1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: So and ahead he got Jack. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 3: This is the big red rage presented by Emergency Air. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 4: Sacked again Kalais Campbell slammed the ground by Buddha Baker 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 4: like a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 3: The rage is brought to you by Emergency Air. The 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: difference is we care. 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 4: Want to grab by Tramick right, that was spectacular. 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: And by Arizona Cardinals podcast. Visit Azycardinals dot com Slash podcast. 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 5: All right, Sea, its rising up, Timber your rising vision, 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 5: blurry rage, take it over. 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 3: Here's Paul Calvic. 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 6: I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 6: I'm ready. And Ron Woofley. It doesn't get any better 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 6: than that. So we got an RV show going on 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 6: here outside Flanker Kitchen at Sports Bar on the Gray 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 6: Lawn at State Farm Stadium. Wolf back in the day, 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 6: didn't you mess up all the hookups and you had 19 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 6: that one blackwater disaster you never want to talk about. 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: No, I didn't, Pully, but Paul that there's an. 21 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 6: RV you on a road trip. Let's pack up that 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 6: there RV and head for h Town and leave that 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 6: top ran d. 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: With an L. 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 6: They haven't gone against the NFL's two leading pass catchers 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 6: since week eleven. Mister McBride and mister Wilson. Come on now, 27 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 6: and yes, I am sort of maximizing this intro because 28 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 6: it'll probably be the only words I get in the 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 6: entire show. We have more than two decades of playing experience, 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 6: more than two decades of broadcasting experience, and it is 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 6: putting the big into the Big Red Rage presented by 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 6: Emergency Air. We are the original Thursday Night Football Paul 33 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 6: calvc Ron Wolfley And well, if I feel like you 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 6: should pass the torch and or the baton right now, 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 6: would you like, you know, would you like to introduce. 36 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: I would like to say we're introducing a Q Shipley 37 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: to tonight's Big Hugh. 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: Yes here, that's right, Big Red Rage. 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 6: So good to be with you boys. 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: You know, what what did your teammates call you? Did 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: they call you ship? Did they call you Q? What 42 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: did they call you? They was ship? 43 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 5: It was Q, it was Q ball, it was There's 44 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 5: there's a million different things, but it always always came 45 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 5: back to somewhere in Q. 46 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: Did you have a preference though? Uh? 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 6: I think ship. 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: I think yeah, because I ended up. 49 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 5: Creating my gym that I currently trained guys out of 50 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 5: called the Shipyard. 51 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 6: Now, so ship is the monkery. 52 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's got you know, typically you would tell guys, hey, 53 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: call me this, and they'd call you anything. 54 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: But that's. 55 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 6: How many of your former teammates did you fight? By 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 6: the way, just because that's the other we always you know, 57 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 6: twenty years with Wolf on the road when when Passionate 58 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 6: it was a different era. Paul Wolf Wolf would run 59 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 6: into somebody either played with or against, it didn't matter, 60 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 6: and after he's done tapping them up, David always ask 61 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 6: him later, now, did you fight that guy? 62 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 7: Yeah? 63 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 6: That was that was an interesting thing. 64 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 5: I think mine was the last era where we're fighting 65 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 5: was still kind of right, kind of a thing. 66 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 6: Now the game's getting a little soft nowadays. 67 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: Right, well, I honestly, I just want to talk about 68 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: that momentarily. Right now. I still can't even believe that. 69 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: How does a locker room not just attack each other 70 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: after practice in the locker room if you're not having 71 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: it out on the field. That's exactly saying I don't 72 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: I don't get it. 73 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: Man. 74 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 6: Well, it's a different brand of practice these days because 75 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 6: of the NFLPA and all the rules. We get all that, 76 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 6: but uh, okay, all right, you don't want to get 77 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 6: me a wolf talking about That's right, yeah, because we 78 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 6: believe in the old ways. 79 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: All right. 80 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 6: So here we go. You're you're back from India and 81 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 6: the McAfee show. So how is this season going for you? 82 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 6: By the way, for those who don't know, Ron wolf 83 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 6: Ley twenty years as the Cardinals radio analyst, and it 84 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 6: was some big shoes to fill effective this year a 85 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 6: Q Shipley hired and and Wolf he retired on us. 86 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 6: You didn't get my authorization. I mean, how selfish it 87 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 6: was of Wolf to go ahead and retire, But he did, 88 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 6: and he's happy and we're happy for him. How's it 89 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 6: been going so far for you? Shit, it's going good. 90 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 6: Wolf's the best. I mean. 91 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 5: I loved listening to him when I played. I loved 92 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 5: listening to him all the way up. And then it 93 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 5: was good to pick his brain as this whole thing 94 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 5: kind of came about as we came through training camp. 95 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 5: I remember meeting up with him and just kind of 96 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 5: asking a few questions. There's no recreating of the voice. 97 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 5: There was no chance of that so I wasn't even 98 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 5: gonna try that, but I just try and give my 99 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 5: perspective and Wolf kind of talked about it before. 100 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: Just give my. 101 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 5: Perspective as if I was playing center and what I saw, 102 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 5: I'm trying to do that from the booth. 103 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: It's incredible. 104 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: I really, Paulie, we were talking about this before we 105 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: started broadcasting. But the thought up ship over a pick 106 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: over the pigskin, as you know, playing center looking at 107 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: the front, That's exactly what he's doing right now from 108 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: the booth. 109 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: He's doing the exact same. 110 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: Thing and then calling out what actually happened when he'd 111 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: be calling out protections, calling out plays and how they 112 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: were going to block a scheme. I mean, I just 113 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: think it's a natural fit for what you've done your 114 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: whole life. 115 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 5: No, I appreciate that, and it is. I mean, I think, Uh, 116 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 5: the interesting thing is, you know, Dave's obviously doing all 117 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 5: the stuff pre right. So Dave does a phenomenal job, 118 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 5: and there's so many times where I see it I'm. 119 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 6: Like, oh, I know what blitz is coming. 120 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: I know what's coming. 121 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 5: I want to say it's so bad, but you know, yeah, 122 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 5: Dave do his thing and then just kind of come 123 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 5: in on the after effect because Dave is. 124 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: The best in the business. 125 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: That's so good, Ship that you're like that, you know, 126 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: because he is Dave David is unbelievable. 127 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, the best broadcaster that I've ever been around, No, no. 128 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 6: Question YEP, top five play by playing out, Oh my goodness, period. Well, 129 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 6: did you give him any free advice? Like, like, you 130 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 6: know what sort of advice did you give him? 131 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: Do you remember the only thing I told Chip, The 132 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: only thing I said to Ship is don't step on Dave. 133 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: Give him room. 134 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: Give him room because he's really really good at what 135 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: he does. Let him breathe. There's some other guys if 136 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: you listen to him it sounds bad. Doesn't show it out. 137 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 1: They're screaming in the background, and you know the guy's 138 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: trying to call the game. Ship doesn't do that. 139 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 6: So you didn't say anything like make sure you go 140 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 6: to the sideline reporter a lot like you give no advice. 141 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: I pushed for Paul. 142 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 6: Hey, let's go to Paul Off and let's send it 143 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 6: down to Paul. Well, we won't send it down to 144 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 6: the postgame interview, yell to Froholt. And here was his 145 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 6: message live after the game. It was a tough locker room. 146 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 6: There's no doubt forty five seventeen the Cardinals on the 147 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 6: wrong end of a lopsided loss. And we asked him 148 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 6: for his message because he's a team captain, one of 149 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 6: three team captains who's not on the injured list out 150 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,559 Speaker 6: of seven. Here's his message to the rest of the roster. 151 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 8: Stay present, man. You know it's not just for fun 152 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 8: and games. This is a job. So what we need 153 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 8: to do. We need to go out, we need to execute. 154 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 8: We ain't got time to not be prepared, to not 155 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 8: play hard, to not do these things. The iron, the 156 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 8: sky don't lie. So get back into meetings, keep moving forward, 157 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 8: and you know we're going to stay aggresive, We're going 158 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 8: to keep playing hard. We're going to get back into 159 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 8: We got full opportunities. 160 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 6: The most important was this, I'll come a week go 161 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 6: back to your playing days. Guys, what anything you would 162 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 6: add to that, especially for the young guys on this roster, 163 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 6: And then you would add. 164 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 5: No, I mean, listen, he's right, it's a job. I mean, 165 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 5: I think people lose sight of that. I think it's 166 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 5: so easy for you to listen to the fan base. 167 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 5: The fan base wants to burn the city down right 168 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 5: because you're on this losing streak, or you've lost so 169 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 5: many games, or it was not what expectations were meant 170 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 5: to be. And I think the biggest thing is as 171 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 5: a professional is your job is to go out and 172 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 5: do your job to the best of the ability every 173 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 5: single week. And so his message is exactly what it 174 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 5: should be. It's what the coach's message should be, and 175 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 5: it should be Listen, effort is non negotiable. That will 176 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 5: never be something that is negotiable. So that is the 177 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 5: first things and foremost non negotiable. We have to give 178 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 5: one hundred percent effort. After that, we show up Wednesday, 179 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 5: we go through the process Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and 180 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 5: we go put our best foot forward on Sunday and 181 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 5: hopefully you write this ship at some point. 182 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: You know, for me, Paully, it's just so easy because 183 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: it's do your job. That was Bill Belichick. You used 184 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: to say it over and over and over again. Do 185 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: your job. Bill never tried to motivate anybody. He couldn't 186 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: motivate people. It's not who he was. The Only thing 187 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: he could do is be himself and you knew if 188 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: you didn't go out and do your job, he was 189 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: gonna go find somebody who was going to. 190 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: Do the job. It's a job. Do your job. 191 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: Some people they come up to me and said, man, 192 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: is it tough to get up for the game. Is 193 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: it tough for these guys to get up for a game? 194 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: And what do you know? As a matter of fact, 195 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm feeding my family this way, I'm taking care of 196 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: my family. 197 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: This is my job. 198 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, not to mention, I mean, you get seventeen opportunities 199 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 5: to go out in front of sixty to ninety thousand people. 200 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 5: There's no other feeling like that. You should never waste 201 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 5: any of those opportunities period. 202 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 6: Kalay has said it. Last week he said, anybody wonders, 203 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 6: you know what am I playing for? What am I doing? 204 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 9: Is? 205 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 6: Is there anything to play for? Yes, your job, your livelihood, 206 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 6: your reputation, what you're putting on film. And look, every 207 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 6: single game is its own entity in the NFL. 208 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: We know that. 209 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 6: But to be a ten to ten game early to 210 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 6: mid second quarter and then the Rams to rip off 211 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 6: thirty five straight points, it was it was remarkable in 212 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 6: a lot of ways, how the momentum just kept building. 213 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 6: And here's Jacoby Brissett when being asked about that, what 214 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 6: was responsible and culpable for that? And he was just 215 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 6: talking about the Cardinals and self inflicted. 216 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 10: We come back on the sideline and we talked about 217 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 10: after the game, and you know, me and Drew are 218 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 10: like it is on three way talking to each other 219 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 10: about the game. It's just like we had this, we 220 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 10: had this, and it's thinking about like talking about the 221 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 10: game or if we're on the plane, I'm back there 222 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 10: watching a game with him, and it's like you kind 223 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 10: of play here from us to play here from us? 224 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 10: A play here from us got granted, they make plays 225 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 10: to it, but for the most part, like if you 226 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 10: take the fifteen plays that are deciding factors in a 227 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 10: game and it's none of them are on us, You're like, 228 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 10: oh my gosh, like we got a chance. And that's 229 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 10: the encouraging part. It's just now we just got to 230 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 10: make it. 231 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 6: What's your main takeaway from that game? Now in hindsight, 232 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 6: and I know you've watched the Fume the filmmake you 233 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 6: but you know, talk about rushing for everything, that this 234 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 6: is a passing league. I mean, when you can't run 235 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 6: the ball, and you can't stop the run. The Rams 236 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 6: go for two forty nine. How big a factor was that? 237 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 5: Anytime you let an opposing team come into your home 238 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 5: and run for two hundred and fifty yards, it's not 239 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 5: a good day at the office, right. 240 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing. 241 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing that after watching the film 242 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 5: was a lot of it was self inflicted, right, Like, 243 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 5: I think that's the thing. And again, we can sit 244 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 5: here and say what we want about young players and 245 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 5: injuries and all of these different things, but everybody's going 246 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 5: through New England's playing with backup left tackle, left guard, 247 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 5: and New Buffalo goes out two weeks ago with two tackles. 248 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 5: You know that are second string guys, right. Everybody's dealing 249 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 5: with injuries. That's the nature of the NFL at this 250 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 5: point in the season, And so young guys got to 251 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 5: step up. They got to get the messaging and they 252 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 5: have to execute. And you know, for me, as I 253 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 5: watched it, there was guys, you know, jumping out of gaps, 254 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 5: there was mistackles, there were some certain things going on. 255 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 5: And now you got to watch that film, you look 256 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 5: yourself in the mirror, you come back to work and 257 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 5: you fix it for. 258 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: Me, there was the mistackles really bothered me. I really 259 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: did a lot of. 260 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: Mistackles were out on the field and just watching the 261 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: MS line up and run the ball. And you know, 262 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: to me, we were using a lot of our three 263 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:09,239 Speaker 1: safety defense as well against twelve personnel in rundown situation. 264 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: I really didn't understand the scheme fit that was going 265 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: on there, but I do know the execution of it 266 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: was not good in terms of tackling. And I think 267 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: more than anything else, watching the Rams run the ball 268 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty nine yards, as you said, six 269 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: point nine yards per carry, and it felt that way 270 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: when you watched it. 271 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 6: It's never one thing typically And to your point, Wolf 272 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 6: Nick Rowles started his press conference, I asked him what 273 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 6: stood out from the film and he said, you know what, 274 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 6: I didn't like the plan. Didn't like my plan that 275 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 6: I put in place. He took accountability in front of 276 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 6: the media forever. Now was that everything No? On the 277 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 6: forty eight yard touchdown run, for example. I don't watch 278 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 6: the film, but talking to different guys in that locker room, 279 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 6: they'll tell you there was a d lineman who made 280 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 6: a mistake, was out of his gap there was a 281 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 6: linebacker who made a mistake, was out of his gap. 282 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 6: There was a safety, you took a bad angle. So 283 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 6: there were three different levels of the defense. Right, someone was. 284 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: Responsible and Koram was untouched. 285 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 5: Yes, it sounds like you watch the film, because that's 286 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 5: exactly what I saw on the film. 287 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: I don't watch it. 288 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 6: You just talk to a few people who are in there, 289 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 6: and so no doubt. Is there such a thing as 290 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 6: a hangover? 291 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: AQ? 292 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 6: Are you worried about coming off a game like that 293 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 6: and going into Houston and we'll get into the Texans 294 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 6: in their top ranked defense. 295 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 5: I would say no because I think, you know, coming 296 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 5: off the last big loss like this against Seattle, I 297 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 5: thought they came out and they responded well. I think 298 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 5: this team and the messaging from coach Gannon, I think 299 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 5: they will come out. Will they win, I don't know, 300 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 5: But will they play hard? I think absolutely? 301 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 6: All Right, stuff someone's stocking with the latest gear from 302 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 6: the Cardinals team shop. Pick up the hottest items including rivalries, 303 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 6: merch and more. Go daisycardinals dot com slash shop. Today 304 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 6: we're gonna go into the cold tump time machine. We're 305 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 6: gonna talk about a Q Shipley We're gonna talk about 306 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 6: what it's like to be at the bottom of the pile, 307 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 6: like every single snap, and what it's like to try 308 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 6: and move guys like Vita Vea. He's listed to three, 309 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 6: he's closer to four hundred and I gotta go against 310 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 6: this guy all day for three hours. We'll get into 311 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 6: that next. And the big Red race was ented by 312 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 6: emergency Era. 313 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: It's losing to five and recovered the two by Collins 314 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,359 Speaker 4: and he rolls into the end zone for a touchdown. 315 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 4: It was Josh Sweat, the newcomer who knocked. 316 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 5: It out right up the middle. Josh Switt cause a fumble, 317 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 5: pick it up, touchdown, saving Collins. 318 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 4: Paul flutters over the middle and it's picked off by 319 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 4: Barret Prowning at midfield. 320 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 5: What an absolute killer start by this Arizona Cardinals defense. 321 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 4: Hands it off, Connor running left, hit at the goal 322 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: line and hitto the en zone for the touchdown. 323 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 5: Love seeing a big boy in there and pull back 324 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 5: three hundred pounds of twisted steel downhill, fought on the goal. 325 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,119 Speaker 6: Line, touchdown. Trey McBride. 326 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 5: When you need a touchdown, go to your best player, 327 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 5: Tray McBride. 328 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 6: It's intercepting if I know it. 329 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: At the five he gets hit on the goal line, 330 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 4: but he got the balling hell else for a touchdown. 331 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 5: Love seeing a big man touchdown. 332 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 4: They brought everybody piece head pay sacked. BET's Kalais Campbell 333 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: who ends the game. 334 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 5: Big Kalais Campbell ricochets up through the begon and makes 335 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 5: the big sack to clinch the game. 336 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: For the Cardinals. 337 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 6: Wow, heart rage too high right now, Dave didn't need 338 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 6: to be Welcome to the booth. AQ feel like I'm 339 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 6: playing that soundstanding really well done by Jim A. Mahundra 340 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 6: going in and a little montage there highlights this season, 341 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 6: the Rookie season break. Q Shipley, there are just announcers 342 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 6: who sound like football, and we've got two of them 343 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 6: on the Big Red Rage presented by Emergency Here and 344 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 6: we are live from Flanker Kitchen at Sports Bar on 345 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 6: the Great Lawn at State Farm Stadium. A Q Shipley, 346 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 6: Ron Wolfley more than two decades worth of Cardinals radio 347 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 6: analyst up here on the stage. What's your biggest takeaway 348 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 6: so far being in the booth. You've done plenty of 349 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 6: broadcasting the McAfee shown. Maybe we'll get into some of 350 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 6: that a little bit, and you've done other things. What 351 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 6: about calling a game live on radio as an analyst, Well, 352 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 6: you just nailed it. Live is the is the biggest difference. Right. 353 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 5: Everything I'm doing with McAfee is live, But there is 354 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 5: some prep work, right, there's some I'm watching film. I 355 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 5: kind of have an idea of where I want to 356 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 5: go with what I'm saying. If I'm doing a segment, 357 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 5: obviously that's already lined up, and I know exactly what 358 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 5: I'm doing. This is all call it how you see it, right, 359 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 5: And that's the beauty about playing center in the National 360 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 5: Football League too. That's what I loved about it. It 361 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 5: was call it how you see it? Hey, they're going 362 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 5: to show this, and then all of a sudden, they're 363 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 5: going to move the safety. Now this linebacker's up on 364 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage, and now we got to go 365 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 5: from a rocket call over here to a Louis call 366 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 5: over there, sift it over here, and send the back 367 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 5: over there. 368 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 6: Right. So that's that's the beauty. You guys all understand that, right, well, 369 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 6: And that's part of the challenge, right Wolf. I mean, 370 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 6: you know, you guys play it. You guys were the 371 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 6: one percent you were the ninety nine percentile, and so 372 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 6: if you get too deep, you're going to leave behind 373 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 6: a significant portion of the audience. So there's to be 374 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 6: a some infotainment in there, but you also have to 375 00:15:59,080 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 6: give some football one. 376 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: But see, this is what I think Ship does really, 377 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: really well, is he takes something that is really, really 378 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: complex and simplifies it and brings it down to the 379 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: simplest level of being able to understand basically what happened. 380 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: You don't get too technical. You're right where you should be. 381 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: And it's a situation where when I listen to Ship, 382 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: I learned something. I learned something about the schemes. You know, 383 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: it's been a long time since I've really been involved 384 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: in some of the schemes. When you think about it, 385 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: Cover two. Back when I was playing Cover two nineteen 386 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: eighty five to ninety five, it was coached completely different 387 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: than what Cover two is coached today because of the RPOs. 388 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: Of course, the zone reads, because of a lot of 389 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: different things. The spread changed the way you coach Cover two, and. 390 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 5: There's seventeen different variations up four over two right now. 391 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 5: That's the biggest difference in today's game is they've taken 392 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 5: everything that was of yesteryear and they've put it on 393 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 5: steroids and that's the beauty of it. 394 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 6: But getting back to your point of down. 395 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 5: Matt Hasselbeck, who was a former teammate of mine, played 396 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 5: quarterback in the league a long time in Seattle, but 397 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 5: he was the backup quarterback when I was in Indianapolis 398 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 5: and he went into the ESPN world afterwards, And when 399 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 5: I started doing the stuff on McAfee, he was like, 400 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 5: make sure you don't get too in depth. Describe it 401 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 5: like you're describing it to your grandmother, and make sure 402 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 5: she can understand it. And if she can understand it, 403 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 5: everyone will understand it. Who And that's that's what you 404 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 5: do really well. And you know what, ship that's innate, man, 405 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 5: it is that's an eight. 406 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 6: Who helped, who helped form that within you in your 407 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 6: football career. Are there a couple of football minds, coaches, 408 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 6: teammates who have been most influential that you think of. 409 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 6: I'm guessing Bruce Arians obviously, right. 410 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, Bruce Arians is at the top of that list. 411 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 5: Juan Castillo, who just got named wow O line coach 412 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 5: of Syracuse. 413 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 6: You know he's a Syracuse needs some help. Patches all 414 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 6: the matter, they need help. Yeah, so he he. 415 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 5: He was instrumental in my career because I know when 416 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 5: I was with Bruce Arians my rookie year in Pittsburgh, 417 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 5: I go to Philadelphia my second year one because he 418 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 5: was my old line coach and my rookie year, my 419 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 5: head's spinning. Really didn't understand everything, didn't understand really how 420 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 5: to put all of the concepts and make it understand me. 421 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 6: Uh. 422 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 5: The best way to say it is like I was 423 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 5: memorizing things and I wasn't understanding what the concept was. 424 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 5: And I went to Wan and he broke it down 425 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 5: in a different way where it all of a sudden 426 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 5: made sense. And then when I get back to Bruce 427 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 5: Arians in my fourth year in Indianapolis, now I'm able 428 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 5: to sit there and say, Okay, what we did with 429 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 5: Wan and the way he broke it down, Now this 430 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 5: fox two run is now twenty two double right, Like 431 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 5: it's just different terminology, but at all you understand the 432 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 5: concept and who has who and break it down that way. 433 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 5: And so those are probably the two biggest Harold Goodwin 434 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 5: was my old line coach for a very long time 435 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 5: under Bruce Arians, So I would say those three are 436 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 5: probably my three biggest football influences. 437 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: So two double, twenty three double? Is that your favorite player? 438 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: Said it this week? 439 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 6: I said it this week on the McAfee show. 440 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 5: I showed a clip of twenty three double Denver Bronc 441 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 5: goes running it against the Raiders. I said, best play 442 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 5: in hands down. 443 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so the best play. 444 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: How would you describe the best play to those that 445 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: are listening right now, because I've always known twenty two 446 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: and twenty three double as the power without the poll. 447 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great way to That's a that's an 448 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 5: easy way to describe it. I think the other way 449 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 5: to say is three double teams, three doubles. So you're 450 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 5: gonna have, you know, a tight end to the front side, 451 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 5: and you're probably gonna have an f which would be 452 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 5: also the fullback right, So tight end in fullback, work 453 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 5: a double team to this guy, tackle guard, double team 454 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 5: to this guy center backside guard, double team to this guy. 455 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 6: There you go, and then that's your James Connor man. 456 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 6: That's it. You're almost an Italian the way you speak 457 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 6: with your hands and all day. A big anti. Come 458 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 6: to one of my family reunions. It's really invited. No 459 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 6: it's good and it makes sense because we're going to 460 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 6: segue into a moment during the Tampa game where you 461 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 6: got really fired up about a certain block by Paris 462 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 6: Johnson Junior. 463 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 5: Roll it you mentioned the good block by Harrison. Did 464 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 5: you do you see the block from Paris Johnson Junior? 465 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 5: Gets out, steps down, gets outside, watch. 466 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 6: Them boom decleats the corner. I know you guys can't 467 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 6: see it. 468 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 5: Sorry, I got a little excited when I thought when 469 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 5: I saw the replay, but Paris Johnson just decleted a 470 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 5: corner out of space. 471 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 6: It's okay. You described it well and we felt your energy. 472 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 6: It's what matters. 473 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 2: You made us see it. 474 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 6: AQ all right, good twelve. Not only was that entertaining, 475 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 6: but there's got to be moments where you're like, wait 476 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 6: a minute, okay, I am doing radio because you're so 477 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 6: used to the TV stuff as well. 478 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 5: Right, that's the that's probably the biggest challenge when I 479 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 5: started this was because it's so easy for me when 480 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 5: I'm on TV to be like see this, they work there, 481 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 5: you guys see what my hand's doing. And I start 482 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 5: doing that in the booth and almost like yeah, come on, I. 483 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 6: Can't see you. Yeah, there's no telestrator. Yeah, there's no tellustrator. 484 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 6: So that was the hardest thing. 485 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: So the offensive line ship. But when you look at 486 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: the offensive line, you know, to me, it just hasn't 487 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: looked the same to me. This is just my opinion. 488 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: Over the last couple of years. 489 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 6: We're talking about five guys, and those five guys. 490 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: Are largely still with the Arizona Cardinals in for whatever reason, 491 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't see those guys playing at the same level 492 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: as they have in the past. Now listen, you know me, 493 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: I am a I am a player, I'm a former player, 494 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: once a player, always a player. Agree, And I'm never 495 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: going to point a finger at a coach or point 496 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: of finger at somebody else and say it's your you 497 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: know what, you know how to play the game, go 498 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: out and do your job. Yet at the same time, 499 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: I think from week one, I don't think we've seen 500 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: the offensive line that we saw the last couple of years. 501 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: What is your take on this? 502 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 503 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 5: I agree with you, I mean I really do. And 504 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 5: it was one of my favorite groups to watch. This 505 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 5: run game was one of my favorite groups to watch 506 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 5: over the last couple of years, and for whatever reason, 507 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 5: it's not click and I would love to sit there 508 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 5: and be like, Yep, I got the magic answer that 509 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 5: and that's the reason. But I think it's probably a 510 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 5: combination of a multitude of things. And I think it 511 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 5: starts with let me let me start with not blaming 512 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 5: any one in particular on that side of the ball. 513 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 5: Let's start with if you look across the league from 514 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 5: week to week, I think you used to see seven 515 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 5: to ten rushers every week running for one hundred yards. 516 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 5: This year it's like three to four. Really, so running 517 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 5: yards across the league are down. I think defenses for 518 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 5: so many years, over the last couple of years have said, hey, 519 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 5: it's a passing league. We're gonna play cover two. We're 520 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 5: gonna bend, but don't break. Keep everything in front of us. 521 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 5: And so what does cover two bring? Hey, light box, 522 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 5: we're gonna run the football. Right, so now everybody's running 523 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 5: for five or six yards of carry. What the NFL 524 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 5: also works in cycles, right, So I think I think 525 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 5: now we're on a new cycle of Hey, we're gonna 526 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 5: stop the run. We're gonna make teams beat us by 527 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 5: throwing the football. And so I think there's a point 528 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 5: emphasis on the defensive side to stop the run. And 529 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 5: I think I saw that from week one all the 530 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 5: way through and that hasn't changed. And I think also, 531 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 5: I think you lose your backs. I think you've had 532 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 5: some injuries. I think I think the play is decreased 533 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 5: just a little bit across the group. And I'm not 534 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 5: putting it on one particular person, but as a group, 535 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 5: it is down a little bit. And so I think 536 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 5: you take all of those reasons, and I think that's 537 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 5: part of. 538 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: It, yep. 539 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 6: And if you get behind, you get out of the run. 540 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 6: For example, the stat I saw today was a Cardinals 541 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 6: since Jacoby Brissett took over his starter week six, have 542 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 6: the highest passing percentage run pass percentage. They have the 543 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 6: highest since week six, nearly sixty nine percent of the 544 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 6: plays you know to the air to. 545 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 1: Me, you can you can actually see it. I mean, 546 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: you got Jacoby Brissett throwing the ball and he does 547 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: a great job. 548 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 2: He checks it. 549 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: If you watch him on the checkdown, he rarely checks down, 550 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: but when he does, it's there for a reason. The 551 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: checkdown is there for a reason. You could see Jacoby 552 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: Brissett his eyes immediately go down the field. He's looking 553 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: to throw the ball, down the field. It's something I 554 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: really do appreciate from Jacoby Brissette, and he checks it 555 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: down when you need to check it down. 556 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 6: Speaking of being there, how about the Christmas decorations at 557 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 6: the Shipley House. Are they still there because we had 558 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 6: the episode around Halloween? They are definitely there, Okay, and 559 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 6: they are live. I mean they are. 560 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 5: It's it's borderline grizz Olds Christmas at my house right now. 561 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 5: I mean, I go all out for all the holidays. 562 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 5: I have a storage unit just for Halloween and Christmas 563 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 5: to go or come on, I'm not kidding. 564 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 6: I hope my wife isn't listening right now. Yeah, sorry, 565 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 6: because O and get on with you. 566 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: On Yeah, the Warrior Queen is on that soe oh boy, 567 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: you can tell what time of. 568 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 2: Year it is. Is it summer? 569 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 6: Is it fall? 570 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: Is it Christmas time? 571 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 6: PAULI those who missed it, by the way, your Halloween 572 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 6: decorations twelve foot skeletons when missing an APB was put 573 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 6: out in the Macabee show and within twenty four hours yeah, 574 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 6: I think it was more like two hours. Two hours 575 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 6: two hours later. 576 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 5: Put back up. Apologize to my wife. My wife made 577 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 5: them do push ups in the Street, and they said 578 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 5: to my kids that you should never steal. 579 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 6: So it was a win all around. 580 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 2: Frat Boyce for me. As you. 581 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 6: The Big Red Rage continues live from Flanker Kitchen at 582 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 6: Sports Bar in the Great Lawn at State Barm Stadium. 583 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 4: Wilson wine Wright were setting back to throw fires near 584 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 4: side cough by Wilson a touchdown. Want to start for 585 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 4: the Cardinals six nothing less than three minutes in. 586 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 6: Incredible start from the Cardinals. 587 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 5: Right there, Jacoby Brissett to Michael Wilson on a little 588 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 5: corner route for the touchdown. Wide open, unbelievable start for 589 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 5: the Cardinals. 590 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: Michael Wilson back as the number one receiver and he 591 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 4: looks like it again. We're set and the gun has 592 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 4: the ball back to throw, throws a fade left side 593 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 4: into the end zone. It is caught and it is 594 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 4: a touchdown for Michael Wilson. That is wilson second of 595 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 4: the day. He continues to amaze when given the opportunity 596 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 4: to be that go to guy for Jacoby Brissett as 597 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 4: wide receiver one. 598 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 6: He's been number one in the NFL. What that hang 599 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 6: for a minute since Week eleven. Michael Wilson leads the 600 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 6: NFL in catches and receiving yards thirty nine for four 601 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 6: eighty one. Think about this. Michael Wilson is the first 602 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 6: Cardinals player with ten plus catches in a game, one 603 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 6: hundred and forty plus yards and two receiving touchdowns since 604 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 6: Larry Fitzgerald in two thousand and seven. 605 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 9: Wow. 606 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 6: So it is real and it is spectacular. The Big 607 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 6: Red Rage presented by Emergency Here live at Flanker Kitchen 608 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 6: at Sports Bar in the Great Line at State Farm Stadium. 609 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 6: Ron Wolfley there, Paul calvic Here a Q Shipley is 610 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 6: a very special guest. So I'm gonna I'm gonna hit 611 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 6: you with this AQ true or false. Michael Wilson is 612 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 6: a legit wide receiver one. The Arizona Cardinals might have 613 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 6: two wide receiver ones on their hand. 614 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 5: I think he's been fantastic, and my voice is about 615 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 5: to go because there we go. All right, I think 616 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 5: I'm back. So Michael Wilson's been fantastic. He is proving 617 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 5: that not only is he deserving of more targets, but 618 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 5: he is very capable of being a number one. I 619 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 5: love everything that I watch from him. The confidence that 620 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 5: I see from him is growing week to week in 621 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 5: the way that he catches the football, And I think 622 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 5: that's one of the biggest things that you take away 623 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 5: when you watch him, because I go back to when 624 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 5: I used to watch Terry Fitzgerald. Everything was catching the 625 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 5: football out in front of in front of his body. 626 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 5: Sometimes you watch receivers in today's game and they're constantly 627 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 5: catching the ball with their body. When he is feeling it, 628 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 5: everything is like this out in front of them, and 629 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 5: you can see the confidence. 630 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: You know, for me, once again, he's getting the opportunity. 631 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: He's getting the opportunity to go out and be targeted 632 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: to the degree in which he has been. Also too, 633 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: I would say this Jacoby Brissett is. 634 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: More old school. 635 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 6: Is more old. 636 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: School in term of the schemes that they're running in 637 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: some of the route combinations that they're running as well. 638 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: He's pretty much old school. You know what it takes 639 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: for an old school wide receiver and a quarterback to 640 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: be on the same page as smart wide receiver. And 641 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson is really really smart, excellent at reading coverage. 642 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: You got to be on the same page as what 643 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: the quarterback is seeing. They're called red routes and in 644 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: this new age. In the new age, they didn't have 645 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: as many reid routes. They really didn't. But the old school, PAULI, 646 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: the old school passing game has a lot of reed routes, 647 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: and I think because of that, Michael Wilson is really 648 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: really developed. 649 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 6: I went around the locker room a couple of weeks ago. 650 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 6: I said, he want to know about a wide receiver 651 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 6: ass dp's and I did a little little power pole 652 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 6: on the side. What do you think you know? Is 653 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 6: it legit? Is this a fluke? And guys, just no, 654 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 6: he's that good, he said, And don't dismiss all the 655 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 6: work he's put in. He's one of the first guys 656 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 6: in here every single day. He's always doing a lot 657 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 6: of extra stuff. You see it after practice. He's with 658 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 6: Jacoby Brissett and to your point, Wolf, he's he knows. 659 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: How to be watching tape. Yes, well, he. 660 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 6: Knows how to break off routes, win how to stay 661 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 6: in sync with In fact, we had asked Jonathan Gannon 662 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 6: look about Michael Wilson thriving in that wide receiver one 663 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 6: role on his TV show Cardinals Game Plan. 664 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 9: With Marv being out last couple of weeks he's really 665 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 9: stepped into that role and he's getting a lot of targets. 666 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 9: But he's getting a lot of targets because he's winning 667 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 9: at a high level. You know, he really is. He's 668 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 9: he's putting the ball in the end zone, he's scoring points, 669 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 9: he's winning on third down, he's generating explosive So he's 670 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 9: going to keep doing what he's doing and he'll keep 671 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 9: us sending I. 672 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 6: Mean, think about it, he got eighteen targets, then he 673 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 6: got fifteen targets. He just got sixteen targets. What is 674 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 6: the upside? What sort of potential does he still have 675 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 6: in what sort of sustainability do you think he has? 676 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 6: What are we seeing here and where is it going? 677 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: AQ? 678 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 5: I think he's going to be a superstar, I really do, 679 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 5: whether it's here, whether it's somewhere else. Like, I think 680 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 5: you got to find a way to keep him and 681 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 5: make him a priority because I think there's plenty of 682 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 5: balls to go around when Marvin Harrison Junior is healthy. Obviously, 683 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 5: what Trey McBride's doing, that's three that's a three headed 684 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 5: monster that no other team in the league could have. 685 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 5: And what he's able to do and with how big 686 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 5: all of them are. 687 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: I know. 688 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 6: That's what's amazing. 689 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got he's got a little bit of size 690 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: to him. I love that. 691 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 1: A little get off me as well, you know what 692 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: I mean. And again he's very, very smart. Yet at 693 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 1: the same time, you're talking about a guy that is 694 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: growing in leaps and bounds and confidence. 695 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: Now. 696 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: Listen, I know everyone says to me, well, what are 697 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: you talking. These guys are in the National Football League. 698 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: These guys are confident guys. Of course, Listen, He's been 699 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: given the opportunity to go out and show that he 700 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: belongs in the NFL and he's a top tier wide 701 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: receiver and he has delivered. Don't tell me that that 702 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: doesn't give him more confidence right now, and saying, you 703 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: know what, when the shadows are creeping at night and 704 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: it's two thirty in the morning and you look up 705 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: and you're awake and you're thinking about your job, and 706 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: you say to yourself, I can do this, man, there's 707 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: a whole different level that you get to. And I 708 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: think we're seeing that with Michael Wilson right now. Confidence 709 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: is everything in the NFL. 710 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 5: It is I'm telling you, like, there's so many guys 711 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 5: that are top five picks and they lose their confidence, 712 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, their level play goes off 713 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 5: a cliff. There's so many guys that are seventh round 714 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 5: picks and you just instilled just a little bit of confidence, 715 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 5: and all of a sudden they play like first rounders. 716 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: I had an old coach that used to say confidence 717 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: is the currency of competition. It's right, you buy and 718 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: sell performances based on your confidence level. 719 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 2: That's what he saw. 720 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 6: And how do you get eighteen targets in a game? 721 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 6: When you earn the confidence from your quarterback? 722 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 10: He has no fear, you know. It seems like he 723 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 10: has complete trust in me. And I can see that, 724 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 10: you know, and I can I can feel that from 725 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 10: Weh're I throwing the ball and just say if it's 726 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 10: an incompletion, which is very rare we have, he'll come 727 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 10: back and tell me like it's his fault. I'm like, 728 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 10: you don't have to do that to me, Like I'm 729 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 10: I'm old enough, you don't have the baby with me, 730 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 10: you know, Just the amount of like confidence that he 731 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 10: gives me, you know, And I just feel it, like 732 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 10: when we come out of hole and I'm like, I'm 733 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 10: going to Mike. I just can kind of like fill 734 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 10: it in this route and his intent when he when 735 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 10: he's breaking open and he getting his eyes back to 736 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 10: the quarterback, I'm like, he's catching. 737 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 6: It when he sees it's to the point now. And 738 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 6: he said as much. If he sees Michael Wilson one 739 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 6: on one, he's open. Those are the elite receivers, even 740 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 6: if they're covered, they're open throwing the ball, you know. 741 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 6: And he's got athleticism, you know, sort of like AQ 742 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 6: like maybe like you you know, back in the basketball days, right, 743 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 6: I mean, if Charles Barkley was the round to rebound, 744 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 6: you know, you must have been the round mound. You know, 745 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 6: they're in the pain, right, I mean, you know, boom, 746 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 6: you got to establish your position downfield. You got to 747 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 6: learn how to use your body. 748 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 5: And I think these guys, well, obviously I knew how 749 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 5: to I mean as right as I am tall, so 750 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 5: I had to learn that at an early age, especially 751 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 5: playing basketball. But I mean when you look at what 752 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 5: Michael Wilson does again, it's it's the contested catches, it's 753 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 5: the fifty to fifty balls, it's the ones down you know, 754 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 5: down the field where maybe it's a little bit under thrown, 755 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 5: but you allow him to go up and make a play. 756 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 5: It's all of these things, and that's how you generate chunks, 757 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 5: That's how you generate explosives, because you give the receiver 758 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 5: a chance. With how big these guys are, with how 759 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 5: strong their hands are, just give them a chance. Put 760 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 5: it down the field, let them go up and make 761 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 5: a play, and guess what if it doesn't, then there's 762 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 5: still an opportunity for a past interference or doesn't you 763 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 5: live to fight another guy? Right and you go to 764 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 5: the next one, you try it again. 765 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: You know also too, you got to remember most defensive coordinators, 766 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to say all of them, but most 767 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: defensive coordinators, when they come in to play the Ariazonder Cardinals, 768 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: they're thinking, how are we going to take make away 769 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: Trey McBride? Yep, how are we going to take him away? 770 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: What are we going to do to take him? What 771 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: is our plan to take care of Trey McBride? And 772 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: I think that also helps a guy like Michael Wilson 773 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: at this point in time. I think that gives him 774 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of responsibility and a little bit of 775 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: freedom as well, because they're so focused on taking away 776 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: Trey McBride. Now it becomes a little bit more difficult 777 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson. It's going to be interesting to see what 778 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: defensive coordinators are going to be willing to do to 779 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson going forward, knowing he's getting targeted to the 780 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: degree that he is and he's producing to the level 781 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: he is. 782 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 6: And Trey confirmed for us yesterday after he had the 783 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 6: two chunk catches in the opening drive that when five 784 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 6: plays sixty seven yards ended up in the end zone 785 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 6: to Michael Wilson, but he had the two key plays downfield, 786 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 6: he said, Yep, the defense changed to me the rest 787 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 6: of the game. I didn't get another try to play 788 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 6: the rest of the game because they changed. But he's 789 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 6: still tied for the league leading catches with ninety three. 790 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 6: What have you seen out of Trey McBride this year? 791 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 6: And you heard the coach at the end of the 792 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 6: Tampa game come up to him and say, you know what, 793 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 6: You're a gigantic pain in the bleep and and just 794 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 6: how problematic he is for a defense. To me, he's 795 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 6: the heart and soul of that offense. I really believe that. 796 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 5: I watch how hard he plays, he reminds me of 797 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 5: when I went to Tampa and I got to watch 798 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 5: how hard Rob Gronkowski practiced and obviously the way he 799 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 5: played the game. I mean, that's that's what you're getting 800 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 5: with Trey McBride. He's obviously not as big as Gronk, 801 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 5: but he is. 802 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 6: He's got swag. 803 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 5: I mean, he blocks, he fights, He you see him 804 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 5: doubled over in the huddle. You can tell he's giving 805 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 5: it is all on every single play. When he's tired, 806 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 5: he's not tapping his helmet and checking himself out like 807 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 5: you see far too often across this league. And he's 808 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 5: constantly in there. He's constantly pushing and fighting through whether 809 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 5: it's a big shot over the middle, and he just brings. 810 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 6: So much to this team. And he's and he's and 811 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 6: he's so good at football, he really is. 812 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 5: And I think but it's more the other intangibles outside 813 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 5: of what he brings football wise, the juice, the energy 814 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 5: that he brings. 815 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 6: To that offense. 816 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: And you know, Paul, I just want to jump in 817 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: and say this, and you know, I love Trey McBride 818 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: right now. 819 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 2: This guy. 820 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: I love the fact that he wants to block, that 821 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: he's trying to block. 822 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 2: And he does. He does work at that and cares 823 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 2: about doing that. 824 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: And I also love his accountability against the Tampa Bay Bucks. 825 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: When that fourth and one was called, he cracked down 826 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: on the block and you know what, he missed the block. 827 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: He didn't get it done. And for Trey, it looked 828 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: like he felt like he had already. 829 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 2: Done his job. 830 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 1: And then he came off it and he was accountable 831 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: after the game and called himself out on it. That's 832 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 1: why that kid is going to be a great player. 833 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 6: It's funny you name drop Gronk because he did a 834 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 6: national media tour this morning. I heard one of the 835 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 6: interviews and the question was what hurts now after your 836 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 6: playing career? I pose that question to you Aq Shipley 837 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 6: and Ron Wolfley after your playing career. And his answer was, 838 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 6: you know what, if I keep up with my workouts 839 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 6: in my sleep, he said, I feel pretty good, said, 840 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 6: but if I get behind on workouts and sleepyes all 841 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 6: everything starts to hurt. But is there you know after 842 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 6: you guys both played more than ten years in the league, 843 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 6: and how many collisions? 844 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 2: Right? 845 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 6: What? 846 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 7: What? 847 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: What? 848 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 6: What doesn't feel as good permanently? Any sort of permanent damage? 849 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 6: These days. 850 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 4: Wow. 851 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 5: Here's what I do know is I'm as you know, 852 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 5: I'm a big pickleball player these days, and so oh no, 853 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 5: let me tell you yeah, okay, I mean after today, 854 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 5: by the way, I played two and a half hours 855 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 5: of pickleball. 856 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 6: I got another match tomorrow morning. Forty five sounds like 857 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 6: it sounds like it's high stakes tomorrow. 858 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I'm gonna have to get up and 859 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 5: get in the hot tub. I'm gonna have to really 860 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 5: stretch tomorrow morning. I'm telling you, like, these little nagging 861 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 5: injuries are adding up the older I'm getting ready. 862 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: N Yeah for me, Paul metaphorically speaking, I feel like 863 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: a boil. Have you ever seen a boil? 864 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 6: Paul? 865 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,479 Speaker 1: And it's just oozing? Stuff is oozing on the enjoy 866 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: your guys. I'm just I'm sorry about that, folks. I'm 867 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: just telling you right now, ball I had the inflammation. 868 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 2: I can feel it. 869 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 6: Back to pickleball. Drew Stan, Larry Fitzgerald, a Q Shipley. 870 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 6: What's the powerpole pickleball players there? If you had to 871 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 6: rank them? I would how would that go? 872 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 5: Feel real good about where Drew and I are. I'd 873 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 5: love to see Larry on a pickleball court right now. 874 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 5: And by the way, I'm playing with Drew stand tomorrow morning. Okay, 875 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 5: all right, we got a nice little match lined up. 876 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 5: But Larry, if you hear this, oh, I'd love to 877 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 5: see you on the on the courts. 878 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: Wow, how about that frids get Yeah, it's just too 879 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 1: busy with business right now. 880 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 5: He's he's starting to look like an offensive lineman these days. 881 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 5: He put a few pounds on. Okay, I'm starting to 882 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 5: lose the weight and it's like a sliding scale right now. 883 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 6: Wow, he got extremely real locker room Adrian Adrian Wilson 884 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 6: piled on and now EQ adding to uh, Larry, okay, 885 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 6: bird gang, make sure you vote for your favorite Cardinals 886 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 6: send him to the Pro Bowl. Go to Azycardinals dot 887 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 6: com Slash Pro Bowl, Azycardinals dot Com Slash Pro Bowl. 888 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 6: That's where you go. And by the way, Paris Johnson 889 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 6: Junior leading the fan vote right now in the NFC 890 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 6: among tackles, Josh Sweat is number three, Kalaias Campbell's in 891 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 6: the top five as well, so Trey McBride number two. 892 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 6: So we'll see might get some good representation on that. 893 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 6: Oh boy, we're gonna talk about the Houston Texans and 894 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 6: that top rank defense. Next the Big Red Rage at 895 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 6: Flanker Kitchen at Sports Bar on the Great Lawn at 896 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 6: State Farm Stadium. 897 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 2: From the shotgun is Darnell. 898 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 6: He'll throw from his goal on fresh sure coming backs. 899 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 2: Into the inzon. 900 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 7: He's in trouble. The ball is out of the insode, 901 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 7: Will Anderson quit the strip and the recovery HiT's a 902 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 7: Houston touchdown. 903 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 6: What a turn of events. 904 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 7: Donald in the insol hasn't ripped out of his hands 905 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 7: and Will Anderson graps it bur a Houston touchdown. 906 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 6: That's in high life because it happened at Seattle in 907 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 6: front of the twelves. The force bubble and the touchdown. 908 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 6: We're talking the number one defense in the NFL, number 909 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 6: one in scoring D, number one in total D. They 910 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 6: are top five and takeaways just crazy stats. Fact You 911 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 6: guys can go get a beer here at Flanker Kitchen 912 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 6: at Sports Bar in the Great Lawn at State Farm Stadium. 913 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 6: It's the Big Red Rage presented by Emergency Here, Ron Wolfley, 914 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 6: You Shipley and you're truly Paul KELVC because I can 915 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 6: just give you stats and factoids on this Houston d 916 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 6: all day long. I'll just give you one right here. 917 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 6: They have more interceptions than they have passing touchdowns. 918 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 2: Allowed, and that sums it up, Pauli. 919 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 6: Three of their dbs are in the top six in 920 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 6: the league and passer rating allowed, and I'm guessing that 921 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,439 Speaker 6: has a lot to do gentlemen with the pass rush, right, 922 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 6: I know? 923 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 8: Do? 924 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 6: I mean, that's a DB's best friend. When you have 925 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 6: Daniel Hunter and Will Anderson Junior coming off the. 926 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: Edges, There's no doubt about it, Pauli. And also too, guys, 927 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm big on the defensive quarterback rating. You know this, Paulie, 928 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm really big on that because quarterback rating, for the 929 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: most part in the National Football League. Why is it 930 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: that the top ten quarterbacks year after year typically the 931 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: best quarterbacks in the league are are there in the 932 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: top ten for quarterback rating? Why is that? It's because 933 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: it's a human being that's playing the quarterback position at 934 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: a very high level. That's why the best quarterbacks typically 935 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: are in the top ten in the NFL. So if 936 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: you flip it over and you look at it defensively, 937 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: what is your defensive quarterback rating? It makes a lot 938 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: of sense to me, and you look at their defensive 939 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: quarterback rating number one in the National Football League, sixty 940 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: nine point eight. That's what they give up as a 941 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: quarterback rating. And by the way, the last three games 942 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: where they faced maybe future Hall of Fame quarterbacks, sixty 943 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: point eight is the quarterback rating they've given up. Unbelievable. 944 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 6: Well, I know, in the last month they've gone against 945 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 6: Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes and combined zero touchdowns five picks. There, 946 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 6: it is, so all right, iqu here's Jonathan Gannon. What 947 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 6: stands out about will Anderson Junior? And then we'll get 948 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 6: your take. 949 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 9: Elite in tangibles, that's what I remember that first hand 950 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 9: stands out with them elead in tangibles when you hear 951 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 9: coach Saban talk about him like he didn't talk about 952 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 9: many guys like that. And then obviously just the skill set, 953 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 9: you know, I mean, he's powerful, he's explosive, he's smart, 954 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 9: he knows how to play the game, he knows how 955 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 9: to set up things, and that's just. 956 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 6: Rushing the pass. 957 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,959 Speaker 2: And then he's very ball away. 958 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 6: He takes the ball away. 959 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 9: And then in a run game, when you watch a 960 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 9: run game, it's very impressive. 961 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's third in quarterback pressures behind Micah Parsons and 962 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 6: Aiden Hutchinson Will Anderson Junior. So he's phenomenal. 963 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 2: He really is. 964 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 5: When you turn on the tape and you see Will 965 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 5: Anderson and what he's become, I don't think a lot 966 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 5: of I mean, obviously he went number two of ROULSA, 967 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,479 Speaker 5: they thought that, But like when I was breaking down 968 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 5: that draft, I thought he was going to be Brandon Graham, 969 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 5: and Brandon Graham was a great pro right forever. Ye 970 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 5: really good defensive end for the Philadelphia Eagles. But he's 971 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,439 Speaker 5: never gonna be that ten plus sack of year guy. 972 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 5: He's ten plus sack a year guy. He's great in 973 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 5: the run. And then you got the guy on the 974 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 5: other side, Danil Hunter, who's an absolute freakazoid who has 975 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 5: made offensive tackles look so for years. And like I 976 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 5: said earlier this week, it's like, if you don't know 977 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 5: who this guy is, just google him because he looks 978 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 5: like an avatar out there. He's built like a Madden 979 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 5: Creative player. He's six foot seven, he's two hundred and 980 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 5: seventy five pounds. He's the most athletic guy on the field. 981 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 5: He's got arms like he's a Greek god. And oh, 982 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 5: by the way, he runs a four or five forty 983 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 5: and he's got forty inch arms. 984 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 6: Good luck, good luck. 985 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 5: I mean, I had to play against this guy, and 986 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 5: I remember the first time I had to do. We 987 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 5: played Minnesota. Hear when he was playing for Minnesota. I 988 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 5: was with the Cardinals in twenty fifteen game that we 989 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 5: won on Thursday night football, and I was I had 990 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 5: to pull across and kick him out. I remember after 991 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 5: the play like looking up like, Oh, I don't know 992 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 5: if I'm still built for this. 993 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 6: If the guys are. 994 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 5: Gonna start looking like this, if guys are gonna start 995 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 5: looking like this, I don't know how much more. 996 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible about this defense. Paulyly too. I just 997 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: want to jump in here. Tamiko Ryans does a great job. 998 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: Matt Burke is a defensive coordinator of course, right, and 999 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: Tamiko Ryan's a defensive minded guy. 1000 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 2: But they're in zone cover eighty percent of the time. 1001 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 2: Over eighty percent of the time. 1002 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, they're in zone, and they 1003 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: like to close more times than not the middle of 1004 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: the field. They like to do that as well. But 1005 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: the reason why they're playing as much zone as they're 1006 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: playing is because they can get pressure on a quarterback 1007 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: with four bring four, get pressure on him, and now 1008 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, throw it to us, and we're 1009 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: gonna play zone cover. 1010 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 2: That's what they have. 1011 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: Some really good DB's, PAULI, really good corners as well. 1012 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna throw us the ball and that's why we're 1013 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: gonna play an awful lot of zone and that's why 1014 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: they're number three in interception rate in the National Football League. 1015 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 2: The Texans know how to turn you over. 1016 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 6: It's interesting because they do have the dudes to play man. 1017 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 6: I mean Derek Stingley Juniors, first team All Pro. Yeah, 1018 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 6: Derek Stingley Juniors. I mean, he might be the best 1019 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,919 Speaker 6: corner in football. Pea Trees unbelievable. They're taking the ball 1020 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 6: away left and right. Every time you turn around, they're 1021 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 6: getting a tip and an overthrow. R Lassiter's unbelievable. He's 1022 00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 6: become fantastic. So they got guys everywhere. They're linebacking. Cores 1023 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 6: is really good. 1024 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 5: And Al Shahre, I think is how you pronounce his 1025 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 5: name came from the forty nine ers toll. 1026 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 6: Toal but then we mentioned the edge guys. 1027 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 5: But then they got Deniko Autrey on the interior playing 1028 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 5: three technique. 1029 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 6: I mean they got guys everywhere, they really do, Paul, 1030 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 6: this is gonna be a tough match. So is it 1031 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 6: max protect real quick? Is it max protect all game? Well, 1032 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 6: if you're only gonna rush four, you got to figure 1033 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 6: out a way. You're always gonna have an extra guy. 1034 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 6: There's five O alignment, right, So if you can somehow 1035 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 6: send a back one way, send the line one way, 1036 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 6: you can get a chip with a tight end to 1037 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 6: chiple it back. 1038 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 5: Now you're basically getting six on four. You should be 1039 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 5: able to block these guys a little bit. 1040 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 2: You're such a center. 1041 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 6: Come on, come on, Special Banks as always, Jim Mo Monro, 1042 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 6: Cody Fincher, Wald Ellis, Lawrence Ellis, Matt Lazarus for a 1043 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 6: Q Shipley everyone, how about it? Yeah? 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