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Speaker 2: You're saying that humans need fantasy to make life bearable.

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Speaker 1: What is up of everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex podcast from the Action Network

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Speaker 2: and Fantasy Lads. I'm your host, Chris Rayvaon and today

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk all about Upside. We're gonna go round

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Speaker 2: by round with our top Upside player top Upside picking

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Speaker 2: each round and today joining me, I have one of

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Speaker 2: the top Fantasy rankers in the game maker, Sean Kerner,

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Speaker 2: as well as special guest Chris Jamino of Rodo Grinders,

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Speaker 2: who is a longtime friend of the show vadamn before

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Speaker 2: excited to talk with him about the best ball. We

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Speaker 2: couldn't even get you know, two or three minutes you

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Speaker 2: know pre show without debating which Bill's wide receiver to

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Speaker 2: take in in Bastball this year. So it should be

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Speaker 2: a good show. Chris, Welcome to the Flex to another episode,

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Speaker 2: and Sean, how's it going. Let's I don't even wanna,

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Speaker 2: you know, hold us up. So let's get right into

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Speaker 2: it with round one. Chris, why don't you start us off?

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Speaker 2: Who's your highest upside?

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Speaker 1: Round one? Picking your opinion?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just real quick, Just what do I define as upside?

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about guys who have the physical and professional

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Speaker 4: skills profiles to really reach the either spike week potential

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Speaker 4: or total season upside. I'm talking about guys with concentrated

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Speaker 4: largely because of the concentrated usage probability, but also he's

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Speaker 4: you some floor in this offense, in which the depth

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Speaker 4: chart has not changed virtually at all. From a target

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Speaker 4: share perspective, he was incredibly highly targeted a season ago.

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Speaker 4: Now we've probably improved the quarterback play on the team,

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Speaker 4: and we're talking about a guy who scored seven touchdowns

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Speaker 4: on over one hundred targets last year. I think there's

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Speaker 4: some upside room on that. His a dot was minuscule

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Speaker 4: ninth to monk qualified players. He's twenty two years old.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, certainly, Russell Wilson I trust a

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Speaker 4: little bit more than I trusted Daniel Jones. God forbid.

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Speaker 4: Jamis Winston never gets in the game. And of course

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Speaker 4: everyone likes Jackson Dart. So there's a lot to talk

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Speaker 4: about here with neighbors. But mainly, I just love the

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Speaker 4: concentrated workload, possibility of being the wide receiver one, and

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Speaker 2: I actually have a really interesting question now that you

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Speaker 2: on stacking neighbors, Not with Wilson, not with Dart, but

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Speaker 2: for wire Resciver's Like, did you see Jerry Judy last

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Speaker 1: The year before and he was doing nothing all year

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Speaker 1: Any thoughts on that.

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Speaker 4: If you gambler when it comes to the quarterback situations, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: Sean. What about you? Round one?

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Speaker 5: He's eight, you know, he's twenty three years old. He's

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Speaker 5: Michael Pennix Junior should help. I mean, Cousins was like

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Speaker 2: I mean he's had kind of like he's set up

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Speaker 2: Because this guy, him and Justin Jefferson both played seventeen

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Speaker 2: underdog points. I mean, it's just absolutely and more. And

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Speaker 1: Like that's that just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: So just I wanted to mention him, But the guy

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Speaker 2: I think Jamior Gibbs has a really interesting case because

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Speaker 2: nearly two thousand scrimmageyards last year in a part time

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on on Gibbs and like, is there any

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Speaker 4: Look, I'm not fading any Lions right now. I'm a

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Speaker 4: little bit concerned about the coordinator change. But these guys

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Speaker 4: these guys are also explosive. That I mean, Jamiir Gibbs

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Speaker 4: which is just insane. He's just extremely, extremely dangerous. I

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Speaker 4: do think that the concern is there's only so many,

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Speaker 4: uh you know, there's so many mouths to feed here,

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Speaker 4: like which one of the can you get the concentrated usage?

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Speaker 4: And of course of my roster construction preference favors wide

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Speaker 4: But I will say Jamiir Gibbs is absolutely a stud

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Speaker 4: and you're not going to catch me saying ill about

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Speaker 4: him on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and that's kind of my point.

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Speaker 2: It's, you know, when you're kind of doing your projections

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Speaker 2: and it you know, it's kind of you have to

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Speaker 2: not going to get Jamior.

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Speaker 1: Gibbs with a top tier workload.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's the point with both, you know, both

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Speaker 5: they're both gonna be able to provide value where they're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just it just kind of occurred to me that,

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Speaker 1: You know minds, offensive minds.

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Speaker 2: I guess they're gonna make decisions and it just it

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Speaker 2: what gives twenty touches a game, Montgomery five and Gibbs

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Speaker 2: just go straight Biblical and it's just, you know that

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Speaker 4: Let's go to around two. Jamino, who he got Drake

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Speaker 4: London is entering his age twenty four season, physically gifted

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Speaker 4: catchable targets seventy two and a half percent rate last year.

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Speaker 4: You'll get the ball in his catch radius and let's

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Speaker 4: see what happens. Of course, we've got Penix coming into

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Speaker 4: him do exactly that. He's escaped the fantasy prison of

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Speaker 4: Arthur Smith and whelming QB play from his early seasons.

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Speaker 4: The depth chart basically hasn't changed. Just like with neighbors,

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Speaker 4: you know, the probability of any of these other guys

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Speaker 4: they do more than you probably think. He's ranked highest

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Speaker 3: This is a.

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Speaker 4: Combination, call option, skills, profile, all of it. I mean,

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Speaker 4: just get me Drake London this year. I do think

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Speaker 2: Oh, Drake Grunnon's a beast, and not too many guys

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Speaker 5: Kurna who you got gotta go with my guy, Brian

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Speaker 5: Thomas Junior here going very early in round two. But

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Speaker 5: you know, I was very high on him as a rookie,

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Speaker 5: talked about him nearly every episode this time last year,

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Speaker 5: so I already had very high priors on him. My

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Speaker 5: a really good rookie season, I'm still gonna be higher

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Speaker 5: he had one of the best rookie seasons ever. You know,

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Speaker 5: his sixteen point seven PPR points per game was the

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Speaker 5: Famers and fancy gods. So it's very good company to

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Speaker 5: be in. So he's in during year two, you know,

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Speaker 5: could only get better and I think, you know, this

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Speaker 5: So the sky's limit with him, and like at the

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Speaker 5: able to get him in round two will look like

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Speaker 5: a steal. So he still has massive, massive upside and

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Speaker 5: the fact that you can get him in round two

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Speaker 2: Only took two rounds for us to get to land

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Speaker 2: I already I already got the Jags the wind total

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Speaker 1: Like, I'm all in on Liam Cohen.

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Speaker 2: The only dude, one of the only dudes that had

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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen in Tampa Bay. I mean, he takes him

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Speaker 2: from twenty twenty point five points to twenty nine and

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Speaker 2: forty five hundred pass yards, and a career high in

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Speaker 2: rush yards. I mean, this offense could take a major

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Speaker 1: To this point.

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Speaker 2: But I'll just put it like this, since the nineteen

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Speaker 4: Oh, look, I just want to chime in real quick.

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Speaker 4: I've been taking him in round one, so I didn't

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Speaker 3: I can knock that. Yeah, there you go, There you go.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into round number three. I think we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have some more overlap here. But Jamino, once again, you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely not the senting. I'm down with your guys pick.

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Speaker 4: But I do think that when you look at Tyreek

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Speaker 4: obviously the age is a red blinking warning sign with

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Speaker 4: anyone who's thirty one years old, at some point everyone

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Speaker 4: think we're quite there yet with Tyreek Kalle. If you

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Speaker 4: just look at his neck gen speeds from last year,

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Speaker 4: clocking in with top ten fastest ball carrier speeds, and

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Speaker 4: in recent seasons. Now we're down into the third round

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Speaker 4: for the guy, It's just a price based play for me.

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Speaker 4: I'm not like absolutely in love with the idea of

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Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, when their name

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Speaker 4: one of the fastest players in the league, I'm still

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Speaker 4: and I will definitely have Tyreek Hill teams.

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Speaker 2: Funny enough, I was actually gonna if I if I

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Speaker 2: And mc daniel was just talking about how okay, you

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Speaker 2: and so like a Chan's really gonna kind of take

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much more of a role he

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Speaker 2: that would be another guy to that that I would

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Speaker 2: put in this category. Sean, you and I are on

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Speaker 2: the same page again, and then next round it looks

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Speaker 2: like you and Jimino are are on the same page.

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Speaker 2: But U talk to me about your round three pick.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I we are going with Jackson Smith Nijigba.

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Speaker 3: But I think it was here three both wide receivers are.

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Speaker 5: that's when he you know, became a top five wide

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Speaker 5: you know, the greatest quarterback in the league. But I

435
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 5: think this is a setup for him to just have

436
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 5: a massive, massive year three breakout.

437
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 3: I think.

438
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say it is a down gron.

439
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Sam Donald maybe could put up He's put

440
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 2: up better numbers at times, but he can't read a

441
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 2: defense like Geno. That's why he That's why he got

442
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: destroyed essentially by like a game plan that like than

443
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 2: the entire world predicted in back to back weeks. So

444
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 2: but I think the I would say, yeah, like downside wise,

445
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: there is some downside, but I upside, I mean, you

446
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 2: have mentioned it twenty three year old probably going to

447
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: be a target high. I think cup han't cut there

448
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: like just enough at receiver so that you're not just

449
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 2: gonna be like super run heavy and then you're I

450
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: think that the Seahawks could be really bad this year too.

451
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: I think every team in their division is better than

452
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: than them, including Arizona. You do have a new oc Kubiak,

453
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 2: who did oversee Justin Jefferson's one hundred sixty seven target,

454
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 2: one hundred eight catch, sixteen hundred plus yard age twenty

455
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: two season a few years ago in Minnesota. So I

456
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 2: know Kubiak's kind of been a little more run heavy

457
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: or tight end heavy at different points. But when he

458
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: has a receiver, a talenter wide receiver, he's gonna get

459
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: him the ball. He's that's what's happened in the past.

460
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: But I look at the stretch weeks eight through sixteen

461
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: last year, sixty nine or more receiving yards in every

462
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: game over that stretch, with an average of seven catches

463
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 2: for ninety six point three per game, with five touchdowns

464
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: in eight games.

465
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: So that's kind of his.

466
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 2: Ceiling, Like he didn't be close to one hundred yard

467
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: per game guy, you know, and the fact that I

468
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: think the team is destined for last place in the division.

469
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 2: I do think there's some some target higging upside, and

470
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't think Cupp is you know, Cup has probably

471
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 2: just stopped dropping roll like Tyler Lockett, he's going going

472
00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: in that direction.

473
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he proved that's me wrong.

474
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: But I mean the fact that McVeigh and Stafford couldn't

475
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: really make it work there last year down stretch is

476
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: kind of telling. So yeah, Feiel pretty good about the

477
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: upside for JSN Round four GMINO.

478
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 4: Well, yet, speaking of like fast guys, like I did

479
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 4: last round, there was eight different occasions where if you

480
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 4: go to next Gen's like Rick Non Premium leader board,

481
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 4: where you'll see Jamison Williams name from last year just

482
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 4: absolutely explosive all over the field, you know, creating separation

483
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 4: schematically and with his physical skills giving him any kind

484
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 4: of running room after the catches a disaster for a defense.

485
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 4: This electrifying, you know kind of play isn't necessarily like okay,

486
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 4: well fade is ceiling right. We now we've seen like

487
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: the upside of Jamison Williams. Absolutely not.

488
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 3: Neither one of you.

489
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 4: Guys can sit here and tell me with a straight

490
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 4: face that you think there's no way in any universe

491
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 4: that this couldn't be the wide receiver one on his

492
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 4: own team right now when you see he's what he's doing.

493
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 4: They won't. They'll continue to use Aman Ross sat Brown

494
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 4: in the capacity that they've been using him. But as

495
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 4: far as fantasy production is concerned, you know, God forbid

496
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 4: anything happens to Amen Raw. I mean, this guy could

497
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 4: absolutely destroy the entire Best Ball slate if he gets

498
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 4: more opportunity than he's been getting in the past. That

499
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 4: being said, you don't need that in round four. You

500
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 4: could get the production he's already capable of and feel

501
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 4: fine about that. And of course with the spike week

502
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 4: potential and the benefits of that, especially in the playoff weeks,

503
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 4: you've got to love Jameis and Williams in Bestball formats,

504
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 4: there's just no reason not to draft this guy in

505
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 4: my opinion.

506
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, James and Williams could absolutely you could

507
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: see him being a number one receiver because he's gonna

508
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: get those explosive catches and this year, I don't know

509
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 2: how much you've kind of dove into, like just the

510
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: overall kind of outlook for the Lions, but brutal schedule,

511
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: gard Gov not gonna be able to get his handheld

512
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: by you know, Ben Johnson anymore. Like this team could

513
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 2: take a step back and actually have passing scripts more often,

514
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: because remember this team would just blow teams out last

515
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: year about thirty and you know they'd That's why they

516
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: were able to give Montgomery so many carries. I mean

517
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 2: they were given Sioni Vaki and what's what's my guy's

518
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 2: name Reynolds carries because they were just yeah, man, So

519
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: this is I think the passing game volume wise could

520
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: take a step forward, and you might need more of

521
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: those you know, you know, downfield completions just to stay

522
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: afloat this year if you're the Lions. I mean that's

523
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: I mean, the last projected last place team is the Bears,

524
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: and the Bears could could see when we win that division.

525
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I think you can see you're gonna

526
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 2: see more passing. It might not be as efficient from golf,

527
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,719
Speaker 2: but definitely benefits.

528
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: A guy like Jamison Williams Kerner. You're on Jamo as well?

529
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think Jamo is the guy in this

530
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 5: round still just twenty four years old, should be entering

531
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 5: his prime. I mean, I have to remember his first

532
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 5: two seasons. I mean, he missed a ton of time

533
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 5: due to injury, gambling, suspensions, things like that. So last

534
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 5: year was his first real season and he broke out.

535
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 5: He was more consistent than normal, and you know, he

536
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 5: obviously had those spiked weeks. He actually finished in the

537
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 5: top twelve twenty nine percent of the time, which is

538
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 5: the fifteenth highest rate at wide receiver. Great for best ball,

539
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 5: you're gonna get those spike weeks. But kind of what

540
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 5: Jamino was talking about, where you know, the last two seasons,

541
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 5: there's only been one game when either aman Ra or

542
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 5: Laporta missed time and he went four catches for one

543
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 5: hundred and twenty one yards in a touchdown. So a

544
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 5: lot of other receivers get, you know, handful of games

545
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 5: every season where they're kind of moving up the target

546
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 5: pecking tree. He's only had one game with that, So again,

547
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 5: he has an untapped upside. We're not saying that aman

548
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 5: Ra or laporter is gonna miss extended time, but if

549
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 5: they were, you know, his ceiling is even higher. So yeah,

550
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 5: and I agree, I think the Lions could be in

551
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 5: more trailing game scripts they're gonna have to throw more

552
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 5: this year, so a lot of things could set up

553
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 5: Jamo to have just a monster season.

554
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 3: There's a lot of.

555
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 4: Teams you could put him on right now where he

556
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 4: would be demanding that they're demanding the number one status

557
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 4: right Like, It's just he's in a situation where he's

558
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: got like a lot of other talented players around him.

559
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 4: That's really what I mean to say when I say

560
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 4: you could be the best receiver on the team is

561
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: that he's talented enough that that coordinators should want to

562
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: scheme him the ball and they will.

563
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely and yeah, like this this guy. And he The

564
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: really good thing too, is at one point in his

565
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: career he was more of like a eighty ish snap

566
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: guy percent snap guy, and he really start to up

567
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: that and you're down a stretch and you know to

568
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: be you know, ninety ninety five percent. So he should

569
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: be on the field every snap this year. I almost

570
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: want Jamil but actually got a little bit more of

571
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: a contrarian play. And it's gonna sound not as sexy,

572
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna make the case for dk metcalp And

573
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: there's a couple of things that kind of put me

574
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: on to him when I'm kind of.

575
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: Looking at him versus a guy like Jamo.

576
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: And the one thing is Jamo still does have a

577
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: potential league leader in targets I had on his own

578
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: team ahead of them, whereas.

579
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: I think DK Metcaalf could lead the league in targets.

580
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: And you might.

581
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: Say Pittsburgh run heavy, defensive minded NFC North Pittsburgh. But

582
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: number one, I've been kind of paying attention to to

583
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: some some of the things Mike Tomlin has been saying,

584
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: and you know, he was talking about last year, how

585
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: we're not going to continue to try the same things,

586
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: you know, or we would be crazy. And remember, at

587
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 2: one point, the Steelers were a pass heavy, veteran quarterback

588
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: target you just just force feed the ball to your

589
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: number one receiver and Antonio Brown every game no matter what,

590
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: uh and and live with the results kind of team.

591
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: And then they kind of gone away from that, and

592
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: you know, trying to kind of tried to get by

593
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: with this defense and it's not really worked.

594
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: So I don't think you.

595
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: I don't think you'd signed Aaron Rodgers to hand off.

596
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: I don't think he signs if he's gonna hand off.

597
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: And it kind of reminds me of last year where

598
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: you have Rodgers going, you know, with his Jets supposedly

599
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: elite defense that wasn't. But you know, everyone's like, all right,

600
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: they're gonna be like this run heavy team.

601
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: No upside there.

602
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers was second in the league in attempts, fifth

603
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: in attempts per game. I think you could see something

604
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: similar to that this year, kind of like that that

605
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: that ghost of Ben Roethlisberger year where he was like

606
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: terrible and throwing only short stuff but they were like

607
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: eleven and oh to start the year and throwing like

608
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: forty times a game because he needed to throw that

609
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: many times to get his two hundred eighty yards or

610
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: whatever it was.

611
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: I think you could see something similar to that here.

612
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: So I see a pass to metcalf weed in the

613
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: league in targets, I think he's just gonna be absolutely

614
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: force fed the ball. Pittsburgh has a win total of

615
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: eight and a half juiced to the under, which means they're,

616
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: you know, at least the market has expected them for

617
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: the first time to not have a winning season, so

618
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: they could They're gonna be in some trailing game. Script

619
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: schedules not easy either, so I think there is I'm

620
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: not a fan of Rogers at all, but I do

621
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: kind of see a scenario where Metcalf is just a

622
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: target monster. Rogers targeted Garrett Wilson twenty six point five

623
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: percent of his routes before Devonte got there in the

624
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: first six weeks of the season, including a twenty one

625
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: target game, and then once Davante arrived, Davante was targeted

626
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: on twenty seven and a half percent of his routes.

627
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: That is an elite target per route production.

628
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: And I think Metcalf can essentially be like a higher

629
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: volume version of what they kind of wanted Pickens to be.

630
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: And you know, he could even see Antonio Brown type

631
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: volume on this team because Rogers is going to control

632
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: the offense. I don't think Arthur Smith is gonna look

633
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: Rogers in the eye and say, now let's hand off

634
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: to Kenni's gain well again or whoever it is. So

635
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: I think there's some kind of sneaky, un sexy Steeler

636
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: upside with Metcalf. And remember the Steelers get into shootouts

637
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: with the Bengals now, so there's always that all right

638
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: round number five, Domino, who do you like here?

639
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 4: I try to keep it tight because we got to

640
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 4: get through some rounds here. Let's talk about the Broncos backfield.

641
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: RJ.

642
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 4: Harvey was drafted and they openly discussed the to draft

643
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 4: a joker. So immediately, when I think about Sean Payton

644
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: in years past and what that means for the running

645
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 4: back in this offense, it certainly doesn't mean the mark

646
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 4: ingram role, right.

647
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: I think we're more.

648
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: Looking at the Alvin Kamara role, presuming that he gets

649
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: through the summer earns the right to take that role.

650
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit of speculation that that's

651
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 4: just definitely going to happen that needs to play out here,

652
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 4: but I'm betting on it. I've watched enough of this

653
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 4: guy's college footage to see that he has the joker

654
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 4: written all over the back of his jersey that you

655
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 4: could read clearly as he's running down the field on massive,

656
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 4: massive explosive touchdown plays all throughout his career. Sean Payton

657
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 4: says he's got an affinity for this kind of archetype

658
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 4: and he certainly looked for every opportunity to mention that

659
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: this is what he was going to take in the draft,

660
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 4: And when he came up on the board, I got

661
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 4: excited about it. I was like stoked. I was like,

662
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: I could see very clearly that was what was going

663
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: to happen here. Hopefully that comes to fruition because I

664
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 4: have been drafting him so far and around number five,

665
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: I think the upside is, of course, you know, I've

666
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 4: currently got it projected for like low thirties rushing share.

667
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 4: If he actually gets more rushing share than that as

668
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: well and gets looks at the goal line, that would

669
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 4: also very much improve upon the projection already have for him,

670
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: which is good enough for me to take him in

671
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: around five.

672
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I see what you did there with the

673
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: Denver Joker little double one tandres there Kerner who you

674
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: got in around five.

675
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to go with George here.

676
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 5: You know, brock Beuters led the tight ends last year

677
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 5: in total Fantasy points, but George Kittle actually led the

678
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 5: position points per game, So he's already you know, coming

679
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 5: off a ceiling season even for Kittle, but it's really

680
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 5: hard to see too much of a drop off. And

681
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 5: you know what's gonna be his age thirty one season,

682
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 5: especially with you know, Deebo Samuel now in Washington, Brandon

683
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 5: are you probably.

684
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: Won't be ready by week one. Probably draft him.

685
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: Don't draft white people, don't draft That's I already know

686
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: we're gonna be in like August, and I'm gonna be

687
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: right like guys are not drafting Brandon Ayuk, who's gonna

688
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: miss the first x amount of games and be completely

689
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: miss mispriced first.

690
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna miss the first round of games and

691
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 5: then when he does return, you know, play limited snaps.

692
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: So right, just right, And.

693
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: She was a fourth best receiver on the team behind

694
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: Kittle and Jen Yeah.

695
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're improving my point, Raybaun So yeah. So Kittle's

696
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 5: just you know, he's always the high ceiling guy. Weekend

697
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 5: week out, there was just so many mouse to feed

698
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 5: that you know he would have a low floor. But

699
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 5: that's kind of out the window where he's gonna probably

700
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 5: have a high floor and a high ceiling. So if

701
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 5: he could just hate stay healthy for one season, you know,

702
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 5: he could blow away the tight end position.

703
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: But the other thing is he was always, you know.

704
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 5: High catch, high yardage guy through his career, but brock

705
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 5: Perty has really unlocked his touch on upside. He's one

706
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 5: of Purtty's favorite touchdown targets. So if you look at

707
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 5: the past three seasons, his touchdowns are up. So again

708
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 5: with with Deebo gone and are you probably missing some time,

709
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 5: that's just gonna be even more touchdowns as well. So

710
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 5: Kittle in round five just offers massive, massive upside if

711
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 5: he could say healthy of course.

712
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one seems like a forty nine or

713
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 2: super Bowl type season. You know, every every they either

714
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: go like last place or they're going to the super Bowl.

715
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: So if we had that last year where they just

716
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: did the whole injury, last place, yeah, crash out.

717
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: This seems like one of those years. So yeah, like.

718
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: Still and you know with Kelsey slow maybe slowing down,

719
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: I mean Kittle, Kittle still looks pretty spry.

720
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 3: For me.

721
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: Ago with another maybe somewhat surprising one, Calvin Ridley, who

722
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 2: I'm usually down on these last couple of years, but uh,

723
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 2: sometimes I think you gotta you gotta kind of look at,

724
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: you know, the big picture, and uh there's these kind

725
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: of like under the radar guys that no one's really

726
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: completely fading but also not as excited about. I think

727
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: really kind of fits in that category, kind of like

728
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 2: a Terry McLaurin heading into last year with so you're

729
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: gonna have a quarterback that should be a lot better.

730
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 2: I had about fifty unctchable targets for Ridley a season ago,

731
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 2: still finished with a thousand yards on sixty four catches.

732
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: Nick Westbrook a keyene still most of his touchdowns. He

733
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: only had four, but we know he's capable. Had eight

734
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: the season before and a thousand yards in a pretty

735
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: shaky Jags offense as well. But I just think this

736
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: is another guy who could be an absolutely target monster

737
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: on a bad team that is willing to throw. Because Callahan,

738
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 2: where does he come from? Cincinnati? So I think he's

739
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 2: I think just because we saw this, you know, let's

740
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: hand it to Pollard Spears. It's kind of, you know,

741
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: let's kind of play a conservative. I think that was

742
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: more a matter of personnel and will levis just kneeling

743
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: down and throwing the ball to the other team all crazy.

744
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: So this year, I think the defense probably overachieved a

745
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: little bit.

746
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: Last year.

747
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: I mean, they were the worst team in the league.

748
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: Somehow their defense was seventeenth in Dvoa. I could see

749
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: it going downhill. This is still a last place projected team,

750
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: one of the worst in the league. So I think

751
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: they're gonna have a lot of trailing game scripts. I

752
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: don't think Callahan mindes airing it out forty times a

753
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: game if will Levis and Rudolph are not his quarterbacks.

754
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: So I think you might see some surprising pass volume

755
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: for camp Warden. I think you could see a Terry

756
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: McLaurin like twenty twenty four season where the efficiency just

757
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: takes a major step forward. Really is always gonna be

758
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 2: on the field running routes. You know, ninety plus percent

759
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: of the time you can even take a handoff here

760
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: and there. So I think Ridley is kind of like

761
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: a post hype kind of guy to buy here. And uh,

762
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at the competition for targets,

763
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: you're talking about stop dropping roll Tyler Lockett in the

764
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 2: Twilight Zone, Van Jefferson and his half a catch per game,

765
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: and then like everyone's trying to make fetch happen with

766
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: all these like you know, day three undrafted guys like

767
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: Ristreppo and uh Chi Mary Decay and uh who's the

768
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: other one. I know I'm missing one a Umano or whatever.

769
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: Like these guys, I mean, these guys are gonna do

770
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: jack like it's gonna be Calvin Ridley.

771
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley and more Calvin Ridley.

772
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: Uh in my opinion, yeah, maybe little check, but they

773
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: also got the they got the rookie tight end too.

774
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: Who is it?

775
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 1: Uh, Gunner Helm. I think I think it is so.

776
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: They they I mean, I just I just see, like

777
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: if there's one guy that's gonna have a ton of

778
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: targets on this team and it could push for the

779
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: league lead. I think as Ridley, I don't think Lockett's

780
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 2: going to be a factor, is kind of what I'm saying.

781
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: Or those rookies.

782
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 2: I know people were high on some of those guys.

783
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: I am not if you just look at the track

784
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: records of guys like that, especially on bad teams, very

785
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 2: very rare to make an impact.

786
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: Will we snead a few others? But yeah, really for

787
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: me round six to me know, he.

788
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 4: Got Okay so talked about Kittle and I think Jennings

789
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,959
Speaker 4: is an equally good play for Rep side. Obviously, people

790
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 4: are over valuing Ayuk for some reason. I also believe

791
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 4: he's not going to play at the start of the

792
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 4: season the way things stand right now, until we get

793
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: some more information, I'm going to proceed with that in mind.

794
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: He's not necessarily just an opportunity based play. He was

795
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 4: actually good in his opportunity. Last year, he was quietly

796
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 4: you know, the third I'm sorry, what do we got here?

797
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 4: In the slot? He was the third best among qualifiers

798
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 4: in Fantasy points per rout, run and yards. I do

799
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 4: think that Ayuk's absence will put DeMarcus Robinson on the

800
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 4: outside to start this season at time. So if that

801
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 4: is true, certainly he'll be lined up in the slot

802
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 4: and being efficient there. But I don't think he needs that.

803
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 4: I think he can play anywhere, and I do think

804
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 4: he's blessed with capable quarterback play, and also for Fantasy

805
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 4: Best Ball, he's got Tennessee, Indianapolis, and Chicago in the

806
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: Best Ball playoffs to look forward to. So I do

807
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 4: think that there's a lot of things in his favor,

808
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 4: not just the fact that he'll get opportunity, and overall,

809
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: just any of the San Francisco forty nine ers in

810
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 4: the absence of Iuk is going to be a good

811
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: play here in twenty twenty five.

812
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like James. He was my second choice. I'll

813
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: talk about my guy in second Mckerner.

814
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 5: Who you got, uh, Yeah, I'm obviously going with Dave Montgomery.

815
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 3: Here.

816
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 5: You know, he's always he's been my favorite mid round

817
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 5: running back ever since he joined the Lions, just because

818
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 5: of his his high floor ceiling combo. You know, he's

819
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,479
Speaker 5: technically the RB two on his team, but he still

820
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 5: carries a high weekly floor. Last year, he averaged the

821
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 5: fifteenth most best ball points added per game, and that

822
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 5: was with Gibbs being healthy the entire season, so he

823
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 5: never once had a game where he could tap into

824
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 5: his top five upside whenever Gibbs miss his time. So

825
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 5: I agree with you guys. I think, you know, the

826
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 5: change in offensive coordinator could result in Gibbs getting more touches.

827
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 5: He's clearly the best back on this team. But still

828
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 5: this is a team that you know, they score a

829
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 5: ton of touchdowns and they like to feed the running

830
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 5: backs around the goal line. So Montgomery still has that

831
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 5: touch and upside, which is great for best ball, great

832
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 5: for his upside. So even if Gibbs weren't, you know,

833
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 5: to miss any time this year, I think he would

834
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 5: he would pay off in round six. But again, if

835
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 5: Gibbs misses any time, he's going to be a top

836
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 5: five back in my weekly ranks, and just I can't

837
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 5: pass up that built in upside in round six here.

838
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: Got to get your life jacket, Sean, He's starting to

839
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: swim in at froze and pond with Montgomery here.

840
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 3: You think Montgomery is frozen find guy. I think he's.

841
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's because I just kind of got

842
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: done with my whole like futures and I'm kind of

843
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: sold on the Lions or regressing and having more you know,

844
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: trailing games groups that you know, I kind of took

845
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: myself out.

846
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: Of him a little bit.

847
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 2: But yeah, I do think he's a frozen pond. I mean,

848
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: age twenty eight, kind of more of a two down guy.

849
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's. I think he's it's fair to

850
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: put him in there in that category.

851
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot to this year, if you

852
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: can consider it.

853
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 5: I do think there's more downside there this year, but

854
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 5: that's it's round six. I think if Gibbs missed his time,

855
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 5: where are you ranking him in your weekly ranks? Top five,

856
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 5: top ten?

857
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he's probably he's probably, he's probably there. But

858
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: I mean I'm just saying, you know, compared to you know,

859
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: he's still going as a top twenty five back, I

860
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: guess is what I'm saying so like, it's not like

861
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: the value isn't as crazy as it's been a years past.

862
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: But like I said, I'm just I'm kind of sold

863
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: on the.

864
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: Lions taking a step back.

865
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 2: Some people may disagree, so that that's kind of playing

866
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: into the projection as well.

867
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: But for me going with.

868
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: Another again kind of post hype, maybe somewhat un sexy

869
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: pick here, Chris o'lave. Now I'm generally another guy I've

870
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: generally been down on.

871
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: But like usually we're.

872
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: Talking more season long, medium projections, guys, you're trying to

873
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: get consistent Seattle. I think the biggest with a love

874
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: is concussions like that, but that's the downside. Upsidewise, you're

875
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: talking about a you know, twenty five year old receiver,

876
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: first two years in the league, over one thousand yards,

877
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: first round pick last year, on his way again and

878
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: then just just got knocked out.

879
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: And now you're getting Kellen Moore.

880
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 2: Who's always in the top of the week offensive, always

881
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: in the top of the week in plays. Kind of

882
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: a lot of unknowns going on, but you talk about

883
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: a target hog Saints projected to be if it's not

884
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: the Titans, the Browns. Some people who even have the Giants,

885
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: but it's usually the Saints that are projected as the

886
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: worst team, and I think they very well maybe the

887
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: worst team in the league just given their quarterback situation.

888
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: But that's that's not enough to take me off a

889
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: guy who could still lead the league in targets and

890
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: the concussion risk probably goes down a little bit without

891
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: Derek Hospital ball Car, you know, shouts to Michael Thomas

892
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: throwing him passes. About half of his career passes have

893
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: come from from Car, and I'm pretty sure most of

894
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: the ones that have put him in harm's way have

895
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: come from Car. So Kevin Moore, that's the kind of

896
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: the wildcar here. Because this terrible team, you expect bad

897
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 2: quarterback play, but Kevin Moore pretty good offensive mind, generally

898
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: has like a fast paced offense. I don't think he's

899
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: gonna be able to take the air out of the

900
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 2: ball like he did with Philly last year. Every other

901
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: offense he's been, you know, high up near the top

902
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: of the league in pass pass attempts sixty six percentile

903
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: for his career as a coordinator in terms of pass attempts.

904
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: Even with that number, thirty two finish for Philly a

905
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: season to go. So like olave here, just another guy

906
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: I think has a shot weed in the league and

907
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: targets are coming close to it all right, Round seven Gemino,

908
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: Who do I hear.

909
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: People are going to pitcheonhole Caleb Johnson as an early

910
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 4: down grinder just because he played at Iowa. But he

911
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 4: did have twenty two receptions despite them having a sixty

912
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 4: five percent rushing rate and a snailish fifty eight point

913
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 4: eight plays per game, third slowest in the country. I

914
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 4: think he's an all purpose back. I think he can

915
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 4: do more. I think he can just basically be the

916
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 4: majority of that Najie Harris role right from the get go,

917
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,959
Speaker 4: and that should include a lot of the goal line work.

918
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 4: And I think you don't have to make it more

919
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 4: complicated than that. The Steelers are usually a competitive team.

920
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 4: They could be better with Aaron Rodgers as the quarterback

921
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 4: than they've been in years past. And I do think

922
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: running back's position that a player could step right in

923
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 4: year one and get a significant role with no problems,

924
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 4: no questions asked. They call him a good culture fit.

925
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 4: Everyone loves him over there in Pittsburgh. Why not in

926
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 4: the seventh round take a shot on youth with Caleb Johnson.

927
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's definitely ticketed for that. Nase.

928
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 2: I mean the Steelers are, They're.

929
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: Still pretty predictable. You know.

930
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: You did kind of telegraft some things like all right,

931
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 2: let go of najy draft this like his replacement got

932
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: in the you know in and with a decent draft pedigree. Yeah,

933
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: like he's gonna get It's gonna be one for one.

934
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: Maybe ken Is Kenny's gain will kind of gets similar

935
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: snapcounts to uh what Patterson had, But yeah, you're gonna

936
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: get when Warren's gonna mean the same role like that.

937
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: Steelers are not hard to read in that in that

938
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: fasted at all. All right, Sean, you and I aron

939
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: the same guy here. This is one of my favorites. Uh,

940
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: talk to me about Matthew Golden.

941
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I almost went with Caleb Johnson here, but I

942
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 5: went with the other rookie in this round, Matthew Golden.

943
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 3: He's the you know.

944
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 5: Forty second wide receiver off the board, which is usually

945
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 5: the range where I like to take swings on rookie

946
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 5: wide receivers, the ones that I think have upside. That's

947
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 5: where Brian Thomas Junior and lat McConkey were in this

948
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 5: range last year. I don't think Golden has that type

949
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 5: of upside, but I do think this is a sneaky

950
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 5: landing spot for him because on paper, this is a

951
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 5: crowded wide receiver room and tight ends obviously, but first off,

952
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 5: Christian Watson may miss you know, half or more of

953
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 5: the season. He tore his ACL very late in the playoffs,

954
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 5: so he's not gonna be ready. Jayden Reid only plays

955
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 5: eleven personnel, so there's gonna be some snaps where Gold's

956
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 5: out there without Jayden Reid, and then you know, Dobbs

957
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 5: is Romeo Dobbs. So I think Golden has a legit

958
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 5: shot to lead this team in targets. But he also

959
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 5: just has really good downfield ability. He kind of gives

960
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 5: me Terry McLaurin vibes just with his speed and ability

961
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 5: to win downfield. He caught fifty nine percent of balls

962
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 5: twenty plus yards downfield in college offs, which led this class.

963
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 5: So I think he has a shot to make a

964
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 5: ton of explosive downfield catches and what's a pretty run

965
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 5: heavy offense, so he could still give us spiked weeks

966
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 5: even if the volume isn't there.

967
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 3: So I think he's a great swing.

968
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 5: And best ball and again he has a decent shot

969
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 5: to leave this team in target. So as the you know,

970
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 5: forty second wide receiver off the board, I think there's

971
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 5: a great range to kind of take a flare and

972
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 5: a guy like this who I think, you know, he

973
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 5: still has a high floor, but I think for best

974
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 5: ball specifically, he should be able to provide plenty of

975
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 5: spiked weeks.

976
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: I think he does have.

977
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: Lat McConkie upside, absolutely no question about it. And the

978
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: reason is I totally agree with you on all your points.

979
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: I'll just put some numbers to this. First of all,

980
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: over the past five seasons, you know, the NFL has

981
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: gotten more past heavy receivers to get more reps.

982
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: You know, high school college pros. Spread offense is all that.

983
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: Past five seasons, rookie wide receivers drafted in round number

984
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: one have posted a top twelve Fantasy finish twenty percent

985
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 2: of the time, one out of every five. That's not

986
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: that's not bad odds, especially when you're talking about uh,

987
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: you know, most of these guys are their aps are

988
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: going to be in this range and a medium finish

989
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 2: of wide receiver thirty three so high floor, high ceiling

990
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: for these guys drafted in round one. Now again, sometimes

991
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: these it's just as simple as reading the tea leaves.

992
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: The packers are screaming at us that they hate their

993
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 2: wide receivers.

994
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: Let's all right. Exhibit A.

995
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: Jordan Love last season almost kind of got hid in

996
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: a way, right, Like this was a run heavy team.

997
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: Jordan Love wasn't throwing the ball. What was going on?

998
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: Jordan Love was number five in QBR, number four net

999
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: yards per attempt, number three in Sachary. The dude had

1000
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 2: a monster season. Uh, they just didn't throw the ball,

1001
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: not because of Jordan Love, but because they hate their

1002
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: wide receiver one. The wide receiver one, Jayden Reid. Supposedly

1003
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: an agent had to say it. They want him to

1004
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: get less snaps. They keep decreasing his snaps.

1005
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: He's just posed number one.

1006
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: This is a guy we're worried about as the wide

1007
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 2: receiver one ahead of Golden four point four targets per

1008
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: game last year, four point four wide receiver one. All right,

1009
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 2: the wide receiver won, and in terms of actual playing time,

1010
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: Romeo Dobbs forty three career games, never had one hundred

1011
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 2: yards receiving in a game.

1012
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: This guy's reading the team in the routs and playing time.

1013
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: Not only did he never have one hundred yards received

1014
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: in a game, this dude has two hundred and thirty

1015
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: five targets in his career regular season, never even had one.

1016
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: Catch go for forty or more. Like this room is trashed.

1017
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: Don Tavian Wicks good routes on film, it's where they

1018
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: go to die.

1019
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: Never puts up numbers in a game.

1020
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 2: And when you have that epiphany that like, we love

1021
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: Doan Tavian Wicks in the fantasy community at least I

1022
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: know I did I know, Sean you liked him At

1023
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: times they envisioned him as what Bo Melton in the

1024
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: week Heath actually were. It's just there were injuries, Like

1025
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: when everyone's healthy, d David Wicks plays like twenty twenty

1026
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 2: five percent of the snaps and they've never really shown

1027
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: the willingness to increase it. Christian Watson, they were trying

1028
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 2: to use him as a full time receiver like they

1029
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: were playing him, you know, eighty five ninety ninety five

1030
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 2: percent of the snaps, and then he broke again.

1031
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 6: So and Boat Melton, by the way, Stuckey just sent

1032
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 6: me a text bow Melton is now a cornerback. So

1033
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 6: that's how much the Packers they throw had their wide

1034
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 6: receiver room last year.

1035
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding. So now tell me again, what

1036
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 2: is the issue with Matthew Golden.

1037
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: Who are the guys he's competing with?

1038
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 2: Is it the four and a half target per game

1039
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 2: guy that's the wide receiver one? Is it the guy

1040
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: that never puts up any numbers, the guy that never

1041
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: even gets to play when everyone's healthy, or the guy

1042
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: that's playing corner now, or like, was it someone else?

1043
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: Like I don't know who it is, because I think

1044
00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: Matthew Golden wide receiver one from week one probably gets

1045
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: to play ninety nine like actually gets to play, you know,

1046
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: ninety ninety five percent of snaps. Seems like they've been

1047
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: looking for a guy like that so they don't have

1048
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: to keep, you know, rotating guys in and out because

1049
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: that that just hadn't been working for them. And you

1050
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: got one of the most efficient quarterbacks UH in the

1051
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 2: league and best UH play callers, offensive schemes, best offensive

1052
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: lines like just and in a challenging division where you're

1053
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to I don't think continue.

1054
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: To just run the ball like you did last year.

1055
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: You know, you know, Jacobs probably regrets a little bit,

1056
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 2: get hurt whatever, something like that.

1057
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: So love love, love of love. The upside for.

1058
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: Mattet gold and he's great for fantasy because he's gonna

1059
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: get downfield targets and you know, like those those those things,

1060
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: those targets that Jordan Love can damn shore throw. Uh,

1061
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: that's that's the kind of targets he's gonna get first

1062
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 2: and foremost. So yeah, I think he can finish top

1063
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: twelve year one. He's already the best receiver on of Packers.

1064
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: I just think this guy is getting way too discount

1065
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: and compared to like like a technic Milling or even

1066
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: a hunter like I just don't think. I think their

1067
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: upside is all similar. If you just look at the

1068
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 2: track record of if a team drafts a guy, they're

1069
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: telling you a lot. You know that that pedigree, that

1070
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: first round pedigree. All right, let's go keep a moving

1071
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: here around number eight, the eighteen here Jumino, who you like?

1072
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: Around eight upset?

1073
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, So round eight was tough for me. I didn't

1074
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 4: know if I loved anybody.

1075
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 3: T J.

1076
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 4: Hockinson was the closest thing here because we've got a

1077
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 4: situation where the player was injured last year. It struggled

1078
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 4: a bit coming back from that injury, but historically had

1079
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 4: shown some more juice athletically and some greater efficiency. Certainly

1080
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 4: was targeted quite a bit last year in terms of percentage,

1081
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 4: and I think that you called them, you know, basically

1082
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 4: their slot receiver, and that's exaccurate. Generate just one touchdown

1083
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 4: on fifty receptions. And this is a Vikings team that,

1084
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 4: you know, outside of Addison and Jefferson, doesn't really have

1085
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 4: a lot to work with in the receiving game. So

1086
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 4: I do think that Hawkinson at the tight end position

1087
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 4: has the upside to get to places where like Kittle

1088
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 4: and la Porter could get production wise, And I just

1089
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 4: don't see a whole lot of reason to shy away

1090
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 4: just yet. I do think that, you know, you may

1091
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 4: never come back fully from the injury. That certainly is.

1092
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 4: It used to be a lot more possible than it

1093
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 4: is these days from the ACLS, But I'm not worried

1094
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 4: about that right now just yet. I am just going

1095
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 4: to bank on the targets being consolidated here with Hockinson

1096
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 4: and let the chips fall where they may.

1097
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like, I know, you like Sean, you probably

1098
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: see like the single tier for Jayalen Neil or just

1099
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: like streaming down my cheek.

1100
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: Chrissy, like when you're you're like, yeah, nobody, no, the

1101
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 1: touchdown guy. Yeah no, But I agree.

1102
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 2: I think I meant we've seen him from Hockinson. We've

1103
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 2: seen him be like a nine to ten target guy.

1104
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: And by the way, same thing I said about Detroit

1105
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: when we talked about Jamo and why I kind of

1106
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 2: ween Gibbs over Monty and all that. Uh, Minnesota fourteen

1107
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 2: wins last year, I think they take a big step

1108
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 2: back this year. I mean they overperformed by nearly three

1109
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 2: wins compared to their point. Differential teams like that usually

1110
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 2: take a massive step back, So I think a lot

1111
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 2: more trailing game scripts and you know, Hockinson on the

1112
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: field instead of Josh Oliver mister extension as you know

1113
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 2: and I were we were just discussing off air. But yeah, no,

1114
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 2: I think this round was kind of an interesting one

1115
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 2: as well.

1116
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: Kerner, who you.

1117
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 5: Got, I'm gonna go Darnell Mooney who's being drafted as

1118
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 5: the wide receiver forty seven, but he was pretty consistent

1119
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 5: last year on his new team in Atlanta. He actually

1120
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 5: finished in the top thirty forty four percent of the

1121
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 5: time last year, which ranked thirty fifth. So that's a

1122
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 5: lot of useful games, very high floor. Unfortunately, he just

1123
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 5: didn't have as many spiked weeks for someone that's kind

1124
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 5: of seen as you know, downfield threat. But that could

1125
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 5: change this year. You know, he led the team with

1126
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 5: eighteen downfield targets, so I expect that to continue this year.

1127
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 5: So I think he's a strong fit with Michael Pennix Junior,

1128
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 5: who was considered you know, the top deep thrower of

1129
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 5: last year's QB class, So I think, you know, they

1130
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,479
Speaker 5: could form a good connection there. So we could see

1131
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 5: more spiked weeks to go along with the high floor.

1132
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 5: And you know, I don't know what's going with Kyle Pitts.

1133
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 5: Maybe he gets traded away. I'm not sure. You know,

1134
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 5: his four and a half targets a game will move

1135
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 5: the needle too much. But if if Kyle Pitts has moved,

1136
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 5: you know, that could be an extra target or two

1137
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 5: for Mooney going forward.

1138
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 3: So you know, Moody's a guy.

1139
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 5: This This is kind of a weird round where you

1140
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 5: have some you know, rookies more sexy picks like Jayden Higgins,

1141
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 5: Buka and Tampa Bay. But I think Mooney just he's

1142
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 5: quietly consistent and maybe has a few more spiked weeks

1143
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 5: this year, So I like his upside here in round eight.

1144
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: I just I just.

1145
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:53,959
Speaker 2: Don't want them to trade pits because then it's gonna

1146
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: make me rank y Ray McLeod like a lot higher

1147
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 2: than I want to. I was all ready for them

1148
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: to go, you know, more two tight end sets this year,

1149
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 2: Warner Pitts, you know, and I was like, all right, Ray,

1150
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: Ray McCloud can't keep this up. And now I'm like,

1151
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, we're gonna get like another Taylor Gabriel

1152
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: aass season from McLeod.

1153
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 3: Uh.

1154
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: But I digress.

1155
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is this is I agree, this is

1156
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: kind of a round where it could I could have

1157
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: got a lot of different directions.

1158
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1159
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: I just kind of stepped back and said, all right, like,

1160
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: who's to me, who just has like the most ridiculous

1161
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: talent that just pops, that maybe hasn't always had the

1162
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: numbers to match. And the one answer, Kyler Murray. I

1163
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: think we kind of forgot about him. But it's really

1164
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: hard to compete with. You know, if if a you know,

1165
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: a team kind of drafts right around like a Hurts

1166
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: or an Allen or a Lamar Jackson like they, you know,

1167
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: they have a big edge with that, with that rushing ability,

1168
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: especially with the touch pushing nofs not banned now for hurt. So, uh,

1169
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna need almost certainly some some kind

1170
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: of similar upside to compete here. So Kyler Murray kind

1171
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: of fits in that category. He has been trending down

1172
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: a bit in his rushing yards. But remember he's coming

1173
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 2: off the the knee injury. He's now he's over a

1174
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 2: year removed, about one and a half years removed from

1175
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: coming back from that injury, and you did start to

1176
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: see him, you know, run a little more down a

1177
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: stretch and he was still very explosive. Still was getting

1178
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: in the end zone, got in the end zone a

1179
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: handful of times. So I think he has unrealized efficiency

1180
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: upside in the pass game. His career high was seven

1181
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: point nine yards in attempt two hundred and seventy one

1182
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: passing yards per game. Last year seven point one in

1183
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: just two hundred and twenty seven, And I think he

1184
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: has I think he still has a rushing upside. I mean,

1185
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 2: the guy it's still really hard to catch him when

1186
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: he's got you know, when he's going in space. And

1187
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: you have that Marvin Harrison like talent improvement upside because

1188
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 2: I thought he had a bad year all things considered,

1189
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: and you have and you have, so you have an

1190
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: a week talent at wide receiver and a weak talent

1191
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: at tight end in terms of pass catchers. The defense,

1192
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: I mean, you did draft five straight but could could

1193
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: still be shaky. So and you have just a very

1194
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: good favorable schedule as well, no real weather games except

1195
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 2: at Cincinnati week seventeen potentially, and that's gonna be a shootout,

1196
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: Like come on, we were you kidding here? So besides that,

1197
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: I mean you're at New Orleans, San Francisco, Indie, Dallas,

1198
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 2: like Seattle, but early in the year, Tampa, Houston, the Rams,

1199
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 2: like it's you're you're gonna be playing in good conditions.

1200
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: I think he's getting confidence back. And you know, another

1201
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: year in the scheme two E week pass catching talents

1202
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: weve Kyler this year, I think he could It's one

1203
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: of those quarterbacks that could you know, match the upside

1204
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: of those guys going in the top top four. All Right,

1205
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: we're half well after this will be halfway through round nine,

1206
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 2: christ Domino, all right, so let me read you.

1207
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 4: A stat line of a player that's not the player

1208
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 4: we're talking about here. Sixteen games, two hundred and seventy

1209
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 4: one completions, fifty eight percent completions, three thousand, eighty nine yards,

1210
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 4: six point seven per attempt, four point three touchdown rate,

1211
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 4: eighty five QB rating, thirty eight sacks taken. Not tremendous numbers.

1212
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 4: Young player. That was year two Josh Allen. Now you

1213
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 4: compare that to Caleb Williams last year. Three hundred and

1214
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 4: fifty one completion sixty two p thirty five hundred yard,

1215
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 4: six point three per attemp, three point six touchdown rate,

1216
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 4: eighty seven QB rating, wopping, an unimaginable sixty eight sacks.

1217
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 3: Take it.

1218
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 4: Now, that's bad. But the point of saying that was

1219
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 4: that Josh Allen didn't come into this league as a

1220
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 4: high draft pick and absolute laid it up in his

1221
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 4: first two years. Players are allowed to get better, and

1222
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 4: I do think with Ben Johnson stepping in as the

1223
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 4: coordinator in an absolute embarrassment of riches at wide receiver

1224
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 4: and tight end to throw to. I do think Caleb

1225
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 4: Williams has every excuse to get better this year will

1226
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 4: be troubling if he doesn't, as a matter of fact,

1227
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 4: and I'm just looking for that to happen at this

1228
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 4: price tag. We're talking about, you know, taking a player

1229
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 4: ninth tenth round who could would very conceivably have four

1230
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 4: thousand yards passing and you know, significantly improved touchdown rate

1231
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 4: and significantly fewer sex taken. And I just see a

1232
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 4: chance here to really easily make stacks in Bestball with

1233
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 4: you know, drafting Dj Moore in round three or four,

1234
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 4: or getting into with into the dunesay business, or getting

1235
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 4: one of the tight ends. There's just a lot of

1236
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 4: opportunity to make it easy for a correlated team with

1237
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams, punt on the quarterback, get that volatile roster

1238
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 4: construction that I love so much. Caleb Williams. I'm willing

1239
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 4: to take the chance that he doesn't suck, despite the

1240
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 4: fact that what we saw last year was complete shit.

1241
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're talking to a guy who just literally

1242
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 2: in the past twenty four hours Max Bet Everywhere bears

1243
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,439
Speaker 2: five to one to win a division like I'm all

1244
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: in on this. Lions regression, Vikings regression, and Packers Bears

1245
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 2: come up, so don't mind it at all.

1246
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: He was starting to get pricey there for us.

1247
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he was creeping up into the top eight quarterbacks.

1248
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 2: But I agree, I think you do have to have

1249
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 2: some Bear stacks. That's how I want him. I don't

1250
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 2: really want much naked Caleb, but I want him. I

1251
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,959
Speaker 2: am very high in the Bears offense. Uh and uh yeah?

1252
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 2: And Ben Johnson so agree there, Kerner? Round nine, well,

1253
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: you like, uh yeah.

1254
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Trey Harris here. Chargers took him

1255
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 5: in the second round. And to be clear, I'm saying

1256
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 5: he has the most upset. I'm not saying he's necessarily

1257
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 5: offering value here because he does have to beat out

1258
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 5: you know, Mike Williams uh and Quentin Johnson in camp

1259
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,439
Speaker 5: to possibly be it's done, He's he's argued to watch

1260
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 5: were to continue, Oh, it's already happened.

1261
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 2: Like how hard is it? Well, have you seen these

1262
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: guys play? We actually have seen these guys play in person.

1263
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, I would say the odds he's the odds.

1264
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 5: The odds are definitely in his favor, don't get me wrong,

1265
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 5: but you know, he profiles as sort of a deep

1266
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 5: threat wide receiver. Mike com for him was actually Alec Pierce.

1267
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 5: So I think in basketball he's gonna be kind of

1268
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 5: similar to Alec Pierce, where you know, a lot of

1269
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 5: weeks he might have a dud or two and then

1270
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 5: you know he's gonna pop off for an eighty R

1271
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 5: touchdown one week. So I think he's gonna be very streaky,

1272
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 5: have a very you know, high floor, low floor, high

1273
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 5: ceiling kind of profile as a rookie. But the fact

1274
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 5: that Justin Herbert's quarterback I think helps him out as

1275
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 5: a rookie because again, like he has a really good

1276
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 5: downfield passing quarterback.

1277
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 3: So I think he's in a solid spot.

1278
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 5: But you know, it's right he might lose some snaps

1279
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 5: to Michael Williams or Quintin Johnson, who knows. So I

1280
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 5: don't know if he's gonna be a full time player,

1281
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 5: but either way, I think he has a ton of upside.

1282
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 5: This is a pretty good landing spot for him, all

1283
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 5: things considered. So you know, again I'm not saying he's

1284
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 5: a smashed spot in round nine, but I think in

1285
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 5: this range I think it makes sense to roll the

1286
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 5: dice on a guy with this profile.

1287
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna be completely honest with you here. This

1288
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: is a real talk, real live. The minute you said

1289
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 2: Trey Harris is gonna lose snaps to Mike Williams and

1290
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: Quentin Johnson, there was an earthquake. Like I don't know

1291
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 2: if you saw the screen shaking, but there is an earthquake.

1292
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Speaker 4: So that's gonna pit that out, you know, it was

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01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 4: probably the earthquake was probably Jim Harbaugh and Greg Roman

1294
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 4: steaming at the idea of you not mentioning who can

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01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 4: block the best as who's going to be the outside

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01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 4: wide receiver that wins the job. This is gonna be

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Speaker 4: like the Michigan Wolverines out there, the way they want

1298
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 4: to run that offense. They're gonna run the ball this year.

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01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 4: They're gonna put the goddamn hat on, and I'm scared

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01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 4: to death of wide receiver options here. But I don't

1301
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 4: disagree that the player looks talented. It's just that, like

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01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 4: I would love to see what their plans are from

1303
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 4: actually running this off They're talking about running design plays

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01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 4: with Justin Herbert. I saw that yesterday, like just just like,

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Speaker 4: you know, nothing against these guys talents, but all three

1306
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 4: of those guys are scaring me to death.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm just not a believer in Johnston.

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01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 2: I know, like him and Ricky Piersoll are just going

1309
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: to trick people with their like one monster game at

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01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 2: the end of last season into drafting them way too high.

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Speaker 1: I just I've seen enough.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't need any of that.

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01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 2: And then Mike Williams, I mean, these bigger bodied guys,

1315
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 2: It's just really the fall off comes a lot quicker with.

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Speaker 1: Some of these guys.

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: I don't think Mike Williams has it anymore. But uh,

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Speaker 2: for me, I'm gonna go to a quarterback in this

1320
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 2: round as well. Again, I think you know, you got

1321
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: to start thinking about, you know, okay, overall in the

1322
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 2: like where what are the blind spots?

1323
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: Where?

1324
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 2: Where? What Where's Where's the upside I need to account for?

1325
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: And when you start getting down here, you got to

1326
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 2: think about, Okay, like if I didn't draft.

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Speaker 1: A quarterback early.

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Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people who do this,

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01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: uh as much as we do, tend to kind of

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01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: shy away from that, you know, strategy unless you're stacked

1331
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: making specific stacks. So I got another quarterback and it's

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Speaker 2: Justin and tank commander, Justin fields of the New York Jets.

1333
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty four he only made six starts.

1334
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: He had a QB one overall finish, a QB seven,

1335
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: and a QB twelve, so you know, three, three, one

1336
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 2: very good and three you know, fifty percent solid. The

1337
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: year before twenty twenty three, he had five QB three

1338
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: or better finishes, a QB six and a QB twelve,

1339
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 2: so a ton of upside. And then in twenty twenty

1340
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: two the last ten starts of the year for him.

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01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, he finished top ten in nine

1342
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 2: of those, top five in half of them, including two

1343
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 2: QB one overall finishes. This guy, it's just the rushing.

1344
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: Like this guy averages one hundred and seventy five passing

1345
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: yards in forty four career starts, just one hundred and

1346
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Speaker 2: seventy five and one pass touchdown per game, but nine

1347
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 2: carries for fifty five yards rushing and uh just over

1348
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: point four rushing tds per game. And remember you do

1349
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 2: have this guy Tanner Enstron coming over from Detroit you know,

1350
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 2: unproven guy, but was working under Ben Johnson and I'm

1351
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 2: sure you know passing game coordinator did I'm sure he

1352
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 2: played a part in that in a in the success

1353
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 2: of Detroit over these past few years. So the fact

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01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 2: that you know, he's kind of leading the charge here

1355
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 2: and they're they're gonna roll with Fields, uh, and I

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01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: think he's gonna get starts because I think if anything,

1357
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Speaker 2: they'll just tank with him and figure out quarterback next year.

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01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: But I think he'll stay in the line up, unlike

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01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 2: you know, the Steelers last year who were trying to

1360
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: preserve that Mike tom win record and whatever they were

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Speaker 2: trying to do.

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Speaker 1: So uh, I think justin.

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Speaker 2: Fields one of those few quarterbacks that can kind of

1364
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 2: give you that upside, uh that you get that the

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01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: people who are drafted, the Hurts and Lamars and the

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Speaker 2: josh Is, are gonna get you know, early on. And

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Speaker 2: I think you do have to consider that when you're

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01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: when you're talking about trying to, uh, you know, have

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01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 2: a team that's gonna be in that top point one percentile,

1370
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: Like you can't you can't be like your quarterback you know,

1371
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: has to be has to be straight and you know,

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01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 2: a lot of people are gonna be stacking.

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01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 1: And so that's another reason why.

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01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: I like targeting some of these uh, scrambling quarterbacks, because

1375
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people, once you get past

1376
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: the top four scrambling quarterbacks are thinking more about stacks,

1377
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 2: whereas a lot of these guys, you know, you could

1378
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: either take unstacked or you know, just stack with you know,

1379
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 2: one guy and kind of be done with it. So yeah,

1380
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 2: love love the upside of uh of Justin Fields here, I'm.

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01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: Gonna gonna have a lot of him.

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01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 6: Uh.

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