1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to this League Uncut in the rule of twenty 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: four hour NBA News. This's you love, Chris Haynes. It's 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: so time, work Stein, It's so time. This League Uncut 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: is underway and on fire. This should be a good one. 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: This is a very good day for our humble little podcast, 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 2: Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes, this League Uncut, and 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: we have a special guest, a former All Star, a 8 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: beloved teammate wherever he's been, and a veteran the most 9 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: important part, Chris Haynes, a veteran of my all lefty team. 10 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: Yet another left hander makes his way onto the pot. 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: Except the word on the streets, the streets say that 12 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: our guest is actually a natural righty. I hope you 13 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: can clear this up because I've always looked at him 14 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: as lefty. But he's got that righty floater that does 15 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: lend credence to what the streets are saying. So we're 16 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: going to straighten that out as well. Let's do it 17 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: now with the one and only Mike Conley Junior from 18 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Timberwolves. Mister Conley, it is great to see you, 19 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: great to have you. 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: On with us. 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, thank you guys, appreciate you'all having me today. 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: First things first, let's start with, I guess the obvious, 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: the natural question for any Minnesota Timberwolf at this point, 24 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: how are you guys coping so far life without Cat? 25 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: Oh Man, It's definitely definitely tough. You know, we were 26 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 4: playing at such a high level and just had a 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: really good rhythm with all our guys healthy and playing together. 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 4: And to lose a guy like that, you know, it 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 4: just you feel bad for him all the work he's 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 4: put in this season to improve himself, and but you 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 4: also feel back for your team because you want to 32 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: have every you know, everybody healthy going down the stretch, 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 4: and we're just you know, trying to make make do 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 4: what we what we can. You know, right now, nobody 35 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: individually can can do what Kat can do, so we 36 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 4: kind of do it, you know, together as a unit. 37 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 4: And I think the last few nights we've had, you know, 38 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 4: some some positives in that direction, Mike. 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 5: As you go through this this stretch of the season 40 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 5: where guys are trying to get ready for the playoffs, 41 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 5: and obviously you would like to have Cat. I don't 42 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 5: know if you've seen the report, but I reported it here. 43 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 5: And I also reported on T and T about how 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 5: the Denver Nuggets skip their White House meeting because they 45 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 5: they had a white House meeting scheduled today before seeing 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 5: you guys, and now they're bypassing that because that game 47 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 5: against you guys, I believe on March nineteenth is is 48 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 5: so important. That's something they didn't they didn't anticipate when 49 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 5: they rescheduled that meeting. So when you hear that, and 50 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 5: when you hear teams taking you seriously, like, what what 51 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 5: came to mind when you when you heard about that? 52 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just that you know that, you know, 53 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: teams look at the schedule and they know when they 54 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 4: play the Timberwolves now, and and especially if you're up 55 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 4: you know that one through four or five seed, you 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: got so much competition right there that you know, you're 57 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: always kind of keeping an eye open on who you 58 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: got and what's coming up and what those games might mean. 59 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 4: And obviously it's gonna mean a lot for them, so 60 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 4: it's gonna mean a lot for us, and uh we're 61 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 4: excited to, uh, you know, take on that challenge when 62 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 4: that you know that day happens and we get there. 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 4: But I'm sure that you know they're coaching, their players 64 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: made the decision it's best for them to get ready 65 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 4: to play a big game. 66 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: Mike, you're obviously one of the leaders of this team 67 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: and you've seen it all at this point in your 68 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: NBA career, so you know how this stuff works. And 69 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: as good as you guys have been during the regular season, 70 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: people want to see what the Wolves can do in 71 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: the playoffs and it probably won't be until the postseason 72 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: until you guys can kind of get your full appreciation 73 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: and rescispect. How much do you guys as a group 74 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: talk about that or acknowledge it in any way? How 75 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: how real is that for the guys in that locker room. 76 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: You know, we don't talk too much too much about it, man, 77 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: but honestly, uh, I think it's kind of you know, 78 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 4: what's understood and need to be explained situation for us. 79 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: For Hey, we've where a team that is done well 80 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 4: so far, you know, early in the season, the latter 81 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: part of the season. Can we do it in the playoffs? 82 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 4: Can we win when it matters? Can we stay healthy 83 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 4: when it matters? Like all them things are gonna you know, 84 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: dictate people's outlooks on who we are and our legacies 85 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 4: are as players and so you know, winning, winning, Trump's 86 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: everything and hopefully we we uh, you know, we've we've 87 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 4: built up enough this year, gone through a lot you know, 88 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 4: ups and down, so where we're you know, we're all 89 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 4: around in the shape at the right point and and 90 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: uh be able to answer a lot of people's questions. 91 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 5: Mike, you you've obviously you've you've got young talent that 92 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 5: you're around it with and you know, no other emerging 93 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 5: young star than Anthony Edwards. So Chris Hines, assistant coach 94 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 5: with the timber Wills, told me about just your approach 95 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 5: in mentoring Anthony Edwards, and he told me that, you know, 96 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 5: you're a player who's had, you know, stages of your 97 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 5: career where you were an All Star, you know, a 98 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 5: franchise player, and now you're you know, you're you're a starter. 99 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 5: But with what they with the mentorship type of role. 100 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 5: And he said, you've been very instrumental in teaching Anthony 101 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 5: Edwards how to slow his game down, how to how 102 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 5: to think the game. What what obligation do you feel 103 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 5: in the success of Anthony Edwards. What do you think 104 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 5: you owe it to not only yourself but what do 105 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 5: you think you owe it to the next generation and 106 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 5: particularly Anthony Edwards. 107 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: Well, I think a big reason why I was brought 108 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: in was was also to help that development of of 109 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 4: of and and you know he's for you know, so 110 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: far our relationship has been you know that of like 111 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 4: a you know, a brotherhood almost in the sense like 112 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: a little brother big brother situation. And trying to, you know, 113 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 4: do whatever I can, whether it's on or off the court, 114 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 4: to help him be the best player you can be, 115 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 4: learn the game at a different speed, like how to 116 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 4: make plays and different decisions that he can make in 117 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: certain tight tight windows or whatnot. So you know, he's 118 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 4: willing to learn, he's willing to listen. And yeah, obviously 119 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: I think that's it's part of my role as a 120 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 4: point guard in any any capacity to help my teammates, 121 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: help anybody who needs it. So hopefully I'm doing my 122 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: job and he continues to grow and grow as the 123 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 4: year goes on and his career goes on. 124 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 5: And Mike, real quick follow up. When you're talking about 125 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 5: slowing the game down. I got a feel for what 126 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 5: you're talking about, but can you elaborate on that, like 127 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 5: when you're when you're talking to Anthony ver was about 128 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 5: having a game slow down? 129 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 6: For what are you saying exactly? 130 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's different ways to look at I mean, 131 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: like for for slowing the game down for me. For 132 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 4: him in particular, was you know, not don't get sped up. 133 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 4: I think he's a guy that, you know, if he 134 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: takes his time getting he can get to whatever spot 135 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 4: on the court he wants to. And and you know, 136 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 4: whether that's reading a double team situation where guys, you know, 137 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: teams are sending two people at you, and what reads 138 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 4: to make you know, following that decision. And you know, 139 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 4: some people just go out there and hoop and they 140 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: get away with it sometimes, but sometimes you have to 141 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 4: prep forward. You have to prepare for different coverages, prepare 142 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 4: for different things so that you know the game can 143 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: slow down and it you can already be knowing what 144 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 4: two options you're going to have before the play starts. 145 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 4: And he's just developing that side of the game. I 146 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: think for the majority of his life he's he's you know, 147 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: he's still probably always been better than everybody. So he's just, uh, 148 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: you just go out there and hoop. So we're trying 149 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 4: to give him that that that Mike Kindley side of 150 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: the the the basketball game, and the side that I 151 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: think you can take him to another level. 152 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: Really, I guess the only thing slowing him down these 153 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: days is getting out there for the opening tip. I 154 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: don't know what's going on there, but that seems to 155 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: be the only missing piece for him. 156 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: I can't explain. I can't explain that one. We're looking 157 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: for him, we're drawing, drawing up the plays and all 158 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 4: kind of stuff, and you never know what he's doing. 159 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: So we just we just hope he's gonna be there 160 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: on time. 161 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: You obviously were an in season arrival last season, so 162 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: you weren't there the whole ride. But from your perspective, 163 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: what is the big difference between this season's team and 164 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 2: last season's team? Why has this group been so much 165 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: more successful? 166 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 4: Honestly, I think a lot of it has to do 167 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 4: with just the time, you know, time frame of summertime. 168 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 4: So now we've had a little bit more time to 169 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: prepare for a season together as a healthy unit. I 170 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 4: think the year before, they you know, Cat missing so 171 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: many games and many guys out the line up, the 172 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 4: trade like, it's a lot of different things that went 173 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 4: down to disrupt the you know, they could disrupt the team, 174 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 4: but you know, we we held together. Fast forward to 175 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: this season. I think guys, uh, you know, took it 176 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 4: upon themselves to to come to the season in great 177 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: shape from you know, their their overseas UH teams and 178 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 4: and all of us just you know, just just locked 179 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 4: in on a season that we're going to be you know, 180 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: we're gonna be different and defensively. It's it's probably been 181 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 4: the number one thing that everybody sees is you know, 182 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: how far and away better we are now that Rudy's 183 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 4: you know, doing what he does at the highest level 184 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: and guys are kind of building around him, and and 185 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 4: I think that's allowed us to have i mean closer, 186 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 4: closer games and have tighter you know finishes where we 187 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: can you know, give ourselves a chance to win a 188 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: lot of those. And so far we've done a good job. 189 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 2: I mean, you obviously played with Rudy in Utah as 190 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: well as here with the Wolves, so you probably know 191 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: him as well as anybody behind closed doors. 192 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: How mad was he about the All Star snub? 193 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: And I know you've personally had to go through that 194 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: where there were years you probably felt like you were 195 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: an All Star and didn't get that call and then 196 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: you finally got that. How how mad is he that 197 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: he was not recognized? I think he should have been 198 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: an All Star. I mean, he was in my you know, 199 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 2: not that mine. You know, mine is just hypothetical, is 200 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: just one reporter's opinion. But when I scribbled out my 201 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: seven West reserves. 202 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: He was on there. Yeah, you know, I think he 203 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 4: was upset. And I know, you know, all of us were, 204 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 4: you know, on our team. We all felt that he 205 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 4: was a guy that, you know, we wouldn't be in 206 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: the situation that we in without him. You know, we 207 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: felt that he was, you know, one of those one 208 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 4: of those pieces. And uh, but he's he's also a 209 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: guy that you know, once that something like that happens, 210 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 4: it makes him better. It makes them, you know, more 211 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 4: locked in and keyed in on, you know, what we're 212 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 4: doing as a team and and our goals as a team, 213 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 4: which he's always worried about. So I think it's gonna 214 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: do nothing but make him better. Right now, he's been 215 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: doing great, and uh, just hoping he's gonna continue to 216 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 4: do what he does. 217 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 5: Mike, You've played in over thirty four thousand minutes played 218 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 5: in over a thousand games. And you know this has 219 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 5: been talked about, you know here and there no technicals 220 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 5: throughout your career, and you know I'm gonna bring that up. 221 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 5: I want you, I want you to. Can you give 222 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 5: us a master class and tell me, like what what 223 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 5: is the key? Because I I'm somebody who you know 224 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 5: in just in life my wife had contested that. Well 225 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 5: I'll go off, you know, I lose it, So like, 226 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 5: can you give a master class? Like, can you give 227 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 5: us a little glimpse on how you're able to keep composer? 228 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 5: And then secondly, Mike you talked about you know you're 229 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 5: trying to instill a little bit of Mike Conley into 230 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 5: Anthony Edwards. Well he has he is tied well, he 231 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 5: is tied for fourth in technicals this season with twelve. 232 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 4: I'm not doing my job, brought I'll tell you, I'm 233 00:11:59,200 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 4: not doing my job. 234 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 5: But no, how do you do it? How do you 235 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 5: do it? Like have you ever been close to getting 236 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 5: to tech? Like what is your mindset? Take us inside 237 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 5: your mindset? Because basketball, in any professional sports competitive man, 238 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 5: your emotions get into it. How have you kept your 239 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 5: composure throughout. 240 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 4: You know Honestly, I don't really know. I think it's 241 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 4: just something that has come from my parents, the way 242 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 4: I was raised. And like I, you know, I get 243 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: mad enough to want to fight, but I never was 244 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 4: like a fighter. I never, you know, try to swing 245 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 4: on people and just have a you know, knee jerk 246 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: reactions to things. I was always, you know, kind of 247 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: a thinker. Let me think about the situation, like how 248 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: to get through it, how to get past it, like 249 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 4: were they wrong? Were they right? Was I tripping? Like, 250 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: you know, just trying to gauge it all at the 251 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 4: same time. And and I guess I've become good at it. 252 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 4: And uh, now, you know, now I don't even think 253 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: I'll maybe I'll get close this year. 254 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: You can't get one. Now you've come this far. You 255 00:12:58,960 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 3: cannot get one. 256 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 4: Now we've gotten pretty close. We've got pretty close this year, 257 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 4: and I'm a little a little scared it might happen 258 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: soon if we keep going. 259 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: I actually need to do some research. 260 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta find like a historian who can 261 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: look this up. What are what is the most minutes 262 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 2: in most games in NBA history without getting a tech 263 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you've got to be in the run. 264 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: I don't even know how to put that. 265 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I would think so honestly, I don't know. 266 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: At this point, like you surely you want to you 267 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: want to retire without any don't you? 268 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: At this point? 269 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 4: At this at this point, I feel like I can 270 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: use it to my advantage. Now I can like talk 271 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 4: to the ref a little bit more higher levels of 272 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: volume and like aggression because they're afraid to get me 273 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: a tech you know, if they. 274 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 6: Don't, they don't want to be the ones that don't 275 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 6: want to be the ones. 276 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: So see that surprises me. 277 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: I would think there would be a ref out there, 278 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: who hey, I'm going to give. 279 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 5: There's a few out there. There's a few out there. 280 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 5: If I had the guests, I go, I cause name 281 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 5: on the spot. There is a couple of refs that 282 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 5: I would think would be about that business if if 283 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 5: it got to that point. 284 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 4: I think that maybe maybe, but I think that it 285 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 4: would have to be like they wouldn't know who it 286 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 4: was they were calling the tech on and they turn 287 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 4: around and be like, oh damn, I bat. You know, 288 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: it would be one of those situations. 289 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: Do you think most refs know you have zero career tech. 290 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: I honestly do I think, because that's like the one 291 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 4: thing they say to me is they like appreciate you 292 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 4: know me, you know, just to got so much respect 293 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 4: for you know, one another and whatever, and I'm like, 294 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: thank you, Like man, keep going, keep being the you know, 295 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: the guy you are. So I feel like they kind 296 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: of have you know, fallen into that that vibe I'm 297 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 4: just nice guy or so. 298 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 6: Okay now with you being the two things. Mike. 299 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 5: So, in twenty fourteen, you actually did receive a TECH, 300 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 5: but it was it was rescinded. It was against Sacramento, 301 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 5: but it was rescinded the very next day. Do you 302 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 5: remember what did you do to get that tech? And 303 00:14:59,120 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 5: how did you feel? 304 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? I remember it was something happened. Uh, I might 305 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 4: have shot a layup or got fouled or didn't get fouled, whatever, 306 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: the ball bounced out of bounds or something. I said, like, 307 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: you know, come on man, like like slapped my hand. 308 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: I literally that's all I said. It was like, come on, man, 309 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: slap my hands to get it like that, and kind 310 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 4: of turned around and started to walk up to the 311 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: free throw line and I heard a whistle and I 312 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 4: heard a tech like a Tech was being called, and 313 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: I still didn't know who they was calling it. I 314 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 4: thought it was calling somebody else, like somebody else did 315 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: something z Bo Tony all these other guys that do 316 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 4: that all the time. So and then I realized it 317 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 4: was pointing at me, and I was like, ain't no way, 318 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 4: I gotta tell you, it's got to be the wrong person. 319 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 4: So they called in and they got to rescind it, 320 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 4: and you know, it never happened. 321 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: We're college in high school the same no. 322 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 4: Text, Yeah yeah, college, high school never got close either 323 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 4: one of those. So I don't know, Man, what a 324 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: gentleman I guess? 325 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 5: Man, hold on, I want to get before we move on. 326 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 5: I wanted to get a little deeper here. Can you 327 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 5: cuss out a ref right now and get away with it? 328 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 6: Are there? Are there certain things you can get away 329 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 6: with it now that refs know the situation? 330 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 4: See now I can. I can cuss, but not at them, 331 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like I think like I'm 332 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 4: like just like talking to him, and I might roll 333 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: in a few of those words in there. It's a 334 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 4: little different than like me like running at them and 335 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 4: start calling them names and stuff like I'm not I'm 336 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 4: not doing that. 337 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I get that, because you know, doing doing sidelines 338 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 5: for T and T. I've read across across Draymond, like 339 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 5: when Draymond picks up that first tech, Oh, he goes 340 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 5: off even more after that first tech, no, knowing that 341 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 5: the officials don't want to you know, they're gonna give 342 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,359 Speaker 5: them leeway, they don't want to give that second Yeah. 343 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 5: So I was just curious, like you could get I 344 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 5: was curious things you could get away with right now. 345 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's yeah. I can't get away with probably that 346 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 4: level of uh, but you know, yeah, I don't know. 347 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 4: I tried my best to utilize it to our advantage 348 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 4: a little bit. 349 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: You recently came to terms with the Wolves on a 350 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: new contract extension. Congratulations, So obviously you know where your 351 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: home is going to be for the next two seasons 352 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: beyond this one, as you understand it. How close were 353 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: you to ending up with the Lakers at the trade 354 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: deadline rather than the Wolves. What did they tell you 355 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: behind the scenes that maybe we didn't know on the 356 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: public side. 357 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 4: Of the fence. I honestly don't know how close that was. 358 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 4: I kind of had no idea anything kind of like 359 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 4: that was going down. To that that morning of the 360 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 4: day we got traded. But I think as it became 361 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 4: more and more serious, I think it was never I 362 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 4: was never really going to be a part of that 363 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 4: deal to La or is going to have to be 364 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: a three team deal, And obviously it ended up being that, 365 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 4: and each you know, team got who they wanted, uh 366 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 4: for that, you know, for that trade, and kind of 367 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 4: moved on from there. But like from my perspective, I 368 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 4: didn't know too much. I thought I had heard like 369 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 4: Clippers stuff, and obviously Lakers were in there a little bit, 370 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: but Minnesota was kind of like the the dark horse 371 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 4: that it was a far shot, it probably wouldn't happen, 372 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: and it ended up being the one that did. 373 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: When you first heard Minnesota before you got on the 374 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: plane and actually switched teams, what did you think about 375 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: the fit? 376 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 4: Honestly, I thought it was it reminded me a lot 377 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 4: of our Utah teams. Was you know, you shuffled a 378 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 4: couple of different pieces around and and we've got you know, 379 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 4: these young long defenders and Anthony Edwards and cat like this. 380 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: It just seemed like it was like a team that 381 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 4: was ready to kind of take a take a you know, 382 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: a turn and you really kind of hit the momentum 383 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 4: swing and I, you know, I wanted to be a 384 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: part of that. Obviously, resigning now kind of getting a 385 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 4: whole year to get accustomed to the guys and understand 386 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 4: my role and what I'm gonna do to provide what 387 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 4: I do for the team. And it's just, you know, 388 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 4: we fell in love with it and hopefully we continue 389 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: to build something here and give ourselves a good run 390 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 4: in ith. 391 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 5: Mike, I want to ask you about your thoughts on 392 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 5: and D It seems like there is a for point 393 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 5: guards coming up into this league. It seems like they 394 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 5: have to be scoring point guards nowadays. And I look 395 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 5: at you as a hybrid, but I look at you 396 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 5: as an old school point guard as well when you're 397 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 5: when you're talking to younger players who are going to 398 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 5: be point guards in this in college or even to 399 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 5: the league, Like, is there a certain way that you 400 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 5: feel like point guards now they have to play or 401 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 5: do you feel like there is a Mike Conley type 402 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 5: player that can steal make his way to the league 403 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 5: and still get looked at like how you got looked at, 404 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 5: you know, back in your high school and college days. 405 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 4: Well, but yeah, I think you could have a little 406 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 4: bit of both there where you know, you got you're 407 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 4: gonna have guys that play a different style of basketball. 408 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 4: I play different style of basketball, you know, move a 409 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 4: little bit differently and not above the rim. Like my 410 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 4: game is predicated on different things as I can provide 411 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 4: or whatnot. And that's just me particularly, get the next 412 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 4: guy could be you know, their particular skill set at 413 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 4: six three or six fours and help them become who 414 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 4: they they become a little bit a little bit easier. So, 415 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: you know, the point guard position is I think it 416 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 4: will always kind of be a leadership position and be 417 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 4: able to understand the game and a high IQ level 418 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 4: and understanding you know, balance and all that. But uh, 419 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 4: the modern point guard needs to be able to score. 420 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: They need to be able to find them scores. And 421 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 4: like it's a lot of that, a lot of that's 422 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: happening now and and so it would be you know, 423 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 4: perfect point guard to me would be able to do 424 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 4: obviously a little bit of all that and at a 425 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 4: very elite level. And you know, this league is just 426 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 4: trending in that you know, scoring point guard. Uh, you 427 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: know air So you. 428 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 5: Say it have to be so you know, because you know, 429 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 5: in the eighties and nineties, maybe even some of the 430 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 5: early two thousands you had past first point guard, they 431 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 5: were they were not scored. So you believe point guards 432 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 5: nowadays they do have to be somewhat of a dynamic 433 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 5: score to be able to. 434 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 6: Make in this league. 435 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, somewhat. You don't have to you know, be 436 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: Dame or a jar or anybody like that, but you have. 437 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 4: But you you know, you have to be able to 438 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 4: be official. You have to be able to score. You 439 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 4: have to be able to you know, score in different 440 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 4: ways and and depending on your roles. So I think 441 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 4: it'll be tough to crack a lot of rosters if 442 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 4: you can only you know, passed the ball and that's 443 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 4: and that's it, because you know, defenses can kind of 444 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 4: key in on that nowadays and take advantage. So yeah, 445 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: I think that's kind of where we're at with that, Mike. 446 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: If I could, I want to go back to the 447 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: subject of All Star. When you got your All Star 448 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 2: nod and now years later when you reflect on it, 449 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: how big a deal is it if you didn't have 450 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: that on your resume, how much would that bother you 451 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: at this later stage of your career. 452 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 4: Oh man, honestly, I think it. It would bother me, 453 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: bother me. I think it was something at the time 454 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 4: I was super grateful for and thankful for. But when 455 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 4: you're in the moment, you just think, like, finally I 456 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 4: did it. But I never thought about what it You know, 457 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 4: what I'd feel if I hadn't made it yet, And 458 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 4: you know, it'd be a bummer obviously, because there's a 459 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 4: lot of years that put in a lot of really 460 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 4: good work and you know a lot of positive things happening. 461 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 4: Didn't get that chance and always kind of got up 462 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 4: to the twelve hour, but never you know, got that call, 463 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 4: and so yeah, I can imagine you know, where where 464 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: I be, you know, think about that every night I 465 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 4: went to bed, you know, knowing that I never had 466 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 4: that opportunity. 467 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 5: Mike, we think about not having an opportunity. When I 468 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 5: first came in the league, I was covering the Portland 469 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 5: Trail Blazers. That was my first four years in the 470 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 5: league covering the Blazers, and I got Greg Golden's last 471 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 5: year there and he didn't play that year, and so 472 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 5: I didn't get to build a relationship with him until 473 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 5: later on, like when he went to play for Miami 474 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 5: and I was able to develop a relationship. But uh, Mike, 475 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 5: that was truly like you know, when you talk about 476 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 5: players who had such of a has such of a talent, 477 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 5: had such of a bright future, but it was all 478 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 5: derailed due to injuries due to their body lacking. Like, 479 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 5: when you think of Greg Golden, you got to you 480 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 5: got to play with him. You guys are really good friends. 481 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 5: When you think of Greg Golden, you know what comes 482 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 5: to mind, you know, because obviously you know it's unfortunate 483 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 5: at the time we live in. You know, people label 484 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 5: players bus based off of injuries, when bus really should 485 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 5: mean like, okay, you didn't make it. You didn't play 486 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 5: to a standard when you were healthy, you know, not 487 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 5: due to an injury or whatever. 488 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 6: But when you think of Greg, god, like. 489 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 5: What could have been, Mike, what do you think what 490 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 5: could have been if his body cooperated? 491 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? Man, he's truthfully a special player, and I think 492 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 4: a lot of people knew that, and I think that's 493 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 4: why there was so much expectation for him. But and 494 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: people also know that, you know, the reason why he 495 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 4: is out the league was because the injury stuff, not 496 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 4: because you can't play the game of basketball or not 497 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 4: dominate when he was in the games, which I think 498 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 4: he was having some good years when he did get 499 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 4: on the court. So you know, it's tough. And you know, 500 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 4: actually saw him last week we played in Indie. But 501 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 4: he's a guy that you know, we grew up together. 502 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 4: We we've been around each other forever and he's been 503 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: along you know, we've been along each other's careers every 504 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 4: step of the way, and even to this day as 505 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 4: he's coaching and I'm still playing, you know, we're checking 506 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 4: in and seeing how we're doing, and you know, so 507 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 4: it's it's, uh, it's I just wish he could have 508 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 4: had the opportunities that I that I've had to play 509 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 4: this long, and you know, he would have done so 510 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: much more with it obviously with this talent. But yeah, man, 511 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 4: I just wish you would have had that same, that 512 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 4: same uh, you know, career. 513 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 5: When you guys were in college, Mike, Ohio State, what 514 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 5: were some of the things you guys were talking about, 515 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 5: because obviously you guys knew you were going to play 516 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 5: at the next level, Like, what were some of the 517 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 5: the conversation you were guys that would have about just 518 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 5: your dreams and aspirations in the next leak, in the 519 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 5: next phase of your careers. 520 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 4: Man, honestly, we were we were so different, Like we 521 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: were talking about probably anything other than the basketball, honestly, 522 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 4: like anything other then you know, what we're going to 523 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,239 Speaker 4: be doing for our respective teams and what city we're 524 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 4: going to be playing in. Like, man, we're thinking about 525 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: video games and the next thing, and you know, it's 526 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 4: that time of your life. Everything is just kind of 527 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 4: going by so fast. And yeah, I mean it's we 528 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 4: were always pure coming into this thing, just like just 529 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 4: a green you know, just having a green approach to everything, 530 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 4: and it just kind of everything happens fast, and we just, 531 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 4: you know, never really had an opportunity to sit down 532 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 4: and think about our journey and where we're going to 533 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 4: be headed to and how much we're going to do 534 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 4: with it. 535 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: I don't want to make you look too far into 536 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: the future because I know you're still playing and you 537 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: have years left now on your contract. So but the 538 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: minute you mentioned coaching with Greg that immediately made me wonder, 539 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 2: is coaching something that you think would interest you five 540 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 2: to ten years down the road, Because given the leadership 541 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: roles you've had as a player, that moved to coaching. 542 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 4: Would Yeah. I've always said I kind of didn't want 543 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 4: to coach. But the older I've gotten, the the more 544 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, Man, it's it's basically what I would be 545 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 4: really good at because I can still you know, imprint 546 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 4: my knowledge on guys and players and you know, put 547 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 4: them in best situations to succeed. And but you know, 548 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 4: you said, I hope it's a little bit down the road. 549 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 4: I got to work on, you know, practicing be a 550 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 4: coach for my little you know, son's basketball team or 551 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 4: something like that first kind to get an idea of 552 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 4: what it's like, and and then you know, who knows, 553 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: you know, maybe I'll maybe I'll get there one day. 554 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 5: Mike, is required from time to time that you pick 555 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 5: up a technical for your team as a coach to 556 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 5: ignite something. 557 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 6: Can you do that? 558 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you will get a tech as a coach. 559 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that would be the deal. Yeah, I know that, 560 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 4: And that might be the and why I'm a little 561 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 4: reluctant to say yes about coaching. Take that technical street. 562 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 5: So, Mike, when you think of what you guys have left, 563 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 5: obviously you want to bring cat into the fold. And 564 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 5: and I'm being honest, Like, when I think about teams 565 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 5: as ready to take that step into being championship contended teams, 566 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 5: most of the times those teams have to go through 567 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 5: the hurdles of postseason pitfalls and learn from that and 568 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 5: move on. I mean, there have been a few teams 569 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 5: that just bypass that went all the way, But for 570 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 5: the Temples, are you guys in a situation where you 571 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 5: feel like, you know, this is you know, we've been 572 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 5: number one in the Western Conference for a long time. 573 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 5: Not right now, but we've been up there for a 574 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 5: long time. Is this a situation where it's like, man, 575 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 5: we won a championship this year, or do you feel 576 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 5: like this is all part of the process that we 577 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 5: need to go, you know, just we're still playing and 578 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 5: figuring things out. 579 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I think it's you know, you know, we're 580 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 4: we're just a team of you know, I mean, I 581 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: don't even know how we how would I describe it? 582 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, Honestly, you know, we're just you know, 583 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: a group of guys that are you know, we understand 584 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 4: that first seed, second seed, third seed, like it matters 585 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: in the playoffs, it matters who your matchups are against. 586 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 4: We understand we have to have, you know, postseason success, 587 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 4: you know, to be taken serious. We understand that you 588 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 4: know it post these success is super hard and not 589 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 4: given every year that you're gonna you know, be in 590 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 4: the first round and get out of the first round 591 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 4: or make the playoffs. And you say, yes, we do 592 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 4: want to build as a year ago as years go on, 593 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 4: but not all of us have a lot of time 594 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 4: to you know, build it all the way up and 595 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 4: see how we go in five or six years. So 596 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 4: there is a sense of like urgency that is there 597 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 4: that you know, it's kind of my urgency is kind 598 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 4: of Rudy's urgency, the older guys urgency if like, hey 599 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 4: we can, why don't we just win it now? You know, 600 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 4: why don't we just try now? And that's been our 601 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 4: cold anyway. And we don't want to have to wait 602 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 4: another two or three years just because the guide says 603 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 4: we should wait two or three more years until you know, 604 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 4: you get taken serious as a contender, contended for a championship. 605 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 4: So we'll just see how, you know, things shape out. 606 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 4: Obviously we're gonna be ready to go. 607 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, your radio guy Alan Horton keeps this 608 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: running Tallly of this amazing stat that this season, the 609 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: Wolves have led the West for almost one hundred days, 610 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: and in the previous thirty four seasons of the franchise, 611 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: the Wolves only led the West for ten days total 612 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: in that whole time. And we sat down, Chris and 613 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: I we did a podcast with your coach, Chris Finch 614 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: at All Star weekend in Indianapolis, and I had to 615 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: be that annoying guy who pointed out that the Wolves 616 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 2: as a franchise haven't won a playoff series in two 617 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: twenty years. They've only won two playoff rounds in their 618 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: whole existence. So everybody's going to bring that stuff up, 619 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: you know, Chris says that kind of your guys approaches 620 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: that past history doesn't really apply to us. This is 621 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: a new team, a new group. But how do you 622 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: tune that out when annoying reporters. 623 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 4: Like me are just going to keep it right? You know, 624 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 4: it's it's it's okay, man. We tune out a lot. 625 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 4: We've learned how to you know, tune out you know 626 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: any you know, writers, comments, opinions you know about our 627 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 4: our squad, about the direction. Now serious are and serious 628 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 4: we truthfully are, And what you know the difference between 629 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 4: our teams of last year, this year or two years before. 630 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 4: You know, it's all it's all comes in, it comes 631 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 4: and goes, and I think a lot of us are 632 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 4: handling really well. I think we're handling honestly. The best 633 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 4: thing I think we're handling is is the you know, 634 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 4: there's the jump and success from being you know, with 635 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 4: games are used to be seen as from Minnesota as 636 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 4: opposed to what we're doing now. Is has caused a 637 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 4: lot of you know, positive attention around our team and 638 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 4: in the cities, the people and you can just tell 639 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: every time we walk in the story like that, people 640 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 4: yell like number one in the West like stuff like that, 641 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 4: like because it's all new and it's exciting. But we've 642 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: done a good job of not you know, letting that 643 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 4: affect how we approach today and how we approach you know, 644 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 4: getting better as a team, which we're gonna need, you know, 645 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 4: to have that kind of mentality to sustain any kind 646 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 4: of you know, level of play that we've built. 647 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 6: That's done. 648 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta ask Mike this one more time 649 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 5: because I think everybody is intrigued still with the guys 650 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 5: lack of I mean, excuse him, not lack the guy's 651 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 5: abundance of composure. 652 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 6: I should say, Mike, I want you to dice. 653 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: Why are you trying to You're trying to go to 654 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: him into gett in the next game. 655 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,479 Speaker 6: I gotta I gotta ask about that. I want him 656 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 6: to di st this play. 657 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 5: And I want you to take me inside your head, like, 658 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 5: because most people in this situation now I'm about to 659 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 5: bring up, they will react. 660 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 6: And you did it. 661 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 5: The play and I'm talking about is the game against 662 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 5: the Brooklyn Nets not too long ago. We're down the stretch, 663 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 5: down the stretch of the game. You guys are up 664 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 5: up big already, and you shot at three with twenty 665 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 5: something seconds. Dennis Struder comes over and pushes you, gets 666 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 5: mad that you shot it instead of letting the ball 667 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 5: a set and getting I believe a shot clock violation 668 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 5: at that time. 669 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 6: And I looked at you. 670 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 5: Most players immediately once they're get pushed, most people were like, 671 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 5: just just push back, like it's a reaction. You push back. 672 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 5: Can you take me inside? Like, how do even in 673 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 5: that instance, how do you just keep your composent And 674 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, it ain't no pump. 675 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 6: I'm not saying, yeah, I'm not saying that. 676 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 5: I'm saying like, you know what I mean, like you 677 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 5: you're level headed, like so in that situation, how do 678 00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 5: you still keep your comment? 679 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: It happened so fast. Honestly, I don't think I had 680 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,479 Speaker 4: even real time to react to too much. I just, 681 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 4: you know, one, I was like, that's I think that's 682 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 4: a foul. Like I'm thinking, like that's an a one, 683 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 4: like something I don't even know. I really want that's 684 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 4: my promise with here's a foul. But I don't think that, 685 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 4: you know, at the time, I honestly like I didn't 686 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 4: know what to do with the ball, and man, people 687 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 4: everybody's kind of playing hot potato with like you shoot it, 688 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 4: you shoot it, I don't want it. I was like, man, 689 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,959 Speaker 4: I'll just shoot it from wherever I'm at, just because 690 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 4: I know we got like twenty six twenty five seconds 691 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 4: left and just get the shot off. I don't really 692 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 4: care about make or missing it. But you know, that happened, 693 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 4: and I was just like, man, uh, you know, you know, 694 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 4: just just crazy. I wouldn't. I wasn't prepared for it, 695 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 4: which is probably why I didn't react as uh as 696 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 4: quickly as you know some other people may. 697 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 5: Being a veteran in that situation, you know, there's they 698 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 5: have all these unwritten rules of you know, when do 699 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 5: you shoot it? Do you let the ball go out? 700 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 5: Like where do you stay? I believe, you know, I 701 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 5: played college ball. I didn't play in the NBA, but 702 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 5: I believe, Man, the game is over when the game 703 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 5: is over. But I know most people in the NBA 704 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 5: don't take on that type of mindset. What is your 705 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 5: mindset in that type of situation in the closing. 706 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 6: Of a game. 707 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think as far as you know, I've always 708 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 4: viewed it as I've played until like that last you know, 709 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 4: twenty four seconds basically, you know when that if you 710 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 4: have the ball, you know, under the shot clock, you know, 711 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 4: the shot clocks off, stuff like that, we held the ball, 712 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 4: if there was like a two three second difference in 713 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 4: that you kind of held the ball and you know, 714 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 4: dropped it and went the other way. But anything kind 715 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 4: of like before that time, I think it was just 716 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 4: always you just played and and they finished out the game, 717 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 4: and uh it went from there. So it's it's it's 718 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 4: it's you know, I don't know if it's a trendy thing, right, 719 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 4: now that people are getting upset about it, but it 720 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 4: has been coming up a lot lately, and uh, just 721 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 4: I am not so used to kind of seeing that 722 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 4: haven't played the last sixteen seventeen years, Chris. 723 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: I've got like seven or eight more questions for this man, 724 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: but we gotta let him go unfortunately too long, but 725 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to sneak. I'm gonna try to sneak 726 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: in one or two more and then we're gonna let 727 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 2: him go. As I mentioned off the top, you know 728 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 2: you have appeared more than once on the annual all 729 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: lefty team that I assemble. But I think you are 730 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 2: a natural righty if I have the story correct. So 731 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 2: just in your words, explain your left handedness right handedness? 732 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 3: Maybe you're amphibious. 733 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 4: Is amphibious? 734 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: Jacks likes to say it like that. 735 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: You would please explain for us how you see yourself. 736 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 4: I am a right handed person by nature. I played 737 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 4: basketball left handed, which allows me to truthfully kind of 738 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 4: be amidextrous in basketball. But if you give me a pencil, 739 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 4: it's right with my left hand, I'll you know I 740 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 4: have no chance compared to the right. So it's it's 741 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 4: unique because you know you talk about the right hand 742 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 4: floater and all the right handed shots I shoot. You know, 743 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 4: obviously it's my dominant hand, so a lot of things 744 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 4: I do with my left hand is like people shooting 745 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 4: with their off hands. So you know, I should get 746 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 4: more credit for when I make a lefty three, then 747 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 4: I do a right handed floater because I'm flying blind 748 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 4: on left side. 749 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 2: How old were you when this became the case, when 750 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: you became a left hand. 751 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 4: Dominant Honestly, I've always been. It started probably when I 752 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 4: was four or five, when I would try to, you know, 753 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 4: shoot a ball and a big goal, I would like 754 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 4: hoist it from my left side of my bodies for 755 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 4: whatever reason, and I kind of stuck with me and 756 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 4: and but then as I got older, I knew that 757 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 4: I was because I could take like five days off 758 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 4: of basketball and come back and shoot two shots left 759 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 4: handed and just airball and they shoot it too strong, 760 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 4: and then get it in my right hand and it 761 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 4: just feels so natural, like as if I haven't missed 762 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 4: the day at work. And I was like, I think 763 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 4: I might be like truthfully right handed in basketball. I've 764 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 4: just I got to learn this left side now that 765 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 4: I've done it for so long, so I just didn't 766 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 4: give up on it and have done decent with it. 767 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 6: Sorry, sign Mike Conley. 768 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 2: He is as a left hander, and I've I'm gonna 769 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 2: go out on a limb and say he takes more 770 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 2: shots with his left hand than his right hand over the. 771 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 4: Course of an NBA season. 772 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 2: Bold, bold statement from me some high level analytics there. 773 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: All right, sir, well, we know you got you got. 774 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: You got two games coming up against your old team 775 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: in Utah. You still have three games left in the 776 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 2: regular season with the defending champions from Denver, so a 777 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 2: lot still to do here in the regular season. Wishing 778 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: you and the Wolves success and good luck in the playoffs. 779 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 4: And thanks him ill for doing Thank you, Thank you 780 00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 4: guys so much. 781 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 2: All right, there he goes everyone, Mike Conley from the 782 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 2: Minnesota Timberwolves. 783 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 3: That will do it for. 784 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 2: This edition of this league uncut. As always, remember please 785 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 2: follow us, rate the show, review the show. 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