1 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: Look, I think we put out a pretty good podcast. 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: I think we talked a lot of really good college 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: football here. But I think the award winning product we 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: could produce, as I've learned over the last forty five 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: minutes in the office, is just reading our jail mail, 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: not fan mail. You heard me right, people, jail mail, 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: because we got a really good one. I mean we 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: got one from a certain penitentiary and a certain state 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: of the Union in which one of our one of 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: our incarcerated brethren out there are asking for a research 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: position here at twenty four seven Sports, and I put 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: it in the capable hands of management. It's not my call. 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: This is the lay Kick Extra podcast. It's wall to 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: wall college football. It's mail bag. You can hit me 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: up at Lake Kick, Josh. We are jam packed. Why 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: would we not be, and we are going to waste 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: no time. Let's get started. Robbie hit us up and said, 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: is there a point where the reporting and questions about 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: the trend in poor decision making of Georgia players becomes 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: loud enough that winning back to back titles is not 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: enough to overlook what's going on in Athens recently? So 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: Robbie's asking something that I think most of you are 23 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: familiar with. There's been a run of bad headlines out 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: of Georgia. We of course had the stuff surrounding the draft, 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: and I don't want to make light of this. Every 26 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: time we talk about this. There was an incident up 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: there in which lives were lost, and anytime that you 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: speak flippantly about it, or anytime you dismiss the wholesale 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: notion that Robbie's talking about it could be misconstrued is, oh, 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: you don't care that two players, a player, Devin Willcox 31 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: and Chandler Lacroix, who was an assistant, they lost their lives. Well, 32 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: I very much do care about that. What Robbie's asking 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: goes well above and beyond that. I mean, I think 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: George's program has been adequately criticized, I guess is the 35 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: right way to put it for what happened there. So 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: I speak very carefully about this. But Robbie's saying, Okay, 37 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: all the other stuff, all the other headlines, all the 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: other player arrests, or just you know, bad publicity in general. 39 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: Is there a point where you get too much of 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: that and it overshadows the back to back championships and 41 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: basically the momentum they've built as a program. And my 42 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: answer is yeah, I guess there's a point where that 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: would happen. They're not even close to it, not even close, 44 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: nor will they get close to it, would be my guess. 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: And again I don't want to sound flipping about this. 46 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: I don't think most people care. Just being honest with you, 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: I don't think most people care. I think rival fans 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: of Georgia do the same thing that any fan base does, 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: and that is when when your rival's team has some 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: mud on, it has some negative headlines, you throw it 51 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: in their face. Georgia fans have done it to Florida before, 52 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: Florida fans, Auburn fans, Bama fans are doing it to 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: Georgia right now. That is a cycle that is old 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: as time, that'll always happen. But to really hurt Georgia, 55 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: what would you have to do. You would have to 56 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: cut off the supply of talent. And I don't know 57 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: any recruit, I don't know any family of any recruit. 58 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: This is me, personally speaking, that has been deterred from 59 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: considering the University of Georgia by negative headlines. I really 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: think it's something that fans and media get more caught 61 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: up in than the players and the families themselves. And 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: here's why you don't really get Kirby Smart in your 63 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: living room, nor do I get him in my living 64 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: room explaining their approach to things. And I really think, 65 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: whether you're a Georgia hater, a Georgia fan, you're indifferent 66 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: to Georgia or not, I think if you were to 67 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: just hear their side of things, at the very least, 68 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: you'd probably go, uh, okay, benefit of the doubt, that 69 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: makes sense. I'm picking up what they're putting down. That 70 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: would probably be your takeaway. The whole perception that this 71 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: is just a fly by night operation and they really 72 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: they want to win consequences be damned, they don't care 73 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: about any rules. They'll win at all costs. That's not 74 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: the case. No program that sustains excellence operates like that. 75 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: It's just a myth to believe that about him if 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: you don't like him. But that's a myth. So no 77 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: short of some really really catastrophic headlines off the field 78 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: to this point that haven't happened, and I mean above 79 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: and beyond anything that's already happened, short of that happening 80 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: or short of massive NCAA scandal, short of Kirby Smart 81 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: having something in his personal life blow up that bleeds 82 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: over into football, none of which we know anything about. Obviously. 83 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: I'm just speaking in hypotheticals. Short of that happening. I 84 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: don't see anything that's happened so far between the time 85 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: they won the title and now that's gonna slow them down. Now, 86 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: you could have a separate conversation with me and say, well, 87 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: should it be the case, should people care more about 88 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: ab CD. That's totally within your right to have that conversation. 89 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: We're not gonna do it on this particular show, on 90 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: this particular day. But I'm just stating facts as they 91 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: appear to me. And if I'm wrong, here's where you'll 92 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: know it. If I'm wrong, they won't finish with a 93 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: top three recruiting class. As it stands right now, they 94 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: got the number one class in the country, and even 95 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: though it's early, my bad is they stay there and 96 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: if they do fall from number one, they won't fall 97 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: past number three. And if that's the case, you got 98 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: to come back to me and tell me was there 99 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: really much negative consequence? Was there really a whole lot 100 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: of negative fallout from this doesn't seem to be the case, 101 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: at least to me. Reasonable minds can disagree. As I 102 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: said when we opened, this is the Late Kick Extra pod. 103 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: Some confusion out there in the marketplace, a little bit confusion, 104 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: I guess as to what the difference is in all this. 105 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: Every now and then I have to reiterate. There's no 106 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: end in the word reiterate. Late Kick Live. This time 107 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: of year, we do Sunday night and Thursday night, so 108 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: if you listen on your way to work on podcast, 109 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: you'll get it Monday morning and you'll get it what 110 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Friday morning. But then we figured that's a great big 111 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: gap in between those two. We need to throw them 112 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: something else now in the fall. That something else is 113 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: a Tuesday night live show. We do three live shows 114 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: a week during the fall, but in the spring and 115 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: summer we just throw you this. This is the Late 116 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: Kick Extra podcast. It's podcast only, so unlike Late Kick Live, 117 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: you cannot watch the full version of this on YouTube. 118 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: You gotta be subscribed or at least checking out the 119 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: podcast feed. And if you're checking it out, please go 120 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: ahead and subscribe, all right. Next up, Josh is from Gainesville, Florida. 121 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: He said, what's your favorite part of the road trips 122 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: you take? We just came off one and down in Miami. 123 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: We were in Penn State about a month ago. This 124 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: is such an easy answer for me. Josh love your name. 125 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: By the way, working out in college weight rooms is incredible. 126 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: I was telling someone on the staff down at Miami 127 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: when I was down there, if you would have told 128 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: me basically anything about my life a decade ago was 129 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: actually gonna happen like this, I may not have believed you. 130 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: But even if you told me, Okay, take all the 131 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: doubt away. You're actually gonna go on to have a really, 132 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: really big job in sports media, and you're just gonna 133 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: talk about college football, and you're gonna get to do 134 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: the dream scenario of go wherever you want every Saturday 135 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: and have a major media company fit the bill for it. 136 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: And you're gonna get to stand on the sidelines for 137 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: all the biggest games in the world, and you're gonna 138 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: get access, and you're gonna get coaches talking to you, 139 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: and you're gonna be able to have the most informed 140 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: opinion you could possibly have. I would have said, Yep, 141 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: that's a dream job. Sign me up. But even if 142 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: you told me, Josh, even if you told me that 143 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: I was going to have that dream job, there still 144 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: would be one thing that I would think was unobtainable, 145 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: and that would be access to college weight rooms. Now 146 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: to some of you, that sounds backwards. To some of you, 147 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: you may think the access to the college weight rooms 148 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: should come before a lot of that. Hey, that's the 149 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: way you see it. That's the way you see it. 150 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: To me, that's always been sort of the holy grail, 151 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: being able if I'm at Georgia or Penn State or 152 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: Miami like we were last week, to tell the folks there, 153 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: to tell like Greg k and Kaid at Penn State, 154 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: to tell Cam Gorby done at Miami, Hey, I need 155 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: to get a workout in, and for them to say, 156 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: no problem, bro, we'll hook you up. I'll hit Chuck up, 157 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: or I'll hit Aaron Feld up. I'll find out what 158 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: the schedule is. You'd get right in there. That's the 159 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: dream scenario. That's the best part of the road trips. 160 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: The food is good too, Josh. The food's really good too. 161 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: But by the way I can see it, everyone eats 162 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: when they go on the road. Some better than others. 163 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: But everyone eats when they go on the road. Not 164 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: everyone gets to work out in a college weight room. 165 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: And I'll also say this, I know a lot of 166 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: you work out. Some of you are working out even 167 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: as you're listening to this right now. Shout out for 168 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: choosing this over music. Most of you probably take some 169 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: form of pre workout supplement before you work out. I do. 170 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: It's not a problem. But let me tell you, when 171 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: you work out in a college weight room, it's like 172 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: an injection of adrenaline or caffeine that is above and 173 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: beyond any street legal pre workout that you could take. Now, 174 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: those of you shopping on that black market out there, 175 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: I cannot attest for what you're putting in your body. 176 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: But as for those of us who live by the 177 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: letter of the law, like I take a pre workout 178 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: supplement called Prejim Jym, they're not paying for anything, so 179 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: that's the last shout out they'll get. But I think 180 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: it's a really good product. One rounded sis is three 181 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: hundred milligrams of caffeine. By the way, that stuff will 182 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: get you going. Working out in a college weight room 183 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: puts more adrenaline in your body than that and especially 184 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: if you're in there. Because I was in there with 185 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: Miami's football team the other day, including the head coach, 186 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: so like I'm in there working out with the team. Awesome, Awesome. 187 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: You find out it's like law. It's like the law 188 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: of the jungle when you're working out in that setting. 189 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: Those of you who have been college athletes at some 190 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: of you have played in the NFL when you guys 191 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: have been in that kind of weight room setting, Some 192 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: good high schools are like this. If you ever can 193 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: experience it, you realize why they athletically are on such 194 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: a different level on Friday, Saturday or Sunday because that 195 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: environment forces you to either meet the level of intensity 196 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: or you get chewed up. And so you realize you're 197 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: working at it like a twenty five to thirty percent 198 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: higher level than you otherwise would and it's the environment 199 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: that's affecting you and impacting you. So yeah, that's my 200 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: favorite part of our road trips, being able to go 201 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: on the road. Unfortunately, I'm not in one today, so 202 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: I do have a little caffeine at my disposal here. 203 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: Let me take a sip and we move on. Thank 204 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: you for affording me that opportunity. Jake is from Mechanicsville, Virginia, 205 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: and he asks, will the ACC have a chance to 206 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: remain a power conference if it's historically good programs the 207 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: u FSU, etc. And middle tier programs North Carolina, Louisville 208 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: and Virginia Tech returned to form. Yes, absolutely, it would 209 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: be a power conference. It should be right now. I 210 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: said this on the Thursday Night Show last week. People 211 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: hate on the PAC twelve, okay, for not being all 212 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: that it could be. People hate on the Big twelve 213 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: sometimes for not being a perennial playoff producing just powerhouse 214 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: of a conference. You need to be hating on the ACC. 215 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: The ACC is the conference that has dropped the ball 216 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: fantastically because, unlike the other two I just mentioned, and 217 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: unlike in any of the G five conferences, the ACC 218 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: overlaps with some of the biggest recruiting hotbeds in America. 219 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: They have schools in Georgia, they have schools in the Carolinas, 220 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: they have schools in the Virginia's, and they have schools 221 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: in Florida. That's where everyone else comes to recruit. And 222 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: yet they have woefully underachieved. Virginia hasn't mattered in a 223 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: long time, Virginia Tech hasn't mattered in a long time 224 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: outside of a blip. Florida State up until now hasn't 225 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: mattered in a long time. Miami hasn't mattered in a 226 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: long time. It's just inexcusable ineptitude on the part of 227 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: the ACC. And what's happened is Clemson came in. Dabo 228 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: turned Clemson into what Alabama was in the SEC. The 229 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: difference is when Saban started to transform Alabama into the 230 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: monster they became. What happened everybody adjusted to try and 231 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: keep up. Now they didn't all keep up, but even 232 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: the Arkansas and the Mississippi State's and old Missis of 233 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: the world, they started to spend more. They started to 234 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: invest and invest and take things more seriously. Auburn ended 235 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: up winning a national championship. It puts so much pressure 236 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: on them and played for another one in the ACC. 237 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: It's like one program started to lift off and the 238 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: rest of them waved from earth by. That's not the 239 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: way it's supposed to be. So Clemson did their part. 240 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: No one else did their part. So in this world 241 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: was presented in the question there if Virginia Tech were 242 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: to just moderately fulfill on their potential, and Miami did that, 243 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: and Florida State did that, and North Carolina did that. Yeah, 244 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: that's a power conference. They could be any given year 245 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: the best conference in college football. Not long term, I mean, 246 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: but any given year. Yeah. If those programs, that's half 247 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: a dozen deep of high level programs, if they were 248 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: all operating it moderate to max capacity. But as it 249 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: stands they're not. It's one of the great missed oportunities 250 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: in college football. And I know I referenced this a lot, 251 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: but think about our college age audience. You guys are 252 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: listening to me. You may not even believe me because 253 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: you haven't lived in a world where Florida State was legit. 254 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, not too long ago, there was a 255 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: world where Florida State was what Georgia is now feared 256 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: took field with them, You feared them, Miami, you feared them, 257 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. Believe it or not, was that a generation 258 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: and go. So it's not like it hasn't happened. I'm 259 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: not trying to present you this this threading of the 260 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: needle scenario where if you did everything right like TCU 261 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: last year, it could happen. It has happened. It could 262 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: happen again. It's just not happening right now, and it's 263 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: a shame selfishly even it's a shame because I'd love 264 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: to see it all right. Next up, good mix of questions. 265 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: I think in the pod today as I pull my 266 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: doc up, I got a new laptop because I dropped 267 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: my old one and it goes to sleep on me 268 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: pretty quick. So Kyle hit us up from Elkton, Maryland, 269 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: and Kyle said, as the future commissioner of college football, 270 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: will you implement a promotion and relegation system amongst conferences 271 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: example Big Ten and MAC or SEC Sun Belt. I 272 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: would love to. For a million reasons, this will probably 273 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: never happen. I say probably, so I want to hold 274 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: out hope myself. But I would love this, love this, 275 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: love this. English Premier League soccer does it. A lot 276 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: of you are familiar with what this is, but if 277 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: you're not, it puts real consequence on sucking. It puts 278 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: real consequence on finishing last. Right now, you go into 279 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: any given season and in the Big Ten, you may 280 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: look at it and you may say, no, Rutger is 281 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: going to finish last again, Northwestern gonna finish last again. 282 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: But they'll be back next year in the English Premier League. 283 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: And in a relegation promotion model, that's not the way 284 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: it would work. In a relegation promotion model, you would 285 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: look at, for instance, Vanderbilt or Missouri or whoever, any 286 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: given year, the team you think is gonna finish last 287 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: in the SEC, and you would look at maybe the 288 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: team that may finish first in the Sun Belt. Let's 289 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: just say Louisiana Lafayette, and there would be a thread 290 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: of them switching spots. The best out of your partner 291 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: conference elevates and the worst out of your eight year 292 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: conference drops. Now here's why I would love that number 293 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: one cause it fosters more competition, It promotes excellence, it 294 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: punishes ineptitude, and you ultimately get the best product as 295 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: a fan. And think about what it would do at 296 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: the end of the year. You know how, when we 297 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: talk about college football playoff expansion and some of the 298 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: expansionists say it would put more meaning on more games, 299 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: I kind of say, I don't think it will. Well 300 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: in this case, it absolutely would, just not the way 301 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: the playoff expansion is designed. To think about this, if 302 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: you knew relegation was on the line, and now let's 303 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: say we had Missouri versus Vanderbilt. Let's say we had 304 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: Rutgers versus Northwestern towards the end of the year. None 305 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: of you are watching that. If they played Rutgers versus 306 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: Northwestern in your backyard in late November, chances are you'd 307 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: close the blinds. That's how unwatchable that is. But if 308 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: you knew there was a threat that one of them 309 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: was going to get kicked out of the conference because 310 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: you had a random mac school that was ready to 311 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: be promoted, because they've been rolling for two or three 312 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: years and they're banging on the door. They just want 313 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: their shot. All of a sudden, what did we just do? 314 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: We just created must watch TV between Rutgers and Northwestern. 315 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: And here's the bonus for your television partner. Aside from 316 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: the obvious, you get more eyeballs. But aside from the obvious, 317 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: the TV partner is going to benefit long term because 318 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: no sustained loser is staying in the top conference. By 319 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: the very definition of how promotion and relegation works, if 320 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: you're always last, you're gone. Yes, it would be very 321 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: far fun. I would be fully on board with it. 322 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: Of course, there are so there's so much red tape 323 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: around what it would take to achieve that that I 324 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: don't think we would ever see it. The one thing 325 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: that gives me hope is remember last year, maybe two 326 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: years ago at this point, Greg Sank, the commissioner of 327 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: the SEC. He always takes pictures of the books that 328 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: he's been reading, and there was one I can't remember 329 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: the title of it, but it was a pretty popular book, 330 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: and it was about the English Premier League, and he 331 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: was sort of intimating that he was studying the model 332 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: of that league. And then reasonable minds like mine were 333 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: left to wonder, wonder and wander actually about what it 334 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: was he was taking away from that model. Is it 335 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: just reading for pleasure. Is he just looking at expansion 336 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: and how you go acquire new properties, or is he 337 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: holistically looking at that model and saying that's the future 338 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: of college athletics. You know, many of these changes I 339 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: don't like. That's a change that I would like, especially 340 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: if you're for seing all this other stuff on me. 341 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm the kind of person that at a certain point 342 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: gets tired of being, you know, beaten over the head 343 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: with all these changes. I grabbed the club from you, 344 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: and I say, all right, if we're going to change things, 345 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: let's really change things. And then all of a sudden, 346 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: you go, whoa, we don't want that much change. Nope, 347 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: you hit the change button, you pulled the change lever. 348 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna want some real, real change. Let's get 349 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: some stuff that actually benefits us while we're at it. 350 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: Got a little two worked up there. I'm sorry. That's 351 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: why when I'm when I'm commissioner, it could be touching. 352 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: Go there for a little while. That's a lot of power, 353 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: I feel. Ultimately I would handle it responsibly and I 354 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: would hand back power once the crisis was under control. 355 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 1: But before that we would go scortched to earth on 356 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: some of these people and some of this stuff. All right, 357 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: next question, Bradley, the associate in there at the wheel. 358 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: Omar hit us up from Knoxville, Tennessee with one of 359 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: the more pressing questions of the year twenty twenty three 360 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: so far. He said, have you been back to that rest' 361 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: on in Nashville that messed up your grilled cheese? And 362 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: did they improve from last time? Omar, I regret to 363 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: inform you that I went back on my word and 364 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: I gave them another chance, and I regret to inform 365 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: you they dropped the ball again, and so I never again, never, 366 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: never again. For those of you unfamiliar, the staff and 367 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: I get in here on Sundays or Thursdays or Sunday, Tuesday, 368 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: Thursday during the season, and we don't have time to 369 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: go eat or we're too lazy to go out, and 370 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: so we order Uber Eats. And then Bradley, the associate, 371 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: draws the short straw and he has to go down 372 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: to the street and pick it up, brings it back up. 373 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: And there's this restaurant, this little Mediterranean outfit here in Nashville, 374 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: that I order grilled salmon from, but also I get 375 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: the grilled cheese. Now, some of you, some of you 376 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: of the more management esque mentality out there, just turned 377 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: your nose up and you said, why would you order 378 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: grilled cheese from a Mediterranean restaurant. My answer is because 379 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: it's on the menu. And I got real close to 380 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: the mic there. It's probably spiked the audience, but I 381 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: wanted to emphatically say, if you put something on your menu, 382 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: it's not my fault for ordering it, it's your fault 383 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: for putting it on the menu. And then Here's where 384 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: it really gets egregious. The picture does not match the product. 385 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: The picture is a grilled cheese. There are two pieces 386 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: of bread and there's cheese in the middle, and it's grilled. 387 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: And I don't want to give away any secret recipes, 388 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: but that's largely how grilled cheese is made. And for 389 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: a little while I would order it and they would 390 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: send a real grilled cheese sandwich. Now, producer Jesse looked 391 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 1: at it with disdain, but I have a much more 392 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: unrefined palate. You know. I didn't grow up in the 393 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: circles that Jesse grew up in, and so good enough 394 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: is enough for me. When it comes to grilled cheese. 395 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: Well then they just said forget it. In this economy, 396 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: bread is just is too far a bridge for us 397 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: to cross. We're just gonna put cheese inside a little 398 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: pita and we're gonna pass it off as grilled cheese. 399 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: So I ordered it one day and they sent me 400 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: that little trash peeda and they tried to pass it 401 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: off as grilled cheese, and I actually I didn't need it. 402 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: I held it up on the show cold I showed 403 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: you just in disgust, and I said, never again. But 404 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: then I went back and I thought, you know, maybe 405 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: the pressure was applied, maybe they'll come through this time. 406 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: They didn't. They sent another trash peda and so we're done. 407 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: At least we're done ordering grilled cheese from them. Lesson learned. 408 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: So omar, I appreciate your concern. There's a place called 409 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: the grilled Cheese Arhea here that we have not tried 410 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: out yet, but that's probably next up. I've also been 411 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: getting copious amounts of grilled cheese recommendations from you guys, 412 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: and really, you know, aside from us getting jail mail, 413 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. We get a lot of 414 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: wedding invitations, no fall, only spring and summer in winter, 415 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: and we get some grilled cheese recipes and some some recommendations. 416 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: So thanks for looking out. Next up, so how do 417 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: we pronounce this city? Swananawa? Yeah it's that way, okay. 418 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: So poly Greek hit us up. Well, no poly Gee 419 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: hit us up from somewhere in North Carolina. And he said, 420 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: when a team moving the ball up and down the field, 421 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: TV announcers are quick to say that offensive coordinator is 422 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: a great play caller. Well, in your estimation, what goes 423 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: into being a great play caller. Great question. I was 424 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: down in Miami last week. We sat down with Shannon Dawson, 425 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: the new OC there, and there's a feature that's coming 426 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: out really soon on the Late Kick YouTube channel and 427 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: you will see. I just had him take me in 428 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: the film room. I wanted to know what he thought 429 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: about his quarterback and how he would explain his new offense. 430 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: And we literally we went in the film room. He 431 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: put about twenty or thirty plays up on the board, 432 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: you know, laser pen just like a film session, and 433 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: I told him break it down like I'm a fifth grader, 434 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: and so he put it in terms of everyone can understand. 435 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: Here's what I think makes a great play caller. Awareness 436 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: of your roster, awareness of what your player's capabilities are, 437 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: preparation not just Monday through Friday, but really in spring 438 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: and summer and fall and your install periods and whatnot. 439 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: Understanding how to stick with what works, I think is 440 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: a really really big deal. One of the biggest flaws 441 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: in especially a young play callers methodology is they think 442 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: just because something's on the play sheet, just because something's 443 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: in the game plan, they have to use it. You 444 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: see it every Saturday. You see guys not sticking with 445 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: what works because they overthink the room and they think, well, 446 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: we repped this place seven times this week, and it's 447 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: right here on my laminated play sheet, so I've got 448 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: to call it. No, you don't have to call it. 449 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: You do not have to use one hundred percent of 450 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: your arsenal. There's a lot of skill in keeping it simple. 451 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: Stupid kiss keep it simple. If something's working. If they 452 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: can't stop off tackle to the left, keep running off 453 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: tackle to the left until they stop it. This is 454 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: the most basic of principles, so basic even I can 455 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: understand it. So sticking with what works, that's the first thing. 456 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: The second thing is staying ahead of the game when 457 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: you don't have to think so much when you're in 458 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: a rhythm, like Steve Starkesian is one of the best 459 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: I've seen at this of being in a rhythm and 460 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: thinking seemingly at least thinking two, three, four plays ahead. 461 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: It's so obvious when a guy is just in his bag, 462 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: he's just in his groove, and I don't really know 463 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: how to explain how you get there. I think it 464 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: really helps where we are today. In terms of film study. 465 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: I had a coach tell me one day, because I 466 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: was talking to him about how much younger on average 467 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: head coaches are now when they're hiring, and he said, well, 468 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: that's just technology. And I said, what do you mean. 469 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: He said, well, think about it. I mean, back in 470 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: the day, like in nineteen eighty five, film was actual film, 471 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: and it's all about exposure in reps. That's all it's 472 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: about in football, just as much as in the brokerage business. 473 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: It's all about access to reps and therefore the knowledge 474 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: that you get off of experiencing mental reps or seeing 475 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: them at practice. He said, well, back in the day, 476 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: the reps as a coach that you would experien were 477 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: the reps you saw in practice and then the reps 478 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: you saw on film. But you could not go to 479 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: a grad assistant and say, I want every situation that 480 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: we've had here over the past four seasons on third 481 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: and three to third and seven on grass fields in 482 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: the month of October and have it provided to you 483 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: in the span of five minutes. Now you can expose 484 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: yourself to tens of thousands of more reps because of 485 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: technology than you used to experiencing. That's a big deal 486 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: because you get to advance quicker because you're acquiring knowledge 487 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: at a quicker rate than you would have a generation 488 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: to go well, I think you can also just evolve 489 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: as a play caller faster because you can experience so 490 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: much more Now. There are some lessons that you can't 491 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: microwave your way to. You cannot hit fast forward on 492 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: learning how to manage people, learning the psychological aspects of 493 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: being a coach. You can't rush that, but you can 494 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: you can fast track yourself in some of these some 495 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: of these lanes. And I think one of them is 496 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: you look around, some of the best play callers are 497 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: some of the youngest guys in our game. Now. I 498 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: don't think it's any coincidence that that's coinciding with tremendous 499 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: advancements in the world of technology. It's really amazing what 500 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: you can do. I mean, I was sitting there with 501 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: Shandon Dawson the other day and he was pulling up 502 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: stuff from Houston. He came from Houston. He's pulling up 503 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: situations from Houston just boom, boom, boom. It's really amazing 504 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: to watch. So yeah, I think situational awareness, understanding that 505 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: you need to stick with what works, and being able 506 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: to see around the corner, knowing your personnel, knowing matchups, 507 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: knowing tendencies, and being able to recall that stuff without 508 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: needing to constantly look down at something and having a 509 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: feel the intangible of having a feel for the game. 510 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: I would say that's what makes a really good play caller. 511 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: But hey, above and beyond all that, good players is 512 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: what makes a good play caller because a lot of 513 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: what happens on a football field is after contact, and 514 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: there is no play design that involves a quick hitch 515 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: out in the flat or a quick you know, bubble 516 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: screen out here, and then your guy makes three guys miss. 517 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: That's not play design. That's designing a play to put 518 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: an athlete in space, and then that's the end of 519 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: the play design. And at that point it's up to 520 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: a superior athlete to do what he was recruited to do. 521 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: So get more of those and you'll look like a genius. 522 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: JB from Alexander City, Alabama. Oh my train hopping or 523 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: storm chasing one has to go. No, they don't. I disagree. 524 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: I don't have to participate in these ab scenarios. You 525 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: guys send me I take part in both of these. 526 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: It always occurs to me when we're talking about this 527 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: that somewhere out there someone is listening for the first time. 528 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: They have no clue what's going on. Well, here's what's 529 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: going on. I'm a simple guy. I do a few 530 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: weird things, and one of them is hopping freight trains 531 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: to specific as I would like to get. Although Alexander City, 532 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: Alabama is a very very familiar territory to me, especially 533 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: on the Norfolk Southern lines, if you know what I mean. 534 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: And storm chasing is also something I do, I'm not 535 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: taking either of those away. I apologize. I know this 536 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: is a question and answer. You asked the question. I'm 537 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: supposed to give you the answer. I'm not giving you 538 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: an answer here. I'm not taking either of those away. Now. 539 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: If this were a life or death situation, I guess 540 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: I would have to take train hopping away only because 541 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: that is a thrill, that an adrenaline rush that you 542 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: experience it, but it is kind of the same one 543 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: every time. Whereas storm chasing, no two chases are the same, 544 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: and Bill the late Bill Paxton or Helen Hunt would 545 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: tell you the same thing, No two chases are the same. 546 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: So I guess if I'm power ranking my recreational activities 547 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: storm chasing one train, hopping one b but neither one 548 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: of them are going anywhere. Sorry. Next up, you thought 549 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: I was about to toss to the ad break, I 550 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: know some of you did. No, No, you're not going 551 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: to see it coming this time. I will. I will 552 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: take the crowbar, not to the shin. I'll take the 553 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: crowbar to the calves today. No one sees that coming. 554 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: William from Tallahassee, Florida asks what are your thoughts on 555 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: NFL stadiums versus college football stadiums. Would you rather go 556 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville's new design or Maverick Stadium in Logan, Utah? 557 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: Why or why not? Now? Even if you haven't listened 558 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: to me before, but you just know what I'm about. 559 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: You know what this podcast is about. There's no question here. 560 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: One of the phrases I despise is and it's not 561 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: even close. But in this particular case, my answer is 562 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: give me the college football stadium, and it's not even close, 563 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: And I don't really care if it's one of the 564 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: more rundown, dumpy college football stadiums versus one of the newest, 565 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: most immaculate NFL stadiums. I like the where in hair 566 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: of college football stadiums. I like the antiquated old look 567 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: of college football stadiums. We're showing LSU right now. If 568 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: you were in the studio right now with me, you 569 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: could see we showed Bryant Denny Stadium. A lot of 570 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: these places I've been to like a dozen times. What's 571 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: funny is when you walk in some of these older stadiums. 572 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: Penn State's a good example, you can see the years 573 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: that the updates were made. You'll be walking through portions 574 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: of some of these venues and there's architecture that was 575 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: built in the nineteen forties, and then you walk ten 576 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: feet over and there's architecture that was built in two 577 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: thousand and three. And it's like a little erector set. 578 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: It's like a Lego set, just different parts were built 579 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: at different times. I love that. I've also told you 580 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: many times what I do when I get to a 581 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: venue I've never been to before is I'll get there 582 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: really early, because we can get in there early, sometimes 583 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: even the night before. I did this at Autin Stadium 584 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: last year in Oregon. I had them take me over 585 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: there the night before and I just I walked the 586 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: entire venue. Pretty old stadium, and I love going up 587 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: and down the tunnels. I love seeing the locker rooms. 588 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: I love seeing how hard it is on the opposing team. 589 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: It's great, it's wonderful. Half of those locker rooms aren't 590 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: even big enough for them to fit in. Home field 591 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: advantage is real in college football. I think there are 592 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: less amenities in a college football stadium, which is a 593 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: good thing. It forces you to focus on the game. 594 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: It also it filters out the wine and cheese crowd 595 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: a little bit. And in the NFL, they want to 596 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: attract that crowd because those folks pay more money. I 597 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: get it, I know what the name of the game is. 598 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: But you know, in Notre Dame Stadium, you're sitting on 599 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: a bleacher in the big house and arbor, you're sitting 600 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: on a bleacher unless you pay big, big money, and 601 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: even if you want to, there aren't a ton of 602 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: those kind of seats in there. I respect it because 603 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: that's my kind of folks. I mean, we are the 604 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: same in that sense. I would much rather sit in 605 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: a place where there's no backrest. Where I'm sitting and 606 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: I've only got like eighteen inches between me and a 607 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: little sticker that indicates where the next seat starts. I'd 608 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: rather sit in that kind of place if I know, 609 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 1: in turn, everyone else is going to be as rabid 610 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: and as passionate as me. What I don't want is 611 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to pay a little bit less, or 612 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to pay a little bit more and 613 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: have the cushiony chair back and have someone bringing food 614 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: to me and look over to my left and right, 615 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: and all I have is people just taking pictures of 616 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: themselves for three and a half hours, and they couldn't 617 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: even tell you that it's third down in three and 618 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: this conversion. Could you run out the clock? I'm not 619 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: interested in that scene. College football folks are into it, 620 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: and I think in many ways it's because the stadiums themselves. 621 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: You got to be a warrior, You got to be 622 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: kind of a trooper in your own right to put 623 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: yourself through that for three or four hours and to 624 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: not care about it, to actually embrace it. Whereas in 625 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: the NFL, I mean, if the Jacksonville Jaguars played in 626 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: the Swamp, the Jacksonville Jaguars would not sell nearly enough 627 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: tickets to pack that place because the NFL crowd is 628 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: not in that. It's one of the beautiful differences between 629 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: the NFL game and the college game. And I know 630 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: there's a big effort out there to push the college 631 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: game towards the NFL game. It's not a mystery why 632 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: the NFL game makes more money. NFL teams are worth 633 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: more than college football teams. I don't think that's a 634 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: problem calls NFL teams are worth more than everything. The 635 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: NFL is worth more than everything. There's a lot of 636 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: beauty in understanding there's a maximization of your value when 637 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: maintaining your authenticity. There is a maximum amount of worth 638 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: that college football can have without sacrificing college football. And 639 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be apples to apples to the NFL. 640 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: And one of the great lines of demarcation between the 641 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: Sunday game and the Saturday game is I go to 642 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl in Dallas to watch OU Texas. There 643 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: are no suites. I told the story two years ago 644 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: when I was out there. I'm standing next to Mark 645 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: Cuban on the sideline. He's a billionaire. There's no suite 646 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: for him, so he's either going to sit in the 647 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: stands or stand on the field. But there is no 648 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: luxury suite. Mark, you mean can't bring thirty of his 649 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: friends over there to the Cotton Bowl. Why? Because the 650 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: stadium was built I think five minutes after the Civil 651 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: War ended. And that is exactly what it looks and 652 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: feels like. There's one tunnel in, there's one tunnel out. 653 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: Both teams share it. It's in the middle of a 654 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: state fair. Cowboys aren't going to do that, nor should they. 655 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: They need to play their game. We'll play our game, 656 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: and that's my platform, is College Football Commissioner. Ah, it 657 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: feels good to get that off my chest. Eden is 658 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: from Jonesboro, Arkansas. What is your favorite trophy game? Very simple, Eden, 659 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: it is Floyida Rosdale. I don't know that you guys 660 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: are intimately familiar with Floyd, but you should be, especially 661 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: in Arkansas because he's a pig. Florida Rosdale is to me, 662 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: the greatest trophy in all of sports, the greatest trophy 663 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: in college football. No, I didn't say football, college or 664 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: pro I said sports. I said, I'm talking Stanley Cup, 665 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: I'm talking Heisman, all of them. You can respect those 666 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: trophies and I do, and the significance of those trophies 667 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: is infinitely greater. The Lombardi Trophy means more that Crystal 668 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: Football in college football, because I don't acknowledge the new 669 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: trophy that Crystal football in college football. Yes, it means 670 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: more than Floyd of Rosedale. But if you're just going 671 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: on aesthetics, I love that little pig. Love him. One 672 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: of my goals, and I know we got a big 673 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: audience and someone's gonna be able to help us out here. 674 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: One of my goals is to get a Floyd of 675 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: Rosedale for the set. We've got some Chili of Supremacy. 676 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: We've got some stars that I stole off Pat Foley's 677 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: desk when we were still down in Brentwood. We've got 678 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: a late kick helmet, we have got a personalized cow 679 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: bell that someone has sent us. I got to get 680 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: a Floyida of Rosedale and we will feature him on 681 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: the set somehow, someway, Colin. I know I'm making big 682 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: promises here that you're gonna have to come through for 683 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: or come through on for me, But I gotta get 684 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: a floida Rosdale. So anyone out there who can help 685 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: me out. That's Iowa Minnesota, by the way, And I 686 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: know it's for a kid from rural Georgia. You may wonder, like, 687 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: where did that come from? Well, open yourselves up a 688 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: little bit. Just experience the world outside your own backyard. 689 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: Think about what we have here. We have Iowa versus Minnesota, 690 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: and those teams have played forever and they go knockheads 691 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: for four quarters. And they're not playing for millions of dollars. 692 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: They're not playing for a job. There's no girl on 693 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: the line. It's just a statue of a pig. That's 694 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: exactly the way God intended this sport to be played. 695 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: It's wonderful. It doesn't matter if you don't get it. 696 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: You probably don't get that this is coming either, little 697 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: disrespectful to Floyda Rosedale to put him right next to 698 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: a surprise ad Toss, the little comic cosy ad Toss. 699 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: But I had to sneak it up on you somehow, 700 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: and I think think we succeeded there. But yeah, so 701 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: just to revisit, we got to get a Floida Rosdale. 702 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: I was not kidding about that. We got to get 703 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: a Florida Rosdale at Big ten Oh. Next up Unsalted 704 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: HOGI in Houston, Texas hits US up and says, what 705 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: would you prefer to watch over the course of five 706 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: years in college football? Would you rather a dynasty of 707 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: a couple of teams for them that are leagues above 708 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: the competition, or would you rather see parody where every 709 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: year there are four new teams claiming those top spots. 710 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm not a sadist. Give all things equal, give me 711 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: the parody, give me two thousand and seven, Just give 712 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 1: me a car wreck. I don't choose dynasty's over competitive balance. 713 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,720 Speaker 1: Contrary to some semi popular belief out there some people 714 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: out there, because I read the comments and I see 715 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: you alleged this. You think that I want to see JR. 716 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: Go on a run where they win seven out of 717 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: nine titles. You think I've thoroughly enjoyed watching Alabama. While 718 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 1: I have enjoyed it, it's an enjoyment from a sense 719 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: of appreciating excellence. What I don't buy into is this 720 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: notion that I have favoritism for one over the other. No. No, 721 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: I would much rather seventeen programs be operating at that level. 722 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: What I don't believe in, and this is where you 723 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: separate me from some of the more casual minded who 724 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: follow or cover the sport is. I don't watch Georgia 725 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: do what they're doing and say we got to do 726 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: something about Georgia. I don't watch Nick Saban do what 727 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: he's done and say something's got to be done about 728 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: Nick Saban. I look at the rest of the sport 729 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: instead and say, what are you going to do about 730 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: Nick Saban? What are you going to do about Georgia 731 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: back in the two thousands, what are you going to 732 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 1: do about Pete Carroll at USC It's not their fault 733 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: for dominating. It's up to you to stop them. It's 734 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,240 Speaker 1: up to you to meet that standard, because you're probably 735 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: not gonna stop them, so it's up to you to 736 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: meet that standard. The perfect world is not where everyone's 737 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: average and therefore there's a ton of parody. The perfect 738 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 1: world is where you got a bunch of really good 739 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: to elite teams, and that's your parody. And that's the 740 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 1: same way it should happen in life. That's how competition works. 741 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: You should have a bunch of people rising to meet 742 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: an elite standard rather than a bunch of outsiders going 743 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: full crab mentality and trying to pull the one crab 744 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: that starts climbing out of the bucket down so it 745 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: can just it can just waddle around with the rest 746 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: of the crabs at the bottom of the bucket. That's 747 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: not that's not what great college football is about. So 748 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: if there's a world where we get a whole bunch 749 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: of teams like LSU rises to that level again this year, 750 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: or Miami or Florida State or NC State rises to 751 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 1: the level Clemson has been at, Texas is back, Oklahoma's back. 752 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: The half dozen teams on the West Coast in the 753 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: Pac twelve with over under preseason win totals of six 754 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: or eight and a half or higher, they all fulfill 755 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: on that. That would be wonderful. That's the kind of 756 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: parody parody with an it y on the end. By 757 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: the way, that's the kind of parody I want, and 758 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: I will. I will openly root for it, but I 759 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: will not look at excellence. I will not look at 760 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: a dynasty and frown at it because no one else 761 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: rose up to stop it. That's why I think Dabbo 762 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: and Clemson deserve a ton of credit because they did 763 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the Bama run. They won 764 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 1: themselves two titles against Alabama. That's why Kirby and Georgia 765 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,399 Speaker 1: deserve a ton of credit because they have risen up 766 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 1: right in the heart of the Alabama dynasty, and for 767 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: all we know, they've started one of their own that 768 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: should be celebrated. Let's go to the next question. It's 769 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: about to get personal. The next question does not have 770 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: to do with me. It's from Chris and he asks, 771 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: you mentioned your staff at Late Kick a lot. It 772 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: sounds like y'all are really close. Were these guys with 773 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: you during your independent days? No, they were not. Let 774 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: me tell you how it happened. I've told the story 775 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: several times of the way that we just built the show, 776 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: so you can find that in our archives. But when 777 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: I was down in Columbus and Shannon Terry called and 778 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: made the offer for me to bring myself and ultimately 779 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: the show up to twenty four to seven and CBS, 780 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: I got here and on the first day. Now director 781 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: Colin remembers this vividly. The first day I walked in, 782 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: I had a meeting with Shannon and some of the 783 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: folks here, like Barton Simmons I think was in there. 784 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: He since moved on, and we were just talking about 785 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: vision and stuff, and Shannon to his credit, he said, hey, look, 786 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: we got some resources, like, we've got a studio, but 787 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: we don't have any shows, so you're here to do 788 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: what we ended up doing with Late Kate. But in 789 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: the meantime, can you go just shoot some videos today? 790 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: So I went over to their studio. This was done 791 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: in Brentwood, Tennessee. It's like ten minutes south of downtown 792 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: where we are now in the old office. And I 793 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: went down there, or went in there, and we recorded 794 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: some videos. Well, let me tell you who else was 795 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: in there. A guy by the name of director Colin 796 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 1: was in there. Direct Colin was being very much misused, 797 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: I would say, like his skills set was not being 798 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: harnessed at all. And since I had come from the 799 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: world where I was around people in production, I knew 800 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: it immediately. So Colin is like me. He never talks 801 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 1: to anyone socially, very reclusive. We sat there and talked 802 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: for like an hour, and I pitched him my entire 803 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: vision and he was like picking up what I was 804 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: putting down, finishing my sentences, and so he and I 805 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: immediately started putting together mock drafts and we started doing 806 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: dry runs of what we thought this show should look 807 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,479 Speaker 1: like we had it down like nearly immediately. If you've 808 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: watched the show, you know we have not changed the 809 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: format since we started it. Everything from camera angles to blocking, 810 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: to segmentation, to the way we handle post production. We've 811 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: largely taken the same format for about four years, three 812 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: or three years now. And so then we get Downtown 813 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: post COVID, we start to open back up and producer 814 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 1: Jesse comes into our lives because producer Jesse's up in Connecticut, woof, 815 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: and he's working for CBS Sports HQ up there. And 816 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: one day Jesse had to fill in producing the show. 817 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: I'd never met him. He was doing it remotely because 818 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: we were having to run the show through Connecticut. Sometimes 819 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: we have to do that. It's technical. I don't want 820 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: to bore you with it. Well, sometimes people would screw 821 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: it up. Jesse never did. Jesse nailed it every time, 822 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: so much so that it felt like you worked with us. 823 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 1: And so I started going to anyone I could and 824 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: getting in the ear of management saying, hey, there's this 825 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: little angel up there in Connecticut. I think you should 826 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: live in Nashville. I would love for him to come 827 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: work for us. So then we got producer Jesse. Now 828 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: he's just blown up by producer Jesse. Stop. And then 829 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 1: Bradley the Associate was actually with me. He's the one 830 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: I knew back in my independent days. And Bradley the 831 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: Associate was behind the scenes down at WLTZ down in 832 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: Columbus when I was working there. And Bradley the Associate, 833 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: unbeknownst to ninety nine percent of you, actually appeared on 834 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 1: air a few times down there. And that footage doesn't 835 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,959 Speaker 1: exist to my knowledge. It's been burned, but I would 836 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 1: pay good money if anyone down there could find it. 837 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, Bradley the Associate has been with us a 838 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: little over a year now. He's come up here and 839 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: it's a very very tight knit group. It's very closed circle. 840 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: Hard to get into it because we got the folks 841 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: we need, but at the same time, we're always looking 842 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: for more. Like President Tyler, for example, has been doing 843 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 1: a great job with our shorts. He's in the other room. 844 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: I assume he's still in there. So yeah, we got 845 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: some other folks like Jamison handles the podcasting for us 846 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: a lot of nights. I'm using loose nicknames for a 847 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: lot of these people, by the way, because that's how 848 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: I call them around the office. So it is a 849 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: very close knit group. It's people you don't have to 850 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: be over the shoulder of, you know, the kind the 851 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 1: folks who you can trust to hand responsibility to and 852 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: they execute it at as high a level as the 853 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 1: standard is set at every time. Those folks don't screw 854 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: things up. And so yeah, when you find folks like that, 855 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: you take care of them and you keep them around 856 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: and you give them shout outs on air. That's what 857 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: we do. So in lieu of just having fourteen other 858 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 1: faces on the show, we're going to keep the format 859 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 1: as it is or as it is. But yeah, we 860 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: got we got a really good crew here, and I 861 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 1: think that's pretty obvious in the product that we put out. 862 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we just came off the road in Miami 863 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: all week and proceeded to do a seventy seven minute 864 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 1: show Sunday night, and it was the third best one 865 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: we've ever done from my own little grading system. So yeah, 866 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,839 Speaker 1: they don't drop the ball, and I try not to either. 867 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: It's very much, very much hit or miss in Miami. 868 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, they do a really good job. I appreciate 869 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: you guys for checking out the pod. Please make sure 870 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: you're subscribed to it. That's all I need to do. 871 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: Share it. Yes, that's wonderful. Our numbers are great though. 872 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: I just need you to subscribe to it. That's it. 873 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: And maybe get mom and dad too as well. So 874 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: for a direct com for producer Jesse for Bradley the associate, 875 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate. Take here. Have a great rest of 876 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: your day and God bless