WEBVTT - 5. Krazy Horse 0:00:14.996 --> 0:00:26.076 Pushkin or sick cr zero season nine seven six six 0:00:26.596 --> 0:00:30.636 zero five Shift. Thank you very much. You're welcome to 0:00:31.476 --> 0:00:34.196 I'd like to speak. I sit in court and watch 0:00:34.276 --> 0:00:40.676 Anthony Rowda a lot. No, you'd denied. This is the 0:00:40.716 --> 0:00:43.196 tape from that first time I saw him, when he 0:00:43.236 --> 0:00:46.156 threw himself up against the walls of his plexiglass cage, 0:00:46.756 --> 0:00:50.716 shouting at the judge, his own lawyer, the bailiff, the world. 0:00:52.276 --> 0:00:53.916 So I don't give a shit. I'm want to speak. 0:00:54.476 --> 0:00:56.996 You don't have a right speak. I'm speak, but you 0:00:57.076 --> 0:00:59.436 speaking through your return. No, I'm not gonna speak. I'm 0:00:59.436 --> 0:01:01.556 not gonna cooperate with the pup defenders oppose anymore. So 0:01:01.556 --> 0:01:09.996 that's that's the case. And on that one piece of ship, 0:01:10.636 --> 0:01:13.716 you're a piece of ship, bitch sharks that motherfucker, fucking 0:01:13.876 --> 0:01:17.076 your mama. I think my client is a little over. 0:01:17.556 --> 0:01:24.196 I haven't been accustomed to him. The murder case is 0:01:24.276 --> 0:01:28.156 dragging through pre trial hearings. Routa is a frequent miss out. 0:01:28.756 --> 0:01:31.196 I never know if he'll even show up, or which 0:01:31.316 --> 0:01:35.316 router will show up. He can seem calm and lucid. 0:01:36.356 --> 0:01:39.196 Other times he's out of it. He appears to be 0:01:39.316 --> 0:01:42.476 smiling or laughing, but I can never tell it who 0:01:42.556 --> 0:01:47.476 or at what he stretches, pulls his cheek, yawns. It's 0:01:47.516 --> 0:01:52.156 like watching someone watch a sitcom. I can't see. Then, 0:01:52.276 --> 0:01:56.596 without warning, Hilly rupped his lawyer, a new one every 0:01:56.636 --> 0:02:00.796 several months. Is quote a little punk ass motherfucker, and 0:02:00.876 --> 0:02:06.196 Rotta wants to go proper represent himself. I've wondered a 0:02:06.236 --> 0:02:10.596 lot about his mental state and about his guilt. Could 0:02:10.596 --> 0:02:14.396 this person really have killed Tristan Bodet? What would have 0:02:14.436 --> 0:02:18.356 been his motivation? I've been sending rout of letters in jail, 0:02:18.676 --> 0:02:21.596 googling every name I can find that connects to him, 0:02:21.596 --> 0:02:23.636 trying to find out as much as I can about 0:02:23.676 --> 0:02:27.876 this man who seems to have wanted so badly to disappear. 0:02:29.156 --> 0:02:32.756 And I keep coming back to the same questions. What 0:02:32.916 --> 0:02:35.316 kind of loaner camps out in the hills behind the 0:02:35.356 --> 0:02:39.476 Sheriff's station and why would a hermit wander into a 0:02:39.516 --> 0:02:48.036 campground with a gun? I'm Dana Goodyear and this is 0:02:48.116 --> 0:03:24.796 Lost Hills, episode five, Crazy Horse. All Right, we're ready 0:03:24.956 --> 0:03:30.196 to do this. I'm just gonna go for it. I'm 0:03:30.196 --> 0:03:33.316 standing outside a large complex of attached houses in the 0:03:33.356 --> 0:03:36.796 middle of the sprawling San Fernando Valley. I'm not too 0:03:36.796 --> 0:03:39.236 far from Malibu, just on the other side of the mountains. 0:03:39.516 --> 0:03:43.116 But it's a different world, fast food places and low 0:03:43.156 --> 0:03:47.356 slung housing, the stucco jungle. It's six o'clock at night, 0:03:47.676 --> 0:03:50.436 ninety five degrees. I'm about to knock on the door 0:03:50.436 --> 0:03:53.276 to the unit where I think Lisa Rouda Cook lives. 0:03:53.996 --> 0:04:05.276 Lisa Rouda as in Anthony's sister. Hello, Hi, are you Jerry? No? 0:04:05.396 --> 0:04:08.156 Hold on a second, okay, ye all, Actually I'm trying 0:04:08.156 --> 0:04:10.836 to find Lisa. Okay, one second, Thank you very much. 0:04:12.876 --> 0:04:14.836 I know that Lisa is married to a man named 0:04:14.876 --> 0:04:17.316 Jerry Cook, and they've lived at this address for quite 0:04:17.356 --> 0:04:19.796 some time. She has a good job at a bank, 0:04:20.796 --> 0:04:23.236 and I have a feeling that Anthony and Lisa are 0:04:23.596 --> 0:04:27.036 or were close. At one point, he carried around letters 0:04:27.036 --> 0:04:29.756 from Lisa in his backpack. I found that in some 0:04:29.756 --> 0:04:33.036 old court documents he filed petitioning to get the letters back. 0:04:33.956 --> 0:04:37.756 That detail kills me. So here I am knocking on 0:04:37.796 --> 0:04:45.716 her door. Hi are you Jerry? Please? Okay? Can I 0:04:45.756 --> 0:04:47.556 just tell you who I am? No, I don't need 0:04:47.596 --> 0:04:51.036 to know. I've got Jerry Cook's number, so I try 0:04:51.036 --> 0:04:53.396 calling him from the car, just as a guy with 0:04:53.436 --> 0:05:00.556 a leaflower walks by. Oh, hi is this Jerry, Jerry, 0:05:00.876 --> 0:05:03.196 This is Dana Goodyear. I just was at your door. 0:05:03.316 --> 0:05:06.796 I'm really sorry to have disturbed you. I just I'm 0:05:06.876 --> 0:05:09.476 trying to explain what I'm doing. I've been course sponding 0:05:09.516 --> 0:05:14.436 with Anthony. I've been talking to Oswald and I'm trying 0:05:14.516 --> 0:05:19.316 to learn more about him and his background and his childhood, 0:05:19.476 --> 0:05:22.476 and that's why I'm trying to reach out to you 0:05:22.516 --> 0:05:26.796 and Lisa. Jerry is pretty down on the idea, but 0:05:26.836 --> 0:05:29.196 if Anthony wants him to talk to me, he will. 0:05:29.716 --> 0:05:33.916 I'll just need to get written permission, he says from Anthony. 0:05:34.356 --> 0:05:37.636 That tells me something. Even if these people never show 0:05:37.716 --> 0:05:41.156 up in court or associate publicly with Routa in any way, 0:05:41.276 --> 0:05:45.356 they're still supporting him. But I'm just saying, if Anthony 0:05:45.436 --> 0:05:48.996 tells me in writing, then I'll take a snapshot of 0:05:49.036 --> 0:05:51.116 that and texted to you at this number, and then 0:05:51.116 --> 0:05:55.396 we can talk. They still care what he thinks. Okay, 0:05:55.436 --> 0:05:59.236 thank you very much. And Jerry tells me they all 0:05:59.276 --> 0:06:07.036 think this is a frame job. Ozzie Anthony Rowda's dad 0:06:07.276 --> 0:06:10.716 shows up for almost every hearing. I check his face 0:06:10.796 --> 0:06:14.396 for signs of fatigue. The days when his cheeks are sallow, 0:06:14.636 --> 0:06:16.716 helled not a quick hillo and then hurry off to 0:06:16.756 --> 0:06:20.156 work afterward. But when he's in a good mood, we 0:06:20.236 --> 0:06:22.996 talked for long stretches and I ask him about the 0:06:23.036 --> 0:06:27.916 Anthony Routa. He knows his kid, not the alleged Malibu killer. 0:06:29.356 --> 0:06:31.196 He tells me that Anthony was born at the Big 0:06:31.276 --> 0:06:34.356 Kaiser Hospital in Hollywood. He grew up on the East 0:06:34.396 --> 0:06:38.236 side of Los Angeles in Highland Park before it was gentrified. 0:06:39.596 --> 0:06:43.276 Anthony's the youngest of three kids. Ozzie remembers him as 0:06:43.316 --> 0:06:46.836 shy and neat and meticulously clean. He didn't even get 0:06:46.836 --> 0:06:53.916 dirty playing baseball. He loved cats. These details are so undescriptive. 0:06:54.916 --> 0:06:58.396 I feel like I'm looking at the back of someone's minivan. Anthony, 0:06:58.516 --> 0:07:01.636 his parents and siblings are like those stick figure drawings. 0:07:03.036 --> 0:07:06.636 Is Ozzie withholding or does he just not know? It's 0:07:06.676 --> 0:07:10.956 almost like his youngest son barely registered for him, and 0:07:11.116 --> 0:07:14.116 none of it even begins to explain how Anthony finds 0:07:14.196 --> 0:07:19.716 himself in jail on murder charges. Ozzie says that he 0:07:19.796 --> 0:07:23.196 and Anthony's mom divorced in the late eighties. Then she 0:07:23.316 --> 0:07:26.796 moved the kids to Florida when Anthony was ten or twelve. 0:07:28.236 --> 0:07:32.316 At that point, Ozzie lost track of him completely. When 0:07:32.356 --> 0:07:36.276 Anthony showed up in la again years later, Ozzie says 0:07:36.276 --> 0:07:43.436 he was different, friendless, joyless, sleepless, laughing weirdly all the time. 0:07:44.716 --> 0:07:50.596 His son, but not Hello, Dana. I'm writing in response 0:07:50.636 --> 0:07:52.796 to your letters. I would have written you earlier, but 0:07:52.876 --> 0:07:55.836 the jail staff has been sending back stamps, envelopes, etc. 0:07:57.236 --> 0:08:00.236 In June twenty nineteen, I got my first letter from 0:08:00.276 --> 0:08:04.756 Anthony Rawda. He's careful, always playing close with information about 0:08:04.756 --> 0:08:08.876 his time in Malibu, but he's generous with itineraries accounts 0:08:08.876 --> 0:08:12.476 of a vagabond life. It's kind of a Kerouac hobotale. 0:08:12.676 --> 0:08:17.156 In his telling about twenty years ago, I decided to 0:08:17.236 --> 0:08:19.236 leave my life due to threats on me and my 0:08:19.276 --> 0:08:22.516 family's life. Rata's letters are being read by an actor. 0:08:22.956 --> 0:08:26.436 They've been lately edited for clarity. I packed a backpack 0:08:26.516 --> 0:08:28.796 with no money, and I traveled on foot and car 0:08:28.876 --> 0:08:32.716 rides from Florida to Niagara Falls. After that, he's been 0:08:32.756 --> 0:08:35.836 drifting around for two decades, spending time with homeless and 0:08:35.836 --> 0:08:39.756 transient communities up and down the West Coast. Malibu and 0:08:39.796 --> 0:08:42.956 the nearby San Fernando Valley were a home base. The 0:08:43.076 --> 0:08:46.196 terrain he kept returning to. I did this three times 0:08:46.196 --> 0:08:48.876 and got tired and decided to stop traveling and settle 0:08:48.916 --> 0:08:51.516 in Los Angeles. I did not want to work and 0:08:51.596 --> 0:08:54.356 could not adjust to a stable life, so I decided 0:08:54.516 --> 0:08:59.236 to be homeless. I spent many days and nights on beaches, mountains, etc. 0:08:59.916 --> 0:09:02.676 I have hike parts of the Pacific Crest Trail, traveled 0:09:02.676 --> 0:09:06.276 to Texas and Arizona. I've been in various parts of 0:09:06.316 --> 0:09:09.796 the Santa Monica Mountains. In his first letter, he also 0:09:09.836 --> 0:09:12.316 starts to tell me about his history with law enforcement. 0:09:13.116 --> 0:09:17.076 It goes back years. He has a special hatred for 0:09:17.156 --> 0:09:21.196 the Lost Hills cops. I have a history of being 0:09:21.236 --> 0:09:24.796 assaulted by sheriff's deputies inside jail and by the Lost 0:09:24.876 --> 0:09:28.516 Hills Department. I've tried to sue the sheriffs. I have 0:09:28.636 --> 0:09:31.956 written internal affairs in the past, including the ACLU and 0:09:32.116 --> 0:09:36.716 Amnesty International, but no one helped or even investigated. I 0:09:36.756 --> 0:09:41.356 wrote the county ombuntsmen many times. They usually investigated, but 0:09:41.396 --> 0:09:47.116 the officers protect each other with lies. They're lying now, 0:09:49.316 --> 0:09:51.316 over the course of nine months, I get a total 0:09:51.356 --> 0:09:55.836 of five letters. It's a bumpy correspondence. He accuses me 0:09:55.876 --> 0:09:58.556 of ignoring letters I never received, and letters of mine 0:09:58.636 --> 0:10:02.476 come back unopened. From the erratic rhythm, it seems like 0:10:02.516 --> 0:10:06.196 the Sheriff's department is interfering with the mail. He says 0:10:06.196 --> 0:10:10.396 they're messing with him in other ways, too outraged, for instance, 0:10:10.436 --> 0:10:13.356 that they put him in with the general population. His 0:10:13.556 --> 0:10:15.956 name and face have been all over the news as 0:10:15.956 --> 0:10:21.196 an attempted murderer of two little girls. As far as treatment, 0:10:21.596 --> 0:10:24.076 they refused me a phone call at arrest and tried 0:10:24.076 --> 0:10:26.996 to question me after I asked for an attorney. They 0:10:26.996 --> 0:10:29.636 put me in general population after arrest, even though my 0:10:29.716 --> 0:10:32.756 face was on television. Deputies try to question me about 0:10:32.756 --> 0:10:36.116 my case. They sent back mail with stamps and envelopes. 0:10:36.716 --> 0:10:39.876 They have refused me visits. They sometimes try to smut 0:10:39.956 --> 0:10:42.836 my name among the inmates. I don't want the wrong 0:10:42.876 --> 0:10:44.756 image to be conveyed to people that I am a 0:10:44.796 --> 0:10:48.076 monster benefiting from the hardship of the victims of the case. 0:10:49.436 --> 0:10:53.356 He writes that he's being stonewalled and railroaded, maybe even 0:10:53.356 --> 0:10:56.476 by his own lawyers. I have been wronged by the 0:10:56.556 --> 0:10:59.476 system and other people. I am not a violent person, 0:10:59.556 --> 0:11:01.436 and I would never want to be known as someone 0:11:01.436 --> 0:11:06.716 who would hurt innocent people or children. I try to 0:11:06.796 --> 0:11:09.916 draw him out on other subjects. Tell me about your art, 0:11:09.956 --> 0:11:12.796 I say. He often includes a sketch with his letters. 0:11:13.396 --> 0:11:15.836 I've been writing and sketching since i was eleven or 0:11:15.916 --> 0:11:19.076 twelve years old, and have been complimented over them since then. 0:11:19.796 --> 0:11:23.156 I've been interested in rap hip hop since my teens, 0:11:23.716 --> 0:11:25.636 and it was always a dream to make an album. 0:11:26.556 --> 0:11:32.956 He cites his creative inspirations Elvis, the Three Stooges, Tupac, Edgar, 0:11:32.956 --> 0:11:38.636 Allan Poe, and now me. He sends me a poem. 0:11:39.156 --> 0:11:44.156 It's called lies. It's all about lies, lies surrounding him, 0:11:44.396 --> 0:11:48.876 pain killing him, living a lie for his enemies. One 0:11:48.916 --> 0:11:52.436 pair of line sticks out quote when I opened my 0:11:52.516 --> 0:11:56.676 hands and see blood instead of sweat and dirt. That 0:11:56.796 --> 0:12:00.396 gets me thinking. It's not to be taken literal, he writes. 0:12:01.756 --> 0:12:03.876 He tells me he wanted to be a DJ. That 0:12:03.956 --> 0:12:07.076 didn't work out. Then he submitted a headshot to Central 0:12:07.116 --> 0:12:10.516 Casting in Burbank. He says, he cast in something, but 0:12:10.596 --> 0:12:14.636 the role was canceled. That's as close as I came 0:12:14.676 --> 0:12:18.236 to success. I met Will Chamberlain as a kid, and 0:12:18.316 --> 0:12:22.316 also Richard Pryor in Canada. I did a little looking 0:12:22.356 --> 0:12:25.716 into the television industry there. Once I tried to get 0:12:25.756 --> 0:12:29.116 to the set of Dark Angel just to see Jessica Elba, 0:12:29.836 --> 0:12:31.476 but I don't think it was the right time. I 0:12:31.516 --> 0:12:37.556 didn't see anyone the weird stuff I'd do. He signed 0:12:37.636 --> 0:12:40.396 up for Social Security and got a driver's license. He 0:12:40.476 --> 0:12:43.076 rented a car and drove up to Big Bear and camped. 0:12:43.836 --> 0:12:47.276 He says he reads a lot of anarchist books, Illuminati conspiracies, 0:12:47.396 --> 0:12:53.236 handbooks for outdoor survival, manuals on how to disappear. He 0:12:53.316 --> 0:12:56.516 once made himself a fake press pass. I could make 0:12:56.556 --> 0:13:00.076 birth certificate state ID, which led to the city News 0:13:00.116 --> 0:13:02.996 ID to convince someone I was who I was and 0:13:03.116 --> 0:13:09.276 maybe go to shows and concerts free. His life was 0:13:09.316 --> 0:13:14.516 lonely by design, especially in Malado. I've seen a lot 0:13:14.556 --> 0:13:17.636 of places. The Santa Monica Mountains are beautiful and I 0:13:17.716 --> 0:13:20.636 have a lot of pictures. The fog in the morning 0:13:20.636 --> 0:13:24.316 off Mulholland is very thick. At night. I would take 0:13:24.356 --> 0:13:29.116 pictures with my phone of the colorful flowers. Baby lizards 0:13:29.236 --> 0:13:30.996 used to crawl on me when I was sitting in 0:13:31.036 --> 0:13:35.116 the sun. He did a lot of weird stuff on 0:13:35.156 --> 0:13:39.676 his own, tripping out in nature. I did do some meditation, 0:13:39.756 --> 0:13:42.356 but not a lot. Once I think I had a vision, 0:13:42.436 --> 0:13:45.436 but I don't know. There were no drugs involved. I 0:13:45.476 --> 0:13:48.356 was trying astral projection at the time. It was not 0:13:48.436 --> 0:13:52.356 breathing exercises, but a total relaxation of the body. To me, 0:13:52.436 --> 0:13:57.676 it worked. I've never had a similar experience again. Sometimes 0:13:57.676 --> 0:14:00.476 he was scared, like in the summer of twenty eighteen. 0:14:01.436 --> 0:14:03.396 I heard a lot of gunshots around the time of 0:14:03.396 --> 0:14:06.596 the Boudette killing. I thought I got shot at one night, 0:14:06.636 --> 0:14:09.996 but not sure if it was intentional. I just heard 0:14:10.036 --> 0:14:15.236 the bullets fly by. That's interesting he's claiming he was 0:14:15.276 --> 0:14:19.116 nearly a victim of the Canyon shooter. Is this guy 0:14:19.196 --> 0:14:21.636 messing with me? Or is this some kind of clue 0:14:21.636 --> 0:14:25.516 into his psyche. They closed down the park. I heard 0:14:25.516 --> 0:14:28.676 the sheriff's cruiser sirens a lot during the summer. It 0:14:28.796 --> 0:14:31.076 felt like I was being followed when I was hiking 0:14:31.116 --> 0:14:34.716 because I've seen the same automobiles more than once, so 0:14:34.796 --> 0:14:38.316 I don't know the family had a reward for information, 0:14:38.396 --> 0:14:42.316 yet no one had information leading to my arrest. Well 0:14:42.436 --> 0:14:44.876 that's all for now. I hope I've given you some 0:14:44.956 --> 0:14:49.076 confidence in me and something to build on. I don't 0:14:49.076 --> 0:14:51.876 know about confidence, but there is definitely a lot to 0:14:51.876 --> 0:14:55.556 build on. In his letters, a timeline emerges, and with 0:14:55.636 --> 0:14:58.516 it the beginnings of a narrative. A little flash on 0:14:58.556 --> 0:15:03.276 the stick figures bones. He dropped out of school in 0:15:03.316 --> 0:15:05.876 Tampa in twelfth grade and then spent a couple of 0:15:05.916 --> 0:15:09.716 months in the army. The army turned into a bad experience. 0:15:10.156 --> 0:15:12.556 I joined to get away from personal matters, but when 0:15:12.556 --> 0:15:15.116 I got there for basic training, I could not leave 0:15:15.116 --> 0:15:18.636 my personal behind me and I could not adjust mentally. 0:15:19.716 --> 0:15:22.956 I did complete basic training with good grades and returned 0:15:22.956 --> 0:15:27.516 back to Tampa Bay to worse problems. So he hit 0:15:27.556 --> 0:15:30.516 the road. He didn't really work. The only thing he 0:15:30.516 --> 0:15:32.516 says he did was some kind of private eye work 0:15:32.556 --> 0:15:36.516 called skip tracing, essentially looking for people who don't want 0:15:36.556 --> 0:15:39.676 to be found. I am beginning to think he was 0:15:39.756 --> 0:15:43.636 his own hardest case. He left only the faintest impression 0:15:43.636 --> 0:15:47.236 on the world. That is, until Tristan Boudette was killed. 0:15:49.476 --> 0:15:51.596 I didn't meet a lot of people in the mountains 0:15:51.836 --> 0:15:55.356 where I was arrested, and definitely not in my spot. 0:15:56.876 --> 0:16:00.076 The po boxes he lists as addresses on court documents, 0:16:00.636 --> 0:16:03.676 they don't exist, or there's no record that router rented them. 0:16:04.396 --> 0:16:07.156 The library where he says he spent time. When I 0:16:07.236 --> 0:16:11.036 go there, the librarians just look concerned and shake their heads. 0:16:11.836 --> 0:16:14.636 Where I got arrested, there was no tent. I have 0:16:14.756 --> 0:16:17.796 not used tents in years one, so I can travel 0:16:17.876 --> 0:16:21.996 anytime lightly too, so I can learn to survive outdoors 0:16:21.996 --> 0:16:25.356 with as little as possible. As stated, I do not 0:16:25.516 --> 0:16:28.316 know everything that was there, as I traveled and hiked 0:16:28.356 --> 0:16:30.956 when I wanted. I was in that area less than 0:16:30.996 --> 0:16:35.156 a year. The McDonald's, the grocery store, the other places 0:16:35.156 --> 0:16:38.156 with dumpsters he might have picked through. No one's seen him, 0:16:39.036 --> 0:16:41.196 No one except the owner of the sandwich shop, who 0:16:41.236 --> 0:16:45.316 swears Ratto was hanging around last week. Only he's been 0:16:45.356 --> 0:16:49.516 in jail for a year. In my letters, I plead 0:16:49.556 --> 0:16:52.716 with him to come up with just one name. A cousin, 0:16:52.956 --> 0:16:57.356 a teacher, a childhood friend. He does not comply. My 0:16:57.476 --> 0:17:00.036 family has nothing to do with the crimes I'm charged with. 0:17:00.156 --> 0:17:03.276 And know nothing of the things I'd do. But he 0:17:03.316 --> 0:17:05.716 does give me permission to talk to his sister Lisa 0:17:06.036 --> 0:17:09.956 and her husband Jerry, if you do not floyd them. 0:17:09.996 --> 0:17:12.716 I don't mind you talking to them if they want 0:17:12.796 --> 0:17:15.796 to talk to you. But when I tell Jerry that, 0:17:16.236 --> 0:17:20.436 he declines the interview. Anyway. I find a page on 0:17:20.476 --> 0:17:23.076 Facebook devoted to the high school in Tampa that Rawdah 0:17:23.116 --> 0:17:26.636 attended for a while in the nineties. Someone remembers him. 0:17:27.236 --> 0:17:29.356 It's a guy who says he was friends with Rautah 0:17:29.476 --> 0:17:33.156 in eighth, ninth, and tenth grade. I think I'm finally 0:17:33.196 --> 0:17:36.636 going to get it, that one story that crystallizes who 0:17:36.716 --> 0:17:41.276 Anthony Rawda is and makes sense of everything. So I'm 0:17:41.276 --> 0:17:44.676 all excited, and I ask Tony Tucker, the friend, if 0:17:44.676 --> 0:17:48.516 he has any strong memories of Rauta. To be completely honest, 0:17:48.596 --> 0:17:55.476 I mean, I really don't. Hey was normal. Our group 0:17:55.476 --> 0:17:57.876 of friends were very much kind of the sports kids. 0:17:57.876 --> 0:18:00.436 We didn't mind getting dirty, so we were always there 0:18:00.436 --> 0:18:02.956 early in the morning playing basketball before the bell rang. 0:18:03.076 --> 0:18:06.796 And did he party know, have a girlfriend, a nickname, 0:18:06.836 --> 0:18:10.196 a hard time in school? Not really, no, no more 0:18:10.196 --> 0:18:13.876 than anyone else. But he didn't. I mean seemed like 0:18:13.916 --> 0:18:17.596 a normal every day kid to me. Tony lost track 0:18:17.636 --> 0:18:20.596 of him, and he doesn't even really know why Pooh 0:18:20.956 --> 0:18:29.076 Woosh gone. One day after a hearing, Ozzy comes back 0:18:29.076 --> 0:18:30.996 to the office with me and I walk him through 0:18:31.036 --> 0:18:34.396 some documents that have recently been unsealed. He promises me 0:18:34.476 --> 0:18:37.956 that next time he'll do the recorded interview, but that 0:18:38.076 --> 0:18:42.556 court date comes and he ghosts me. A few days later, 0:18:42.796 --> 0:18:46.636 I opened my last letter from Anthony Rowda. I have 0:18:46.676 --> 0:18:48.836 returned from court and I wish to reply to your 0:18:48.916 --> 0:18:52.476 letter out of courtesy. I no longer trust talking to 0:18:52.516 --> 0:18:56.196 you or other media. I cannot condone or forgive you 0:18:56.316 --> 0:18:59.956 or anyone who personally tries to help law enforcement build 0:18:59.956 --> 0:19:04.116 a case against me or harass me. The letter is short, 0:19:04.276 --> 0:19:08.356 just two pages, a bitter, self pitying rant. I'm no 0:19:08.436 --> 0:19:12.076 help to him, actually probably the opposite, So he's not 0:19:12.116 --> 0:19:15.436 going to help me. God, he's the best judge and 0:19:15.556 --> 0:19:19.796 my only friend, the only one I have to answer to. 0:19:25.156 --> 0:19:40.476 Anthony Rawda is done telling me about himself. Another way 0:19:40.556 --> 0:19:43.956 into the mind of Anthony Rowda is through his music. 0:19:50.676 --> 0:19:53.476 Rowda has cut an EP and two full length albums. 0:19:53.756 --> 0:19:57.116 You can find them on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music 0:19:57.596 --> 0:20:00.916 search up his pen names crazy Horse and crazy Horse 0:20:00.956 --> 0:20:05.316 to one that's Crazy with a K. This is a 0:20:05.356 --> 0:20:08.716 song called kill a Pig from his album The Great 0:20:08.716 --> 0:20:14.516 White Liar. Get Ready to get get ready, get set, 0:20:14.636 --> 0:20:20.796 get going. Let's go kill a fucking cop. Liars, sadus, pedophiles, motherfuckers. 0:20:21.236 --> 0:20:26.076 He's going to get them with his nine millimeter. People up, millimeter, 0:20:26.156 --> 0:20:28.156 put the heater straight, typic dome to see him. If 0:20:28.196 --> 0:20:30.876 they don't yet see that, mother fucking eyes from out 0:20:30.876 --> 0:20:33.036 of the head, now they dead behind in the floor 0:20:33.076 --> 0:20:35.236 of blood. To kill a cop must beat the greatest 0:20:35.236 --> 0:20:37.236 feeling in the world. I want to enjoy it over 0:20:37.276 --> 0:20:40.756 and over again. Year. To kill a cop must be 0:20:40.796 --> 0:20:43.916 the greatest feeling in the world. I want to enjoy 0:20:43.956 --> 0:20:48.716 it over and over again. On his album Covers, Routa 0:20:48.796 --> 0:20:54.156 draws a long haired warrior with high cheekbones emaciated, almost skeletal. 0:20:55.236 --> 0:20:58.476 I'm guessing it's Roudah's idea of a Native American. He 0:20:58.556 --> 0:21:01.836 wears a headband that says crazy horse with a K. 0:21:03.276 --> 0:21:06.476 The original Crazy Horse with a C was an Oglala 0:21:06.556 --> 0:21:09.876 Lakota warrior. He painted his cheek with a lightning bolt 0:21:09.916 --> 0:21:12.996 and wore a hawk feather in his hair. People say 0:21:12.996 --> 0:21:16.196 that whenever someone asked to take his picture, crazy Horse 0:21:16.236 --> 0:21:27.116 would respond, would you imprison my shadow? Also this is 0:21:27.156 --> 0:21:30.676 the song fall Guy from Rouda's first album Sometimes They 0:21:30.756 --> 0:21:39.996 Come Back, which he made in twenty thirteen Satellites. As 0:21:40.036 --> 0:21:43.676 best I can make out, the lyrics are paranoia, conspiracy, theory, 0:21:43.956 --> 0:21:50.476 cia Manchurian candidacy, my anxiety, something something on database, satellite 0:21:50.476 --> 0:21:53.996 in space, something something they want to make me the 0:21:54.036 --> 0:21:58.436 fall guy, lise or assholes. Then later look at my 0:21:58.436 --> 0:22:01.316 middle finger. I'm the fall guy middle finger up in 0:22:01.316 --> 0:22:10.476 the sky the same. In one of his letters, Rada 0:22:10.516 --> 0:22:13.356 says he taught himself to use recording software and wrote 0:22:13.356 --> 0:22:16.316 both albums on a laptop. Each one took him about 0:22:16.316 --> 0:22:21.556 a month. I used hotels and sometimes the library, Calabasas 0:22:22.236 --> 0:22:25.876 and any mall with Wi Fi and electrical outlets. The 0:22:25.876 --> 0:22:29.556 themes of both albums center around police and harassment, drinking 0:22:29.556 --> 0:22:32.956 and getting fucked up, and violence, a fair amount of violence, 0:22:33.516 --> 0:22:37.356 avenging himself on cops, women and undefined others out to 0:22:37.396 --> 0:22:40.556 get him. He almost seems to be psyching himself up 0:22:40.556 --> 0:22:44.036 for a confrontation. His music hits on all the gangs 0:22:44.036 --> 0:22:46.876 to rap cliches. But there's something else in there too, 0:22:47.356 --> 0:22:51.956 a worldview, maybe even a cosmology. This is the opening 0:22:51.956 --> 0:23:00.116 track from his album The Great White Liar. He'll be 0:23:00.196 --> 0:23:02.876 others in slaveries, a freedom, a freeze, put the eight 0:23:02.956 --> 0:23:06.276 that grows in the unrooted in justice. He's saying, I'm 0:23:06.396 --> 0:23:09.876 rooted in justice. I murdered the serpent. He grew wings 0:23:09.956 --> 0:23:12.796 like a phoenix. I shot him from the sky, pulled 0:23:12.796 --> 0:23:16.276 out his spine, his true, fake mind. So he found 0:23:16.316 --> 0:23:20.716 it a nation built on lies. It's a glimpse into 0:23:20.756 --> 0:23:24.996 a chaotic mind, the mind of a paranoid, self righteous, 0:23:25.516 --> 0:23:42.116 pissed off mystic. I've been trying to find rowda trace 0:23:42.276 --> 0:23:46.716 his ghostly presence in the world. Didn't anyone know him, 0:23:47.356 --> 0:23:52.236 hadn't anyone seen him? Thinking about the case, it occurs 0:23:52.276 --> 0:23:54.876 to me that there are some people around Malibu who 0:23:54.956 --> 0:23:58.596 do think they saw him on security cameras while he 0:23:58.716 --> 0:24:05.156 was allegedly committing armed burglaries. Which is how I find 0:24:05.236 --> 0:24:08.676 myself with Jim Corcus and Mike McNutt, who worked for 0:24:08.716 --> 0:24:16.636 the local water district. I'll give you my theory. That's Jim. 0:24:17.676 --> 0:24:21.396 We're driving over to the Tapia Water Reclamation facility. It's 0:24:21.476 --> 0:24:25.116 right next to Tapia Park, not far from where Jimmy 0:24:25.196 --> 0:24:28.436 Rogers was shot. So I think he'd been living off 0:24:28.516 --> 0:24:32.516 the coolers in the campsite for all these years, and 0:24:32.716 --> 0:24:36.876 once he shot Tristan, they closed the park and his 0:24:37.116 --> 0:24:40.716 basically his lunchbox was empty at that point because he 0:24:40.836 --> 0:24:44.276 had no source of food, and that's when he got 0:24:44.356 --> 0:24:47.996 desperate to look around. It's here that in the fall 0:24:48.036 --> 0:24:51.116 of twenty eighteen, a man in black was caught on 0:24:51.276 --> 0:24:54.396 camera in the middle of the night. What would you 0:24:54.476 --> 0:24:59.036 normally be looking at on these camerasbcat and pumas. We'll 0:24:59.076 --> 0:25:02.236 say that we did have we did have a We 0:25:02.356 --> 0:25:04.836 do have another patrol in the area. We call it 0:25:04.956 --> 0:25:08.156 the Puma Patrol, or a P fifty four. So we 0:25:08.236 --> 0:25:10.476 had a Mountain Lion and that was like hanging out 0:25:10.636 --> 0:25:13.156 and checking things out, tagged and everything like that. So 0:25:14.036 --> 0:25:16.756 but P. Fifty four is off on those evenings that 0:25:17.036 --> 0:25:20.756 he was here. So they tell me that strange things 0:25:20.796 --> 0:25:24.876 had been happening around the plant. There had been other 0:25:25.076 --> 0:25:28.876 times where employees were noticing that some of their food 0:25:29.076 --> 0:25:32.476 is missing, and so a lot of the employees is saying, Oh, 0:25:32.556 --> 0:25:37.716 it's just somebody eating my lunch or whatever. Right, the 0:25:37.836 --> 0:25:41.196 first break in, he was pretty good. How he got in. 0:25:41.956 --> 0:25:45.676 It was undetected, really, and so he got in and 0:25:46.636 --> 0:25:50.196 he was like stealing chicken sandwiches and everything he took 0:25:50.316 --> 0:25:53.036 was protein based. One of the other things that I 0:25:53.276 --> 0:25:54.876 was told that he was taking a stuff that he 0:25:54.956 --> 0:25:57.716 didn't need to cook. I know for sure. One of 0:25:57.796 --> 0:26:03.396 his favorites was Jimmy Dean's breakfast sausage sandwiches. They reviewed 0:26:03.396 --> 0:26:06.516 the footage from the security camera and that's when they 0:26:06.556 --> 0:26:11.116 saw the man. He looked for battle. Yeah. So he 0:26:11.196 --> 0:26:15.996 had like almost like black camo attire on and tactical gear. Right, 0:26:16.276 --> 0:26:18.796 his boots, you know, his pants were bloused. In his boots, 0:26:18.836 --> 0:26:21.476 he had high you know, boots at half you know, 0:26:21.516 --> 0:26:24.996 halfway up his calf. This is Brett Dingman, a manager 0:26:25.076 --> 0:26:28.396 at the plant. Everything was black. He had a backpack, 0:26:28.596 --> 0:26:33.116 he had a what you called balajava a mask. You know. 0:26:33.356 --> 0:26:37.596 He just looked like almost like military. Jim scrolls through 0:26:37.596 --> 0:26:40.676 his phone and finds the video. It shows a man 0:26:40.756 --> 0:26:43.476 with a headlamp stealthily making his way to the door 0:26:43.516 --> 0:26:49.116 of the plant. It's a creepy video. A few seconds 0:26:49.196 --> 0:26:54.716 that loop over and over, and it's totally captivating. If 0:26:54.756 --> 0:26:57.596 this is Rauta on the tape, it's the closest I'll 0:26:57.636 --> 0:27:02.436 ever get to seeing him in his element, Rauta alone 0:27:03.556 --> 0:27:13.476 in the night, surrounded by woods, scavenging, hunting, surviving, Rauda 0:27:13.796 --> 0:27:19.876 in the wild. Jim slows the video down so I 0:27:19.916 --> 0:27:22.556 can clearly see something sticking out from behind the man. 0:27:23.196 --> 0:27:26.356 So it was it was around slung around his waist 0:27:26.436 --> 0:27:29.036 here with the barrel pointing backwards, okay, And you can 0:27:29.076 --> 0:27:33.156