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Speaker 3: Vikings fans, Welcome to the Free Agency Frenzy edition of.

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Speaker 4: The Minnesota Vikings Podcast.

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Speaker 3: My name is Gabe Henderson, and we have a loaded

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Speaker 3: show for all of you today. As you probably have

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Speaker 3: already seen, the Vikings have been active the first few

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Speaker 3: days of free agency, and today we have the pleasure

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Speaker 3: of being joined by the newest member of the Minnesota Vikings,

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Speaker 3: mister Jonathan Grenard. Without further ado, let's get right to it.

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Speaker 3: The Free Agency Frenzy is in full effect and we

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Speaker 3: break it all down today right here on the Minnesota

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Speaker 3: Vikings Podcast presented by Pepsi. My name is Gabe Henderson,

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Speaker 3: and inside the TCO Radio studio with me right now

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Speaker 3: is Viking dot coms Tatum Everett, Ron Johnson from Vikings

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Speaker 3: Game Day Live, and our producer mister Eric Davidson.

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Speaker 4: Guys, we got a lot to get to today and.

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Speaker 2: For starters something of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you would think it was January first, and

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Speaker 3: everybody's saying Happy New Year, because we're all got new

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Speaker 3: New Year's resolutions, new goals, and new strategies. And that's

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Speaker 3: pretty much what it feels like when free agency starts.

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Speaker 3: It feels like a new year. But just thinking about

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell's and Qracy Dopamensa's press conference today introducing the

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Speaker 3: newest signed members of the Vikings to our fan base,

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Speaker 3: a word that was thrown out a lot to me

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Speaker 3: was smart and physical. These guys were hand selected by

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Speaker 3: this front office. And when you look at just what

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Speaker 3: the Vikings did on Wednesday, they agreed to terms with

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Speaker 3: seven free agents that played elsewhere in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Grenard from Houston, outside linebacker, Alex van Ginkel from Miami.

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Speaker 3: He played with the Dolphins last year. Blake Cashman from Houston,

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Speaker 3: Aaron Jones from the Green a Packer's running back, Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 3: quarterback from San Francisco. Jerry Tillery, who was a late addition.

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Speaker 3: I believe the Vikings signed him on Thursday. He was

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Speaker 3: When you think about the words smart and physical, ron

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Speaker 5: Well, the biggest thing when I look at those names,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to start defensively because that's mainly what it

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Speaker 5: looks like they went after. I mean, they did resign

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Speaker 5: When you think about Justin Jefferson, you think about the vacate,

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Speaker 5: Aaron Jones. I think Brandon Pole can be a big help.

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Speaker 5: But defensively, I can go back to Wisconsin with Van

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Speaker 4: You know, I followed the big ten a Ton.

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Speaker 5: You're getting a true outside linebacker, a true guy that

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Speaker 5: And again, Blake Cashman, you get a younger guy. You

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Speaker 4: That's kind of like your movie C. J.

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Speaker 5: But you know, Blake went to like, he's Minnesota, Minnesota,

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Speaker 4: Technically for a while was Minnesota now Maple.

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Speaker 4: Saint Thomas Academy, Saint Thomas.

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Speaker 5: Academy, you know. Shout out to A. J. Buckner or uh,

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Speaker 5: I went to your game against Chaska. Uh, shout out

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Speaker 5: Kfan Radio. But when you when which I told him,

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Speaker 5: Cashman is Minnesota, you know.

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Speaker 4: Eating prairie. People hate eating prairie like you dining eating Prairie.

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Speaker 5: It goes with like Mighty Ducks, even pray football Mike Grant.

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Speaker 4: It's like again, it feels like a movie.

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Speaker 5: Like if you were to go write a movie about

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Speaker 5: with the Vince Papali guy. You know, Blake Cashman could

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Speaker 5: easily have like John Cena play him in a movie

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Speaker 5: and you know, talk about his life, you know, coming

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And this presser, he said, I've never been more excited

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Speaker 2: Because he's home.

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Speaker 1: He said he called his family after he called John Grenard,

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Speaker 4: You too old to call mom right away?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, he told the girlfriend, hey, we're moving, and

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Speaker 5: Obviously imagine like you should go to practice OTAs Lyftwights whatever.

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Speaker 3: To make this story better, Him and Jonathan Gernard and

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Speaker 5: And that's that's I mean, that's a friendship. That's a

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Speaker 5: go downtown and eat at the Monte Carlo by the way,

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Speaker 5: best wings I've ever had.

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Speaker 4: Uh look all these shameless plugs of that. Have you

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Speaker 5: Yes, I'm saying that the wings there the bet like

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Speaker 5: so that's that's where like Blake can really help you

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Speaker 4: But again he's Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: Like there's so much like going to Gopher games on

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Speaker 5: Like that's going to be the stuff that Blake's probably

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just it's one of those storybook things.

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Speaker 5: But for Blake, I know, it's a huge like because

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Speaker 4: You did it when you got here.

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Speaker 5: You're not from here either, right, you're from here, Okay,

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Speaker 4: But when you move it's tough. You know, Blake, this

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Speaker 5: And I don't know when, but when Blake gets his

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Speaker 5: So the biggest thing I've seen for Blake one, he

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Speaker 5: That guy is just timing ending up in the right

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Speaker 4: That's how Blake was able to have.

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Speaker 5: Those games because you're basically just you're trying to beat

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Speaker 5: If we're spilling the defense.

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Speaker 4: Basically say, our guys are faster than your guys.

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Speaker 5: Correct, and so if we're spilling it meaning I want

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Speaker 5: They just attack non stop, and they constantly attack from

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Speaker 5: different spots. It's never the same five guys kind of,

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Speaker 5: That you know with flow you'll see like seven guys.

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Speaker 5: They want edge rushers and they want dogs at linebacker.

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Speaker 5: And that's what Demiko got when he got Blake Cashman.

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Speaker 5: He's still going out there to play. I mean, Blake

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Speaker 5: It worked like demic O'ryans stood on his business like

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Speaker 3: I think that helps too with Blake Cashman having a

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Speaker 5: That means you can't load the box up on me,

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Speaker 3: Man, well, I think when you have a guy in

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Speaker 5: Correct, And so I think, you know Sam Donald being

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Speaker 1: anyone they can't feel like they can develop correct And

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Speaker 1: I do think that this will be probably one of

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Speaker 1: the most important coaching endeavors for Kevin since being in

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Speaker 1: the league, because he's now the head coach of a

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Speaker 1: team that needs to find a quarterback and that's his specialty.

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Speaker 3: Before you said that, I was Dwayne Haskins twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: I was there at Washington. I think this would be

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Speaker 3: the most important offseason drafting the quarterback since that year

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Speaker 3: because that was the same year as like caller Murray

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, Dwayne Haskins. So he's never had this as

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Speaker 3: a head coach. But I think that twenty nineteen draft

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Speaker 3: will prepare him when trying to bring in a young quarterback,

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Speaker 3: given the fact that he had Colt McCoy and case

447
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Speaker 3: Keenum already on one year deals in Washington. So to me,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of similar just knowing Kevin and understanding that,

449
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Speaker 3: like we've kind of been in this position before, so

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Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see.

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Speaker 4: But your thoughts on the question.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I mean I look at bo Nicks, you

453
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Speaker 5: look at JJ McCarthy, you look at you know, the kid,

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Speaker 5: Drake May. Here's the thing about the NFL. You never

455
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Speaker 5: know what you're gonna get. Everybody now is kicking themselves

456
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Speaker 5: for not drafting to see j Show. Not everybody the

457
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Speaker 5: Panthers for not driving to see his drought. But but

458
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Speaker 5: you know, you just don't know. Like Anthony Richardson with

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Speaker 5: the coach, same thing, I think you know, a team

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Speaker 5: like the Panthers probably could have made him the next

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Speaker 5: Cam Newton, but they decided to go with the Heisman Trophy.

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Speaker 5: And sometimes people let accolades in college dictate who they draft,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I mean you can go back to

464
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Speaker 5: Johnny Manziel and all that stuff. Sometimes it's not about

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Speaker 5: the accolades in college because college is so different from

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Speaker 5: the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's stay's situationally based too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many good quarterbacks that end up

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Speaker 1: on bad teams and then you can never really recover

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Speaker 1: from being in a system where they don't fit well,

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Speaker 1: or don't have the support from the coaching staff, or

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Speaker 1: it's just not working out right.

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Speaker 5: And let's not forget Sam Donald was one of the

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Speaker 5: best college quarterbacks when he was coming out. And to

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Speaker 5: your point of the forty nine ers, they have a

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Speaker 5: system that has made Trey Lance look good, Jimmy Garoppolo

477
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Speaker 5: look good, and now brock Purty. We can't deny that

478
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Speaker 5: Trey Lance, if he doesn't get hurt, it's probably still

479
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Speaker 5: his team, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo, if he doesn't get hurt,

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Speaker 5: probably still has an opportunity. So brock Purty was just

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Speaker 5: the next one in line to be under Shanahan. And

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Speaker 5: I think that's what Kevin O'Connell saw was like, this

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Speaker 5: is a kid that's learned an offense that is very

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Speaker 5: dictated on not being in a bad system.

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Speaker 4: What do you make the decisions count?

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Speaker 5: So count left, count right, Let's go with the numbers.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's what he wants. Sam Donald is

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Speaker 5: smart again. He was successful with the Jets. He just

489
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Speaker 5: had some bad I mean, you go back. I went

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Speaker 5: back and actually watched the twenty nineteen. Some of them areceptions.

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Speaker 5: That's coaching, Like it's easily coaching because if you have

492
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Speaker 5: a too high and Gabe knows this as a receiver,

493
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Speaker 5: if you have too high, you have two hitches and

494
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Speaker 5: two corner routes. You never stare down the corner route

495
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Speaker 5: because the safety is going to undercut you. You stare

496
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Speaker 5: down the scene. You force them to sit on the

497
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Speaker 5: tight end, and then you go to the corner. Sam

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Speaker 5: Donald wasn't taught that or that system just didn't have

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Speaker 5: an outlet. That's why the Tampa two was created. Tony

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Speaker 5: Dungee created because he's like the middle of the field

501
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Speaker 5: is open. I can't stop it. Drop a linebacker. Well,

502
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Speaker 5: how do you beat a linebacker?

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Speaker 4: You get a t. J.

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Speaker 5: Hogginson or a Travis Kelce, They're gonna beat that line

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Speaker 5: or Shannon Sharp, Like Shannon Sharp was one of the

506
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Speaker 5: first tight ends to start doing that up the scene.

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Speaker 4: And so then it became that, like, how do we

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Speaker 4: now stop this four verticals? You can't. The quarterback just

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Speaker 4: has to pick the right one.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's gonna be Kevin O'Connell's job now,

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Speaker 5: like Gabe was saying, like you're saying, Kevin, I think

512
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Speaker 5: is excited about this opportunity. Adam Thiland actually went to

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Speaker 5: the Panthers because of Sam Donald, So there's something to that, Like,

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Speaker 5: let's not forget that was.

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Speaker 3: To your point of you know, quarterbacks being out of

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Speaker 3: you know jobs because of injuries, Like you can argue

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Speaker 3: that Sam Donald, if he didn't get injured in Carolina,

518
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Speaker 3: he could have been the starting quarterback for the future.

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Speaker 3: He was foreign two in this last year in Carolina,

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Speaker 3: so there's an argument there that he was playing his

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Speaker 3: best football before he got injured. So it'll be interesting

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Speaker 3: to see what that looks like here in Purple. I

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Speaker 3: don't think you bring a guy like Sam Darnald in

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Speaker 3: to just, you know, immediately be a backup. Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 3: said earlier that he told, hey, Sam, I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to tell you you're the starting quarterback or the backup.

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Speaker 3: I just want you to compete, and he's going to

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Speaker 3: have some guys that's going to help him compete. When

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Speaker 3: you look at some of the resignings that the Vikings

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Speaker 3: made this week, Blake Brendel, David Quaysonberry two swing tackles

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Speaker 3: can plug and play, but you already still have the

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Speaker 3: same similar offensive line that you had last year, SAMs

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Speaker 3: Dalton Reisner right now, so understanding that you got Johnny

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Speaker 3: Munt coming back. Brendan Powell resigned the offensive resignings. With

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Speaker 3: Sam Darnald being a quarterback on this roster, how do

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Speaker 3: you think that?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 5: I think with Sam Darnold with this team, I mean, honestly,

539
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Speaker 5: in the NFL's about tackles, So Brian O'Neill and Christian

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Speaker 5: Dearrissol starts there. Blake Brandell technically could be your left guard,

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Speaker 5: like I think, you know you think about how Ezra Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: Ever, Ezra Cleveland was a tackle as well.

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Speaker 5: I think Boise and they ended up moving him to

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Speaker 5: guard and then he ended up becoming like a really

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Speaker 5: good starter. I mean, he's just got a new contract,

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Speaker 5: you know. So that's the thing about tackles. They're usually

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Speaker 5: your best athletes and smartest. If you can move a

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Speaker 5: tackle to guard, now you have another smart athlete in there.

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Speaker 5: And I think with Kevin O'Connell is realizing that there's

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Speaker 5: a lot a lot of like, there's not a lot

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Speaker 5: of three hundred and eighty pound, you know, nose tackles anymore.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's kind of like guys are vegans. They're

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Speaker 5: vegetarians now like people are eating smart. These players are

554
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Speaker 5: three point thirty and sexy, and you know they're they're

555
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Speaker 5: there's felt. They're not like the big, huge guys we

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Speaker 5: used to see with refrigerated Perry.

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Speaker 4: We got one in the draft this year.

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Speaker 3: But to your point to ventre sweats, like six five,

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Speaker 3: three seventy, right, he's one of how many one of

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Speaker 3: one exactly.

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Speaker 4: Like and so I'm more of like Illinois guy, like

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Speaker 4: the Johnny Johnny Newton Johnnick's yeh three hundred.

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Speaker 5: So when you think about him, because I remember him,

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Speaker 5: he was suspended the first couple quarters of the Gopher

565
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Speaker 5: game comes in and reaks havoc. He's only about three

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Speaker 5: twenty three thirty, you know, but he's a beast. But

567
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Speaker 5: he's fast. So what do you need to stop a

568
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Speaker 5: fast guard or nose tackle? You need fast guards, like

569
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Speaker 5: your guards can't just be three hundred and sixty pound

570
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Speaker 5: blobs anymore. Like Zach Martin Quentin Nelson, they changed the

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Speaker 5: game for the guard. They're like, oh, these are athletes.

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Speaker 5: And everybody laughed about the Quentin Nelson draft. Oh he

573
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Speaker 5: drafted too high. Look at him, you know, Zach Marty, Ah,

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Speaker 5: you went too high. Nope, look at him. And so

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Speaker 5: I think that's where the vikings sit with Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 5: He's not fast, he's not going to escape the pocket like,

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Speaker 5: that's not his game.

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Speaker 4: His game is I want to find.

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Speaker 5: And recreate the pocket, like he's good at stepping up

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Speaker 5: and recreating a pocket. Who's really good at repositioning himself,

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Speaker 5: Christian darrisaw So, I think you're going to see that,

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Speaker 5: and same with what Brian ONeill. I think Brian O'Neill

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Speaker 5: does pretty well as well. So I think that's going

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Speaker 5: to be Sam Darnold's job is to learn how to

585
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Speaker 5: recreate the pocket.

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Speaker 4: Where are we at?

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Speaker 5: He's a guy that's getting the ball out of his

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Speaker 5: hand quick. He's used to the West Coast offense, like

589
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Speaker 5: he played in it in college. So that's I think

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Speaker 5: all of that combined is what probably intrigued Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 5: about that. And it's weird. I saw him on the

592
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Speaker 5: TV for the presser and it still hadn't hit me.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, like him and Aaron Jones sitting there together

594
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Speaker 5: just felt weirzer. But I'm like, that's I mean, this

595
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Speaker 5: is my tenth year now doing Vikings Game Day Live,

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Speaker 5: so now I'm kind of I feel like it. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: you know what, and like I'm excited most because this

598
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Speaker 5: is what the NFL is about every single year. People

599
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Speaker 5: have no idea. That's why Vegas is so rich. You

600
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Speaker 5: have no idea who to put your money on. But

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Speaker 5: I can guarantee you Kevin O'Connell was going to try

602
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Speaker 5: to have an offense that doesn't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 5: If you think about the number of turnovers, if they

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Speaker 5: did not have those and the way the defense was

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Speaker 5: playing last year, what this team exactly, And so that's

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Speaker 5: I know, Kevin, that's in Kevin O'Connell's mind too, is like,

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Speaker 5: how can I cut out some of these early fumbles?

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Speaker 4: How can I cut out some of these you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean was off fumbles.

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Speaker 5: It was a couple of interceptions, but like, how do I.

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Speaker 4: Cut that out? Like, and so that's gonna be the

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Speaker 4: next step.

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Speaker 5: It's like these were these were not like mind errors,

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Speaker 5: these were effort errors. These were lacks of days ago

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Speaker 5: swinging the ball not realizing there's a guy trying to

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Speaker 5: kill me and punch the ball out. That's just I mean,

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Speaker 5: that's a want to thing. And so that's what's so

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Speaker 5: funny is people forgot about how many early turnovers, like

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Speaker 5: early game turnovers.

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Speaker 3: The Vikings, well, I mean rounding rounding out our resignings

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Speaker 3: were theo Jackson's safety he signed early, and then Jonathan

622
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Speaker 3: Buller just resigned and they're rounding out the resignings as

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Speaker 3: we record this podcast. On Thursday at about five pm,

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Speaker 3: Harrison Smith took a restructured deal to remain with the

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Speaker 3: Vikings for his thirteenth season. In my opinion, I think

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Speaker 3: he's a Hall of Famer. When you look at Harrison

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Speaker 3: Smith coming back for his thirteenth season, what stands out

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Speaker 3: to you on how he can impact this defense again

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Speaker 3: under Brian flores Well.

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Speaker 5: I mean, as a safety, the smartest thing is to

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Speaker 5: play for a coach that has three safeties.

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Speaker 4: On the field.

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Speaker 5: And like even watching his highlights after he like put

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Speaker 5: that video out, you know, like, oh yeah, you know,

635
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Speaker 5: if you don't want to, if you can still do it,

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Speaker 5: you can keep doing it, and you do it and

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Speaker 5: so but his highlights, he was lined up in the end,

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Speaker 5: he was lined up at linebacker level.

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Speaker 4: He was blitzing the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Harrison Smith realizes this is a defense that can allow

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Speaker 5: him to make more plays to solidify.

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Speaker 4: That gold jacket. I think he's a Hall of Famer

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Speaker 4: for sure.

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Speaker 5: If you look at Paul Cross's career, Harrison Smith is

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Speaker 5: right there with him. You look at National overall interceptions,

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Speaker 5: He's right there with those guys. You look at Ed

647
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Speaker 5: Reid an impact on the game, He's right there with it. Now,

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Speaker 5: Ed Reed was a little bit more like fancy where

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Speaker 5: Ed would like roam the field and get to do stuff.

650
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 5: You can do that when you have ray Lewis Smith. Yeah, Harrison,

651
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 5: and he had ray Lewis and Terrell Sugg. I mean

652
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 5: he had Pete bowl Waer like Ed Reed has played

653
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 5: with a lot.

654
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 4: Of good defensive linemen.

655
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 5: You look at uh, you know, matu Afa like all

656
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 5: those guys like Ed Reid had a bunch of dogs

657
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 5: up in front of him and then he had corners.

658
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 5: Harrison Smith has put together a career sometimes without that

659
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 5: without you know, think about the years with Mike Zimmer

660
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 5: when they were the worst defense in the league. Harrison

661
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 5: Smith was still soild, like their fourth corner exactly.

662
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: Still making plays.

663
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 5: And so just the fact that people can say he's

664
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 5: a you know, like cam bind them speaks highly of him.

665
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 6: Uh.

666
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 5: You know, this is a guy personally who was text

667
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 5: me during the pandemic when my daughter was doing the

668
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 5: Bracelets seal and showed up to my house, Like he

669
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 5: drove to my house and was like, man, I want

670
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 5: to come buy some bracelets. I had to text the

671
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: Vikings because I didn't like trust that that was his

672
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 5: social media. So I'm like texting Vikings like I'm not

673
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 5: giving this guy my address. I'm like who is this

674
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 5: and they're like, no, that's Harrison Smith's number.

675
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 4: I was like, because it was a super I'm like,

676
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 4: I'm not giving you my address. Dude, like, who is it?

677
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 5: Because there was no blue check mark. So I'm like, no,

678
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 5: man got exactly like get a blue check mark or

679
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 5: so like. So the Vikers did to me like you're gonna.

680
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: Pay for that?

681
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: Right?

682
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 5: But before that, so before he wasn't big on social media,

683
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 5: so I think he never meted the process, but you know,

684
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 5: and then he did.

685
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, man, the Vikings like, here's

686
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: my number. So he texts me. I was like, I'm

687
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 4: not trusting the internet. But he showed up.

688
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 5: So like he's that guy though, like he just you know,

689
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 5: like he randomly just comes places. I've seen him out

690
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 5: downtown and we've chopped it up for a minute. I've

691
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 5: seen him in the elevator, you know, in the stadium,

692
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 5: same thing. Like he's always been a good guy. But

693
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 5: on the field, he's a difference maker. And I think

694
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 5: he's smart because who wants to move in the last

695
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 5: two years of their career or three years even if

696
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 5: he can get that. But he's a guy that knows

697
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 5: you don't get to play for the same team for thirteen, fourteen,

698
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 5: fifteen years.

699
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 4: And he's going to be one of them. He knows.

700
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: Marketing wise, legacy wise. Think about Ed Reid in the

701
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: Jets uniform.

702
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: It was weird, you know it like it's like what's

703
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: his name? The guy Darrow Reebis and the Patriot jail. Yeah,

704
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: just it's weird. So he knows like equals Yeah, that's

705
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: gonna be really weird. But you know he knows that.

706
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: He's like, do I want to go somewhere else? Like

707
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: eleven million or nine million? It's a lot of money

708
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: either way. He's made a lot of money in his career.

709
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: His wife is pregnant.

710
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 5: I don't know she had the baby yet, but I

711
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 5: know she was pregnant, and so you know, when you

712
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 5: have that a new baby, also a toddler, do you

713
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 5: really want to uproot your family and leave when it's like, babe,

714
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 5: nine million and we.

715
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 4: Could stay, Let's just stay, Like who wants to move?

716
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 5: Moving sucks back in boxes finding new places to live,

717
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 5: like I get when you're young and you have this.

718
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 5: Dude's on his thirteenth year. So for Brian Flores, it

719
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 5: adds And think about leaders. Eric Kendrick's gone, Bar's gone

720
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 5: to Neil Hunter's now gone, Kirk Cousins is gone, you know,

721
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 5: like Harrison Smith is now They need that captain, that

722
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 5: old man to be in the locker room and be

723
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 5: able to hang out, tell guys what to do, get

724
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 5: them lined up. Hey, this is how meetings should go.

725
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 5: Show up early for this, Like you got to have

726
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 5: that because my guess is he passes the torch to

727
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 5: Josh mctellis or Cambinam. But you got to have somebody

728
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 5: to pass the torch. And that's that's that this defense

729
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 5: is going to be very young, very unknown, and Harrison

730
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 5: Smith is going to be that kind of that that

731
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 5: beacon of like light to everybody, like we know that guy.

732
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: Understanding that this is a brand new team, brand new identity.

733
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: Our quarterback, Kirk Cousins is with the Atlanta Falcons, so

734
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: it's going to be a new identity. Usually take on

735
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: the identity of your either your head coach and or

736
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: your quarterback. How do you see the Vikings improving this

737
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 3: roster this upcoming offseason?

738
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, so when you look at the defense, for a

739
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 5: lot of offensive head coaches, they tend to worry about

740
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 5: the offense. And I think Kevin O'Connell did a great

741
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 5: job with Quacy looking at the defense right away, Like

742
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 5: going with Brian Floors, because Brian Floya is let's be

743
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 5: realre he's a head coach, like he is a head

744
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 5: coach in this league. And so you go to the

745
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 5: other head coach and you say, what do you need

746
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 5: to be successful? They did that, And then from an

747
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 5: offensive standpoint, what do you need? Okay, I need a

748
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 5: running back. I need a quarterback. All right, let's get

749
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 5: you that. You're tight end. We'll see when TJ can

750
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 5: come back. But for the most part, you re signed

751
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 5: Nick Muse, you get Johnny Munt, you know, so you

752
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 5: got guys you're trying to get under contract at least

753
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 5: to get through the early parts.

754
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 4: There's some tight ends you can draft. We know that.

755
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 5: I don't think they look for that in a free

756
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 5: agency market. I think it is gonna be a young

757
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 5: rookie maybe if you can get a second, third round

758
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: guy in there. Receiver wise, I think they're good. But

759
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 5: the identity is gonna come. Honestly, I think it's gonna

760
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 5: be a little bit more defensive led to start, Like

761
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 5: if your defense, when you think about Blake Cashman and

762
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 5: all these new guys, it has to be like a

763
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 5: smash mouth. Like the one thing about the Texans and

764
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 5: I don't know if you watch the playoff game, but

765
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 5: when you watch the Texans playoff game, it felt brutal,

766
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 5: like they were smashing, they were hitting, they were like

767
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 5: talking crap like.

768
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: That's what that's.

769
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 5: That was Demiko Ryan saying, look, this is what we're

770
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 5: gonna be. For the Vikings, it was always Kirk Cousins,

771
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 5: justin Jefferson. I think there's gonna be some JJ for sure.

772
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 5: That's that's that's the team. But defensively, you've got to

773
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 5: have people walk into your stadium and when.

774
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 4: The crowd gets loud, they're scared.

775
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 5: You know, there were times where that wasn't happening here,

776
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 5: and last year you felt like over time like Flora's

777
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 5: got these guys flying around confusing the crap out of people.

778
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 5: Where I remember Josh mctellos saying that where they were

779
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 5: like he could hear the team across the way trying

780
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 5: to like guess like, oh, they're about to go cover

781
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 5: two and then we're in cover four.

782
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: Oh, watch out for the blitz.

783
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: Remember the opening game when Baker Mayfield after the game,

784
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, I knew what they were doing

785
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: at all times.

786
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean it usually takes a few weeks.

787
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: For for sure.

788
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the defense early on, like when you think

789
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 5: about what this team can be, it's going to be that.

790
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 5: I think Kevin O'Connell's thing is like, look, man, like

791
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 5: slow them down, let them.

792
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: Matriculate down the field.

793
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 5: Let's not give up the big play, because I think

794
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 5: that's what killed them too, is the big gash plays.

795
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 5: It's going to be a defensive minded team, which is fine.

796
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 5: And then from there you still have justin Jefferson, any

797
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 5: spotlight because the spotlight wasn't Kirk. That was a bright light.

798
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 5: You take that away because if it is a rookie

799
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 5: or if it is Sam Donald, you don't want that.

800
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 5: You don't want the world staring at your quarterback comparing

801
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 5: them every week to what you used to have.

802
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 4: Let them just move the ball of the field. Let

803
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 4: them be a team.

804
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 5: But that defense create turnovers half Harrison Smith get guys

805
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 5: lined up, and I think that's gonna be the key,

806
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 5: Like the green dot. Is it gonna be Blake Cashman? Probably?

807
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 5: But how does that work? Like Blake Cashman, you know,

808
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 5: and Blake Cashman is a huge Harrison Smith guy, you

809
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like he grew up here watching

810
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 5: Harrison Smith play.

811
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: So I think even for that that's like a oh wow,

812
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 4: that's yeah.

813
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 5: So like being able to communicate with Arison Smith, Hey

814
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 5: what you got back there? All right, we're doing this,

815
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: We're you know, close it right, boom, let's line up

816
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: and play. So when you think about the defense getting

817
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 5: lined up when you got Grenard on one side in

818
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 5: Van Ginkel, there's nothing they can go back to a

819
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 5: coach and say, we didn't do it like that last year.

820
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 5: You know, same thing like a quarterback. You have a

821
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 5: new quarterback. So the only person that's really gonna say,

822
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 5: like we called it this, it's gonna be justin Jefferson.

823
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 5: All the other guys are kind of gonna be like,

824
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 5: all right, that's what we're calling it now, that's how

825
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 5: we're doing it. JJ wasn't your choice guy, quote unquote

826
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 5: in a lot of the plays besides when they went bunch.

827
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 5: So that's the tight ends who can say, hey, how

828
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 5: do you want your choice route to look? How do

829
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 5: you want this to look? So it's gonna be a

830
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 5: lot of new to this, But I think that's good though,

831
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 5: Like OTA's you know that when you walk on the

832
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 5: field for the first time, everybody. It's a blank slate

833
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 5: and Kevin O'Connell's gonna be building from scratch. And when

834
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 5: he starts to build that offense, and when you know

835
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 5: Flores is putting that defense back together, You're gonna see

836
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 5: a bunch of guys excited to like figure this out

837
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 5: because they're figuring it out together versus guys that have

838
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 5: been here for years.

839
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 4: Sometimes it can get stale.

840
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 5: Sometimes you can have drama with like different personalities. These

841
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 5: are gonna be a bunch of new guys. Everybody's got

842
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 5: their money. I mean, there's not a lot of contract

843
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 5: negotiation issues. I think the only thing people are looking

844
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 5: forward to is the draft. Now, It's like, what is

845
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 5: the draft gonna do? But if I'm building this team,

846
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 5: I'm Kevin O'Connell. I'm putting a lot on Harrison Smith.

847
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 5: I hate to say it, like he's he's been here

848
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 5: the longest. You need to tell everybody about this culture.

849
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: Well, a guy that's going to be a huge addition

850
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: to this culture is our special guest on today's show.

851
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: His name is Jonathan Garnard. He joins us now and

852
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: let's get right to it. Well, it is now time

853
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: to officially welcome the newest member of the Minnesota Vikings

854
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 3: edge department. I'm talking about our guy outside linebacker, mister

855
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: Jonathan Grenard. Man, this is I said it right, you

856
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: said perfect. I said it perfect. I heard your press

857
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: conference earlier. You said what you say my last name, right.

858
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 6: I don't just say Grenard, right, that's all I care about.

859
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: For a guy who just had a five month old child,

860
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: you look fairly good.

861
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, thanks to my fiance.

862
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 4: Man.

863
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 6: Shout out to her, shout I saw the mothers out

864
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 6: there for sure, because I just know, like that's a

865
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 6: that's a hard job in thisself. I mean, I play ball,

866
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 6: and you would think that you know, banging heads against

867
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 6: this and that man having a child and dealing with that,

868
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 6: you know by yourself. You know at times when we're

869
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 6: at work. Man, she took all the pressure off of me,

870
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 6: so you know, some get my fair share, not and offseason,

871
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 6: but but but during that season, man, she was amazing

872
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 6: to help me out ato where I can be playing

873
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 6: to be at my best self for the team. And

874
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 6: I think that that's why you know, she's she's my

875
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 6: woman for sure.

876
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: Well then you enter free agency right after and you

877
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: are now in the midst of listening to different teams offers,

878
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: how was that overall process for you?

879
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: And what stood out about the Vikings?

880
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 6: It was exciting just in general to be like wanted

881
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 6: and you know, talked about as a possible opportunity to

882
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 6: go to these teams. So I just took that all

883
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 6: in at that point, just because you know, not a

884
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 6: lot of people are able to as we know, the

885
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 6: average year in the leagues with one point vie and

886
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 6: it's going down, you know, so to be to this point,

887
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 6: I'm extremely blessed. But in that process it was really good.

888
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 6: I mean you had teams here, teams here, different tiers

889
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 6: and how they value you. And but the main thing

890
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 6: of Minnesota is just stood I just you know, one

891
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 6: is the facilities.

892
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 4: Number one.

893
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 6: You know, when you talk about all the teams, you

894
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 6: kind of lay out everything. You know, where they are

895
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 6: as a football standpoint, where they are as a team stample,

896
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 6: where they are you know, facility wise, like how is everything?

897
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 6: And that plays a lot into it. You know, front office,

898
00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 6: who like how is it? Coaching?

899
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: Like all of these things go into it.

900
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 6: So when Minnesota came about, I'm be honest, I didn't

901
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 6: think that it would be Minnesota. At first, I just

902
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 6: knew like, okay, there's a possibility. But as time progressing,

903
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 6: we kind of seeing how, you know, how much they

904
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 6: wanted me, how how much like they valued me and

905
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 6: my what I could bring to the team. When it

906
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 6: came down to it, I had to just break down

907
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 6: to and say, hey, look who wants me most and

908
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 6: where am I going to make the most plays? And

909
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 6: where am I going to be the most effective? And

910
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 6: all of those boxes were checked when when Minnesota came about. So,

911
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 6: you know, KOs is amazing. You know, uh, Quays as

912
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 6: good too, as well flow as well, like all of

913
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 6: these guys. We literally just you know, we just had

914
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 6: that dinner last night, and just seeing how we all

915
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 6: messed together well and how they how they messed together.

916
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 6: It was really good to see. And honestly having that

917
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 6: transparency as a player is amazing.

918
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 4: What was that dinner? Like last name, oh man, A

919
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 4: lot of steak.

920
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 6: I would say that it was a good state Man.

921
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 6: It was good. So the pizza was amazing. I don't

922
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 6: know about the dough is it was something about that

923
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 6: dough was was really good. That hangar steak I had

924
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 6: very very good. No, actually was a butcher's cut because

925
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 6: you guys.

926
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: You were at the you're at the Omni Vikings like

927
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: just for anyone that one seat the same thing.

928
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It was like and Ices Quick Club.

929
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, that restaurant every night.

930
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 6: And I said, I if that's right across the street

931
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 6: from practice. I mean, y'all might have to worry about

932
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 6: my weight problem or something like that. But it's all good, man.

933
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 6: It was really good. Very The hospitality was great there too,

934
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 6: So that's another part too that just made more sense

935
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 6: of why the city is the city, and you know,

936
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 6: this organization.

937
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 4: Is so good.

938
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: You did share in your presser about that dinner how

939
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: it was something new for you, not not like seeing

940
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: these men that you have gotten to know throughout this

941
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: courting process, I guess you could say, and now you're

942
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: spending time with them outside of football.

943
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: What was it like to get to know them as people?

944
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: Right? It was great.

945
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 6: I mean, like I feels like I'm talking to another

946
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 6: teammate and then we break down the ex's and o's.

947
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 4: You know, we sit down.

948
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 6: Their coaching hat comes in and it also comes off,

949
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 6: so they kind of know when to when to do

950
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 6: these things, you know, being a younger guy like you know, Koc,

951
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 6: He's been there, understands how it is as a player

952
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 6: and how do you need to relate to the players

953
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 6: and how you need to get through to them. And

954
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 6: I think that, you know, I've only been in one place,

955
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 6: and you know, I've had a lot of coaching changes,

956
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 6: a lot of you know, GM, all this stuff, all

957
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 6: the changes in there, so I didn't know what normally

958
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 6: kind of looked like when it's efficient like these guys.

959
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 6: So I think that the communication was efficient throughout the

960
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 6: whole time, that everything was explained, Everything's laid out in

961
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 6: front of you on the platter.

962
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 4: There's no secrets.

963
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 6: You know, they know everything about me and they're going

964
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 6: to continue to grow and learn more about them as well.

965
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 6: But one thing for Starger is that they all had

966
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 6: the common goal of trying to get me here. And

967
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 6: I think that's where I love that the most so

968
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 6: and I know I'll run through a brick wall for

969
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 6: any one of them dealing like that. So they know

970
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 6: they got a dog. I mean, that's why they I

971
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 6: feel like they brought me in.

972
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: And I think that that dog mentality showed up in

973
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 3: the statute last last year, and interesting and just looking

974
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 3: at you know, your personal success and the team success

975
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 3: you guys had in Houston last year, How did that

976
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: prepare you for this process of becoming Minnesota Viking?

977
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 4: Right?

978
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 6: I think when you got guys all around there, you

979
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 6: know that are very very time to it in one place.

980
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 6: You have to have the right guys to win those

981
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 6: games in deeper obviously in January and February.

982
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 4: So once we know we.

983
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 6: Had a younger team at certain spots, you know, obviously

984
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 6: alluding to CJ. Once we kind of knew what type

985
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 6: of guy he was as a leader, as a person,

986
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 6: I knew that, Okay, we're gonna be taking care of

987
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 6: on that side. Now on the defensive side, we had

988
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 6: to make sure that our mentality is right so that

989
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 6: way we can get the ball to somebody like that.

990
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 6: So when you get you know, these opportunities and you

991
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 6: get the showcase talents, and you got guys over there

992
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 6: that can make plays, similar just like it is here.

993
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 6: You got guys all around the ball that can make plays.

994
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 6: My job on defense is to get the bottom as

995
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 6: money as many times as possible. So however that may

996
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 6: look strip sacks, where there's fumbles, you know, turnover him downs,

997
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 6: you know, just doing anything we can possibly can to

998
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 6: make sure we get those guys on the offensive side

999
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 6: of the ball as much as possible. And I think

1000
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 6: that mentality has stuck on me through all of not

1001
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 6: even just NFL, but college as well, you know, alluding

1002
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 6: back when we had Lamar in college. So that was

1003
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 6: that was amazing to understand that. That's imagine the practice.

1004
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I think the most exciting Prices had to

1005
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 6: be freshman year because he was he was after a

1006
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 6: couple of practices freshman year, nobody could touch me.

1007
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 4: Anymore, I mean to me anyways.

1008
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 6: But I mean he used to break eighty yardists like

1009
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 6: it was nothing. I mean, so, but yeah, just back

1010
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 6: to that point, just shows that, you know, when you

1011
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 6: got guys like that that are able to make plays

1012
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 6: around the ball, just get them the ball and they're

1013
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 6: gonna make something happen.

1014
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 4: And that's my mom.

1015
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 6: So I'll be definitely trying to do that at all

1016
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 6: times for sure.

1017
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: A career high twelve and a half sacks last year,

1018
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: ESPN ranked you is six in the NFL and past

1019
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: pass rush win rate. The style that you play, can

1020
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: you describe that and how it can elevate Brian Flores's

1021
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: scheme in particular.

1022
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 4: Right well, as we know, Flow like to send it.

1023
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 6: I mean Flow is aggressive, as we know, and I

1024
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 6: think I fit well that just because that's my mo.

1025
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 6: I like to get off, I like to make people uncomfortable.

1026
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 6: I like to be disruptive, and I like to get

1027
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 6: on people fast like I just love to just you know,

1028
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 6: have that mentality of I'm not gonna let up to

1029
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 6: the game is over, you know, so they can look

1030
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 6: at the stature and artist and think that it.

1031
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 4: Ain't gonna be done nothing like that.

1032
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 6: But I guarantee at the end of the game, yeah,

1033
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 6: you're gonna be seeing a whole different stories. So I

1034
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 6: think that's the main thing too, is just we bringing

1035
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 6: that intensity, even bring guys like Cashing and Gink over here.

1036
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 6: I mean, these guys are guys who love to run

1037
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 6: and love to just play fast, and and I think

1038
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 6: that's what this identity of the defense is gonna be,

1039
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 6: is just play fast. I mean, make make teams uncomfortable

1040
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 6: for sure.

1041
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: I mean the sacks, that's that's the stat that everybody

1042
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 3: looks at, right oh man, blah blah blah blah blah.

1043
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: But one thing that stood out to me was your

1044
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 3: run stop percentage, being aggressive setting your edge as an

1045
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: outside linebacker edge rusher for sure, how important is setting

1046
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: the edge? And I guess stopping the run for sure

1047
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 3: in your position.

1048
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, stopping the thing is. Stopping the run is a

1049
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 6: want to thing. Like you have to want to stop

1050
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 6: the run. It's not like you can just be a

1051
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 6: strong guy say okay, well I mean going to stop

1052
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 6: the runner, You're gonna get blown off. So, like I

1053
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 6: think that my mentality and as I keep alluding to,

1054
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 6: like my statute, they will think that I was just

1055
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 6: gonna run a ball in them all day. All right,

1056
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 6: Well find out you know what I'm saying, Like, I

1057
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 6: think that that's that's what I carry that chip on

1058
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 6: my shoulder all the time when it comes to that

1059
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 6: run game, as you have to earn the right to

1060
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 6: rush your passer. You know, anytime you stop in the run,

1061
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 6: it just messes everything up, messes up the timing of

1062
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 6: the offense. And now it makes it more predictable to

1063
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 6: get in these pass rushers. Pass rushes don't become pass

1064
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 6: rusher and let you stop that run. So I think

1065
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 6: that once we stop that and understand the basis of

1066
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 6: you know, football and how to attack opponents is stopping

1067
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 6: that run and make sure that we get them behind

1068
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 6: the sticks. It lets us be that name, that pass

1069
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 6: rusher that you wanted that people love to see and

1070
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 6: get the sacks and all that. So yeah, it's just

1071
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 6: it's a lot that goes into it. But definitely stopping

1072
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 6: that run, getting TFLs and all that definitely makes sure.

1073
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 4: For your energy. Like when you talk about stopping on

1074
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 4: the run.

1075
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 6: Come on, you got to, I mean, listen, it's I

1076
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 6: have I had more times where I have more TFLs

1077
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 6: and sacks any day. That's that's that's just kind of

1078
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 6: been my mo where Okay, I know I can stop

1079
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 6: that run. Yeah, that's that's just not that that's not

1080
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 6: even up for discussion. But as we know, rushing that

1081
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 6: pastor is different story. But I still take that same mentality,

1082
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 6: you know, to rushing the pastor and it doesn't have.

1083
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 4: To look pretty.

1084
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 6: It ain't gonna be pretty, but it's gonna get done.

1085
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: So your teammate from Houston, Blake Cashman, is now also

1086
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: in Minnesota Vikings saying that you were the second person

1087
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: he called before his family girlfriend comes first before his family.

1088
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: He called you and said, hey, man, yeah.

1089
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: Man, let's go do it.

1090
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 6: It's crazy, Like I said, I seen a tweet that

1091
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 6: had us both tagged in it. And I don't know

1092
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 6: how I've seen it because obviously I had just you know,

1093
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 6: the news is broke by mind. So I'm just looking

1094
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 6: and I see Cashman tagged, and I'm like, what's cash

1095
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 6: taging for? And I look up and I just instantly

1096
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 6: typing Blake Cashman in it, and it popped up and

1097
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 6: I said, ain't no way.

1098
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: You guys hadn't talked about it at all.

1099
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 6: Never had I mean, I've always know he's been from

1100
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 6: here for sure, but never once did we say Minnesota,

1101
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 6: like we never just I mean, we didn't really discuss

1102
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 6: teams as much in the general because we still figuring

1103
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 6: it out. But once that happened, I mean he called me.

1104
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 6: I was really hitting everybody up because I had I

1105
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 6: got a new phone, so I didn't know his old

1106
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 6: number in there. I was like, yo, I saw them

1107
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 6: my ultimate what's cash even?

1108
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 4: DM?

1109
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 6: Like three times like yo, call me a sad And

1110
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 6: as soon as he's seen that, had he faced time

1111
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 6: and we were just sitting.

1112
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: There just like yeah, you guys seem really close.

1113
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 6: Like we were like yo, because we just came back

1114
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 6: from a wedding from a former teammate in Hawaii, and

1115
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 6: as I was leaving, as we both were leaving for

1116
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 6: our flights, he was the last person I seen and

1117
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 6: we were literally getting you know, getting some food or

1118
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 6: smoothly from like this little restaurant on the resort, and

1119
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 6: we're just.

1120
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, man, like.

1121
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 6: Best of luck to you in a sense, like you know,

1122
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 6: we don't know. We didn't know what was going on

1123
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 6: obviously in Houston or whatever before, but we just know, hey,

1124
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 6: look it could happen. So now to see this man,

1125
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 6: it was full circle to know that he was the

1126
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 6: last person I talked to before all this broke. Man,

1127
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 6: it's great to be and he played behind me at

1128
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 6: that point.

1129
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

1130
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 6: So it's fun, man, to have a guy like that

1131
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 6: who knows how I play already be able to come

1132
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 6: in and command the defense and definitely still make plays.

1133
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 4: Gonna be great.

1134
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: You're sorry.

1135
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: It's like you're coming in here and you have already

1136
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: like at least a little bit of a comfortability.

1137
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And I think that's the main thing is

1138
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 6: you're not yourself. You can't make plays you're not yourself.

1139
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 6: So I think that with Cash, he's always been that

1140
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 6: fast guy who's always just make sure that you know,

1141
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 6: he's on top of everything, knowing a lot about football,

1142
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 6: so he can easily help us out when it comes

1143
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 6: to making plays or trying to learn about certain defenses

1144
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 6: and certain schemes. So having him here, man, he's it

1145
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 6: was a It was definitely breath or fresh air for sure.

1146
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 4: To know that alone.

1147
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm assuming when when Blake starts to you know,

1148
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: get his feet settled here in Minnesota, that's probably gonna

1149
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: be your right hand man. Hey, tell me your favorite restaurant,

1150
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 3: tell me what you know it.

1151
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 4: You know it.

1152
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 6: And I literally talked him already, Listen, you are going

1153
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 6: to be my chauffeur. You need to take me everywhere.

1154
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 6: If you've your best food places, your best chill spots,

1155
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 6: like on on everything. I think that's the best thing

1156
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 6: about you know, coming up here. I think it's all

1157
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 6: read and it was already written at this point. I'm

1158
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 6: just living and walking in it because to be placed

1159
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 6: here with someone like Cash, you know, with the coaches

1160
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 6: and how they and the staff wanted me it's all God.

1161
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 6: It's honestly just all just brought here by God. And

1162
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 6: I think that's the main thing where I can just

1163
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 6: rest in that and it takes aut to the fact

1164
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 6: that I was supposed to be here.

1165
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 4: Love it.

1166
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: My last question for you, you know, this is day

1167
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 3: one as a Viking for you or whatever they want

1168
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: officially fish as a Minnesota Viking. Fast forward years down

1169
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: the road, how does Jonathan Greener want to be remembered?

1170
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, during time here.

1171
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 6: Yep, So you see how he did it that quick,

1172
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 6: but how quick it happened.

1173
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 4: But it's all good. Yeah.

1174
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 6: But like I think that you know, me even having

1175
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 6: my energy in the way I am as a person.

1176
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 6: They asked me earlier, you know, how do you, you know,

1177
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 6: compare to people before? I said, my job was not

1178
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 6: to come here and try to be everybody else to

1179
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 6: feel shoes. My job is to be JG. Be that

1180
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 6: same person on the field that got me to this point.

1181
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 6: I'm still gonna be talking trash, still gonna be that person,

1182
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 6: that level of person, or that that brother you can

1183
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 6: talk to the shoulder of the cry on.

1184
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: Like I've been through all of that.

1185
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 6: I've been through a lot of stuff and I think

1186
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 6: that that's the main thing where I can help others.

1187
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 6: And I think that this team has a lot of

1188
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 6: needs in certain spots. And you know, we can all

1189
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 6: talk about the physical aspect, but the mental aspect. I

1190
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 6: feel like I can really bring a different element to

1191
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 6: this team.

1192
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 4: Because I've been there.

1193
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 6: I've been at the lowest of the lowest me I

1194
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 6: have so getting to this point, that's why I say

1195
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 6: it's a blessing because I went from you know, not

1196
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 6: even slay to even start to now we're in this

1197
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 6: point now, you know, so I think that I just

1198
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 6: take I just I just run with it. It still leaves

1199
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 6: me speeches when I think back on it, just because

1200
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 6: the impact that I talked to all of my former teammates,

1201
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 6: and you can't find a person that does not, you

1202
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, I have a bad relationship with

1203
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 6: And I think that's what I'm going to continue to do.

1204
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 6: It's a lot of familiar faces around the building that

1205
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 6: that was here with me and Houston. You know, our

1206
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 6: equipment manager Mike was there. Oh yeah, so south side

1207
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 6: to mic. You got a couple of people on the staff,

1208
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 6: on the medical staff, you know, Lexus and you know

1209
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 6: Rashad and Connor, you know these guys, and they were

1210
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 6: with me and Houston. Uh, I was asking me in Florida,

1211
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 6: So wow, man, it's it's it's actually like I said,

1212
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 6: I keep alluding to it, and I'm not afraid. It's

1213
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 6: all God, man. So I'm just gonna live in and

1214
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 6: walk in this path, man, and definitely can't wait to

1215
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 6: get this thing going.

1216
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 4: Man.

1217
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: Y'all took a spin at the Vikings Museum, right, man, I.

1218
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 6: Ain't tell me about that, man, I think is crazy.

1219
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 6: And then John Reynold was over there, so I remember

1220
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 6: him at the Comebine, so uh, you know him. Able

1221
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 6: to to see him again. It comes full circle. But man,

1222
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 6: this the story of the guys that have come here.

1223
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 6: It makes you want to be at your best. It

1224
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 6: makes you want to have that winning energy because you

1225
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 6: see so many graces like why not, you know, give

1226
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 6: them something to look forward to when they're sitting at

1227
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 6: home watching these games and cheering us on, you know,

1228
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 6: or whenever they're in the facility. I just look back

1229
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 6: on that because it's always bigger than us. You know,

1230
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 6: we only we only can control the things on the field.

1231
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 6: But obviously the things that you can play for, you

1232
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 6: can definitely take that to another level. So understanding who

1233
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 6: you're doing it for. It's a great organization, it's a

1234
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 6: great city. It's a great time to be in Minnesota.

1235
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 6: I think that everything is going to be really really good.

1236
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, did you have you played in USBA tea?

1237
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: I have never played here before. That's your first game.

1238
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 4: My first in the NFL was against the Vikings.

1239
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 6: First game the NFL, we played them at home and

1240
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 6: that was during the COVID year. Man, that was that

1241
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 6: was a stranger, super strands, no fans or anything. So yeah,

1242
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 6: what you're seeing is what you get, you know. So

1243
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 6: but yet to actually be here, man, I cannot wait,

1244
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 6: when I tell you, I cannot wait to get in

1245
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 6: that stadium in front of those fans. And there's a

1246
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 6: lot of chance, man, I man, trust me. I just

1247
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 6: love I think I just love football, and I think

1248
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 6: that's the main thing where anytime we get around that

1249
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 6: football environment and people love football and want to see

1250
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 6: you do good man, why wouldn't you want to be

1251
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 6: at your best?

1252
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: You're in the right place.

1253
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 4: And that's Jonathan Grenard. Yeah, the newest member. Yes, sir, Yes, sir,

1254
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 4: The Minnesota Vikings Department.

1255
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: First and foremost so lastly, congratulations, second contract, life changing.

1256
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 4: Amen.

1257
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 6: You see that baby girl, that man, she's she's she's good,

1258
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 6: and I think that was that was the main thing.

1259
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 6: Her and my fiance man, Look, make sure they're taken

1260
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 6: care of. I'll figure the rest of it out and

1261
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 6: I'll be and and at that point I could just

1262
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 6: play ball. And that's the best city. I mean, the

1263
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 6: city and nothing to do but just play football, and

1264
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 6: that's what I love. So I can't wait for it,

1265
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 6: sure so much. Thank you for having men. Can't wait

1266
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 6: to do it.

1267
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 3: He would be a good culture fit for sure, and

1268
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to seeing what that looks like come

1269
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: this fall. I know, Ran you talked about OTAs mini

1270
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 3: camp and so on and so forth. But we still

1271
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 3: got a few weeks until the draft and there's still

1272
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: going to be a couple of moves made so so quickly.

1273
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: Any positions of concern or any positions that you think

1274
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: the Vikings will address before the draft.

1275
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 4: I was thinking cornerback. But when you look at this market,

1276
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 4: is how much money are you willing to spend on

1277
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: some of the guys out there? Because there's a lot

1278
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 4: of guys out there, but.

1279
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 5: How much money you want to spend when you think

1280
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 5: about the draft, even like I looked at the kid

1281
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 5: from Penn Stage from Detroit, Kaylin King, like that, that's

1282
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 5: a kid that I think could come in and be

1283
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 5: a you know, a second third round pick potentially and

1284
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 5: play like he reminds me of a Caleb Evans athletically,

1285
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 5: but you know he comes from more of a hard nose.

1286
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 5: They think about Joey Porter junior with Penn State, it

1287
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 5: took him what two weeks to get figured out with

1288
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 5: the Steelers and then he was fine after that. Like

1289
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 5: that's that's what James Franklin does over there. And so

1290
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 5: there's certain schools you look at certain players, like Alabama,

1291
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 5: if you can get one of their corners later, I

1292
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 5: would do it because it seems like they have figured

1293
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 5: it out. Traymon Diggs, you know, so on and so forth. Washington,

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Speaker 5: I'd be worried about their receivers. I wouldn't go there,

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Speaker 5: but their corners they were pretty good. And the only

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Speaker 5: thing the only reason I say that is just because

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Speaker 5: like Washington reminds me of Oregon, you know, like Oregon's

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Speaker 5: receivers never really did anything.

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Speaker 4: Same thing with Washington.

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Speaker 5: I feel like it was more just we passed past past,

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Speaker 5: whereas you watch Marvin Harrison Junior, it was just because

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Speaker 5: he's an absolute beast. You know, there's a difference in

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Speaker 5: route running with Marvin Harrison Junior and the rest of

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Speaker 5: the crowd.

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Speaker 4: So that's one.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, if there's anything, I would say cornerback if

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Speaker 5: you can find one that works, because I know some

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Speaker 5: guys are getting cut now, I know some guys are

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Speaker 5: getting told they're gonna be released. There's a lot of

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Speaker 5: that out there, so it's funny even like you know,

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Speaker 5: somebody was asking me, like, do you think they would

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Speaker 5: get old Odell Beckham because he's gonna be released June first.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know about that one. I don't

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Speaker 5: know if he fits what Kevin o'conna wants. But you

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Speaker 5: never know.

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Speaker 4: You never know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And one of the reason I can say cornerback

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Speaker 5: is because you have Byron Murphy and then the Caleb

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Speaker 5: Evans was up and down all season, so you don't

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Speaker 5: really know you I'm coming back, But concussions to me

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Speaker 5: have nothing to do anything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you need guys, you need extra guys back there.

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Speaker 5: If not a starter, but you have black men, I

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Speaker 5: know that, but there was a lot I know Flores

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Speaker 5: had a lot of frustration. I'll say you could tell

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Speaker 3: Young guys making plays and being thrust thrust into the

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Speaker 3: moment early. I mean it comes with some growing pains,

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Speaker 3: but I'm sure having a guy like Jonathan Garnard and

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Speaker 3: some elite pass rushers will help our young secondary and

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Speaker 3: wherever the Vikings plan to go this all season. But

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