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Speaker 1: with every single year, this period comes right February March April,

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Speaker 1: Time for a little thing we call the mail bag

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Speaker 1: So the thing we call the podcast, I have basically

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Speaker 1: a two part question and from two different people, but

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Speaker 1: they kind of tie into each other. Ethan said, what

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Speaker 1: are the legit chances of the of an Eagles dynasty

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Speaker 1: and or repeat? And as well as what exactly in

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Speaker 1: detail is Big Dom's job with the Birds? Is he

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Speaker 1: sort of like the fixer. Let's start with the birds

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Speaker 1: chances of a dynasty slash repeat. They have a lot

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Speaker 1: of impactful core guys under contract for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 1: So your quarterback, young under contract receivers young under contract

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Speaker 1: star running back. We'll take in the prime of his career,

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Speaker 1: as Lane's healthy. I mean star players under contract, Jalen Carter,

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Speaker 1: Nolan Smith, I mean Cooper Dejeen, Mitchell, the first round corner.

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Speaker 1: I mean the core of the team, under contract, elite

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Speaker 1: players in their prime. I saw how he mentioned that

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Speaker 1: in UH. I think in his press conference, like this's

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Speaker 1: a big difference from the twenty seventeen year, Like most

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Speaker 1: of our core guys are talking mid to late twenties,

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Speaker 1: prime of their career. So dynasty, it's hard to tell,

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Speaker 1: but I think repeat is very much on the table

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Speaker 1: now these next I don't know, fourteen days he does have,

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Speaker 1: You know, Sweat is not coming back, like Sweat will

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Speaker 1: be on a different team. But what do they let

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Speaker 1: Milton Williams walk? I think that's one's kind of interesting.

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Speaker 1: I think the Zach Vond thing is what do they

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Speaker 1: do with him? Do they try? I'm sure they're trying

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Speaker 1: to get a deal done. I mean this is the

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Speaker 1: time of his life where he could I mean this

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Speaker 1: the type of guy that could get three or four

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Speaker 1: year contract with forty fifty million dollars guaranteed. So it's

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Speaker 1: one of those where he just won the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: he got was an All Pro, Like he kind of

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Speaker 1: did what he had to do, and you know he

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Speaker 1: has a ring and an All Pro for the rest

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Speaker 1: of his life. Like now is kind of the time

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Speaker 1: to cash in. And I don't know if the Eagles

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Speaker 1: can get there financially. If people I would just say

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Speaker 1: get absurd with money. For I hate Colling a one

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Speaker 1: year wonder because his one year was so good. But

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Speaker 1: he only has one year. But some of these teams

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Speaker 1: have so much money. Did a guy like Zach Bond,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll overpay by twenty five percent whatever. Get

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Speaker 1: a high level cat who's good player, smart guy, Fangio

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Speaker 1: loves him. You want that type guy in the building.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to watch how he kind of

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Speaker 1: cook over the next couple of weeks. And then I

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Speaker 1: think the curveball that they could throw at any moment

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Speaker 1: is like they would be the team, like, yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: let all these free agents walk and then we'll trade

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Speaker 1: two first rounders and give Miles Garrett one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty guaranteed. Like the Eagles are definitely a team lingering around.

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Speaker 1: If Miles Garrett like this does come to fruition and

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Speaker 1: it's like, okay, we just got to trade him before

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Speaker 1: a free agency starts. Give us your best offers, and

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Speaker 1: you gotta work with Miles because you're gonna give him

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Speaker 1: contract extension. So I think the Eagles would be very

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00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: much in play. Plus their GM used to work in Philly.

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Speaker 1: I think Big Dom, you know, when I was around him,

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Speaker 1: I would say Big Dom fixer would be strong. You know,

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Speaker 1: guys way back in the day pre cell phones and

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Speaker 1: stuff in this I remember hearing stories of people that

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Speaker 1: were around like the Bill Walsh Eddy to Bartlow Niners

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Speaker 1: in the eighties. It'd be much easier if you know,

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Speaker 1: someone gets pulled over super drunk with a back of

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Speaker 1: cocaine and he's an All Pro NFL player in nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty seven and just make it go away. I think

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Speaker 1: some of these things are a little harder to make

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Speaker 1: hap been in the day and age of our cell

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Speaker 1: phone videos, and I would say cops with the body

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Speaker 1: camp stuff like. I'm not saying that that doesn't exist,

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Speaker 1: but I would say the league built the NFL, like

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Speaker 1: a lot of pro sports league were built on taking

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Speaker 1: care of your star players. You know, even before I

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Speaker 1: was born in the seventies. Like, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: little different now. I think Big Don plays a role

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Speaker 1: of a lot of times, people like him are viewed

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Speaker 1: as a narc. I mean, that happened with the dude

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Speaker 1: I forget his name, almost said Epstein, but not iber Fluse, whoever,

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Speaker 1: the Texans Patriot Church guy was. You know, he was

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Speaker 1: viewed as like this guy that would get in close

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Speaker 1: with the players, would be like their life coach. But

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Speaker 1: then he would go back and tell the GM or

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Speaker 1: the coach all the problems he was having. You know.

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Speaker 1: With the Eagles, I think the players are very comfortable

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Speaker 1: with when shit comes up and it's weird. He can

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Speaker 1: play this role of like psychologist meets matchmaker and just

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Speaker 1: kind of keep things together. He's like this bridge of

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Speaker 1: management and the players and just kind of keeping everything kumbaya.

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Speaker 1: He just has this way. I mean, I remember when

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Speaker 1: I was like an intern my first year making like

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Speaker 1: twenty grand didn't have health Benni's I was just doing

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Speaker 1: the stupidest tasks and I would just hang with him.

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Speaker 1: I would, you know, his office was downstairs, and I

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Speaker 1: would I didn't have an office to watch film, so

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Speaker 1: I would have to go, usually to a meeting room

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Speaker 1: and his office was down there, and he would just

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Speaker 1: tell the best. He would just He's just an easy

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Speaker 1: guy to get along with. I love the guy when

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Speaker 1: I was working him. I was texting with him during

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl run. I've never been around anyone in

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Speaker 1: that organization player coach doubt that doesn't just love dumb.

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Speaker 1: It's just one of those people that's harder to describe.

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Speaker 1: He's also very helpful, Like if you ever have questions like,

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Speaker 1: hey man, I I don't even know I'm talking like

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Speaker 1: basic things like where can I get my car fixed?

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Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I got a guy right on Seventh Street.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everything you need, he just got. And that's

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Speaker 1: the one benefit of, you know, a place like Philly.

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Speaker 1: So when you talk about quote unquote fixers, you know

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Speaker 1: Philly is well, it's one of the biggest cities in

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Speaker 1: America's still very I would say a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a throwback where everyone kind of knows everyone in certain neighborhoods,

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Speaker 1: and he's pretty tied in with a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: so he just can help a lot of people out.

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Speaker 1: And I think people, you know, you got a very

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Speaker 1: famous people on the team players now Howie and coaches

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Speaker 1: and the owner. They're just very comfortable with him handling shit.

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Speaker 1: It sounds bad, but it's not even a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff is even that bad. Just one of those guys

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00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: that you feel better when he's around. H question for

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Speaker 1: the mailbag. He also want. One thing guys like him

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Speaker 1: do is during free agency in the draft process, they

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Speaker 1: are very good at like becoming I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say a detective, but they can just accumulate information. I

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00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: would say, if you've ever watched the movie Ray Donovan

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Speaker 1: or it was a television show on Showtime, he's like

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Speaker 1: Ray Donovan, but like in an NFL world kind of

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Speaker 1: Now if I remember, I don't think Ray was necessarily

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Speaker 1: killing people, but he would clean up murders of like

607
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Speaker 1: famous people. No one's murdering anyone, but like he just

608
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: could make shit happen and would get things done, especially

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Speaker 1: sometimes in uncomfortable situations. I mean, think about in football,

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Speaker 1: you have these young guys making a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: You know. I think some stuff over the years. I

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Speaker 1: remember there being instance when I was there with players

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Speaker 1: and at the time it's like I knew all the details,

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00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: but stuff revolving females that could get weird and out

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Speaker 1: of hand. He's really good at I would say, calming

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Speaker 1: the waters with stuff like that, because you know, in

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Speaker 1: this day and age that type stuff can get really bad,

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Speaker 1: real fast. And I think he plays. I don't really

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Speaker 1: know how else to say it. And listen, I haven't

620
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Speaker 1: worked in the organization for a long time now, but

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Speaker 1: I remember hearing stories the forty nine ers had a

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Speaker 1: guy like him, in the eighties with Eddie de Bartela

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Speaker 1: and Bill Walsh. They're just you couldn't even have one

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Speaker 1: of those guys in California now, but in Philly you can.

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Speaker 1: And I would say Big Dom is an integral part.

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Speaker 1: Just what a legendary you know, He's just this big

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Speaker 1: Italian dude. Where's the sweatsuits? Big Donald's a man? Question

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Speaker 1: I'm a young football coach and coach at the high

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Speaker 1: and been around, what is the one trait that you

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Speaker 1: think is the most important for coaches at any level

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Speaker 1: to have success. That's a good question, I think too often,

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Speaker 1: and I think you could say this probably about the

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Speaker 1: television or maybe even finance, you have a huge mentor

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Speaker 1: someone you look up to and someone that you desire

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Speaker 1: to be dis like because that's the reason you want

643
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: to do what you're doing is because of them. So

644
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 1: you emulate them and you try to basically copy them.

645
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Speaker 1: And in coaching, I think you've seen like a why

646
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Speaker 1: a lot of guys fail, will use the NFL as

647
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Speaker 1: an example is people try to be Bill Belichick, right,

648
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Speaker 1: But Bill Belichick's personality is different from everyone else. And

649
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Speaker 1: I think a huge key to success as a coach.

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Speaker 1: And I've been around spent two years around Pat Hill,

651
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Speaker 1: who was an excellent coach, and obviously not just Andy,

652
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Speaker 1: but I was there around Todd Ball, Sean McDermott, Matt Naggey,

653
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, Deuce Staley, who I think is an absolute

654
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Speaker 1: stud They're very authentic and every one of our personalities

655
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Speaker 1: are different. We have different quirks. We have different emotional

656
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657
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Speaker 1: Some of us are more empathetic than others. Some of

658
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Speaker 1: us are whatever our personal characteristics are. And I think

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Speaker 1: the best coaches are just themselves, and I think any

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Speaker 1: human being when they realize and part of being a coach,

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Speaker 1: like you're doing this to try to help other people out,

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00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: to try to make a player at a high school

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00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: level a better player. And for most guys you're coaching,

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Speaker 1: that'll be the last level of football they ever play.

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Speaker 1: The last time I ever put on a helmet and

666
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Speaker 1: shoulder pads was two thousand and two. Right, there'll be

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Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of people, maybe a little smaller ninety

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00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: eight people who ever play football, and then that other

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Speaker 1: crew of guys you're trying to get improve them so

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00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: they can go off and play college football, and then

671
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: a tiny, tiny ninety percent of them, you'll be very

672
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Speaker 1: lucky as a high school coach to ever have an

673
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Speaker 1: NFL player. So like you're teaching them, but it's you,

674
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Speaker 1: so like you have to be true to yourself, don't

675
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: you can copy other people? Like I think that's a

676
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: really good drill or I think that was a really

677
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: good way to explain something in front of the room.

678
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Speaker 1: But like you have to do it your way. Think

679
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Speaker 1: about the coaches, let's just use the Let's use college too,

680
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: who are really successful. Like Dan Campbell. A lot of

681
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: people made fun of him when he got hired. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'll give Dan Campbell, He's very true

683
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Speaker 1: to himself. I think Dan Campbell is just extremely authentic

684
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: Andy Reid. Why does everyone like Andy? Andy's an LA kid.

685
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Speaker 1: I know he's lived in Philly, in Green Bay and

686
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: Kansas City now for the last thirty plus years. But

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Speaker 1: at his roots, like Andy Reid's wearing rainbow sandals, walking

688
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: around the office in shorts, like he's a California guy.

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Speaker 1: He's got a West Coast and he's very true to

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Speaker 1: that personality. It doesn't mean that you can't get mad

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Speaker 1: you think, like this is not gonna work. But I

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Speaker 1: would say authenticity in passion and if you're coaching, you're

701
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Speaker 1: Longtime fan, first time caller. What are the most important

728
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: moves the Patriots need to make to get back into

729
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs in a strong force in the AFC? It's funny.

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Speaker 1: We talk about it every single time, and all I

731
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Speaker 1: see in patriot Land is like, how do we land

732
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: t Higgins? How do we land a wide receiver? It's like, guys,

733
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Speaker 1: do we all agree that your offensive line sucks? The

734
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: easiest way to help out your young quarterback? Who I

735
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: saw Verbel say that his oldest son is older than

736
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: Drake May. He's like, God, it makes me feel old.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, this is kind of crazy. I guess Drake

738
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Speaker 1: May is what twenty one, twenty two. You know, Verbels

739
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Speaker 1: probably fifty, so you know he might have twenty two

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Speaker 1: year old kid. But I think the easiest way to

741
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: help out a quarterback improve the offensive line, get a

742
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: tight end in a running back. And if you look

743
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: at this draft and you look at the free agent class,

744
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: go buy a couple offensive linemen. And in the draft

745
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: you're not gonna draft the tight end at four overall

746
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: or whatever, but offensive defensive lineman, offensive defensive a lineman,

747
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: and get a really good running back. I would draft

748
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: a running back on the Patriots on the second day,

749
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: and ideally that guy becomes my bellcal But like, look

750
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Speaker 1: how they played with the Tennessee Titans when Rabel was there.

751
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: They had a good running game, they had a good

752
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: offensive line, they resurrected Tannehill's career, and they had a

753
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: good defensive line. Obviously, then they hit on AJ Brown

754
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: in the second round. It's not like they this was

755
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: not the version of AJ Brown. That how he got

756
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: the AJ Brown that Vrabel had. And I'll never forget

757
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: a Thursday night game against the forty nine ers like

758
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: three years ago, a J Brown single handedly won the game.

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00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: I was like, God, this guy. I didn't realize he

760
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: was this good, and he was and he is. But

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00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: I just think the line of scrimmage, man linus scrimmage,

762
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. I think Harbaugh showed the way last year, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: they gotta take Maleak Neighbors, and they easily could have.

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Speaker 1: No one would have complained, not a fucking soul, Jim Harbaugh,

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00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: Joe Ortiz get their quarterback Maleak Neighbors, who's let's hope

766
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: the concussion thing is not a lingering issue for his career,

767
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: but already a top ten talent at the position, I mean,

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Speaker 1: a freak. And they're like, no, we're gonna take a tackle.

769
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: It's like you already have a left tackle. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get a right tackle and we're gonna have

771
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: the best tackle duo in the NFL. It's like, Jim,

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Speaker 1: why didn't you draft a wide receiver. He's like, well,

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00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: I viewed offensive linemen as skill guys the tip of

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Speaker 1: the spear, and I would guess Vrabel will do the same. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: You know, if Joe Alt was in this draft, it'd

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Speaker 1: be a no brainer to take Joe alt at four,

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Speaker 1: he's not, and I think there are a lot of

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00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: question marks on the offensive lineman. So I'm not acting

779
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: like it's just a no brainer pick on who to do,

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00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: but I think you go offensive or defensive line. Been

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00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: a lifelong Packer fan. Matt Lafleur is clearly a great coach. However,

782
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: I think his play calling has been a little dubious.

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00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: Prime example they must have. I mean, we're breaking down

784
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: individual situations here third and three against the Eagles, and

785
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: they run it with a backup running back, not even Jacobs.

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Speaker 1: That's just one example. What kind of play calling is that?

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Speaker 1: His play calling has also been off, and I feel

788
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: like it costs us some games. Jordan Love is a

789
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: good young quarterback. He said, great, I'll go good, But

790
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: how long do we give him a chance to get

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00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: it wrangled in? He has a lot of farv in him,

792
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: but he's not bred far Curious to hear your thoughts, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know what was weird about last season is Love

794
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: gets hurt in that Eagles game, and I thought the

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00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks when they were rolling out Malik Willis,

796
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Speaker 1: I'm like, you're just gonna lose every game of Malika Willis,

797
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he just runs like

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Speaker 1: this way different offense and they're running the ball with

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Speaker 1: Jacobs and Malik and it's like, what how is he

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Speaker 1: doing this? And you're like, Lafleur is an elite young

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Speaker 1: offensive coach Shanahans. He's in that crew, the version of

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00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: like the young Andy Reids from an offensive standpoint. And

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00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: then as a season went on, you'd watch him, especially

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Speaker 1: when Love was banged up, and they would get really

805
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: pass happy. I think you just have a weird year,

806
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Speaker 1: and maybe sometimes you try to justify giving your quarterback

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00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: all that money. Let's face it, Jordan Love a huge

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00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: reason he's there is because of Lafleur and Goodikins like

809
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: that's a mutual decision. But yeah, I mean, you if

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Speaker 1: your bad years are gonna be going to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But I and I talked about this on a mail

812
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Speaker 1: bag recently. It's pretty insane that you made the playoffs

813
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: going one in five in your division. That is nuts,

814
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: that that really is And I forget you know better

815
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Speaker 1: than me. My memory A lot going on upstairs right now.

816
00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: But were you truynk that that week eight seventy or

817
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: eighteen game against the Bears, was that you were kind

818
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 1: of trying, kind of not I forget so, but let's

819
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: just even say going into that game you were one

820
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: and four. That's you can't get swept by the Vikings

821
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: and the Lions. That can't happen. But how often are

822
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: you gonna go one and five? Like next year? I

823
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: would say worst case scenario probably winning two games. So

824
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: you're already winning ten plus games. You're going you're winning

825
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: one divisional game. I think you guys are gonna be okay.

826
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Speaker 1: There's growing bats. I mean, Jordan Love has started what

827
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: one full season where he missed some games, and then

828
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: I guess he was a full time starter two years ago,

829
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: so two full time seasons. But he's already played in

830
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Speaker 1: three playoff games, so he's got a lot of experience,

831
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Speaker 1: and he sat behind Rogers on really good teams. I

832
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: keep saying this over and over. There are some teams

833
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: that are like, we're the Steelers, what are we gonna do?

834
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: We're the Browns, We're fucked right, We're the Cowboys. What

835
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: the hell is going on? And then there's like, you guys,

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00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: everything's gonna be okay. I'd be things are gonna be good.

837
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: You guys are fine, Like, it wouldn't shock me next year.

838
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: I You're like the two seat I would not freak

839
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: out if I'm a packer frown you guys. You know,

840
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: it's like when your boy flew first class for the

841
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: second time in his life to New Orleans and the

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Speaker 1: lady comes and she goes, what would you like to eat?

843
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, the enchiladas everyone else is eating. She's like, oh,

844
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: we're out of them. I'm like, well, what's your other meal.

845
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Speaker 1: She's like, oh, the salad. I'm like, oh, I'm good. Look,

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Speaker 1: that's first class problem. Not that big a deal, right,

847
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Speaker 1: And I realize, like, I'm not gonna complain. I'm sitting

848
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Speaker 1: here like I see why everyone or the eight to

849
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Speaker 1: ten people that sit up here when all the rest

850
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: of us are back like sardines in the back of

851
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: the plane, realize, Oh, they're living pretty to get meals.

852
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: But it wasn't that big a deal. Why because it

853
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: was a first class problem. It's like I didn't get

854
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: the ensuladas. Like, yeah, your coach had a couple of

855
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: bad play calls, you still were in a playoff game.

856
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Dart coming out of Ole Miss.

857
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: He looked awesome in college, but I think he could

858
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: be a solid backup at the top of the second round.

859
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: Go BYU Cougar's Dart's a Utah kid. Uh. I didn't

860
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: watch that much Old Miss last year. I off to

861
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: as we get past free agency and I get married,

862
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: maybe that'll be a project of watching a little more

863
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart on the old YouTube. My exposure to him.

864
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: I was dialed into one game this year and it

865
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: was a huge game against Florida, and he made some

866
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: of the worst mistakes I've ever seen. Like it was

867
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: like Jameis Winston at Tampa level, Like what is going on?

868
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: And I think you got to be very careful. We

869
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: used to call this we I mean they still do

870
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: call this. You know, sometimes your first exposure to a

871
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: player can be positive or negative, but you can't let

872
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: that cloud your judgment if it's a small sample size.

873
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: So like if you go see a top you know,

874
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: fifty player and he has an awful game, it's easy

875
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: to carry that with you forever. And it might have

876
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: been like that it was the worst game of the season.

877
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: He's a great player. He had a bad moment Jackson

878
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: Dart had a bad moment in the Florida game, like

879
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: really bad lost in the game. But that's like I

880
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: would say the most vividly sat No, it wasn't a

881
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: four box. It was like the only game on my

882
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: television and being like, what is going on here? I

883
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: liked him at USC early on in his career. I

884
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: thought it was like, this guy's a freak. You know.

885
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: The year I guess that would have been before Lincoln

886
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: Riley got there. I was a fan because he's very talented,

887
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: but I think the decision making in the game I

888
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: watched was like, but there's more to that, you know.

889
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: I know he had a good Senior Bowl. I know

890
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: he had other really good games and playing the SEC

891
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: it's like multiple years, he's gone through different coordinators. If

892
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: I was a betting man right now, I'll know more

893
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: after the combine texting around if you said you got

894
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: to place one thousand dollars. Does he get drafted in

895
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: the first round, does he go the second round? I'd

896
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: say probably it goes in the first round. You know,

897
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: if Jordan Love can go pick out whatever he went

898
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: twenty seven, Jackson Dart can go pick twenty seven. So

899
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: I would guess that Jackson Dart ends up going somewhere

900
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: between fifteen to thirty two. Do you think the Chiefs

901
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: make any big moves this offseason? The line needs massive

902
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: help at tackle, but it feels like bolden moves need

903
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: to be made to keep up with the Eagles. Well,

904
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what their official cap space is. Chiefs

905
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: cap space twenty twenty five. You gotta love AI. According

906
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: to this, they do not have much and they just

907
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: franchise tagged. According to this, they have seven million dollars

908
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: in cap space now they only have two million in

909
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: dead cap, so they're doing pretty good though. They just

910
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 1: franchise tagged the player who accounts for twenty three million.

911
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: So when you're paying Patrick a ton of money, For example,

912
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes cap hit going into twenty five is sixty

913
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: six million dollars, I think it's fair to assume that

914
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: they do some sort of contract extension with Patrick Mahomes

915
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 1: or mess with his contract in the next week or two,

916
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: because I'd be stunned one they they just don't have

917
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: any wiggle room. If mahomes cap HiT's going to be

918
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: sixty six million and Chris Jones' cap hit I think

919
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: they would like to get Patrick down to like Chris

920
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: who's thirty five million, which is twelve and a half percent.

921
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: So between Patrick Mahomes here, listen to this between Patrick

922
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes at let's round up twenty four twenty four, Chris

923
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: Jones at twelve point five and Travis at seven three

924
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: guys making forty three percent of their cap space and

925
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey City is coming back. So Kelsey's cap hit

926
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: is nineteen, Mahomes is sixty six, and Chris's is thirty

927
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: four A lot of coin, man, I would guess that,

928
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. And if you're Patrick, like, what do we

929
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: need to do? Do you want to give me more

930
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: signing give me thirty million dollars in two weeks as

931
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: a signing bonus and then we can mess with my contract?

932
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: Like I would do something like that for sure, And

933
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: if you're Patrick, it would you would be inclined, like

934
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: how do I help out the team? Right? I'm getting paid,

935
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: but like, give me some money up front, I'll redo

936
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: my contract and let's go buy some offensive lineman because

937
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: the draft is hit or miss. Like Andy has a

938
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: really good history of drafting guys and they drafted the

939
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 1: kid from BYU and it was just a tough spot.

940
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: So my guests would be sitting here they messed with

941
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: Patrick's contract, I think they would probably do that anyway.

942
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: Enjoy hearing your breakdown, But first, what makes a good scout?

943
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: And who are some of the all time great scouts?

944
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: This is the second time the Chiefs got obliterated in

945
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Do line issues in your opinion? Is

946
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: it a matter of scouting needing to be better or

947
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: better coaching on the line? How much scouting does a

948
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: head coach and coordinator in the NFL do or are

949
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: they completely reliant on the scouting department. What would you

950
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: like to see added and taken away from the scouting combine? Well,

951
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: let's use the Chiefs. They had a tackle issue, right

952
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: They tried several years ago to sign Trent Williams. Trent

953
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: Williams was going to be a Chief and then the

954
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: Niners just went above and beyond and resigned him. Chiefs

955
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: are drafting every single year thirty two, so you're in

956
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: a position where there aren't tackles available there. They haven't

957
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: had cap space, so occasionally when a good player hits

958
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: the open market, they can't pay them so they're in

959
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: this weird spot of like, how do you find a

960
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: left tackle? Look at the left tackles in the NFL.

961
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: Most of the good ones are high picks. So the

962
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: Chiefs offensive line before they had to fix their own line,

963
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: their left tackle, they had one of the best guard

964
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: center guard setups in the NFL, Thuony Creed and Tray Smith.

965
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: Like that is I mean, that's like fifty million dollars

966
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: worth of stud player. So up the front they were fantastic.

967
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: Their tackles were just an issue, and it was mainly

968
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: like they didn't really have a left tackle, but like,

969
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,959
Speaker 1: how are you supposed to find one? They're not easy

970
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: to find. So I just think they're in kind of

971
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: a tough position. Andy Reid knows how to coach find

972
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: tackles and coach them up. Some years you just are like,

973
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: we don't really know what to do, and they still

974
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: kind of pieced it together. I would say, depends on

975
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: the team, you know. I remember Michae Lombardi, the late

976
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 1: podcaster now GM. He was he was so taken back

977
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: by last year in Hard Knocks offseason, the Giants hire

978
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: the coordinator, the defensive coordinator from he with the Titans. Yeah,

979
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: he would have been because Veribele got fired, so they

980
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: hired the guy, and then in the free agency meetings

981
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: they basically just told him to tell all the scouts

982
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: what they need. It's like, you're just hiring this guy,

983
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: you tell him what you need. Like Al Davis used

984
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: to treat coaches like they were high school coaches, like,

985
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: just coach who you got, don't don't worry, we'll pick

986
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: the players. Now, there's a balance. You know, Andy's been

987
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: doing this along him and VS worked close together. But

988
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: I think some teams are different other teams. You know,

989
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: if you have Steve Spagnola as your coordinator, right, he's

990
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: probably pretty involved, you know, in the draft process, and

991
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: your scouts in your GM are working hand in hand

992
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: with him. If I get some random coordinator who just

993
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: showed up, like bro, coach the fucking team, we'll pick

994
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: the players, and I think there's that's but that doesn't

995
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: happen a lot because, let's face, the coaches make a

996
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: lot of money. The head coach is typically and always.

997
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: I think there's probably only one place in the league,

998
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: and that probably is gonna change here soon because he's

999
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: just gonna make a lot on a contract sension that

1000
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,959
Speaker 1: how he's making more than his coach. But I would

1001
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: say I'd have to really do a deep dive, but

1002
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: probably every coach is making more in the GM, and

1003
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: some of these coaches, you know, the Hardbob Brothers, the Tomlins,

1004
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: that they are making significantly more. Let's use the Pittsburgh

1005
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 1: Steelers as an example. Mike Tomlin's probably making somewhere between

1006
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: fifteen and twenty million dollars. Omar Khan, a first time

1007
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: GM of a couple of years ago, I don't know.

1008
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm probably making three and a half. So your coach

1009
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: is making three or four x. It's like, who do

1010
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: you think is more juice? And it's why, like in

1011
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: some other organizations, someone would have been like, yeah, let's

1012
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: bench t Russell Wilson. This isn't really working. Let's go

1013
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: back to Justin Fields. Well, head coach has a lot

1014
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: of power. So I think when ever you hear about

1015
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: these guys arguing about the decision making and the draft

1016
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: and who gets the final say like all these coaches

1017
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: pooh pooh that, like, oh it doesn't matter to bullshit.

1018
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: Someone's got to pull the trigger someone like there's a

1019
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: tiebreaker somewhere it's coach or the GM, especially when the

1020
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: owners like I don't know, I don't know these players.

1021
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,479
Speaker 1: Your guys call who's got the final decision making power?

1022
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: You pull the trigger. But I think coaches can be

1023
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: pretty And here's the other thing. I don't know who

1024
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: the best scouts are. I mean I was with a

1025
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: lot of really good ones. Brett Veach, you know, was

1026
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: a scout when I was there. He is excellent. Mike Bradway,

1027
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: who is with him in Kansas City, is awesome at

1028
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: his job. You know, when I was there, you know,

1029
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: Gregson Griston is not my biggest fan. I didn't think

1030
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: he was that great of a scout. I mean I didn't,

1031
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: but you know, being a GM is about more than that.

1032
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: But you know, you either got an eye for it

1033
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: or don't. Some guys are better. And you know, Adam Peters,

1034
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't. I've never worked with at him, but I

1035
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: always thought really, really highly of him, and I think

1036
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 1: he's pretty fucking good. And I think John It doesn't

1037
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: mean you don't miss and doesn't mean that maybe he

1038
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: was all in on Trey Lance and doesn't mean he

1039
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: doesn't go the wrong way. But I think over the

1040
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: course of his career, like he's done pretty good job,

1041
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: and listen, it's it's much. It's easy for me to

1042
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: critique draft picks on the outside. It's it's obviously hard.

1043
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 1: Is always easy to play Hindsight's twenty twenty. But let's

1044
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: use last year as an example, because I have a

1045
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: couple of scouting buddies that text me all the time.

1046
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: One of my buddies with the Niners are like, does

1047
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: anyone remember that the Bears never even brought in the

1048
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, Like they didn't even bring in Jayden Daniels

1049
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: or Drake May didn't even have him in for like

1050
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: a dinner. It was just all in for Kaleb, which

1051
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: was the easy thing to do because no one was

1052
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: gonna give you shit. Yet Adam Peters took a bunch

1053
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: of crap because he brought them all and took him

1054
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: all the top golf. It's like, what are you doing?

1055
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: I don't know my job. I we like Jayden, we

1056
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: like Drake, but I why not evaluate them all? Why

1057
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: not evaluate them all together, get a feel for the guys.

1058
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: Let the cream rise. When I was in the NFL

1059
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: and we'd have interviews and hell, I was part of this.

1060
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: You show up like the other three guys interviewing for

1061
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: your position are also in the cafeteria seven thirty in

1062
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: the morning having breakfast. You're like, this is kind of crazy.

1063
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: Is this Wall Street? You're like, no, this is this

1064
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: is the Eagles, and this is for a job that

1065
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: pays twenty three thousand dollars. There's two other guys here

1066
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: interviewing with me. It's like, yeah, we're gonna pick one.

1067
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: At the end of the day. It's like, shit, I

1068
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: better dial in here. It's like everyone's I remember Adam

1069
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 1: Peters took so much crap with people in the media

1070
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: about the top golf thing, yet the Bears did not

1071
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: bring one other person into their building beside Caleb Williams.

1072
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: There is not anyone in the NFL. I'm sorry. It

1073
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's gonna play like out this way forever.

1074
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: But as we said here on February twenty seven, who

1075
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: would take Cayleb Williams over Jade Daniels And even Adam

1076
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: Peters at the time was like, well, I just want

1077
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: to make sure we're bringing other people. Listen, my guys

1078
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: with Kansas City really like Ryan Poles. People think he's

1079
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: a good guy unlessen obviously you just watch him like,

1080
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: seems like a great guy. Is he good at his job?

1081
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: I don't know job's heart. And you know, the job

1082
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: of a GM two is about more than like picking players,

1083
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: like building a team. I would say the same thing

1084
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: about Joe Shane, the GM for the Giants. It seems

1085
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: like a nice guy, seems like probably a fun guy

1086
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: to like be your neighbor, have as a friend. Is

1087
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: he any good at being a general manager? Doesn't really

1088
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 1: seem like that, seems like he's completely over his head.

1089
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it takes a dynamic individual, you know how.

1090
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 1: He's just got a pretty unique set of skills. It's

1091
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: just not his skill set is not normal. You know,

1092
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: John Schneider is a little quirky, a little out there,

1093
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: like he's kind of good at his job. I don't know,

1094
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: it's fucking hard. I think he kind of knows what

1095
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: he's doing. Doesn't mean you're perfect. When an NFL player

1096
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: gets traded or moves teams in free agency, do the

1097
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: new coaches or players ask about the old team, especially

1098
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: if the player came from a rival team. As a

1099
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: Chiefs fan, I wondered about this when Orlando Brown went

1100
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: to the Bengals and Tyreek went to the Dolphins. Are

1101
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: these players questioned at all about the scheme or anything

1102
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: about how the Chiefs operate in certain situations that could

1103
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: help these teams when they play Kansas City. Well, I'd

1104
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: say this, the Dolphins. Tyreek Hill could bring every playbook

1105
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 1: he ever had. He could bring his iPad from Kansas City.

1106
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: He could have taken all his video from his cell

1107
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: phone when he played all those years in Kansas City.

1108
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: He could give it all. Mike mcdonnal, It wouldn't matter

1109
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: one iota. He can get Andy Reid on the horn. Hey, hey, coach,

1110
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: Mike wants to pick your brain about everything we do,

1111
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: and he can tell them everything, they'd still get their

1112
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: fucking ass kick the Bengals. I think that stuff just overrated.

1113
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: You know. Belichick's talked about this over the years, like

1114
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: you can only glean so much because the end of

1115
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: the day, you don't know what's gonna happen. So it's like, yeah,

1116
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: what are the fundamentals when you ran this play in

1117
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: Kansas City? It's like, Okay, I can tell them how

1118
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: we can run it or try to defend it. If

1119
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,959
Speaker 1: they got better players. It doesn't matter. So I think

1120
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: in theory that stuff happens a lot, But I think

1121
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: it's overall tangible value is much smaller than the way

1122
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: it's often discussed. Plus in football, all these people have

1123
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: worked with each other, All these people know each other

1124
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: so many years of tape. So the chiefs do what

1125
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: the chiefs do. They're gonna plits a lot. You're either

1126
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: gonna pick it up or or not. Lifelong fan, lifelong

1127
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: Vikings fan, not me. The GM Quesse hasn't had the

1128
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: draft success like his predecessor, Rick Spielman. It made me

1129
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: wonder how much of Quesse's draft staff is the same

1130
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: as Spielman's. Can you shed some light on how decisions

1131
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 1: are made behind the scenes. I think it depends personnel

1132
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: department from personnel department. That when you take over, like

1133
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 1: a guy like QUESTI and someone's fired, how many people

1134
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 1: you keep? For example, we have a bunch of new

1135
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: gms right now in the NFL, right the dude probably

1136
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: messing up his name, Moogie Mogi, the Jets guy Borganzi,

1137
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: spy Tech, and sometimes you know, Spi Tech already fired

1138
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: like four people. Spy Tech is like we are cleaning house.

1139
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: Don't blame him. It's like this thing needs We're going

1140
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: doze up in this bitch. We are trimming the fat,

1141
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: and that means everybody in some places, like when John

1142
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: Lynch and Kyle Shanahan got the job, I would I

1143
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: felt like a majority he brought in Adam Peters with him,

1144
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: but the majority of guys Josh Williams, who just interviewed

1145
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: was in the finals for the Jags job has been

1146
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: there like fifteen years. You know, a lot of times

1147
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: guys stay, so I think it just completely depends, you know,

1148
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: individual from individual scouting staff. Sometimes you know the guys,

1149
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: sometimes you just think they're good. Sometimes you have people

1150
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring in on your own. You know, if

1151
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: you look at Quess with the Vikings, I mean, Grigson's

1152
01:04:55,520 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: his right hand guy, but that's his football guy. You know,

1153
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: Grigson things I'd hate him or whatever he hates me,

1154
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: I really don't care. But like I just think you

1155
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: can question, like is this guy that good at his job? Right?

1156
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: Is he a good evaluator? Because you watch other teams,

1157
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: you're like, I think you'd be pretty good at what

1158
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: they're doing. And you watch the Vikings like yeah, I

1159
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: think you know. I remember I watched a little bit

1160
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: of the uh of the post whenever they got beat

1161
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and then the GM and the coach

1162
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: talked and quest. We talked about like we've hit on

1163
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: some free agents, we have not done a good job drafting.

1164
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: We'll see what JJ and the dude from Bama. But like, yeah,

1165
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't speak to it. I think

1166
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 1: rix s Puelman was good. I always said that about

1167
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,959
Speaker 1: like the Vikings, rix s Pielman and Zimmer were just good.

1168
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: Now Zimmer got old and crotchety, but like Spielman was

1169
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: good at his job, like he was a really really

1170
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: good evaluator drafter, Like they just built really good teams.

1171
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: I saw that when I was living in the Bay Area.

1172
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: I feel like three or four times live and I

1173
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: would always be like God, Kendrick Smith Hunter obviously, Adrian Peterson,

1174
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: the tight end, the kid from Notre Dame. You know,

1175
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: they drafted digs in like the fifth round. Feelan was

1176
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: no one had ever heard of the guy coming out

1177
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: of college. They were just good. Xavier Rose was a

1178
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: first round pick. He was good for them for a

1179
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: long time, Like Honestly, what was so crazy about the

1180
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: Vikings this year is like Flora's doing an incredible job

1181
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: because they're not John Randall ain't walking through that door.

1182
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: Ravens fan here, could you see us making this offseason?

1183
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: What moves could you see us making? Not exactly sure

1184
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:46,919
Speaker 1: on the cap space off the top of my head,

1185
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: but me personally would love to see maybe a second

1186
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: first Uh. Dude from Cleveland, but never give it to us.

1187
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm hearing Deebo rumors, but not sure he'd be much

1188
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: of an asset. Dude is starting to look like Zion lowkey.

1189
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: I was with Deebo in the plane flight to the

1190
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: Zuber Bowl from Arizona. I thought he looked pretty good.

1191
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: He's always had like me, our faces can be a

1192
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: little chubby, but I thought he looked he didn't look fat.

1193
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: I think one problem for the Xon, uh, Debo's done

1194
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: way more in the NFL than Zion. I will defend

1195
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 1: Deebo that way. And the one thing with Debo is

1196
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: Debo is Uh. Debo's a fucking war daddy. Rough season

1197
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: last year, but like I've seen Debo in the trenches

1198
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,880
Speaker 1: of big games, like you want that dude on your squad,

1199
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: running over dudes, playing his ass off, like in some

1200
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: of the biggest games of Kyle Shanahan's career. Deebo has

1201
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: been a menace. Uh The problem for the Ravens is

1202
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: one you never have that much cap space. Looking now,

1203
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: twelve point nine million. Again, this is before guys get

1204
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: cut in cap casualties and stuff. Your highest paid players

1205
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: obviously Lamar whose caps base is forty three million, cap

1206
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: hit fifteen percent, Marlon Humphrey, who I thought was slipping

1207
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: and then they moved him in a nickel and he

1208
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 1: was awesome. Roquan stud Andrew's bad game, good player, uh

1209
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 1: Ama Bouquet, the defensive tackle stud Derreck Henry. You guys

1210
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: are paying are your top players. Marcus Williams probably gonna

1211
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: get cut. Uh yeah, I don't know. I feel like

1212
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: you guys rarely do sexy shit to me when I

1213
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: think of the Ravens. You guys just always have a

1214
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 1: good core of people because you draft well, and then

1215
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: you'll just sign like Derrick Henry or like Steve Smith Senior,

1216
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: and then he'll bang the chick that's working in the office,

1217
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: which I don't know if you saw that story on

1218
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: the internet, but that's pretty classic. Which I also saw

1219
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: Steve taking like family portraits like with the six Kids.

1220
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: I actually saw Steve at the at the hotel buffet

1221
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: for breakfast, said what's up to him? Looked like he

1222
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: was in good spirits. Maybe she was there. I feel

1223
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: like you guys make a living off like signing that

1224
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: type guy like Derrick Henry Eric Weddle. You guys are

1225
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: rarely like Messing. Not the Browns would never trade you,

1226
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, but Debo, Like if you can get Debo

1227
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: for cheap, I guess he's traded like a six round

1228
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: pick in the Niners. Eat some of Debo's money. I

1229
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: think that was the last question. Yeah, okay, well, good question.

1230
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: The Ravens, you guys are just one of those teams

1231
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 1: kind of like the Packers. Might not win the Super Bowl,

1232
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: but it feels like you always have a good year

1233
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: and you're just always gonna be good and probably more

1234
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: than the Packers. Sometimes during the season you're like, is

1235
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: this the best team in the NFL. Part of that's Lamar.

1236
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar's dramatically better than Jordan, but you just

1237
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: a well run organization. I think one thing the Packers

1238
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:05,480
Speaker 1: and the Ravens both possess is like they're very comfortable

1239
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: in their organizational skin, Like they know what they want,

1240
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: they know what they look for. They have a bunch

1241
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: of guys you know GOODA Kins has been there forever.

1242
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: Da Costa's been there forever. They just kind of know

1243
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: what they're doing. It doesn't mean you're perfect. They're not

1244
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,879
Speaker 1: always super dynamic. You know how He's doing way crazier

1245
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: shit less. Need will trade the house. They don't always

1246
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: get super aggressive, but they rarely fuck up big. They

1247
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: really do. So if I'm a Raven fan, I'm feeling

1248
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:38,879
Speaker 1: pretty good. The volume