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Speaker 2: Oh, we're on air. I didn't hear an intro? What's

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday here at Jolette Stadium, and we're back

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Speaker 4: I think we probably should have heard it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, this is going to be a problem.

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Speaker 4: What if we don't even have doubt. We can't.

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Speaker 4: You hear me?

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Speaker 2: All right? So we have a lot to talk about. Walls,

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Speaker 2: fantastic Patriots have been practicing, We've had a game since

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Speaker 2: our last noontime show here. Uh So, like I said,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot to discuss. Uh. Topic number one I

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Speaker 2: would say has to be Drake May.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's any question about it.

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Speaker 2: I think, in my opinion, he's been doing well. I

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Speaker 2: don't think he's been doing well enough to the point

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Speaker 7: Prise us term. If he goes out and lights it up,

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Speaker 7: then maybe we'll have a different conversation. I don't think

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Speaker 7: he's gone out and lived up now. He has definitely played,

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Speaker 2: But I think that the criticism that everybody's had is

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Speaker 2: up with. And I think that's a fair argument. I

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Speaker 2: really do.

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Speaker 4: I do too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what does everyone else think?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been disappointed, but maybe that's selfishly disappointed because

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Speaker 6: I want to see it before they close the doors.

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Speaker 6: So I don't know how much of it is that

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Speaker 6: you know, this would cause a start. If we get

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Speaker 6: out there and practice tomorrow and Drake may is the

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Speaker 6: that's going to be a major story in a major shakeup.

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Speaker 6: So they have three more practices that are open to

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Speaker 6: the media. They have a week next week where they'll

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Speaker 6: probably do some stuff to prep for the Bengals, but

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Speaker 6: aren't going to be full game week yet. Maybe next

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Speaker 6: week is the week behind closed doors that they start

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Speaker 5: And I feel like you can't use the offensive line

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Speaker 5: solely as a crutch. Yes, it needs work, and we've

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Speaker 5: seen them rotating guys in and out throughout practice this

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Speaker 5: can't use it as a crutch. But I would like

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Speaker 2: Is it too late or is there still a chance

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Speaker 2: you know, Drake May has to start Week one.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's too late. I don't think it's

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Speaker 6: I'm not ready to do any victory lapse just yet.

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Speaker 6: Too early for that. We haven't played a regular season

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Speaker 6: Some people are saying he might even need to sit

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, yeah, but that's that's very few and.

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Speaker 6: Far no, no, no, the one year was not few

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Speaker 6: people's right. And we're at the point now where I'll

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 7: He'sature, he's gonna know, but he's gonna play as a rookie.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying that he's gonna it's gonna be an

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Speaker 2: I'm still saying he's going to start against the Bengals.

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Speaker 5: So I think that you can be somewhere in the middle.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that c. J. Stroud is an outlier

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Speaker 5: I also don't think that you need to be Jordan

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Speaker 5: in the middle of that.

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Speaker 2: Great, But if Aaron Rodgers was our quarterback, he would

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Speaker 2: be sitting for two years. That's the point. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the Packers had not the Packers. Yeah, the Packers had

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Speaker 2: was no reason to play Jordan Love. That's a totally

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Speaker 4: Well, that's entirely different. Steve Young wasn't a rookie, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they brought him over from another league.

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Speaker 5: I do like how Jerd Mayo and his team have

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Speaker 5: a plan. They have a developmental plan for Drake May,

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Speaker 7: I don't think he said he knew his starter of

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Speaker 7: July nineteenth is Jacoby Brissett. Yeah, he didn't say.

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Speaker 5: Well now he's not saying now he's saying we don't

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Speaker 7: He knows the starter today. I mean, all you have

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Speaker 5: But I would say that guy hasn't looked that great

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Speaker 4: Not in camp in general.

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Speaker 2: But unless the Patriots start their starters against the Commanders

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Speaker 2: Commanders have their starters out, can the coaches be definitive that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Drake May's ready. Like if he goes out there with

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Speaker 4: What if he just starts?

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Speaker 7: Like you know, Evan, I think made the point about

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Speaker 7: like every single day practice, every single rack, it's been like, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I don't really care about the game. I know, I'm

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Speaker 7: very consistent about this. Preseason games tell me absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 7: But in practice, if he starts, you know, going ahead

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Speaker 7: and say they're thinking long and hard about week one,

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Speaker 7: it could be Drake May. If that doesn't happen in practice,

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Speaker 7: then it's not gonna. I don't think just magically happened

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Speaker 5: I do like how in yesterday's practice though he did

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Speaker 7: From the starting Now I'm wondering what the offensive line is.

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Speaker 7: How much of that is because they want the rookies

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Speaker 6: Starting the starting offensive line is taking snaps from David Andrews.

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Speaker 6: Until he does that in an actual live setting. Now,

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Speaker 6: snaps from David Andrews live in eleven on elevens, he

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Speaker 6: What Jacobyber said, Well, there's some tough games in the

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Speaker 6: Let's see what the offensive line looks like, Let's see

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Speaker 6: what the receivers look like. And then Week five against

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Speaker 2: That's looking like the most likely outcome here, you know,

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Speaker 2: but I'm still holding out hope.

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Speaker 4: If we have a point you started to make, I think.

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Speaker 2: I probably and I just lost train of.

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Speaker 5: Thought, honestly, Like, I feel like he could get those

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Speaker 4: Definitely possible, right, Absolutely a possibility, And.

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Speaker 7: I just want friend, like, at what point where you say, okay,

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Speaker 7: I no longer think it's a possibility.

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Speaker 4: Is if he makes an announcement.

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Speaker 2: Sunday morning at you know o'clock.

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Speaker 4: Because I think that May was going to make an announcement.

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Speaker 2: At some point he said he was okay.

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Speaker 7: I think at some point he's going to say, Jacoby

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Speaker 7: Brissetts our starter week one. And it's not just going

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Speaker 7: to be like once, as Tamara said, once we're no

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Speaker 7: longer allowed.

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Speaker 4: To watch practice. Yeah, they're going to tell you who.

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Speaker 4: I think they're going to to announce it the way

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Speaker 4: everybody else.

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Speaker 2: It's this whole thing of like that Gerard said after

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Speaker 2: the game on Thursday. You know, it's an open competition

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Speaker 2: at all positions, including the quarterback. It's a little bit

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Speaker 2: different a quarterback. This is we're in a holding pattern.

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Speaker 2: It's not a competition. It's we're waiting until Drake May

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Speaker 2: is ready.

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Speaker 4: And that, to me, you better not be.

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Speaker 2: A competition because then you wasted a third round pick.

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Speaker 4: That to me is is the the number three overall pick.

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Speaker 4: You mean, what did I say, third round?

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Speaker 7: I know overall just wanted to I knew what you meant,

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Speaker 7: but that that's to me all this comes down to it.

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Speaker 7: There's a lot of talk about and when I talk

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Speaker 7: about this, it sounds so disrespectful, and I don't mean

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Speaker 7: it to be, but there's a lot of talk about

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Speaker 7: Brissette and how he's sort of he's slipped now. I

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Speaker 7: Jacoby Brissett can go on an NFL field and run

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Speaker 2: Because it can't matter how good or bad Jacoby Brissette is.

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Speaker 7: he looked like Brissett in May. Both were overwhelmed.

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Speaker 2: They could.

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Speaker 4: He couldn't block. But if it wasn't the only thing

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Speaker 7: I think he looked more comfortable in the game because

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Speaker 6: And when he's in the game he can get out

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Speaker 2: Right, I want him that means things are breaking down.

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Speaker 4: You know. I want because I know he can he

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of rhythm, it's easy to drink, it's easy

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Speaker 4: Can you guys hear me now?

445
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you're good? All right, we can hear Matt,

446
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 2: so we can take calls, we can do everything, all right.

447
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Speaker 2: Quarterback situation.

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Speaker 4: So I think we're all in agreement. We're excited about Yeah.

449
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Speaker 2: He's headed in the right direction.

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Speaker 5: Keeping I'm really hoping that if we are watching a

451
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Speaker 5: Sunday eight pm preseason game, then we're going to see

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Speaker 5: a lot of Drake May. Because if we don't see

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Speaker 5: a lot of him, I'm going to be one very

454
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Speaker 5: disappointed to probably very bored. But I think Sunday is

455
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Speaker 5: a great opportunity for him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, hopefully they play a little bit of

457
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Speaker 2: the starters with him.

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Speaker 5: You know, I hope more than a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Because you know, you're going to see Poke and you're

460
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Speaker 2: going to see Baker because they're they're rookies. But I'm

461
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Speaker 2: talking about you know, I think everybody to see the

462
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Speaker 2: starting or we're going to see David Andrews. Are we

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Speaker 2: gonna you know.

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Speaker 6: See, I'm all set David Andrews very important player, like.

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Speaker 4: Anybody else can said.

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Speaker 5: You wanted to see Drake May with David Andrews though,

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Speaker 5: but not in practice. You don't want to see.

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Speaker 6: Him in the game, No, because I don't want David

469
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Speaker 6: Andrews getting hurt in the third preseason game.

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Speaker 7: I was a little surprised they're so willing to play.

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Speaker 7: Like Girod said it again, we should probably let the

472
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Speaker 7: listeners know. Some people don't follow everything he said, like

473
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Speaker 7: he did before the first preseason game, all healthy players

474
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Speaker 7: will play.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like David Andrews, Mike on when who pop Douglass

476
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Speaker 6: from Andre Stevenson, I'll see you in Cincinnati. Like I

477
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Speaker 6: have no desire to see those guys.

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Speaker 4: I would agree with Evan on that I don't.

479
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Speaker 2: But but Gerard is saying all healthy play.

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Speaker 7: Healthy players will play. Now in the first game, a

481
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Speaker 7: lot of those guys ended up playing four plays.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean even last week he said the same thing,

483
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Speaker 6: and Kyle Duggart, Jabriel Peppers, Juwan Bentley, those guys ended

484
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Speaker 6: up playing. Now he said that some of those guys

485
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Speaker 6: have some bumps and bruises.

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Speaker 5: He said some of them earned it too.

487
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Speaker 6: But he said some of them earned it too. I

488
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Speaker 6: just I don't need to see it in the game with.

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Speaker 2: So, you know, this is a little bit of inside

490
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Speaker 2: baseball here. But at some point they want to get

491
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Speaker 2: get prepared for playing a regular game. And I know

492
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Speaker 2: Bill used to always, you know, when we weren't able

493
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Speaker 2: to watch, he bring the players into the stadium and

494
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Speaker 2: they go through that like what's what's halftime, like what's

495
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Speaker 2: you know, just just to get into the rhythm of

496
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Speaker 2: that on the field. But we have a lot of

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Speaker 2: concerts going on, and I know that we've got Kenny

498
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Speaker 2: Chesney and Zach Brown band that ends on Sunday. But

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Speaker 2: now there's two days of where the field's not available

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Speaker 2: after that. I wonder if you know what they're going

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Speaker 2: to do to get prepared.

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Speaker 4: Did say that they have been in the stadium.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, I think you said that about a

504
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Speaker 7: week ago or so.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, but they also had two games. They did play

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Speaker 4: two preseason games. Okay, you know in the stadium. This

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Speaker 4: I think they're they're trying to use as like the

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Speaker 4: first road game, you know, that whole routine.

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Speaker 6: It does sound pretty important to them that it's the

510
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Speaker 6: first road game.

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Speaker 2: And then uh, all those procedures cutdowns are Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, you get the locker room back,

514
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Speaker 2: you know, because right now they have the you know,

515
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Speaker 2: we haven't been in there, but normally during training camp

516
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Speaker 2: they've got all those extra lockers set up down the

517
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Speaker 2: middle of the locker room to accommodate all the extra players.

518
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Speaker 2: You get that cleared out. It's you know, once you

519
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Speaker 2: get your team, you're fifty three plus your practice squad,

520
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Speaker 2: then you know, you want to get start getting ready

521
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Speaker 2: the way you would on game day and during the week.

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Speaker 6: Crowded in there. We've been in there after the game.

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Speaker 5: So after the games, you've been in there.

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Speaker 4: The big blue metal lockers in the middle.

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Speaker 5: No, they're off in the corner. Everyone's in cramped.

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Speaker 6: People have like the little alleyway there. That's like we're

527
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Speaker 6: all like the late round rookies u DFAs, they all

528
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Speaker 6: have split lockers back there. They might be using an

529
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Speaker 6: auxiliary room honestly for some of the other spillover. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's it's it's always a little crowd.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but at some point, like I said, once this

532
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Speaker 2: last preseason games over and they make their cuts, then

533
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Speaker 2: they want to get into their routine.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, awesome move guys like guys that make

535
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Speaker 6: the fifty three man roster will now be moved to

536
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Speaker 6: their position groups and then like guys that are on

537
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Speaker 6: the practice squad will take those lockers in the in

538
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Speaker 6: the corner. So that that always changes too. Like I

539
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Speaker 6: can't think of a rookie off the top of my

540
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Speaker 6: head right now, but a rookie that makes the fifty three,

541
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Speaker 6: that's a let's say he's the defensive back, so he'll

542
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Speaker 6: go move next to John.

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Speaker 2: You have any other concerts after Sunday? Is that? Where's that?

544
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Speaker 2: The last one?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I think we have one in September.

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Speaker 2: I think. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But this is what they were talking about. This is

550
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Speaker 2: why they wanted their own facility, and from what I understand,

551
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Speaker 2: in two years they will they'll have their own facility.

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Speaker 2: So there you go, all right? Eight five five past

553
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Speaker 2: five hundred. Is the ACE ticket hotline, web radio at

554
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Speaker 2: pages dot com. Is the email address? The last concert

555
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Speaker 2: on Sunday?

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Speaker 4: The PLL is in September.

557
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Speaker 2: Okay, well that's that's not a heavy impact like a concert.

558
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Speaker 2: It's amazing what they do at these concerts, how they

559
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Speaker 2: put those stages together.

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Speaker 5: And the Metallica one was insane.

561
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy how they do that in such short order.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the phones the ACE ticket outline.

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Speaker 2: We'll start with Todd, North Carolina. What's up, Todd?

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, I got two related questions and it's just

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Speaker 9: rank it on a scale one to ten. How do

566
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Speaker 9: you feel that Mayo and will prepare for this season

567
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Speaker 9: up to this point? And how do you feel like

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Speaker 9: they prepared for the future, you know, with training judea

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Speaker 9: On and releasing Juju and all.

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Speaker 8: The rest of it.

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Speaker 9: And then I'll take the answer up there.

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Speaker 10: Thanks.

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Speaker 11: I love the show.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, thank you.

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Speaker 2: How have they prepared for the season, and how have

576
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Speaker 2: they prepared for the future. Well, I think number one,

577
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Speaker 2: they drafted Drake May So that's a pretty good future move.

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Speaker 6: Yep, the future seems like it. It's bright.

579
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Speaker 7: Certainly the Judon trade was made for the future. Yeah,

580
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Speaker 7: they get a pick next year.

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Speaker 5: I would say my biggest concern that if I was

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Speaker 5: rating this on a scale of one to ten, I

583
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Speaker 5: would probably be it like a five or six, is

584
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Speaker 5: because of the offensive line, and you really didn't address it.

585
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Speaker 5: And I talked to you about this yesterday, Fred. I

586
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Speaker 5: feel like they took an approach and took the equate

587
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Speaker 5: version of getting an offensive line put together. When I

588
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 5: need you to go out and get like an actual

589
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Speaker 5: luxury offensive line. You need to protect your young quarterback

590
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Speaker 5: after your draft a quarterback, you need to protect him,

591
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Speaker 5: and then also you need to get him some shiny toys.

592
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Speaker 5: Obviously they tried. They tried to go after Ayuk. I

593
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Speaker 5: get it. It didn't work. Out in their favor. But

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Speaker 5: I just it's a five for me at a scale

595
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Speaker 5: at one through ten.

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Speaker 6: Okay, their left tackle situation is a second guess, there's

597
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Speaker 6: no doubt about it. But the way that you get

598
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Speaker 6: players that you're talking about on the offensive line, especially

599
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Speaker 6: at left tackle. It was Drake may Or, it was

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Speaker 6: the left tackle, Like, you weren't gonna get that caliber

601
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Speaker 6: of left tackle on day two of the draft. Now

602
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Speaker 6: maybe you get lucky and Kayden Wallace is that guy

603
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Speaker 6: and you kind of hit on more of a lottery

604
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Speaker 6: ticket type of pick. But it's that's the one thing

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Speaker 6: I'll give the is that getting a left tackle of

606
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Speaker 6: that caliber when you had premium needs at quarterback and

607
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Speaker 6: receiver also all in one off season, something was going

608
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Speaker 6: to have to wait till next off season, right, something

609
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Speaker 6: like something was going to have to weigh.

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Speaker 2: That was that was the argument for trading down, is that, oh,

611
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Speaker 2: you can get all these other things, you know, but listen,

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Speaker 2: I'll give them a six on your scale, a little

613
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Speaker 2: bit higher than you. I think you can second guess

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Speaker 2: the judon timing. You know, Oh, if you had traded

615
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Speaker 2: in it before the draft, maybe you've got more. But

616
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Speaker 2: how many could you really have gotten a second If anything,

617
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Speaker 2: the only difference is you had would have had a

618
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Speaker 2: draft pick you could use this year.

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Speaker 6: That's the bigger thing to me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think if you did it before the draft,

621
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Speaker 7: you could have gotten something to help you this year, absolutely,

622
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Speaker 7: or use that.

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Speaker 6: You know, they were in conversations to trade up back

624
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Speaker 6: into the first round for maybe a tackle or a

625
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Speaker 6: receiver the end of the first round. Now, if you

626
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Speaker 6: have an extra day to pick because of Jude On

627
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Speaker 6: being traded, now you don't feel so bad about parting

628
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Speaker 6: ways with one of those picks.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of people say, oh, they should have

630
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Speaker 2: known that he was never going to play here. I

631
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Speaker 2: think they honestly were holding out hope that maybe he

632
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Speaker 2: would play. And obviously this defense is better with Jude

633
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Speaker 2: on them without it, you know. So like man, if

634
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Speaker 2: he could have played this year, if they could have

635
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Speaker 2: worked something out, I think that would have been good.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a second year.

637
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Speaker 2: And if you don't care about this year, then you're

638
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Speaker 2: happy with the third round.

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Speaker 7: I'm not getting a you know, the tackle situation to

640
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Speaker 7: me as a legit second guest too, because Evan's right,

641
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Speaker 7: you knew going into the draft that you had to

642
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Speaker 7: take the quarterback at three, So that meant to me

643
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Speaker 7: you needed to have more urgency and free agency to

644
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Speaker 7: find a tackle who had left tackle experience, not just

645
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Speaker 7: a tackle like Chokes a Chors four.

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Speaker 4: And it's not his fault that he's only played right tackle,

647
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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 7: I think that they really legitimately felt, and maybe I'm

649
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Speaker 7: reading too much into this, I think they legitimately felt

650
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Speaker 7: that a Corps four and K Wallace, one of those

651
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Speaker 7: two would be able to play left tackle.

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Speaker 4: I think they were hoping that's a miss.

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Speaker 7: That's a miss, Like, I don't know how you can

654
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Speaker 7: go in and assume guys that have only played on

655
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Speaker 7: one side can absolutely make the transition if it happens.

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Speaker 7: It's what Evan says, it's a lottery ticket. If Cayden

657
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Speaker 7: Wallace ends up being a really good left tackle, that's

658
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Speaker 7: a lottery ticket.

659
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Speaker 2: That's to give him a little bit more credit.

660
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: That's good fortune.

661
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 7: And right now it seems like they've already decided that

662
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 7: that's not going to happen this year for either one

663
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 7: of those guys, So that to me is a legit

664
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 7: second guess. I don't know who it was. Maybe Tyron

665
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 7: Smith or Jonah Winz. Maybe those guys had no interest

666
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 7: in signing with you. As far as I know, I

667
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 7: haven't seen any reports to indicate that the Patriots had

668
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 7: any interest in those guys. And I think that's a miss.

669
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 6: Yeah. I think, you know, with Jonah Williams, and you

670
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 6: could make the argument that they did this with Cheops anyway,

671
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 6: so it doesn't really matter. But Jonah Williams at this

672
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 6: stage of his career is a right.

673
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 7: Tackle, sure, but he just there had to be somebody

674
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 7: that's played in the league that's played left tackle. Yeah,

675
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 7: I he decided we're going to take someone who's played

676
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 7: in the league at right tackle and make him a

677
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 7: left tackle.

678
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: But who was that person?

679
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 6: I think the second Guestron Smith are the guy. Yeah,

680
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 6: Tyron Smith is one.

681
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 2: I has he even played yet? I mean, like, I

682
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: know they're managing him.

683
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 7: Heavily, but played like in preseason games now, no one

684
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 7: plays in preseason games.

685
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 6: He's been practicing, I think, but he's been practicing. Yeah,

686
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 6: I mean there's guys available now, you know, listen.

687
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: I love Tyron Smith, but I mean I don't know.

688
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 7: He may not have wanted to sign here. Yeah, Like

689
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 7: I'm not telling you that that's the guy that I

690
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 7: had to like. I'm going to bang the table and say,

691
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 7: you blew it. You didn't get him. I'm saying, there's

692
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 7: somebody who played left tackle that you could have signed,

693
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 7: and they chose to sign the right tack.

694
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 6: There weren't a lot of names Tyron Smith.

695
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 4: There are names that are offensive lineman.

696
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 6: Tyron Smith was the one guy. He was the one

697
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 6: guy that had was a true left tackle with experience

698
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 6: playing left tackle in the NFL. I don't know if

699
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 6: they went after him aggressively. I don't believe they went

700
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 6: after Jonah Williams aggressively. I know, I don't know about

701
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 6: Tyron Smith.

702
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 4: I don't think they were interested in either one.

703
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, to be honest, but why do you think that is?

704
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 4: Because I haven't heard one thing, and I heard a thing.

705
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: If it's true, why do you think they weren't interested.

706
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 6: I think that the price point for the quality of

707
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 6: player that they felt like they.

708
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: Were going to win it.

709
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 6: Smith getting ten, No, well he's getting fifteen. He wasn't

710
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 6: going to come here for that. They were going to

711
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 6: have to pay him real money to come here.

712
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 7: I think he wanted to play with Aaron Rodgers. But yeah,

713
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 7: I think that why what were they you know, why

714
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 7: weren't they interested? I think they legitimately felt like we

715
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 7: we can just make these guys left tackles. And that's

716
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 7: why I think that's a legit second guess.

717
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 4: Okay, so now you have a guy in Vederian Lowe

718
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 4: who you're hoping can make this.

719
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 6: Even more real.

720
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 7: Leap from what we saw last year, and it's evidently

721
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 7: the ability to use his hands that he never had

722
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 7: before is transformed.

723
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: Into the usually a GM does it.

724
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 4: Like I can just tell that, like I know, and

725
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 4: I tell Evan this all the time.

726
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 7: You know, I know nothing, Like it's not my thing,

727
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 7: Like I just know when a guy can't block, when

728
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 7: a guy gets around him, I say he missed his block.

729
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 7: I'm not a big offensive line guru, but I can

730
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 7: tell you my son's played offensive line pretty.

731
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 4: Much his entire football career. And he's a senior in night.

732
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 7: School and he has hit me with his hand in

733
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 7: the chest about nine thousand times, just when I walk by,

734
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 7: he gets.

735
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: Into a step slide and pops me.

736
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 7: Okay, So the fact that an NFL player didn't know

737
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 7: that you could strike someone with a hand.

738
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 4: It's kind of troubling to me.

739
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: He didn't know that.

740
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 7: No, he says he didn't do it because the first

741
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 7: time he's ever been taught. He said that specifically, he said,

742
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 7: I've never had a coach that teaches that taught this strike.

743
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 6: This strike systems.

744
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 4: Like I just can't believe.

745
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: That that's different than using your hand.

746
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 4: It's the hand that's the strike. I know that's what

747
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 4: it is.

748
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 6: But Stop Peters has a system. I mean, we don't

749
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 6: have to go into the minutia of it all.

750
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 7: It's a system, but it's a system of being a

751
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 7: hard ow and push ups on the field.

752
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 6: On Vederian Lowe has eighty eighth percentile arm length. His

753
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 6: arms are thirty five inches long, which is extremely long

754
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 6: for an NFL offensive tackle. So he's got good length

755
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 6: and he has improved in that area of his game.

756
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 6: I think he's more balanced now and he's using his

757
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 6: length better to keep guys at his fingertips. But his

758
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 6: issue to me is that he has these quick losses

759
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 6: where he just loses his technique and loses with less

760
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 6: than two and a half seconds of the ball being snapped.

761
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 6: That you just can't have, like That's how you get

762
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 6: your quarterback killed, right if you give the quarterback, you know,

763
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 6: the sack that they had in the game that everybody's

764
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 6: picking him on him. That took four point two seconds

765
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 6: for Nolan Smith to get off the chip, beat Vederia

766
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 6: and load of the inside and then sack Drake May.

767
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 6: The ball's got to get out, like, you can't hold

768
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 6: the ball for that long in this league. So to me,

769
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 6: I put that sack more on Drake May than I

770
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 6: do on the left tackle. Now, the chip wasn't executed well.

771
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: But I put it on miscommunication. Yes, I don't think

772
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 4: he knew the chip was coming, and that was one

773
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 4: of those things. I think he had him. I think

774
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 4: he was in good position.

775
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then Kevin Harris hit him, sort of knocked

776
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 7: him right off of his set, right, Yeah, And I

777
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 7: don't think that he knew that that chip was coming. Now,

778
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 7: you could argue that it was Low's fault he should

779
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 7: have known the chip was coming, or you could say

780
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 7: Harris wasn't supposed to hit him.

781
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

782
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of those two things is true.

783
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, But it just that those types of plays to me,

784
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 6: are not the concern because if it's a miscommunication on

785
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 6: the chip. They'll get that cleaned up right and they

786
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 6: won't have those issues hopefully moving forward. If Drake may

787
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 6: gets the ball out quicker, then it's a non factor

788
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 6: that they miscommunicated on the chip. So I still feel

789
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 6: like Vederian Lowe has gotten a lot better. Now that

790
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 6: doesn't mean he's Joe Thomas, but he's he has improved

791
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 6: and maybe the strike system.

792
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: Well, Listen, I think a lot of the problems last

793
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 2: year was coaching or lack of and maybe a little

794
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: bit better coaching will help guys like Vederian Lowe. You know,

795
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: I mean, don't don't disregard coaching.

796
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not disregarding coaching.

797
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 6: They have to survive the season at that position, all right.

798
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 2: So let's a talk quarterback. We talked offensive line. The

799
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: other part that's key for this offense is the wide

800
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: receiver room. Shuster's gone, so I think that's additioned by subtraction.

801
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it clears up some of the questions. But

802
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: this little surge I think that Thornton's making does that

803
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 2: kind of muddy the waters for you guys in terms

804
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: of who's gonna make it on this team.

805
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 6: Oh, I had him on anyways, but I was maybe

806
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 6: in a little bit of a minority with that. But

807
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 6: the big reason why I've had him on this whole

808
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 6: time is because in this offense that they want to

809
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 6: run with Van Pel, somebody's got to take the top

810
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 6: off the defense, Like there has to be somebody that

811
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 6: can run down the field and either went on the

812
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 6: go route that we saw and went on yesterday in practice,

813
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 6: or occupy the deep safety or something along those lines.

814
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 6: If you don't have that element in this offense, and

815
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 6: it's really comes apart and nobody on this team, and

816
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 6: I granted I understand that that is an indictment on

817
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 6: the roster at receiver, but nobody on this team is

818
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 6: a better field stretcher than Taekwon Thort.

819
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: So my only want to move fast, draft fast play.

820
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 6: He's the best vertical threat they have.

821
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 5: My only problem with that and needing someone to take

822
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 5: the top off the defense and occupy them. He too

823
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 5: many times has stopped running his routes or he's not

824
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 5: running fast enough full speed he's running, and it's very

825
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 5: obvious that he is the decoy and the ball is

826
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 5: not coming to him. That's my biggest issue with him

827
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 5: and Also, his productivity in practice is not transcending over

828
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 5: the games because he's not staying healthy. So when I

829
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 5: see Taekwon stay healthy and actually producing a game and

830
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 5: actually be that great decoy, then I'm all about.

831
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 4: It, play it very much for this season game. I

832
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 4: hear you, though, I don't need to see what he

833
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 4: can do. I need to play.

834
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I'm know I'm saying when he does play

835
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 5: in games, he's hurt.

836
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: Like Douglas history history.

837
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 7: Is not that great, so I need to If he's

838
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 7: going to get hurt, that's different. But like I think

839
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 7: he's been probably their sacon. I would say Douglas has

840
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 7: been the best receiver, but I think he's been the

841
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 7: second best receiver in he.

842
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 5: Camp, and I hope that translates over into Week one.

843
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: I think Polk has been the second best.

844
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 6: I wouldn't even I'm not ready for that conversation.

845
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even have him. I think in that conversation.

846
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 5: Wide receivers right now, with how bad the tight end

847
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 5: room is and how thin it is, Like, is there

848
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 5: any warrior concern with what's happening with Hunter? Henry Mitchell?

849
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 4: Willcock a great one.

850
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 7: I want to I want to get your guys opinion,

851
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 7: Gerrod Mayo yesterday, So Hunter Henry's been out for a week.

852
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, right.

853
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 4: Uh. Mayo has said.

854
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 7: In the past that it's not considered to be a

855
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 7: long term thing. He kind of indicated on w E

856
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 7: I in his first appearance yesterday in Patriots Monday here.

857
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 4: Locally that he.

858
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 7: How did he put it, He expected him to be

859
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 7: ready for the start of the season, something like that,

860
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 7: and that was kind of a departure to what he's

861
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 7: been talking. So he was asked to follow up yesterday

862
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 7: in a regular before practice, the regular press conference, and

863
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 7: I think Andrew Callian from The Herald asked him, is

864
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 7: his status for the opener in doubt? And he said no,

865
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 7: and then he I wish I had the exact quote

866
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 7: in front of me. He said no, and then he said,

867
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 7: but we'll see, you know, we'll see what you know.

868
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 4: How that works out. If he's ready to go, then

869
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 4: it is in doubt.

870
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: Right. See, this is where Bill was.

871
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 4: Right, like, his status to me for the opener is

872
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 4: in doubt based on that answer.

873
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how you guys, this is where Belichick

874
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: has it right. There's no sense in getting into hypotheticals

875
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: about injuries or what you're thinking. You just don't. You

876
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: have no control over it, So don't wade into those waters.

877
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: You know, I would coach Girod not to do that.

878
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: Just stay away from injury.

879
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 4: And they're a good media coach. Brett I am, Yeah,

880
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 4: maybe what I am today Titans.

881
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 5: The question was Girod going back to the Titans quickly.

882
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 5: You volunteered this this morning that the guy should be

883
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 5: back relatively early in the season. Is Hunter Henry's status

884
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 5: for the opener in doubt? I wouldn't say it's in

885
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 5: doubt right now. We'll have to see. We still have

886
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 5: a lot of time. I think he'll be there, but

887
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 5: once again, when he's ready to play, he'll be out there.

888
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 4: Right So don't you think that that says two different things.

889
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 7: Absolutely absolutely, I don't think it's in doubt, but we'll see.

890
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 4: If he's ready to go, well, then it's in doubt.

891
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: The word think, yeah puts it in doubt, right yeah.

892
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: Right now, you're telling me like he could be there

893
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 4: week four or he could be ready to go week one.

894
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

895
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 6: I doubt has like a negative connotation. So when he

896
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 6: hears a reporter ask him, is his status in doubt.

897
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 6: He's like, well, look, calm down, you know, like it's

898
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 6: like one of those things where it's like it's not

899
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 6: his job, like he doesn't need to do that. You know,

900
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 6: it's to your point, like he doesn't need he doesn't need.

901
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: To do that. He's not obligated to do it. You know. Listen,

902
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: I remember when George Seffert was the head coach of

903
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: the Panthers. He'd literally bring out the team doctor to

904
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: address all these questions. I mean, that's it's a different philosophy, and.

905
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 7: I don't have any problem if you do that, because

906
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 7: it's one message. Andy Reid does it too, but it's

907
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 7: one message. It's here's here's my medical information. This is

908
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 7: what we're going off of. So in other words, you

909
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 7: have the information that I have. I think within a

910
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 7: paragraph he said two different things.

911
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's obligations for reporting injuries, and you should do that.

912
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: You should just do the minimum. Don't get into anything else.

913
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: I think maybe who knows, we'll see they just report

914
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: what you have to report and leave it at that.

915
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 4: But just make it consistent. That's all. That's all.

916
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 2: You have to be consistent.

917
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 7: If you say a guy's going to be able four

918
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 7: to six weeks. You can't the next week say he

919
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 7: might be out for ten or twelve weeks. Like you know,

920
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 7: I don't care if you give us the timetable or not.

921
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 7: Like if you want to give Wes like Bill did,

922
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 7: that's your you know, that's your prerogative.

923
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: Well you can say to six weeks and the next

924
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: week the team doctor comes back he's not progressing the

925
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: way we thought.

926
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 4: And then you say, the team that's what the team

927
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 4: doctor said, no issues.

928
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 2: But but but.

929
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 7: It's it's when you change like within the same answer.

930
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 7: Now I'm getting conflicted, and I think there's been some

931
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 7: examples of that with Gerrod. I think sometimes like we

932
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 7: have a plan with with Drake may right, it's it's

933
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 7: a v P and me.

934
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 4: We have this plan. Well, could he still be the

935
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: start week? Oh yeah, but what's the plan?

936
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: The plan is when he's ready.

937
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 4: Plan, I'm going to blow up that.

938
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 7: The plan is I might blow up the plan right,

939
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 7: just start them. Yeah, which is why I still don't

940
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 7: think that he's going to start week one, because I

941
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 7: think they've been pretty consistent with the plan.

942
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 5: The plan has been interesting because he always this was

943
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 5: that two days ago yesterday, He says, we always have

944
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 5: to be flexible in regard to the plan. Right now,

945
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 5: it's all going the right way, the right direction, and hopefully.

946
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 6: We need to make.

947
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 5: A movie, like how are we feeling about Jahaem Bell

948
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 5: because right now, like he's getting a lot of those

949
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 5: extra reps with Mitchell Wilcox and Hunter Henry Out.

950
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna come down to do they prioritize receiving

951
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 6: upside or blocking upside? Like jahem Bell cannot block in

952
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 6: line in the NFL. He got blown up in the

953
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 6: game and.

954
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 4: Then he came back yesterday in practice.

955
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, he can't do that. But he's an explosive athlete

956
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 6: and I like them like me too, And this team

957
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 6: is so debiat of explosive playmakers that I almost feel

958
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 6: like they have to just take the chance on Jaheem

959
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 6: Bell that he could be one of those types of

960
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 6: guys you know in the draft. I always thought of

961
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 6: him as like a Johnny Smith type of player, probably

962
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 6: more of like a guy that's gonna be closer to

963
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage, but is really good with the

964
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 6: ball in his hands. He's got an explosive gear that

965
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 6: to me, is more important than Okay, Mitchell Wilcox is

966
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 6: a little bit bigger and a little bit sturdier as

967
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 6: an inline blocker, but it might not be more important

968
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 6: to them. If they really want to be this run

969
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 6: heavy team, then they might look at the tight end

970
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:58,959
Speaker 6: as needed to block.

971
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 5: So evan take the injuries out of it. Say if

972
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 5: all the Titans were healthy right now, did you have

973
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 5: or would you have Jahamee Bell on your fifty three?

974
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

975
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 6: I would because the main reason is his upside. And

976
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 6: if right now, if I'm the Patriots, everything is a

977
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 6: got to have a long term view at it. And

978
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 6: if Jamee Bell can be an explosive playmaker for you

979
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 6: and somebody, that's a value add in the passing game,

980
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 6: that's a chance this team has to take right now.

981
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 6: I don't like no offense to Mitchell Willcox's the world,

982
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 6: but like those are the types of guys that they

983
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 6: can't get attached to.

984
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 7: You can get Mitchell will if you, if you like,

985
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 7: decide to roll the dice and say, you know, this

986
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 7: is Jeane Bell. I'm intrigued by his athleticism, and then

987
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, it's like Jacob Hollister, Remember, like

988
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 7: he's he was.

989
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 6: Pretty good in SEEA And my apologies Hooper, who's the

990
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 6: other guy?

991
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe it's maybe it's a sud film.

992
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 7: Well that is a felt which is the guy that

993
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,479
Speaker 7: looked like he was a world beating all of a sudden,

994
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 7: he couldn't catch it, so it didn't work out, and

995
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 7: the guy's clearly not ready. You can always bring back

996
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 7: you know, maybe not Mitchell Wilcox personally him, but you

997
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 7: can always bring back a Mitchell Wilcox.

998
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 6: Brown, like three days before the season started last.

999
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 5: I also forgot Hooper and that conversation about tight ends.

1000
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 5: I know that he was out with an injury. Is

1001
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 5: he back?

1002
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 6: He was back yesterday, but he was a little limited.

1003
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 6: But that's like he'll be fine.

1004
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 7: But to your point, if Henry's not ready at the

1005
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 7: start of the season, that's big because I think that

1006
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 7: the tight end specifically has been a huge part of

1007
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 7: what they're trying to do. Henry was the best player,

1008
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 7: but any of the receivers in camp before he got hurt,

1009
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 7: and then Henry was out and Hooper was the target

1010
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 7: in that like the preseason game joint practice and then

1011
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 7: the early preseason Henry Hooper was the guy they were

1012
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 7: looking for, so that's an issue if Henry's not there.

1013
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: Agreed, all right, let's go to Sam in North Carolina.

1014
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: What's up, Sam?

1015
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 12: Get Drake May on the other time I wanted to

1016
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 12: see the Coves did is when they paying for him

1017
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 12: and they with Drake make took his job and he's

1018
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 12: been a great mentor, and pay him back and Drake

1019
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 12: make click Evan you Assistant offensive coordinator Paul is all

1020
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 12: on TV. You guys use your pool and get him

1021
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 12: on the field.

1022
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 2: Thanks, all right, thanks Sam?

1023
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 4: I love that call.

1024
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he called. Also at the postgame show, he's going

1025
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: to be all about getting Drake May out.

1026
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 5: He's gonna play Sam. Sam is saying, throw out the plan,

1027
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 5: get Drake May out there. What do you define as

1028
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 5: lighting it up on Sunday?

1029
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: Like?

1030
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 5: Is it a statistic thing? Is it a you know

1031
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 5: what you're seeing thing?

1032
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: I can see on Sunday.

1033
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 7: I could see it the next three days in practice, okay,

1034
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 7: or or or next week.

1035
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 4: I don't care, Like I just well, do.

1036
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: You think you don't want to going out there throwing picks?

1037
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 5: But do you want No?

1038
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 4: I don't want that.

1039
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 2: He's like nine of eleven.

1040
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 4: Then okay, what if he's six or eleven for forty

1041
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 4: four yards?

1042
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: Six of eleven for forty four yards.

1043
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what he wasn't just out of here.

1044
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: I'm just throwing numbers out there.

1045
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: What does it look like? I have to see what

1046
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: it looks like.

1047
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 6: He should have been seven for eleven for about one

1048
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 6: hundred and something.

1049
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: But this is hard, right about it all? But this

1050
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 4: is just my point. But I don't care what.

1051
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: He does on you know what I mean? If you

1052
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: know what?

1053
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 7: Like I said, I like the way it's at the

1054
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 7: last few days, but I want to keep seeing that.

1055
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 7: I don't think I would classify that as lighting it up.

1056
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 5: Do you think it has to look good in practice

1057
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 5: and the game for them to throw out the plan

1058
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 5: or do you think they're more focused on the game

1059
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 5: than practice practice?

1060
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 7: May I always said it, practice is far more important.

1061
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 7: He said that on a number of occasions.

1062
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 6: I just I've already seen enough. My questions with Drake

1063
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 6: May are not about is he ready?

1064
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: I'm with you on this.

1065
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 6: My question is is when is the best time for

1066
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 6: him to play? And as we've argued about this on

1067
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 6: Cash twenty two, to the point where people have asked

1068
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 6: us to stop arguing about it.

1069
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 4: That's not fair.

1070
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 6: But the main thing that I would say at this

1071
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 6: point is that.

1072
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: It's time for him to play is when he's ready.

1073
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 6: No, not necessarily. What if the team's not ready. What

1074
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 6: if you're going to put what if the offensive line

1075
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 6: is a sieve? What if they're going to go out

1076
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 6: in primetime and get blown out by Aaron Rodgers? I

1077
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 6: don't don't need to see that, Like he's their point.

1078
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 7: Is, but do you think that there's less of a

1079
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 7: chance if you put a quarterback who's not ready out

1080
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 7: there of getting blown out?

1081
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 6: No, I'm what I'm saying. I think Drake has been

1082
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 6: ready the whole time.

1083
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 4: I haven't.

1084
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 6: I haven't waivered from that because he's the best quarterback

1085
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 6: on the ski.

1086
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 4: But you can't tell me that he's processing the place.

1087
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: The best right now to run the offense.

1088
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 6: Mentally, he was the best option that they had at

1089
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 6: quarterback the night they drafted him, and I've been saying

1090
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 6: that since the night they drift.

1091
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I'm with Paul here, how can

1092
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: you say that when he hasn't even opened up the

1093
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: playbook yet?

1094
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 13: What do you mean what do you mean, because he's

1095
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 13: by far the most talented player, But that's talent.

1096
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 4: I don't think.

1097
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 13: I don't think anybody about here he's the best. I

1098
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 13: don't think quarterback team. I agree with you talent wise, right, Yes,

1099
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 13: and he was.

1100
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 6: I understand that there had to be a developmental track there,

1101
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 6: but the night they drafted him, he was always going

1102
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 6: to get to this point.

1103
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

1104
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 7: I might be contradictory. I want him to play. I

1105
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 7: want him to play week one. Wanted him to play

1106
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 7: week one since they drafted him. I do not think

1107
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 7: he's ready to play week one. I know that probably

1108
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 7: sounds like a country you still tell you because I

1109
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 7: don't think the other guy can play, So what are

1110
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 7: we doing? What's the difference? Just let him learn it

1111
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 7: on the go. It'll accelerate the process. So that way

1112
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 7: in year two.

1113
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: I thought I'm ready to roll, but I thought you

1114
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 2: just said you don't think he's ready to play.

1115
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 7: I don't think he's ready to play, but I want

1116
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 7: him to play, but get get ready by playing.

1117
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 2: So I'm going to ask, don't get ready by watching.

1118
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: But I'm going to ask you the same question in

1119
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: reverse that I asked ever, Why don't you think he's

1120
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: ready to play? What have you just?

1121
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 7: I don't see him processing very fast. I still see

1122
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 7: the double hits, the process. I still see the late throws.

1123
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 7: I still see hurried throws, like he's not ready.

1124
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 2: He's not sure that those are physical things.

1125
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 4: No, it's mental, it's mental.

1126
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 7: Physically, he blows Jakoby were said out of the water.

1127
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 7: It's not even worth talking about. Right, He's he's faster, stronger, better.

1128
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 2: Armed, And why he's not getting the first team snaps

1129
00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: in practice?

1130
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 6: Evan, I can I answer that question. I have no idea,

1131
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 6: but I just the thing I keep coming back to

1132
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 6: is that, you know, Bar's argument on catch twenty two

1133
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 6: is always that he's afraid to put him behind the

1134
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 6: offensive line. Right, that's not my Okay, I understand, but

1135
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 6: it's you know, let's it's it's a marathon, not a sprint.

1136
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 6: We're not talking about September twenty twenty four. We're talking

1137
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 6: about the next five to ten years. That that whole thing.

1138
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 6: And I'm at the point now where I'm willing to

1139
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 6: compromise with those people. Okay, I'm willing to compromise because

1140
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 6: I said week one from the start, I wanted to

1141
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 6: see him play week one. I'm willing to compromise.

1142
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: If you want no more like a month now.

1143
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 4: Wad never like when we this is not new. I've

1144
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 4: been with you on this day. I want him. I

1145
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 4: want him to play week one. I just don't think

1146
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 4: he's going.

1147
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 6: To if he plays, if they get him in there

1148
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 6: in week five instead of week one, because they feel

1149
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 6: like it's just better for everything, the whole operation, get

1150
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 6: the offensive line settled down a little bit, avoid some

1151
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 6: of these big hitters in the beginning of the season,

1152
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 6: and maybe just ease him into it a little bit more.

1153
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 6: And also just watch Jakobe, like go through a regular

1154
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 6: season week and what it's like to prepare during the

1155
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 6: week to play in the game on Sunday. Is something

1156
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 6: that might benefit him.

1157
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: All good points. Don't discount like all the new coaches

1158
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 4: you have.

1159
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 2: That's fair.

1160
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 7: So now they all those new coaches that are doing things,

1161
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 7: and even I would include Van Pelton that because he's

1162
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 7: never really done this, you know, calling all the plays

1163
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 7: and everything. Let them get that, you know, four or

1164
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 7: five six times out of the way.

1165
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 6: I hate to I like that plot.

1166
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 5: I think if the offense can knock the rust off

1167
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 5: of the new play callers, the offensive line, whatever it is,

1168
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 5: and then put him out there after two games. I

1169
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 5: don't hate that, But I also don't hate either. It's

1170
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 5: putting him out there week one and letting him learn

1171
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 5: by example. I think both are good as long as

1172
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 5: you're not sitting him for too long. Two or three

1173
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 5: games is good.

1174
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, my concern with week one is mainly just the

1175
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 6: operation around him. Are you putting him in a functional environment,

1176
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 6: like if he's gonna go out there in Week one

1177
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 6: against lou anamer Remo in a really good Bengals defense

1178
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 6: to get his butt kicked, I don't know if that's

1179
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 6: really what's best for Drake May's long term development. The

1180
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 6: second thing I would just say is let's not lose

1181
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 6: sight of the fact that it's a much longer season

1182
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 6: in the NFL than it is in college. And in college,

1183
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 6: you know, he plays twelve thirteen games a year. Now,

1184
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 6: if you start in week one, he's gonna have to

1185
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 6: play seventeen games and the bye isn't until week fourteen.

1186
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 7: I guess what I'm saying would be this, do you

1187
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 7: think Brissette or May would have a better chance of

1188
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 7: being prepared to face big lose because I can never

1189
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 7: pronounce in a room Moya ram Mo Bengals defense in

1190
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 7: Week one? Who do you think would be better prepared

1191
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 7: to go into that? Like, I really think it's almost

1192
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 7: impossible to say. I don't want that he would be ready,

1193
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 7: but I want, I want me to play. I'm with Evan,

1194
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 7: I'm with Fred, I'm with Samara, I'm we're all in agreement.

1195
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 7: I want to see May. I just can't really look

1196
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 7: at him based on what I've seen in camp and saying,

1197
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 7: oh God, if he's got this, he's got like you know,

1198
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 7: he's ready to go.

1199
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 4: He can do.

1200
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 7: I want him to learn on the fly because I

1201
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 7: think that's the better way to learn, right.

1202
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 5: So, but I have a question.

1203
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 4: I can't argue that I feel like he's really ready

1204
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 4: to go.

1205
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 5: If Week one was on the road versus the commanders,

1206
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 5: would you just put May out there? Because it's like different.

1207
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 7: I don't really care about the offensive line, and I

1208
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 7: don't care about who he's playing. I'm just saying, regardless

1209
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 7: of the opponent, the guy who'd be more prepared to

1210
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 7: face that opponent is the guy who's in his ninth

1211
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 7: year than the guy was rookie year. Again, no one

1212
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 7: would argue Evan that May doesn't blow him away from

1213
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 7: a physical standpoint. He's a better player, he's a better quarterback.

1214
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 7: I just don't know if he's ready to be a

1215
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 7: better quarterback.

1216
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 2: Yet.

1217
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 4: I would play him.

1218
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 7: I would, I would absolutely play him right out of

1219
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 7: the chute, let him go.

1220
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 4: But I just don't think they're going to do that.

1221
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 7: Can I ask another question that I hear a lot, Oh,

1222
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 7: when you take this tack, this is a short one,

1223
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 7: quick one.

1224
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1225
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 7: Let's say, for argument, say you sit May for three

1226
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 7: weeks and you put him in before you before he's ready,

1227
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 7: and then he plays like two or three games and

1228
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 7: it just does not look good.

1229
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 4: Why can't why?

1230
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 7: Why is it like set in Stone that but once

1231
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 7: you go to him, you have to stay with him.

1232
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 7: You can't do Why can't you? Why can't you take

1233
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 7: him out and say.

1234
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 2: Okay, talking about psyche and losing his confidence.

1235
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 4: So you talk to him and say, listen, you.

1236
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 2: Tell him beforehand, don't look good, It's okay, We're gonna

1237
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: take you out, you know.

1238
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 7: But then like you'll go back in development. I think

1239
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 7: guys have come out of games as rookies Tua did.

1240
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I don't. I don't think that that's like

1241
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 4: a bridge too far, Like do I want to do it? No,

1242
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 4: it's not ideal. Once I put him in, I want

1243
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 4: him to be the guy.

1244
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, but like if it doesn't, let this whole notion

1245
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 7: that if you put him in, once you put him in,

1246
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 7: you can't turn back.

1247
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 4: I don't understand that.

1248
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean.

1249
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 4: Is he that weak that we can't take him out

1250
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 4: of the game?

1251
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 6: Hope not.

1252
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: But by the way, if he doesn't look good from

1253
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 2: like a performance standpoint, throwing it, I don't care this year.

1254
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: Let them make mistakes, you know.

1255
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 4: I think we're all in agreement. I think, but I

1256
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 4: don't really feel like we're going.

1257
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: To get what we want. Jason, Minnesota, what's up, Jay?

1258
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 10: What's up?

1259
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 12: Guys?

1260
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 8: I was thinking about that question of how they prepared

1261
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 8: for the seat like the future, and I would give

1262
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 8: him a seven, but I maybe say and ain't if

1263
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 8: they were to play Drake may right away because that

1264
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 8: goes into development and he can play with those young receivers.

1265
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 8: And I was wondering if you think it's kind of

1266
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 8: a situation like Green Bay where they have a bunch

1267
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 8: of young receivers who probably wouldn't start on a lot

1268
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 8: of teams. I mean maybe the Patriots, but not a

1269
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 8: lot of teams would have you know, Watson and Reed

1270
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 8: and Remeo Dodds playing, but they got to develop with

1271
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 8: each other and now they've played pretty well. And I

1272
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 8: think that Jordan is gonna have a great season because

1273
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 8: he knows how to play with these you know, c

1274
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 8: to be players and knows how they run their routes

1275
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 8: and knows that their timing. And I think that if

1276
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 8: they can let Drake May play.

1277
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 14: With the young receivers like Baker and Pole and Pop

1278
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 14: and then even if the Junian bell to health, you like,

1279
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 14: that can turn into a we know our timing, we

1280
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 14: know where you're gonna be at. And I mean the

1281
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 14: quarterback shit behind the legendary quarterback Jacobe Present is in

1282
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 14: thet I don't know how much more processing, Like, I

1283
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 14: don't know what the gas is gonna between those two.

1284
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 14: And I don't know if you guys have an opinion

1285
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 14: on how far you think Drake May is from Jacoby,

1286
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 14: But I mean, if you get in the game, and

1287
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 14: I think that he can pick it.

1288
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 15: Up quite back.

1289
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 6: Yep, Yeah, I think I think the goal. I thought

1290
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 6: the goal with the receivers was to do the Green

1291
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 6: Bay model exactly how he laid out. You know, Watson

1292
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 6: Dobbs read is pop Polk Baker. But then they tried

1293
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 6: to trade for Brandon at Yuk. They try to give

1294
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 6: a bag of money to Calvin Ridley and free agency.

1295
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 6: So I don't know if that's necessarily plan A. It

1296
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 6: seems like Plan A was to go get a big fish,

1297
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 6: and it's sort of morphed into plan B, which is, well,

1298
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 6: why don't we let the young kids play and hopefully

1299
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 6: they all, you know, rise to the top together and

1300
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 6: we have a good thing going, a good nucleus going.

1301
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,439
Speaker 6: Maybe it's the Texans way where Nico Collins and Tank

1302
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 6: Dell have these great years and then they go trade

1303
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 6: for Stefan Diggs and he's the cherry on top. But

1304
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 6: I can't sit here and say that that was the plan,

1305
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 6: because the plan was to pay Calvin Ridley, like that

1306
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 6: was the plan. Then the plan became, well Brandon Nyuk.

1307
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 2: I want a GM who when something, when opportunity knocks,

1308
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: they try to open the door. I mean, you know,

1309
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 2: you didn't know that Ayuk was going to get to

1310
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: this point, but once he did, Holy mackerel, he's better

1311
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 2: than anybody we have. He makes our team better if

1312
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: we can get him, regardless of who the quarterback is.

1313
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 6: That's fair. But the Packers never would trade for Brandon Ayuk.

1314
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 7: Well that's a whole philosophy thing, right right, But that's

1315
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 7: what we're trying to figure out.

1316
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, is it a plan or not?

1317
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: I think the plan here is get better, better, period

1318
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: in every different way.

1319
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 7: Well, I think that to Evan's point, I think they

1320
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 7: felt like they were going to get better with these

1321
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 7: three young guys.

1322
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 2: I think that's part of it. But add Ayuk to that,

1323
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 2: why not? Why not?

1324
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 6: I'm just saying that I would do it.

1325
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 7: It's not the pack I'm not sold on the two rookies,

1326
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 7: so I mean, I mean, that's that's the difference.

1327
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 4: I think.

1328
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 7: That's why I would take im. But if I was

1329
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 7: really sold in the rookies, I wouldn't be interested.

1330
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: Even if you love poke In Baker, why not bring

1331
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: in a guy like Brandon.

1332
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 7: Ayuk Because I don't want to stunt the development of

1333
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 7: my own guys that I'm really excited about.

1334
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: It hurts the bottom, it hurts the booties of the world,

1335
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: they're gone, you know what I mean, it's no, but

1336
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: it's a trickle down. So let's just say that. You know,

1337
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: obviously Poke and Baker a locks right wherever you have

1338
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: them in the depth chart. Wherever you have them in the.

1339
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 4: Depth chart, Pokes a lock.

1340
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Baker is a lot, don't you think?

1341
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 4: Probably? But I don't like the way he's played the

1342
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 4: last two weeks.

1343
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: Okay, but you bring an Ayuk wherever you think they are,

1344
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: it knocks them down a little. We've talked about the

1345
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: domino effect, but they're still on the team. They're not

1346
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: going to be cut.

1347
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 7: Because right now that the development gets stopped, having to

1348
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 7: cut somebody, if I'm if I'm if I want to

1349
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 7: cut somebody, I don't need him. Yeah, Like Polk and

1350
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 7: Baker if their locks, and they probably are, Polk is definitely,

1351
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 7: they're not going to get cut. If you come now,

1352
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 7: they're not going to get the amount of run that

1353
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 7: you were thinking they were going to get.

1354
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 2: I think that I would get would I would.

1355
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 4: Take listen, I was we were, we were here about

1356
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 4: two weeks ago.

1357
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: Think it might even help them.

1358
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 7: Right with a very exciting show about the possibility of

1359
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 7: getting Ayuk, we were all on board. I definitely would

1360
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 7: be on board of that. But I understand what Evan's

1361
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 7: talking about, Like, if you have a plant like Green

1362
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 7: Bay had a plan and they had three guys they

1363
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 7: felt really good about, actually four because that Wix guys

1364
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 7: pretty good too. Yes, And I don't think they would

1365
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 7: have been interested in disrupting that because they want those guys.

1366
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 7: They felt really good about them. Yeah, and they wanted

1367
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 7: them to develop. If you bring in a big dog

1368
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 7: that knocks one of those guys down, he's not going

1369
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 7: to develop as much.

1370
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: I think that he gets less attention during games. I

1371
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: think it might even help them.

1372
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 4: You can only have so many guys on the field

1373
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 4: at once.

1374
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: I know, but there's plenty of run for everybody.

1375
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 6: I agree with what Fred is saying that the trickle

1376
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 6: down effect I would have done. Ay the coverage dictating

1377
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 6: aspect of AYUK comes in now Jalen Polk's facing number

1378
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 6: two corners instead of number one corners, and Baker's on

1379
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 6: the number Like. I agree with all of that. I

1380
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 6: just you can't sit here and say the plan was

1381
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 6: to draft these young guys and try to go young

1382
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 6: and develop in the Packer way like they did in

1383
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 6: Green Bay, and then on the other breath offer thirty

1384
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 6: million dollars a year to Brandon Nyuk. Like, those things

1385
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 6: are contradictory. So I think the plan is to add

1386
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 6: a receiver of that caliber, which is not a bad plan,

1387
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 6: but it's just not what the Packers did. Yeah, you

1388
01:00:59,480 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 6: know which is.

1389
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 7: And I would have done it. I would have done

1390
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 7: what Elliott Wolf did. I would have done next shiny

1391
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 7: Shiny prize.

1392
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, next offseason, I think they'll chase the shiny toy

1393
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 6: again and they'll do it until, I I believe, until

1394
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 6: they land one.

1395
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think you always have to be looking at

1396
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 5: Wasayte for your team to get better at every position.

1397
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 5: So like, if the wide receiver room is missing that

1398
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 5: big dog, definitely keep your door open for it. But like,

1399
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 5: but if you're comfortable with the young guys, you're good.

1400
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 7: But if I felt as strongly as Green Bay does

1401
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 7: about those guys, I might not have been interested in But.

1402
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: If there's if miracles happen and Drake May and Poke

1403
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: have this amazing connection and Poke is you know, fourteen

1404
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: hundred yards, Okay, maybe the need to go after that

1405
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: shiny toy lessens a little bit and now you're going

1406
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 2: after the shiny tackle. You know, you're, you're you know,

1407
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 2: so conditions on the ground change. And I know what

1408
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: I just laid out is kind of pie in the sky.

1409
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: But I know what you but if poke emerges and okay,

1410
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: now you know we don't need to go after the

1411
01:01:58,760 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: next Brandon Nyuk.

1412
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 7: And that's what green Bay did. Green Bay said, I

1413
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 7: think we have guys that are going to do that.

1414
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 4: We don't need that.

1415
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 7: And now I'm not telling you green Bay was talking

1416
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 7: about Ayuk, just using that as an example because it's

1417
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 7: the one ever brought out. Yeah, and I think it's

1418
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 7: kind of Listen, we compare a lot of stuff to

1419
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 7: the packer way.

1420
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 4: Because of Elliott Wolf Like. It's that there is a

1421
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 4: sort of.

1422
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 7: Natural comparison to me because that's the way I think

1423
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 7: they're going to try to go about their business.

1424
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 6: What are your thoughts on the rookie receivers because I

1425
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 6: think we might be on the same page on this one.

1426
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 7: But I like Jalen Polk. I like the way he plays.

1427
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 7: He's a football player. I'm just not convinced he's ever

1428
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 7: going to be anything more than sort of a serviceable

1429
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 7: possession kind of guy. Baker is one of the more

1430
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 7: trick or treat guys I've ever seen. Like as a

1431
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 7: young guy, I'm less and less impressed with his explosiveness

1432
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 7: by the day. He looks tired to me a little bit.

1433
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 4: Maybe he's going through that camp thing, you know, like

1434
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 4: it's kind of hitting the wall. Yeah, this is unfair,

1435
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 4: but we talk openly on Patriots unfiltered right, unfiltered right.

1436
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 4: This is up.

1437
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 7: But this is probably unfair because I've never really spoken,

1438
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 7: you know, other than with thirty of my closest friends,

1439
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 7: I've never really spoken to him.

1440
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 4: I don't love his body language on the field.

1441
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 7: I'll give you a couple of examples. The other day

1442
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 7: he comes out at practice. There's a mindlessly long pre

1443
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 7: practice routine that the Patriots do.

1444
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 4: Now everybody's doing something.

1445
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 7: Now, Yeah, you know, your boy, David Wallace is constantly

1446
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 7: catching punts off the drugs machine work. He needs the

1447
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 7: work because he catches them all twice at least. There

1448
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 7: are other guys, you know, receivers that are sort of

1449
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 7: Jalen Rager looks like he's been dealing with something with

1450
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 7: his hip the last couple of days. He's got the

1451
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 7: thera gun out there. He's been, you know, sort of

1452
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 7: loosening up, getting some work in. Jayvon Baker is sitting

1453
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 7: on his helmet in between the practice fields by himself.

1454
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 7: I just can't imagine there's not something that a rookie

1455
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 7: wide receiver could be doing. Austin Hooper yesterday, after missing

1456
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 7: the previous practice, was down in the opposite end zone

1457
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 7: catching passes off the judge machine. Been in the league

1458
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 7: nine years, So I don't like the the optics of

1459
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 7: a rookie receiver sitting on his helmet by himself while

1460
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 7: everybody else is sort of preparing for practice. There was

1461
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 7: a deep ball that he was intended for. He was

1462
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 7: double covered, blanketed. Ball goes incomplete. It must have taken

1463
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 7: him a full minute to walk all the way back.

1464
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 2: To buy.

1465
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 4: Like, I just don't like the body language and the optics.

1466
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 7: Think that completely unfair because I don't know, like what's

1467
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 7: going on, you know. So I'm just reading from Afar

1468
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 7: and I just I haven't liked the way it's looked.

1469
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 7: And it has nothing to do with him dropping a

1470
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 7: deep ball. The guys drop passes that that's a physical mistake.

1471
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 7: I didn't love the route earlier where he allowed himself

1472
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 7: to get bullied out of bounds. But you know, it's

1473
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 7: not necessarily a production thing. It's more of what I'm watching. Yeah,

1474
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 7: and does that make any sense?

1475
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it does. But here's a good here's a

1476
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: good example of a guy who if you look at

1477
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: Poke and Baker, Baker is probably the better athlete. Yeah right,

1478
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: oh yeah, But there's a reason why he didn't go

1479
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 2: in the in the second round, you know.

1480
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a reason why he transferred from Bama.

1481
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean right, also true, Yeah, Paul, you know

1482
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 6: you're speaking facts about what you were seeing. The film

1483
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 6: is the film for both those guys in the preseason,

1484
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 6: and it hasn't always been pretty. I mean, Jaymon Baker

1485
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 6: cannot get off press coverage on the outside right now.

1486
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 6: Khille Ringo put put him into the sideline multiple times,

1487
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 6: like the one player gets highlighted that everybody goes fully

1488
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 6: out of bounds and gets you know, he would have

1489
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 6: even if he catches that pass, he's he's illegal, he's

1490
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 6: an eligible receiver at that point. He had a lot

1491
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 6: of released problems against press Man in that game. And

1492
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 6: then you put the drop in there too. Even the

1493
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 6: bal he caught on the endcut, he like jumped and

1494
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 6: double yeah, it did not look right. So that that's

1495
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 6: concerning uh, Jalen Polk. I I still don't see a

1496
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 6: whole lot of burst or acceleration in his routes. And

1497
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 6: he's also has two or three times a game in

1498
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 6: the two preseason games where I'm not one hundred percent

1499
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 6: sure he's running the right route, which I don't love.

1500
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 6: So I'll give you an example the bootleg play that

1501
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 6: Drake May hit Mitchell Wilcox in the flat on a

1502
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 6: little jump throw and it's Manton man coverage. Nobody has

1503
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 6: Mitchell Wilcox. It's a it's a bust. Nobody has Mitchell Wilcox.

1504
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 6: The guy that makes the tackle on Wilcox is Jalen

1505
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 6: Polk's man.

1506
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 7: Oh and he plew his arms that he was disgusted

1507
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 7: with himself because.

1508
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 6: Jalen Polk ran in the same area as Mitchell Wilcox,

1509
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 6: so he brought more people to the party. And just

1510
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 6: based off of spacing and how concepts work, you never

1511
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 6: see an offensive coordinator design a route combination to have

1512
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 6: two guys in the same place.

1513
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: Sure you know that's a problem if it happens someone's wrong.

1514
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, and watching the play just how it worked out

1515
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 6: conceptually from every other angle, you have to point to

1516
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,439
Speaker 6: Polk as the one that was the wrong culprit there.

1517
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 6: So if he's not in the area and he's cleared

1518
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 6: out of that area, there's nothing but green grass in

1519
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 6: front of Mitchell Wilcox, it's probably like a fifteen yard game.

1520
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:29,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1521
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 7: I thought he was upset with himself for missing a block.

1522
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 7: I thought there was maybe a screen that was setting

1523
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 7: up and he was supposed to take care of someone.

1524
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 7: But what you're saying makes more sense.

1525
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, So he ran an out into the flat and

1526
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 6: Mitchell Wilcox ran the slide route you know, where he

1527
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 6: runs into the flat and now there's two guys in

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01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 6: the flat and Polk's guy ends up making the tackle.

1529
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 6: There's another play, you know, the sack to that Drake

1530
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 6: May had late in the game. It's a dagger concept,

1531
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 6: So Polk's got to clear out the inside coverage and

1532
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 6: then case on Booty. I think it is is gonna

1533
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 6: run that deep incut.

1534
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 4: And that's similar to the concept on the Baker catch.

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01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, so uh sort of, so May is holding the

1536
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 6: ball because He's waiting for Jalen Polk to clear the

1537
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 6: safety out of the picture, and he's holding it and

1538
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 6: he's holding it and he's holding it, and Jalen Polk

1539
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 6: runs this like squiggly line of a route. He gets

1540
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 6: chucked at the line of scrimmage and then he just

1541
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 6: doesn't really get back on the route and it took

1542
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 6: too long. It just the whole thing took too long.

1543
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 6: So Drake May is holding the ball because if he

1544
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 6: throws the incut, which is where he wants to go

1545
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 6: with the ball, before Jalen Polk clears it out, the

1546
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 6: safety is just gonna jump it. It's gonna be a

1547
01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 6: pick six the other direction. So he's waiting for the

1548
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 6: route to develop, and Jalen Polk is just kind of

1549
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 6: lolly gagging up the field. And I see these things

1550
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 6: on the film and I'm like, is he ready? Like

1551
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 6: is he ready?

1552
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 2: Though?

1553
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 6: Like, you know, we get out into practice and he's

1554
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 6: running with the top offense and I'm like.

1555
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 4: They keep saying it because they don't have top receivers.

1556
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, like maybe they're looking at it differently from me.

1557
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 6: That's totally possible. But I was watching JT. O. Sullivan's

1558
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 6: breakdown of Drake May and we had the same notes

1559
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 6: about Jalen Polk And I'm like, all right, so at

1560
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 6: least somebody else that watches this religiously is seeing the

1561
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 6: same thing. I'm not saying that he's a bust. I know,

1562
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 6: I think he's tough.

1563
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 7: I like some I think he's a football player, but

1564
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 7: I'm not sure he's as good as some people have

1565
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 7: made him out.

1566
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just concerning because he's going to have to

1567
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 6: be one of those guys that mentally is a master

1568
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 6: of the game, Like he's going to have to be

1569
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,560
Speaker 6: a high IQ reute runner in order to make it

1570
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,799
Speaker 6: in this league because he doesn't have a physical traits.

1571
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 2: Right, let's take a break. It's that time. So I

1572
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 2: know Paul's food's not coming, you're no longer eating. I

1573
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't care.

1574
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 4: In front of me.

1575
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 2: Well, it's a little difficult.

1576
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 4: I know, with the new studio. That's why I don't eat.

1577
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 2: No, it's well timing and everything.

1578
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 4: All right, too nice. I don't want to ruin the world.

1579
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll take a break. We'll be right back.

1580
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,679
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Speaker 17: And we're back with another edition of the PU Halftime Show.

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Speaker 17: Matis Balvin here, Chris Casty, it's been a while. It's

1593
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 17: been a long hot summer. Yeah, winter winter around the

1594
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 17: quarter summer. It's been toasty, it's been We've had one

1595
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 17: preseason game, we got another coming soon tomorrow, and.

1596
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,799
Speaker 6: Been a twenty day sprint to say the least, exactly.

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01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 17: It's recording this August fourteenth, which means joints were yesterday. So, Chris,

1598
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 17: worry some of your takeaways on the practice with the

1599
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 17: Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 4: It was good to.

1601
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 18: See Drake may get a little throwing confidence. I think

1602
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 18: you said, not quite the training camp that he would

1603
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 18: have expected. I think he's trying to get in his feet,

1604
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 18: trying to get his feet a little bit more wet

1605
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 18: here and just kind of get into the swing of things.

1606
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 18: But I thought he had a little more thrill confidence.

1607
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 18: Yesterday during joint practice against the Eagles, it was his

1608
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 18: first I mean, aside from the first preseason game. It

1609
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 18: was the first time where he was able to go

1610
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 18: up against a team that's got a strong defense and

1611
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 18: also kind of see from a different point of view

1612
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 18: how good of a quarterback Jalen Hurts is as well. Yeah,

1613
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 18: so I feel like there's a lot of highs and lows,

1614
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 18: But I thought overall that was a takeaway for me.

1615
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 17: It was cool because less than training camps, great football's back.

1616
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 17: But like you know this, Chris, as soon as the

1617
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 17: first two days are over, it gets very very rinse

1618
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 17: and repeat, and you know, the preseason games are not

1619
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 17: what they used to be.

1620
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: And last time we did the halftime.

1621
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 17: So I said, I couldn't wait for the joint practices

1622
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 17: because those are the full time reps. You got people

1623
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 17: absolutely fighting for their spots. You get to see some

1624
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 17: things I haven't seen before and get more reps which

1625
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 17: you would in the game. How Drake played how many

1626
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 17: reps in the Panthers.

1627
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 6: Game like one series.

1628
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good.

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01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 17: You got people talking trash, you know everything. There was

1630
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 17: almost twelve thousand fans here.

1631
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. It was great.

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01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 17: And then also a good good selection too of Philly

1633
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 17: in Yeah, everybody drive up. There are a bunch of

1634
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 17: Philly fans, which you know, they're crazy. The Eagles were

1635
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 17: great to have them in town because.

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01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 18: You know, a great, great organization they really are, from

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01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 18: the fans to the players, like everybody just was happy

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01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 18: to be here just watch football yesterday.

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01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 2: So it was cool.

1640
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 17: And another thing I liked because I didn't really pay

1641
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 17: attention that much in the game because I missed it,

1642
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 17: but it was really cool. I'm not going to get

1643
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,600
Speaker 17: too into we don't have any secrets away seeing the

1644
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 17: new kickoff formation and seeing a couple of reps practicing

1645
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 17: with live hitting just I know nobody in this practice.

1646
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 17: They didn't really show any of their tricks, but I

1647
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 17: think I think the NFL is in for a surprise

1648
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 17: with this.

1649
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it's cool kind of seeing how they've

1650
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 18: been working with the different kickers on the roster as well,

1651
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 18: like even in practice, were able to visually see Bryce

1652
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 18: Behringer get kicked some he's trying to get used to it, and.

1653
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 6: Chad and Joey Syer.

1654
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 2: All you got all kicking it.

1655
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 17: You got people like doing a squib thing, you got

1656
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 17: to going straight up in the air like you know,

1657
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 17: you got it.

1658
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 18: It's the green zone that's completely different, and I think

1659
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 18: it's gonna be tough for a lot of kickers to

1660
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 18: get it there. Yeah, especially with the style of kick

1661
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 18: off they were trying to do.

1662
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 17: And the reps were on it like if people were

1663
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 17: messing up, they were calling it.

1664
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 2: They're like called the game.

1665
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 17: So it was great to see that. So so from joints,

1666
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 17: who who stood out to you?

1667
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 6: Who stood out to me?

1668
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 18: I mean, Jalen Polk is just he's just been dynamic

1669
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 18: all Campaiger last time. Throw Baker in there as well.

1670
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 18: I think those two have really stuck out the most.

1671
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 18: Jalen Rager had a pretty solid day overall yesterday. I

1672
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 18: want one awesome play along the sideline where he most

1673
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 18: one of the Philly DB's chacobe into Jalen's hands. So

1674
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 18: it's cool to see Jalen get some action. Yeah, in

1675
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 18: this former team, and Jalen's playing for something this year,

1676
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 18: he really is. And I think from a confidence level,

1677
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 18: didn't really work out for him in Minnesota, didn't work

1678
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 18: out in Philly, Like you want to see him get

1679
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 18: to where he has potential to be as a as

1680
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 18: a round one wide receiver.

1681
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 6: That's where he was drafted.

1682
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 17: And as we talk about the receivers since we've last

1683
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 17: been on the show, Juju has been released. So that's

1684
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 17: another person out in the wide receiver comp which just

1685
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 17: means other guys are gonna have to step up, and

1686
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 17: they're more reps.

1687
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 18: So yeah, and I mean, Patriots eat nine million dollars there,

1688
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 18: But I think it's I don't think they're upset about it.

1689
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 18: I think Juju is time to move on regardless. He

1690
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 18: just I really don't think he's going to fit the

1691
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 18: fold here in New England. And I mean, you got

1692
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 18: these young guys coming up. You know a guy that

1693
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 18: is my dark horse candidate to make this team, David Wallace. Okay,

1694
01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 18: Like I for whatever reason, have this obsession with him him.

1695
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 18: I think he could be a great slot guy. He

1696
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,879
Speaker 18: has really great hands, great route running ability.

1697
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 2: Just get it.

1698
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 17: Just get him out of the thirty jersey.

1699
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean does no matter of what jersey, it's

1700
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 6: long you.

1701
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 2: Meet the team. There we go.

1702
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 17: I'm just saying we can't have wide receivers wearing thirty.

1703
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:15,679
Speaker 2: That's a pet people in mind.

1704
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 6: So we've already talked about that.

1705
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 17: We have talked about it, but for another day, another time.

1706
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 17: But Wallas, he's your dark horse.

1707
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a dark horse. I like Terrell Jennings too.

1708
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 2: Running back.

1709
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 18: He runs hard man, he puts his head down, puts

1710
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 18: the lowers his shoulder.

1711
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 6: It's not free to to absorb some comdge.

1712
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 17: I mean, I mean, I know we signed Gibson, but

1713
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 17: that whole I mean, for me, it's really vermondre and

1714
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 17: the rest is an open competition. So whoever whoever steps up,

1715
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 17: take it because running back is just such an in

1716
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 17: changeable spot.

1717
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 18: I don't know, I think it's it's hard because Kevin

1718
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 18: Harris has obviously a lot of experience here in New

1719
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 18: England and you don't want to take that away from him.

1720
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 18: But Jamaichael Hasty has a lot of experience from San

1721
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 18: Franz to Jacksonville to here, and I mean Terrell Jennings

1722
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 18: is really showing off what he can.

1723
01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 2: Do, all right, Chris.

1724
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 17: So we got the game coming up, and so let's

1725
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 17: just think what do we want to see and what

1726
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 17: we look forward to to going to Washington before we

1727
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 17: gets the season, because you know, I think by the

1728
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 17: time this goes out, the game is going to happen.

1729
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 17: So what do we want to see how maybe it

1730
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 17: pans out for next week.

1731
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 18: I'm very curious what Geron Mayo wants to do with

1732
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 18: his quarterbacks.

1733
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 6: In this game.

1734
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 18: I mean, obviously you saw all four of them, but

1735
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 18: Kobe got one series, ye, Drake got one series. It's

1736
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 18: pretty much to Joe Milton and Bailly ZAPPI show. I

1737
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 18: think this week is going to be a really important

1738
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 18: week for Bailly Zappy. And I say that because Joe

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01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 18: Milton was the player of the game in the preseason

1740
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 18: Week one. So I think if Bailey can show, Okay,

1741
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 18: I'm worthy of being on this roster, I think that's

1742
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 18: a huge step for him. But I think Joe Milton

1743
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 18: has a lot to prove there too.

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Speaker 17: I think I'll go something similar to that. I don't

1745
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 17: think Bailey is going to be on the final roster.

1746
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 17: I agree, and so I don't. I don't like him

1747
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 17: taking reps from Joe and Drake, but if he does

1748
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 17: get reps, I think it's kind of out of respect

1749
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 17: because there's been some quarterback news in the past. You

1750
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 17: know forty eight hours that Zappi can play in the league,

1751
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 17: But I just don't know if it's gonna be with us.

1752
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 17: But I think he's done enough here that he deserves

1753
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 17: a shot somewhere else, So I agree.

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01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 2: I mean that works out.

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01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 18: We've seen him as a starter here. I mean he's

1756
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 18: not the most dynamic quarterback. He's good enough to be

1757
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 18: on the field if you need him. Yeah, And I

1758
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 18: mean his twelve interceptions to eleven touchdowns is a tough line,

1759
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 18: but I think if you put him in the right situations,

1760
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:22,799
Speaker 18: you can really succeed.

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Speaker 2: Agreed.

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Speaker 17: All right, Chris, We'll be back soon and seasons coming

1763
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 17: along so we can get more shows out here. But

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01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 17: all right, guys, thanks for tuning in. Let's get back

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01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 17: to Patris Unfiltered.

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Speaker 19: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no,

1767
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 19: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1768
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 19: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

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01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 19: now it's next for residential delivery only.

1770
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 4: And now great moments in history, I'll give you a

1771
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 4: good one.

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Speaker 7: I was running the other day and I'm coming across

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01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 7: the main street, right, So I get and like, there's

1774
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 7: no cars out there, right. So here comes the car

1775
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 7: right and I'm halfway across the street and I'm like,

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01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 7: he ain't slowing down. So I stopped and he just

1777
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 7: kept going and his window was half down, and I go, thanks, buddy,

1778
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 7: and he's like he bumped his brakes and he turns

1779
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 7: and there was another person on the corner.

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Speaker 4: I go, yeah, that guy's essential.

1781
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 2: That's another great moment. Yeah, that was kind of anticlimactic.

1782
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 4: I missed the punchline.

1783
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 7: What happened, Paul, I don't remember, you said, Yeah, I

1784
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 7: don't remember what I said.

1785
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 4: This was that was COVID. Oh I haven't run since COVID. Yeah,

1786
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 4: obviously I.

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Speaker 3: Thought the punchline was, yeah, that guy's essential, because at

1788
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 3: the time, essential workers.

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Speaker 4: That's what it was. It was only essential. Yeah, that

1790
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 4: guy's essential.

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Speaker 2: Okay, those are dark times left that one. All right,

1792
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Speaker 2: We're back. Eight Pass five hundred is the a stick

1793
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 2: and hotline. Web radio at Patriots dot Com is the

1794
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 2: email address. We'll get to some emails in a little bit.

1795
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 2: We do have some people that have been hanging on

1796
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 2: Rod's in Delaware. What's up, Rod? Rod and Delaware? Coming

1797
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:18,440
Speaker 2: in Delaware? Rod? No, Okay, you're gone. We'll go to Winchester.

1798
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 4: I don't think you're going to get this one.

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01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 2: Trevor's in Winchester. What's up, Trevor?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, good question for you with as a dad and

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01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 15: boring a football product. As we've marched in front of

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01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,560
Speaker 15: pretty much all of our fans the last four years.

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01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 15: You know, despite the opinions of coaches and our GM,

1804
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 15: how much involvement does ownership have or should they have

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01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,719
Speaker 15: with the decisions to get May on the field.

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01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 2: Okay, good question, fair question. How much involvement does ownership

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01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 2: have getting May on the field. Yeah.

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01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 6: I don't know the answer to that, but I hear

1809
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 6: what he's saying because I fight the urge myself of like,

1810
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 6: no matter what, but you, all of us have to

1811
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,560
Speaker 6: cover all seventeen of these regular season games. So I

1812
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 6: would much rather cover seventeen games of Drake May than

1813
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 6: not seventeen games of Drake May. And that's no offense

1814
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 6: to Jacoby pre said. It's just more entertaining for all

1815
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 6: of us. But with that being said, if I was

1816
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,719
Speaker 6: Robert Kraft, I would hope that he would say, well,

1817
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 6: I got to listen to the people, my football people

1818
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 6: in the building and look at the long term outlook

1819
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 6: of this kid's career and not rush him on it.

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01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 2: I think their involvement should begin and end with asking

1821
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 2: the question because they're curious, and that's it, and you know,

1822
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 2: what's the explanation and hopefully it's a good one or

1823
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 2: whichever where they're going, and that's it. Yeah, you don't

1824
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 2: want to ownership, you know the words meddling in football stuff,

1825
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 2: unless it's just a train wreck and you have you know,

1826
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 2: obviously you see that things are dysfunctional, then your ownership

1827
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 2: should come in and make swooping changes. But right now

1828
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 2: we're very early and everyone's tenure here. You got to

1829
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 2: give them the benefit of the doubt. But it's a

1830
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 2: fair question. I would hope if Robert Craft answers comes

1831
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 2: down and has the question, what's what's you know the

1832
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: status report? I hope he's given a clear answer to

1833
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: that question.

1834
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would hope so too.

1835
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 2: But I just and I will say that he didn't

1836
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 2: always get that with the form of regime, and that's

1837
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:22,480
Speaker 2: one of the problems.

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01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 6: Respect You just gotta fight the urge of our entertainment,

1839
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 6: As much as it might matter to certain people in

1840
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 6: this building, is not the most important thing for Drake

1841
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 6: may in his long term development, and will all be

1842
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 6: much happier if they, you know, take their time with

1843
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 6: him and then he ends up being an MVP quarterback

1844
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 6: because of it, will all be much happier in the

1845
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 6: long run.

1846
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 2: Let's see Rod and Delaware's back. I don't know what

1847
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 2: happened last time, but what's up Rod?

1848
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 11: Yes?

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01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: Good, good?

1850
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 11: So two questions. Is there any chance that lady in

1851
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 11: Robinson beats All's Didney so so the start and left

1852
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 11: guard spot this year? And is there any chance that

1853
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 11: Kashan Boody earns more playing than Javon Baker this year?

1854
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 2: I think there's a chance for both same.

1855
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not so sure about the second one.

1856
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, less the second one, but there's a chance.

1857
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 6: There's always a chance.

1858
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 5: I think there is, especially with what Paul described earlier.

1859
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 5: I think there is a chance for Booty to go

1860
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 5: out there and do that. Like if Booty has a

1861
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 5: better body language and he takes advantage of the reps that.

1862
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 7: He has, you never know, Yeah, I would say that

1863
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 7: it's more because I don't like what I've seen from

1864
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 7: Baker and the things that I'm talking about and thinking

1865
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 7: about are things that I would think are really glaring

1866
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 7: to coaches. Yeah, and that can affect your playing time.

1867
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: What about Leyden Robinson.

1868
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 6: He's looked good. You know, it's been against twos and

1869
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 6: threes in these preseason games. You know, he's moving guys

1870
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 6: in the third and fourth quarter of a preseason game.

1871
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 6: So I'm trying not to get too excited. But he

1872
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 6: did get some reps with the ones yesterday. The problem

1873
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 6: is he doesn't play tackle. So the five best guys

1874
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 6: that they have, four of them guards are guards. Well

1875
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 6: it's right or interior lineman. So's the That's the bummer

1876
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 6: is if one of those guys. And I'll just say

1877
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,839
Speaker 6: it again, I've been saying it about Big Mike forever,

1878
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 6: but he told us the other day he's three hundred

1879
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 6: and fifty pounds, Mike Onwenu. He's not playing tackle at

1880
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 6: three hundred and fifty pounds, and usually when a player

1881
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 6: comes out and offers his weight, you can add ten

1882
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 6: or fifteen pounds of three hundred's issue. Yeah, so he's

1883
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 6: not playing tackle at that size. So as much as

1884
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 6: I think laden Robinson's might might be one of their

1885
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 6: five best guys. Configuring it to get him on the

1886
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 6: field is going to be complicated because City SO is

1887
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 6: also one of their best five guys. And if neither

1888
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 6: one of SO or when who can play tackle, then

1889
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 6: someone is going to the bench.

1890
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I hope that answers your question. Rod David Main

1891
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 2: writes in hypothetically, let's say May flat out beats Jacoby

1892
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 2: for the starting job. All the coaches agreed, Drake is

1893
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 2: our quarterback one. Is there a chance they cut Jacoby

1894
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 2: like they did with Cam? Take away the crutch and

1895
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 2: tell May we are all in. That would explain why

1896
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: Zappi is still sticking around. What is Jacoby costing? Like

1897
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:20,759
Speaker 2: eight million?

1898
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 4: Yea?

1899
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 2: What if you think? What do you think? Also, it's

1900
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 2: kind of funny that in April it was unanimous that

1901
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 2: May would probably sit out the majority of the season.

1902
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 2: In June it became maybe he'll sit for a few weeks.

1903
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: Now in August, maybe he'll start Week one. Is this

1904
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 2: because of the improvement or is this just excitement?

1905
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 6: I think some of us were always there in April,

1906
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 6: and these people that told you that sold you this

1907
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 6: bag of goods about him being a year. Way lie

1908
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 6: to you.

1909
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 7: I would just say, like you're going off of media,

1910
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 7: like we don't know what we're talking about, and saying

1911
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 7: that about myself as well as anybody else in the

1912
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 7: most respectful way. They're the ones with the information, the

1913
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 7: coaches have, have what.

1914
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 4: In mind, what they they think.

1915
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 7: Evan in April wanted Drake May from the start. Other

1916
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 7: guys listen to what is being there being told and

1917
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 7: they say it's probably going to be a year, and

1918
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 7: then they sort of adjust based on the different.

1919
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 4: Things, like if.

1920
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 7: You don't think if you listen, I'm saying, like, why

1921
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 7: are you listening to But if you listen.

1922
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 2: To this show and didn't listen to us, but listen

1923
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 2: to our callers, you would think Drake May shouldn't even

1924
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 2: have been drafted in the first round.

1925
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 7: Oh god, if we want wanting to get my little

1926
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 7: list out again. No one wanted them, nobody liked, especially

1927
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 7: the people from North Carolina.

1928
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 6: But I was just about to say I wasn't going

1929
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 6: to go. I already picked enough fights with the people

1930
01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 6: from North Carolina. My my grip are with people that

1931
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 6: should have known better in the media. Dan Orlovsky right,

1932
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 6: those types of people, those are where my grapes are

1933
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 6: because you make me look like I don't know what

1934
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 6: I'm talking about, because you're telling me that he's two

1935
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 6: years away when I'm saying, it's just it was never.

1936
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 6: He was never two years away. It was it just

1937
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 6: these people like Orlovsky, who I like a lot, and

1938
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 6: I know I'm picking on him, but I like him.

1939
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 6: I do really like his analysis. But they were going

1940
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:32,440
Speaker 6: over Drake May's film and looking at every micro detail

1941
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 6: of his footwork and saying that this is no good

1942
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 6: and it is gonna be years away from being fixed.

1943
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 6: They've already fixed a lot of his issues with his

1944
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 6: footwork and one off season. You know it just why

1945
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 6: we they thought that these like little things like you

1946
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 6: know he took a three step drop here instead of

1947
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 6: a five step drop, or you know his feet come

1948
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 6: together here when he needs to have a more sturdy,

1949
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 6: you know, wider balanced base, like these are all little things.

1950
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 6: Did he check the macro level boxes? Yes, the micro stuff.

1951
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 6: You have private quarterback coaches, you have Alex van Pelt,

1952
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 6: you have TC McCartney, you have all these guys that

1953
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 6: are here for the last six months working with the kid, like,

1954
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 6: he's obviously going to get better at timing up his

1955
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 6: drops with the routes, Like that's why you're not going

1956
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 6: to play him for an entire year is because his

1957
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 6: three step drop doesn't sync up to the deep curl

1958
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 6: route that he has along the sideline. Like those types

1959
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 6: of things were what everybody was nitpicking about with him

1960
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 6: in the draft, and now you see, okay, there's been

1961
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 6: progress in these things, and now we're talking about him

1962
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 6: starting week one, not just sitting out an entire year.

1963
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 2: Yep. Jordan and Hawaii writes in I saw a clip

1964
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 2: yesterday of Tom Brady talking to Steven A about the

1965
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: development of quarterbacks in the league currently, and he says

1966
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 2: something to the effect about how he disagrees with how

1967
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:57,560
Speaker 2: quarterbacks are being developed now and forced to play early.

1968
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 2: They being the new quarterbacks aren't learning programs anymore, they

1969
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 2: are learning playbooks. But wanted to know if you guys

1970
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 2: agree with this point, and what is the difference between

1971
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 2: learning a program versus learning a playbook.

1972
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think what he was talking about. I watched

1973
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 6: the clip and he mentioned that all the time that

1974
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 6: he had to sit at Michigan and learn and earn

1975
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 6: his way to the starting role, and then he comes

1976
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 6: here and he sits his rookie year and again he

1977
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 6: has to earn the starting role. That he really matured

1978
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 6: from the start of the time he got to Michigan

1979
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,560
Speaker 6: to when he got on the field with the Patriots

1980
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 6: in his second season, you know, football wise, you know,

1981
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 6: reading coverages, mentally, all that.

1982
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 2: Guarantee if he could have started right away, he would

1983
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 2: have loved to start right away.

1984
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, because Peyton will say the opposite. So Peyton says

1985
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 6: that he learned from playing right away, Brady's saying he

1986
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 6: learned from sitting. So I kind of just say that

1987
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 6: it's kind of a wash, like each guy's going to

1988
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 6: think their experience was the right way of doing things.

1989
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 7: But I hope we get to continue to hear some

1990
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 7: of this stuff from Brady when he's doing it for

1991
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 7: real for Fox the Analysis. But does he kind of

1992
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 7: strike you as I get off my lawn guy. I mean,

1993
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 7: it seems like he's complaining about, you know, the ruination

1994
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 7: of well of everything since he stopped playing.

1995
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: There was the whole jag he went on like a

1996
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 2: year ago about the defenses. Now he feels bad for

1997
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 2: them because they're not allowed to do anything anymore like

1998
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 2: he was can't quarterback. He was advocating for defenses. In

1999
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 2: other words, us a quarterback.

2000
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

2001
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:32,600
Speaker 7: You know, he talks a lot about you know, quarterbacks

2002
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 7: throwing receivers into danger and you know, all that kind

2003
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 7: of stuff, which I saw him do a thousand times. No,

2004
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 7: I mean, it happens. What are you gonna do? I

2005
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 7: saw Peyton Maning do it a million times too. Like

2006
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 7: when you throw the ball to slot receivers crossing the field,

2007
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 7: sometimes they're gonna get lit up.

2008
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes they're going to be hospital balls. It happens.

2009
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 7: But I just feel like Brady in particular, when he's

2010
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 7: talking about the game, it's, you know, these systems that

2011
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 7: they that they learned now was so much easier. I

2012
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 7: don't know, guy, like what you have, but out of

2013
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 7: the game that long, is it that much different?

2014
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 5: I also feel like the style of quarterback is just

2015
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 5: so much different. I don't know when if we are

2016
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 5: ever going to have another Tom Brady like pocket passer

2017
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 5: only anymore.

2018
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's just rare. The passing game is

2019
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 6: different than when he started playing, obviously, but he talks

2020
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 6: about it being worse, and like, I think that they've

2021
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 6: just made it more efficient. We've just evolved, you know.

2022
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 6: And and the schemes are just different now than what

2023
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 6: he were when he first started his style.

2024
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:33,679
Speaker 2: There was more on him than in these styles of offenses. Right.

2025
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 2: It's trying that you're trying to make it easier for

2026
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 2: the quarterback these days, right, because there aren't enough good quarterbacks.

2027
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 6: It's it's also just it's the hardest position to play

2028
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 6: on the field. So the easier that you can make it,

2029
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 6: the better the quarterback is probably going to play. I

2030
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 6: still love Oh yeah, no, And he.

2031
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 4: Would know obviously, like he's talking about, you know, the

2032
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 4: learning playbooks and not program but you know who he

2033
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 4: reminds what he's talking. He reminds me of you gonna

2034
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 4: say Ted Williams.

2035
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, do I speak Fred or do I speak Fred?

2036
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 2: Ted Williams? I was like Ted Williams was the same

2037
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 2: way he got out of playing baseball, you know. But

2038
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 2: but he got out of playing baseball and he didn't

2039
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 2: go into broadcasting, but he went into coaching. And he

2040
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 2: couldn't understand why these young guys.

2041
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 4: Couldn't couldn't hit the way he did, Right, you know.

2042
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 6: Hit four hundred in the season. Yeah, it's so easy.

2043
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the splinter Splinter Junior from Minneapolis.

2044
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 4: What was Ted Williams like Fred You you probably saw

2045
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 4: him play?

2046
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, sure, I remember when he was a kid.

2047
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 4: You know the kid.

2048
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you play though a little bit. Yeah, when I

2049
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 2: was young, it was yazz bread. They had like this

2050
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 2: really bad white bread that they would sell, yazz bread

2051
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 2: and strong.

2052
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2053
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 2: Oh that was back days of Rico Petricelli and Tony

2054
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 2: Knigly Arrow and you know it was great.

2055
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 4: Evan's mocking you right now, you know that, right, I

2056
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 4: don't care he's mocking you.

2057
01:31:57,400 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 2: I know I'm old.

2058
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 6: Now tell me I really liked you know, my great

2059
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 6: uncle he passed away at ninety six. So he saw

2060
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 6: a ton of baseball and he was a huge baseball guy.

2061
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2062
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 6: So I used to talk about him all the time,

2063
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 6: about DiMaggio and sure.

2064
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 2: This is like three second grade. So I was living

2065
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 2: in Providence back then.

2066
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, rooting for Red.

2067
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 2: Sox Yeah okay, yeah, and you know they were on

2068
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 2: Channel six.

2069
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 4: I think they want oh I remember that.

2070
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 2: I don't know whatever whatever it was.

2071
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:29,719
Speaker 4: But we love New England.

2072
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Junior Minneapolis is what are the odds are

2073
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 2: starting O line includes Caden Wallace and Leyden Robinson by

2074
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 2: the end of the season.

2075
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 4: I think that's pretty good.

2076
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 6: I think pretty good both of them.

2077
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,320
Speaker 4: I made the comment during the broadcast the other day.

2078
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 7: That's when Andy texted me and told me just.

2079
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 4: Just stop, just stop something. The offensive lineman.

2080
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 6: I think Caden Wallace is close. Uh some issues to

2081
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 6: work out with his hand place men stuff still, but

2082
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 6: nothing that can't be coached up by the strike system. Paul, I.

2083
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 7: Have a question for you on offensive line because I'm

2084
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 7: going to go to you Badar's not here, so I

2085
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 7: have to go to someone who pretends you come to me.

2086
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 2: I go to.

2087
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 4: Chooks a corps for from my very layman. Don't don't

2088
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 4: look just I know, I'm being like, I don't want,

2089
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 4: I don't watch all the technique. I don't. Yeah, he

2090
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 4: seems a little light for me.

2091
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a really good that's a really uh good

2092
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 6: way of putting.

2093
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 7: He's tall, he's athletic, he is sure, he moves reasonably well,

2094
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 7: and he's tall, but I don't know if he has

2095
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 7: enough sand in his pants.

2096
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 6: I would call him a linear build to put it nicely,

2097
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 6: Strike so we were talking about this on our way

2098
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 6: out to practice the other day.

2099
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 2: Was part of this.

2100
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 6: I think probably offensive line and I just want is

2101
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 6: probably listening more so.

2102
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

2103
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,679
Speaker 6: Belichick and Nick Saban used to have this thing about

2104
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 6: lineman where the people used to ask them, I'm like,

2105
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,679
Speaker 6: why do you go to a pro day to watch

2106
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 6: an offensive lineman because they're not blocking anybody, they're not

2107
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 6: in pads, Like what's the point? And they were dead

2108
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 6: serious and they say that they're there to look at

2109
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 6: their butts. They they're there to look at the prosterior.

2110
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 7: So I know you're young, right, Yes, do you remember

2111
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:19,839
Speaker 7: a guy the Patriots had named Pat Harlow?

2112
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 11: No?

2113
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 7: Do you remember Pet Harlow? Fred the first round tackle.

2114
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 7: He's a really good player.

2115
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 4: He was very angular.

2116
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, when Parcels came in, they didn't love them because

2117
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 7: of that, because everything Belichick.

2118
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 6: Did it was Parcels. Yeah.

2119
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 7: So that that's a thing for those guys that there's

2120
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:43,479
Speaker 7: like a look and a body type that.

2121
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 2: They want, that bubble they would prefer.

2122
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 6: Yeah. So when I look at Chukes, I just see

2123
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 6: a very narrow, linear athlete and he's high cut, so

2124
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 6: he doesn't have a ton of sand in his pants.

2125
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 6: And he also plays really up up top, really high,

2126
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 6: and you can't move anybody because he does, He's got

2127
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 6: no natural leverage.

2128
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:05,599
Speaker 4: Wallace does not have that problem.

2129
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 6: By Wallace is the opposite. Wallace has got a nice

2130
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 6: broad base too well.

2131
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 2: I mean, going back to Tyrone Smith, he doesn't you know,

2132
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 2: he's not as wide down low as a lot of guys.

2133
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 2: But he's no. I mean, he's just he's such a

2134
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 2: great athlete.

2135
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:20,960
Speaker 4: And he's really big though.

2136
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 2: He's huge, and his arms are so long, like he

2137
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 2: gets that hand in your chest and it's over. It's over.

2138
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 6: If you're going to have the bill that Jukes has,

2139
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,600
Speaker 6: you have to have a really good lower body flexibility

2140
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 6: because you have to be able to bend. And if

2141
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 6: you can bend, then you can create those leverage points.

2142
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 6: And you're fine with him. I just see him playing

2143
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 6: too tall, and he said it after the first game,

2144
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 6: So I'm not like saying anything that that is out

2145
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 6: of line. Like he he mentioned to Yeah, he thought

2146
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 6: he was playing too high in the opener against Carolina.

2147
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 6: If you if you're constantly playing that tall, you're not

2148
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 6: going to move anybody, like you're gonna have no power.

2149
01:35:56,760 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 6: So that that's what I've seen with him in Kendon

2150
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 6: Wallace next to on window. Now that would they would

2151
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 6: move people, you know, that would that would be a

2152
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 6: nice combination there.

2153
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 7: And I brought it up just you know, if you

2154
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 7: could get maybe those guys aren't ready to be you know,

2155
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 7: they're not better than their the guys they're backing up now.

2156
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,560
Speaker 7: But maybe if you got to middle the middle of October,

2157
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 7: you know, with Robinson and Wallace, you know, and all

2158
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 7: of a sudden they're like, you know what, these guys

2159
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:24,679
Speaker 7: have made up that ground.

2160
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 4: Now it's time.

2161
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 7: I think that would be a really positive development for

2162
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 7: the young offensive line. And you know, I don't know

2163
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 7: where so is. I thought, I think he's been a

2164
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 7: little up and down in camp. I don't and I

2165
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 7: think again, I don't watch every one on one.

2166
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 2: I know you're watching even when you see it.

2167
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 7: But I do see him coming in and out at

2168
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 7: times like has been going in yeah, you know, and

2169
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 7: it's for him. You know, they're not taking a wine now.

2170
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 7: I don't think any has been great in this camp either.

2171
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 6: He started out.

2172
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 2: But that's the biggest thing. You talked about it earlier,

2173
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 2: Evan is let's say Leydon Robinson is good even if

2174
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 2: you wanted to kick so over to the right side

2175
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 2: and move on when you have what to tackle. You're

2176
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 2: saying right now, he's too heavy to play tackle.

2177
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 6: That's my thought. And this is a complete tinfoil hat conspiracy.

2178
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,759
Speaker 6: But I do wonder if he doesn't want to play tackle,

2179
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 6: and so.

2180
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:26,480
Speaker 13: If Ah's advotaging himself, not directly in the buffet line.

2181
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 6: But I wonder if he's thinking to himself. You know,

2182
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 6: he said to us that he just wants to be

2183
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,719
Speaker 6: locked into one position, whether it's right tackle or right guard.

2184
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 6: He doesn't necessarily care, but he doesn't. He doesn't want

2185
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 6: to keep flopping every single year and moving all over

2186
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 6: the place. So I feel like he almost took matters

2187
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 6: into his own hands. And again this is just me

2188
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 6: thinking that maybe he took matters into his own hands

2189
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 6: and is like, I'm gonna play guard, yeah, and I'm

2190
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 6: gonna come in at three hundred and seventy five pounds.

2191
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 6: So when they asked me to go play tackle, it's

2192
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 6: not gonna look pretty, so they're gonna move me in.

2193
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 2: It knows Yeah, let's see, this is Joe writing in.

2194
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 2: I feel if you're expecting something of this team, then

2195
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:12,599
Speaker 2: may starting week one is important. Otherwise, I don't think

2196
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 2: it's that detrimental to have him miss out on three

2197
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 2: to five games. I do agree you'll learn more by doing. However,

2198
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 2: I don't think trying to play or do things in

2199
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 2: general without the necessary prerequisite talent learning period could put

2200
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 2: you into a place where you're wasting your time and

2201
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 2: practicing bad habits. Along those lines, I think playing behind

2202
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: an offensive line that is below reasonable standards could similarly

2203
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 2: develop bad habits and or make the reps he's getting

2204
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 2: in games significantly less valuable, if not harmful. And he

2205
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 2: also says, is Paul losing weight, he's looking good?

2206
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 4: No, but thank you, I look good. I heard that part.

2207
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 6: You worry about the David Carr syndrome. This now, David

2208
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 6: Garko sacked seventy five times.

2209
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:05,719
Speaker 4: I believe it's still a record.

2210
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't know if.

2211
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence his rookie season obviously bad coaching. He had

2212
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,400
Speaker 5: a horrible offensive line, among other things. He got sacked

2213
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,480
Speaker 5: a lot and made a ton of mistakes.

2214
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I mean he's.

2215
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 5: Still here, not saying he's one of the best.

2216
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 7: Best habit thing is something that you need to see,

2217
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,120
Speaker 7: Like you always say, I need to see what it

2218
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 7: looks like. Fred, you always say that before you can

2219
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 7: never give an opinion. Yeah, I know you're right about

2220
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 7: that though, Like you need to see it, Like is

2221
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 7: he getting bruised and battered and then you know he's

2222
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 7: chucking and ducking that that's the bad habits that you say, Okay,

2223
01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 7: we've passed the point of diminishing returns here, Like the

2224
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 7: experience he's getting is being aweighed by him, not really

2225
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:53,679
Speaker 7: you know, going through his reads and progressions and doing

2226
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 7: what he's supposed to do because he's worried about where.

2227
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 4: The next hits coming from. And we've seen it.

2228
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:00,760
Speaker 7: I know this is going to sign like blasphe me,

2229
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 7: I saw it happened to Tom Brady, so it happens

2230
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 7: to everybody. It's a it's a problem for everybody.

2231
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 6: Sure Brady did not want to get hit at the

2232
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 6: end of his career.

2233
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 7: Remember that game that that that Sunday night game in

2234
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 7: Detroit that year for Patricia and he just like went

2235
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 7: back and he just threw one up like it was

2236
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 7: a punt to Courtney Patterson that right down the middle

2237
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 7: of the field.

2238
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 4: Just a punt, like you see how he was feeling anymore.

2239
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:26,600
Speaker 4: Remember remember he threw the helmet of Jerry Body on

2240
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 4: the sideline, just threw his helmet up in the air.

2241
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you knew how Brady was feeling by the number

2242
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 2: of throws he would throw away.

2243
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:36,560
Speaker 4: Because I just I'm not taking this hit anymore.

2244
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 2: Emery writes, And he said, Paul, your comment, your comment

2245
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:42,920
Speaker 2: on pulling Drake may if he doesn't do well, is

2246
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 2: quite timely. Belichick was on McAfee yesterday commenting on the

2247
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 2: possibility of bow Nicks starting and then being pulled, and

2248
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 2: he said, I think that just creates a lot of confusion.

2249
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 2: I really don't think that's what you want to do. Well,

2250
01:40:57,640 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 2: you don't want to know.

2251
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 6: I would totally agree with that. I would lay rich

2252
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 6: coming from him, but I.

2253
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 7: Would agree with Belichick on that's not what you want

2254
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 7: to do. I just don't think you can't do it right.

2255
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 7: And by the way, Kevin, go ahead, but.

2256
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 6: A contradictory statement.

2257
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 4: He did it.

2258
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did it to Max. I know. The two

2259
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 2: example he used is interesting because Tua just went on

2260
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 2: LeBatard and said that the whole situation he went through

2261
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 2: degraded his confidence greatly, and it took a new coach

2262
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:27,639
Speaker 2: two years to build it back up.

2263
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:30,720
Speaker 4: For those reasons, because the coach was constantly telling him

2264
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 4: he sucked.

2265
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 6: I saw that interview that was a little different.

2266
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 4: It's a little different, is tell me.

2267
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 2: For those reasons, I don't think pulling may would be

2268
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:39,880
Speaker 2: a good idea.

2269
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:41,800
Speaker 4: I don't think it would be a good idea either.

2270
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 7: I'm just telling you. It's like, don't pretend that you

2271
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 7: can never put him in, because I can't ever take

2272
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 7: him out once I put him in.

2273
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all I'm saying.

2274
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 7: You don't have to wait three years until you're one

2275
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 7: thousand percent sure. I'm never going to take him out.

2276
01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 7: Like if you put him in and you were wrong,

2277
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 7: five weeks later, you could take them out.

2278
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 6: Yeah. This situation reminds me the most of Miami, and

2279
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 6: I know two had the injury coming into the NFL,

2280
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 6: so it's not exactly apples to apples, But they had

2281
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 6: Fitzpatrick who was like a locker room favorite, veteran mentor,

2282
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 6: very good. Yeah, and much like much more of a

2283
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 6: comparison than Green Bay in Kansas City, who had Aaron

2284
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 6: Rodgers and Alex Smith, and it was a totally different

2285
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 6: situation what they have here. And by week seven or

2286
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 6: week eight it was Tua.

2287
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:30,879
Speaker 4: Like they were having some success.

2288
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:33,640
Speaker 6: Yeah. I think Fitzpatrick started the first six games, then

2289
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 6: they had the bye and then Tua was the quarterback

2290
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 6: coming out of the bye week for the rest of

2291
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 6: the season. So to me that that's the most app

2292
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 6: comparison for what's going on here. Yeah, is Miami with Tua.

2293
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 6: I guess you could also say like the Chargers with

2294
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 6: Herbert and Tyrod, But Tyrod had the lung situation with

2295
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:52,640
Speaker 6: the needle, so it's not like that one was it

2296
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 6: took its own turn. But maybe that one.

2297
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:58,639
Speaker 2: Would be that situation with Fitzpatrick was actually winning games.

2298
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, there are three toa did no not.

2299
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 2: When he finally got in. But I'm like a lot

2300
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 2: of players in that locker room wanted Fitzpatrick to keep playing.

2301
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he had people. It was divided, Yeah, a

2302
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 6: little bit, but it was always going to be too.

2303
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 4: I don't think it was handled well if that's who

2304
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 4: you're getting at a transition, I don't think. I don't know.

2305
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 2: I just think it's a little I think I don't

2306
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 2: expect Jacobe Brissette to go out and start winning games

2307
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 2: this year. I would be so happy if that happened.

2308
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 2: I just don't see that.

2309
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 7: But I think the point that I would take from

2310
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 7: it another way, even if Brissette does win some games

2311
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 7: and he's like four and four and then you all

2312
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 7: of a sudden you think, well, you know what this

2313
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:41,879
Speaker 7: kid is, just him, he's lightening it up in practice.

2314
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 4: He's ready. I don't care what the record is, make

2315
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 4: the move because he's the guy.

2316
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kelly in Salt Lake City. Crazy hypothetical here.

2317
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 4: Can you hold on for a second.

2318
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:56,600
Speaker 7: Now, if Perset went out and was like eight no

2319
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 7: and lighten it up, I wouldn't just make the move

2320
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 7: because it makes the guy that's a little different.

2321
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 2: Parrillo says, No matter what, you know what I mean.

2322
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 4: Like if I mean that never happens.

2323
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:09,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like if you're five hundred and that's exceeding expectations

2324
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 7: at five hundred, I can still make the move.

2325
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

2326
01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:16,639
Speaker 2: Crazy hypothetical here, But say Judon played the whole season

2327
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 2: on his deal in Atlanta and hits free agency next year,

2328
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 2: would you be open to the Patriots attempting to re

2329
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 2: sign him? As anyone ever traded a player, gotten a

2330
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 2: pick taken and taking that pick and then re signed

2331
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 2: the player after Uh, they got to pick for it.

2332
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 2: In other words, to use the third to get him back.

2333
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, they're saying, no, we need to

2334
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 6: trade and then in free agency as a free agent

2335
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 6: for nothing.

2336
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 2: So then what does the pick have to do with that?

2337
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2338
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 6: You just got to pick back.

2339
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 4: In other words, you got a third round pick in

2340
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 4: you kept the player.

2341
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, after.

2342
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:51,719
Speaker 5: This, I just don't know if he would come back here.

2343
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 7: I don't think that's a possibility, but I'm sure it

2344
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 7: has happened at some point. Probably someone probably said, you

2345
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 7: know what, we're gonna I think it happens in baseball

2346
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 7: more than.

2347
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 2: What did you think about his comment, jud On, I

2348
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 2: haven't earned anything here, I'm going.

2349
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 5: To play on that current He said that here he

2350
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 5: was going to play on his contract.

2351
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 6: He's just disgruntled about it. Yeah, that's the way I

2352
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:12,000
Speaker 6: read it.

2353
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 5: The only thing I didn't like about his interviews this

2354
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 5: week was how the Patriots never had an in person

2355
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:21,639
Speaker 5: conversation with him. That's crazy. I just like your own

2356
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 5: player who's here in the building. You didn't take the

2357
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 5: time to talk to him in person, and you were

2358
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:25,759
Speaker 5: texting him.

2359
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 6: I don't think they wanted the player like.

2360
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 5: I just that's just crazy.

2361
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 4: I'm going to be surprised by the way if he

2362
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:35,799
Speaker 4: doesn't get a contract. I won't tell you that I'm demanding,

2363
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 4: you know, I'm guaranteeing it, But if he plays on

2364
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 4: the current deal, I will be surprised.

2365
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 6: This whole thing was always headed to him being traded,

2366
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 6: which is we talked about it briefly at the beginning

2367
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 6: of the show. I would have traded him in March

2368
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:51,679
Speaker 6: because I would have taken the asset in this draft.

2369
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,040
Speaker 6: But I just feel like we were always headed to

2370
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 6: this point like he was never going to be here

2371
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,679
Speaker 6: long term. They were never going to sign a thirty

2372
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 6: two year old pass rusher to a you know, sixteen

2373
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 6: eighteen million a year type of deal. It just doesn't

2374
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 6: make any sense for their their situation that they're in.

2375
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:11,680
Speaker 6: So I just don't see how they even if they

2376
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:13,960
Speaker 6: had sat down at a table together and tried to

2377
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 6: hash it out man to man, face to face, it

2378
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 6: just didn't really seem like he had a future here

2379
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:21,400
Speaker 6: at regardless.

2380
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:25,839
Speaker 2: I agree Alex and Raley writes in I'm with the crew.

2381
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 2: We all want to see May play. May's point of

2382
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:32,799
Speaker 2: Mayo's point of the best way to learn is playing

2383
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:35,599
Speaker 2: in its press conference makes me wonder if he believes

2384
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 2: Drake May is going to start week one. I think

2385
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 2: the best course is to let May play. Given the

2386
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 2: ability to learn from mistakes, and I think he's got

2387
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 2: the mental toughness to get through a lot, let's start May.

2388
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 4: I would that's what I want to see. I don't think.

2389
01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 4: I don't think we will see it.

2390
01:46:56,439 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 2: All right, Brad is in Ohio? What's up, Brad?

2391
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,799
Speaker 10: Any how you got doing it today? Ladies?

2392
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 8: Hi?

2393
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 12: Lo?

2394
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 10: So anyway, I just got a couple of thoughts real

2395
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 10: quick about City So in particular, and I agree with

2396
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 10: you all again of course, like I always your teamless

2397
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 10: always know everything about our team. So City saw really

2398
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 10: paid played great last year at right guard, and you

2399
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 10: know he looked good at times at left guard. But what, Evan,

2400
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 10: do you know what his original position is?

2401
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 6: Left guard? Yeah, he played left guard in college for

2402
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 6: multiple years, started multiple started a ton of games in college,

2403
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 6: like fifty sixty games or something like that, most of

2404
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 6: them at left guard. So I don't think that it's

2405
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 6: a problem for him to transition back. If that's if

2406
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 6: that's what you're getting.

2407
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 10: At, Okay, great, that's yeah, that's the first thing I

2408
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 10: wanted to ask. And then and I was going record

2409
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 10: for liking Drake May when I called you guys back

2410
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 10: I don't know, three or four months ago, and I

2411
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:11,679
Speaker 10: was also like JJ McCarthy. And then my last question

2412
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:16,680
Speaker 10: or inside here, Fred asked me why I felt like

2413
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 10: we should start Drake May week six once when I

2414
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 10: called you guys, you know, a few months ago, and

2415
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 10: the more I thought about it was, but the more

2416
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:32,560
Speaker 10: you look at it, the way our team structured, you

2417
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:37,599
Speaker 10: get through that gauntlet of the defensive and then by

2418
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:40,639
Speaker 10: then we should know what kind of offensive line play

2419
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 10: we have. By then, you know, be fixed on a

2420
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 10: certain group, and then also know what kind of receiver

2421
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 10: play we're going to have to help compliment him, and

2422
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:53,880
Speaker 10: let that be the deciding factor whether or not we

2423
01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:57,680
Speaker 10: decide to put him in. You know, I think he

2424
01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:01,240
Speaker 10: should wait at least a month just to get through

2425
01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 10: that gauntlet of difficult games. But after that, I mean,

2426
01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:09,640
Speaker 10: if there's no upside and you know, the scenes in

2427
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 10: this array and we can block halfway decent I think

2428
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 10: week six would be a great starting point for him

2429
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 10: against that.

2430
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,959
Speaker 4: Home Oh sorry, week six the Texans.

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01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:21,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, Texans.

2432
01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's a pretty good Yeah, we kind of what

2433
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 2: you're saying.

2434
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:27,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I said week five against Miami, which was just

2435
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:31,719
Speaker 6: a week before. But if that's what they end up doing,

2436
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 6: I'm not going to kill him for it is where

2437
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 6: I'm at with it, like I would have started in

2438
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 6: week one in April. Like I told, I keep saying,

2439
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 6: so it's not to me, it's not even about that.

2440
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 6: But if they say to us, you know, we're gonna

2441
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,719
Speaker 6: let them follow around Jacoby for a month. Let Jacobe

2442
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 6: show him how to go through the regular season week

2443
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:50,680
Speaker 6: and how to watch film and how to prepare for

2444
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 6: an opponent and how to get in the game plan,

2445
01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 6: and you know, we have some tough games early on

2446
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 6: in the season, and then we'll we'll turn it over

2447
01:49:57,479 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 6: to him in week five, sure, but any later than

2448
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 6: I think we're just what week is London? Week seven

2449
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 6: or seven?

2450
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2451
01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 4: I'm wondering if maybe when they get back from London, I.

2452
01:50:08,120 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 6: Want to say week seven.

2453
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 2: Joe writes in maybe it would have taken dan Arlovsky

2454
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:15,639
Speaker 2: two years to fix those things and maybe that's why

2455
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 2: Dan was such a shitty NFL player.

2456
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 4: Oh that's terrib Why don't you have to read that.

2457
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 6: I'm not going there with Dan show.

2458
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 2: Just that's what he said.

2459
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 4: I'm quoting somebody TV AM. I right, you often roll

2460
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:31,040
Speaker 4: your eyes on me, but you know what, I'm right,

2461
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 4: that was hysterical.

2462
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 2: Let's see Jack in a way.

2463
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 4: I just at that point. But I do like him.

2464
01:50:43,040 --> 01:50:45,600
Speaker 2: I know, I know the email is being funny, but

2465
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:49,000
Speaker 2: we're trying to be funny. But there is something to

2466
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 2: be said about everyone's different point of view. I mean,

2467
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:55,519
Speaker 2: Dan Orlovsky might think that way because it didn't come

2468
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:58,679
Speaker 2: as naturally to him. I don't know, like.

2469
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:03,799
Speaker 5: Quarterback, new coaching staff. Maybe just because of all the newness,

2470
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 5: there's just so much unknown that maybe that's what he

2471
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 5: said two years he.

2472
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 6: Said two years before the Patriots draft of him, this

2473
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 6: was like a pre even Oh yeah, so I think

2474
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 6: the biggest thing with him is what I was saying earlier,

2475
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 6: was that he had all of these like quarterback minutia

2476
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 6: things with his footwork and his timing in the pocket

2477
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:24,400
Speaker 6: that he needed to improve on, and a lot of

2478
01:51:24,439 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 6: people thought that that was going to take time, and

2479
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:30,720
Speaker 6: it hasn't come all the way, like he's not one

2480
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:34,599
Speaker 6: hundred percent there yet, but he has come aways from

2481
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 6: where he was at the beginning of training camp to

2482
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 6: the point now where you say, okay, well, the more

2483
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 6: reps he gets and the more he does it, he's improving.

2484
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 6: What the more reps he's getting, So he's only going

2485
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 6: to keep improving, hopefully, And now what are we waiting for?

2486
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 2: H Jacket and Arbor writes in when the Eagles rolled

2487
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:53,879
Speaker 2: out their starters against the Patriots in the joint practice

2488
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 2: last week, it was as if a battle hardened platoon

2489
01:51:57,240 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 2: of crack Marines was storming a troop of boys scouts

2490
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:03,720
Speaker 2: at their summer jamboree. How did it come to this?

2491
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 2: How did the Patriots allow their roster to deteriorate to

2492
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 2: the point where they are simply mismatched, overmatched by the

2493
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:12,639
Speaker 2: best teams in the league.

2494
01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 7: I mean, I think I wish Deuce was here because

2495
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 7: this is when we play the hits. Duce goes on

2496
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 7: a ten minute rant about the drafting in recent years,

2497
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 7: But that's I mean. The short answer is Bill Belichick

2498
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 7: and the personnel department did not do a great job

2499
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 7: over the last whatever eight.

2500
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:37,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like the lineman. They drafted linemen.

2501
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 7: Right, and they just haven't they haven't hit on enough

2502
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 7: players period. It's just because he's right, Like I thought,

2503
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 7: the defense rose up after a shaky start in that

2504
01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 7: joint practice and competed. The offense was not really competitive

2505
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:56,240
Speaker 7: at all. First offense, second offense, whatever, they were not competitive.

2506
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 4: The the difference.

2507
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:02,200
Speaker 7: In talent level on the field was not much different

2508
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 7: than it was in his really ugly.

2509
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 2: It was alarming, Yeah, it was alarming.

2510
01:53:07,439 --> 01:53:10,439
Speaker 6: It was Yeah, there's no doubt about it. And it

2511
01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:11,759
Speaker 6: really starts in the trenches.

2512
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2513
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 6: I mean the Eagles defensive line they have a brick wall.

2514
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:20,160
Speaker 6: It's just talented. I mean they have multiple first round

2515
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 6: picks on that line, you know, multiple Georgia Bulldogs on

2516
01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 6: that line, which never hurts. And also just.

2517
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 5: The three remaster of brown, Smith and Barkley, Like I

2518
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 5: had to look Dow. I was like, is that one

2519
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 5: almost forgot Sakue was even on the team. Yeah, and

2520
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 5: just to have those three, I like, I think I

2521
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:37,320
Speaker 5: forgot what the guy's name was, but he was on

2522
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 5: our pregame show.

2523
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 4: What was his name, David?

2524
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:42,400
Speaker 5: But he was like he was. Like being an Eagles

2525
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 5: person right now is like a pinch me moment to

2526
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 5: have Saquon on our team, Like he just completes their

2527
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:49,000
Speaker 5: offense and definitely is gonna make it a lot easier

2528
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 5: for Hurts.

2529
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 2: Uh Dorian the Terrapin rites in uh Am, I the

2530
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 2: only one that sees Jacobe serving Drake may better from

2531
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 2: the role of backing him up and assisting the quarter

2532
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 2: back coach breaking down drives and possessions in the game

2533
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 2: with a headset instead of taking in a live game

2534
01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 2: reps from him. I'm a believer, especially with Drake Mays

2535
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 2: skill set, that you only get better at football by playing.

2536
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:17,840
Speaker 2: He makes the old line look slightly better with his mobility,

2537
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,920
Speaker 2: Receivers seem to have more juice with him, and the

2538
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:24,559
Speaker 2: team can clearly tell he's the best quarterback. No need

2539
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 2: to hide him. Take take the good with the bad.

2540
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 6: He's gonna play.

2541
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:31,639
Speaker 4: I mean, we all believe it. I think that's where

2542
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 4: we're trending.

2543
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 2: We all agree with that.

2544
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 7: The other part about Brissett, I don't necessarily agree with Brissett.

2545
01:54:39,120 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 7: You know, it's not his job till I put a

2546
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 7: headset on and holds Drake May's hand while he plays, No,

2547
01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 7: that's not what he was brought here for. I think

2548
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 7: he is an exceptional teammate, ye exceptional teammate. I think

2549
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 7: he is in a very small percentage of guys that

2550
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:58,800
Speaker 7: would be perfect. A couple emails ago, someone suggested that

2551
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 7: they they get of him if May starts week one.

2552
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:07,040
Speaker 7: This is not a Cam Newton situation. They don't need

2553
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 7: to do that, and I think that would be doing Cam.

2554
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 2: Let's remember the personality of Cam Newton compared to Jacobe.

2555
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 6: You know it, Paul one hundred percent right about that.

2556
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 6: I do wonder, and maybe it's just water finding its

2557
01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 6: level what Jacob were said. And he was playing a

2558
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 6: little bit better for stretches in the beginning of training

2559
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:29,640
Speaker 6: camp than he actually was. But once we got to

2560
01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 6: the preseason, you know that first preseason game against Carolina

2561
01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 6: on he has not looked like the same guy. Like

2562
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 6: his accuracy has been sporadic, his timing has been off

2563
01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:41,960
Speaker 6: at times. I do wonder what happened there, you know,

2564
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 6: I don't know. Maybe he's just not very good, that's

2565
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 6: a possibility, but he was much better first, let's call

2566
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 6: it six or seven practices of pads and then the

2567
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 6: preseason started and he kind of fell off a cliff

2568
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 6: a little bit.

2569
01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, that's going to do it for this

2570
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:03,200
Speaker 2: edition of Patriots Filter. We will be back on Thursday

2571
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 2: at noon. We do have practice, so Evan will be

2572
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 2: going and he'll be back from practice.

2573
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 4: So no, he'll be going to bit to practice.

2574
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 2: Well, you'll never come back, will never see you again?

2575
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 4: Is practice?

2576
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, Thursday, so we'll have the but we'll start

2577
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 2: at noon regardless.

2578
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 4: And I'll be here to make sure Fred doesn't say

2579
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:23,520
Speaker 4: anything completely wrong.

2580
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 2: No, no, you can't stop me from doing that.

2581
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 4: That's true.

2582
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:29,760
Speaker 13: All right, Catch twenty two tomorrow, Yes, Catch twenty two

2583
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:30,720
Speaker 13: to twelve?

2584
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 6: Is that going to be twelve?

2585
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 2: Do you think Wednesdays are going to be the day

2586
01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 2: for Catch twenty two.

2587
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,800
Speaker 6: Or any Wednesday or Thursday? Where we got to find

2588
01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:41,280
Speaker 6: out from the proper channels what exactly the end season

2589
01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 6: schedule is going to look like, and then we'll figure

2590
01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 6: it out.

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