1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? Yes? 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 4: Are you ready for a break? 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 4: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: were on with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 6: It is Monday, December twenty third, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 6: episode number ninety. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break. 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 6: We are live from that s WBC Mortgage Studios at 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 6: the Star were presented by LGLG is the world's number 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 6: one O lead TV brand for eleven years in counting 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 6: See why at LG dot com Ford slash O lead EVO. 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 6: It is Christmas Eve Eve, and we get to. 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 4: Talk about why are you laughing? You never heard of 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 4: call that? 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 7: I've never heard of someone. 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 4: Christmas Eve? We are we are We get to talk 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 4: about a Cowboys win. That was That was a. 23 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: Look anti climactic. 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 6: Well it was a little anti climactic because I was 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 6: I was maybe the only person that was still like 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 6: Cowboys are still in it and the game I thought 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 6: would be, Oh, of course they're going to win. That 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 6: game ends up just falling apart. The Eagles had the 29 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 6: game against Washington and they just found a way they 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 6: refused to win, and uh so they gave up that game. 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 6: So by the time the Cowboys started their game, they 32 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 6: had already been eliminated. But we get to talk about 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 6: a win Cowboys player, I think pretty well, uh in 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 6: the twenty six to twenty fourth victory over the Tampa 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 6: Bay Buccaneers on Sunday Night Football. So start first going 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 6: around the table, I want to hear from you guys, 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 6: what you think was the story of the game. 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 4: Nick, Let's start with you. 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still a lot to fight for. 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 8: If you're looking at this team, there are twenty six 41 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 8: guys on this on this roster that are heading into 42 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,639 Speaker 8: free agency whenever the season ends. And you look around 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 8: at some of the big contributors yesterday and you'll see 44 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 8: a lot of those twenty six names that popped up. 45 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 8: You could look at Jordan Lewis having the interception and 46 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 8: a season where he's had probably the best year of 47 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 8: his career. I think he had his best game of 48 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 8: the season last night, and he had that interception on 49 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 8: Jayla McMillan and the end zone that was just incredible, 50 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 8: rip the ball away from him. You can look at 51 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 8: a Rico Daubto over the course of season has been great. 52 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 8: Obviously last night was not. And then Cooper Rush the 53 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 8: night that he had, specifically the first half that he 54 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 8: had in being able to establish momentum for that offense. 55 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 8: If you had told me coming into this game that 56 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 8: the Cowboys would win with only thirty one rushing yards, 57 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 8: I would have said you were crazy. So you got 58 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 8: to give credits to Cooper Rush in that sense. But 59 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 8: this team fights man and Ceedee Lamb, you know, going 60 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 8: through this ac joint injury that he's been battling for 61 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 8: the last eight weeks. We asked him in the locker 62 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 8: room after like why why do you keep playing? He's like, 63 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 8: I'm fighting for my brothers. I love this game that 64 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 8: much I want to be out there with them. So 65 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 8: you know, that is not the sign of a culture 66 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 8: or a deeper conversation, not a sign of a coaching 67 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 8: staff that is going to let this team lay over 68 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 8: over the course of these next two weeks. Still a 69 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 8: lot to play for with a lot of these guys 70 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 8: with so much uncertainty ahead in the offseason, and they 71 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 8: certainly showed that last night. 72 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, I wanted to start off. I think a lot 73 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 9: of this game was about Cooper Rush. Yeah, because I 74 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 9: honestly I was not too the thoughts about him having 75 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 9: to deal with linebacker pressure, him dealing with secondary pressure, 76 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 9: him dealing with potential pressure right in his face. Hacked 77 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 9: the touchdown pass. You know, he had to tot her. 78 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 9: I mean he right in his face. You know, he 79 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 9: he had you know, he was defensive lineman right there 80 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 9: in his face. B tove right in his face. And 81 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 9: you know, I think that he managed this thing really 82 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 9: really well. I was worried about him being a statue 83 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 9: back there, and but you know, when he had to 84 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 9: make the pressure throws, he was able to do it. 85 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: I was glad to see him throw the ball down 86 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: the field. 87 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 9: You know, we were breaking down the Buccaneers. We were 88 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 9: talking about where this ball needs to go. That these 89 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 9: guys give you a little cush and they play a 90 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 9: lot of single high and they're going to give you 91 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 9: some opportunities. 92 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: And they did that. 93 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 9: Dallas did a great job with some of the route 94 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 9: combinations to get the ball into the middle. Of the 95 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 9: field to make some easy throws for Cooper Rush. But overall, 96 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 9: you know, I mean the second half their offense was nothing, 97 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 9: but he didn't do anything to mess that game up, 98 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 9: you know, And I think that's exactly you needed. 99 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: And be steady he was. He was. We're at pinpoint 100 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: with where he needed to be with the ball. 101 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 9: He had some really good reads and you know, I 102 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 9: want to say this, I think he outplayed Baker Mayfield 103 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 9: last night. And it's not very often that you could 104 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 9: say that your backup quarterback is going to outplay a guy, 105 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 9: a quarterback who is, you know, one of the more 106 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 9: accurate quarterbacks in the league and his team is fighting 107 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 9: for a division championship. So a tip of the captain 108 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 9: Cooper Rush on that one. 109 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, and some of his movements, I'm like, oh, okay, 110 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 7: come on, go for Rush. I'm like, I knew I 111 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 7: liked you at some point. No, but great job by him. 112 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 7: Also a great job by Ceedee Lamb. Once again, I 113 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 7: think he's made up for him missing training camp and 114 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 7: that whole conversation when he was out holding out looking 115 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 7: for that contract. The fact that he's playing the way 116 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 7: that he is despite the injury that he's been suffering 117 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 7: with along the whole season. Has been very, very impressive 118 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 7: and kudous to him. But even though this is not 119 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 7: the storyline, necessarily the biggest storyline of the game, I 120 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 7: am wearing the T shirt over here. So I wanted 121 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 7: to give mister Brandon you can't even say how mister 122 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 7: Brandon Aubrey a huge, huge shout out, because man, again, 123 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 7: I feel like we apologize about something every week. This week, 124 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 7: I'll bring it back again that apology from us wondering 125 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 7: what's gonna happen with the kicker position when we were 126 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 7: about to get hit in the face with balls at 127 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 7: training camp and it was a whole mess. And while 128 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 7: he keeps impressing everybody, breaking wreckers, I think he has 129 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 7: what fourteen field goals fifty plus yard field goals of 130 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 7: the NFL record in a season and there's still two 131 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 7: games left and he's just he was great last night. 132 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 7: He was perfect, he was amazing, and just wanted to 133 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 7: give him a shout out. 134 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 4: I will say he has the playoff for me. 135 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. 136 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 8: I will say he is in like a Barry Bonds 137 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 8: Mark McGuire race with Kyami Fairburn because Kyamie Fairburn has 138 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 8: Thirteen's like it's going to be like back and back 139 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 8: and for the way, like they're just going to keep 140 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 8: breaking each other's record until one of them finally just 141 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 8: etches it. 142 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. 143 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 6: I think one of the big keys will be what 144 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 6: we saw last night, that team still fought even though 145 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 6: obviously they were eliminated before the game. My question will be, 146 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 6: and what I'll be looking at is how do we 147 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 6: see that same fight these next two weeks, because now 148 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 6: that you know you're eliminated, what does the preparation look like, 149 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 6: because that's where sometimes he can get in people's heads. 150 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 4: Once on Christmas it's over, Yeah, and it's just like 151 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: I don't have to watch this much film. Yeah, I 152 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 4: don't necessarily I forget this. 153 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 3: Where're starting to make to get out of the town. 154 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: It changed a little bit. 155 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 6: And again, everything we've seen from them up until this point, 156 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 6: they don't give up, like they keep fighting. 157 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: This coach has kept them engaged. Uh, this will be. 158 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 6: I think the hardest part for the coach to keep 159 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 6: them engaged during these next two weeks because it's just 160 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 6: natural everybody in the country, it's natural you kind of 161 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 6: let down a little bit. When you get to this 162 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 6: part of the year because it's it's the holidays, and 163 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 6: especially if there are no games that really are going 164 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 6: to matter for the postseason. Obviously I wonder how that works. 165 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 6: But everything I've seen so far, I give a lot 166 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 6: of credit to coach McCarthy and this coaching staff because 167 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 6: despite everything that's happened in season, and how much they 168 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 6: could have just let everything go in the tank, they 169 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 6: did not. 170 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 4: They kept playing hard. 171 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 7: It's an interesting point you make there because even though 172 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 7: they found out they were already eliminated before playing the game, 173 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 7: the preparation of the race was there, it was done. 174 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 7: They took care of it. They were heading into that 175 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 7: game as if they were still in the run or 176 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 7: there was still a chance. So you saw the reflection 177 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 7: of that. Now it's gonna be interesting watching what happens 178 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 7: is in this next two weeks. But like you said, 179 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 7: everything we've seen so far is that they're not giving 180 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 7: up and they're gonna keep going out there and again, 181 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 7: when you loose, when it comes down to the game, 182 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 7: they're gonna show up and play hard because physically that's 183 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 7: how you get through the game and you it avoids 184 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 7: you from potential injuries that could occur, but it'll be 185 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,559 Speaker 7: interesting to see you. As far as preparation throughout the weeks. 186 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think they're playing hard for each other. You know, 187 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 9: McCarthy and the coaches. You can absolutely tip your cap 188 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 9: to him. Nobody on short weeks gets his team ready 189 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 9: more than this guy. I'll give him credit for that. 190 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 9: Nick mentioned it in his open statement though, twenty seven guys, 191 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 9: twenty seven guys, you're trying to put good film out there. 192 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 9: Guys like Jordan Lewis, Guys like OsO Diggi Zua, guys 193 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 9: like Chauncey Golston. You know, they've got some guys that 194 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 9: really aren't established as well. You know, you look at 195 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 9: brock Hoffman making nine hundred and twenty seven dollars, not 196 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 9: established as a as a right guard, not established really 197 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 9: as a player, really first time opportunity playing. 198 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 3: At a very high level. 199 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 9: If you look at the value over how that kind 200 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 9: of translates, he's like a sixteen million dollar player playing 201 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 9: guard for you right now. So they're getting a lot 202 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 9: of guys that are stepping up way beyond what their 203 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 9: pay is, and I think that's impressive. I think that 204 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 9: they're like I say, if this was a team like 205 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 9: say the New York Jets or another team that's a 206 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 9: veteran team, this thing amount have gone south a lot faster. 207 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 9: You know, we're seeing some teams that are just older 208 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 9: veteran teams that are like they don't see they see. 209 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: The light at the end of the tunnel. 210 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 9: Its the oncoming train, you know, and they're trying to 211 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 9: get out of the season. Nobody's trying to get hurt. 212 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 9: But there's you know, the coaches are coaching for their jobs, 213 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 9: the players are playing for new contracts. 214 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: You know. 215 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 9: It's it's it's a recipe for to continue to try 216 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 9: and do things the right way instead of throwing in 217 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 9: the towel and letting the think. 218 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: Fall completely heart. 219 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 9: If I give credit to one more player that I 220 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 9: don't think we mentioned, Nick Vigil played his ass off 221 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 9: last night for you. And Nick's usually the guy who 222 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 9: never practices because he's got Nick tells you he's got 223 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 9: a foot injury. Every week he tells you he's not 224 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 9: going to practice foot injury. He's out playing. Last night, 225 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 9: his ten tackles you were worried about. You were worried about, 226 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 9: where were the tackles going to come from, and especially 227 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 9: against a team that physically runs the football. You know, 228 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 9: Kendrick's last minute scratch. Basically, Nick Vigil having a step 229 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 9: in probably didn't get a whole hell of a lot 230 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 9: of work. 231 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: Great job by. 232 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 9: Him doing what he needed to do to get that 233 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 9: done for the defense last night. 234 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: Yep, all right, let's take our first break. 235 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 6: When we come back, we'll dive deeper into some of 236 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 6: these conversations. We'll talk about the offense and we'll talk 237 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 6: about First up, we'll be Cooper Rush and his night 238 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 6: last night. We'll talk about it. 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You don't need that. 301 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 7: You know, you start playing well at the end. 302 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: The playoffs, the scheme now. 303 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: And knows you didn't have to get on another plane. 304 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 6: After the Philadelphia game, don't even bring not just that 305 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 6: game was so they just everything about it that the 306 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 6: Eagles were just so far advanced, Like it's like, how 307 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 6: are they? 308 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 4: How did they not win that game? 309 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: It just they reverted back to some of their old 310 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: ways of playing defense. 311 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 6: I mean, I know they lost some guys so that 312 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 6: that certainly didn't help. 313 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 8: But man, your head coach, you were always. 314 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: Always in the game, always. 315 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: In the game of ni in the game. 316 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 6: Okay, anyway, anyway, the man I would have been on 317 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 6: this show today, like there's a chance, there's a chance. 318 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 9: They're breathing Cincinnati game and you can there's so many 319 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 9: games you wish There's so many games you wish had back. 320 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 9: He wish he could be playing New Orleans this week. Yeah, 321 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 9: I mean just playing Atlanta this week. I mean, I 322 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 9: know Atlanta, I mean, how about Atlanta? 323 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: Quick? How about Michael Pennick? Though? How about that? Your 324 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 3: your division is on the line, and you've now gone 325 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: to the rookie quarterback. 326 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, to go win the same Michael Pennick though one 327 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 9: at Indiana, won at Washington. 328 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: He's been a winner. 329 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 4: He played his butt off. Yes, yeah, that was a 330 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: good game for him. 331 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: Good game to play against the Giants though. 332 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 4: No doubt to get you started. 333 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, but it got you. 334 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 9: It got you momentum you needed to maybe close this 335 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 9: thing out and win the South. 336 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt. All right, let's let's talk about Cooper Rush. 337 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 6: Yesterday, he was twenty six thirty five seventy four percent 338 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 6: completion rate, two hundred and ninety two yards in the air, 339 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 6: one touchdown, zero interceptions, a one oh eight point three 340 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 6: passer rating. Here's what I what I also noticed as 341 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 6: I was looking at some of the advanced stats on 342 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 6: the game, he actually only faced pressure on seventy five percent. 343 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 4: Of his dropbacks. 344 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 7: Uh. 345 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 6: And on those drop backs he was twenty three of 346 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 6: twenty seven for twohundred and sixty eight yards. On the 347 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 6: ones where he faced pressure twenty five percent of them, 348 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 6: he was only three of eight for twenty four. 349 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 4: Yards with an eighty five passer rating. 350 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 6: Do you think a lot of what we saw yesterday 351 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 6: from Cooper Rush, which I think may have been his 352 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 6: best game this year as a starter, do you think 353 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 6: a lot of that was about the fact that they could, 354 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 6: in a stat or the Buccaneers could not consistently get 355 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 6: pressure on him, and when he's not pressured, he can 356 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 6: tear you apart. 357 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's fair. I think it's also a 358 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 8: combination of him just being more comfortable. As a season 359 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 8: goes on, we're starting to see what reps could do 360 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 8: for him. Because even on the Jalen Tolbert touchdown, specifically 361 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 8: third down play, Vidavea absolutely blows up Brockaffman. Bro Kaffman 362 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 8: had a tough day yesterday, but Vidavea blows up brock 363 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 8: Kaffman and get and Cooper Rush knows he's going to 364 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 8: take a hit, he stands in and puts a perfect 365 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 8: ball over the middle of the Jaalen Tolber, who hauls 366 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 8: it in for the touchdown. 367 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: I think it's just that type of comfortability. 368 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 8: I don't think we saw in the first two or 369 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 8: three games that that he had whenever he came in 370 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 8: a start of this year. He had said last week 371 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 8: after the Carolina game that he feels like he's playing 372 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 8: the best football of his career right now. 373 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: And I understand why. 374 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 8: He sees that, why he believes that he's starting to 375 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 8: stack really good reps and it's starting to pay dividends 376 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 8: for this offense. I think also some credit has to 377 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 8: be given to the play caller as well. Coming out 378 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 8: and just establishing confidence for Cooper Rush in this game, 379 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 8: I think was really important. You understood that you had 380 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 8: you were most likely going to have a running game 381 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 8: that cannot get going against a really good defensive front, 382 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 8: against a really good second level in Tampa Bay. It's like, Okay, 383 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 8: I need Cooper Rush to help me win this game. 384 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 8: Let me build confidence for him. Let me take the 385 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 8: ball on the coin toss let's let's receive, let's build 386 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 8: confidence for Cooper. They come out on that first possession, 387 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 8: they run a bunch formations the whole time, quick past 388 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 8: the entire time, six for six, twenty one yards on 389 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 8: that opening drive, and just quick, quick, quick, quick action. 390 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 8: Get his brain moving quick, get those completions out in front. 391 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 8: Even if it did end in only three points, it 392 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 8: ended in points and an established confidence for this offense. 393 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 8: I think it did wonders for this offense as the 394 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 8: game went on. And when Cooper Rush is confident, I 395 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 8: think he plays it his best. 396 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 3: He's a Heisman Trophy killer, isn't he. 397 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: Yeah look for that, Yeah, four of them. 398 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: He's taking down these Heisman Trophy winners. So I love that. 399 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. 400 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 9: Both these quarterbacks played really well against man coverage, though, 401 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 9: and you watch the game and stuff like that. I 402 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 9: mean it was like a Baker Mayfield was just looking 403 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 9: at his numbers. He was eleven of twelve for a 404 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 9: buck thirty nine and Cooper was five or six for 405 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 9: sixty three. You know, against man coverage, and you know 406 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 9: both guys. Cooper was a little bit better against the 407 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 9: zone coverage stuff that sin say that Tampa bay was 408 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 9: thrown at him. 409 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: I'll say this if you want to. 410 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 9: You know, I was critical of Tolbert the route he 411 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 9: ran on the touchdown. I mean, give Cooper Rush a 412 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 9: lot of credit because you're going to watch the tape 413 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 9: and you're going to see Cooper Rush drop back and 414 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 9: he holds the ball. They're going to try and run 415 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 9: that thing across. They're going to try and run Tolbert 416 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 9: inside along the goal line and see if they can 417 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 9: hit him in the. 418 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: Middle of the field. 419 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 9: But what happens is David the linebacker, cuts him off, 420 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 9: and so now he has to adjust the route to 421 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 9: go north. And so Cooper Rush realized what was about 422 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 9: to happen, and he just allowed Tolbert to clear and 423 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 9: then got him the football. David fell down in the route, 424 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 9: So that was a really good read by Tober to 425 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 9: get north, and then Cooper rushed to standing there knowing 426 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 9: that a three hundred and fifty pounds man was about 427 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 9: the delivereral blow on him. So good for good for 428 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 9: both those guys getting it done. 429 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 7: You know, I'm having a hard time trying to not 430 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 7: allow myself mentally to get fooled by what's happening at 431 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 7: the end of the season, keeping in mind the opponents 432 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 7: that they faced this a few weeks, Yes, and they've 433 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 7: been competitive. And what you've seen on the offense, you 434 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 7: have to give credit to Mike McCarthy and the way 435 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 7: he has adjusted the play calling and helping position his 436 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 7: players in a better position with the calls. And also, 437 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 7: like Nick mentioned, I mean Cooper Rushia. Obviously you expect 438 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 7: anybody to come in and get better as the weeks 439 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 7: go by, so you can see him be more comfortable 440 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 7: and more confident. But when I said me not getting 441 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 7: fooled by what's happening at the end of the season, 442 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 7: it's like I've been very set on why I mean, 443 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 7: Mike McCarthy back as the head coach, but not as 444 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 7: the play caller. And even though I like what he 445 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 7: has done this past couple of weeks, I'm trying to, Hey, 446 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 7: remember what what happened throughout. 447 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 2: The Remember the whole season. 448 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 7: It's and the knives that went through my heart every loss. 449 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 7: So it's going to be interesting what's going to happen, 450 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 7: you know, with his contract and what the Cowboys decided 451 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 7: to do with. 452 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: Him extending Yeah, going to extending, Yeah, run this thing. 453 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: Back you're extending Mike Zimmer as well. 454 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're they're the package. 455 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the package. 456 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 9: It's like I think the people, I think, the people 457 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 9: that want Mike McCarthy back to appreciate Mike McCarthy, are 458 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 9: probably going to get their wish. Never seen the general 459 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 9: manager more giddy about a seven and eight team than 460 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 9: he is right now. He is him and Mike McCarthy, 461 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 9: and you know what, the folks like me that that 462 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 9: want to move on from him, you know what, we're 463 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 9: probably not going to get our wish here, and this 464 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 9: is you know that ed happens. But this general manager, 465 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 9: obviously him Stephen Jones, feel very comfortable. Will McClay feel 466 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 9: very comfortable with him. They're excited about the way the 467 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 9: team is playing. I think he has a hand of it. 468 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 9: I also think, as I mentioned, the players have a 469 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 9: hand in it, trying to get good tape out there 470 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 9: in case they move on. So never seen the general 471 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 9: manager this happy about a coach, and so to me 472 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 9: go ahead and extend and make everybody happy, get on 473 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 9: the phone called don Yee right now and get this 474 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 9: thing done. 475 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 8: I think part of the conversation that has to be 476 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 8: had specifically on the offensive side of the ball as 477 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 8: it pertains to McCarthy as a play caller, as the 478 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 8: head coach all of those things. Is you have Dak 479 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 8: Prescott for four more years, and looking at his age, 480 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 8: you would have to assume that it might only be 481 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 8: four more years. Are you willing to risk This is 482 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 8: just the question they have to ask themselves. Are they 483 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 8: willing to risk signing him to a to three year 484 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 8: extension and if it doesn't work out, changing coordinators with 485 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 8: only about a year or two left and down now. 486 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 8: I think that's that's something that they really have to 487 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 8: think about when it comes around. 488 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 3: I don't think they have. I don't think they have. 489 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 3: You think they have what I don't think they have. 490 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 9: I think they've made a decision on Mike McCarthy. I do, Yeah, 491 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 9: I do. I think they're I think they're totally comfortable 492 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 9: with Mike McCarthy. You know, I'd love to I'd love 493 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 9: to hear them this week talk about you know, hey, 494 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 9: we're going to extend Mike McCarthy. We're working on an 495 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 9: extension right now. 496 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 7: Are you kidding him? As a boy caller? 497 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: Sure? Sure? Keeping everything the same. 498 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 7: M you like pain? 499 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: I I don't know if I I don't. 500 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 8: I don't know if they've made the decision, though I 501 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 8: think that Jerry was pressed about it a little bit loud. 502 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: I think they have. I think they're really I don't 503 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: think that. 504 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 9: I don't think you would if you were not tremendously 505 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 9: happy with the direction this thing has been going, you 506 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 9: wouldn't have the reactions that he's been having, and we've had. 507 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 9: We've had Jerry Jones Stephen Jones on our station four 508 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 9: times a week, all four you know, four times a week, 509 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 9: and every single time nothing but positivity. And some point 510 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 9: you say, yes, you have to be positive, or you 511 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 9: just say no comment about that, you know. But I 512 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 9: I the way that the way that they're acting right now, 513 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 9: I think they've got their guy in mind. 514 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if they have their their mind 515 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 6: made up or not. What I will say is being positive. 516 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 6: They're being being overly powered. Positive for Jerry is normal 517 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 6: like that You're we're acting like that's not normal for Jerry. 518 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 6: Jerry is extremely optimistic, and Jerry is extremely That's why 519 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 6: I always That's why I But my point is, even 520 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 6: when the decision ends up being something different, Jerry tends 521 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 6: to be publicly very positive, like he tends to be 522 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 6: a very positive, sure person when it comes to how 523 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 6: he portrays the team to the general public. 524 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 4: So I don't know if that means. 525 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm taking any clues from that 526 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 6: that he's made a decision one way or the other. 527 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 6: I think this is typical Jerry, that Jerry's gonna always 528 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 6: be optimistic, and when he sees something that gives him 529 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 6: even more reason to be optimistic, he's gonna be even 530 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 6: more optimistic. 531 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: Like that's just how he is. 532 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 6: I don't know that that necessarily means anything to me 533 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 6: about what the decision will be. 534 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, I respect, we disagree, and I disagree in a 535 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 9: way because I feel like to me that they are 536 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 9: totally comfortable with Mike McCarthy as their head coach. 537 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 3: They are totally comfortable with him as that. 538 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 4: And that may be the case. 539 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 6: All I'm saying is I don't think that that how 540 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 6: Jerry is portraying the team and his happiness for the 541 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 6: for the fact that they're playing well the last five weeks. Sure, 542 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 6: I don't think that that's necessarily the indicator. I just 543 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 6: think that's who Jerry is Jerry. We always always talk 544 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 6: about Jerry being so optimistic. He's extremely optimistic when it 545 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 6: comes to how he portrays the team. 546 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 9: How hard would it be for him to walk away 547 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 9: from Mike McCarthy if in fact that that the way 548 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 9: that they're they're playing right now. 549 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 6: To be honest with I do I do think that 550 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 6: if you would have gone back, if you. 551 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 4: Say where was Jerry six weeks ago to where he 552 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 4: is now, then I agree with you. 553 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 6: I think he's probably more in a boat right now 554 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 6: where it's like, man, it's it's hard to let him 555 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 6: go when I've seen the last. 556 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: I don't think he wants to go through another interview 557 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 3: process myself. I just don't. 558 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 4: Again, I don't know that. 559 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 7: We don't know McCarthy wanting to come back. That's another 560 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 7: thing like we don't. We don't know because again, he. 561 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 9: Was really disappointed before in pregame you listened to Brad 562 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 9: shamp ask him. 563 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: Questions, Yeah, he was, he was totally he was totally. 564 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 9: Uh, just in the tank about not being in the playoffs, 565 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 9: you know, and so you know, to me, I mean 566 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 9: I think that a guy that if he didn't want 567 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 9: to be here, I don't think he would be that way. 568 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: I don't think he would feel that way. 569 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 7: The only reason I bring that up. And I'm not 570 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 7: gonna bring a bunch of stuff on the air about this, 571 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 7: but we have heard little things in inner. I'm trying 572 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,959 Speaker 7: to keep my job. No, I'm just kidding. No, I 573 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 7: am keeping my job. But my point is when you 574 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 7: listen through to interviews throughout the season from my McCarthy, 575 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 7: there have been times where he gives that an answer. 576 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 7: What it makes you wonder or think more when whenever 577 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 7: he maybe about the running backs and the running game 578 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 7: or what was happening in the game. So you hear 579 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 7: his frustration and it leads me to think, Okay, is 580 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 7: he actually happy here? Not to say that he's not, 581 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 7: because he's been here and he's committed to the team, 582 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 7: and you've seen that, and you saw that specifically in 583 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 7: that interview that you mentioned, Brian, but it makes me wonder, 584 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 7: is he wanting to go through all of this in 585 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 7: this scene where it's the Dallas Cowboys and we're in 586 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 7: the start And sometimes when you watch the frustration and 587 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 7: just the toll that it takes on you emotionally having 588 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 7: to deal with the amount of pressure here, it just 589 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 7: makes me wonder is he wanting to do that again 590 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 7: and stay here in Dallas. Well, I don't know, we'll see. 591 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 6: The reality is he has just as much say in 592 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: this as the organization does because he is a free 593 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 6: agent essentially after the. 594 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: Season is over. 595 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 6: So if he chooses to leave, he has every right 596 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 6: and ability to be able to leave. So it is 597 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 6: a two way thing here. This is not just the 598 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 6: Cowboys's eye whether. 599 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 9: Sees how that signed players, he's going to get He's 600 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 9: gonna be the highest paid coach in the league. 601 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: I'm saying that, kidding. 602 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, the perspective. 603 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 6: That on air, right, because people that are just listening, 604 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 6: if you if you, if you wait and if you 605 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 6: wait around here, you get your extension. 606 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, get nick saving money. 607 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 8: I'd be curious to know from Jerry's perspective, if his 608 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 8: mind was made up, why not. 609 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: Just come out and say it last night after the game? 610 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,239 Speaker 3: Oh I think you know what that That's what I've 611 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 3: been asking. Yeah, I mean I've been asking the same thing. 612 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 9: As happy as they are about this guy, as happy 613 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 9: as in giddy as he appears to be, and talking 614 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 9: about him in such a glowing and my gosh, you're 615 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 9: playing hard for him, and they're doing this and doing that. 616 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 9: That's what I'm saying, Go go extend him now. I 617 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 9: don't need I don't need you to tell me that 618 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 9: they're you know that, they're just go do it. 619 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 3: Go get the extension done this week and and and 620 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 3: or put it all the rest. 621 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 9: Maybe he will, Maybe he'll come on our shows this 622 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 9: week and say, you know what, I've made it this decision. 623 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 9: We're gonna bring Mike back, and I'm working on a 624 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 9: contract extension with Don Ye right now. 625 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 8: I doubt McCarthy would want to do that with two 626 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 8: weeks left, Just knowing how he's been communicating about this 627 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 8: process the whole time, I doubt he would even open 628 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 8: that conversation till the season's over. 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The 697 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,239 Speaker 6: running game had really been kind of the backbone of 698 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 6: this offense for the last couple weeks, really few weeks, 699 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 6: and then yesterday it just was not there. 700 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 4: Ric o'daldle was. 701 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 6: Thirty, had thirteen carries for twenty three yards of one 702 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 6: point eight average check out some of these advanced metrics. 703 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 6: He was fifty four percent against the stack They ran 704 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 6: fifty four percent of the time against a stack box, so 705 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 6: he was facing it up. 706 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 4: Bill Battle. 707 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 9: It's some one of the worst teams in the league 708 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 9: when it comes to run against stack boxes, and the 709 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 9: Buccaneers play at more than anybody. 710 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 8: Cooper rushed that yes, right too. So just backing up 711 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 8: your your great scouting on last last week, I was like, oh, 712 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 8: Brian brought it said that last week. 713 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: He must have been watching the break. 714 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 6: So here's my question, though, do you think that the 715 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 6: stack box and what they were doing there actually opened 716 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 6: up the passing game more? And that's why you saw 717 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 6: such great production by the passing game in Cooper rush. 718 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 8: You saw more one on ones yesterday was I think 719 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 8: you've seen all season? So yeah, I think that's that's 720 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 8: certainly the case. And dealing with a backup safety on 721 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 8: the back end with Antoine Winfield out, there were advantages 722 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 8: that could be taken here. I again respect to the 723 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 8: play caller, there was a couple instances where they were 724 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 8: able to just isolate guys and have speed against non speed. 725 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 8: And for example, the play that comes to mind is 726 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 8: you think back to last week when they had those 727 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 8: two Cavante Turpin carries for twenty seven yards in Carolina 728 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 8: and just lining him up in the backfield, handing it 729 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 8: to him like a straight up running back. They line 730 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 8: him up in the backfield for the first time last 731 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 8: night and they go play action to him. Cooper rolls 732 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 8: to his left and Brandon Cooks and one on one 733 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 8: with a guy is just blowing by his coverage. It's 734 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 8: the longest reception Brandon Cooks had all year for twenty 735 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 8: nine yards. I believe that was in the first quarter. 736 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 8: Set up that first touchdown pass, and I think with 737 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 8: those stacked boxes it certainly helped a lot with his 738 00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 8: passing game. 739 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think to me when you when you watch it, 740 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 9: and Mike did a nice job. 741 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: You're talking about set it up. 742 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 9: He gets a twelve yard run with They get the 743 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 9: thing blocked on the backside really well. Smith does a 744 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 9: great job of cutting off his guy and then they. 745 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: Kind of get Vida Veya. 746 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 9: Secured and you know, next thing you know, Turpen's to 747 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 9: the hole, through the hole, makes a guy miss, and 748 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 9: now you're got a twelve yard gain. They come back 749 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 9: in the very same formation like Nick's talking about they 750 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 9: go heavy play action right off it and it and 751 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,239 Speaker 9: the play. The fact that they'd ran a play for 752 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 9: twelve yards the previous brought all the linebackers up and 753 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 9: brought the safety up off and that that's exactly where 754 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 9: Cooks went. So safety comes up. Cooks runs by a 755 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 9: ball right there. You know, Cooper did a nice job 756 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 9: but kind of sliding to his left and making sure 757 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 9: that ball got out. 758 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 3: But just the threat of. 759 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 9: That brought the brought the the Buccaneer defense up and 760 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 9: then created some space for them to work with. But 761 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 9: it was going to be tough to run the ball 762 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 9: against these guys. I mean it was you know, they 763 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 9: like say Dallas just does not run well against the 764 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 9: stack box three point four yards of carry. I mean, 765 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 9: even with Rico Daddle, he's one of the been one 766 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 9: of the most successful running backs in the league when 767 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 9: it comes to you know, with the positive carries or 768 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 9: you know, gains of four plus yards of carry successful carries, 769 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 9: and yesterday he you know, you just look at the 770 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 9: you look at the metrics and with guys on and 771 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 9: off the field for the Buccaneers, their defense, I mean 772 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 9: one point six one point six one point six, one 773 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 9: point five, zero point nine, you know, two point one. 774 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 3: I mean that's nothing. 775 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 9: That's nothing when it comes to yards to carry with 776 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 9: those defenders on the field, and then you flip it 777 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 9: on the other way, you know, Dallas said some guys 778 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 9: on the field it was about almost six yards of 779 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 9: carry and some of those instances. But you know that 780 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 9: it was the passing game is what got it done 781 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 9: because you were able to handle the linebacker pressure and 782 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 9: you and you didn't get you didn't get hurt by 783 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 9: any stuff that they usually do from the secondary. 784 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 3: Cooper Rush did a great job of getting the ball 785 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: out for that. 786 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 8: I'll tell you what you talking about the rush defense 787 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 8: for the Cowboys. Complimentary football helped this defense out more 788 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 8: than any other game in the season because have you 789 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 8: not been playing from ahead the entire game, that running 790 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 8: game would have caught up and it would have beat 791 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 8: you down before the end of the game. So I 792 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 8: complimentary football really worked for the defensive side this time. 793 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 8: I think that's the first time we could say that 794 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 8: this year unless I'm forgetting a game where it was 795 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 8: more evident. 796 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 7: Well, I was just gonna say that's where it comes 797 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 7: down to, because you look at all the stats. I mean, 798 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 7: the Bucks they beat you in every stat just by 799 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 7: a little bit more time, possession, the yards, and when 800 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 7: it comes down to it, the only place that the 801 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 7: Cowboys beat them at was in turnovers with the defense 802 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 7: and what they were able to do. And it just 803 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 7: goes to show once again that when you are able 804 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 7: to turn if you win the turnover battle, more often 805 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 7: than not, you're winning that game. And the defense once 806 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 7: again showed up. They made so so many plays. And 807 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 7: I know we were talking about the offense here, but again, 808 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 7: if the defense wasn't playing the way that they are, 809 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 7: I don't think this offense can get it done by itself. 810 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 7: But you still saw improvement and in a game where 811 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 7: there was the lack of the running game, you finally 812 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 7: saw some efficiency in the passing game. Now, the secondary 813 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 7: is not great. It's not the best second and I'm 814 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 7: talking about the Buccaneers. Their secondary is not the best 815 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 7: in the league or anything, but they were able to 816 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 7: take advantage of that. And we go back to talking 817 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 7: about Cooper Rush and him feeling more comfortable and being 818 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 7: more in connection with the receivers and Brian you mentioned 819 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 7: earlier Tolbert, a guy that disappeared the whole season, and 820 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 7: then all of a sudden, now he's starting to show 821 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 7: up again, making two key plays back back to back weeks. 822 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 7: So I think it comes down to just practicing more 823 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 7: time together. 824 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, let's actually dive a little deeper into that run 825 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 6: defense yesterday. That that was I agree with you, Nick, 826 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 6: I think there's without the fact that they had they 827 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 6: were playing with the lead for so much of the game. 828 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 6: I think that could have been a real turning point 829 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 6: for this game. I think that kind of been the 830 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 6: difference in this game. The one thing I noticed in 831 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 6: some of the advanced metrics was that they got the 832 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 6: majority of their success running inside left. 833 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 834 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 4: What did you guys. 835 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 6: See from the run defense specifically that you think was 836 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 6: most problematic for Dallas. 837 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 8: It's too early for me to comment on that specifically. 838 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 8: I haven't been able to go back and see what 839 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 8: work in the trenches are. 840 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think to me, what, you know, the one 841 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 9: thing that that early in the game, you get Mossy 842 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 9: playing pretty well and Linville Lynville Joseph, I mean, they 843 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 9: the Buccaneers, They've got their backs all finished going forward too. 844 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 9: That's that you know, And you really don't have to 845 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 9: get a lot of their black I mean, the Buccaneers are. 846 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 3: Good about getting a little bit of a guy and 847 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 3: then the ball is to in past. 848 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 9: I mean that's where it's not like they're hard to 849 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 9: Bucky Irving. It's hard to bring down in the open 850 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 9: field or you know, in space. But that when you 851 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 9: look at the way that they're able to run the ball, 852 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 9: it was they got push on the tackle, you know, 853 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 9: Nick Vigel and those guys were having to fight some blocks. 854 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 3: Maritly if out fighting blocks. 855 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 9: You know, it got it got to the point where 856 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 9: they were able to get you know, they were winning. 857 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 9: They were playing on your side of the line of scrimmage, 858 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 9: and that's where I think that they took advantage on 859 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,919 Speaker 9: some of these runs. It was contact past your point 860 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 9: of the line of scrimmage and then they were and 861 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 9: then everybody tried to rally to to kind of slow 862 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 9: some things down. But I thought it was gonna be 863 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 9: a lot worse, to be honest with you, the way 864 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 9: I thought that they were just going to commit with it. 865 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 9: But you talk about the complimentary football and the way 866 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 9: that they were able to to play. They were able 867 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 9: to play, you know, together on that and force Baker Mayfield. 868 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 9: I mean, you know, playing they did a great job 869 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 9: of rushing the past especially did a great job. Mike 870 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 9: did a really great job of timing up his his 871 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 9: secondary blitzes because you look at Donovan Wilson getting home 872 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 9: a couple of times free, you look at George Lewis 873 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 9: getting home. 874 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 3: You know. 875 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 9: I think they had four rushes during the game. I 876 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 9: think three by Wilson, won by by Jordan Lewis. Three 877 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 9: of those all turned into pressures and hits and stuff 878 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 9: like that. So and and I think one of the 879 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 9: one of them up in a sack. Wilson had a sack, 880 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 9: so that there was some really timely Butson. But I 881 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 9: think to answer your question, Derek, Tampa Bay does a 882 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 9: great job of playing on your side of the line 883 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 9: of scrimmage, and I think they created some some opportunities 884 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 9: doing that off off your right side of the defense. 885 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, talk about complimentary football. The fact that they were 886 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 6: making Tampa play down two scores for a good part 887 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 6: of the game. That allowed Dallas defense to do what 888 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 6: they do best, which is pressure the passer. They got 889 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 6: pressure on thirty four percent of the dropbacks, seventeen pressures, 890 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 6: four sacks yesterday some of the guys that really stood 891 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 6: out there, and Micah of course had six pressures and 892 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 6: a sack. Marris Lefile had five pressures, Olso had four pressures, 893 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 6: Nieland had three pressures, Chauncey Golson had two pressures in 894 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 6: a sack. Talk about what you saw from the from 895 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 6: the pass rush particularly and how they were able to 896 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 6: get there. Obviously understanding the blitz, but just in the 897 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 6: base back at some of the guys that they were 898 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 6: able to get get home or at least get get 899 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 6: pressure on Baker Mayfield. 900 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 8: It's just a unit that is understanding what they have 901 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 8: to do now here on the back end of the season. 902 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 8: There was a lot of dialogue in the beginning of 903 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 8: the year about guys not necessarily understanding their assignments, what 904 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 8: pass rush lanes, things of that nature. Michael Parson's talking 905 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 8: about guys trying to be heroes, this, that, and the third. 906 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 8: I think everyone understands what they're doing now and it's 907 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 8: allowing Mike Zimmer to send guys like Donovan Wilson and 908 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 8: Jordan Lewis here on the back end of the season. 909 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 8: On situational blitzing, Mari Sleafel as well. I mean, Donovan 910 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 8: Wilson has gotten in the sack category in three of 911 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 8: the last four games. That does not happen if that 912 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 8: front is not playing a schematically sound and they're and 913 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 8: they're making the right assignments, are doing what they have 914 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 8: to do. 915 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 2: You know, Michael Parsons has talked about it. 916 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 8: He's like, hey, I've had to embrace on some snaps 917 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 8: just being the guy that takes takes on more and 918 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 8: allows others to get home on the quarterback. And I 919 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 8: think we're starting to see that trickle down throughout the 920 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 8: entire defensive line. And I think that's what really worked 921 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 8: in this game too. Everyone's just schematically sound right now, 922 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 8: because you go back to the Detroit game specifically, when 923 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 8: this defense was in a very similar situation, not having 924 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 8: Eric Hendricks having to figure out what to do on 925 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 8: that second level, you saw that defensive front being out 926 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 8: of sorts affect you more than any other game in 927 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 8: the year. It happens again, what are we ten weeks later, 928 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 8: I don't know, something like that, and you don't have 929 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 8: Eric Kendricks in that second level, but the defensive front 930 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 8: is helping them out so much more and it's trickle 931 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 8: down effect, and vigil is able to have a great 932 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 8: game on the back end as well. Yeah, talking about 933 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 8: the password's perspective, specifically, this defensive front is just playing well. 934 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, Marshawn kneeling, Carl Lawson, Yeah, those aren't on your 935 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 9: being go cards? 936 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 3: Are they? 937 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 9: Talking about guys that you know? I mean, Carl Lawson 938 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 9: has done a nice job for you. You talk about 939 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 9: the guys that are making no money, and then all 940 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 9: of a sudden his value is more like a fifteen 941 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 9: to sixteen million dollar. 942 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 3: Rusher the way that he plays. 943 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 9: But yeah, them, and and and and Neelan have done. 944 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 3: A really really nice job of com Golston. 945 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 9: I mean they they they've figured out this, the twist, stunts, 946 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 9: the blitz is the movements. Uh, they've they all work 947 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 9: together well with each other. You mentioned about uh Parsons 948 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 9: taking on blocks. Yeah, I mean he's he's I mean, guys, 949 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 9: he's getting double teams. 950 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 3: It's freeing up other guys. Mike's calling a pretty good game. 951 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 9: They're getting these teams to have to drop back and 952 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 9: pass and and all of a sudden, you've got guys 953 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 9: that Jimly can rush. It's not just Michaeh Parsons. Oh 954 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,240 Speaker 9: so Diggy's you got some guys like him, and mentioned 955 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 9: Neil and Goldston Lawson. They've done it, Lynnville, Joseph hell 956 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 9: who had him for a sack yesterday laying down. 957 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah it was yeah, but they. 958 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 9: They they really they bullied that Tampa front on a 959 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 9: lot of those pass rushes and able to get home 960 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 9: that way. 961 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 962 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 6: I think now comes the big test for this offense 963 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,479 Speaker 6: and this defense, because the next two games you're gonna 964 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 6: have teams that I think are better than the teams 965 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 6: you've played the last two or three weeks, and we're 966 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 6: really gonna see what they can do, especial in situations 967 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 6: with those teams are a bit more desperate Phillies trying 968 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 6: to win the division, Phillies trying to stay in hunt 969 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 6: for maybe a first round by and. 970 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 4: That number one seed. 971 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 6: That's gonna be tough at this point with that lost yesterday, 972 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,399 Speaker 6: but there's still got something they're playing for. Washington IVY 973 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 6: is still playing to get into the playoffs. So you're 974 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 6: gonna have some real challenges here these next two weeks, 975 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 6: and we'll figure out just how much this Dallas team 976 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 6: is resilient and wants to keep playing in these situations. 977 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 7: I was gonna say, well, we're playing for our jobs here, 978 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 7: and there we go. We got something that we're playing 979 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 7: for too, for our jobs. 980 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 8: We we're gonna have a conversation in the offseason on 981 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 8: one of these offseason shows about you know, what they 982 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,399 Speaker 8: will have to do in free agency, what they can 983 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 8: do in free agency. These next two games are going 984 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 8: to determine a lot about what that conversation looks like, 985 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 8: especially when you look at guys like Golseno Digize Will 986 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 8: All right. 987 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,720 Speaker 4: We're gon. We appreciate you guys going. So we're back tomorrow. 988 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 6: Remember we will not have a show on Christmas Day, 989 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 6: So tomorrow jump in, Brian, Can you want to get 990 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 6: us a little started on the Eagles offense tomorrow? So 991 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 6: we'll jump into the Eagles offense a little bit. I 992 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 6: know Brian usually have some questions for us on a 993 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,280 Speaker 6: Tuesday as well, so we'll do a little. 994 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 4: Bit of that too. 995 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 6: Get you guys all primed up before Christmas, and then 996 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 6: we'll be back on Thursday and uh and finish our 997 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 6: preparation for Cowboys versus Eagles till then for Nick Harris 998 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 6: Brian brought us Ambergarcia. I'm Derek Eagles and this has 999 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 6: been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 1000 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1001 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.