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Speaker 1: Mailbag episode.

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Speaker 2: so far about the twenty twenty five met season trade deadline.

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Speaker 2: We've picked some of our favorites and we're gonna go

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Speaker 2: There's a banger we're starting off here with. We talked

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Speaker 2: about it in the last episode. This one comes from

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Speaker 2: Notorious Tony. He says we can use an upgrade. Would

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Speaker 2: you make this trade and if so, who would you

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Speaker 2: trade for him? And he gave us a screenshot of

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Speaker 2: Jaren Duran I mentioned in the last episode. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: would trade for Jared Duran. I think he would be

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Speaker 2: a great fit for this team. There's a weird kind

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Speaker 2: of theory, or I should say narrative that he can't

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Speaker 2: play center field defensively, but last year he was fantastic

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Speaker 2: defensively in centerfield in Fenway, which was an awkward center

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Speaker 2: field to play with the Green Monster and that deep

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Speaker 2: center field. I would give up a lot for Jared Duran,

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Speaker 2: who's in his prime right now, who's cheap, and it

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Speaker 2: feels a little bit like a bylow because he's not

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Speaker 2: playing his best baseball right now.

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Speaker 3: The counterpoint is that before last year, he has never

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Speaker 3: played the good center field. So it's kind of like,

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Speaker 3: do you want to believe the one year of data

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Speaker 3: four years of data? Do you believe that the player

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Speaker 3: he was last year alone is the one that you

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Speaker 3: think you're getting, Because I think that is the huge

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Speaker 3: caveat with Jaron Duran's trade value because he's not a

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Speaker 3: center fielder. I think that he's being a little bit

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Speaker 3: overrated in terms of me trade value, like in the

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Speaker 3: public sphere, if he can play a center field, I

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Speaker 3: think he's being underrated. So I think that comes down

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Speaker 3: to whatever whatever the beholder feels about that. I think

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Speaker 3: that is a very different thing. And we did say

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Speaker 3: on our on our members only live stream, because someone

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Speaker 3: asks us about trade for Jared Duran that we'd becomes

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Speaker 3: removing a prospect like Brandon Sprout and possibly even a

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Speaker 3: that is if we believe internally he's a center fielder.

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Speaker 3: So I am curious about someone like David Stearns whose

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Speaker 3: values defense so heavily, probably more than some other executives

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Speaker 3: around the league, if he feels that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The one also awesome thing about Jared Duran that would

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Speaker 2: help out to left handed, he can be a great

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Speaker 2: platoon at the absolute worst with a guy like Tyrone Taylor,

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Speaker 2: So he could still be on this team still mash left,

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Speaker 2: He's still play great defense out there in center field.

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Speaker 2: He also just gives the ability to actually have another

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Speaker 2: real outfielder on this roster, where right now we're playing

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Speaker 2: Sorry Martee out there at times, We've had to play

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Speaker 1: At times.

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Speaker 2: He allows to give a guy like Wan Soda or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, more athleticism is good.

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Speaker 3: And as we talked about also in that live stream,

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Speaker 3: Durant has three more years of team control. He is

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Speaker 3: that is also where the bulk of his value comes from.

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Speaker 3: You have someone who's probably a plus plus at the bat,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm totally in on him. I would give up

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Speaker 2: move on to the next question, James, which one you

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Speaker 3: I think next, let's just stick with trade deadline because

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Speaker 1: So we did both.

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Speaker 3: Just say, if Jaron Durant is available, we would go

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Speaker 3: after him. Jeff Passion without his first trade deadline prediction

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Speaker 3: at the same time. He thinks that the best fit

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Speaker 3: on the market for the Mets is Cedric Mullins, which

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Speaker 3: We've been talking about Jared Duran. Now, if there's a

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Speaker 2: Yes, centerfield would be great. I'm in on Cedric Mullins too,

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Speaker 2: Searns trades for a frontline starter, I won't believe it

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Speaker 2: until I see it. And this is nothing against what

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Speaker 2: David Surns has done right now, but just historically, and

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Speaker 3: No, And we had another question here from our girl Bella.

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Speaker 3: And I think that is the whole crux of David Stearns,

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons that we talked about.

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Speaker 4: Know, fix that problem.

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Speaker 3: But while like something a lot of people are giving

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Speaker 3: It kind of makes other teams probably feel like they're

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Speaker 3: we just got Griffin Canning and last year Luis Evrino,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is definitely more difficult now to or I

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Speaker 2: And I do think that hopefully the rest of the

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Speaker 2: But if that guy goes down, which is possible more

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Speaker 2: The City Field is ten minutes away. Murphy's Bar in Astoria.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not a bad move at all, all right, Next

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Speaker 2: question here from David V. He says doesn't make sense

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Speaker 2: bunch of good hitters right now. Jacob Briemer's having a

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Speaker 2: fantastic gear. He's making it on the borderline of top

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Speaker 2: one hundred prospects the list right now, which are kind

436
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Speaker 2: of crazy. The Mets hitting is definitely getting better, but

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Speaker 2: it's hard to tell. Like you can look at pitch data.

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Speaker 2: You can look at spin rates, you can look at movement,

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Speaker 2: you can look at release points. There's not you can

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Speaker 2: look at strikeout rate and walk Like with baseball and

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Speaker 2: hitting especially, it's like exsit vilos are kind of the

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Speaker 2: only thing we have and we can only compare yeah,

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Speaker 2: an ops, but even then, like at the minor leagues,

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Speaker 2: it could be a little bit iffy, as we know,

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Speaker 2: So it's like we can only compare the exit vilos

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Speaker 2: to what they previously were, and there's just not that

447
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Speaker 2: much data for these guys, because most of the leagues

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Speaker 2: don't even have exit Villo readily available.

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Speaker 3: No, probably the some of the leagues's the most development

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Speaker 3: being like Hi A and Doublelay are the ones we

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Speaker 3: actually don't have this data, but also something to look

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Speaker 3: at as we get through this year. Now, well, I'm

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Speaker 3: pretty sure Andy Green just oversees everything my wrong about that.

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Speaker 2: I think he is like the I don't want to

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Speaker 2: call him the farm director because I think it's a

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Speaker 2: better term, but he is, I believe, like a big

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Speaker 2: player development guy overall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I also Rob is like never wrong about anything he

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Speaker 3: saw on the money with every single time yet like

461
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Speaker 3: personnel tip but the as soho, I tend to believe him.

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Speaker 1: But Rob knows things about us that I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, literally everything everything on the top talking to me

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Speaker 3: says something. I'm like, wow, that's a great point, dude.

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Speaker 3: But I think that the one thing to look at

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Speaker 3: would be just individual players taking massive steps up. So

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Speaker 3: I think like if Ronny Marisio winds up going on

468
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Speaker 3: a tear, if Ronny Marisio is able to lift the

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Speaker 3: ball to the major league level, we'd be like, Bam,

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Speaker 3: that's a huge win for Mets player development. If Brett

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Speaker 3: Baty continues to stay hot and like runs out this

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Speaker 3: season as like a three war player, that's like win

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Speaker 3: right there, you said, Rhymer, you know, he who's biased

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Speaker 3: the way he's grown over the last year plus being

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Speaker 3: someone who's not exactly everything that meets the eye, but

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Speaker 3: now being a fringe top hundred prospects.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, someone like that.

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Speaker 3: Like of course, if you see Carson Benj's pull, Rach

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Speaker 3: go up, Like those are things we can hang our

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Speaker 3: hats on for Mets hitting development rather than like it's

481
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Speaker 3: also I don't think it'll ever get to the spot

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Speaker 3: because I think the pitching lab is now like has

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Speaker 3: a has like a life of its own. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: it's like kind of become this crazy thing. Like you

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Speaker 3: told me before we started on here that there was

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Speaker 3: a headline about Joanatanu and that front page of MLB

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Speaker 3: dot com. Like probably a little bit longer till we

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Speaker 3: get to that spot, but I do think it is

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Speaker 3: it's it's never gonna catch up to that because of

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Speaker 3: what it's kind of become in baseball culture.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna flip the vibe here and do more of

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Speaker 2: a fun question shout out to Bruce Bruce by Jesse.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I hope that's said correctly. Because favorite pizza spot in

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Speaker 2: New York City. I have to tap bow out of

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Speaker 2: this one because I am dairy free, so I only

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Speaker 2: can eat pizza that has dairy free cheese. Right now,

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Speaker 2: I will say, shout out Ballucci in Astoria. They make

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Speaker 2: a great vegan pizza vegan cheese only I still do

500
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Speaker 2: like regular everything else and the crust is fantastic in that.

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Speaker 2: And then what is the place in Williamsburg that industry no,

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Speaker 2: but Vinnie's Vinnie's. Vinnie's also has a great because I

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Speaker 2: can get just a singular slice of pizza and it

504
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Speaker 2: feels like I'm eating regular pizza. So any dairy free

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Speaker 2: people out there, Vinni's and Bullucci are my two favorite

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been gluing free for a few years, but

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely a huge pizza guy otherwise than it was before,

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Speaker 3: and every six months or so, I just give myself

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Speaker 3: horrible stomach pains to eat pizzas it's my favorite thing

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Speaker 3: in the world.

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Speaker 1: So while I'll.

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Speaker 3: Voucher this one and be saying industry, there's the original

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Speaker 3: location in South Williamsburg. And then also there's a new

515
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Speaker 3: one in Manhattan's open a few days a week. I

516
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Speaker 3: think that's the best individual slice of pizza probably on earth.

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Speaker 3: If you want a regular slice, like that's the one

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Speaker 3: Johnson Bleeker streets, the classic like New York style, sometimes

519
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Speaker 3: a long line on the weekends with the Moose Fast

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Speaker 3: you get pictures of Perni. You have a great time

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Speaker 3: in there. I haven't had any of the new age ones,

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Speaker 3: like I know, like Cello's and like Sarairi. That's like

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Speaker 3: the big one that I think Portnod gave a crazy

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Speaker 3: rating to, But those are the ones I would put

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Speaker 3: my stamp on. Also, if you want to get a

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Speaker 3: little bit off the beaten paths, Pomoni Gardens.

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Speaker 4: I grew up.

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Speaker 1: That grew up the.

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Speaker 3: First couple of years of my life. I lived next

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Speaker 3: to there. My family went there forever. That plays some

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Speaker 3: down in Gravesend, benson Hurst area. Like that's a wild

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Speaker 3: size of pizza. It's such a serious slights of pizza.

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Speaker 3: They about ten years ago now someone got shot in

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Speaker 3: the backyard of the pizza recipe mafia related killing in

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Speaker 3: in South Brooklyn because of a pizza sauce recipe.

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Speaker 1: Tell you no, it's good. Hey.

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Speaker 6: If you want to keep the conversation going after a

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Speaker 6: show that you're listening to on the FT network, then

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Speaker 6: head to chat. Bcc AJ's on there.

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Speaker 5: I'm on there right now, typing away. I'll be there.

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Speaker 5: We'll be there all the time, talking about what topics

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Speaker 5: people want to discuss, what we want, what everyone wants

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Speaker 5: to hear us talk about on foul Territory.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if you have a question, we can answer it

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Speaker 6: on FT or on an FT team show on the network.

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Speaker 6: So if you want to come crash our group chat,

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Speaker 6: it's as easy as sending a text. Head to foul

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Speaker 6: the FT fam.

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Speaker 2: All right, switching the gears back to baseball here shout

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Speaker 2: out Sean our boy helping us out on the discord.

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Speaker 2: If you want to join the Mets up discord link

553
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Speaker 2: in the description go join up there. He asks us,

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Speaker 2: of all current players on the roster, who is most

555
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Speaker 2: likely not to be on the team after the trade deadline?

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Speaker 1: I like this one. Who are we thinking?

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Speaker 3: We have to think it's because we have to consider

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Speaker 3: also not It's not part of the trade deadline, but

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Speaker 3: the assumption that we're getting Manaiah Mons's back, it has

560
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Speaker 3: to be one of the starting pitchers. So I think

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Speaker 3: at this point, while he still this year has pitched

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Speaker 3: objectively well despite the Mets fans piling on him, it

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Speaker 3: probably just has to be Tyler and McGill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is probably something that sucks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ex definitely for him because the best he's ever

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Speaker 3: pitched balls are just not being better than the other

567
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Speaker 3: guys in this rotation, probably Brandon Waddell probably not even

568
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Speaker 3: gonna be on the team this time next week, or

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Speaker 3: Jose Castillo. I have to lean on for guys like that.

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Speaker 3: But otherwise, I mean, I mean what Akuna, Yeah, could

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Speaker 3: be Acunya. We're trying desperately to keep that option on him,

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Speaker 3: but it'd be Jared Young too, because if mean Jesse

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Speaker 3: Winker is coming back probably like two or three weeks now,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he starts the cop Yeah, those are cop

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Speaker 3: by the answers, But like in terms of who we

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Speaker 3: can add in terms of trade, Like, I mean, does

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Speaker 3: now fielder come off this roster if we traded for

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Speaker 3: a center fielder, ye.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's either gonna be oh it's probably Starlar,

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Speaker 2: but that it's probably Starling Marte.

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Speaker 1: Probably, but then how do you get rid of him

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Speaker 1: in that money?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess if it's only two more months

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Speaker 3: of Starling Marte, it's not really that much because it's

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Speaker 3: not like he's other contract next year.

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Speaker 2: And then it's probably Luis an Hilacuna unless Ronnie Marie.

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Speaker 2: But Ronnie Marisco also has to play well in this

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Speaker 2: time too.

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Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 3: This is there's right now going to be an active

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Speaker 3: competition between Ronny Mariso and Louis and Helicunya, which is

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Speaker 3: like hil ariious because one's like a foot taller in

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Speaker 3: the other one. But that's going to be that's going

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Speaker 3: to be the competition to watch over the next few

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Speaker 3: weeks as the team gets healthy and as a trade

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Speaker 3: deadline nears.

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Speaker 1: Funny thing just has nothing to do with baseball.

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Speaker 2: Ronnie Maurisio lists at six foot four, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty six pounds on the Mets website. Luis on Helicunia

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Speaker 2: five eight one eighty one. I mean, that's just not

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Speaker 2: physically possible.

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Speaker 1: Year.

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Speaker 3: I have that picture saved my draft to fire it

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Speaker 3: off one day, be like yep, one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: pound Ronni Mariicio.

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Speaker 1: There is Mancuni is one eighty one. That feels not

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Speaker 1: even right. No, he can't be a pound over one

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Speaker 1: fifty five. I'm being honest with him.

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Speaker 3: God, there's absolutely no way. Let's see another one.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 3: We have a nice three part of it from our

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Speaker 3: fan Ben Steinberg. Here, First, how many Mets make the

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Speaker 3: All Star Team?

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Speaker 1: Two?

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Speaker 3: Who will be the players the twenty six players on

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Speaker 3: the roster by August first?

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Speaker 1: And three? Do we still keep up with?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: And then how many Mets make the All Star Team?

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Speaker 2: All Right, So I'm gonna let's let's talk out loud

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Speaker 2: about this.

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Speaker 1: Lindor. You guys, the voting is out. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the voting is out. Go vote vote. You have five

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Speaker 1: votes every day. It will take you five seconds, I

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Speaker 1: promise you. Lindor has to make the All Star Team

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Speaker 1: this year. Enough of this nonsense.

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Speaker 2: So, Lindor, Pete, I think are guarantees locks on this

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Speaker 2: All Star team right now. I think Sodo's still gonna

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Speaker 2: make it. I really do. I think Sodo will be

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Speaker 2: on the All Star Team. Louise Torenz is this where

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Speaker 2: we started in the right end? Vote for Louise Torenz movement.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mark it brain blast today that we, as Mets fans,

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Speaker 3: we should be pushing for Louis Terrenz to make the

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Speaker 3: All Star Team. I don't think enough people in the

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Speaker 3: lexicon of National Baseball are focusing and paying attention to

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Speaker 3: what Louise Tornz has done this year. The guy has

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Speaker 3: a one to twenty WRC plus one of the best

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Speaker 3: hard hit rates in the league, not just for a catcher,

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Speaker 3: but for any player. He is probably, pound for pound

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Speaker 3: right now, the best defensive catcher in baseball. He was

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Speaker 3: at a point two weeks ago. I'm checking right now

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Speaker 3: if he's still at this point where he has caught

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Speaker 3: more base stealers and have been successful against him. Okay,

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Speaker 3: now now it's ten to seven, so I have seventeen

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Speaker 3: would be based stealers seven of them, which is one

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Speaker 3: of the highest rates in all of Major League Baseball. Offense, defense,

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Speaker 3: pitch receiving. He got he got a feature article writ

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Speaker 3: about him on Fangrass on Wednesday from Ben Clemens, a

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Speaker 3: great writer.

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Speaker 4: Everyone check out Ben's article.

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Speaker 3: But we have to be paying attention to what Louise

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Speaker 3: Frenz has done this year, And in terms of National

653
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: League catchers, who's more special in him right now?

654
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Carson Kelly is having a pretty good year.

655
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: There are guys who deserve it a little bit more

656
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 2: than him right now.

657
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: Got deserve it.

658
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: But even as a reserve, you're telling me it's not

659
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: one of the three best catches national league so far.

660
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 2: Well, this is why we got to write him in.

661
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: He is not on the ballot. It's Francisco Alvarez and said,

662
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 2: I understand why Alvarez is supposed to be the catcher

663
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: of this team. Right now, Louis Frens is the better catcher,

664
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 2: and I think, along with showing some love for our boy,

665
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: Luis Torrenz best backup catcher in Major League Baseball's let's

666
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: just see if we can get crazy and get him

667
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: some traction on write and votes. I think that would

668
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 2: be a really fun storyline. So again, if at worst

669
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: you vote for Francisco Lindor, you vote for pe, vote

670
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: for Soto, you vote for Louise Torenz, right the write

671
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: him in so we can try and get him a

672
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 2: little bit attraction.

673
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: I'd love to see when they do the like updated ballots.

674
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 2: His name fourth, Like what he's a right in and

675
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: I won't retract what I said because I mean, of course,

676
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: like Will Smith and yeah, and even Ivan Herrera.

677
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 4: Are having ridiculous seasons.

678
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: But Luis France has changed this Mets team so much

679
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: since he walked out. He says, he walked down the

680
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: field basically exactly year ago, because that were the first

681
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: week of June. That's basically when they sign him, right

682
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 3: before the London trip. It's special what he's doing, and

683
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 3: that's gonna be us being like, we're gonna pound that drump.

684
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: But after him, I think at least Edwin and Breed

685
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 3: Garrett that put themselves in heavy consideration as well. And

686
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: Clay Holmes, you gotta say Clay Holmes and Code.

687
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and what about David Peterson.

688
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's a world where this Mets team

689
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: gets five All Stars on it, yes, and then possibly

690
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: pushes up to six or seven similar twenty twenty two.

691
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: And I don't think that's super out of the bounds, especially

692
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 3: when you consider that we have the best record in

693
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 3: the National League. We should be very well represented at

694
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: that game if we have the best record, And again,

695
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: there's a lot of times on the All Star Game.

696
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 4: We've got about six ish weeks now, yeah.

697
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: A ton, but we've really played ourselves in position to

698
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: put a lot of players in this game.

699
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

700
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: No, I think the Mets could have a bunch for sure.

701
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: And then who will be the twenty six players on

702
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: the roster on August first. I mean we kind of

703
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: went through that a little bit. It's gonna be a

704
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: lot of the same guys, and then maybe a new

705
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: center fielder, probably a couple of random relievers that we

706
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: haven't yet thought of yet. Because someone's gonna get hurt.

707
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: It's just it's gonna happen. The Mets are gonna need

708
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: more relievers. If they get a big starting pitcher, who

709
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: are you gonna play your flag and say the guy

710
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: that is that they go out.

711
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 3: And get Chris Sale No, I'm kidding. I was like, what, No, No,

712
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: absolutely not. I just I kind of agree with you.

713
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: I just don't see them actually doing it, mostly because

714
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: none of the teams I think will be sellers really

715
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: have a big starting pitcher. The Twins, as we keep saying,

716
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 3: are probably too good to sell. And Pablope's just got hurt.

717
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: It's a lot.

718
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,239
Speaker 1: Did he really yes? Last night?

719
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: He's going on the aisle of the last train. That's

720
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 3: kind of that was the big one everyone was talking about.

721
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: I mean, could the Rangers sell, Probably not. The Angels

722
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: don't have anybody, The Mariners are not going to sell.

723
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 3: Paul s Keans isn't going anywhere, of course. I mean

724
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: could the Brewers maybe Freddy Peralta actually is the guy.

725
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: They're playing good baseball right now, so surely they're not

726
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: going to get rid of him just yet, and they're

727
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: playing relatively good baseball. But we also know that's an

728
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: organization with the similar people in charge. They have been

729
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: willing to sell when they're in playoff positioning, and right

730
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: now they're up in the wildcard race by a half

731
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: a game, but they also haven't played. I mean, I

732
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: guess it's Zach Gallen too, but he's just so bad.

733
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: I think it's more.

734
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 4: Likely that there's a trade for Sandy than Zach Gallen.

735
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: I think by a lot. Whoa interesting okay for the

736
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: Mets not in the league, the Mets.

737
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think that that's probably those are

738
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: the two guys, Zach Gallen Sandy Alcatra.

739
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: But I'm not I'm just not sure if we go

740
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 2: down that path. I just yeah, and there's just not

741
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: many guys available.

742
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: Truth, Like the Red Sox don't have anybody. The Orioles

743
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: definitely don't have a front line start as a trade

744
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 3: un unless they retrade Zach Eflin just like they did

745
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 3: last year. Like that, I guess that was possible. The

746
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: Royals are going to go down kicking and screaming. They're

747
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: not going to sell, and they're also still over five hundred.

748
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: The Athletics definitely don't have a frontline pitcher to sell.

749
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: The Angels don't. I mean the rets the Rangers and

750
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: dracop de Grams and no trade clause, like there really

751
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: isn't an obvious starting to go with.

752
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: No and Kevin Gosman.

753
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: The Blue Jays are about five hundred right now, so

754
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: they're gonna believe that they're in it.

755
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: That's still the sneaky one because they might realize, like, guys,

756
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: we suck, like we.

757
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: Just still never realize that.

758
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: But if they go on a losing streak, like I

759
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: understand that right now, I think they do. Technically, I

760
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 3: think they're a game and a half back of the Wildcard.

761
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: For context about the delusion of the Blue Jays, they

762
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: traded and took on Miles Straw's contract to get more

763
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: international pool money because they thought they had a shot

764
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: at rope Kasaki. That organization is full of dumb idiots.

765
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: I mean kind of.

766
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the point, by some point, you have to

767
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 2: accept where you are and who you are and be like,

768
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: we have to stop doing this. The Rockies have never

769
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: done that, So the Rockies are especially stupid. We don't

770
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: even put the Rocky stupid in lexicon of the rest

771
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: of the teams here in Major League Baseball.

772
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 4: But that's just I just can't see that hat.

773
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: I don't know how many times they keep banging their

774
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 3: head against the wall to miss the playoffs or get

775
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 3: blown away in the wildcard round hundreds.

776
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do it until the team formiliar year. Yeah,

777
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: every single year. I think that's it, all right, Maybe

778
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: you're right about that, Maybe I'm wrong.

779
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: All right, what else? Give me another one here? I

780
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: think that was basically it. There was only one other

781
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: one that I had a bookmarked from. George love these Mets.

782
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: George is great in the Mets community on Twitter. We're

783
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 3: going to have too many pitchers soon. I think our

784
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: hand may be forced to move one of them before July.

785
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: Who specifically ends up getting moved and is it for

786
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: prospects or a bat or is the bullpen piece that moves.

787
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: I'll see.

788
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: I'll have to.

789
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: Throw cold water in this right away. I love you, George,

790
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: but you just don't trade major league pitchers if you're

791
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: a team that's winning, like you can literally never ever,

792
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: ever ever have enough depth. And we could just it

793
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 3: sucks for him. We could just store Tyler McGill and Syracuse.

794
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: We could just send them back there. He can be

795
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 3: one of like the sixty best starting pitchers in Major

796
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: League Baseball, and we could be like, we will break

797
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: last in case of emergency again. And you know what

798
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: I know is going to happen. We're going to break

799
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: that glass. Tyler McGill will be pitching big games in

800
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: August for the Mets again. I just that's if you're

801
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: a team that's expecting to win, you do not trade

802
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 3: from a strength like that.

803
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: No, you definitely don't. Actually got a hand on one

804
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: to end it here with. This one comes from Carl Bridges.

805
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: He says baseball has some of the highest ratings it's

806
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: ever had. Even college baseball is more popular than ever,

807
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: how would you guys keep that trending upwards and making

808
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: baseball more popular both in and out of America. Do

809
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: teams like the Rockies and White Sox hurt the growth

810
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: of growth of baseball? I'm gonna have a crazy hot

811
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: take about the Rockies and White Sox.

812
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: You're right for this one, yep.

813
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: I think because they're so putridly bad, it is still

814
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: putting spotlight on baseball.

815
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: Those exact same take.

816
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: Those teams know, like, no one's watching those games, nobody's

817
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: going to those games. But the idea that there is

818
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: some of the worst teams to ever play the game.

819
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: I mean, there's people that I'm loosely friends with that

820
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: will mention me like how bad actually are the Rockies.

821
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm like saying, you want to talk about baseball and

822
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: specifically the Rockies will be what the fuck's going on?

823
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: Literally?

824
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: But I do think exactly you're saying is right, because

825
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: those are the tweets that go crazy. Because the New

826
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 3: Tweather algorim rewards negativity. So if you're shitting on a

827
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: team like this, like the Rockies literally are objectively the

828
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: worst team ever, have.

829
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 4: To shout out that.

830
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: Carlins to speak the miles after I get them Modins

831
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: lover the credit, but I gotsh how the Jake Min's

832
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: are like a one more time where if you look

833
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: inward at that organization, like they are doing things so

834
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: backwards and so badly and they don't even realize how

835
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: bad and dumb they are, which is the saddest thing.

836
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: And I said last episode, and we're about to play them,

837
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: so I might eat my words. I'll say it again.

838
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: They're being bad on accident. We've had so many franchise

839
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: and professional sports over the last few years be bad

840
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: on purpose and it has helped them become better in

841
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: the long run.

842
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: White Sox bad on purpose. Yes, why Marlin's bad on purpose?

843
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: The Rockies are bad by accident. They think they have

844
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: a chance to be good and they continue to be horrible.

845
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: But that's a good story, that's a great storyline. This

846
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: is the worst team ever banged, definitive statement, huge headline,

847
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: Awesome for baseball. But I do think that the other

848
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: part of the question we're not focusing on as much.

849
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: Baseball is growing in a pretty awesome way. I do

850
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: think that this crop of baseball stars that we have,

851
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: pound for pound, is as talented as any group of

852
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: stars this game has ever seen. The things that Aaron

853
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: Judge and Shoheo Tani and Ronald de coune Er Fernando's

854
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 2: hatis are doing day after day is ridiculous, and the

855
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 2: young players are stupid, and Stackas has helped this so

856
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: much to put qualifications and numbers on things guys are doing,

857
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: and it's just like it's fun. I think that something

858
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: big happening right now in baseball media where the rights

859
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: are going to be leaving ESPN and right now NBC,

860
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: my guys are up for it.

861
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: And then same with Apple TV. I think those are

862
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: two leaders in the clubhouse. I think that could change

863
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: a lot of what happens the next era at baseball.

864
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: But I do think that we're in a spot where

865
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: baseball is growing and we've seen Eurova the baseball ratings

866
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 3: are up, and I think that's awesome.

867
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also think social media is a huge part

868
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: of it. Baseball has a unique advantage where from the

869
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: end of June till the beginning of August, like they

870
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: are the only sport you're not talking about anything else.

871
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: You can talk about football OTAs in training camp, but

872
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: like who fuck cares ninety nine percent people who watch

873
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: football don't give a shit about that stuff. What people

874
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: do like home runs, which are being hit a lot

875
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: of in baseball, fast pitch is being thrown, which is

876
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: just happening at a higher rate than they ever have.

877
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: And I do think while Major League Baseball has gotten

878
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: a lot of flak in the past about how they

879
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: marketed their stars and how the game had been marketing,

880
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: I think the fact that there's YouTubers. I think the

881
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: fact that there's people on TikTok, I think there's fact

882
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: the fact that there's accounts on Twitter like social media

883
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: has one undoubtedly helped Major League Baseball grow. And I

884
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: think they would agree on that same stance and shout

885
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: out foolish baseball Friends of the program.

886
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: He has such a great video last year about the

887
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 3: next stage of baseball media, how baseball is tailor made

888
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: for the it's by nine the sixteen point nine by

889
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 3: vertical videos, just because so much of baseball happens in

890
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 3: such a small sliver the pitcher and the batter, like

891
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 3: that is the game. So it's it's uniquely in a

892
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 3: great spot to like attack the next medium to be redundant,

893
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: the medium of media but I think that's kind of

894
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: a beautiful thing about this.

895
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and more and more contents being made. It's crazy.

896
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 3: Things like prospects are so much fun, Like that conception

897
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: is cool. Pall Skiings is sick. Like one hundred miles

898
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: an hour is cool, Like that's all awesome.

899
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: These small market guys like Paul Skins get allowed to

900
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: be stars through social media, through the marketing that's going on.

901
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: I think baseball is actually starting to figure it out,

902
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: which is really refreshing considering when I started doing this

903
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: stuff like full time, like six years ago, it was very,

904
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 2: very different than where it's at now.

905
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a lot of people that we know

906
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: who work in these offices and these companies that help

907
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 3: that stuff. And it's a lot of people who are

908
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: like from our generation, kind of these older millennials. We

909
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: are now getting these power positions that have at least

910
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: they didn't grow up with the Internet, but they had

911
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: the teenagers, and we're able to experience it and kind

912
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 3: of come of age with the first era of baseball

913
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 3: Twitter in the baseball Internet and that like twenty fifteen,

914
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen range, which is kind of fun.

915
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 4: But I do want to get one more.

916
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: What I was gonna tip, I was gonna do one

917
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 2: tip the Captor rock Man for it. Pitchclocks some major success,

918
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: and I think that has a huge thing to do

919
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: with it as well. It is too but it is

920
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: funny that how much the pitch clock has given to

921
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: baseball on television but taken away from baseball in the ballpark. Yes, definitely,

922
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: but that's also what they obviously care about more is

923
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: baseball on television relatives to baseball in the ballpark and

924
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: where the money is at.

925
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

926
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: But the one thing that that also is Major League

927
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: Baseball's main issue is that we still have seventy percent

928
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: of the league not trying to win because they know

929
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: that all their revenue comes from these TV deals. They

930
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: don't really care who the fuck shows up to their games.

931
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: They're willing to forego gate prices to get the revenue

932
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 3: share that they get from all the real teams.

933
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 4: We are spending money and trying to.

934
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: Win, all right, give me the one last question here

935
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: to wrap this one up.

936
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: Last question from a man, Brandon Brandon Ditchik. I have

937
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: two questions. Who has been the biggest surprise to just

938
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 3: bring it ended with the Mets. Who's been the biggest

939
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 3: surprise this year and who's been the biggest disappointment. My

940
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: biggest surprise is Griffin Canning. And my biggest disappointment is

941
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 3: Mark Fanto's second question, bonus, who's the most random Mester?

942
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: Is you have?

943
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: Brandon has the Jeff frankcore and it not Helpagan.

944
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: Oh I like both of those. It means the French.

945
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 2: She had some bad takes earlier this year, but that's

946
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: he had a little moment in the Mets world.

947
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: And on Angel Pagan on Hell? Pegane, what's the correct way?

948
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: Is it on Hell? It's definitely on Hell.

949
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: He's a unbelievably underrated player in the grand scheme of

950
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 2: Mets history. He had a great few seasons roaming around

951
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: center field for the Mets. My weirdest, most random jersey,

952
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: I think it's either gotta be Jason Vargas or Trevor May.

953
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: Those are probably the two weirdest ones. I think it's

954
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: gotta be Trevor May. I think mine's blatantly Jeremy Hefner.

955
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean that one's obvious.

956
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: Every time I show up too metscan I'm wearing the

957
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: Hefner Jersey. I get people shouting from me left and

958
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 3: right now. I've definitely not people listening to podcast, like,

959
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: is that fucking Heftter Jersey? I was like, hell yeah,

960
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: best patching coach in the league.

961
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: The only thing that would take off my wide vote

962
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: Vargas over May is like May is like a liked person.

963
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: He still exists in the media world media Jason Vargus,

964
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll ever hear from that guy again.

965
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 4: So reviled. You figure people hate him. Shout out child.

966
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: Tim Healy just started his uh, just started his new

967
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: job at the Boston Globe. But otherwise most surprising versus

968
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: most disappointing, most disappointing. It sucks, But I have to

969
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: say Francisco Alvarez like because the disappointment with him is

970
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: from a much more earnest place where I don't know.

971
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 2: Sadly, we both know what soda is gonna be fine.

972
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 2: I think that's why he's not your close.

973
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: He's not even the top fifteen most disappointing players in

974
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: this team. I'm not disappointed. Actually, he's playing relatively good

975
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 3: baseball for someone who's undergone all the changes life that

976
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: he has but it's just Valvarez like he was coming fast.

977
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 3: Two years ago, it was happening, and now it's just

978
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 3: like kind of looks like a shell of himself, like

979
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: he's not even he's not even the best catcher in

980
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 3: the roster anymore. Objectively, if you could, if you could

981
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: have told me that eighteen months ago, I would have.

982
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: I was told you to fuck yourself. But that's just

983
00:37:59,480 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: where we're at.

984
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he was he was such a rocket as

985
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: a prospect, and it.

986
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: Does stink to not only see not just stagnation, but

987
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: just straight up getting worse, Like he's not getting better,

988
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: he's playing worse than he really ever has.

989
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think for me also most surprising, just

990
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: because again I just felt that the law of averages

991
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 3: Canny would at least be passable, like trust in the Mets.

992
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: Here it's gotta be baby Bassically, it was like the

993
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 3: worst player in baseball even in April of this year,

994
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 3: and what he's done over the last three weeks has

995
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: kind of really changed the perspective on him. So I

996
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 3: have to I gotta lean with my guy there again.

997
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: I just I'm looking at the Mets roster again and

998
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: I just need to point out Wastcar Broso Bonds. Let's

999
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: at six foot, three hundred and fifty five pounds. He's

1000
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty five pounds. Are you shitting me?

1001
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: I have different from me. I have twenty pounds on

1002
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: Wastcar Braso Bon.

1003
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: There's no way he only has five on me. He

1004
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 3: might be the most surprising guy. Actually, I would look

1005
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: at this whole time, that looking dude.

1006
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: Although don't let him pitch the ninth It is a

1007
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: guaranteed home run.

1008
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens in the ninth inning, but

1009
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: it is a home run.

1010
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: Every single time people were shitting on that Max Monthly

1011
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: home run because he just grooved one like up in

1012
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: middle to him, which that's that's Max Monsey's power alley.

1013
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: But I don't hate on trying to sneak a two

1014
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 3: strike fastball past Max Monsey when we know he's like

1015
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: a seventy five percent change up guy. When the night

1016
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 3: before he saw Max Munsey and did change up, change up,

1017
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 3: change I conception.

1018
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: I did like the pitch call one, but I think

1019
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: you got to go with your best pitch.

1020
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: I think you just gotta go Leathers like that just

1021
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 3: can't be in the strikes execution problem. I think conceptually philosophically,

1022
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: I didn't hate fastball there. I hate fastball down the middle,

1023
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 3: but I didn't hate I didn't hate fastball.

1024
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 2: I will also say I think we have to say

1025
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: Mark Vento's is probably up there for the most disappointing too.

1026
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: He's been He's taken a million steps back.

1027
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pa Billion, it's like he's done. He might not.

1028
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: I don't know what's gonna happen to Mark Vantos in

1029
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 3: the next twenty four months after what we've.

1030
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: Seen so far this year. Also most surprising in a

1031
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: good way. You mentioned.

1032
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: Uh not Reed, Garrett, You've mentioned Griffin Canning. I'm still

1033
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: gonna keep on saying with Clay Holmes, how awesome he's been.

1034
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: Like we we believed in him in this podcast, didn't

1035
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: think he'd be this good.

1036
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I mean to call him to call

1037
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 3: out the All Star before the season, but he's so good.

1038
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: And uh, that's it. I think that's all we said.

1039
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: It's always wrapping up, guys, Thank you for listening. Thank

1040
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: you for watching this episode of the Mets Stuff Podcast.

1041
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: Make sure you are subscribed to the YouTube channel met

1042
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,760
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1043
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1044
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,160
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1045
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,040
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1046
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,759
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1047
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,440
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1048
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,680
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1049
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: James Chiano and I'm Draftneckmark with the c. Thank you

1050
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: guys for hanging out and we'll catch you all on

1051
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: the next episode after the Dodger series.

1052
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: Peace Out, peace out guys, Go mets