. You guys can tune
Speaker 1: in on all the Smoke Productions YouTube and the Draft
Speaker 1: Kings Network right before we get out of here. Hold on,
Speaker 1: I hope you guys are still watching. Raise got five
Speaker 1: for you, Tim ol Right, thank you, nine eight seven
Speaker 1: six five. We'll see you guys next week. Two one