WEBVTT - Tech News: Supreme Court to Weigh In on Section 230

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland, Diamond Executive producer with I Heart Radio and

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<v Speaker 1>how the tech are you. It's time for the tech

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<v Speaker 1>news for Tuesday, October four, two thousand twenty two. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this year, I did an episode about a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the ninety nineties six Communications Decency Act called Section

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty. It's been in the news a lot over

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years, particularly in US politics. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this section says, quote no provider or user of an

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<v Speaker 1>interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or

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<v Speaker 1>speaker of any information provided by another information content provider

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<v Speaker 1>end quote. Okay. Essentially, what this section says is that, say,

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<v Speaker 1>a web platform like a social media site cannot be

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<v Speaker 1>treated as if it were the responsible party for the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that its users post to that platform. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I jumped onto a social media site to docks someone,

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<v Speaker 1>or to spread lies about someone or something, or attempt

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<v Speaker 1>to incite violence, the platform would not be held accountable

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<v Speaker 1>for my actions. My platform. I really just I mean

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<v Speaker 1>lots of stuff, not just social media sites and internet

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<v Speaker 1>service provider could be an example, an I s P.

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<v Speaker 1>I s P s give us the connections that we

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<v Speaker 1>need in order to interact online. If they were to

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<v Speaker 1>be held responsible for the stuff that people do when

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<v Speaker 1>they're online, well then the whole system would come crashing

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<v Speaker 1>down pretty quickly. If you could sue an I s

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<v Speaker 1>P because someone using that I s P posted something

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<v Speaker 1>that was harmful to you, it doesn't take long for

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<v Speaker 1>you to imagine a situation where everybody is suing everyone

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<v Speaker 1>for everything. Section to thirty allows for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>other things as well, such as protecting platforms for when

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<v Speaker 1>they remove, van or block posts that violate the platform's rules.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I were to post something on Facebook that

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<v Speaker 1>was in violation of Facebook's terms of service, Facebook could

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<v Speaker 1>totally remove my post and Facebook would not be legally

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<v Speaker 1>liable for that. I would have no case if I

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<v Speaker 1>sued the company. I mean, I could sue Facebook, but

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<v Speaker 1>they could cite Section to thirty in a court would

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<v Speaker 1>find that my lawsuit has no merit because Facebook is

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to do that. The reason I say that is

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<v Speaker 1>now the U. S. Supreme Court has agreed to hear

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<v Speaker 1>a case that involves Section to thirty, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>case that has a tragedy at the heart of it,

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<v Speaker 1>which always makes these issues more difficult to navigate because

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be respectful of the people who are

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<v Speaker 1>affected by said tragedy. So in a U. S citizen

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<v Speaker 1>named No. M. A. Gonzalez was killed in Paris during

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<v Speaker 1>an Islamic State group attack. Her family sued Google. Uh really,

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<v Speaker 1>you know YouTube's arm of Google or YouTube's arm of Alphabet,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were arguing that the company holds partial responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>for Gonzalez's death due to YouTube's recommendation algorithm. The family's

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<v Speaker 1>argument is that YouTube's algorithm promoted videos the aim to

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<v Speaker 1>push people to extremist perspectives and that as such, YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>and by extension, Alphabet should be held accountable for being

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<v Speaker 1>part of what amounts to overall recruitment strategy. The case

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<v Speaker 1>went up to the US Court of Appeals for the

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<v Speaker 1>Ninth Circuit and they found that Section to thirty provides

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<v Speaker 1>protection to YouTube against the charges. So the family has

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<v Speaker 1>then pushed the matter up to the Supreme Court, which

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<v Speaker 1>did decide to hear the case. You know, Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>is not required to hear cases. It gets submissions and

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<v Speaker 1>then decides which ones it will actually listen to. So

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<v Speaker 1>this potentially means that the Supreme Court could determine if

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<v Speaker 1>Section to thirty is constitutional or if it's unconstitutional. So

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<v Speaker 1>potentially the Court could strike down Section to thirty UH,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it does, it's not hard to imagine the

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<v Speaker 1>flurry of court cases that would originate from all sides

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<v Speaker 1>because this is section is one of those policies that

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<v Speaker 1>gets a lot of flak both from Democrats and Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>though for very different reasons. And I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons are valid or not valid, but rather that

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's coming from a different point of view as

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<v Speaker 1>to why Section two thirty UH is dangerous. Both sides

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<v Speaker 1>feel this way, but the people who created Section to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty did so knowing that without it, internet companies would

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<v Speaker 1>have no reason to even innovate or create any presence

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<v Speaker 1>on the Internet because if they could be held liable

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<v Speaker 1>for what someone else posted to that platform, then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there'd be too much risk because you can't control what

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<v Speaker 1>other people do, right, So it could change everything. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even sure what it would change into. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the Internet would just not work with Section

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<v Speaker 1>two thirty removed or at least it would be bogged

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<v Speaker 1>down by lawsuits all over the place. However, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to stress that's just one potential outcome. The Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>might find that Section to thirty needs to be more

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<v Speaker 1>tightly defined, maybe it needs to have its own limitations.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it just finds its section to thirty is perfectly cromulent.

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<v Speaker 1>And ultimately this case gets dismissed and we're back to

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<v Speaker 1>where we are already. We don't know, but I will

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<v Speaker 1>keep following up on it. In a pretty rare move,

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<v Speaker 1>the United States Federal Communications Commission has brought the hammer

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<v Speaker 1>down on some telecommunications companies. Now. This has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the anti robo call initiative that launched back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty so. The FCC required all telecommunications companies in the

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<v Speaker 1>US to comply with anti robo call proto calls called

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<v Speaker 1>stir and shaken. The largest telecommunications companies had a tighter

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<v Speaker 1>deadline to comply with these rules. They had to do

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<v Speaker 1>it within a year uh and the smaller regional company

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<v Speaker 1>these were given a little bit more time to get

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<v Speaker 1>up to speed. Well. Now, the FCC has identified seven

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<v Speaker 1>voice service carriers in the US that have failed to

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<v Speaker 1>meet the requirements of this set of protocols, and the

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<v Speaker 1>FCC Chairwoman Jessica Rosen Worseel says that those companies will

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<v Speaker 1>have two weeks to fix this or else the f

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<v Speaker 1>c C is going to exclude those voice carriers from

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<v Speaker 1>America's phone networks. Now that means is the the FCC

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna issue a ban that all other sell or

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<v Speaker 1>telecommunications providers are going to have to follow, where they

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<v Speaker 1>will have to block any call originating from within those

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<v Speaker 1>seven networks. So if you are a customer of any

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<v Speaker 1>of those networks and you try to make a call

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone else in the US, your call will not

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<v Speaker 1>go through because it will be blocked, assuming that they're

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<v Speaker 1>not on the same network you're on, in which case

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<v Speaker 1>you know you might be able to have calls within

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<v Speaker 1>your network, but not outside of it. The networks include

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<v Speaker 1>a CABUS that's a k A B I S cloud

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<v Speaker 1>for global you see Horizon Technology Group, Morse Communications, Sharon

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<v Speaker 1>Telephone Company, and Southwest Arkansas Telecommunications and Technology. The clock

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<v Speaker 1>is ticking for these companies to get up to speed,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully at the end of all this, Americans will

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<v Speaker 1>experience a significant decrease in robo calls. Another US agency

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<v Speaker 1>that's gearing up to make an impact is the f

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<v Speaker 1>TC or Federal Trade Commission. It announced an upcoming event

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<v Speaker 1>on October nineteenth that will include experts in several fields,

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<v Speaker 1>including marketing, psychology, and child development to determine quote what

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<v Speaker 1>measures should be implemented to protect children from manipulative advertising

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<v Speaker 1>end quote. So this isn't to try and find out

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<v Speaker 1>if advertising is manipulative. It's already taken that as a given,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes sense because it's like we have any lack

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<v Speaker 1>of evidence on this. They're saying no advertising is manipulative.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it's kind of its purpose sys to manipulate

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<v Speaker 1>you into buying something, or convincing your parents in the

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<v Speaker 1>case of children, to buy something. So the process they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna follow could include things like examining advertising that could

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<v Speaker 1>be thought of as crossing the boundary to pass itself

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<v Speaker 1>off as entertainment. So to a child, it might be

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<v Speaker 1>as if they're watching a show, but that show itself

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<v Speaker 1>is really a commercial. Honestly, if you were to ask

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<v Speaker 1>me about my favorite shows as a kid, all of

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<v Speaker 1>them were effectively just commercials for toys. Like all the

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<v Speaker 1>shows I loved as a kid were really the thinnest

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<v Speaker 1>of excuses to show off a bunch of characters and

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<v Speaker 1>vehicles and sets that would ultimately be sold as play

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<v Speaker 1>sets and and action figures and stuff. So I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I'm on board with this because I've definitely been

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<v Speaker 1>the target of this sort of marketing in my own past,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure all of you out there have to

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<v Speaker 1>at some extent. So the FCC is also involved with

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<v Speaker 1>this particular process. The f c C is giving the

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<v Speaker 1>public the opportunity to comment on issues that are brought

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<v Speaker 1>up during this October nineteenth event. So after the event

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<v Speaker 1>and until November eight, the general public will be allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to make comments on a on the matter on a

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated website. There's been a steadily growing push in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States to establish more defined and firm privacy protections

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<v Speaker 1>for U S citizens, particularly for children, which is nice. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they have been so lax for so long that it's

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<v Speaker 1>really an uphill battle at this point, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've kind of we kind of settled into complacency when

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<v Speaker 1>it came to protecting our own privacy, and as a result,

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<v Speaker 1>we have all these different systems in place that really

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<v Speaker 1>prey upon our private information or have convinced us to

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<v Speaker 1>essentially hand over that private information um and so correcting

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<v Speaker 1>that now is is a lot harder than building in

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<v Speaker 1>those protections from the beginning, but still better late than never.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess okay, I've got a bunch more stories to

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<v Speaker 1>go through, But before we get to any of those,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a quick break. We're back. Regular listeners of

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<v Speaker 1>this show likely already know that I am something of

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<v Speaker 1>a metaverse skeptic. I have not kept my opinions about

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<v Speaker 1>the metaverse very you know, private, But in an interview

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<v Speaker 1>with a Dutch publication called Bright Apple, CEO Tim Cook

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<v Speaker 1>also expressed some skepticism and criticism about the whole metaverse craze.

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<v Speaker 1>One of Cooke's arguments is that the metaverse really isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a thing yet, and no one really has a firm

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<v Speaker 1>definition of it. There are a lot of different visions,

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<v Speaker 1>some of which have very little overlap with each other,

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone is calling a metaverse. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>speculation around it, there are a lot of questionable businesses

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<v Speaker 1>popping up around it, and really you've got dozens or

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<v Speaker 1>even hundreds of different concepts about what the metaverse even

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<v Speaker 1>is or will be. Then Tim Cook also argues that

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<v Speaker 1>technologies like VR are not likely to pull us into

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<v Speaker 1>using them extensively as the new way to interact online.

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<v Speaker 1>We might use them on occasion for specific tasks, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like playing a VR game, or maybe watching some entertainment,

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<v Speaker 1>or perhaps you know, if you're working in architecture, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're using VR to you know, move around a virtual

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<v Speaker 1>model or something. But Cook does not anticipate VR replacing

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<v Speaker 1>how we currently interact with the online world, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>tempted to decide with Cook on this. However, I also

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<v Speaker 1>admit I am getting older and I am more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to resist some ideas as I get older. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>also possible that old folks like myself are just way

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<v Speaker 1>off base that you know, we don't see this as

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<v Speaker 1>the future because we're too mired in the past. That

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<v Speaker 1>is possible. However, right now, I see the metaverse as

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<v Speaker 1>mostly a buzzword that is covering up a flurry of

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<v Speaker 1>activity that's really geared to cash in on any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of excitement about the idea of a metaverse, and I

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<v Speaker 1>include stuff like an f t S and that again

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<v Speaker 1>not to say that n f t S won't have

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<v Speaker 1>a valid place, but they were really treated as speculative

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<v Speaker 1>commodities early on, and that damaged the image of n

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<v Speaker 1>f T s moving forward. Also Web three concepts, I

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<v Speaker 1>find those to be pretty questionable in a lot of cases,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously there are more examples than just that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I should also acknowledge that I Heart Radio has gotten

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<v Speaker 1>into the metaverse playing ground on platforms like Roadblocks and Fortnite.

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<v Speaker 1>I Heart Radio has created virtual spaces for folks to

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<v Speaker 1>gather at within these games and these platforms where they

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<v Speaker 1>can do stuff like do little virtual activities and even

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<v Speaker 1>attend virtual concerts. Now, I admit I just don't get

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<v Speaker 1>the appeal. I mean, I get the appeal of the

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<v Speaker 1>gaming material, like the stuff that is kind of light,

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<v Speaker 1>almost like it reminds me kind of a mobile games,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's that kind of level of game engagement. I

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<v Speaker 1>get the appeal of that. I mean, these games exist

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<v Speaker 1>because they tap into something that's very human. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do not get the appeal of going to a virtual concert. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I did spend some time in the Roadblocks I Art area.

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<v Speaker 1>I played around a bit, but you know, beyond some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty simple game mechanics, it just wasn't my thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of bounced from it. But again I have

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<v Speaker 1>to admit, you know, I'm I'm descending into grumpy old

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<v Speaker 1>man territory and that may just be the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get the appeal. Uh Also, I should add

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't recognize any of the music acts that

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<v Speaker 1>we had, you know, upcoming concerts, because the stuff I

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<v Speaker 1>listened to comes from a different era. And uh so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at the names of the artists who are

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<v Speaker 1>having these virtual concerts and I don't recognize any of them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm way out of the loop. And again I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's cause I'm getting old. But yeah, I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>if any of you out there attending any virtual concerts,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you think was it appealing? Was the experience compelling? Mike?

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<v Speaker 1>What made it different from say, watching a video of

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<v Speaker 1>a band play doesn't compare at all with being in

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<v Speaker 1>a physical venue and watching a band play. I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, because I have not experienced it yet, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you have, I'm really curious to hear about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on, Google has steadily been winding down its products

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<v Speaker 1>and services in China over the last several years, and

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<v Speaker 1>this week Google shut down its Google Translates service within China,

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<v Speaker 1>citing low usage as the reason behind this decision, which

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<v Speaker 1>you know is pretty much the same reason Google chose

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<v Speaker 1>to shut down the Stadia service in general. Now, in

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<v Speaker 1>other cases with Google's products in China, Google either shut

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<v Speaker 1>down services because of government interference, so you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of censorship issues that just made it untenable

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<v Speaker 1>to continue operating those services in China, or it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have a choice. The Chinese government just came in

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<v Speaker 1>and started blocking different Google services like Google Maps and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. And I feel like the last decade

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<v Speaker 1>or so has been one in which companies have realized

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<v Speaker 1>there's a hefty cost to attempting to access the huge

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<v Speaker 1>market of China. Anyway, Google still has a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>products that are active in China, but it remains to

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<v Speaker 1>be seen if those stick around for very long or

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<v Speaker 1>if China just leans heavily on uh the native companies

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<v Speaker 1>within the country to provide the services that Google would

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise be involved with. Okay, let's talk about YouTube some more.

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<v Speaker 1>We mentioned it previously in the Supreme Court case that

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<v Speaker 1>is coming up, but now it's a totally different story.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever it comes to ads on YouTube, I actually have

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<v Speaker 1>to read up on articles about it, because, as I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned in yesterday's episode, I'm actually subscribed to YouTube Premium,

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<v Speaker 1>and has to be clear that's not how I started out.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't start out subscribe to that. I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>subscribed to a totally different service that ultimately got folded

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<v Speaker 1>into YouTube Premium, and my subscription just kind of rolled

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<v Speaker 1>over and I kept it. Anyway, This means that when

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<v Speaker 1>I go on YouTube, I don't actually experience ads on

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<v Speaker 1>the site. So I didn't notice any ad creep or

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<v Speaker 1>changes in ad placement because I've never seen them, which

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<v Speaker 1>means that when I read about it, it really shocks me.

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<v Speaker 1>So for example, in August, YouTube was reportedly testing out

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<v Speaker 1>a different ad approach and sometimes had as many as

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<v Speaker 1>ten unskippable ads before a video. For a lot of you,

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<v Speaker 1>this probably isn't news. It was totally news to me

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<v Speaker 1>and shocking. I could not believe that they would put

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<v Speaker 1>up to ten unskippable ads before a video plays. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just way too much, particularly as YouTube is starting to

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<v Speaker 1>shift it's preferences once again. So by that, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>for a very long time, YouTube prioritized short form videos.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the site had a strict limit on how

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<v Speaker 1>long videos could be. You know, you could only upload

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<v Speaker 1>videos of up to ten minutes in length for the

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<v Speaker 1>longest time, and then gradually YouTube relax that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube's algorithms started to prioritize longer form content, probably because

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<v Speaker 1>it would keep people on the platform longer, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they would stick to watch an entire video, so a

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<v Speaker 1>long video was prioritized by the algorithm. But now we're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to see a shift again more back to short

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<v Speaker 1>form as YouTube tries to deal with the eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>pound gorilla in the room, which is TikTok. TikTok threatens

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<v Speaker 1>all social video platforms out there, so Google, like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them, are trying to kind of cater to

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<v Speaker 1>that short form ex experience two maybe tempt some of

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok's audience away to join the platform. Well, now Google

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be testing out a new way to urge

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<v Speaker 1>folks to subscribe to YouTube Premium by restricting four K

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<v Speaker 1>resolution content to YouTube Premium subscribers. Uh caud rate nes

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<v Speaker 1>store and I apologize for the butchering of that name

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<v Speaker 1>from the site. Notebook Check wrote about this, saying that

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube hasn't commented on anything related to this allegation, but

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<v Speaker 1>that some users online in things like Reddit groups have

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<v Speaker 1>claimed to encounter videos that offer a higher resolution version

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<v Speaker 1>of that video, but with the message tap to upgrade,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning you would only get access to that high resolution

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<v Speaker 1>version if you upgraded to a YouTube premium account. This

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<v Speaker 1>or was actually unable to replicate this issue themselves because

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<v Speaker 1>they are in Romania and apparent only it's not being

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<v Speaker 1>tested there. So this does look like if it is

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, it's a limited test, and it's possible that

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<v Speaker 1>it never goes anywhere else. It may be that they

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<v Speaker 1>test it, they decided against it, and we never hear

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<v Speaker 1>about it again. Or it could mean that the higher

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<v Speaker 1>resolution versions of videos are going to be locked behind

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<v Speaker 1>a subscription paywall in the future. Okay, I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>few more stories I want to cover. Before I get

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<v Speaker 1>to those, let's take another quick break for this next story,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going back to China. There's a lot of flip

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<v Speaker 1>flopping around here. It was hard to organize this episode

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of the stories had kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>common thread to them, But ultimately, you know, you just

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<v Speaker 1>do what you can do. So the U S. White

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<v Speaker 1>House is soon going to release some more restrictions regarding

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of U S tech can be sold in China.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is all about a concern that the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>could use US produced technologies for Chinese military applications, and

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<v Speaker 1>considering the United States is relationship with China, that stands

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<v Speaker 1>as a potential problem. So the rumored list of restrictions

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<v Speaker 1>includes expanding the type that we're placed on Huawei, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a Chinese telecommunications company. So we're probably going to

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<v Speaker 1>see some similar restrictions that will cover entities like Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>government research laboratories, UM semiconductor companies in China, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as academic institutions in the country. The move might also

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<v Speaker 1>shift China's positions in various tech fields, like it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just to prevent China from incorporating these US created technologies

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<v Speaker 1>into Chinese military applications, but also to shift the balance

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<v Speaker 1>of technological superiority in specific areas of tech like super

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<v Speaker 1>computing or AI. You've probably heard about how AI is

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<v Speaker 1>like the next UH weapons race and that China is

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<v Speaker 1>a leader in the field. So you could also think

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<v Speaker 1>of this as firing shots in the war of establishing

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<v Speaker 1>technological superiority. Fun stuff, not long ago I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>a proposed law in the EU that would require all

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<v Speaker 1>smartphone manufacturers to adopt the USBC standard for charging. The

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<v Speaker 1>same rule applies to devices like cameras and tablets and

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<v Speaker 1>will eventually apply to laptops. So this law passed with

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelming support. More than six representatives voted in favor, only

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen voted against it. It's definitely something that has some

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<v Speaker 1>EGG advantages. So for consumers, this means that their cables

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<v Speaker 1>will fit all these basic devices interchangeably. Right, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you have USBC cables, you're good to go. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter what device you have, it doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturer created it. Your cable is going to fit that device,

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't have to sort through a mass of

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<v Speaker 1>tangled wires trying to find the one that works with

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<v Speaker 1>a specific gadget. This also can cut back on e

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<v Speaker 1>waste because you don't need charging cables for each and

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<v Speaker 1>everything because you're not gonna be charging everything all the

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<v Speaker 1>time at the same time. You can use the same

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<v Speaker 1>cable to charge multiple different devices over time. Uh really,

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to buy a new one if an

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<v Speaker 1>old one wears out or stops working, or if you

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<v Speaker 1>do need to have an extra one because you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of devices that you use frequently enough that

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<v Speaker 1>it would be inconvenient otherwise. But it does cut way

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<v Speaker 1>back on e waste. However, for companies like Apple, it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a big headache and is having to accommodate the

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<v Speaker 1>USBC standard and considering the form factor of products like

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<v Speaker 1>the iPhone, that pretty much means abandoning the proprietary lightning

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 1>port and switching to USBC, you know, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>say supporting both at the same time. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people claim that this is just long overdue and that

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<v Speaker 1>this should have been done years ago. Honestly, I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to see something like this pushed in America because

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<v Speaker 1>it gets really frustrating when you try to track down

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<v Speaker 1>a specific cable for a specific device. And while I've

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<v Speaker 1>singled out Apple in this news item, in my own experience,

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<v Speaker 1>the company that did this the most was Sony. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I would get a Sony gadget and it would have

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<v Speaker 1>its own onboard battery that you would charge by plugging

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<v Speaker 1>in a you know, plug into the wall and attached

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<v Speaker 1>the cable to the device. But it was always a

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<v Speaker 1>proprietary cable that you know, you couldn't just get a

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<v Speaker 1>USB cable. Those wouldn't work, It wouldn't fit the part.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, Sony was really bad about that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to see this in America. It may not

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<v Speaker 1>matter because companies may just switch worldwide to more of

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<v Speaker 1>a universal support of USBC, because if you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do it in Europe, you might as well do it everywhere, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a possibility anyway. Starting in late all smartphones, tablets,

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<v Speaker 1>and cameras sold in the EU must be USBC compatible.

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<v Speaker 1>Laptop manufacturers will have a little more time to comply

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<v Speaker 1>with those rules coming into effect in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a super tanker on the seas called the New

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<v Speaker 1>Aiden that is testing out some new old tech, and

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<v Speaker 1>by that I mean sales. But these aren't the big

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<v Speaker 1>canvas sales you would see on tall ships and pirate movies. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This super tanker, which is three hundred and thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>meters long or one thousand ninety three ft long and

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<v Speaker 1>can hold around two million barrels of crude oil, is

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<v Speaker 1>using a set of four carbon fiber retractable sales to

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<v Speaker 1>provide some of the energy needed to move this big

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<v Speaker 1>old thing around. New Atlas reports that the sales on

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<v Speaker 1>this ship can reduce fuel consumption by nearly ten per cent,

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<v Speaker 1>So this Mastership is still using fuel. Also, it's being

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<v Speaker 1>used to transport fossil fuels. So it's not like this

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge triumph for the environment or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it could show that similar technologies on other types

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<v Speaker 1>of ships will follow and collectively help reduce fuel consumption

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<v Speaker 1>and cut down on issues like pollution and contributions to

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<v Speaker 1>climate change. The sales themselves measure forty in height when

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<v Speaker 1>fully deployed, that's about a hundred thirty feet, and they

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<v Speaker 1>connect to masks that can adjust the angle of the

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<v Speaker 1>sales so that they are harnessing the power of the

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<v Speaker 1>wind at maximum efficiency even as the wind shifts around.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty neat technology, and my hope is that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see more innovation in this space so that

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<v Speaker 1>the shipping industry can reduce carbon emissions significantly over the

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<v Speaker 1>near future. Finally, one story that did a quick one

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<v Speaker 1>a d from the end of last week to the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of this week is playing out on Ours Technica.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, This really all starts with a story that

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<v Speaker 1>was published in The Telegraph, which said that actor Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>Willis had sold the rights to his likeness to a

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<v Speaker 1>company called deep Cake based out of Georgia, not my

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>home state, but rather the Republic over Eurasia. Ours Technica

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>had reported on this story last week. They cited the

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:35.439
<v Speaker 1>Telegraph article, but even when they published the article, they

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<v Speaker 1>noted that some details mentioned in the Telegraph we're unverifiable,

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<v Speaker 1>including one that said that Willis is the first actor

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<v Speaker 1>to officially sell his likeness to a deep fake company.

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<v Speaker 1>But now Bruce Willis's agent has come forward denying that

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<v Speaker 1>the actor ever made such an arrangement with Deep Cake,

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<v Speaker 1>which has been using a digital replica of Bruce Willis

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<v Speaker 1>to market its own products and services to potential customers.

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<v Speaker 1>Deep Cake, for what It's worth, claims that it has

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<v Speaker 1>a formal arrangement with Willis to use his likeness, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>for a commercial that ran in Russia. In one Willis's

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<v Speaker 1>representatives deny that he ever made such an agreement. This

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<v Speaker 1>is both fascinating and terrifying. I mean, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>many concerns folks have about deep fikes is that using

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<v Speaker 1>the right combination of software, you can replicate a person's appearance,

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<v Speaker 1>their voice, their mannerisms to a degree that could I

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>have done well enough make that person irrelevant for certain

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>types of projects, you know, like movies or commercials or podcasts. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that this is the most important concern

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<v Speaker 1>that folks have regarding deep fakes. There are plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>others that have more broad effects than the impact of

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<v Speaker 1>a specific person's career. Do you know as someone who

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<v Speaker 1>could potentially be affected by this at some point? It

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<v Speaker 1>definitely raises concerns. Now Here's the nice thing. If I

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<v Speaker 1>am ever replaced by a robot version of me, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>will still get the show. You might just get more

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<v Speaker 1>AI related dad jokes and puns. Anyway, I'm interested to

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<v Speaker 1>see how this story plays out. It could serve as

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<v Speaker 1>an early battleground for things like rights to your own

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<v Speaker 1>likeness and voice, and maybe even lead to legislation meant

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<v Speaker 1>to help protect that kind of thing. What you know

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<v Speaker 1>seems wild, but these are interesting times. That wraps it

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