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Speaker 1: Now the eye opener. We know the type of team

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Speaker 1: we're capable of being. You know, I was telling him,

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Speaker 1: like we ready to go. We should have been ready

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Speaker 1: to go from the bye. But you know, NFL will

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Speaker 1: humble you. NFL humble you went all over run early.

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Speaker 1: It's about how you finished the season. Let's finish the

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Jags A and the NFL will humble you.

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Speaker 2: This team got humbled against the forty nine ers on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Brian Sexton, John Osier with me here today and we're

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Speaker 2: gonna recap a little bit of what went down. We

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Speaker 2: talked about that on Monday, but then we'll start to

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Speaker 3: On the Titans. Brian.

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Speaker 2: We we're gonna talk about some big things a little bit,

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Speaker 2: but it's one of those where you need to still

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Speaker 2: talk about it and acknowledge it cause it was that bad.

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Speaker 4: Well, and we're gonna hear from Rayewon Jenkins understanding and

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Speaker 4: I thought he had it down right, and he's one

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Speaker 4: of the leaders in this locker room. Is that you

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Speaker 4: better let that sharpen you, right, I mean, you better

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Speaker 4: let that great on you cause you some pain so

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Speaker 4: that you can grow through it and figure it out.

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Speaker 4: And I think just some conversations that I've had with

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a big burn the tape guy or

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Speaker 5: bury it or whatever you do with it when it's

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Speaker 6: I think they will learn from it.

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Speaker 5: I'm more of the pennoned I guess I've seen a

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Speaker 5: lot of good teams lose a lot of games.

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Speaker 6: And lose some in bad fashion.

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Speaker 5: You know, I saw the Cole Salouse here in the

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Speaker 5: game of three and seventy five yards rushing winning to the

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Speaker 5: super Bowl, and people get tired of that analogy.

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Speaker 6: It's one time, but it shows you that it happens.

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Speaker 5: And it's important not to forget that this team has

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Speaker 5: won eleven of its last four fourteen games. You can't

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Speaker 5: forget that you got you know, boat raced the other day.

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Speaker 5: But you also can't forget that the things you're doing

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Speaker 5: are good enough to get to eleven and three, which

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Speaker 5: back in the fourteen game seasons and number one seed.

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Speaker 5: So don't lose sight of that either.

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Speaker 4: Well, can you do what the Cowboys did right and Alliance.

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Speaker 4: Both of them won their next two games after being blanked.

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Speaker 4: I mean, just absolutely. The Niners took apart the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: The Ravens demolished Alliance, and both of them are on

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Speaker 4: winning streaks. The Cowboys lost in Philly, but they've won

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Speaker 4: three or four. Can you rebound like that? I think

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Speaker 6: It's not.

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Speaker 5: It's I would say to use a college football analogy

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Speaker 5: what it once was. But if you lose thirty seven

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Speaker 5: three in college football, you stink in the NFL. That's

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Speaker 5: not how it is. You can lose like that. To

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Speaker 5: pull an analogy from way back, one of the best

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Speaker 5: teams of all time, the forty nine Ers, lost forty

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you go back more recently with it with the

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Speaker 5: Right, I also lost once thirty one nothing in the

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Speaker 5: open and won the Super Bowl. So it happens. It's

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Speaker 2: Now moving forward, let's go over some of our big

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Speaker 3: Our first big thing is schooled.

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Speaker 2: They got schooled against the forty nine ers, there's no

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Speaker 7: You know how that went down in that fashion yesterday,

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Speaker 4: You know where the level of play hath.

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Speaker 7: Has to be moving forward, and we had I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: John, you let it linger a little bit, but no,

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Speaker 5: What's over now? I mean, it's when they walk in

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Speaker 5: You let it motivates you. I think it's inside of

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Speaker 5: I think we forget sometimes because we see all the games,

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Speaker 6: Nine thirty or eight thirty, maybe you.

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Speaker 5: Think back on what happened on Sunday and give another

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Speaker 4: One of my favorite quotes is from Sir Winston Churchill,

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Speaker 4: who once was fond of saying facts are stubborn things, right,

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Speaker 4: so you can turn the page, but you can't ignore

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Speaker 4: The fact is the fact they didn't They don't run

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Speaker 6: The soccer reference to Sir Winston Churchill.

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Speaker 2: But it did feel like they were kicking the can

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Speaker 5: I think Brian mentioned it in the quick thought that they

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Speaker 6: It's impressive that they have.

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Speaker 5: I think it's eight rushing touchdowns, which is a good

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Speaker 6: They've stuck with it when it's been difficult.

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Speaker 5: Travis has given them some touchdowns that maybe is a team.

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Speaker 5: It's not real, but the Travis DTN has given them

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Speaker 5: I don't expect them to be the Eagles, who are

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Speaker 5: a run centric team. But he's too good and they're

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Speaker 6: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: He look, Yeah, it does go back to that play

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Speaker 4: can't get a yard, well, you can't. We have the

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Speaker 4: numbers the Jaguars. Look at these numbers, folks, the Jaguars

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Speaker 3: Problems are people know that too?

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Speaker 4: Able to confidence level, right, I don't know that there's

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Speaker 4: But the interior of that line doesn't give you confidence

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Speaker 4: easier for Mike Vrabel and the Titans to come in

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Speaker 6: Carries, you can't run the ball. Yeah, and you sort

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Speaker 6: And I don't think they're ready.

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Speaker 4: To accept that yet. One more thought on this, and

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Speaker 4: that is is that Doug Peterson and John has alluded

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Speaker 4: dominant phase of his offense. It's not what he believes

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Speaker 3: We talked a little bit about Texans.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get more into Titans as the week goes on,

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Speaker 5: Which filey coach Brian.

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Speaker 6: It's panic load fire the coach.

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Speaker 4: Here's the relevance. Josh Allen has eleven interceptions to lead

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Speaker 4: Which coaches fault? When they came to London, that team

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Speaker 4: No and John McDermott said he had to do something.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna give the ball to Travis. But you know,

442
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Speaker 4: bookmark this moment. You know today, when I say it,

443
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Speaker 4: a year from now, people will be like, Wow, this

444
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Speaker 4: kid is a really good football player and they're going

445
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Speaker 4: to need him. And you can't. You can't screw with

446
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Speaker 4: his confidence. You just gotta keep giving him the ball

447
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Speaker 4: and let him have success. And it will help John

448
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,959
Speaker 4: if the interior of the offensive line, has dug alluded

449
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Speaker 4: to on Monday in his press conference, gets better with

450
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Speaker 4: more time together and continuity Walker and Fortner and Sheriff

451
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Speaker 4: playing together, and then you can put him in there

452
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Speaker 4: and let him gain four yards, four yards, you know,

453
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Speaker 4: fourteen yards and start to build something. He hasn't had

454
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Speaker 4: that chance yet yet.

455
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Speaker 5: I think Tank's gonna be good. I don't know when

456
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Speaker 5: it's gonna happen, because I think he's gonna need a

457
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Speaker 5: stretch where he gets ten carries. Yeah, I don't know

458
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Speaker 5: if the way it's set up with Travis playing so well,

459
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Speaker 5: if it's gonna be realistic to give him time to

460
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Speaker 5: get into the flow. Think about Travis this year. If

461
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Speaker 5: he was only getting three carries a game, how good

462
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Speaker 5: would he be because he has needed those moments where Okay,

463
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Speaker 5: I hit the hole and I get seventeen. So I

464
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Speaker 5: think at some point we're gonna be talking to Tank Bigs,

465
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Speaker 5: be at his locker, and everyboy's gonna be realizing that, hey,

466
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Speaker 5: this kid's good. I think it will be tough for

467
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Speaker 5: him to reach that in this circumstance, maybe a little

468
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Speaker 5: through no fault of his own.

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Speaker 4: We just got done talking about kickers and how kickers

470
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Speaker 4: need time. They're either going to make some misses. They

471
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Speaker 4: may need to go to two or three teams. Running backs,

472
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Speaker 4: young running backs due to young players need that time.

473
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Speaker 4: He needs the time on task. They just need to

474
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Speaker 4: find it a window where maybe in the second half

475
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Speaker 4: in some game this year they have a lead and

476
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Speaker 4: go Tank, it's your time. You know, here's ten carries Go.

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Speaker 2: Does have a good sounding warn traves etn as well,

478
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Speaker 2: who had issues earlier in his career last year and

479
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Speaker 2: has moved forward with that. So I think that definitely

480
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Speaker 2: is helping Tank because your confidence can be an issue

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Speaker 2: at this point as well with some of the issues

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Speaker 3: Brian, what's dor this.

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Speaker 8: For that one?

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Speaker 4: Well, I alluded to it early, and that is the

495
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Speaker 4: offensive line of the defensive line. Neither one of them

496
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Speaker 4: played very well against the Niners. And the reason that

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Speaker 4: we pointed out is because the Niners are good on

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Speaker 4: both lines, right, So there's a little bit of margin

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Speaker 4: for error there that it was going to be tough

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Speaker 4: for both sides. But you know, heading into Sunday's game

501
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Speaker 4: against the Titans, what gives you more concern the Jaguars

502
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Speaker 4: offensive line against Jeffrey Simmons or the Jaguars defensive line

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Speaker 4: against Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 6: Thanks an easy too. I think.

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Speaker 5: I think the offensive line. This Jaguars defensive line, to me,

506
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Speaker 5: has had one or two games, but for the most part,

507
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Speaker 5: has been I think you could argue that and Travis Ey,

508
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Speaker 5: tanneb and the strength of the team. I think they'll

509
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Speaker 5: bounce back. I think the offensive line, I expect Walker

510
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Speaker 5: little to start again. I think they're going to give

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Speaker 5: that group time to get cohesion. History so far this

512
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Speaker 5: year has shown they bounce back pretty well, so I

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Speaker 5: think they will, but I.

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Speaker 6: Think they need to.

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Speaker 2: If they don't bounce back, then I will be very

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Speaker 2: angsty if the defensive line doesn't bounce back, because, as

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Speaker 2: John mentioned, is the strong pseudo the team. The O

518
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Speaker 2: line is where the question marks are. That was the

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Speaker 2: first game we've seen the full starting cast of what

520
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Speaker 2: they wanted for their offensive line, so you could argue

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Speaker 2: that was the first game, but it was a pretty

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Speaker 2: not great first game.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if full appreciation of how good

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Simmons is. I know Chris Jones just thought of

525
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Speaker 4: as the best defensive tackle in football right now. This

526
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Speaker 4: guy's not far from him. He was very good in

527
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Speaker 4: both games last year against this team, and he was

528
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Speaker 4: playing on a bum angle. It's healthy this year. Watch out.

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Speaker 5: I went with this is a crisis or a setback,

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Speaker 5: and yeah, I don't know. I mean, and I don't

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Speaker 5: think it's a crisis. I mean, I'm sorry, crisis or

532
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Speaker 5: bounce back? One off. I think it's a one off.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that we will see the emails, Brian.

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Speaker 6: It's like they've lost five.

535
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Speaker 5: Games in a row and have never played football before.

536
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Speaker 5: This is still a team that's won eleven of fourteen games.

537
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Speaker 5: It won five straight games going into this last game.

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Speaker 5: I still think the same things that enabled them to

539
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Speaker 5: beat good teams, not great teams, but they beat good

540
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Speaker 5: teams this year. I think those teams. I think those

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Speaker 5: things are there, and I think that will be enough.

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Speaker 6: Eight games left.

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Speaker 5: I think that's enough to win five or six of

544
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Speaker 5: those last eight games, which gets you to what eleven

545
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Speaker 5: or twelve wins. That's you know, better than not covered

546
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Speaker 5: a bunch of twelve games. Teven seasons, right, I lost

547
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Speaker 5: seasons too, So they still have a chance to be really,

548
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Speaker 5: really good. So I think it's a one off.

549
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Speaker 4: I think it's a one off, but we're gonna find out,

550
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Speaker 4: because you have they've not played well against the better

551
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Speaker 4: teams at home, right Kansas City and let's not forget Houston,

552
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Speaker 4: but Kansas City and San Francisco in particular. You've got

553
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Speaker 4: the Bengals and the Ravens coming up in a maounter

554
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Speaker 4: of weeks here in prime time at home. We're gonna

555
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Speaker 4: find out whether it's a home curse or whatever you

556
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Speaker 4: want to call it. But it feels like a one

557
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Speaker 4: off because we've seen this team play well. We've seen

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Speaker 4: them overcome the adversity of five different games in five

559
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Speaker 4: different stadiums, in six different time zones, all that stuff

560
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Speaker 4: across six different time zone. So I think it's a

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Speaker 4: one off. We luckily are going to have the opportunity

562
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Speaker 4: to find out for sure over the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a one off. Two I'm hoping so.

564
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Speaker 2: But I think some of the issues that are repetitive

565
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Speaker 2: that haven't been addressed, or the problems that I'm having

566
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Speaker 2: offensive line not getting the passing game going, those are

567
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Speaker 2: issues that have not progressed at this point, so that

568
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Speaker 2: is something that I'm going to keep an eye on

569
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Speaker 2: because I definitely think they can beat Titans. But if

570
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Speaker 2: they're doing it in a way where they did on

571
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Speaker 2: their five game win streak, have they really gotten any

572
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Speaker 2: better or are they just kind of maintaining status quo?

573
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Speaker 2: So my this or that this week is a little

574
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Speaker 2: bit about that. Do you stand pat and try to

575
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Speaker 2: keep going it's a week eleven they've been trying to

576
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Speaker 2: do that, or do you mix things up? When Ezra

577
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Speaker 2: Cleveland is ready to put him into the lineup on

578
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Speaker 2: offensive line, we know he plays a good left guard.

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Speaker 2: Walker Little we haven't seen him there a ton. People

580
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Speaker 2: do find that he can play different positions, But do

581
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Speaker 2: you put him in there and kind of use Walker

582
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Speaker 2: as the swing tackle at that point?

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Speaker 4: Well, that would be the only thing you could really

584
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Speaker 4: change up on the roster right because you're dealing with

585
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Speaker 4: so many injuries in the defensive backfield, there's not a

586
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Speaker 4: lot you can do there. I don't know. I think

587
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Speaker 4: I would tend to stand pat. You've got a lot

588
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Speaker 4: of money in Brandon Sheriff. He is no longer the

589
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Speaker 4: five time Pro Bowl guy, but he's still a pretty good player,

590
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Speaker 4: and Walker Little hasn't played a whole lot of left guard.

591
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Speaker 4: I go back to a guy who I kept hammering at,

592
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Speaker 4: and that was Luke Fordtner, and the coach defended him,

593
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Speaker 4: saying he needs better guard play, better guard play, consistent

594
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Speaker 4: guard play. I don't think you changed that up yet.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I'm part of the issue with the offensive line has

597
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Speaker 5: been they haven't played together yet.

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Speaker 6: So do you move.

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Speaker 5: Walker Little output as Cleveland in after one and then

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Speaker 5: what happens if he doesn't play well?

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Speaker 6: Then you move it back?

602
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Speaker 5: So I think this is probably the week to try

603
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Speaker 5: to get some continuity.

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Speaker 6: And hope that Walker Little they believe it's a good play.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's funny until Sunday, Walker Lio was best

606
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Speaker 5: offensive lineman on this team, remember, Yeah, So let's give

607
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Speaker 5: that a chance, not panic, and see if some continuity

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Speaker 5: there and not playing against a great I'm not saying

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Speaker 5: Jefy Simmons didn't good, but I don't think you would

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Speaker 5: think that the Titans defensive line is as monstrous right

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Speaker 5: now as the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 6: So let's see how they can do against.

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Speaker 5: And again get their feet wet a little bit before

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Speaker 5: you make another change.

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Speaker 6: I would think that's.

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Speaker 4: How they go.

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Speaker 2: I think part of it too is getting Trevor to

618
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Speaker 2: believe he's feeling protected as well, because you can tell

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Speaker 2: by the ways moving his feet out there, he doesn't

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Speaker 2: feel safe in the pocket. So that's obviously affecting a

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Speaker 2: lot of what the offense has been able to do

622
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Speaker 2: or not been able to do for I don't feel safe.

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Speaker 2: It's not safe here. That's definitely something that they're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to work on. I'll bond together, feel a little

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Speaker 2: safe together, say well, let's we'll talk about what we

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Speaker 4: I hate losing.

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Speaker 9: I feel like no one loves to lose. And I

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Speaker 9: feel like we don't come here and work our butts

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Speaker 9: off every day to go out there and put performance

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Speaker 9: out there like that. And I feel like it's unfair

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Speaker 9: to our fans to even go out there and do that,

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Speaker 9: so we definitely got to all let a simmer and just

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Speaker 9: kind of uses us field to prepare us throughout the

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Speaker 9: rest of the season.

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Speaker 2: Travis talking, it's unfair the fans had to watch that.

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Speaker 2: That's probably true someday that they had to watch that

644
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Speaker 2: at home. They always seemed to get up for the Titans, though,

645
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Speaker 2: so I expect a much better matchup.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's strange because the Titans, for guys like John

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Speaker 4: and I who were here, you know, when they were

648
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Speaker 4: the Oilers in the early days and Jeff Fisher was

649
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: mouthing off, it became a bit of a natural rivalry

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Speaker 4: and then it kind of flowed away, and it's been

651
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 4: a long time since the rivalry was is heated, especially

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Speaker 4: with the Jags winning both those games last year. But

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Speaker 4: it's funny think Doug has has been a nice job

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Speaker 4: of reminding these players of the history of the franchise,

655
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Speaker 4: and well, it's easy to get up when they have

656
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Speaker 4: some good players who can embarrass it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jaguars weren't very good for long time, so rivalries

658
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 5: tend to faith, so they're back. Trevor had the look

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Speaker 5: at the scoreboard moment last year in the stiff arm

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Speaker 5: that's always fine.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: I think rivalries where they talk a little bit and

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Speaker 5: they clearly want to beat the other guy and they're

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Speaker 5: thinking about the other team.

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Speaker 6: That's what it's all about. Supposed to be fun.

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Speaker 4: Steelers can't be your rival because they're not on the

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Speaker 4: schedule every year, and though Kansas City has been the

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Speaker 4: last couple of years, they're not on it every year either.

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Speaker 4: The Titans, the Colts, and the Texans. You've got to

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Speaker 4: carve rivalries from them so that you fill your stadium

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Speaker 4: and people get up for the games. And it's nice

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Speaker 4: to see some of that coming back.

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Speaker 3: I see when Bruin and Houston as Yeah, so stay

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Speaker 3: with us.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna fully preview that Titans matchup for you tomorrow

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Speaker 2: right here on Jagsam.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you then,