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Speaker 1: start here. How much are you enjoying coaching at the
Speaker 1: high school level.
Speaker 2: I'm loving it.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I thought, what I expected, football wise,
Speaker 3: but the amount of fun I'm having is so much
Speaker 3: more than I expected.
Speaker 1: What has changed and what remains the same as far
Speaker 1: as football is concerned. That you're coaching now compared to
Speaker 1: when you were in high school.
Speaker 3: Oh hey, film, Like we didn't have film in high school,
Speaker 3: and so now we have sideline, we have end zone,
Speaker 3: we have drone footage, We're able to watch everything from practice.
Speaker 3: So like that blows my mind for these high school
Speaker 3: kids that they have all this information available to them.
Speaker 3: But it's still x as and knows and you know,
Speaker 3: still got to get the job done. So but it's
Speaker 3: great kids, and that makes the job so much easier.
Speaker 1: What do you like most about it? You love playing
Speaker 1: and you love being in the room. But now as
Speaker 1: a coach, what do you like the most about it?
Speaker 3: I love the teaching aspect of it, you know, being
Speaker 3: able to spread the joy of football and the knowledge
Speaker 3: of it and understanding the game not just what to do,
Speaker 3: but why to do. And I think that's a big
Speaker 3: proponent of it. And you know, it's just it's it's
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. And I was very fortunate having
Speaker 3: some great coaches in high school who helped me along
Speaker 3: not only football but life in general, and so be
Speaker 3: able to get back in that same hopefully role for
Speaker 3: some of these kids. You know, it's a lot of
Speaker 3: fun too, and so it's just been it's been great experience.
Speaker 3: It's nerve wracking, yeah, because more than it is a play,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah, Okay, explaining as a player, you have final
Speaker 3: control over whether you win. A player you don't win
Speaker 3: a play, you're still in a team aspect, and it
Speaker 3: takes all eleven guys, but for your yourself personally, you
Speaker 3: have control whether or not you win. As a coach,
Speaker 3: you can lead the horse to water, but you can't
Speaker 3: make him drink the water. So you have to hope
Speaker 3: that everything that you've taught and you're drilled and done
Speaker 3: and hopefully repped multiple times sinks in and they win
Speaker 3: the play.
Speaker 2: But ultimately they have to do it. You can't do it.
Speaker 1: I find it so interesting that you're doing this now.
Speaker 1: Do you have more of a passion for coaching than
Speaker 1: he did playing or is it just a different passion.
Speaker 2: Love is the same, Love is the same. It's a
Speaker 2: different passion.
Speaker 3: I love playing there was obviously one of the greatest
Speaker 3: things I've ever done, probably other than my kids. But
Speaker 3: the coaching, like the passion of it, the exact and
Speaker 3: of it, is a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So a lot of our viewers and a lot of
Speaker 1: people are listening right now official Jets podcasts, tuning in
Speaker 1: and listening because they want to know about the Jets.
Speaker 1: I just want to speak about your relationship with the
Speaker 1: organization and how much it is meant to you over
Speaker 1: the years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously drafted here in two thousand and six,
Speaker 3: and you know, coming right out of college, moving to
Speaker 3: Strong Island when we were still at Hofstra and then
Speaker 3: making transition over to New Jersey and settling here and
Speaker 3: being a part of this team. As you know, we've
Speaker 3: made growner roots deeper and deeper here in the Flora
Speaker 3: Park area. And so it's it's been something being able
Speaker 3: to finish out my career here. I only playing for
Speaker 3: one team is something really special to me. It's a
Speaker 3: great team to be a part of. This fan base
Speaker 3: is as passionate as they come. You know, loyal is
Speaker 3: all get out and you know, dying for a winner,
Speaker 3: and you know that's something been striving since two thousand
Speaker 3: and six to hopefully, you know, bring home to to
Speaker 3: here in New York is that winner that everyone wants
Speaker 3: and deserves.
Speaker 2: Dying for a winner.
Speaker 1: That's a great transition.
Speaker 2: Right down.
Speaker 1: The Jets are three and seven after this year with
Speaker 1: so many expectations. You know, you live down the street,
Speaker 1: you were here throughout the summer, You're helping us on
Speaker 1: the content side throughout the year. How much do you
Speaker 1: empathize with the fan right now because of what's actually
Speaker 1: transpired and also with that being said, what kind of
Speaker 1: message would you have for the guys in the room
Speaker 1: right now, because there's still seven games remaining in the year.
Speaker 1: You play seventeen games, their season is not over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think so it's the duality of football
Speaker 3: where you have the fan side, the fanatics, the people
Speaker 3: that love this game live and breathe it, you know,
Speaker 3: week in and week out, and you know, with the
Speaker 3: expectations that were set at the beginning of the season,
Speaker 3: you know, through the spring, through the summer, and to
Speaker 3: be sitting where we are at three and seven as
Speaker 3: a fan is frustrating and disappointing, and you have such
Speaker 3: high hopes of where we were going. But then at
Speaker 3: the same time, as a player, you know you're still
Speaker 3: in the fight. It's not over by any means. And
Speaker 3: we had this in two thousand and nine. I want
Speaker 3: to say, you know, Rex count us out of the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Yes, infinitely. Yeah, So that well, there it goes.
Speaker 3: You know, that's the seasons it was like, oh, Rex,
Speaker 3: actually we're not mathematically eliminated.
Speaker 2: We could still make it. Lo be hold, we still
Speaker 2: made it.
Speaker 3: And so that's just that's one of the funny things,
Speaker 3: like it's not over until the math says it's over.
Speaker 3: And so the guys in the room right now, they're fighting,
Speaker 3: you know, and this is part of their struggle because.
Speaker 2: They want a winner.
Speaker 3: Maybe not so much the same reasons that fans as
Speaker 3: Jets fans, but they want to winter because it's a business.
Speaker 3: They want to do their job. They want to do
Speaker 3: their job to the best of their ability. And so
Speaker 3: you're playing for twofold. You're playing for the name on
Speaker 3: the front of the jersey obviously, so you can get
Speaker 3: the awards and the accolations and everything, but you're also
Speaker 3: playing for the name on the backyard jersey, right and
Speaker 3: you know, whether you're here next year or you're somewhere else,
Speaker 3: someone's gonna turn on the film and be like, hey, listen,
Speaker 3: you were in dire streets at three and seven. What
Speaker 3: did you do and did you play to the best
Speaker 3: of your ability or did you fold up and call
Speaker 3: it quits? Because if you folded up call it quits,
Speaker 3: we're not going to give you another job. So I
Speaker 3: think that's the tough part is that you know the
Speaker 3: players are are fighting tooth and nail to get the
Speaker 3: job done, and you know, unfortunately, you know, sometimes it
Speaker 3: doesn't work out the best way, and you know, that's
Speaker 3: where you end up at three and seven, where the
Speaker 3: fans are like, well it's all doom and gloom.
Speaker 2: You know, they're not even trying, and like, that's just
Speaker 2: not the case, that's right.
Speaker 1: And I was talking to Bart about this the other
Speaker 1: day when we taped our first podcast this week, and
Speaker 1: he said that guys can press in terms of they
Speaker 1: want to do so much that maybe they're taking on
Speaker 1: a different role or responsibility as opposed to maybe just
Speaker 1: handling them what they have to And can you speak
Speaker 1: to that is the guy who's to pivot for so
Speaker 1: long that you need eleven on.
Speaker 2: The same page.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need eleven on the same page. And I
Speaker 3: think the big thing is when you guys try to
Speaker 3: do too much, they lose sight of the job that
Speaker 3: they're supposed to do by themselves. And you know, and
Speaker 3: it really comes down to, you know, the guys that
Speaker 3: are working closely next year. So you know, maybe a
Speaker 3: left guard it's like, hey, listen, I need to help
Speaker 3: out my left tackle more than I think I do.
Speaker 3: And so now he's trying to his mind, he's thinking about, hey,
Speaker 3: let me help the left tackle, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: now his plague is diminish because he's now thinking about
Speaker 3: something else other than just playing left guard.
Speaker 2: And you can go down the line.
Speaker 3: You can look at the tight end being like, hey, listen,
Speaker 3: I got to hit this route the right way because
Speaker 3: you know, I need to be here for the quarterback.
Speaker 3: But then you know if he's only thinking about the routes,
Speaker 3: and now he's like, oh, well, but my run blocking
Speaker 3: has gone down because I'm not thinking about my run blocking.
Speaker 3: So you start to you know, when you're looking for answers,
Speaker 3: you know when you're going through a rough spell, and
Speaker 3: you know, the biggest thing you need to do is
Speaker 3: just go back to the fundamentals. Do my job and
Speaker 3: trust to the guy. Next means going to do his job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's not sexy for the fan, and you
Speaker 1: get that too, because they do want to see ultimately
Speaker 1: the winner. But this is a process oriented business, right
Speaker 1: like you have to take care of the process. You
Speaker 1: have to put one foot before the other. How difficult
Speaker 1: was it for you? This is a different time. I'm
Speaker 1: older than you, but you played in a different era.
Speaker 1: Do you think how difficult was it for you at
Speaker 1: times to ignore the noise externally, if at all? And
Speaker 1: how difficult. Do you think it is for these guys now?
Speaker 1: And how do you kind of put a force field up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got to be crazy difficult now. You know,
Speaker 3: when I first started, there was no such thing as
Speaker 3: social media. I think Facebook was still just for college kids,
Speaker 3: and so like, there was no it wasn't in your
Speaker 3: face every day. Fantasy football was still there, but not
Speaker 3: to the level that it is now. There were no dms,
Speaker 3: you know, and so if you wanted to cut out
Speaker 3: the noise, you just didn't buy a newspaper. And now
Speaker 3: all of a suddenly, I'm good, I'll turn on ESPN
Speaker 3: and I don't read a newspaper, Like I don't hear
Speaker 3: any noise. Now, you know, it's twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3: You know, you have your phone with you at all times.
Speaker 3: You see it, you know, come across. So it's got
Speaker 3: to be a struggle. It's got to be very difficult
Speaker 3: to tune it out. But you know, that's the world
Speaker 3: we live in. And then that's what you have to do.
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Speaker 1: We didn't know that, and I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people probably are tired of talking about the talent. But
Speaker 1: there are very good players here and we've seen it
Speaker 1: at times throughout all these games, but for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: not on a consistent level. So I guess that's the
Speaker 1: battle right now.
Speaker 3: It is and you talk to you know, you listen
Speaker 3: to Aaron talk about the last I think there's three
Speaker 3: weeks of practice being you know, some of the greatest
Speaker 3: weeks of practice that we've had, but it doesn't translate
Speaker 3: on the field, and you know, that's disappointing, and so then.
Speaker 2: You try to figure out why, like why is it
Speaker 2: not translating?
Speaker 3: And that's something that you know, I think really only
Speaker 3: the players and the coaches can can really diagnose, because
Speaker 3: the fans don't see that. They don't see what happens
Speaker 3: Monday and Saturday. They just see what happens on Sunday,
Speaker 3: and so that's difficult also for the fans to hear like, oh,
Speaker 3: we had a great week of practice, but then you know,
Speaker 3: we came out and laid an egg here.
Speaker 2: There, and you're like, well, you know, why did you
Speaker 2: do it?
Speaker 3: And so it is difficult, it's frustrating, but it's something
Speaker 3: that you know, great teams are able to work around.
Speaker 1: Do you really consider it in the NFL seventeen one
Speaker 1: game seasons, meaning that this is completely different than Major
Speaker 1: League Baseball or hockey or basketball, that you only have
Speaker 1: seventeen of these and then when you play a game
Speaker 1: like you did in Arizona where everybody was disappointed with
Speaker 1: ultimately the execution there, how quickly can you turn the page?
Speaker 3: I think that's the great thing of the NFL schedule
Speaker 3: is that you have to turn the page quickly, otherwise,
Speaker 3: you know, you're just you go into this death sprile
Speaker 3: or of like, well, well we could have would have
Speaker 3: should have? You know, we had that forget which game
Speaker 3: it was with Rex. We had a terrible game, and
Speaker 3: we came out and laid an egg and came we
Speaker 3: came back here and he was that you know, we're
Speaker 3: sitting in team meeting. He was everybody outside outside and
Speaker 3: he took the game ball from that game and buried
Speaker 3: it in the ground. It was like, we're done with that,
Speaker 3: We're moving on.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's that was a part of my French is shitty,
Speaker 3: shitty game, but we move on, and that's.
Speaker 2: What we did.
Speaker 1: That was the debacle at Giletta. I think Jimmy Lantern
Speaker 1: got hurt on the practice field Friday, and you guys
Speaker 1: went to the Patriots. I think they buried the.
Speaker 2: Ball after that, and then that probably was and then.
Speaker 1: Not too long after that, you totally flipped the script
Speaker 1: there in New England divisional playoffs beating Brady in his building.
Speaker 3: So you have you only have so many opportunities, so
Speaker 3: you have to make the most of them when you
Speaker 3: get them.
Speaker 1: We were talking before. You like Jet's young center, Joe
Speaker 1: Timm What do you like most and what's his future
Speaker 1: looking like?
Speaker 3: You know, his future looks great, you know, as long
Speaker 3: as he keeps working and keeps doing well. What I
Speaker 3: love the most is that he is a hard worker.
Speaker 3: You know, he's a tallest center at six six, I believe,
Speaker 3: but he bends well and he can move, and so
Speaker 3: I think those two things combined.
Speaker 2: You know, he's still a young guy, so we're still
Speaker 2: going to get stronger.
Speaker 3: He's still going to get as he starts to learn
Speaker 3: some of the wild vet moves and everything. I think
Speaker 3: the opportunity to be able to have Aaron behind him
Speaker 3: is giving him a great base. You know, I was
Speaker 3: able to have Chad Pennington behind me to start, and
Speaker 3: you know, Chad taught me so much about protections and
Speaker 3: you know, how to see defenses, red defenses. So to
Speaker 3: have that experience going forward, it will be a great
Speaker 3: opportunity for him.
Speaker 1: So no matter what happens in the future, invaluable experience
Speaker 1: him working with the Hall of Fame passer behind who's
Speaker 1: got twenty years experience, who's done everything, is one of
Speaker 1: the greatest players to ever play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: And I think you know, you watch Aaron on the
Speaker 3: sidelines and the way that he works with the guys.
Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't keep anything, you know, close to
Speaker 3: his vest. He talked to the guys, and you know,
Speaker 3: he's a teacher while being a coach and while being
Speaker 3: a player. Yeah, and I think that's a great thing
Speaker 3: for a lot of these young guys. You see that
Speaker 3: a lot with him and Garrett Wilson. You know, after
Speaker 3: each play practice they'll sitting back and talk about, all right,
Speaker 3: what you year, what did you do that he ran
Speaker 3: there out this way? Or throw it this way? And
Speaker 3: so I think that's invaluable for these young guys.
Speaker 1: You are proud alum of the Ohio State University. What
Speaker 1: do you what have you make? What have you taken
Speaker 1: from Garrett's development here from the time he was in
Speaker 1: c bus to now in his third year in the NFL.
Speaker 3: He's doing great, you know, proud, proud Buckeye alumnus to
Speaker 3: have Garrett here and doing what he's doing. And you know,
Speaker 3: it's great seeing him, you know, continue to find his
Speaker 3: way here and keep continuing to get better, which is awesome.
Speaker 3: You know, he's a fantastic receiver and he's a better person.
Speaker 3: So that combination, you know, here on the beloved New
Speaker 3: York Jets is a great thing.
Speaker 1: But what do you think about his talents?
Speaker 2: What sets him apart?
Speaker 1: Right now? I think he's at sixty five receptions and
Speaker 1: chase with the Bengals at sixty six, so he's right there,
Speaker 1: and then he's third or fourth and receiving.
Speaker 2: Yards right now.
Speaker 3: I think he's an act for finding the ball. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, he has the ability to go up and
Speaker 3: find the ball anywhere within that catch radius, and you know,
Speaker 3: I think that's a big you can't teach that that's
Speaker 3: just kind of a talent that you have, and so
Speaker 3: he's got one of the great talents of it.
Speaker 1: So if you're down there in the locker room, you
Speaker 1: know what the situation is, you're three and seven and
Speaker 1: you got the buy coming up, the approach to this game,
Speaker 1: specifically the Colts, and just getting one and feeling better
Speaker 1: about yourself before you get a little bit of rest
Speaker 1: and maybe the coaches have more time to take things
Speaker 1: in and do a self scout.
Speaker 3: Definitely, and I think that's a big thing. You know,
Speaker 3: you definitely want to get a win before going into
Speaker 3: the buy. It's always difficult, you know, going to buy
Speaker 3: with the loss because then you dwell on it for
Speaker 3: way too long. So getting a win would be great
Speaker 3: and then you know, finally get to take a breath.
Speaker 3: You know, we've had a wild schedule of different primetime
Speaker 3: games and you know, Thursday night games and everything. So
Speaker 3: to be able to sit back and you're like, all right,
Speaker 3: here's where we're at, here's what we do well, here's
Speaker 3: what we're not doing, so well, let's fix it and
Speaker 3: let's you know, finish out strong.
Speaker 1: With the changes, especially what happened their earl in the season,
Speaker 1: you're bringing Jeff Wallbrooke, you promote him.
Speaker 2: To head coach.
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be huge having this time for the
Speaker 1: entire staff because not only is Albrooke promoted to head
Speaker 1: coach where he's seen overseen the entire operation, but to
Speaker 1: Downey took on the play calling duties as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I think this kid's a chance for
Speaker 3: the staff to be able to sit down and be like,
Speaker 3: all right, here's here's what we're doing. Here's what we're
Speaker 3: not doing. You know this is working well, this isn't
Speaker 3: working well. You know we report this guy reports here,
Speaker 3: this guy reports there. So be able to sit down
Speaker 3: and sit back and be like, all right, we have
Speaker 3: a week. Let us really focus in on all the
Speaker 3: different things and take a deep breath and really dive
Speaker 3: into the details of what we're doing here.
Speaker 2: So you're a busy dude.
Speaker 1: You're coaching ball, you're coaching your kids' teams. They're keeping
Speaker 1: you active left and right globally. Your take on NFL
Speaker 1: so far this season, not just the Jets, but what
Speaker 1: you've seen.
Speaker 2: I think recently we've had some great games.
Speaker 3: I've been saying way too late because these oh yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, we're just just this last Monday night game,
Speaker 3: you know, coming down to the wire, the last Thursday
Speaker 3: night game coming down to the wire. So it's been
Speaker 3: it's been some fun football. As a casual observer of
Speaker 3: all all teams. It's been great to be able to
Speaker 3: turn on a game and you haven't seen too many,
Speaker 3: too many games where it's like, all right, you know,
Speaker 3: I know this team is gonna win, Like you come,
Speaker 3: you watch games like I don't know who's gonna win,
Speaker 3: Like we have to watch to find out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have to watch to find out see
Speaker 1: what happens with the Jets this weekend against the Colts.
Speaker 1: Mister Mangle, appreciate you stopping by.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Appreciate it.