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Speaker 2: about whatever it was that we saw at Wembley Stadium yesterday.

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned, it was a blowout at Wembley Stadium

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Speaker 2: in London and that was troubling, to say the least.

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Speaker 2: One positive from the day, we're gonna say Travis Hunter

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Speaker 2: got his first touchdown. We saw a little bit of

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Speaker 2: what he can do on offense finally, which has been exciting.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna keep it real with you as we always do,

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Speaker 2: and we'll answer some of your fan questions because I

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Speaker 2: think there's a lot of them as we head into

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Speaker 2: the bye week. So I want to welcome to CBS

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Speaker 2: Sports senior writer Pete Prisco. Austin Lane's gonna join us

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Speaker 2: a little bit later. Butte, you had to get up

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Speaker 2: early and watch it in the morning on Sunday, and

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Speaker 2: it looked looked a little sleepy to start, and it

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Speaker 2: didn't get much better after that. For the Jaguars, it

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Speaker 2: was bad.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was really bad.

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Speaker 4: And I thought they would come out and at least

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Speaker 4: show some fight.

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Speaker 3: That's a good RAMS team, by the way, it really is.

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Speaker 3: It's a good Rams team.

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Speaker 4: But they just didn't do anything, and I was disappointed

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Speaker 4: right from the get go on.

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Speaker 3: The offensive performance was awful, you know, and we got

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Speaker 3: a lot to get into. But you know, the quarterback

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Speaker 3: is becoming a problem, I think.

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Speaker 4: And it wasn't awful, but when you're that guy, you're

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Speaker 4: supposed to be above that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're supposed to.

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Speaker 4: Be better than that, right, I mean, he's to me,

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Speaker 4: I there's and we'll get into some of the plays,

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Speaker 4: but he passes on opportunities down the field. I think

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Speaker 4: he leaves some clean pockets and there's no rhythm to

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Speaker 4: the offense. They have pre stat penalties, they drop passes,

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Speaker 4: you know, Brian Thomas Junior's a problem, and all in all,

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Speaker 4: it's just not a good look on the offensive side

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Speaker 4: of the football right now.

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Speaker 2: And for a team that we thought was going to

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Speaker 2: be explosive on offense coming to with Liam Cohen going

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Speaker 2: up against obviously a mentor a former coach he worked

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Speaker 2: with in Sean McVay. I was leary of this matchup anyway,

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Speaker 2: but to be that cold coming out, and I think

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Speaker 2: we just talked about this before the show started. That

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Speaker 2: first play out of the gate, you see Travis Hunter

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Speaker 2: wide open, Trevor looks like he goes through maybe two

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Speaker 2: reads and then the guy's right on him. But throw

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Speaker 2: the ball. And he said so as much after the

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Speaker 2: game when the press was asking him questions after he said,

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Speaker 2: I missed that play myself. But if you're coming out

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Speaker 2: in the first play, that's tough. And then also just

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Speaker 2: having the confidence in your quarterback right off the gate,

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Speaker 2: like oh, maybe he's not ready either. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: See he's trying to throw to Brian Thomas there, but

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Speaker 4: he's got to stay there because he can clearly see

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Speaker 3: That little quick throw to Travis Hunter. That's easy. There

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Speaker 4: There's one he tried a short throw to Brian Thomas

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Speaker 3: It was a quick, you know, throw to the.

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Speaker 4: Sideline where they did it in and out and he's

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Speaker 4: got Travis Hunter standing right there for nobody's near him,

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Speaker 4: and he doesn't and he doesn't throw to him. There's

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Speaker 4: also a play where okay, the one where Brian.

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Speaker 3: Thomas Junior dropped it in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 4: That's that's that's a good throw, should be a catch,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys saw it in the stadium,

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Speaker 4: I watched the tape that they started jumping around frustrated

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Speaker 4: he checked it down to Travis. Et added is batted

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Speaker 3: Get to the better play than the easier play.

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Speaker 4: And by that, I mean it's easy to take that

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Speaker 4: quick throw to the outside, but you know, sometimes you

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Speaker 3: So I just it was unsettling yesterday to watch that offense.

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Speaker 3: It really was.

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Speaker 2: Pete Austin Lane's in with us now. Austin we're just

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Speaker 2: talking a little bit about a lot of stuff to

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Speaker 2: get to because there's a lot of stuff we didn't

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Speaker 2: love to see yesterday, but some of the decision making

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Speaker 2: on him because I know there's plenty of blame to

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Speaker 5: You can see, Yeah, you know, I think listen, I

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Speaker 5: don't go on social media a lot, right, but there's

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Speaker 5: but there's a civil war right now going on between

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Speaker 5: is Trevor Lawrence the guy or not? Right? I think

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Speaker 5: a lot of the narrative is, okay, well, guys are

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Speaker 5: dropping balls, right the offensive line is not blockingly they're

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Speaker 5: supposed to, and I agree with all of that, But

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Speaker 5: I think the conversation we have to have now is

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Speaker 5: is Trevor Lawrence capable of elevating the guys around him?

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Speaker 5: And right now, right now, I don't think he is.

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Speaker 5: And if you look at how much he's making, and

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Speaker 5: it's not about the money. Sometimes you've probably attested to this,

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Speaker 5: but it's what the money says, right, and the money

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Speaker 5: says right now, he's getting paid top five in the league.

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Speaker 5: That's Jared goff Numbers, that's Dak Prescott, that's Patch Mahomes,

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Speaker 5: I think those guys I just mentioned are capable of

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Speaker 5: elevating their team when things aren't going right, when offensive

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Speaker 5: lines aren't blocking, when guys are dropping balls. I think

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Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence right now isn't in that category. And until

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Speaker 5: he is, he's gonna need the offensive line to block

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Speaker 4: And you know, Austin, I watched the tape today and

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Speaker 4: there are so many opportunities for him that he passes

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Speaker 4: up on that I don't understand and and I don't

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Speaker 4: down to the line of scrimmage on the second or fourteen.

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Speaker 4: He's got two corner routes against cover two, so you

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Speaker 3: The corners haven't sunk far enough. So if you can

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Speaker 3: hold one of, you know, hold the safety a little,

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Speaker 3: you can put it on the you know, put it

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Speaker 3: to the He didn't. He passed on him, took the checkdown,

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Speaker 3: you know he had. There was an in and out

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Speaker 3: route with with Brian Thomas lined up inside it. Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 3: Thomas ran the out, Hunter ran the in. He's wide open.

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Speaker 3: He throws the travel to Brian Thomas on the side.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's just so many things right now that

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Speaker 4: he's missing, and you can't do.

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Speaker 3: That in this league. You know that. And you've mentioned

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Speaker 3: the money.

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Speaker 4: Look, they paid him, they thought he was a franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 4: and he's the elevating everybody else.

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Speaker 3: No, I agree with you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: And so that's where the sticking point is, and that's

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Speaker 4: why people are pushing back now on whether he's the problem.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's the entire problem, by the way.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can't get into a rhythm on this

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Speaker 3: So it just adds to the frustration.

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Speaker 4: But he's got to be better than he is well,

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Speaker 4: and at some point they got to wonder if they

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Speaker 4: have an issue on their hands with their quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And here's the thing, and I get it. I'm not

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Speaker 5: making up excuses for the offensive line not doing their part.

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Speaker 5: You know, the running game was really nonexistent, even though

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Speaker 5: I felt like you know, etn and there's more. You know,

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Speaker 5: it was kind of garbage time. But I question in

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Speaker 5: terms of what the game plan was going into that game,

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Speaker 5: because so far we've seen when they run the football

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Speaker 5: they're successful. If defense is shut the run game down.

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Speaker 5: You can't rely on Trevor's arm and this passing offense

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Speaker 5: to get the job done. And it's as simple as that.

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Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is both things can be true here, Pete.

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Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence right now doesn't have the capabilities to elevate

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Speaker 5: the guys around him, and he's getting no help in

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Speaker 5: terms of offensive line, in terms of wide receivers and

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Speaker 5: then drops everything like that, Like, both things can be true,

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Speaker 5: and that's what people don't realize. Like everyone wants to

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Speaker 5: take one side and stick on that side, and that's

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Speaker 5: not how it has to be. But the fact of

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Speaker 5: the matter is is he's getting paid like a high caliber,

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Speaker 5: elite quarterback in this league, and right now he's not

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Speaker 5: playing like it.

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk a little bit about the drops later on,

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Speaker 2: but offensive line play has dropped off very quickly. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that's just injury based or what's going on, Pete.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you get dream based.

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Speaker 4: I think the right right guard has become a problem.

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Speaker 4: McCarry has become a prim They paid him money to

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Speaker 4: come in there and be the right guard in the

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Speaker 4: last three four game, three games not been very good.

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Speaker 4: He was terrible on Sunday and he was the main problem.

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Speaker 4: Now Little two weeks ago was terrible and in fact,

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Speaker 4: the whole last week, by the way, we didn't have

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Speaker 4: a show.

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Speaker 2: You haven't had a chance to get in on.

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Speaker 4: The Seattle game was one of the worst offensive line

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Speaker 4: performances I've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: They were awful. And you know who the best one

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Speaker 3: was the rookie center was the best time. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: And so they were terrible yesterday it was McCarry was bad.

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Speaker 4: Harrison didn't have a great game, and I don't know

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Speaker 4: if that's bleeding over from him being there next to

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Speaker 4: him and Little had he struggled like he did two

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Speaker 4: weeks ago. But I think, you know, the right guard,

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Speaker 4: they might need to look at making a change there.

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Speaker 4: And sounds crazy, and I know it's early in the season,

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Speaker 4: but the last two weeks have been really bad for him.

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Speaker 5: You're not wrong, but I think the question has to

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Speaker 5: be then. I mean, because it's not just the right guard.

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Speaker 5: The entire offensive line right now is a little porous.

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Speaker 4: You know when you look at Trevor, Trevor doesn't ever

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Speaker 3: Because it's a very complicated offense.

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Speaker 4: It is, And I talked to Baker Mayfield about that

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Speaker 5: And I agree with you, Pete, I agree with you

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Speaker 5: I think they have a lot of the same characteristics.

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Speaker 5: You don't necessarily see that with Trevor not saying that's

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Speaker 4: It's about getting I called fire into belly. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I was talking to somebody in the league and they

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's just I think than some of the yeah Fyers

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Speaker 2: I think I can see that as well. And I

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Speaker 4: Look at you, you had four hours of sleep and

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Speaker 4: You know that you've traveled across the country to play games.

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Speaker 5: the end of the day, that's that's not what happened.

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Speaker 5: That's not why they they look like they look like

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Speaker 5: right like. And now I'm sure team's gonna be like, well,

438
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Speaker 5: look what the Rams did. Now we have to copy

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Speaker 5: that whole thing. No, that's that's not the case at all.

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Speaker 5: It's just I think one team played sound football and

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Speaker 5: and one team just looked looked a little more laxadaisical

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Speaker 5: and and didn't do their job like they're supposed to.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's the other part of that equation, though, the Rams,

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Speaker 4: when they play an East Coast game travel what five hours?

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Speaker 3: It is probably, isn't it? Yeah? Five six hours?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so if there they stayed on the East Coast,

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Speaker 4: they after play in the Ravens, So that was a

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Speaker 4: normal road trip for them when they like going when

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Speaker 4: they go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it wasn't any different, So it made sense

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Speaker 3: for them to do it that way. I didn't. I

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Speaker 3: didn't mind that at all, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 3: But I'm with Austin.

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Speaker 4: Look, whether you go early, or go or go the

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Speaker 4: night before the game or whatever, once you get out

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Speaker 4: on the field, you go play.

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Speaker 3: You can't you know, our legs. Did anybody say their

458
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Speaker 3: legs weren't there?

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Speaker 4: Didn hear that?

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Speaker 3: You know? I mean, so I don't. I don't. They

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Speaker 3: can't use that as an excuse at all.

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Speaker 2: I think travel is always kind of the excuse when

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Speaker 2: you don't play the way you want way you want

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Speaker 2: to play, but I don't think it came down to

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Speaker 2: that either. I did want to mention. We talked a

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Speaker 2: little bit about penalties. Thirteen accepted penalties, I think sixteen

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Speaker 2: overall one hundred and nineteen yards. And for me, we

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Speaker 2: see we've seen a bunch of ones on offense where

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe they're in motion, what's going on. Also,

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Speaker 2: we'll touch on that a little bit later because the

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Speaker 2: wide receiver screaming at the We got Parker and Travis

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Speaker 2: Hunter last weeks screaming at the RAF about whether they

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Speaker 2: lined up correctly. They got to figure that out. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But this week we saw a bunch of defensive penalties Pete,

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Speaker 2: which is I know they getting beat some of the time,

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Speaker 2: but you got Dewey Jordan Lewis. I think they had

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Speaker 2: the one sack they had got called off because of

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Speaker 2: offside or holding. I can't remember the exactly this. It's

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Speaker 2: just out of character. And I bit this one was

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Speaker 2: tough on doing. I don't really know what that wasn't

481
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Speaker 2: really that, but his next one was and I think

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Speaker 2: you know Lows getting beat. I think get two on

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Speaker 2: one play that's a little bit out of characteristic and

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Speaker 2: I think we've seen the defense look a lot different

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Speaker 2: since they haven't been getting takeaways, and maybe without Devin

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Speaker 2: Lloyd as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't know if that was because of

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Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd. Look, Devin Lloyd's made some big plays, but look,

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Speaker 3: even the Chiefs game, he made a great play, but

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Speaker 3: it wasn't great in that game.

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Speaker 4: I think when you get takeaways like they got him,

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Speaker 4: and remember they went to almost went to a super

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Speaker 4: Bowl with the defense, I got a ton of takeaways

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Speaker 4: and really wasn't that good. When you get takeaways at times,

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Speaker 4: it kind of masks.

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Speaker 3: Who you are as a defense. It covers it up.

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Speaker 4: And now we have seen what the last two weeks,

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Speaker 4: they haven't had a takeaway and we've seen what they

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Speaker 4: look like. Yeah, you know, guys in the secondary had

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Speaker 4: their worst games on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: You know, Winger was awful and forget about that penalty

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Speaker 3: in the end zone. And I came out.

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Speaker 4: Remember earlier this season, Austin what I said, I thought

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Speaker 4: he was the most improved player on.

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Speaker 5: The Yeah, I mean I was with you, man. I

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Speaker 5: thought it was that the last kind of like the

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Speaker 5: feel good story of the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: Yes, last couple of weeks not so good. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: Jordan Lewis had hit by far and away his worst game.

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Speaker 4: On Sunday he did and so and here's the other

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Speaker 4: part of that equation. Why the hell isn't Travis Hunter

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Speaker 4: playing corner?

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Speaker 2: I thought you had the answer, Peede. I came into this.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Petele, know what's going on because also.

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Speaker 3: Here's my theory on it.

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Speaker 4: And nobody's told me this, but well, they said it

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Speaker 4: at times during the leading up to the process. But

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Speaker 4: they need him so much on offense that they're reluctant

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Speaker 4: to use him all those plays on defense that.

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Speaker 2: You're down twenty one to nothing, it doesn't matter like

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Speaker 2: they're getting cooked. They needed him out there.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, against Seattle, against Kansas City, he

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Speaker 4: was their best corner and it wasn't even close.

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Speaker 2: He is still the best corner on this roster and

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Speaker 2: he has.

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Speaker 3: To play corner. I would play m a corner and

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Speaker 3: then using wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: Here's the part of the problem that's thrown into the

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Speaker 4: whole mix and why he's being used on offense as

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Speaker 4: much as he is.

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Speaker 3: Brian Thomas, there's your problem right there. Yeah, that's the issue.

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Speaker 5: When we talk about Travis Hunter, and I was I

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Speaker 5: said this week one, and I was afraid it was

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Speaker 5: going to be a problem, but you kept on winning

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Speaker 5: football games, so it was kind of pushed off to

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Speaker 5: the side. Now you're losing in this fashion, now it

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Speaker 5: gets brought back to the table. The usage of Travis

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Speaker 5: Hunter is an issue right now. And I understand that

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Speaker 5: maybe you want to keep things a little under wraps

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Speaker 5: because you feel like it's a competitive advantage. But at

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Speaker 5: some point there has to be some sort of semblance

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Speaker 5: of he's gonna play this much on offense and this

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Speaker 5: much on defense, not for the media or not for

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Speaker 5: me at home to know, Okay, this is how it's

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Speaker 5: gonna look. I think just for him, Pete, because if

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Speaker 5: he doesn't have the touchdown yesterday, if he doesn't get

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Speaker 5: all the targets in the second half, I think we

548
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Speaker 5: were this close to having maybe a little bit of

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Speaker 5: a Twitter meltdown or or you know, like a twitch

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Speaker 5: stream meltdown, because he looked frustrated yesterday. I think some

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Speaker 5: of that it's him not playing defense. I think some

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Speaker 5: of that it seem not getting the ball in the

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Speaker 5: first half, but it looked like a player who was

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Speaker 5: this close to saying what are we doing here? And

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Speaker 5: I think if it was a guy like Malik Neighbors,

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Speaker 5: if it was a guy like Jamar Chase or somebody

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Speaker 5: like that with more of a you know, a diva

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Speaker 5: type of persona, I think we would have heard this

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Speaker 5: long ago. But I think Travis Hunter, being as humble

560
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Speaker 5: and fun loving as he is, being the ultimate team player,

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Speaker 5: we've heard nothing out of him. I think we're getting

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Speaker 5: close to hearing something out of him. But thankfully he

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Speaker 5: got the target's second half and he got the touchdown.

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Speaker 4: I was telling Kay, but when we were watching the

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Speaker 4: tape today, there's the play that Brian Thomas Junior dropped

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Speaker 4: in the middle of the field, and on that play,

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Speaker 4: Travis Hunter is clearing for what should have been a

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Speaker 4: touchdown if he you can't fault it was I think

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Speaker 4: it was third down when.

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Speaker 3: He dropped it. So you're taking you're taking what you

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Speaker 3: have there and that should have been a catch. Keep

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Speaker 3: the chains moving and go.

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Speaker 4: But Hunter didn't get the ball, and then he saw

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Speaker 4: the drop and you could see his frustration as he

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Speaker 4: kind of skipped across field and he was kind of

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Speaker 4: waving his arms and he was frustrated, and he should be.

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Speaker 3: I love him on offense.

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Speaker 4: I think he's great on offense, but he's a ten

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Speaker 4: times better corner than he is a wide receiver. Just

580
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Speaker 4: so happens that Brian Thomas Junior not getting it done

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Speaker 4: and for whatever reason, he's just not getting it done.

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Speaker 3: The other guys. Look the Emmy Brown.

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Speaker 4: He's a guy Parker Washington, good football player, but should

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Speaker 4: be a third receiver or fourth receiver, And so they

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Speaker 4: have to use Travis Hunter on offense. And that's why

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Speaker 4: I think he's not playing as much defense.

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Speaker 5: So you mentioned that one play to Brian Salmas Junior.

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Speaker 5: I think another player that stood out to me was there,

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Speaker 5: probably like at the Rams, maybe thirty or twenty yard

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Speaker 5: line or whatever. And Trevor throws the Travis. It's a

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Speaker 5: little high, he gets one hand and it can't make

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Speaker 5: the completion. It was a bad throw. And then he

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Speaker 5: gets helmet. I'm sorry, he gets grass in his helmet

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Speaker 5: and you see him run towards the huddle and Trevor's

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Speaker 5: trying to pull the grass off his helmet. Watch the

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Speaker 5: reaction to Travis Hunter in that situation. Because because I've

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Speaker 5: been there and listen and it's something that goes like,

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Speaker 5: you know, so under wraps or whatever. But I've been there,

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Speaker 5: if a teammate's gonna help me out, a gay man

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Speaker 5: appreciate you, there's nothing doing. He stands like, man, don't

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Speaker 5: touch me right now.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: That's that's what it looked like. So I think you

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Speaker 5: have a guy who's obviously frustrated. I think you can

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Speaker 5: curb some of that frustration of how he's being used

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Speaker 5: by being completely upfront. Listen, we've never seen this before.

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Speaker 5: You're playing this much on offense and playing this much

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Speaker 5: on defense. I think if you established that and we

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Speaker 5: don't have to know it Pete, but I don't think

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Speaker 5: he knows it either.

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Speaker 2: Right now, and it changes week to week. And I'm

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Speaker 2: sure that's frustrating for him as well, because he wants

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Speaker 2: to be out there as much as he can. But

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Speaker 2: to go from playing sign you know, I think he

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Speaker 2: had so sixty seven offensive snaps the most we've seen

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Speaker 2: of him, only fourteen on defense. We can see him

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Speaker 2: until the third quarter after they were down twenty one

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Speaker 2: nothing at that point. So I think consistency all around,

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Speaker 2: maybe taking some time on this by week and figuring

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Speaker 2: out exactly what they want him to look like is

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Speaker 2: a good idea. We've got a ton more to come

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Speaker 2: up here on Happy Hour, of course, we're going to

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Speaker 2: talk more about these drops from the wide receivers what

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Speaker 2: they can do to get Travis Hunter more involved on

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Speaker 2: both sides of the football. This is Jaguars Happy Our

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Speaker 2: presentage by j at Homelans.

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Speaker 7: We just have to go out there and performing we

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Speaker 7: need to. We have to go out there and play

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Speaker 7: the position that we played far as the drops, and

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Speaker 7: have to be on the same page and able to

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Speaker 7: communicate at the end of the day. I think even

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Speaker 7: with the penalties, that's something that you can easily fix,

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Speaker 7: easily clean up. But it's been repetitive.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. We got to figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Execution and issue drops an issue Kai and for j P.

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Speaker 2: Today Austin lane P Prisco with me on Happy Hour

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Speaker 2: in Hyndai Studios, So we talked a little bit about

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Speaker 2: Trevor and some of the issues we saw out of him.

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Speaker 2: But Austin, these drops are getting I mean, we've talked

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Speaker 2: about it. It's communication on both sides and it's trust

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Speaker 2: on both sides. I think we talk a lot about

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Speaker 2: earning the trust to Trevor Lawrence. But I don't know

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Speaker 2: if these wide receivers have full trust in Trevor, And

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Speaker 2: that to me is more telling than other things. They're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: they don't want to go over the middle and whatnot,

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Speaker 2: But like I feel a little bit more like maybe

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Speaker 2: they're not trusting the balls going to be in the

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Speaker 2: right place or they're being put in the best position either.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, obviously Brian Thomas Junior is the biggest

650
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Speaker 5: culprit right now when we talk about the drops and everything.

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Speaker 5: But you saw with Parker Washington.

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Speaker 2: Too, and you come around as well, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you go back to the first quarter of Parker

654
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 5: Washington across the middle. You know, the ball's a little high,

655
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 5: Washington gets hit and all of a sudden it's like, okay,

656
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 5: well let's go back to that play again. What happens

657
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 5: and then he drops it. So this is a lingering

658
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 5: problem right now. And listen, I wish I had the

659
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 5: solution for it. I mean, I can't believe around the conversation,

660
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 5: but I think with Brian Thomas Junior, he has stopped

661
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 5: running across the middle, like it's just not going to work.

662
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 5: And I had, you know, I give Liam Cohen credit

663
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 5: for trying to get him out of the funk, trying

664
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 5: to get him more confidence. But I don't know how

665
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 5: many weeks in a row. Now we're talking about how

666
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 5: many drops. We're talking about now where when Brian Thomas

667
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 5: Junior goes across the middle, it's not going to work.

668
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 5: And at some point if that ask the question, if

669
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 5: you know whether you can tailor make plays on the

670
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 5: outside for Brian's I'm a junior, or you get to

671
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 5: find somebody else, because it's an issue right now, and

672
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 5: it's an issue when you know it's third down, when

673
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 5: when you need it, And this is when the drops

674
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: are happening.

675
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: I remember when I was there a training camp and

676
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: talking to the people in the building and even Liam

677
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: Comb said it. I mean, they were not catching the

678
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 4: football and they were concerned. He wasn't catching fifty to

679
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 4: fifty balls. He was dropping a lot of passes and

680
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 4: they couldn't figure out.

681
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: They still can't figure out why how can a kid

682
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: go from what he was a year ago? And by

683
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: the way, I was on.

684
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: The podium screaming loud, this kid's going to be the star,

685
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: one of the star receivers in this League.

686
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: I thought he was going.

687
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 4: To chase Jeffersonville and he's not even close.

688
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: And I don't know why. I don't understand it. You know,

689
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a matter of just getting hit

690
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 3: in that Pittsburgh game. That was a big hit, yeah,

691
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: but it's more than that.

692
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: And it was before that too, cause you mentioned is

693
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: this was trained.

694
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: I remember in Miami at the at the workouts down there,

695
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 4: they were he was remember he had a good practice

696
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 4: and they were like, finally, why though, And you know,

697
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: Jimmy Smith, who played in Jacksonville, is a borderline Hall

698
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 4: of Famer.

699
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: Some people think he should be in. That's a whole

700
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: nother question. But and you know, Jimmy, Jimmy is killing ban.

701
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 4: Is just and and not just and for little things.

702
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 4: He says his stance is too high. He says he's

703
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 4: the last one off the ball. And I went back

704
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 4: and watched it. He's not fast off out of his stands.

705
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: He's just not.

706
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 4: And I noticed there are times where he almost looks

707
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 4: like he's gliding rather than running his route.

708
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: That's not not low thing.

709
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 4: But because it's hard to get a gauge on a

710
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 4: guy that makes it look easy at times when he's running.

711
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: And then the drops, I mean the balls on the

712
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: sideline where he had in his hands that won ball,

713
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: you got to catch that.

714
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 4: It wasn't a great decision, won a great throw, but

715
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 4: you still got to go.

716
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: A great receiver goes up and catches that ball. He

717
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: didn't catch it.

718
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 4: You know those are and then the easy one in

719
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 4: the middle, Come on, that's you got to make that play.

720
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 5: It's just it.

721
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: I've never seen a guy go from where I thought

722
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,239
Speaker 3: he was going to what he is now and what

723
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: he is now. If you had to rank their receivers

724
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: right now, where's he rank?

725
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 5: I mean one? I have Parker Washington ahead of him

726
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 5: right now.

727
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: Maybe three, I mean yeah.

728
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 5: Possibly the obviously Travis Hunter is ahead of him. I

729
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 5: think in terms, I.

730
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: Thought he might be in the league by the end,

731
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: by this time during the season. Same what we saw

732
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: last year was unreal. What happened?

733
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, no, somebody needs to go to him and

734
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 4: tell him, get your head out of your butt and go.

735
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: It's time to go. But you have star power, dude.

736
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 5: But Pete, this is where I think the accountability and

737
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 5: the coaching has to come into play here. Like if

738
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 5: you say that he's the last off the line in

739
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 5: terms of his stance. If you say, you know, he's

740
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 5: got bad technique out of his breaks, If we're saying

741
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 5: obviously there's not a focus in terms of catching the football,

742
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 5: then coaches got to step up and start holding people accountable,

743
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 5: right I remember. I remember going to Detroit when I

744
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 5: played there for a couple of weeks and being an

745
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 5: absolute awe of Calvin Johnson. Calvin Johnson freak of nature,

746
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 5: runs whatever a four three forty six'. Five BUT i

747
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 5: was surprised of how much he worked at his craft

748
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 5: even later on in his. Career right like, That this

749
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 5: was a GUY i felt, like, dude If I'm Calvin,

750
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 5: Johnson i'm at size And I'm i'm that, Past i'm

751
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 5: gonna sleep, in show up WHEN i, want And i'm

752
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 5: gonna catch. Footballs this guy is one of the first

753
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 5: ones out there going through his. Routes this guy was

754
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 5: one of the last to leave at the jugs machine

755
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 5: making sure the ball's in his, hands like that's what it.

756
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 5: Takes and maybe you, Know Brian thomas Is junior's his

757
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 5: biggest detriment right now is that he got comfortable after

758
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 5: the first. Season but then if You're Liam, cohen if

759
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 5: you're a, company if you're the skill position, coach, whatever

760
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 5: then you got to hold that guy accountable and, say hey,

761
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 5: man we aren't doing the little things. Properly right, now

762
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 5: let's get back to the. Basics Think and.

763
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: You, know people want to blame the wide receiver, Coach Edgar.

764
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: Beennan i've Known edgar for a long. Time edgar coached

765
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 4: some really good receivers in this, league and he's done

766
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 4: a REAL i, Mean Devonte adams was. AN i, mean

767
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: he's coached a lot of guys AND i don't know

768
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: if IT'S i don't think It's, EDGAR i really.

769
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: DON'T i think it's the, kid and the kid has

770
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: to figure it.

771
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 4: Out you, know when you teach a kid that put

772
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: his foot in the ground and you, know snap that

773
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 4: route off's this he's a. Bender if you watch his,

774
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 4: routes he's a gliding. Bender and defensive backs don't respect.

775
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 5: That, yeah and they.

776
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: Should they.

777
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: Don't AND i think we gave him a lot of

778
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: credit last, season right especially in the back half when

779
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: he's having a lot of. Success but that was With

780
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: Mac jones and the tapes out now and there wasn't

781
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: a lot of. Options he was getting the ball thrown to,

782
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: him you, know fifteen plus times because no back half

783
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: the season there was nobody. Playing and now that you,

784
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: know he was probably the focus for a lot of

785
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: defenses coming in this, year they've made that a point

786
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: and now that they're some tentativeness, there they very much

787
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: latched onto, that and it feels like it's almost hard

788
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: to work when your weaknesses are shown that.

789
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 5: Way, Awesome, yeah, no it's it's a great. Point and

790
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 5: it's wild that we're having this conversation because if you

791
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 5: Go week one Against carolina And i'm The CAROLINA dc right,

792
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 5: Now i'm in the border in front of my, Team i'm,

793
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 5: like all, right who the game? Wreckers Brian Thomas junior's first,

794
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 5: right hands. Down If I'm Pete carroll right now And

795
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 5: i'm planning this defense in a couple of weeks to

796
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 5: play The Jacksonville, JAGUARS i don't Have Brian Thomas junior

797
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 5: on my game rerecord. List Like i'm not worried about.

798
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 5: Him i'm worried About Travis. Hunter i'm worried about the

799
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 5: run game a little. Bit but Like Brian Thomas junior isn't,

800
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 5: There so It's i'm at a loss for, wards, Really,

801
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 5: pete BECAUSE i think this was one of the CONVERSATIONS

802
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 5: i was not expecting to have halfway through the, season

803
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 5: almost of the you, know of the, downfall if you,

804
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 5: will Of Brian Thomas. Junior AND i really don't, know

805
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 5: like how you get out of, it because you've seen this.

806
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 5: Offense now try to feature, him you've seen, them try to, Go,

807
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 5: okay it's one bad. Game we're on in the next.

808
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 5: One and now it's just it is who you, are

809
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 5: Right like you're entitled to have a bad. Game everyone's

810
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 5: gonna have a bad game some, jobs, okay but this

811
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 5: is your identity, now and your identity is you're you're

812
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 5: an offensive minded team that doesn't have a wide receiver

813
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 5: one at the.

814
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: Moment. Okay and here's the other.

815
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: Thing when you Watch Travis hunter play wide, receiver you

816
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: see joy in his. Game you see you know he's

817
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: even when he's not getting the, football you can tell

818
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 4: he runs his routes, hard he loves you can see.

819
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 3: Enthusiasm he just lived to play.

820
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 4: Football Brian thomas plays the game like it's a, job

821
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: you know WHAT i.

822
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 3: Mean and we know it.

823
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 4: Is it's a, job but you gotta have the boyish

824
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 4: enthusiasm for your.

825
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 3: Job do you see that from him?

826
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 5: Ever, no but NO i. Don't BUT i also played

827
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 5: against a guy Named Andre johnson who showed zero motion

828
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 5: as one of the best wide Receivers i've ever. Seen

829
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 5: so like every.

830
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 4: Every wide receivers just't have the skills where he didn't

831
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 4: need to worry about.

832
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 3: No without a.

833
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 5: Doubt and at the end of the, day like, Listen

834
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 5: i'll take the humble type over the look at me

835
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 5: diva type any day of the.

836
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: Week, Absolutely and.

837
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 5: Like that's WHAT i think we all praised last year

838
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 5: At Brian Thomas junior is he's kind of saft spoken

839
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 5: and he's. Reserved but the problem is then is when.

840
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: It's going, wrong and you got to put in the work.

841
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 5: Too you got to put in the work as. Well

842
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 5: but the problem is when it's going, wrong you don't

843
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 5: know what's going.

844
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: On though from WHAT i, hear he puts the work.

845
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: In he just.

846
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: Practice he kind of glides a little bit at, times

847
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: which is concerning and they don't know why and.

848
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 3: He blocks he. Does that's.

849
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: Weird does you see the bids.

850
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 4: A wide receiver doesn't carry he's he's. Not he, blocked

851
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: so there's something else there and they got to figure it.

852
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: OUT i don't think he trusts the quarterback. EITHER i

853
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: think there's a that could be an issue, too because

854
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 4: you think about.

855
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: It when he's played With tever never been.

856
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 4: Good when he played With Mac, jones he was, Good

857
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 4: so there might be some kind of trust issue there as.

858
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: Well and there's not a lot OF i, mean on

859
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 2: these past. Teams you Know Christian, kirk who's Probably trevor

860
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: learns his best friend in. Life the trust is. There Evan,

861
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: ingram the trust is, there and those are relationships they build.

862
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: Together trevor doesn't have that implicit trust THAT i can

863
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: see from the receiver core that he has right. Now

864
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: AND i think that's part of what's, showing at least

865
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: with the disconnect with those two because we've talked a

866
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: ton About trevor trusting, them but the wide receivers don't

867
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: see and when it comes to, drops a lot of

868
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: this is. Mental these guys are physically. Capable they're talented wide.

869
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: RECEIVER i think we went in saying this maybe is

870
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: the most talented position group on the, team right or

871
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: in training. Camp But, pete they the, drops what's the mental?

872
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: Aspect how do you even work on?

873
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 4: That you know everybody always says go work on the jugs.

874
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 4: MACHINE i don't think, That, yeah, look that doesn't fix.

875
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 2: It you could trust the drugs machine because that's always

876
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: in the same. Spot so.

877
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 4: Like Diomi brown's drop or, whatever it, was that to,

878
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 4: me AND i Think Kurt warner did a good job explaining.

879
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 5: It there's.

880
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 4: Something it wasn't just a, Drop it wasn't just a bad.

881
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: Throw it was something between the two of. Them is

882
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 4: he supposed to? Continue he is he supposed to sit?

883
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 4: Down is he supposed to ball is supposed to be?

884
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: Here and you don't know the answer to, that but

885
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: it ended up going off his hands and being technically

886
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 3: it wasn't a, drop but it. Was it should have been.

887
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: Caught AND i think there's a lot of that indecision.

888
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: On what you should do on a route where the

889
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 3: ball is going to be ball, placement and you, Know

890
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: trevor's high with a lot of balls and you know

891
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: that sometimes that's, frustrating AND i THINK i think that

892
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: adds to the whole.

893
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: Process and then passing on shots down the field if

894
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 4: you're a receiver and you think you're open and he's

895
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: checking it down for a five yard game a gain

896
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 4: on third and, fourteen you're, frustrated you're angry.

897
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 3: About, it AND i think you're having some of that as, Well.

898
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 5: Pete do You so then what's what's this the immediate? Solution?

899
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 5: Then like if we're talking About Brian Thomas, junior like

900
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 5: do we do you look his way? Less? Now do

901
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 5: you elevate somebody and Take Brian Thomas junior's? Spot OBVIOUSLY

902
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 5: i think More Travis hunter is going to be the

903
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 5: answer going, Forward but, like how do you how do

904
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 5: you manage the? Situation because right now with what you

905
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 5: have a wide receiver and in terms of your group and,

906
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 5: everything like he's going to be counted on in some.

907
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 5: Capacity you would, THINK i don't think you want to buy.

908
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,959
Speaker 4: Week they could spend time with him in the bye

909
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 4: week and get him all straightened out and try and

910
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 4: figure that, out because you, Know trevor And Brian thomas

911
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 4: were supposed to be this combination that was going to

912
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 4: go for the next you, know four or five.

913
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: Years, wow look how great they.

914
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 4: Are they're not anything close to, that, nothing nothing close to.

915
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: It and we See trev's hunter. Right so he had

916
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: eight catches one hundred plus yards, here one hundred one

917
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: yards a. Touchdown he had fourteen, targets so that's a

918
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: little over fifty. Percent they had defeated to him late

919
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 2: a lot because there wasn't anything going. On we haven't

920
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: seen a ton of him on. Offense is the most

921
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: we've seen of him on. OFFENSE i think as he

922
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: learns the different wide receiver, positions can you force him

923
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 2: into it more without compromising what you're. DOING i guess

924
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: you're not having, success you might as well try and

925
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: force it to him a little. Bit but if he's

926
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: messing up the three snap penalties and all that, stuff.

927
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: Quick stuff to. HIM i think the best thing that

928
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: we saw On sunday was the fact that he got

929
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: down the field they threw, it because everything they've done

930
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: so far had been quick stuff in the quick.

931
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 4: Game but now he got down the, field AND i

932
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: think that's something you're gonna start seeing more and more.

933
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: Of you, know on they threw the one quick. Screen

934
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: it was actually a great play design where it looks

935
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 4: like it's gonna be the bubble screen to the, side

936
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 4: and then he comes underneath, it and the lineman's got

937
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 4: to be when they missed the.

938
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: Block when they missed the, block there's no tunnel. There

939
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: if he does make that, block AND i think it

940
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 3: Was hainesy who missed. It if he makes the, block

941
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: he's up the alley and he probably goes for twenty

942
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 3: five yards or.

943
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 4: Something maybe those are the kind of the design of

944
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 4: the play, worked but they didn't block, it so it didn't.

945
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 4: Work and it's just those little things that are preventing

946
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 4: them from. Going but the biggest thing that has to

947
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 4: happen after the, Buye trevor's got to take the shots

948
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 4: down the. Field they got to run the ball, better

949
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: And Brian thomas needs to start playing Like Brian thomas

950
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 4: because if he, doesn't they got a major.

951
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 5: Problem, YEAH i, MEAN i think this offense right, now

952
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 5: the top priority has to be to run the football

953
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 5: BECAUSE i think right now defense are playing too much

954
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: on their heels knowing it's going to be a pass

955
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 5: because they can shut down the. RUN i think when

956
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 5: The jaguars have had the best success is the threat

957
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 5: to run the football and then working play action off

958
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 5: that you saw that yesterday with The. Rams you know

959
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 5: that The rams came out in a lot of three

960
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 5: tight end, looks two tight, END luckx and, everything and

961
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 5: This jaguars defense wasn't ready for, it right and you

962
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 5: saw it Against seattle as. Well and this is this

963
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 5: is where THE nfl is going. Now THE nfl is

964
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 5: going back to like the Qbac, god you know offense

965
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 5: that the he had WHEN i played For jacksonwall And,

966
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: houston where it's, like as a defensive, lineman you hate

967
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 5: it because it all looks the. Same is it going

968
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 5: to be a? Run is it gonna be play? Action?

969
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 5: Like that's what The jaguars have to. Be you can't

970
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 5: be a team that wants to sling it forty fifty

971
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 5: times a GAME i expect to. Win it's just that

972
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 5: they aren't built for that right.

973
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: Now, no they're.

974
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: Not from the backyard to the. Beach is The ford

975
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,439
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Speaker 2: fod dealer. Today all, right when we, return we talked

979
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: a ton. Offense we've got to talk a little bit

980
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: about the. Defense no, takeaway some big, problems not a

981
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: lot of pass. RUSH i don't know if we have the,

982
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: answers but we're going to try to figure things out

983
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: here On Jaguars Happy hour presented By Jet Home.

984
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 8: Loans we all know who we are as, players how

985
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 8: we want to, play how we want to take the

986
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 8: field every single day is just you, know when we

987
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 8: start being, OURSELVES i think that's, when you, know all

988
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 8: that goes out the.

989
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 5: Window SO i think that's where it. Starts you, know starts.

990
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 8: Internally and you, know if you're guy that's constantly making those,

991
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 8: MISTAKES i don't, KNOW i could be talking about, MYSELF

992
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 8: i be talking about. Anybody we have to look at

993
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 8: those mistakes and hold yourself accountable and you, know do

994
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 8: it for the team and you, know, again.

995
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 5: Find a way to get.

996
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: Better and that's where.

997
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 5: We're at right.

998
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: Now two us is in a row for The, jaguars

999
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: AND i think frustrating because it feels like a lot

1000
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: of self inflicted, wounds whether it's penalties or just, misalignments

1001
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: prest penalties on offense, too but saw a bunch on.

1002
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 2: Defense Austin, Lane Pee prisco here with. Me i'm filling

1003
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: in FOR jp and the pass Rush. Austin we haven't

1004
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: seen much of. Anything AND i Know trayvon's been playing

1005
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: with cast on one, hand and we haven't been seeing

1006
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: a ton from maybe the middle of the. Line but

1007
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: to go the last couple of weeks where you're allowing

1008
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: seven sacks on the other side of the ball both,

1009
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: weeks so fourteen sacks allowed and then haven't gotten to

1010
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 2: the quarterback at all from the defense.

1011
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 5: Line so this is one of the DOWNSIDES i think

1012
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 5: of winning is that sometimes it can mask a lot of.

1013
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 5: Things AND i think so far through the winning time

1014
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 5: was that it massed a little bit of the pass

1015
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 5: rush because, yes you were getting. Interceptions you, know against

1016
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 5: The Kansas city, game you Had lloyd who you know

1017
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 5: essentially Saw patch mahomes, eyes goes to the, ball gets

1018
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 5: a nine to nine yard interception for a. Touchdown like

1019
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 5: that was great and, Everything but what gets lost in

1020
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 5: those games is there wasn't a lot of pass. Rush and,

1021
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 5: yeah if you want to look at the box, score,

1022
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 5: Yeah josh Heinz allen not really getting Home Treyvon, walker

1023
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 5: dealing with the club and. Everything but it's so much

1024
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 5: more than. That it's it's interior. Wise right, NOW i

1025
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 5: Think Eric armstead is still the leading quarterback sat getter

1026
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 5: of this. Team but interior, wise they're not really getting home.

1027
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 5: Either and you're seeing right now a defense that doesn't

1028
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 5: really have a lot of answers in terms, of you,

1029
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 5: know generating. Pressure they're trying to blitz, people they're trying

1030
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 5: to do, everything and they can't get home Pee and

1031
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 5: you saw Yesterday Matthew stafford absolutely tear this team apart

1032
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 5: when they wanted to.

1033
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 4: Blitz, yeah AND i thought early in the game they

1034
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 4: might blitz. More remember the first play of the, game

1035
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 4: they got, pressure they, blitzed they came a bunch of different,

1036
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 4: ways and then they kind of backed off of it

1037
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 4: a little. Bit and then when they did it. Spotty you,

1038
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 4: know you mentioned josh Heinz.

1039
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 3: Allen, look he's not getting a guy on the quarterback

1040
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: on the.

1041
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 4: Ground he's playing really good football, though and if you

1042
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 4: look at the, tape there's two guys on him on

1043
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 4: every team KNOWS i got to take him away Without

1044
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 4: Trayvon walker on the other side because he's not.

1045
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 3: THERE i don't care what they. Say he what Do

1046
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: he played eighteen.

1047
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 4: Plays he's not the same with that club. Man you

1048
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 4: can't you, can't you can't, shed you, can't you can't

1049
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 4: get to get off, guys AND i think that's a

1050
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: problem when he's not.

1051
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: There ogba, smooth they're Not they're not line up and

1052
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: win kind of.

1053
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: Guys they're good effort, players particularly. Smooth that's who they.

1054
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 4: Are the interior you talk about That. Armstead, Okay smith

1055
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 4: has had a couple of pressures here and he actually

1056
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 4: had a couple of. YEAR i think he had got

1057
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: credited with two of them. Yesterday hamilton doesn't give you

1058
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 4: any pass rush at.

1059
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: All and so you don't get a lot of pressure.

1060
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 4: Inside and when you don't get pressure, inside they just

1061
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: run and you, know Heinz allen.

1062
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: Up the field and all of a sudden you don't

1063
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: have any. Pressure but, yeah in fairness to, Him i'm

1064
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: gonna give him credit because he's played actually good. Football

1065
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: he just can't get the quarterback on the. Ground did

1066
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: he not get credit at all for? That when he

1067
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 3: there wasn't? Act did he not get?

1068
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: That, yeah but there.

1069
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 3: Wasn't there wasn't another.

1070
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: One where he almost got him but he got away

1071
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: and then he got the ball. Off that's. RIGHT i

1072
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: think maybe A Q, yeah something like That, yeah he's, uh.

1073
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: He's actually played good.

1074
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 4: Football and they know every, team you know we talk

1075
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 4: about teams know who to take.

1076
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: Away, yeah they're putting two guys over, there they're chipping,

1077
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: them they're hitting.

1078
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 4: Them and then because they know there's nothing on the

1079
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 4: other side right, now Because Trayvon walker has to show.

1080
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: HIMSELF i, mean he probably shouldn't be.

1081
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: Playing by the, way he probably shouldn't.

1082
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: Be.

1083
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, YEAH i think at some point at that ashef

1084
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 5: are you doing more harm than?

1085
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: GOOD i still think he's better than not having him out,

1086
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: there even at whatever capacity it. Is just because he.

1087
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 4: Made one play where he looped inside and knocked the guard,

1088
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 4: back do you.

1089
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 5: Remember, yeah, yeah, yeah you did.

1090
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: That but but you're, right but he can't he can't

1091
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: use that. Hand but you can't use that. Hand you're

1092
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: playing one handed and it's hard to rush the pass

1093
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 3: or one.

1094
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: HANDED i think the hope with, him at least from

1095
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: what we've, heard is that take this bye, WEEK i,

1096
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 2: think hoping hopefully going Into vegas or if, not the next,

1097
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 2: week he'll be able to play with a different cast

1098
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 2: where he'll get his use of his hands back a

1099
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: little bit and hopefully get a little bit more back

1100
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 2: to the trayvon we are used to, seeing but a lot.

1101
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: More that was the first hour Of Happy. Hour gonna

1102
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: be back with. You of, course as we discuss much,

1103
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: more we'll keep it. REAL i answer the fan questions

1104
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: all of that here On Jaguars Happy hour on The

1105
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: Jaguars Digital.

1106
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 9: NETWORK i feel like we're, Going we're really going together

1107
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 9: and we're getting.

1108
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 10: Better but TODAY i feel like we had a step.

1109
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 10: Back and then as a, LEADER i feel like that

1110
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 10: that's that's definitely one of me being a key part in.

1111
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 10: That But i'll let you guys know THAT i let

1112
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 10: him down and they appreciated. Me but LIKE i, said,

1113
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 10: MAN i really do love them and we're gonna get.

1114
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 10: Better AND i, KNOW i Know i've been through my

1115
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 10: fair share of, adversity SO i think we can we

1116
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 10: can get through.

1117
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: This welcome into your second hour Of Happy, hour Kind

1118
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 2: Nannie stephen's filling in FOR Jp shaddick because he travels

1119
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: back From. London Austin, Lane Pete prisco are with me

1120
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: and the Second hour presented by Mister Chubbes's wings before the,

1121
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: game after the, game during the, game anytime there's Mister.

1122
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 2: Chubbies it's a good. Time we'll briefly go back over.

1123
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: Things that Was Jordan, lewis one of your captains coming

1124
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 2: in From, dallas a veteran. Player probably his worst game

1125
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 2: that we've seen thus far with The, jaguars because he's

1126
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: been great other than. That some penalties just frustrating all

1127
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: around on the defensive side of the. Football as we mentioned,

1128
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: earlier thirteen accepted penalties over one hundred penalty. Yards it's

1129
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: very difficult to win a football game that. Way and

1130
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 2: now The drags are four and three heading into the

1131
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 2: bye week after that thirty five to seven loss to

1132
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: The rams At Wembley stadium and getting down twenty one nothing.

1133
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: Early they sleep walked into it a little bit because

1134
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 2: when you look at the, stats it doesn't look. Crazy

1135
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: just with those penalties, combined it was very short fields

1136
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: for The rams and they took. Advantage Matthew stafford completely

1137
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 2: took advantage of what was given to him and really

1138
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: kind of ate away at that secondary a little. Bit

1139
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: and we haven't talked about it because you guys haven't

1140
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: been on the show in a couple of, weeks but

1141
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: they made that trade Sent Tyson campbell To cleveland and

1142
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: Got Greg knwsom junior in, return And tyson hadn't been

1143
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: playing Great. Austin but that does switch up some of

1144
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: the dynamic in the. Secondary it feels like they haven't

1145
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: quite figured it out. Yet, yes they played two great,

1146
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: teams SO i don't want to just put it on, that

1147
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: but they haven't quite figured that out.

1148
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 5: Yet you, KNOW i couldn't Help but notice yesterday AND

1149
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 5: i think this might have been the Second adams touchdown

1150
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 5: in the third. Round and there's so many of, them

1151
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 5: but there was a couple of them, Right but When

1152
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 5: adams was on single, COVERAGE i think With Buster, brown

1153
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 5: If i'm not, mistaken And adams just really it literally

1154
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 5: goes like this To, stafford And stafford checks it and it's,

1155
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 5: like okay that they knew what was going. ON i

1156
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 5: couldn't help it in the, instance, know like If Tyson

1157
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 5: campbell was out there On DeVante, adams Would Tyson campbell

1158
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 5: have made a. Difference And i'm not sure if that's

1159
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 5: the case or, not but you, KNOW i think when

1160
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 5: and we talked about WELL i talked about this on

1161
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 5: a different, Show but like when you're a defensive guy

1162
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 5: and you're coming to a different, team, like, yeah maybe

1163
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 5: the playbook's, minimal but it takes time to get ingrained

1164
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 5: in terms of who you're playing with next two and

1165
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 5: everything in.

1166
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: Terms of the.

1167
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 5: Spot, Right so you, know we haven't seen the full

1168
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 5: capabilities THAT i feel like of A. Newsom but at

1169
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 5: the same, time right, NOW i, see you, KNOW i

1170
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 5: See Tyson campbell get a pick six and he's doing his,

1171
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 5: thing and then you see news him and it's, Like,

1172
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 5: okay wasn't the best. Game it's not a good look right, Now.

1173
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 4: Pete But campbell's pick six kind of was an.

1174
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 2: Accident From Rayshawn, jenkins our other old.

1175
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 4: Friend by the, way, yeah, yeah it wasn't like he

1176
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 4: jumped the route and took the back. Around but so,

1177
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 4: LOOK i know why they made the. Move newsom fits

1178
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 4: what they want to.

1179
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: Do he plays better looking at the field Than Tyson

1180
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 3: campbell does and the track was.

1181
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 4: Brutal by the, way let's be, real the previous regime

1182
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 4: threw money around like they printed it at times for

1183
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 4: guys that probably shouldn't have got that, money and that

1184
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 4: was part of the. Process but you're, right it's gonna

1185
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 4: take the bye week is probably good For. Newsom he

1186
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 4: needs to get up the speed on, everything and does

1187
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 4: he what's the safety Trust and you go back to

1188
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 4: The smith And jigba play Against.

1189
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 3: Seattle where was dew we on that?

1190
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 5: Play so we're starting to see we can't talk about

1191
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 5: this when we talked About, dewey but we're starting to

1192
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 5: see now of an issue With dewey in terms of

1193
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 5: he's playing far way like he's playing way up too

1194
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 5: much and he doesn't have to speed to, recover, RIGHT i,

1195
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 5: mean AND i. CAN'T i can't remember who the tight

1196
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 5: end was who he got burnt by as well Against.

1197
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 5: Seattle guy right the?

1198
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: Back, yeah?

1199
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 5: Whoever he was.

1200
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 2: Someone you don't know to with the tight.

1201
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: Ends there's the rookie From.

1202
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 5: Oregon, okay, no that's the that's From, Yeah i'm talking

1203
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 5: about the guy From seattle two weeks. Ago but yeah

1204
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 5: that Was.

1205
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 3: Barner ok YEAH A.

1206
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 5: J barner ran a four eight, Right and like you

1207
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 5: see this happen with safety sometimes where you get sucked

1208
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 5: in a little too, much whether it's play, action whether

1209
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 5: it's fourth and, short and, like, Okay i'm gonna you,

1210
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 5: know get sucked, up but you have to recover off

1211
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 5: that and right, now for whatever, reason whether It's barner

1212
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 5: or whether it was the play. Yesterday you have a

1213
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 5: safety who's coming down thinking it's gonna be a run

1214
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 5: and he can't, recover and that's just that's Not dewey's.

1215
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 5: Game SO i would much rather see him in the

1216
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 5: strong safety stack in the box stopping the run than

1217
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 5: maybe playing a little more of like a you, know

1218
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 5: a center fielder where it's, like, Hey i'm responsible for

1219
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 5: the back end because that's not his.

1220
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: Game, YEAH i, mean and the last two weeks has

1221
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 3: been really. BAD i, mean let's be, real BECAUSE i

1222
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: praised them earlier the, SEASON i gave all his flowers

1223
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: and think we all be honest about.

1224
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 5: It the last weeks we're.

1225
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 3: Terrible.

1226
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah AND i don't know if that's just because of

1227
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: personnel changes as well or kind of the book getting,

1228
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 2: out BECAUSE i think they're picking on him a little

1229
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: bit at, times at least the last couple of weeks

1230
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: With dewey and then yesterday he was and he's been

1231
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: playing with that neck. INJURY i think he left the

1232
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: game as well again yesterday he's that neck injury has been,

1233
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: lingering so we've seen him not in there as. Well

1234
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 2: and then you're getting down to you, Know antonio And,

1235
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: johnson whoever they can put in just with. Bodies at that, Point,

1236
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: pete why Can't Travis hunter play cornerback all the? TIME

1237
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: i know we want him on, offense but like you're

1238
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 2: supposed to play. Both he's your best. Cornerback it is

1239
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 2: so frustrating to not see him in the full staff

1240
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 2: of a football.

1241
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 4: Game, YEAH i would play him a corner he would

1242
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 4: be on the. Field and by the, Way i'm glad

1243
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 4: you brought him back up, again because there is a

1244
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 4: national narrative out, there however. Misguided it might be that

1245
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 4: they blew this pick their only.

1246
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: Way they're gonna blow it as if they don't play him.

1247
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 4: More it's not an indictment Of travis as a, player

1248
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 4: but the fact that you traded up to go get,

1249
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 4: him gave up a one next year to go get,

1250
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 4: him and you're only using them on one.

1251
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 3: Side of the, ball or mostly on one side of the,

1252
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 3: ball is not a good. Move if he's playing both

1253
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: sides of the, ball and he's starring on both sides

1254
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: of the, ball which is entirely capable of, doing by the,

1255
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: way then it's a great. Move So i'm with.

1256
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 4: You, guys he's got to be a starting corner and

1257
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 4: a starting wide, receiver and he's got to play both for,

1258
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 4: that because otherwise you could have gotten into the draft and,

1259
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 4: said let's, see we could have taken corner this year

1260
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 4: or wide. Receiver say they Took tech McMillan from from

1261
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 4: The carolina The panthers picked.

1262
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 3: Him you Take tech. McMillan then you go back next

1263
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 3: in the next year's draft when your pick and you

1264
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 3: get a corner who plays full time and could be

1265
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 3: a top fifteen. Corner are you better off that way

1266
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: than you are With Travis hunter only playing limited snaps

1267
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: at the corner and limited snaps at the wide.

1268
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 4: Receiver and the answer to that, question by the, way is, hell.

1269
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 4: Yes so he's got to play. Bogues they have to

1270
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 4: play in full time at.

1271
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 5: Corner and here's the thing, TOO i was, skeptical LIKE

1272
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 5: i think one of the hardest positions to go from

1273
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 5: college to the pros is the cornerback, position just because

1274
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 5: the speed, changes the coverages, change and to go against

1275
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 5: some of the best wide receivers in the. League it's

1276
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 5: a far cry away from playing you, Know pac twelve

1277
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 5: or whatever you. Play i'm, sorry, Big, WELL i think

1278
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 5: that The big Twelve big twelve against like teams like

1279
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 5: you know whoever you're playing Against Colido, state, right, Right Arizona.

1280
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 5: State but BECAUSE i went, there oh, yeah, sorry but, yeah,

1281
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 5: yeah there we. Go but like he's shown like he's

1282
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 5: giving you no reasons not to trust. Him he's shown

1283
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 5: that he's the best cover. Guy you, know you're down

1284
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 5: twenty one, points you finally put him On devine To

1285
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 5: adams and he makes a play on.

1286
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: Him.

1287
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 5: Right so if you have a player right now that

1288
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 5: is giving you no reasons why you can't trust, him

1289
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 5: either on offense or on, defense then it's on you

1290
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 5: to use him. Accordingly AND i agree with. YOU i

1291
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 5: think that there needs to be more of a usage

1292
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 5: because he's shown that he can handle it on both

1293
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 5: sides of the. Ball SO i think going, forward he's

1294
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 5: your best, corner he's your best wide. Receiver you have

1295
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 5: to use him as.

1296
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: SUCH i still haven't seen him join did, yet so

1297
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 2: go for?

1298
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 3: It well yeah. Yeah the two weeks before when he

1299
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 3: played Against smith And, jigbook he did a really nice,

1300
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 3: job but he was lined up with, him and when

1301
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: he played Against, worthy he did a really nice. Job

1302
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 3: when he lined up against those are two speedy guys

1303
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 3: who can run In smith And jig Upstanding.

1304
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 5: Pete we didn't talk about this because we didn't have the,

1305
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 5: show but my favorite play from That chiefs, GAME i

1306
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 5: get there's a couple of to choose from From Travis,

1307
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 5: hunter was the fact That Travis, hunter you, know on

1308
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 5: that goal, Route worthy beats him a little. Bit hunter.

1309
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 5: Recovers it's stepper step with him and you know it

1310
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 5: defends the ball and he's an then zone and he's

1311
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 5: celebrating like That Examber morthy around of what a four

1312
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 5: to two whatever it?

1313
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 3: Was, yeah to have The hunter has the recovery. SPEED i.

1314
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: See that's why he needs to, play.

1315
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,919
Speaker 5: To have the skill set to on a goal route

1316
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 5: where it's full speed to turn your, hips to turn

1317
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 5: your shoulders and your. Step first step With Xavier worthy

1318
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 5: tells you all you need to know about how good

1319
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 5: of a cover Corner Travis hunter.

1320
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: Is let's talk a little bit about the offense, again

1321
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 2: but specifically the run. Game right this, offense when it

1322
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: has been, effective has been the run. GAME i looked

1323
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: at the game book right, now thirteen carries from your

1324
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: two running backs yesterday and that was a lot of

1325
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: that was late too with. Garbage SO i know they're getting.

1326
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 2: PENALTIES i know they're getting behind, it but seeing the

1327
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: success even when they're running, it they're getting you, know

1328
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: five yard to. Carry is there a way to do, This?

1329
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: Peete is it play? Calling is he just getting away from,

1330
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 2: it trying to get so focused on the pass. Game

1331
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 2: how do you get back into it enforce the running

1332
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 2: game to get. Going.

1333
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 4: Well part of the problem is the passing game isn't very.

1334
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 4: Good and when the passing game is not very, good

1335
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 4: they bring somebody down and they say go, ahead and

1336
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 4: we're gonna dare you to throw the.

1337
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 3: Ball AND i think that's added to the problems with

1338
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: the run.

1339
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 4: Game the other part of it, is AND i said

1340
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 4: it early in the, show, McCarry they brought him in

1341
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 4: there to be.

1342
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: A starting guard and be a good. One and for

1343
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 3: three games he was pretty.

1344
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 4: Good the last two weeks and it's particularly On sunday

1345
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 4: he was not.

1346
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: Good and when your guard's not, good there's gonna be.

1347
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 4: Penetration they're getting up the field on, him and when

1348
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 4: they get up the, field it's tough to.

1349
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 3: Run here's the other part that we're missing No.

1350
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 4: Strange, yeah when he's not in the, lineup the edge

1351
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 4: doesn't get blocked like it does when he's in the,

1352
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 4: lineup and so you got a lot of, penetration but thirteen.

1353
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 3: Carries by the, way not nearly. Enough they need to

1354
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 3: get back to get run in the.

1355
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 5: Football, YEAH i, MEAN i Think breton's strange after these

1356
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 5: last two. WEEKS i would offer him a lifetime contract

1357
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 5: because you, know watching watching the forty Nine ers last NIGHT,

1358
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 5: pm that Tri if you watched that, GAME i Heard

1359
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 5: George kittle's name more than anything for a guy that

1360
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 5: had zero, receptions but you saw what he was doing

1361
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 5: in the run game and how much they missed him

1362
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 5: With christian. McCaffrey McCaffrey had a monster game because of

1363
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 5: the blocking Of George. Kittle AND i Think Brenton strange

1364
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 5: fits that same. Mold so they're definitely missing you, Know Brenton,

1365
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 5: strange and obviously you're missing him from the run, game

1366
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 5: but also He's tarver's security, blanket you, know like when

1367
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 5: when when stuff hits the, wall that's the first guy

1368
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 5: you go. To AND i don't think, MONTHS i don't

1369
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 5: Think long has earned that type of respect yet in

1370
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 5: terms of If i'm a, Defense they're not scaring me

1371
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 5: running across the middle right?

1372
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 3: Now which one of those guys dropped one? Yesterday one of.

1373
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: Them The hunter, LINE i think two for.

1374
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 3: Three, yeah here's the other.

1375
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 4: Thing they had to use the extra tackle a couple

1376
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 4: of times on the on the run game because they

1377
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 4: they don't Have. Strange that's, why in large part because

1378
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 4: they do not have, him AND i think that.

1379
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 3: Misses but back.

1380
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 4: To, McCarry when is mylamb coming off The it should

1381
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 4: be maybe after the bye he might be.

1382
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: BACK i think. SO i think it's kind of that

1383
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 2: middle period where like maybe they could push it and

1384
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 2: like he's not, active like he's always kind of in the,

1385
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 2: mix like on the injury, report but maybe could be

1386
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: activated at any. Point they just haven't kind of made that,

1387
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: move and as you, mentioned by week coming, up it

1388
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 2: could be the time to do.

1389
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 4: That we thought we thought at one point before the

1390
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 4: season it might be him Taking cleveland.

1391
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: SPOT i think the other side, Now.

1392
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 4: I'm not so sure he's not going to take the other.

1393
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 4: SPOT i, Mean i'm let's put it this. Way IF

1394
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 4: i was coaching that team right, now my right, guard

1395
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 4: no matter what his contract is would be on. Notice,

1396
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 4: yeah that's how bad he was On, Sunday, PETE i.

1397
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 2: Think we have a fan question about your offensive line,

1398
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: thoughts so we might save that for coming up BECAUSE

1399
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: i think we want to know what our thoughts are for.

1400
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 2: THAT i think another thing we just we did say

1401
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,479
Speaker 2: this About, strange but he's probably your most reliable pass

1402
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: catcher when the season, started so you're forgetting that factor as.

1403
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: Well Trevor larrence also doesn't Have Brenton, strange who is

1404
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 2: another person that maybe he had some trust in going

1405
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: into this. Matchup but we talked a lot going into the,

1406
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: week at least here With jaguars about that coaching, matchup,

1407
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: Right Liam cohen going up Skain sean, McVay who's one

1408
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: of the, best and just kind of what they wanted

1409
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 2: to be. HERE i felt it was early to even

1410
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 2: kind of get into that because he doesn't even have

1411
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: the players he wants, yet you, know he's only been

1412
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 2: here six. Games but what was kind OF i guess

1413
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 2: a positive is How i'm going to look at it

1414
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 2: is when you Watch sean mcvay's offense, run you're you

1415
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 2: see What liam wants to, do and maybe he doesn't

1416
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: have all the personnel quite yet to get that done

1417
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: or or what exactly is going. On you, know the

1418
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: penalty doesn't have The stafford. Either, yeah we would all

1419
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: love him At stafford at this, point just the poison

1420
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 2: and what he does out, there just the, control the

1421
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: mastery of that. Offense it's. Hopeful i'm gonna go this.

1422
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 2: Way it's hopeful if they can get things running the

1423
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: way they want, to that's the success that you can,

1424
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 2: see and you see a little bit of what they

1425
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 2: want to be.

1426
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 5: Doing this is WHAT i talked about on the pregame

1427
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 5: show because Obviously Pokin nakua one of the best wider

1428
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 5: series in being, out people are making a big deal about,

1429
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 5: it AND i just, thought, LIKE i don't think The

1430
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 5: rams really worried About pookin Ni cool being out because

1431
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 5: you're not really playing Against pokin a coor you're not

1432
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 5: playing against The Vonta. Adams you're playing against A sean

1433
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 5: mcvay's scheme and it doesn't matter who's in, there he's

1434
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 5: gonna find ways to score with the, football, RIGHT i,

1435
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 5: mean we want to talk about. It it Was ferguson right From,

1436
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 5: Yeah SO i had no idea Who ferguson was he

1437
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 5: scores a, touchdown my son, GOES i didn't know he

1438
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 5: was IN. Nfi how do you know? Him why At?

1439
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 5: Oregon my son's a Big oregon. Fan like you're, saying

1440
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 5: you've seen players that you've never heard of before making

1441
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 5: big plays for the. Team so you, Realize, okay this

1442
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 5: is more about the scheme than it is about even

1443
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 5: who the player. Is AND i think you saw a

1444
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 5: great game plan from, McVeigh and to me it was

1445
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 5: it was clearer to the rams on. Offense you have

1446
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 5: a defense that likes to show. Blitz you have a

1447
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 5: defense that likes to bring. Pressure McVay countered that by

1448
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 5: showing a run with a bunch of tight, ends with

1449
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 5: a tounch of tight bunch. Formations but then they they

1450
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 5: branched off and you had guys wide open because This

1451
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 5: jaygar's defense wasn't accustomed to trying to cover guys so

1452
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 5: close to line of. Scrimmage and that's What sean McVay.

1453
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 5: Did and, listen this game could have been a lot

1454
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 5: worse beat because if you remember the second, quarter like

1455
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 5: a minute left on the, clock they took a.

1456
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 3: Knee took a knee that they had a nine.

1457
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 5: Yard game in the first play and they took a.

1458
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 3: Mercy that's HOW i.

1459
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 5: Treat my son When i'm whipping his butt in college football,

1460
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 5: PlayStation where it's, like, okay, Buddy i'm beating you by.

1461
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 5: Forty i'm, like let's let's go on a. Halftime i'll

1462
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 5: just take the knee and what we're reassess her like?

1463
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 5: That that game that WAS i.

1464
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 3: Was sitting there yelling. Him we were watching the, game

1465
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 3: And i'm, like what is he? Doing why wouldn't you?

1466
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 3: Go you had to almost two minutes? Ago and and

1467
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: he it was always like he, knew, well they're not

1468
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 3: coming back on, Me So i'm just.

1469
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 2: Gonna put a little professional.

1470
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 4: Currents here's the other thing about real quick on on the,

1471
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 4: defense they didn't even run the.

1472
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 3: Ball the genesis of that rammed offense is to run the.

1473
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 3: Ball that's the basis of. It they roll off.

1474
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 4: Play they didn't even run the, ball even barely even

1475
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 4: try to run the. Ball how many carries did they have.

1476
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 2: Got in the as?

1477
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 5: Well it's.

1478
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 3: Not.

1479
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 2: Many, Yeah Karen williams had, Twelve korum had twelve twenty

1480
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 2: four and then step for twenty.

1481
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 4: Four and have a lot of those came late in

1482
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 4: the game when they, did and so the bottom line

1483
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 4: is the bottom. LINE i, personally Though, AUSTIN i would

1484
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 4: have man and If i'm playing The rams And nikup

1485
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 4: is not, there they don't have.

1486
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 3: Speed they have a lot of, things and they don't have.

1487
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 4: Speed Devontay adams is one of the all time great

1488
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 4: route runners in the.

1489
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 3: History of the.

1490
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 4: League, yeah but he's older and he does he never

1491
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 4: was a, Burner So i'm gonna beat them LIKE i

1492
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 4: would have Taken Travis hunter and put him On Devontae

1493
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 4: adams and rolled my coverage to everybody else and made

1494
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 4: sure those boots if they're not running the, ball those

1495
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 4: boots where you're getting over pursued into the.

1496
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 3: Run, game they shouldn't be a. Factor, ever and they

1497
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 3: really weren't running the ball early in that. Game at,

1498
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 3: HALFTIME i can't imagine they had many. Yards the WAY

1499
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 3: i watched that came, out they didn't run the ball

1500
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 3: very much in the first. Half, No SO i THINK

1501
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 3: i think they got caught out of position a bunch,

1502
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 3: that you, know they got, fooled their eyes got fooled

1503
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 3: a little.

1504
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 2: Bit, yeah and, Penalties, yeah we had a rough.

1505
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 4: GAME i, mean it was a rough game for. Doing

1506
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 4: Jordan lewis didn't have a good game.

1507
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 5: Either you know. What and then there's a narrative going

1508
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 5: around to. That, okay it's essentially the teacher beating the, student,

1509
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 5: right the student still has a lot to, learn WHICH

1510
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 5: i don't buy at. ALL i, mean when we talk

1511
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 5: about The sean McVay coaching, tree and right now it's

1512
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 5: seems to be paying a lot of. Dividends Matt lafleur

1513
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 5: is undefeated Against sean. McVay i Think Matt lafleur right

1514
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 5: now In Green bay is four and oh against The, rams,

1515
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 5: Right so like that that that excuse isn't get enough

1516
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 5: for me, Either pete where it's, like, oh, well you

1517
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 5: know he kind of had his, no, NO i, MEAN

1518
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 5: i mean you, didn't because it's shown that he can be.

1519
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 5: Beat it's just whether you don't have the personnel quite,

1520
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 5: yet whether you don't have the guys buying in quite.

1521
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 5: Yet but it was abundantly clear that one offense was

1522
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 5: a well oiled machine and the other one just not

1523
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 5: quite there. Yet, yeah not quite there.

1524
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 2: Yet all, right more to. Come we're gonna keep it

1525
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 2: real about the special team situation the. Kicker we haven't

1526
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: talked about it. Yet all of that On Jaguars Happy,

1527
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 2: hour presented to you by Mister Tubby's.

1528
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:22,919
Speaker 6: Wings, yeah it's you, know you feel for the guy

1529
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 6: in terms of wanting to put him in a position

1530
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 6: and be. Successful you, KNOW i thought about that decision

1531
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 6: a little bit because it was twenty one nothing at that.

1532
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 6: Point you, know you just kind of wanted to get

1533
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 6: some points on the board to see a little positivity

1534
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 6: when you looked up at the scoreboard and we ended

1535
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 6: up missing. It SO i just got to go talk

1536
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 6: to him BEFORE i comment on.

1537
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 2: It welcome back To Happy Hour feeling in for JPM,

1538
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,320
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1539
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1542
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Speaker 2: are going to keep it real right. NOW i feel

1543
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: Like pete always keeps it. Real, austin you, Too but

1544
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 2: we haven't talked much about this. Yet cam little missing

1545
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 2: kicks and THEN i feel like the play calling then

1546
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 2: is changing because of having no trust in the kicker as.

1547
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 2: WELL i think they went for six fourth.

1548
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 3: Downs some, Seven, yeah a lot of seven.

1549
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: And in territory as, well where you're, like and yes

1550
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 2: there was, rain there was weather involved in, that BUT

1551
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: i think was it four miss field goals in five? Weeks?

1552
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 2: Now for For Caim, little is this a kicking problem

1553
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: at this? Point?

1554
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 4: Pete, yes, absolutely one hundred. Percent and, look your kicker has.

1555
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 4: Issues but fourth and, seven And i'm going to get

1556
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 4: On Liam cohen a little for that.

1557
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 3: One you got to kick your field goal. There it

1558
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 3: would have only been a one thirty five yarder If

1559
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 3: i'm not. Mistaken if that guy can't make a thirty

1560
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 3: five yard field, goal then you gotta caught. Him that's

1561
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 3: the bottom.

1562
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 4: Line SO i DON'T i know it impacted the play calling,

1563
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 4: somewhat but fourth and seven you got to get points

1564
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 4: on the.

1565
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 3: Board you have.

1566
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 4: To SO i didn't like that call at. All but

1567
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 4: the kicker is an issue right, now and if he.

1568
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 3: Doesn't fix, it you got to send a packing.

1569
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 4: Dude he's got about another two games and if he

1570
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 4: doesn't fix, this he's. Done you know how this is

1571
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 4: in this, League i've seen many a kicker who had

1572
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 4: a power leg who went.

1573
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 3: Bad they got rid of.

1574
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 4: Him now if you get rid of, them what will

1575
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 4: happen is probably what.

1576
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 3: Happened With Jason. Meyers he's going to go somewhere else

1577
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 3: and become a pretty good. Gigger so you gotta be

1578
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 3: careful with.

1579
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 4: It but he has no. Confidence right, now he's shaking his.

1580
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 4: Head you can tell he's just he's just totally lost.

1581
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 2: It coach came. Out coach speaking today on a media

1582
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 2: availability while we've been on said he's not bringing in

1583
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 2: anybody else at this. Point they're fully confident In Cam

1584
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 2: BUT i don't, know And i'm not saying they should

1585
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 2: quit on him by any. Means he's clearly talented. Player

1586
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: it's a some sort OF i don't know if it's

1587
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: the yips are just a mental thing at this, point

1588
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 2: AND i think part of it maybe when you've always

1589
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 2: had success and you've never had to battle through something like.

1590
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: This he's very. Young we've mentioned what twenty two at this,

1591
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 2: point so for him to now be having this at

1592
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 2: the highest, LEVEL i think that's something he's going to

1593
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: have to learn to battle. Through But, austin do you

1594
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 2: try to bring in competition is that not helpful at this,

1595
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 2: point what.

1596
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 5: Would you Be, YEAH i mean if we're having the

1597
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 5: conversation of fourth and seven from the thirty five and

1598
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 5: you're not gonna kick it because maybe you're worried about

1599
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 5: the result of kicking. It and by the, WAY i

1600
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 5: shout out To liam con And Trevor, LAWRENCE i swore

1601
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 5: in front of my son watching the, game WHICH i

1602
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 5: THOUGHT i wouldn't do this, year but That Trevor lawrence

1603
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 5: brought Back oh, yeah, YEAH i mean not since The

1604
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 5: Blake bortal picked six back to back. Games what was

1605
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 5: a curse word drop A thankfully my son understoodies like.

1606
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 5: THAT i get, it like that was as. Bad i'm, like,

1607
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 5: yeah it wasn't. Good BUT i think you have to

1608
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 5: bring somebody in BECAUSE i think if You're James, gladstone

1609
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 5: you've already set a precedent of there's got to be

1610
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 5: a standard around, here and right now that standard isn't

1611
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 5: being reached with With Cam Little AND i, understand like

1612
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 5: a kicker is, different, Right like this isn't like a

1613
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 5: wide receiver dropping a ball where it, say, okay try

1614
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 5: to get him go on some, more get in some,

1615
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 5: confidence try to scheme up. Something either you make your

1616
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 5: kicks or you. Don't and right now he's not making his.

1617
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 5: Kicks AND i hate to say, it but if you

1618
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 5: watch around THE, nfl a fifty yard kick now it's

1619
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 5: a chip. SHOT i never thought i'd be saying, that but,

1620
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 5: like anybody's making a fifty yard. Kick so if that's

1621
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 5: the conversation we're, having it doesn't hurt to bring somebody else.

1622
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 5: IN i don't care if eventually somebody else comes in

1623
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 5: and replaces him and he goes To seattle Like myers

1624
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 5: dead he's An all, pro that's, Fine just LIKE i

1625
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,560
Speaker 5: don't care About Quincy williams leaving here and then he

1626
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 5: goes To New york and he's An All pro and.

1627
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 5: Stuff it's just like it's not working here right. Now

1628
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 5: AND i think all you can do is at least

1629
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 5: bring in some competition and make him feel comfortable a

1630
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 5: little bit because.

1631
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 3: He's extra points. Too yeah, yeah so it's it's just.

1632
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 2: Too in that other game.

1633
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 3: Too yeah, yeah SO i think they need they need.

1634
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 3: TO i wouldn't bring It boddy in.

1635
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 4: Yet BUT i tell you, what if he misses the

1636
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 4: kick in the next, game not only is he Not

1637
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 4: i'm bringing somebody in and if he kicks, him he's

1638
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 4: gonna be my.

1639
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 3: Kicker you're gonna cut him and you. Can't you gotta

1640
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 3: have confidence your.

1641
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 4: Kicker but here's the other part of, that the whole

1642
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 4: make the set of the yard field goal in?

1643
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 3: Preseason what did that do to the?

1644
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 5: Kid it didn't help, Right.

1645
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 2: Well it's not let's say it's not the. Leg he's

1646
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 2: he's kicking it far. Enough it's just not, right the correct.

1647
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 3: Right but do you put so much into you know

1648
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 3: WHAT i?

1649
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 5: Mean everywhere we're all talking between.

1650
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 3: It sure he, can he can boom, it but he's

1651
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 3: not putting between the. Uprights it doesn't.

1652
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 5: Count, YEAH i mean in retrospect and hopefully this this

1653
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 5: thing shakes out and he gains more confidence. Again but

1654
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 5: that's seventy yard in the. Preseason that obviously doesn't count

1655
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 5: any kind of record. Books that may have been been

1656
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 5: his biggest. Detrimental, see but he's in The hall Of.

1657
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 4: Fame the balls in The hall Of, fame so he's

1658
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 4: got that going for. Him he just can't make any

1659
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 4: kicks when it.

1660
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,959
Speaker 3: Counts what about the. Punter the punter hadn't been as great.

1661
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 2: Either special teams as a whole is a little also for,

1662
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 2: me that one little bit of momentum you almost got

1663
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 2: With Parker washington's kick, Return and yes it was ticky.

1664
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: Tacky DO i think it was a great, Call but,

1665
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 2: no Jarn jone shouldn't have been anywhere near it because

1666
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 2: park already had the ball and was running by the,

1667
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: guy so he shouldn't even have been in the. Mix

1668
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: and with that, field he was gonna fly right by

1669
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 2: him with the wet field, Anyway so for, me don't

1670
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 2: give them the opportunity to make that. Call, yeah and

1671
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 2: just that. Frustration so FOR i, mean there are many

1672
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 2: problems on the team right, now but even special teams

1673
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 2: not even helping you.

1674
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 3: Out you're, like what's Slogan cook's average right? Now it's

1675
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 3: got to be. SIGNIFICANT i haven't looked at it, Today

1676
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 3: but not from, Him.

1677
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 5: Pete you've been around a lot of regimes and a

1678
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 5: lot of coaches and. EVERYTHING i, mean when you have

1679
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 5: the players that you count on that aren't playing up

1680
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 5: to their, potential whether it's on special, teams whether it's

1681
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 5: A Brian thomas, JUNIOR i, mean you can go all

1682
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 5: around the board. Here if you have players that aren't

1683
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 5: playing up their. Potential and it's not just one, phase

1684
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 5: not one side of the, ball it's. EVERYWHERE i, mean

1685
01:11:58,439 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 5: do you have to take yourself buy like as a

1686
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 5: co and look at yourself and be, Like, okay whatever

1687
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 5: we're doing in terms of our, schedule in terms of

1688
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 5: practice and, everything it's not. Working and do you almost

1689
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 5: like tear it down and then build it back up

1690
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 5: in this bye week and kind of restructure everything because it's.

1691
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 3: It that's, panic that's. Planic THOUGH i think it's too

1692
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 3: early for.

1693
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 5: That, OKAY i think it's too.

1694
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 3: Early by the, way they do have the same special

1695
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 3: teams coach. Too yeah they. Did they kept.

1696
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 2: Them, yeah He, farrewell.

1697
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 3: He, farmwell they kept. Him so it's the same. Guy

1698
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 3: so it can't.

1699
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: Be So logan's averaging forty eight yards forty three, net

1700
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 2: it's about middle of THE i mean for. Him were

1701
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: you seeing a lot better from?

1702
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 3: Him? Yeah and he's, Middle so he's middle the deep,

1703
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 3: snapper If i'm not. Mistaken there's been talk that he

1704
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 3: had been as GOOD i had.

1705
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 2: Heard.

1706
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1707
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 2: EARLY i think some OF i Mean cambell was kicking,

1708
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 2: now BUT i think some of it was the. Snap

1709
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 2: there was some snapping issues early preseason and then early

1710
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 2: in the season and then he was also got backed.

1711
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 2: UP i THINK i don't remember it was The seattle

1712
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 2: game or what another game you made a tackle and

1713
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: he got hurt as, Well, so, uh some question marks around.

1714
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 5: That you, know it's wild. Too we're sitting, here they're

1715
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 5: four and.

1716
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: THREE i know you told me at the beginning of

1717
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 2: Are i've been ecstatic And i'm, like.

1718
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 3: Turns on with.

1719
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 4: It but the problem is the way they got to

1720
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 4: four and. Three, yeah because you were four and one

1721
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 4: and now you were four And three's.

1722
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 5: Why, Yeah and it's it's what the wins look like

1723
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 5: where you, know some can call it, luck some some

1724
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 5: called garbage. Wins. Whatever you still got the w that's

1725
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 5: the most important. Thing but it's what the losses look

1726
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 5: like as.

1727
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: Well and it feels like they still have more to

1728
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 2: obviously after these last two.

1729
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 4: Losses but even the week that's gonna Define Liam cohen

1730
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 4: as a head coach this week and next, week this

1731
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 4: is when this is when you find out who he.

1732
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 3: Is AND i believe in.

1733
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 4: HIM i think he's done a great job so, far

1734
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 4: but this is when you're gonna find out who he

1735
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 4: is as a.

1736
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 5: Coach all.

1737
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,400
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Speaker 2: us here On Happy. Hour we're going to talk a

1741
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 2: little bit about by week potential changes and there's a lot

1742
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 2: of fan questions about what this team is going to

1743
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 2: look like going. Forward austin And pete will have the

1744
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: answers for you here On Jaguars Happy hour presented by

1745
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 2: Mister Chubby's.

1746
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 11: Wings certain things that today maybe little things that cause

1747
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 11: us to get pushed back on the drive or just

1748
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 11: like little stuff like. That for like it like stalls

1749
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 11: a drive or.

1750
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 5: Whatever if you.

1751
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 11: Finally get some good going and you got a flag

1752
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 11: or something and there's just stalls a.

1753
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 5: Drive LIKE i, said.

1754
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 11: Just got to execute and, finish finish off the drives

1755
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 11: the exasperated.

1756
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: SIDE i feel like that's a lot of us are

1757
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 2: feeling right now with this. Offense Kannani stevens in FOR Jp,

1758
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: Shadwick Pete, Prisco Austin. Lane Jaguars Happy hour. Continues this

1759
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: is the second hour presented By Mister Chubby's wings and

1760
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: it is time for fan. Questions we've been talking about.

1761
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 2: This some of them we've, addressed but we're going to

1762
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 2: reiterate what we've been going over. Today so our first

1763
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 2: fan question from Bush, Drive rich, says do you think

1764
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 2: our head coach is being in giving up on the

1765
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 2: run so? Early in the past two? Games we've been

1766
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 2: getting positive yards when we do run And, Pete i'm

1767
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 2: going to double down on this question a little bit

1768
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 2: because do you think this might be some of the

1769
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 2: original play calls and they're getting out of it as

1770
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 2: well because we have seen a lot of changes at

1771
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage.

1772
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 4: Lately, yeah we don't know the answer to that, question

1773
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 4: BUT i do know that when he comes to the

1774
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 4: line of, scrimmage if he has a, run he has

1775
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 4: a pass behind it and he can check to.

1776
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 3: That SO i don't know if he's checking to those

1777
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 3: or what the situation. Is but no matter what it, is.

1778
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 4: You send in a play call and give him two

1779
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 4: runs right like there was a run they ran.

1780
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 3: First. Off they run way too Many jets sweeps to my,

1781
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 3: life you know HOW i. Feel, also the.

1782
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 2: Fact the book is not out on that third down

1783
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 2: or fourth down when they run it to the, Right i'm.

1784
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 12: Surprised they ran one to the right the other day

1785
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 12: and it was a full overload to that, side and

1786
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 12: so what you should have done is checked out of

1787
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 12: that play and run to the weak side and run the.

1788
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 4: Football BUT i THINK i think he's checking out of some.

1789
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 4: Runs but you got to get back to running the,

1790
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 4: football no question about.

1791
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 5: It, YEAH i MEAN i think to start the game,

1792
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 5: out it looked like he checked out of a run

1793
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 5: to go to that pass and then he gets sacked

1794
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 5: for the first play of the, game, right and you

1795
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 5: already put your team behind a ball a little. Bit

1796
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 5: SO i think going forward you have to understand that

1797
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 5: your identity has to be to run the football right

1798
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 5: and everything comes. Second you're not gonna be A Baker

1799
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 5: mayfield Led buccaneers team that can pass forty fifty times

1800
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 5: a game and win football. Games, simply it's not what

1801
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 5: you have right. Now so the more you can Use

1802
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 5: travis etn and hopefully Use tuton as, well who's kind

1803
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 5: of an, AFTERTHOUGHT i feel like in this, offense.

1804
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 2: How we've gotten to that point, already which is.

1805
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 5: Which is, Wild BUT i think you have to use

1806
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,799
Speaker 5: a lot more of them just to keep defenses honest

1807
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 5: and try to control the clock win football, games.

1808
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 4: By the, way If tuton doesn't slip on his, Run,

1809
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 4: yeah he's got a nice little crease there to go

1810
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 4: to that thing up and turn it into a big.

1811
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 3: Play any other, Thing, austin you said he thought he

1812
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 3: checked out of the first one you can do a?

1813
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 3: Pass he made the right Jack.

1814
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, PETER i, MEAN i mean check real.

1815
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 5: Quick you've been a Big tuton guy and and, rhetoricully

1816
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 5: so he's showing. Glimpses if you could go back right,

1817
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 5: now you're taking him or. Scataboo, WELL i MEAN i still.

1818
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 3: Take i'd still take.

1819
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 5: Because because because it's back to. Back i'm just saying

1820
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 5: they went, like you, know right next to each.

1821
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 3: Other, YEAH i still.

1822
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 4: Take i'd still take To.

1823
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 3: WELL i think is gonna get it. Going there's gonna

1824
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 3: be a home runs. Available and you know what else

1825
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 3: he started to. Do he started to block better in

1826
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 3: the passing, game which he needed to.

1827
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 5: Do all.

1828
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 2: Right we talked a little bit about, this but could

1829
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: a lot of the offensive woes be tied to Losing Brenton? Strange,

1830
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 2: also Is trevor just not seeing the? FIELD i Think

1831
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 2: I'll Strange he's won for so much on both.

1832
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 4: Sides Having, yeah not Having strange is enormous because it's

1833
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 4: a run game and the passing, game And trevor's not

1834
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 4: seeing the. Field to answer that, question And i'll Be

1835
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,759
Speaker 4: i'll be FOR i was a bullish On Trevor lawrence

1836
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 4: AND i still think he can get out of his.

1837
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 3: Funk but the, processing seeing the, field the things that

1838
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 3: you have to do to be a star quarterback in this,

1839
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 3: league he's not doing right. Now for whatever, reason he's

1840
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 3: just not doing.

1841
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 5: It, yeah whether it's you can call it a lack of,

1842
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,839
Speaker 5: CONFIDENCE i Know moxie gets thrown around a, lot whatever

1843
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 5: you want to call, it he just he's not bringing

1844
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 5: it to the table right. Now AND i think once,

1845
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 5: again the ability to run the football is only going

1846
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,839
Speaker 5: to help with. That AND i think Losing Breton strange

1847
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 5: has hurt.

1848
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: You it's hurt in the past game and it's hurt

1849
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 2: in the blocking game for running as. Well so let's

1850
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the offensive. Line, pete this

1851
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 2: was the QUESTION i was talking, About Kaos Knox. Pete

1852
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 2: who are your five starting five offensive lineman moving? Forward

1853
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 2: can major changes happen in the bye? Week is it

1854
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 2: able to can you can you just do it that quick?

1855
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 4: Here They that's the question THAT i mentioned my. Them

1856
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 4: If milam can come back and, PLAY i would consider.

1857
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 2: Him where would you put right?

1858
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 3: Guards? Five right? Guard AND i know he.

1859
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 4: DIDN'T i don't think he worked there much, though did

1860
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 4: He he worked at right, tackle he worked at left

1861
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 4: guard him.

1862
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 2: Everywhere you work at right, guard probably not right guard,

1863
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 2: specifically but they had him a little bit of. Everywhere

1864
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 2: would you keep the tackles the way they?

1865
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 3: ARE i don't know what other options you.

1866
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 5: Have what are your?

1867
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 2: Options can you Move anton left and Put tackle Or

1868
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: tuma on the right?

1869
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 4: Side, YEAH i mean you could consider, that you, know

1870
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 4: and up And harrison wasn't great On, sunday but Until

1871
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 4: sunday he'd actually been pretty. Good so, yeah, Look Walker

1872
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 4: little had a terrible game Against. Seattle he had a

1873
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 4: couple of bad plays On. Sunday he wasn't awful On.

1874
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 4: Sunday the left guard was terrible Against, seattle was okay On,

1875
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 4: sunday not.

1876
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 3: Great hainesy played okay On. Sunday the right guard was

1877
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 3: the problem and and he kind of bled over to

1878
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 3: the right. Tackle so IF i had to make one,

1879
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 3: CHANGE i consider it i'd consider right, Guard i'd look

1880
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 3: at see if milam or then a dog will play

1881
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 3: there in the.

1882
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 2: Preseason here's the.

1883
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 3: Problem when you do, that you're admitting a money.

1884
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 2: Mistake, yeah and you just brought them in.

1885
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 3: Right you're admitting a money.

1886
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 4: Mistake and teams are less apt to admit money mistakes

1887
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 4: than you'd.

1888
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 3: Believe we've seen that.

1889
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 5: Before for that would kind of be the, first like

1890
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 5: In James glasson saying, hey my, bad you know like,

1891
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 5: that that would be the first instance right, There And

1892
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 5: i'm not sure if you don't have that in your.

1893
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 2: Resume i'll give them credit for, it, though because as

1894
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 2: much as we talked about the past regime not emitting,

1895
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: mistakes that was one of my biggest issues because this

1896
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 2: is a you, know it's. Gambles when you're drafting. Pick

1897
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 2: you don't know what anybody's going to. Be, necessarily you're

1898
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 2: gambling on a lot of. Stuff AND i think the

1899
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 2: last regime's inability to acknowledge that really hurt. Them so

1900
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 2: hopefully that's not something we'll have to deal.

1901
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 3: With. You, well let's let's be. Real they left the

1902
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 3: cover Bear, okay.

1903
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 4: The cover was so you go out and you got

1904
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 4: to try and with the money to fix fix what

1905
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 4: was the mess that was left. Behind and there's not

1906
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 4: exactly a big glut of offensive lineman look a good

1907
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 4: offensive lineman on the, market so you probably end up

1908
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 4: overpaying for a guy in McCarry who was just.

1909
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 2: Okay, well it's also someone that played multiple positions, right

1910
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 2: so we don't even know if he necessarily has like

1911
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 2: a home position because HE'S i think he had played

1912
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 2: all five positions on the line with that was like

1913
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 2: the thing coming.

1914
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 3: In it was a left guard for The ravens last

1915
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 3: year and was just, okay.

1916
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 5: Yeah and then when it comes to the tackles real quick,

1917
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 5: TOO i think Like harrison's probably been the most consistent

1918
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 5: tackle that they have right, now and he's playing his

1919
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 5: best at right. TACKLE i wouldn't try to switch it

1920
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 5: up now and, Say, okay you're doing pretty well over,

1921
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 5: there but you know, what go to left tackle because

1922
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 5: it's more. Important LIKE i JUST i would keep it

1923
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 5: where it's. At hopefully walk a little can pick up

1924
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 5: his end of the deal a little, bit and if,

1925
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 5: not maybe you explort some. Options BUT i would keep

1926
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 5: the tackles right now where they're, at.

1927
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 4: And then they nakes floor options and you got the

1928
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,839
Speaker 4: same problem you have With Tyson. Campbell got a regime

1929
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 4: that gave a guy a big. Contract he's probably too

1930
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 4: big for what he is.

1931
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: Tackle, yep we'll see what changes come about in the bye.

1932
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: Week another bye week kind of. Question If pete was

1933
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 2: In gladstone's, position what moves or decisions would he make

1934
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 2: during the bye, week if any at, ALL.

1935
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 3: I would call around the league to see IF i

1936
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 3: could find a defensive tackle first and, foremost you Know

1937
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 3: Zach sealer In. Miami you, know If miami has a

1938
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 3: maybe one of the edge rushers In miami was willing

1939
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 3: to trade him for a ham sandwich or something Because

1940
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 3: miami is gonna have a fire sale As phillips And

1941
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 3: chubb or veteran pass. Rushers Zac seeler just got a new.

1942
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 3: Contract BUT i looked at it and it's not that.

1943
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 3: Prohibitive you can bring him.

1944
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 4: In he hadn't played as, well And i'll give you,

1945
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 4: that but you, know he's been a good player in his.

1946
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 4: Career he got, contract and now he hasn't been as

1947
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 4: good in that mess In. Miami but maybe you bring

1948
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 4: a guy like that. IN i would ALSO i. Don't

1949
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 4: we don't know the answer to. This how injured is?

1950
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 4: Strange they said a? Month is it going to be?

1951
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,719
Speaker 3: Longer what will? BE i would if The ravens lose

1952
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 3: another game and they have a fire, Sale i'd call

1953
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 3: On Mark andrews as, well because he's in the final years.

1954
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 3: Deal you can make a. Move those are some of

1955
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 3: the MOVES i would. Consider H and there are some

1956
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 3: corners on the. Market but you, know, look corners on the,

1957
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,640
Speaker 3: market they don't if they're on the, market they're on

1958
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 3: the market for a.

1959
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 2: Reason he who what would you give up for some

1960
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 2: of the, stuff because it's not like they got a

1961
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 2: ton of picks to work with.

1962
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 3: Necessarily, well they've actually loaded up on, picks, remember so

1963
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 3: they could they give up some of. Them there's only

1964
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 3: a certain couple, guys defensive.

1965
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 4: Linemen they if you can Get Vac seeler for a

1966
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 4: late round, Pick i'm making that deal BECAUSE i think

1967
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 4: he could solidify their defensive. Line, now there was some

1968
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 4: talk that The titans were going to Move Jeffrey.

1969
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 2: Simmons what that would, take also That god himself could

1970
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 2: pull that one. Off all, right this one's for both

1971
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 2: of you. Guys So Jags fan fifty eight fifty. Eight

1972
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 2: what's your biggest concern right now at the bye week

1973
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 2: and how would you fix?

1974
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 3: It?

1975
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 2: Austin you go first with your Big there are, many

1976
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 2: there's a.

1977
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:11,600
Speaker 5: Couple what is your? BIGGEST i, Mean i'm on the

1978
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 5: fence with the, penalties But i'm gonna go that's kind

1979
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,040
Speaker 5: of low hanging, fruit Right So i'm gonna go ahead and,

1980
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 5: SAY i just think my biggest concern Is Trevor lawrence right,

1981
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 5: now BECAUSE i think that's the biggest. Priority it's Why

1982
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 5: Liam cohen was brought, Here it's why you Drafted Travis

1983
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 5: hunter where you, did why you sacrifice so much to get,

1984
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 5: Him it's the it's the emergen Of Trevor. Lawrence AND

1985
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 5: i think with this seven game sample, SIZE i think

1986
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 5: the most important thing of this season was to find

1987
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 5: out If Trevor lawrence is truly the guy or. Not

1988
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 5: And i'm sitting here seven games in the season And

1989
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 5: i'm telling, YOU i really don't. Know so that's my

1990
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 5: biggest concern right. Now i'm with.

1991
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 3: YOU i think that's number one. Priority and you pay

1992
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 3: that guy that. Money forget about the money you draft

1993
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 3: them number one.

1994
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 4: Overall he's supposed to be the savior for the, franchise

1995
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 4: and right now he's not playing like. It and the

1996
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 4: amazing thing is you go look at his numbers On

1997
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 4: sunday and you, go really that.

1998
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 3: Bad he didn't turn it over no.

1999
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 4: Interceptions, see BUT i have a theory on, interceptions And

2000
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 4: i'm in the minority on this.

2001
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 3: One you're gonna throw interceptions if you're taking chance in.

2002
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks if you're not taking, chances you're not gonna throw.

2003
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 4: Interceptions AND i think this team has gotten to the

2004
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 4: point where he's playing far too safe on. Offense and you,

2005
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 4: know LIKE i told, you the shots in the in

2006
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 4: the hole in this.

2007
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 3: On the second level against cover, Two, yeah those are,

2008
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 3: there but you got to put.

2009
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 4: Them on, time and you got to make the throw

2010
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 4: on time and put it in the right. Spot if you,

2011
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 4: don't they're gonna pick that. Off AND i don't think

2012
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 4: he's taking the. Chances So i'm with you one hundred.

2013
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 4: Percent Is Trevor lawrence the rest of the.

2014
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 2: WAY i don't know what the, priority how we're gonna fix,

2015
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 2: it BUT i know it's gotta get.

2016
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 3: Fit it's right. Here he's got to fix it right.

2017
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 5: Here, Yeah, Yeah AND i think that's that's really the frustrating,

2018
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 5: thing this whole. Process, right it'd be one thing where

2019
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 5: if you saw the mechanics aren't where they're supposed to,

2020
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 5: be if you saw the decision, makings like we've seen

2021
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 5: the good Of Trevor, lawrence, right we've seen the great

2022
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 5: Of Trevor. Lawrence like we've seen small samples of, it

2023
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 5: but it's been. There it's just now unlocking it and

2024
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 5: having at a consistent basis BECAUSE i think it tells

2025
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 5: a lot OF i think the Signature Trevor lawrence played

2026
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 5: this year is The Stumble, rooskie, which which is. Great

2027
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 5: at the time was all, right it was, fine we

2028
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 5: beat the, chiefs but now looking back on it's like

2029
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 5: that's what we have to hang a hand right, Now

2030
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 5: like not so, good, right you.

2031
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 3: See BUT i think the Signature Trevor lawrence play is

2032
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 3: the sideline shot To Brian thomas to set up The stumble.

2033
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,799
Speaker 3: Route there are only a few humans on the planet

2034
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 3: that make that. Throw he just doesn't. Make and SOMETIMES

2035
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:36,879
Speaker 3: i think when he's.

2036
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 4: Forced to make, throws it's either you, know if he's

2037
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 4: picked off, there oh, well you know WHAT i, mean

2038
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 4: he's trying to come from behind to win the.

2039
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 3: Game he plays. Better he saw it against The chargers

2040
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 3: back in the day in the.

2041
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:53,600
Speaker 4: Playoffs i'm, done, Mum kim, chum AND i think he

2042
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 4: starts pressing when it's an even even.

2043
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 2: FIELD i started putting more pressure on him.

2044
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 4: Beforehand we'll just tell them you're down, fifteen go make place.

2045
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 2: Test we'll start down. Fifteen just start.

2046
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 5: Stop taking the ball at you and the coin. Toss

2047
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 5: go on defense. First let them do their. Thing if

2048
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 5: they get three points to seven, points then Put trevor out.

2049
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 5: There let's go, here you.

2050
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 3: Go reverse.

2051
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 2: Psychology maybe that'll work for. Us all. Right coming up

2052
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 2: after the, break we'll talk a little bit about what's

2053
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 2: going on around THE nfl and a little preview Of

2054
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 2: Monday Night Football Jaguars Happy, hour presented to you by

2055
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 2: Mister chubby's.

2056
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 6: Wings dropping Is trevor fires it deep.

2057
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 5: Downfield that balls caught.

2058
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 3: By Travis hunters in the ends one.

2059
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: Touchdown Frank benjie with the call the game presented by

2060
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 2: Coil fen since nineteen twenty. Seven we've been around the

2061
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 2: block and fenced it. Too not a lot of options For.

2062
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 2: Frank nothing against, him but that was a tough game

2063
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 2: for him to call. Him Sure Kinanie steven's in FOR

2064
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 2: Jp Shadwick Pee Prisco Austin lane with Me Jaguars Happy

2065
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,560
Speaker 2: hour presented by Mister Chubby's wings from The Hyundai. Studios

2066
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 2: and let's talk a little bit about what's going around

2067
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 2: the going on around THE nfl as we keep up

2068
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 2: with some of these other. Teams Obviously Thursday Night, Football

2069
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 2: steelers And. Bengals bengals got to win over The steelers,

2070
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 2: there Which Jayalen ramsey had a tough night of. It

2071
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 2: our old friend, here but it was.

2072
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 3: Awful he was all he looked in that.

2073
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 2: One they definitely. Did Mike tomlin cooks up some stuff most,

2074
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 2: weeks but that was a little tough for. Him bears

2075
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 2: beating The, Saints browns beat The. Dolphins who The dolphins

2076
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 2: just look that one's rough down. There The raiders getting

2077
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 2: shut up by The chiefs thirty one, nothing and then

2078
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 2: The panthers look out thirteen and thirteen to six win

2079
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 2: over The. Jets they have the same record as The

2080
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: jags right. Now The panthers do.

2081
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 5: Thought you know what they.

2082
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 3: Do they run the ball and they take advantage of bad.

2083
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 3: TEAMS i mean they think about. Them we beat the

2084
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 3: last couple of, weeks they beat The, dolphins who.

2085
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 4: Stink they beat The cowboys run defense by running for

2086
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 4: two hundred yards against, them and then they beat The,

2087
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 4: jets and that's what they're.

2088
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 3: Doing.

2089
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 2: Absolutely Patriots buffalo this, week by the, way so we'll

2090
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,320
Speaker 2: we'll see how it. Goes, Yes, Patriots Mike rabel getting

2091
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,879
Speaker 2: a little revenge going Into tennessee and thirty one thirteen.

2092
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 2: There don't look now At patriots looking pretty good as.

2093
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, WELL i love to all of The titans

2094
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 5: to let go of their coach already because they didn't

2095
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 5: want able to breathe the reason why you, know he

2096
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,679
Speaker 5: got fired or. Whatever so, Yeah, BRABEL i, Mean drake

2097
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 5: may looks look like the real deal.

2098
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 2: Here one of the best things that.

2099
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 3: Happened, quarterback, coach. Quarterback and by the, way we talk about.

2100
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 3: Travel The patriots played three straight road games and won

2101
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 3: all of.

2102
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 2: Them, yeah, yes they. Did good to See broncos with

2103
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 2: the comeback of the century there the other night against The.

2104
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 3: Giants that's A giants choke thirty three points in the fourth.

2105
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 3: Quarter thirty three they. Scored that should never.

2106
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 5: Happen do you Think Brian daviles on the hot seat their.

2107
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 2: PETE i think he got a little calm after He

2108
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 2: Jackson dark and he was, like, Oh i'm.

2109
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 3: Good oh.

2110
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 5: Yeah you know why.

2111
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i think they got life With jack And. Dart.

2112
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 4: Yeah AND i think you don't want to make that

2113
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 4: change because you can see that he understands and likes the,

2114
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 4: offense and you got to start them all over.

2115
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 3: Again SO i think he.

2116
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 2: Stays packers beat The cardinals yesterday and then my biggest

2117
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 2: concern thus, far The colts are just reeling them off

2118
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:18,640
Speaker 2: another win over The chargers. YESTERDAY i thought it was

2119
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 2: going to Be. Jaguars texans are the biggest. Problem now

2120
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:23,680
Speaker 2: it's shifted and The colts. Are they're looking for real for.

2121
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 3: Sure i'll tell you.

2122
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 4: WHAT i actually didn't believe in The colts because of

2123
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 4: their teams they. Beat BUT i said if they went

2124
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,520
Speaker 4: to The chargers and handled, business AND i believe.

2125
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,719
Speaker 3: Now and you, know we talk about offensive line. Play

2126
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 3: that's the reason they're good on. Offense they're averaging thirty

2127
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 3: three points a. Game the offensive. Line they got rid

2128
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 3: of their center and their right guard last.

2129
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 4: Year kelly And freezer now went over and starting In,

2130
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 4: minnesota and they brought In bordalini to play, center In

2131
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 4: conclaves to play right. Guard their line is as good

2132
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 4: as any in the league right. Now and that's Why

2133
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 4: Jonathan taylor's in THE mvp. Conversation it's Why Daniel jones

2134
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 4: putting up big.

2135
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 5: Numbers Tyler warren is also going to be a. PROBLEM

2136
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 5: i think for years and years of Cold, man that

2137
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 5: guy was the real.

2138
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 3: Deal yeah, There no matter what you, know they're not

2139
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:08,879
Speaker 3: winning In jacksonville BECAUSE.

2140
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 2: I never Do, pete knock on wood right now.

2141
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,520
Speaker 5: And just stopp.

2142
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 3: Now, no BUT i did, lock dave you and. FORGOT

2143
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 3: i locked The chiefs. Game remember.

2144
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 2: Did we'll give you credit for.

2145
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 3: THAT i haven't been. Back you did lock.

2146
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 2: It cowboys getting the double digit win over forty, four

2147
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 2: twenty two over The, commanders and then the forty nine

2148
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 2: ers back on. TRACK i think they got. Kittlebacks they

2149
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:33,639
Speaker 2: get the twenty to ten win over The. Falcons also

2150
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:36,519
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Speaker 2: Jags and let's talk About Monday night. FOOTBALL a pair

2155
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 2: of games tonight starting at Seven, Detroit Baker mayfield and

2156
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay buccaneers taking on The. Lions bucks are banged,

2157
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 2: up but they're playing great. Football The lions want to

2158
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 2: get a bounce back win after that loss to The.

2159
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 2: Chiefs who you got in The? MotorCity going to.

2160
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 3: Take The, BUCK i mean The bucks. WILL i think

2161
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 3: The lions will win a close, one BUT i think

2162
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 3: The bucks are gonna score a lot of points That

2163
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 3: they're so banged up on defense In, detroit but they're

2164
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 3: banged up on offense In.

2165
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 4: Tampa But baker's playing so, Well i'll Take i'll take

2166
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 4: The lions to win a close.

2167
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 5: One, YEAH i think The lions as. Well this feels

2168
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 5: like That Jared goff five hundred yard by The Night

2169
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 5: football night. Right He's he's literally due for one of

2170
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 5: those every single. Year this seems like the night that's gonna.

2171
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 3: Happen i'm Taking.

2172
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 2: BAKER i love. It it's got so much. Attitude he'll

2173
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 2: find a. Way he'll find a. Way and then a

2174
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 2: late one out last The Houston texans coming off the bye,

2175
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 2: week they have to travel out To Seattle, luminfield facing

2176
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 2: off against The seahawks who are hitting their. Stride who

2177
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 2: you got in the? Nightcap this game might be over in.

2178
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 4: Two hours and ten minutes because neither team can do anything.

2179
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 4: Offensively these defenses are really.

2180
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 2: Which is gonna starts at?

2181
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 4: Ten you Saw seattle's defense and they can attack the

2182
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 4: quarterback and the other.

2183
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 3: Side The texans can't. WALK i, mean it gave up

2184
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:00,080
Speaker 3: a lot of pressures ON.

2185
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 5: Cj.

2186
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 4: Stroud So i'm going With. Seattle even Though seattle hasn't

2187
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 4: been as good at. Home they've been great on the

2188
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 4: road and haven't been just good at.

2189
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 3: Home But i'll Take.

2190
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 5: SEATTLE i Think houston's got a new found. CONFIDENCE i

2191
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 5: don't like them going on the road To, seattle a

2192
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 5: tough place to, play BUT i just think for whatever,

2193
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 5: Reason houston will find a. WAY i don't like admitting

2194
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 5: it because now you're a neck and neck with The

2195
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,679
Speaker 5: Jacksonville jaggars in THE Afc, South BUT i Think houston's

2196
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 5: got this one.

2197
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 2: TONIGHT i Think i'm With pete in the sense that

2198
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 2: seeing That seahawks team get After Trevor, lawrence The texans

2199
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 2: have still not figured out a way to protect. C. J,

2200
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 2: Stroud so seven sacks against the. DRAGS i think it's

2201
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 2: gonna look something similar in this. One So i'm gonna

2202
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 2: go With seattle as. Well all, right let's quickly wrap

2203
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 2: things up with we're going into the bye. Week we

2204
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 2: talked a ton about the issues we've seen in the

2205
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 2: last couple of. Weeks if You're Liam Cohen, austin what's

2206
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 2: your main. FOCUS i Know Trevor, lawrence we got to

2207
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 2: get him on, track but, yeah as a, coach what

2208
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 2: you can, control what are you focusing?

2209
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 5: On, yeah you know, WHAT i have to go back

2210
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 5: to the basics because it all starts with the, penalties

2211
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 5: and it starts with playing you, know catchup footballs and

2212
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 5: things like, that very basic. Things and we heard this

2213
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 5: in the. PRESEASON i forgot what week WE i think

2214
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 5: it was week one through The pittsburgh, game where it's,

2215
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 5: like we have to go back to the. Basics you

2216
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 5: have to do the same thing here as. Well now

2217
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 5: doesn't be a really physical week of, practice but it's

2218
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 5: got to be more of sharpening the, mind being mental

2219
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 5: and just you, know going back to what you. Know

2220
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 5: SO i think that's the main. Focus is just the.

2221
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:27,600
Speaker 4: Basics Get Trevor lawrence going and Get Brian thomas to

2222
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 4: realize what a special talent he can be if he

2223
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:32,560
Speaker 4: just decides to go do.

2224
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 2: It, Pete we've got a schedule that is favored for

2225
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 2: the back half when you go into a bye. WEEK

2226
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 2: i felt like this was kind of the gauntlet right

2227
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:43,560
Speaker 2: out of the, gate right you got The, chiefs The.

2228
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 2: Seahawks you're going To london to deal With La. Houston

2229
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 2: at the, time we didn't know what they were going to.

2230
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 2: Be this was the tough part of the schedule for.

2231
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 2: Me this part coming up, though because they played so

2232
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 2: much at. Home they've got three out of four are

2233
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 2: going to be, away so they're coming. Back they're going

2234
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:57,639
Speaker 2: To Las, vegas who.

2235
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 3: To, me that team.

2236
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 2: Stinks they Do and if you come out you don't

2237
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 2: play well against a team that is not, good that

2238
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:07,560
Speaker 2: is a giant concern for. Me so coming out and

2239
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 2: playing well in that game is going to be. Huge

2240
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 2: then you go on the road To, houston come back

2241
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 2: against The, chargers and then you're on the road again

2242
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 2: against The. Cardinals so how important is that? Stretch?

2243
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,640
Speaker 4: Pete three out of, four they got to get three

2244
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 4: out of, four whatever way you, get and you have

2245
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:21,560
Speaker 4: to get three out of.

2246
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 3: Four that's the WAY i see.

2247
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 4: It and and you know, what four out of four

2248
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 4: is possible if you play good, football because that's Not

2249
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 4: cardinals are a, tough physical, team but they're not a great.

2250
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 4: Team and you, Know houston's tough physical and, defense but

2251
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 4: they're not great on the offensive.

2252
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 3: Line you got to get three of. Those if You're,

2253
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 3: jacksonville three of.

2254
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 5: THEM i THINK i have to get three as. Well

2255
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 5: BUT i want to go back to What pete said

2256
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 5: earlier in the. SHOW i think this bye week and

2257
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 5: then That raiders week is going to be an extremely

2258
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 5: important showing for The Jacksonville jaguars because that's a team

2259
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 5: you're supposed to. Beat and if you go out there

2260
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 5: and it's competitive and haven't forbid that you lose that, game,

2261
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 5: well then then you are going to have a laundry

2262
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 5: list of problems to sort. Through because that team right,

2263
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 5: now if you watch That Kansas city, game that they

2264
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 5: are not good by any. Capacity Max crosby's banged, up

2265
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 5: their defensive tackle got banged up as. Well there they

2266
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 5: have the. Injuries Jacobe myers doesn't want to be, there

2267
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 5: it's a team right for getting a win.

2268
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,639
Speaker 4: Again Rock bowers has them played, much you know They,

2269
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 4: yeah it's if you don't win that, game you got

2270
01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 4: major problems the rest of the.

2271
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 2: Way pe is The texans still in terms of the.

2272
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 2: Division obviously The colts have a great record right. Now

2273
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:27,640
Speaker 2: is it down to just The colts now or do

2274
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 2: you think The texans still might be in the mix

2275
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 2: in the second half of the season for the.

2276
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,600
Speaker 4: Division if you look at That texans, schedule it's so,

2277
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 4: BRUTAL i don't know how they can get out from underneath.

2278
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 3: It you, know everybody's, saying, well they beat The ravens

2279
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 3: when they went. Before The ravens stink the way they're

2280
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 3: constructed are right. Now, yeah so so you gotta kind

2281
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 3: of dismiss that a little. Bit where they, win they

2282
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:49,640
Speaker 3: beat The titans in.

2283
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 4: The ravens on back to back weeks and that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2284
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah so they're not we don't know what they.

2285
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 3: Are we'll know more about them.

2286
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,759
Speaker 4: Tonight if they go To seattle and win a physical

2287
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 4: game against a good physical team Like, seattle then we'll

2288
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 4: sit there and we'll, Say, okay they're back and they're

2289
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 4: going to be in the.

2290
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,560
Speaker 3: Mix if they lose, TONIGHT i think they're out of the.

2291
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 3: Equation look at the rest of their. Schedule it is.

2292
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 2: Brutal all, right, everybody enjoy your bye. Week as much

2293
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 2: as we've talked about this, team they are four and

2294
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 2: three heading, in AND i think we would all take that.

2295
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 3: Week you're going to have the weekend. Off we're gonna be.

2296
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 2: Working Oh, pete we know you're working all the. Time

2297
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 2: i'll take my four. Days i'll take my four days.

2298
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 2: Off thank you for letting me sit in and FOR Jp, Austin.

2299
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 2: PETE i appreciate you guys so. Much AND jp will

2300
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 2: be back with you Next, monday so you guys can

2301
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 2: all poke fun at him. Then but until, then enjoy

2302
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 2: your weeks and we'll be back with you next week

2303
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 2: here On Happy. Hour