Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, as the Complete Northern Exposure
Speaker 1: box said, Welcome to another edition of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis. I come to
Speaker 1: you from the virtual room filled with some eros, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. You know, if you're a fan of the
Speaker 1: show and you know the history of the show, paying attention.
Speaker 1: Over the last month or so, all of our money
Speaker 1: drops have been Chris Westling themed um our good friend
Speaker 1: who passed away UH February five and Northern Exposure. West
Speaker 1: I mean as a as as Mark Sessler would say
Speaker 1: wrote c poems about Northern Exposure, and he said it
Speaker 1: was one of the truly greatest um television television programs.
Speaker 1: I believe it was like a half drama, half comedy.
Speaker 1: I never saw it. It It was a CBS show, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever watched the show on
Speaker 1: CBS that wasn't Sport or sixty minutes and a Northern
Speaker 1: Exposure was the show that was so near and dear
Speaker 1: to West's heart. And because of that I have wanted
Speaker 1: to watch it um even even before West past it was.
Speaker 1: It piqued my curiosity because West has such great taste
Speaker 1: and pop culture. Um. However, it's one of those shows
Speaker 1: that never pops up and you can never find it um.
Speaker 1: So it remains a bit of a mystery. But I
Speaker 1: believe a listener at some point sent West the full
Speaker 1: box set or it was some type of ripped off
Speaker 1: somewhere of Northern Exposure. So I guess there's a big
Speaker 1: underground contingent for that program. I think it's got It's
Speaker 1: a definitely a cult hit. I used to watch it periodically,
Speaker 1: but I I like Wes was a true expert, but
Speaker 1: it was it took place, you know, in a small
Speaker 1: little town, very quirky. I think there was the main
Speaker 1: Carolasta yeah, in a radio show, among other things. Um.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to do the memory of it wrong,
Speaker 1: but I do think the box set came there was
Speaker 1: there was some sort of marketing um distribution snag with
Speaker 1: Northern Exposure, so it's hard to obtain and sound Yeah,
Speaker 1: they can't get the rights to the soundtrack. Well, I
Speaker 1: I was just it's funny. I was just thinking about
Speaker 1: this last week for some reason, about Northern Exposure. It's
Speaker 1: because it was like West's life in some way before
Speaker 1: it happened. I don't know, if he watched it before
Speaker 1: it happened. But it's like Tybee was his Alaska, his
Speaker 1: when I went, when we went down there and I
Speaker 1: met his totally diverse and um wacky group of friends
Speaker 1: which all had their own little flavor, Like that was
Speaker 1: the northern exposure. The guy in the show is like
Speaker 1: the fish out of town and he ends up having
Speaker 1: a radio show. There's a little bit of west too.
Speaker 1: I mean that didn't happen until l A, but it
Speaker 1: was like he loved collecting characters, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what that show was all about, everyone kind of doing
Speaker 1: their own thing, you know, our our deep Hollywood connection.
Speaker 1: Mike berk Awitz, if you're listening, Burke uh and I
Speaker 1: know you know you don't typically work in a television realm,
Speaker 1: but this sounds like a television show. Idea said it
Speaker 1: in Tybee. Maybe we start maybe it's our chance at
Speaker 1: a star vehicle in primetime, and just thrown it out
Speaker 1: there as an option. There's something to think about. The
Speaker 1: NFL fires US and we all Our backup plan is
Speaker 1: a sitcom on CBS UM speaking of the Westlings, Phil Westling,
Speaker 1: all the Westling boys that we've met, our stand up dudes,
Speaker 1: and you know, a little left of center themselves, some
Speaker 1: of them, you know, quirky characters and interesting people. Uh.
Speaker 1: Nick Wesley, of course, was on the show, another Westling brother,
Speaker 1: talking trash about cornhole. I wasn't too impressed when I
Speaker 1: when I took him on in Tybee, and I hope
Speaker 1: to have a rematch when we get back to Tybee.
Speaker 1: And then we kind of wiped the floor with you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have to be I have to you know,
Speaker 1: it's not really how I remember it personally, but you know,
Speaker 1: opinions vary, I guess, or facts vary. The score I mean,
Speaker 1: the scoreboard does not disagree. I mean, it was here's
Speaker 1: the thing, and you know, let's stick a pin in it,
Speaker 1: because I'd rather have Nick here to talk about it.
Speaker 1: But we did this hype up to the big corn
Speaker 1: hole match, and then it was on the day of
Speaker 1: West's wedding, and like we were wearing tuxedos and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, no, I want to have a couple
Speaker 1: of drinks. I want to be loose. Let's do this
Speaker 1: the right way. I thought that Nick kind of he
Speaker 1: set that up in a certain way that would benefit
Speaker 1: him anyway. That's for another conversation. Phil Westling text me yesterday,
Speaker 1: Hey check this out, sends me a link. He knows
Speaker 1: that we are junkies for sports media. Uh, and he
Speaker 1: sends me a link to the great Andrew Marshaan to
Speaker 1: the New York Post, who's their media critic, Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: Addition means end is near for current Sunday Night Football booth.
Speaker 1: Hello cat Nip for the A t N podcast. So
Speaker 1: he had to send out the old A t N
Speaker 1: bat signal to get Andrew back on the show for
Speaker 1: a return engagement, and he will join us a little
Speaker 1: bit later. But before that, let us get to the
Speaker 1: latest news in NFL free agency. Let's start again. There's
Speaker 1: some name brands that are out there that you would
Speaker 1: think I would, Oh, they would, they would come off
Speaker 1: the board immediately, but whether it be age or the
Speaker 1: market not being what they want, they remained on the
Speaker 1: board longer than you expected. One of those people, Patrick Peterson,
Speaker 1: the former All Pro with the Arizona Cardinals who's been
Speaker 1: a little up and down in recent years. He is
Speaker 1: now joining a new team. It's the Minnesota Vikings on
Speaker 1: a one year deal. So Peterson gets a fresh start
Speaker 1: after I think it was close to a decade in
Speaker 1: the desert Um and Greg will start here, is he
Speaker 1: is this this version of Patrick Peterson and it feels
Speaker 1: like he's Oh, he's thirty five and this is the
Speaker 1: end of the road. No, he's thirty years old. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be thirty one one week one hits. Is he
Speaker 1: a big upgrade to Minnesota Secondary or a question mark?
Speaker 1: He's a question mark. The price tag indicates they think
Speaker 1: he's a big upgrade. They didn't have much there last year.
Speaker 1: They went really and it didn't work. That was the
Speaker 1: weakness of their entire team, I would say, more than
Speaker 1: anything was their cornerbacks. Mike Zimmer is kind of the
Speaker 1: veteran cornerback Svengali he gets. He got Terrence Newman to
Speaker 1: keep playing until he was thirty nine. Like He's helped
Speaker 1: a lot of defensive back. That's what I think of
Speaker 1: when I think of Mike Zimmer. So it's a great
Speaker 1: fit for Patrick Peterson. Maybe the the role is somehow
Speaker 1: um better there for him. But he's a guy who
Speaker 1: you know, was on the Hall of Fame path still
Speaker 1: has a chance I think a solid one UM. But
Speaker 1: because he was that number one cornerback. He he was
Speaker 1: like left to do a lot in Arizona, and if
Speaker 1: you watch the Cardinals, you gotta be real he was
Speaker 1: getting lit up quite a bit. I mean, he struggled,
Speaker 1: and the PF grades certainly reflect that he was asked
Speaker 1: to do more. But he was getting lit up the
Speaker 1: last two years and he got suspended during that that stretch,
Speaker 1: which is not a great a great thing. If you
Speaker 1: look at every Mike Zimmer cornerback room and he's had
Speaker 1: a lot of stops before Minnesota too, that there were
Speaker 1: always one or two older veterans who were like awesome
Speaker 1: leaders and kind of set the tone, and they had
Speaker 1: their room is really young. I mean member last year
Speaker 1: they wiped out that entire group and started over essentially.
Speaker 1: So if anything, maybe it's a come in like make
Speaker 1: sure these guys are doing their work right and maybe
Speaker 1: we got a good year out of you. But I
Speaker 1: think it's a question mark for sure. I agree with Greg.
Speaker 1: He has a chance now on the one year deal
Speaker 1: to to rejuvenated career. Maybe. So it's one of those
Speaker 1: changes scenery things we'll see um or is at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the end. Uh. In other news, the Washington
Speaker 1: Football team continues to make moves. They have Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: locked and loaded as their Week one starter. Most likely
Speaker 1: we'll see I hope the old rug doesn't get pulled
Speaker 1: out on fitz magic. Uh. And now they have a
Speaker 1: great weapon added to the mix. They signed Curtis Samuel
Speaker 1: formally of the Pathers three years, thirty four and a
Speaker 1: half million. Twenty four and a half of that is guaranteed,
Speaker 1: So I'll say it's a two year deal for twenty
Speaker 1: four and a half million. I think that's right. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, so this, uh, this is a good this
Speaker 1: is a good one mark for Washington. A team that
Speaker 1: needs juice, they need you know, we all know what's
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball and and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of potential there. And we actually saw that
Speaker 1: pidential uh come to life during their run to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: It was a limp to the playoffs, but they got
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. Now we're starting to see some pieces
Speaker 1: on offense to make this team more interesting. I think
Speaker 1: it's one of the teams that you just feel differently
Speaker 1: about where from where we were a week ago. And
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's Ryan Fitzpatrick and maybe that's a
Speaker 1: one year thing. But Ryan Fitzpatrick kind of fits with
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel, who you know, when Cam Newton was in Carolina,
Speaker 1: they kind of struggled to get Curtis Samuel lit up.
Speaker 1: Joe Brady shows up last year and they used him
Speaker 1: really well. And he was the only wide receiver in
Speaker 1: the league or player in the league with eight hundred
Speaker 1: yards receiving two hundred on the ground. He was a
Speaker 1: jet suite master that used him in the backfield a bunch.
Speaker 1: But now he goes back to Young Turner Scott Turner,
Speaker 1: who maybe didn't use him as well in Carolina. So
Speaker 1: my question is ken Ron Rivera and Scott Turner learned
Speaker 1: from what Joe Brady and the Panthers did last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got Terry McLaurin there. I think Logan
Speaker 1: Thomas is really interesting, Cam Sims, Antonio Gibson. So you
Speaker 1: can start to see, for the first time in a
Speaker 1: really long time, an interesting offensive course starting to build.
Speaker 1: And I love this edition. Who named him young Turner?
Speaker 1: Was that Michael keep to Leab during one of his Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just odd, that makes sense. I'm I'm excited to
Speaker 1: watch the Washington football team for the first time. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know when have I ever
Speaker 1: been excited? You've not been their ally. I mean I
Speaker 1: have long said on this show, like thirty fan bases
Speaker 1: are like, you hate my you know you hate my team,
Speaker 1: you hate my team. And I'm like, well you're you're
Speaker 1: all wrong, Um except for Washington. Now you're right. I
Speaker 1: do Uh. I do not like your team just in general,
Speaker 1: just how it was run, and it's been tough to watch.
Speaker 1: It's like a one to punch um but out fits
Speaker 1: Magic McLaurin. I love Gibson, I love I did like
Speaker 1: watching them last year because I thought the defense was
Speaker 1: fun and they were starting to get things going, but
Speaker 1: they were really limited at quarterbacks. And now you get Fitzpatrick,
Speaker 1: gets Samuel, who has a lot of fun to watch,
Speaker 1: uh used as a running back and stuff. You think
Speaker 1: turn it will do that quite a bit like this
Speaker 1: will be good. You got you got like two guys.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about it with Gibson and Samuel,
Speaker 1: who can basically play two positions if you want. I
Speaker 1: stated definitively last week on this podcast that I will
Speaker 1: not be picking the Dallas Cowboys to win the division.
Speaker 1: And I was worried about this possibility of August rolling
Speaker 1: around and all the other teams potentially sucking. But after
Speaker 1: the Fitzpatrick move, after the Samuel move, I am starting
Speaker 1: to feel um good about the idea of picking another
Speaker 1: team in the division with some level of confidence. I
Speaker 1: like the Washington football team. And on the subject of that,
Speaker 1: a little quiet on the name change front. I don't
Speaker 1: know was the plan that for the season that they
Speaker 1: would have. Yeah, I thought they're gonna work shop it
Speaker 1: and not. The whole point is, don't rush this later early, No,
Speaker 1: but I don't we I feel like we all kind
Speaker 1: of agreed that they kind of stumbled into it. There's
Speaker 1: no other word for they stumbled into beautiful uniforms. And
Speaker 1: I'm kind of cool with the football team. That's what
Speaker 1: they gotta do. This happening here, right, They gotta do
Speaker 1: it this offseason. That the timing of it might be,
Speaker 1: you know, April, May, June, but you gotta do it
Speaker 1: by then or it's too late. That I have a
Speaker 1: theory if it's gonna happen, it will happen right ahead
Speaker 1: of the draft, because it's all about selling merch and showcasing,
Speaker 1: and you want your you know, draft pick to come
Speaker 1: up on the stage with rog and and you want
Speaker 1: to have that new logo and all that stuff locked
Speaker 1: and loaded. But if you don't see that, I would
Speaker 1: wonder if there are serious internal conversations about them staying
Speaker 1: with Washington football team, which I know that's buzzy to say,
Speaker 1: just keep it. I'm fine with that too, But you know,
Speaker 1: I also don't mind. I like uniformity when it's in
Speaker 1: terms of every team in the league. They gotta where
Speaker 1: they're from. They got the nickname. Now, oh you're special
Speaker 1: because you had an offensive nickname. Now you get to
Speaker 1: be special. No, go find something new. I've come down
Speaker 1: on the other side. Sessler. Sorry, no, I just like
Speaker 1: they don't don't. I don't want, you know, seven months
Speaker 1: from now them rolling out with new fangled, bizarre, insane
Speaker 1: uniforms with like different shades on the helmet. It was
Speaker 1: just very sparse, um in old school the way they
Speaker 1: were last year. That's what I'm lobbying for. The name.
Speaker 1: Do what you need. It's like, let's cheer on the
Speaker 1: Washington Red Rockets. It's like, come on and don't hit
Speaker 1: me up on Twitter. People are like, oh, you say
Speaker 1: it's offensive. I don't say it's offensive. People thought it was.
Speaker 1: That are in the Native American community. So just that's
Speaker 1: the way it is, and you just got to adjust
Speaker 1: and move on. That case is closed. Move forward, right,
Speaker 1: that one, that one's over. You lost, You lose forward alright.
Speaker 1: Uh speaking of the Panthers, good signing here, Hassan Reddick,
Speaker 1: the former Cardinal, signs a one year, six million dollar contract. Now,
Speaker 1: I find the way things tend to work in the
Speaker 1: NFL in this time of year is if you get
Speaker 1: if you're a guy that's coming off a double digit
Speaker 1: sack season, you set yourself up very well to get
Speaker 1: a big, fat contract. Reddick's coming off a thirteen sack season. Yes,
Speaker 1: I understand, I believe five would were in one game.
Speaker 1: But that is a breakout season by really any standard
Speaker 1: you'd think. But the contract tells you that the people
Speaker 1: around the league, uh or around the NFL, we're not
Speaker 1: necessary or our league, we're not necessarily sold on Reddick
Speaker 1: Reddick as a star. Um, that's what this contract tells me. Greg. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's like the start of phase two of
Speaker 1: free can see all those edge rushers got similar contracts,
Speaker 1: and that was the demarcation line. It makes me feel good.
Speaker 1: I mean not to make it all about me, but
Speaker 1: it's about I. I put Reddick well below all those
Speaker 1: guys too on my rankings. I was like, am I
Speaker 1: am I sleeping everyone down on this guy because I
Speaker 1: saw because I saw other you know, I saw the
Speaker 1: athletic are good friend Shield Capatti, who I think is
Speaker 1: I'm really good at doing this stuff. And his picks,
Speaker 1: by the way, oh my gosh, he like picked like
Speaker 1: sevent against the spread or something wild last year, so
Speaker 1: all credited immediately infatuated. I'm just saying, I'm trying before
Speaker 1: I bury him for having Reddick way too high, because
Speaker 1: he was because he was kind of a problem for
Speaker 1: four years he was they didn't know what to do
Speaker 1: with him. He was a little bit of a bust.
Speaker 1: And you have one year that pops up out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, the Cardinals didn't seem that
Speaker 1: interested in signing him. I was just I wanted to
Speaker 1: see it again before before you give it to him,
Speaker 1: just because he was used differently. Last year he had
Speaker 1: like fifty six pressures, and he had fifty seven the
Speaker 1: whole rest of his career, and I guess it's you know,
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones is out of the mix, so your role
Speaker 1: is gonna change. But I mean that's maybe it's about
Speaker 1: using it well. But I'm not surprised he didn't get
Speaker 1: some sort of mega contract. So here's my point. Then
Speaker 1: if I'm not being clear enough, or maybe I was
Speaker 1: and now I'm just talking too much. But Trey Hendrickson,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that's kind of under the radar for
Speaker 1: a few years. He has a breakout here. I think
Speaker 1: he had thirteen sacks for the Saints. He gets a
Speaker 1: Tier one deal, Reddick, same type of deal. I know
Speaker 1: he was more of a premium draft pick, but that
Speaker 1: might even help his case that he was premium draft stock.
Speaker 1: He has his breakout year in a walk year, He'sn'tier two.
Speaker 1: I don't know it's fair. I think Hendrickson personally, I
Speaker 1: always liked him before um I think he was better
Speaker 1: as a reserve player, uh than people realize. He just
Speaker 1: was only playing three under four undred snaps. But he
Speaker 1: he reminded me more of a Shack Barrett Um, which
Speaker 1: just like never got the chance as much in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: but always looked good when he got it. Have you
Speaker 1: ever heard of. There's a theory in the you know
Speaker 1: n b A. I'm forgetting the name here, but it's
Speaker 1: essentially like if you're a reserve like the Numbers show,
Speaker 1: if you're a reserve that put up good numbers. If
Speaker 1: you give the guy more minutes, he usually puts up
Speaker 1: the good numbers. You know, Greg dealing with your addiction
Speaker 1: in your past when it matters of the desert, when
Speaker 1: you see someone there was no addiction, there is a
Speaker 1: to when you see someone like sheel Um hit se
Speaker 1: against It probably wasn't seventy by the way by the
Speaker 1: end of the year, because that would be outrageous. But
Speaker 1: I was just puffing him up alop. He was very ageous.
Speaker 1: He was outrageous. He was he was great, He did
Speaker 1: very well. Does that is that a trigger for you
Speaker 1: a little bit? Like maybe there is a way to
Speaker 1: master this realm, Maybe that I should be at the
Speaker 1: end of casino out there with the big thick bottle
Speaker 1: glasses like that's my future. You could topple the odds
Speaker 1: in a way because you see someone else, a contemporary
Speaker 1: doing you must vanquish him. That you It gets your
Speaker 1: motor going. You're furious you're complimenting him, an we're probably not. Like,
Speaker 1: if you made it your whole thing, maybe it'd be
Speaker 1: possible to have some advantage over time. I guess I would,
Speaker 1: just I would want to see it over five years.
Speaker 1: A year is nothing, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: anyone can pop, You could pop for a year, and
Speaker 1: to me, like having an advantage would mean like hitting
Speaker 1: what fifty eight maybe percent over if you could hit
Speaker 1: fercent over a five year period like great or sixty,
Speaker 1: like you would never expect that to continue if he
Speaker 1: did it year after year. A year is almost nothing
Speaker 1: in in a sample size. Is Gregg is broadcasting to
Speaker 1: us that he would like to spend the next let's
Speaker 1: cut it. I'm saying it's not. It's not worth it
Speaker 1: because it's it's you know, almost entirely luck. And it's
Speaker 1: not where the juice isn't worth a squeeze unless unless
Speaker 1: you had so much, right, but unless you have like
Speaker 1: an exorbitant amount of money to put into this, and
Speaker 1: you're willing to do it over like a ten year period,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, no, it wouldn't be worth
Speaker 1: it because I think you might lose it the next year,
Speaker 1: all right, let me give you one before we move on.
Speaker 1: Let me give you one hypothetical. Okay, I can I
Speaker 1: can see TC right now. Cut that check to you,
Speaker 1: or promise you a scenario in which, from this point onward,
Speaker 1: from your age forty one, for age forty two, life two,
Speaker 1: whenever it comes to a close, you can hit on
Speaker 1: six of your picks, sixty six. I'll give you sixty
Speaker 1: of your picks. You're taking the s Are you walking
Speaker 1: into the great unknown knowing that two out of three
Speaker 1: of your picks will always be right and you can
Speaker 1: do whatever. It's not the great unknown. You just told
Speaker 1: me two out of three picks are right. If somehow
Speaker 1: I know that's right, you take that, because that's infinite.
Speaker 1: You don't know when you don't know much of those
Speaker 1: three is wrong. I guess is another way of putting it.
Speaker 1: So it's not a slant. It's not bif finding the
Speaker 1: sports almanacing back to the future too. But it feels
Speaker 1: like you're potentially in a big spot. The numbers are
Speaker 1: on your side, So I'm taking the two out of three.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's just math, right there. Give me
Speaker 1: a half a mill uh. In other news, Kyle Long
Speaker 1: retired unretired now signs with the Chiefs. Who mark the
Speaker 1: Chiefs really wanted to remake their offensive line and free agency. Uh,
Speaker 1: they did not get Trent Williams, their number one target
Speaker 1: at left tackle. They did not get Rodney Hudson, the
Speaker 1: center that was eventually traded to Arizona. Uh. They do
Speaker 1: get Kyle Long. How much of a concern is this, Mr.
Speaker 1: Sessler that the Chiefs uh cut their tackles last week.
Speaker 1: They don't necessarily hit it out of the park here.
Speaker 1: Uh in the free agency portion of the off season,
Speaker 1: and you have the you know, greatest player in the
Speaker 1: league behind the potentially leaky offensive line. I think it's
Speaker 1: like in terms of March concerns in March narratives. It
Speaker 1: is because we're fresh off of watching what happened to
Speaker 1: the most exciting offense in the NFL without those two tackles,
Speaker 1: And you know, there is a guy like Orlando Brown
Speaker 1: Junior sitting out there who wants to play left tackle
Speaker 1: on the Ravens and wants a trade. Um, there is
Speaker 1: the draft, but Daniel Jeremiah, UM, and I do Dan,
Speaker 1: I do trust what he has to say about the
Speaker 1: tackle position in the funding draft. Well, I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you that last year, a lot of teams fixed the
Speaker 1: problems at the tackle position in the draft. It was
Speaker 1: one of the better ones. Ever that's not the case
Speaker 1: this time. So you know there is concern and like
Speaker 1: you're not gonna You're not gonna find a better version
Speaker 1: of what Mitchell Schwartz was two seasons ago. Um, but
Speaker 1: I do wonder, like, would they ever resign Mitchell Schwartz
Speaker 1: if he stays out there at a reduced cost because
Speaker 1: he's coming off surgery, And it's like maybe they just
Speaker 1: wanted to say, let's reset the board. You might be
Speaker 1: back with us, And then you're looking for one guy
Speaker 1: could be Orlando Brown Jr. Could be a draft pick.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't panic, but I mean, you don't want to
Speaker 1: be a team looking for two tackles because finding one
Speaker 1: is hard enough, right. I think they they've had a
Speaker 1: terrible week. They got Tuny. You paying a guard that
Speaker 1: much money coming from New England, it has some level
Speaker 1: of risk based on the precedent, and I think Hudson
Speaker 1: or Trent Williams would have been major gets, even better
Speaker 1: gets than Tuney. And you went hard after him. You
Speaker 1: were ready to pay Trent Williams, according to reports, you know,
Speaker 1: basically the highest paid attack on the league. I think
Speaker 1: they probably had that in their mind when they cut
Speaker 1: Fisher in Schwartz and I'm with you Mark, I think
Speaker 1: cutting Schwartz and Fisher for that matter, although he might
Speaker 1: not be ready all season, they probably were thinking on
Speaker 1: some level, if we swing and miss and we still
Speaker 1: have cap space, like that is a potential route we
Speaker 1: can go. But Swartz it sounds like, may not play.
Speaker 1: You know, he he's deciding whether he's gonna play. And
Speaker 1: Kyle Long was great, but he also hasn't been really
Speaker 1: Kyle Long in about three years. Even the year he
Speaker 1: set out, there were two years before that where he
Speaker 1: wasn't really healthy. Meanwhile, on the Throne of Sleeves, Kyle
Speaker 1: van Nooy is coming back to town about that you
Speaker 1: gotta get the Pats back in the show's minutes, Uh
Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy the outside linebacker. Who oh who ouch.
Speaker 1: I guess this means that Cam Newton failed Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: in that scenario. I think about some ownership mean they
Speaker 1: can't I mean, they can't take away At this point,
Speaker 1: I still am surprised that people aren't like just lying
Speaker 1: back and being like, who, We're fine? What more do
Speaker 1: you want? What more do you want? Remember that old
Speaker 1: Bill Simmons tromp. It's like, oh, you can't complain about
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl away five years? I say, we trust them.
Speaker 1: How great for our planet? Reaching back into the greatest
Speaker 1: hits Rosa bo that's Lakisha saying, how great for our planet?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Greg, I don't even rebe he at this point.
Speaker 1: This annoys me by the way I do. Like getting
Speaker 1: Vanoi back though, that's let me, let me, let me
Speaker 1: help you with the trainer. Thought you were defending Bill Belichick. No, no,
Speaker 1: I was saying this. I was saying, like, calm down
Speaker 1: with like they need. There's no disaster at this point.
Speaker 1: You just watch the greatest run in football history, like
Speaker 1: you're logical that you know that not all Pats fans
Speaker 1: are like that, and expectations. The expectations are through the
Speaker 1: roof now, which seems stupid to me. To me, there's
Speaker 1: still like a nine and seven team over under at Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make me think they're like some world beaters,
Speaker 1: but that is not going to be the belief you're
Speaker 1: which just it's not how it works. And I went
Speaker 1: to school in Boston, so I have a lot of
Speaker 1: Boston friends, and like, man, the Patriots became the Yankees.
Speaker 1: And the thing about being a fan of a team
Speaker 1: like that is you don't ever say, oh, man, I
Speaker 1: really appreciate what happened there. And now I can just
Speaker 1: sit back and and you know, look at all my
Speaker 1: old you know, game programs, and and my replica championship
Speaker 1: ring that I've odd and my I'm gonna wear my
Speaker 1: Tom Brady jersey for the next thirty years and just
Speaker 1: be happy it happened. Uh, that's not really how it works.
Speaker 1: You just want more. It's the disease of more. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to I'm trying to disconnect. It's like partly just
Speaker 1: our job. It's like I'd rather just root for football
Speaker 1: and not have any stress on send the good thing.
Speaker 1: I know, the Yankees fan, you are. You are fine
Speaker 1: at this point to take your foot off the pedal
Speaker 1: and have them coast to the mediocrity hanging around you
Speaker 1: whenever like a Yankees game is on. You're not plugged
Speaker 1: in what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm one of those people.
Speaker 1: I mean, you do you don't The Yankees have won
Speaker 1: one World Series in the last eighteen years. Uh, they're
Speaker 1: they're always competitive, but that's not enough. Once you get
Speaker 1: to the mountaintop and you stay there for a while,
Speaker 1: it's like anything. It's a bit of a sneaky curse
Speaker 1: and no one's that are ever gonna feel bad for you.
Speaker 1: But you don't get to enjoy your team in the
Speaker 1: same way you once did. It's definitely different, I would say.
Speaker 1: With the most annoying aspect to this is that the
Speaker 1: Patriots are because he went to the Dolphins cal Vannoy
Speaker 1: a year ago on a massive contract and got cut.
Speaker 1: They are about they getting a fourth round camp pick
Speaker 1: for Kyli van Noy, who is now back on the team.
Speaker 1: It's like Hugh Jackson trading great Carson Palmer and then
Speaker 1: going back to the Bengals with the draft picks he
Speaker 1: got from trading for Carson Palmer from the Raiders. It's
Speaker 1: just like backwater nonsense. Their defense, to me is the
Speaker 1: bigger key they got, you know, and it's so hard
Speaker 1: to predict. But they're adding van Noy and High Tower
Speaker 1: and Jude On and they're still pretty very thin at
Speaker 1: defensive tackle, but they've got a good looking secondary on paper,
Speaker 1: That to me is the key because they were really
Speaker 1: mediocre to bad last year. And if you have a
Speaker 1: top eight or nine Belichick in type defense, you've got
Speaker 1: a shot. But but that's a I don't know, I
Speaker 1: gotta see it first. The case for Belischick being a
Speaker 1: little bit on tilt is that drafting two tight ends
Speaker 1: in the third round last year and then signing two
Speaker 1: tight ends too massive contracts this year. That shows you
Speaker 1: something's going on, something's percolating. Whether you want to say
Speaker 1: it's a good thing or a bad thing. It's very interesting.
Speaker 1: I think they're there. Interesting organizations are bad also one
Speaker 1: year and listen, we we said it at nauseam, not
Speaker 1: just us, everyone in the football Gagnans and Day. Last
Speaker 1: year was a disaster for being a rookie coming into
Speaker 1: this league. You didn't get an off season program, you
Speaker 1: didn't have training camp, you didn't have free season games.
Speaker 1: You get dropped into to use a warz and you
Speaker 1: get dropped right into the ship. And now we're writing
Speaker 1: off those guys. I don't know, I'm not I'm not writing,
Speaker 1: but I I got you. But they're they were also
Speaker 1: what drafted outside like the top ninety or eighty fives
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it's like, Okay, those guys might not
Speaker 1: work out. It's like, um, you know, Rob Gronkowski was
Speaker 1: a late second round pick, Aaron Hernandez was a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick. You you needed to wait about one week
Speaker 1: of training camp to realize those guys were the real deal.
Speaker 1: And it's it's sometimes in covering the sport, like the
Speaker 1: coal posts move with with something like a third round pick.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's treated as well, it's you know, it's like
Speaker 1: a top one or right around their pick. Then some
Speaker 1: of the times it's like championship teams are built on
Speaker 1: third round picks. Like I don't know what to believe sometimes, right,
Speaker 1: but here I give you an example, like, so the
Speaker 1: Panthers get Jimmy Clawson and say he's our starter, and
Speaker 1: then a year later you realize this is not gonna
Speaker 1: work and we have a chance to get Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: What is do you stick to philosophy where you're like, no,
Speaker 1: let's be, let's be and stick to Jimmy Clawson. I
Speaker 1: mean he's feel like that's a little different. I mean
Speaker 1: that's what they spent a two They spent a full
Speaker 1: year with these two tight ends who probably flopped on
Speaker 1: some level behind the scenes, or just aren't going to
Speaker 1: be who they want to be. So it's like you
Speaker 1: upgrade and Bill Belichick is sort of micro dosing this
Speaker 1: week and going insane. So I do appreciate Market is
Speaker 1: kind of in on the Patriots. Now. This is a
Speaker 1: nice turn. It's to two to one here. I don't think, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think you've been paying attention. Mark has always
Speaker 1: had a Belichick going back to the brown stuff a
Speaker 1: little bit. Although I should note Mark, he never wrote
Speaker 1: you back the great piece you wrote, the Belichick letters.
Speaker 1: All the man had to do is write you back
Speaker 1: after you wrote that incredible piece on the dot com. Well,
Speaker 1: and maybe you should join me on the dark side.
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to write a media member back. He
Speaker 1: wrote me when I was like a young naive. But
Speaker 1: I would say, also, Dan, I have been on your
Speaker 1: side on the Belichick is quietly furious about what happened
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady. I do believe that. But now that
Speaker 1: the Patriots are a little they look more like the
Speaker 1: Browns of the nineties, you know, with Belichick, like they're
Speaker 1: they're not the world beaters, even if they wind up
Speaker 1: having a good season or whatever, it'll be like a weird,
Speaker 1: ugly scrap now marks back in Because of that, they're
Speaker 1: not like the dynastic, dynastic Patriots. One of the best, uh,
Speaker 1: one of the best face turns, I'll call it, in
Speaker 1: the history of this podcast is when the Patriots got
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, and West, who had long carried the water
Speaker 1: up and down the hill for Belichick and the Patriots, uh,
Speaker 1: turned on the on in such a way. It brought
Speaker 1: me so much joy to have Wes on my side
Speaker 1: for that period and he never really did make peace
Speaker 1: with Belichick, uh for the rest of his time on
Speaker 1: the show. That really really got in West's crawl and
Speaker 1: to me, when I think back of you know, some
Speaker 1: great back and force in history of the show when
Speaker 1: the passion was turned to eleven or maybe even too
Speaker 1: high West turning on Belichick over Antonio Brown signing is
Speaker 1: it's pretty high up there, and like so many things,
Speaker 1: he had great instincts. I do I and he didn't
Speaker 1: get a lot of argument either that it was a
Speaker 1: It was an embarrassing moment for them, and I think
Speaker 1: it was a real turning point for what was the
Speaker 1: final season of Tom Brady there. I know they won
Speaker 1: a bunch of games after that, and then you know,
Speaker 1: they ended up winning twelve. But it really was it
Speaker 1: was it put up a total black mark on Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's last season and helped to end that. I think
Speaker 1: he was right on point that commentary. What's uppen? Was
Speaker 1: that what you were saying back then, I was saying
Speaker 1: I was hoping for the best, but uh, I mean
Speaker 1: he was in and out in like two weeks. Uh No, Well,
Speaker 1: I was saying that this is kind of an embarrassment.
Speaker 1: But you know, there weren't any Antonio Brown defenders, and
Speaker 1: I would say that like two years ago, at this time,
Speaker 1: we were saying what a great job the Raiders did
Speaker 1: by signing Antonio Brown and how it was going to
Speaker 1: make a market difference, and this was the John Gruden offense.
Speaker 1: We're waiting for. Free agency is an absolute ghost. I mean,
Speaker 1: two years later, look where we are. It's it's beyond abserdain.
Speaker 1: So I want to push back. Actually, we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: maybe on this on the broadcast. I was thinking about
Speaker 1: it's like people also need to calm down on the
Speaker 1: like spinning free agency like never works. No, But you
Speaker 1: know what, because now I'm seeing that no, I'm seeing
Speaker 1: that tweet. Those tweets are now starting to pop up.
Speaker 1: The new it's the new, like the new wave of
Speaker 1: coolness on Twitter is like, actually, let's be real. Free
Speaker 1: agency does help some teams. And it's like, alright, there's
Speaker 1: no there's one way to do anything. It's like there
Speaker 1: are a million different ways, but you can't deny that.
Speaker 1: The e is the Rams, the painting, the Bucks and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs got a lot of their best players by
Speaker 1: spending a lot in free agency. So like it, it's
Speaker 1: a part of it. There's like no one right way
Speaker 1: to skin the cat. All right, let's hit pause on
Speaker 1: the news and welcome in a very special guest. And
Speaker 1: here he is, Yes, he is, uh The New York Post,
Speaker 1: Secret Weapon and all things sports media related. Andrew Marshawn
Speaker 1: joins us now to talk about and I'll just again,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read the headline again because I love it, Saucy.
Speaker 1: I don't think Andrew wrote the headline, but whoever did
Speaker 1: it captured it nicely. Drew Brees edition means end is
Speaker 1: near for current Sunday Night football booth motto. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you've got al Michael seventy six years old. You've got
Speaker 1: Chris collins Worth in there, locked and loaded. But Drew
Speaker 1: Brees retires, Andrew he's knocking on the door now he's
Speaker 1: already in the house. And of course Mike Rico as well.
Speaker 1: How is this gonna shake out? Well, how exactly will
Speaker 1: shake out is still to be determined. But I mean
Speaker 1: when you look at it, Tariko came over five years
Speaker 1: ago and when he did, uh, he had Thursday Night football,
Speaker 1: so he thought he'd did Thursday night. Al would do something. Now,
Speaker 1: I used to be able to do the NFL still
Speaker 1: along with the Olympics, and you know, the big money
Speaker 1: got um about what happened. NBC lost three night and
Speaker 1: when they had it the first year, Roger Goodell wanted
Speaker 1: uh the eighteen to do it. So even though Trico
Speaker 1: had done Monday night football, they still have al do it.
Speaker 1: And then the next year Toriko got to do then
Speaker 1: that way, Wait, so he's been waiting to replace Alico's
Speaker 1: who's still uh not the best, one of the best
Speaker 1: uh play by players even at seven six years old.
Speaker 1: Uh So to Rico's win meeting and al contracts up
Speaker 1: at the end of this year. After the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: which is in loss able to be a storybook ending,
Speaker 1: except there's no inclination to be my spoken to that.
Speaker 1: Michaels wants to retire. Now he comes in. He's gonna
Speaker 1: work with Tariko on Notre Dame football. He's going to
Speaker 1: do the pregame show on Sunday night with my Trico.
Speaker 1: Um So, NBC had a conference called on on Wednesday. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, nothing to see here. Everything slight. I wrote
Speaker 1: about last year when I had the breeze going NBC
Speaker 1: story about this, Um, you know now it's even closer
Speaker 1: and how exactly they could I'll get another one year deal.
Speaker 1: It's possible. But I do think Riego's knocking on that door,
Speaker 1: a little impatient, wants to get in there. Um, but
Speaker 1: I doesn't want to go anywhere. Collins a lot of
Speaker 1: different opinions that you know how good he is, but
Speaker 1: he's very established. Um, Andrews don't know what he is.
Speaker 1: But that's their next generation. It's obvious, is the plan.
Speaker 1: I mean that there's no question about. It's a matter
Speaker 1: of if. And but I think no briefe geld stick
Speaker 1: on your day and maybe I could blow it up.
Speaker 1: But but like I I this is the point it's clear.
Speaker 1: I guess my my one question if you know the
Speaker 1: nation we went through as a group, the Jason Witten
Speaker 1: experience with Monday night football, um, you know, and I
Speaker 1: get that there are I sense that these people have
Speaker 1: egos that feels um like part of this. But how
Speaker 1: did they know when they tout Drew Breese and you
Speaker 1: know that's from a big parade, is the next guy
Speaker 1: it's gonna do X Y and Z that Drew Brees
Speaker 1: is going to actually be good at this like they
Speaker 1: hit gold with Tony Romo um at CBS and but
Speaker 1: but to me, like I'm just gonna say, like the
Speaker 1: Drew Brees experience that personality wise, wonderful guy on some level,
Speaker 1: But I don't know, it's not the first guy I
Speaker 1: tick is like I want to listen to him, um
Speaker 1: wax poetic about football games. So is it like they
Speaker 1: they they've tested him and they know or they're just like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's a big name, we gotta roll him into the booth.
Speaker 1: And I want to just point out, first of all,
Speaker 1: is a wonderful guy. As you're saying this guy is
Speaker 1: gonna be no good. I mean, just to throw that
Speaker 1: in there, like the wonderful guy, but no personality not good.
Speaker 1: I thought that was very well done. Um, they're guessing.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the thing. Drew Brees is a
Speaker 1: great quarterback, um, wonderful guy. Um and you know, but
Speaker 1: into the booth now he yeah translate, well that well
Speaker 1: that's the question though, but can he Here's these guys
Speaker 1: basically all know what they're talking about and what the set.
Speaker 1: It's the ability to take what you have been doing
Speaker 1: on Sundays uh for twenty years and being able to
Speaker 1: make it understandable for idiots like me. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Can you say if you explain how you're
Speaker 1: checking off in a different way, just to understand what
Speaker 1: the quarterback see? You know during brewe Breese has that
Speaker 1: informtion in his head. Now can you do it in
Speaker 1: an entertaining way? And here's to me, a lot of
Speaker 1: broadcasting isn't really what you say a lot of times,
Speaker 1: but how you say it. And I would argue that
Speaker 1: Romo did out the predictions all that, But the thing
Speaker 1: that Romo did right out of the bat is that
Speaker 1: he's just talking about the game. He's very focused on
Speaker 1: the game, and even though sometimes he wavers in not
Speaker 1: as good at games, but like when there's been big games,
Speaker 1: he's into it and he's focused on that and he's
Speaker 1: enthusiastic about it. And I think that's what reason has
Speaker 1: to be genuine. It comes across where Bree, you don't know,
Speaker 1: so they answer your question, Yeah, they don't really know.
Speaker 1: They're guessing. They you know, educated guesses. But there's been
Speaker 1: many mistakes. Pass from Joe Montana to be wonderful guys,
Speaker 1: but not very good in the boot Andrew Marshawn giving
Speaker 1: us the uh deep dive on Drew Brees and what
Speaker 1: comes next. Thank you for joining us, Andrew, And I'll
Speaker 1: say goodbye with my favorite Drew Brees quote maybe ever,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's there's a lot through the
Speaker 1: years where Drew Brees, Uh, the way he interfaces the media,
Speaker 1: you wonder how genuinely he's being with you or if
Speaker 1: he's just saying the right things. This quote from the
Speaker 1: press gathering. I'm as excited to be in the booth
Speaker 1: with Mike Tarico as I was to throw passes to
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas on Sundays. And that's not enough. He can't
Speaker 1: just say that. He has to then double down with
Speaker 1: I am dead serious when I say that. Okay, all right, Drew,
Speaker 1: thank you Andrew and Marshall. It's like, well, Michael Thomas
Speaker 1: wasn't pain in the ass, so maybe that was like
Speaker 1: his way of getting Yeah. I thought that was interesting myself.
Speaker 1: All right, and thank you so much, and uh follow
Speaker 1: Andrew on Twitter and all this stuff on the post.
Speaker 1: Always good to see you buddy. All right, there he
Speaker 1: goes and apologies technical difficulties there. We could not get
Speaker 1: a good connection unfortunately with Andrew, so we had to
Speaker 1: jump out of that faster than we wanted to. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, still talk good to talk about
Speaker 1: and fun to talk about this drama. Um, Gregg, do
Speaker 1: you buy the idea of al Michael's uh saying goodbye here?
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on where Owl's at? Right? Well,
Speaker 1: then you know marciaun had a quote in there where
Speaker 1: he's said, al Michaels still throwing n on the black,
Speaker 1: you know, as opposed to when he was throwing a
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour earlier in his career. Al Michaels
Speaker 1: is like the greatest to ever do it. But I'm
Speaker 1: not sure I'm with him there. I thought you could
Speaker 1: see some real decline almost like boredom, you know, last year,
Speaker 1: like Al was not feeling the pandemic. Uh loves being
Speaker 1: at the center of everything. He loves he loves ratings.
Speaker 1: He wants to many people to be watching him. He
Speaker 1: wants to be at the center of the sports universe.
Speaker 1: And I totally get that it had to be a
Speaker 1: letdown for him. Still like a lot of people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: still like a top whatever, five, six, seven play by
Speaker 1: play guy at this point. But he but Tariko on
Speaker 1: another level and and some other guys too, and so
Speaker 1: maybe he goes back to ESPN or whatever. But it's funny.
Speaker 1: It's really funny because it kind of reminds me of
Speaker 1: the Drew Brees situation. It's like if Drew Brees had
Speaker 1: wanted to come back this year, and there was some talk.
Speaker 1: Even when Drew Brees came back last year, there was
Speaker 1: a little bit of like, oh, well, okay, one more
Speaker 1: because we feel a little uncomfortable pushing you out the
Speaker 1: door here. But now it's the year after. You know,
Speaker 1: Michael's is gonna get his one last year, and then
Speaker 1: it's I feel like NBC is gonna be like Sean
Speaker 1: Payton is, like, you don't have a choice to if
Speaker 1: you really want to come back, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: do it with another team. I do love that every
Speaker 1: time Al Michaels comes up in one of Andrew's articles
Speaker 1: that he mentions the Oswald Lucky Rabbit trade, in which
Speaker 1: ESPN dealt Michael's to nbc UM in return for this
Speaker 1: uh fictional character at Disney property. And like, I wonder
Speaker 1: if Al Michael's has like an al Pacino at the
Speaker 1: end of any given Sunday type of move left in
Speaker 1: him where you think he's out, and then he says, actually,
Speaker 1: I'm taking me and someone else to some other network.
Speaker 1: We're going to recreate all this go go displace um
Speaker 1: the Monday Night Football Crew, and which is displaced able?
Speaker 1: I don't seem very nice. It's too bad. It's a
Speaker 1: bad spot for Steve Levy, but that'd be fun. I mean,
Speaker 1: he Michael's is such a titan and he hangs over
Speaker 1: all of this right now that when you ask Steve
Speaker 1: Levy about it, uh, Levy even says, and it's in this,
Speaker 1: it's in the article UM in an interview with the Athletic.
Speaker 1: If al decides on a whim that he might it
Speaker 1: might be fun to go back to Monday Night Football.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, here you go, Al, what am I
Speaker 1: gonna say to Al Michael's It's which is okay. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's true or not, but it just
Speaker 1: shows you, first of all, the deference to a figure.
Speaker 1: He's a titan al Michael's in the history you of
Speaker 1: broadcasting and sports broadcasting. But also like that would be
Speaker 1: leave giving up his dream job, I mean Monday night
Speaker 1: football play by play guy and Uh Andrew also called
Speaker 1: this it has uh, it has jay Leno Conan vibes.
Speaker 1: Right now, you know the backstory there. Jay Leno did
Speaker 1: Late Night for you know, twenty years after Johnny Carson retired,
Speaker 1: and then uh, in like two thousand four, NBC announces
Speaker 1: that Conan, who was doing the late night show but
Speaker 1: after jay Leno, was going to succeed um Leno in
Speaker 1: the big chair at eleven thirty, but not for five years.
Speaker 1: And it created this really weird dynamic. Then it blew
Speaker 1: up and everybody's faces because then jay Leno didn't want
Speaker 1: to leave and NBC kept him on as well with
Speaker 1: Conan and submarined everything. Um, you wonder if they're getting
Speaker 1: into a tricky situation here, especially with some big personalities,
Speaker 1: especially that's he's younger, and that's a big hurdle for
Speaker 1: that's a big hurdle for Breeze to clear. It would
Speaker 1: be being better than cons Worth, so unless he's But
Speaker 1: side note, Conan O'Brien is about a hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: times better than Jay Leno, who I never found funny
Speaker 1: on any level. No, I'm totally I mean, I'm a
Speaker 1: huge um. Jay Leno played the game so well that
Speaker 1: it got to a point where it finally came back
Speaker 1: and bid him and everybody saw him as you know,
Speaker 1: fake and a phony that would do anything he did.
Speaker 1: He had the numbers, He had the numbers I was.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he's funny though I'm not funny to
Speaker 1: half of America. I just Conan is weirder and strange.
Speaker 1: It wasn't I completely agree with you there. I I
Speaker 1: spent many um an afternoon watching The Tonight Show with
Speaker 1: Jane Leno live as as a page at NBC making
Speaker 1: sure the aisles were clear. That was my job for
Speaker 1: about four months, watching Jay Leno give the same little
Speaker 1: uh pre show speech, which always creeped me out because
Speaker 1: the inflection in every single word was the exact same
Speaker 1: every day and all was just was kind to you.
Speaker 1: He well, now we were pages, so we did not
Speaker 1: have personal relationships, but there could not have been a
Speaker 1: more beloved boss. Um and Uh. I think everyone there
Speaker 1: stayed there and they all got paid, they all got
Speaker 1: rich off of it, so that makes sense. But every account, Um,
Speaker 1: first person account was he was like the nicest person
Speaker 1: of all time and a and a great boss. So
Speaker 1: you gotta give him that. That's important. It's important behind
Speaker 1: the scenes jay Leno stories. Let me share one more
Speaker 1: before we get back to football. My twenty ninth birthday. Um,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like I wanted as a birthday gift, but
Speaker 1: it just fell that way. My wife was working for
Speaker 1: NBC at the time, and we went to a Jay
Speaker 1: Leno taping in two thousand nine and it was at
Speaker 1: the end of the road. Now when he's about to
Speaker 1: leave and it's starting to percolate that Conan is going
Speaker 1: to take his job. We go to a taping. I
Speaker 1: don't remember who the guest was. I remember, Um, Ashley
Speaker 1: Simpson is the musical guest. Uh, and I'll never forget
Speaker 1: he did. That's that spiel that you're talking about, um
Speaker 1: Greg and then the show starts, and then during a
Speaker 1: commercial break when you know they're just resetting things, Leno
Speaker 1: sitting at the desk and he has a whole studio
Speaker 1: audience watching him, and you wondered if the whole moment
Speaker 1: and the situation with him losing his gig was hanging
Speaker 1: over him. He just stared straight ahead, stone faced during
Speaker 1: the entire commercial break, and it's like in a war
Speaker 1: movie where there's an explosion and then all you can
Speaker 1: hear is just a high pitch like that's what I
Speaker 1: pictured going through his brain. And then it was like,
Speaker 1: all right, we're back in five four and then he
Speaker 1: turned it back ontto a human being. I'll never forget
Speaker 1: Jay Leno with a thousand yards stare like the guy
Speaker 1: that watching watching that every day, I got the feeling,
Speaker 1: and it totally makes sense. It is like him during
Speaker 1: that show was like the equivalent of us, like, you know,
Speaker 1: checking our phone while we're way cheen TV was He
Speaker 1: had just done it so many times that it was
Speaker 1: like he wasn't even didn't even need to be there
Speaker 1: because he could do it so so easily. All Right,
Speaker 1: good Jay Leno Talk Guys Breaking news, Jeremy Fowler and
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter report former number two overall pick Mitch Trabinsky
Speaker 1: is signing with the Buffalo Bills. There you go, Sessler,
Speaker 1: your dream scenario. Trabinsky uh shuddered behind a star quarterback,
Speaker 1: never to be seen or heard from again. Happy birthday,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, honestly think it's good for Mitch Trobinsky,
Speaker 1: like go and hide away for a little bit, and
Speaker 1: he's young, who knows what will happen with his career.
Speaker 1: But I never liked the idea of him being shoved
Speaker 1: into another starting spot. Um. Any team that needs him
Speaker 1: as a starter is probably in trouble, and it would
Speaker 1: have been I just I don't know something. I feel
Speaker 1: bad for some of these quarterbacks when they failed, even
Speaker 1: though I ripped them verbally. It's part of our job.
Speaker 1: If it weren't, If I if it were just me
Speaker 1: wandering around town, I wouldn't be tapping people on the
Speaker 1: shoulders telling them how annoyed by him by Mr Robiski
Speaker 1: on the Bears. But I love the fact that they're
Speaker 1: not linked together anymore. Those two needed to separate UM
Speaker 1: in every possible way, and the Bill's good landing spot incredible.
Speaker 1: If we see him, that means total disaster, but um
Speaker 1: a good place to hide away for a bit and
Speaker 1: make a nice bit of money like e d Dead.
Speaker 1: If Mr Drobiskietre's lineup like you would be for certain backups,
Speaker 1: it gives you at least a fighting chance of something
Speaker 1: calamitous happens to Josh Allen. Isn't he automatically one of
Speaker 1: the better backups in the league. Yes, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's He's not. I'm not buying that. I'm not necessarily
Speaker 1: buying that. But I think any backup could potentially look
Speaker 1: great in Buffalo. Matt Barkley, you go look at when
Speaker 1: he played his yards per attempt in Buffalo, like he
Speaker 1: moved the ball down the field like. I think that
Speaker 1: is at the most quarterback friendly UH system right now
Speaker 1: with wide open guys and Alan's athleticism, you know, is
Speaker 1: a huge part of that. And Alan took it to
Speaker 1: another level that Mitch Drabrisky is never gonna do. But
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like if he ends up playing because
Speaker 1: Alan gets hurt, wouldn't surprise me if you put up
Speaker 1: some stats in that offense and then something to don't.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't hate Mitch is a backup, like
Speaker 1: he can come and he can do a few things.
Speaker 1: Do I clearly you know what I think about him,
Speaker 1: But I don't hate him as Quarterback's a nice But
Speaker 1: let's do another breaking news. Why not? I think I
Speaker 1: think this counts. The Raiders are getting back on the board,
Speaker 1: signing Kenyan Drake, the former Cardinals running back, to a
Speaker 1: two year contract, pairing with Josh Jacobs. There Dan doesn't
Speaker 1: think this was worth breaking. I had I had seen this,
Speaker 1: Eric consented about fifteen minutes ago, and I had that
Speaker 1: blocked and loaded in eight o'clock to life. I figured
Speaker 1: this was like a franchise tag level player. You're telling
Speaker 1: me the Jets signed Kenyan Drake to an Now you're
Speaker 1: putting it the show that's eighteen minutes of delight is
Speaker 1: what the another thing needs to be measured against the Jets.
Speaker 1: This is a this is an eight o'clock delight eyed item.
Speaker 1: To me. People will make fun of the Raiders for
Speaker 1: this because of the money, and like, hey, they want
Speaker 1: to be like a running team, and there's there's a
Speaker 1: fair point of that. I just want to say, I
Speaker 1: like Kenyan Drake. I like watching him. I like him
Speaker 1: and Josh Jacobs together. I think that'll be a nice,
Speaker 1: nice group. Josh Jacobs has had some injury issues, so
Speaker 1: I mean go with the two back system sometimes. Anyways,
Speaker 1: Onto eight o'clock Din, eight o'clock de Light, Billip Lindsay.
Speaker 1: He's heading to free agency. The Broncos were sind their
Speaker 1: restricted free agent tender on the running back went back
Speaker 1: to back when thousand yards to start there see started
Speaker 1: his career. But Mark, it just seems like the Broncos
Speaker 1: were never into Philip Lindsay. I think this has to
Speaker 1: also do with Lindsay wanting out Mike McCartney. His agents
Speaker 1: said that they came to an agreement. If that's what
Speaker 1: that means. They signed Mike Boone, who they like from
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Philip lindsays six hundred and eleven touches in
Speaker 1: his career, three thousand plus yards, a West favorite, zero fumbles.
Speaker 1: Someone's gonna get a good player here. Kicker corner Matt Prader,
Speaker 1: adding to the Cardinal Trader he was with the Lions
Speaker 1: most recently and uh, he's had a nice solid NFL career. Listen,
Speaker 1: I had a bit of a unsavory meeting with him
Speaker 1: on media day way back in two thousand thirteen when
Speaker 1: he was with the forty Niners. He was wearing it
Speaker 1: and hearing in one ear and seemed to be thinking
Speaker 1: he was the coolest guy in the building. Probably wasn't,
Speaker 1: but I'm putting that in the past. Okay, Matt Prador's
Speaker 1: had a great career and I's got a good job
Speaker 1: here at the Cardinals seven seven years in. Good Ryan
Speaker 1: suck Up also resigned to the Bucks. No comment. I
Speaker 1: mean they it's the first time they haven't had a
Speaker 1: new kicker in about seven years. So that's good. That's good.
Speaker 1: All right. Up next, Larry All good job heading to
Speaker 1: the Bengals from the Browns. Mark, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about this good player? But I would say really streaky
Speaker 1: will do something really interesting and then kind of fade away,
Speaker 1: And so the Bengals are hoping for the better version
Speaker 1: of that. All right. Tim Boyle signs of the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions as a backup quarterback. Get excited, Greg, Every everyone
Speaker 1: that covers the Packers is convinced Tim Boyle is awesome,
Speaker 1: and the fans too. And he did look good in
Speaker 1: the camp. I immediately saw like, oh, he'll beat out
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, so I maybe we'll see his nickname is
Speaker 1: human Victory Cigar Gross. Finally, Jared Goff, the excuse me?
Speaker 1: Jared Cook the tight end. Most recently with the Saints,
Speaker 1: he bounced around obviously Now with the Chargers, that seems
Speaker 1: like a nice landing spot. I mean he always he
Speaker 1: always puts up numbers and he always does one or
Speaker 1: two things that drives you crazy. Kyle Rudolph also to
Speaker 1: the diet. So I guess it's like sign your you know,
Speaker 1: next tier of tight end is day. That's where we're at,
Speaker 1: and that is anything else anybody wants to add that? No,
Speaker 1: that is eight o'clock the light, everybody, Ricky tells me.
Speaker 1: Kyle Rudolph to giants, We just said that. We literally
Speaker 1: just said that it was the last item of eight
Speaker 1: o'clock the light. She now writes in the check client.
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. The level of
Speaker 1: discourse in that room is just um, it's incredible. All right, Um,
Speaker 1: that's it for podcasts this week. We gave you a
Speaker 1: four in four days. You could not be more prepared
Speaker 1: to have a water cooler chat if water coolers still exist,
Speaker 1: in the future. I don't know if they do. In
Speaker 1: a world post pandemic, will things like water coolers melt away.
Speaker 1: Let's save that for a little deeper in the off season. Okay,
Speaker 1: save it for the post pandemic podcast. Sounds like a
Speaker 1: nice podcast. Uh. Tomorrow though, we continue with our content
Speaker 1: creation when the around the NFL broadcast rolls back onto
Speaker 1: NFL network air waves, and we'll have kind of a
Speaker 1: look back at the week that was, in addition to
Speaker 1: any late breaking news that occurs over the next twenty
Speaker 1: four hours. So make sure you check that outset your DVRs.
Speaker 1: And I do hear some rumbling, some potential uh talk
Speaker 1: about uh decision makers gathering, huddling discussing, how do we
Speaker 1: get this program to our UK audience. Uh, just just percolations.
Speaker 1: There's an NFL UH sky Sports channel out there now, uh,
Speaker 1: and it just it feels like a marriage that needs
Speaker 1: to happen. Now it's all over your you know, potentially
Speaker 1: you get sky Sports, you could be all over Europe,
Speaker 1: you could be an Asia even we you know, let's
Speaker 1: get this thing worldwide. Let's get the Asian Yes, our goal.
Speaker 1: You know, we we are not a We're not tied
Speaker 1: down by a national boundary, and you know it's operated
Speaker 1: in multiple countries. I wished yesterday, I wished our Irish
Speaker 1: listeners a happy St. Patrick's Day. Did it on Twitter
Speaker 1: as well. You know I have Irish heritage, so it's
Speaker 1: near and dear to my heart. And I uh was
Speaker 1: then told by someone on Twitter, and I'll accept it
Speaker 1: as fact. Come to Ireland. You will sell out any arena,
Speaker 1: so just keep that. Let's sell out slain Castle, let's
Speaker 1: go for let's go bigger. I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: would love uh. I would love uh to see the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast travel the world at a post
Speaker 1: pandemic scenario, so maybe that will happen. Get up there
Speaker 1: to the Emerald Aisle is one place. Let's get on
Speaker 1: at Burke if you made it this far, all right,
Speaker 1: good stuff, alright, Uh, thank you everybody again, uh for listening.
Speaker 1: We sincerely appreciate your support through the years. This Dan
Speaker 1: Hansas signing off for the Quiet Storm, the Old Boss
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