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Speaker 1: Brought to you by the All New Toyota Corolla. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and there's

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Speaker 1: Charles W. Lewis Bryant. I thought you were gonna come me, touis. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, like I thought about it. You're

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Speaker 1: like that chuckle, do that dumb joke. I wondered if

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Speaker 1: I was related to um Mr Clark. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say I am from now on. She's like,

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Speaker 1: if you heard of William Clark, the explorer, Lewis and Clark. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I'm Josh Clark because Clark's the unusual name. You

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Speaker 1: might be no, but I mean like his family, Uh

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Speaker 1: was from the Ohio River Valley. I grew up in Toledo. Hey,

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Speaker 1: there you go. I wonder you have an explorer spirit.

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Speaker 1: You're a laid back guy. He was laid back yep,

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Speaker 1: not like Lewis. He was semi literate. Yeah, I'm fairly literate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the big distinction. It is funny, like have you

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Speaker 1: read some of his verbatim journal unentry Clark's or Lewis's, well,

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Speaker 1: both of them, but Clark's way worse. Uh. Yeah, Lewis

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Speaker 1: is pretty good writer, I thought, yeah, but he had

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Speaker 1: some weird spellings. To Clark was just like frontier Kentucky

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Speaker 1: boy writing in a Yeah. They were a good pair though. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And this isn't one of those podcasts where or stories

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Speaker 1: where you look back and you're like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: histories really pumped this up and they were really kind

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Speaker 1: of like this and like jerks and no, No, this

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Speaker 1: was really a great story and they were actually true

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Speaker 1: American heroes, you know, one semi tragic. I would say, well,

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Speaker 1: the ending is pretty tragic. No, but Lewis lewis manic depressive. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: by all accounts. Yeah, back then they called it prone

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Speaker 1: to you know, prone to fits, but modern people say, no,

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Speaker 1: he was probably manic depressive. Uh. And I prepped by

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Speaker 1: watching the four hour Ken Burns documentary last night. Four hours. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was two hours, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I got this, And then I got to, uh, the

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Speaker 1: two hour point, and I was like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: they just hit the Continental divide. I don't think I'm

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Speaker 1: at the end. That's so funny because in the email

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Speaker 1: you you emailed me to suggest that I watch it.

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Speaker 1: You called it a six part not four hour. Well

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Speaker 1: they had it on YouTube in six parts, but in

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Speaker 1: actuality it's twelve parts. All right, So let's do this.

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Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite stories in history, is

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Speaker 1: it really? Yeah? Man? And again I've said this before.

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Speaker 1: Why isn't this a movie, like a really good movie? Not?

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Speaker 1: Have you seen almost heroes? Yeah? Right, there you go. No, alright,

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Speaker 1: So Chuck um Lewis and Clark Merriwether Lewis William Clark,

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Speaker 1: pair of UM army folk turned explorers thanks to a

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Speaker 1: little bit of um I guess serendipity. It would have

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Speaker 1: been somebody else had it not been these guys. Because really,

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Speaker 1: the whole idea of this expedition, which was called the

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Speaker 1: Core of Discovery, it sounds like a soccer team. Um

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Speaker 1: it was. It was the brainchild of Thomas Jefferson. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in the brainchild of t J. Because he's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I just bought I just doubled the size of our

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Speaker 1: country by buying a bunch of land from Napoleon. Do

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Speaker 1: you know the background on that, the Louisiana purchase. I know,

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Speaker 1: it's the greatest land deal in the history of the world. Probably,

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Speaker 1: But what what do you mean, Well, it was the

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Speaker 1: Frenches land and they were about to get it from

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Speaker 1: they were about to get it given to the Spanish. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Spanish were west of them, so probably, and the

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Speaker 1: French like had barely any presence in this area, but

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Speaker 1: it was their land. But the Spanish, had they taken over,

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Speaker 1: they would have been a real problem because the Americans

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Speaker 1: had access to the Port of New Orleans because the

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Speaker 1: French were basically absentee landlords there, and so the idea

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Speaker 1: been recommended to him by his people, like just sell

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Speaker 1: it to the Americans. They're coming over, they want to talk.

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Speaker 1: So I think James Monroe was sent by Thomas Jefferson

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Speaker 1: with the a limit of ten million dollars to do

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Speaker 1: The United States could have ended it about the Mississippi River,

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Speaker 1: on the other side could have been Spain or not Spain,

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Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, a Spanish colony. Well,

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Speaker 1: it could have been a lot like um Africa, you know,

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Speaker 1: like all these former colonies that are just like adjacent

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Speaker 1: And this expedition was gonna happen anyway, but we thought

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Speaker 1: and they had um a new great father, which is

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Speaker 1: live under his patronage. But not really right sign this treaty.

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Speaker 1: Uh so uh he named he was his private secretary.

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Speaker 1: abs point. Yeah, and you would think that's setting it

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00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: up to say in like big problems arose because of it.

424
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: But it really worked pretty well. No, because they were

425
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: also trained in plain sign language to Apparently there was

426
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: a lot of UM gesturing that was fairly universal that

427
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: a lot of the people who were recruited in St.

428
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: Louis originally were familiar with two. Yeah, they got along

429
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: pretty well, they did, all right. So after the Mandon villages,

430
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: they broke camp and went on um to the confluence

431
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: of Yellowstone with the Missouri and entered the land where

432
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: they started seeing, like when they hit the planes, they

433
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: started seeing these crazy animals they've never seen before. Uh.

434
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: It's important to say they didn't discover anything. Yeah, it's

435
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: very important to say that they were just the first

436
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: white guys to record it for science. Um, but prairie

437
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: dogs and elk and buffalo by the tens of thousands. Uh, antelope,

438
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: all kinds of things to them that were just these

439
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: weird animals. Um. They actually sent a live prairie dog

440
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: back to Jefferson, which is pretty it's hious and it

441
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: made it all the way U Grizzly Bears. They encountered

442
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: those for the first time on this expedition. Yeah, they

443
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 1: were warned at the grizzly by the Indians and they

444
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: were like we we've hunted brown Bear and black Bear.

445
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: And then they were kind of like holy crap. Like

446
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: in their journals they were like, I've never seen anything

447
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: like this. It took ten shots and we almost died,

448
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: and the Grizzly Bears to be reckoned with. Lewis said

449
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: something like, um, I'd rather fight two Indians than one

450
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: Grizzly Bear. Yeah. So here we are in early June. Uh,

451
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: they reached the point where the Missouri divided that they

452
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: didn't they weren't told about this, uh fork, So like

453
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: huh right, what should we do here? In equal parts

454
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: north and south? Yeah, I mean it was like a

455
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: hardcore left and right that was uh, basically everyone in

456
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: the party agreed on one direction except Lewis and Clark.

457
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: They were like, we were old school, we like in sync. Yeah.

458
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: So they despite the fact that everyone disagreed, they followed them,

459
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: and that just shows like how united they were They

460
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: were like, you know what, we don't think you guys

461
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: are right, but we're going to follow you because you

462
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: were our captains, right, and we want to see your

463
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: faces when you realize you're wrong, which actually would happen,

464
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't lead to like eating each other like

465
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: the dinner party, no, huh um. So they keep mosying

466
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: along and they're doing pretty well. They apparently they got

467
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: to a point where, um Clark looked down one day,

468
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: I think it was Clark, it was possibly Lewis too.

469
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: It was Lewis and he realized that a little stream

470
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: at his feet was running west and he realized that

471
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: they just crossed the Continental Divide. Yeah, that was the

472
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: mouth of the Missouri that they were literally straddling with

473
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: their feet. Yeah, and they that meant that now they

474
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: had just left the Missouri, and we're going to hook up.

475
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: First they went on to the Snake River, but that

476
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: would take them to the Columbia River, which, by their reckoning,

477
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: would take them to the Pacific Ocean. So they'd made

478
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: it like a substantial amount of distance. Yeah. That was

479
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: a depressing moment though for Louis, because he he thought

480
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: when he reached that ridge that he would look and

481
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: see just downhill to the ocean, and what he saw

482
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: was rocky mountains Nevada. Yeah, and he was like, oh man,

483
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: this is not going to be very easy. No, we

484
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: didn't know about the rocky mountains. No. And even uh

485
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: even still, when they finally do think that they see

486
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: the ocean, they still were twenty five miles away from

487
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: it when they finally get to that point, yeah, which

488
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: we'll get to. Oh, that's right. Uh So, what they

489
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: ended up doing they made a mistake because there was

490
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: a shortcut they could have taken. They would have taken

491
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: four days, and instead they had to go work their

492
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: way around the Great Falls of Montana, which took uh

493
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: fifty three days of portage. Uneasy portage, yeah, because this

494
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: portage was like carrying these boats. But also these guys

495
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: were wearing like moccasins and stuff, and they had a

496
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: huge problem with prickly pear, yeah, which would just go

497
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: right through your bokusen. It's basically like stepping on nails

498
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: the whole time while you're carrying a very heavy boat. Yeah,

499
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: and all your supplies whiskey and you know, food, salt.

500
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: Uh So in July they arrived at another fork. Three forks.

501
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: They named them the Gallatin for the Secretary of Treasury,

502
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: the Madison for the Secretary of State, and the Jefferson,

503
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: and decided to follow the Jefferson because there was more

504
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: to it. I think, yeah, And I think they were like,

505
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: this is the one that is going to head west,

506
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: so they follow that. I think at this pointer, either

507
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: right before or right after, they they meet up with

508
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: the Shoshone. Have they met the Shoshoni yet? Uh? Well,

509
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: at this point Lewis went off by himself, um, and

510
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: a couple of more people to find the Shoshoni, including

511
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: psychic away right or No, she wasn't there yet. I

512
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: don't think she was there yet. But he did find them,

513
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 1: and um he basically said, hey, we come in peace.

514
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: We have a camp back here. We want you to

515
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: come hang out at. Well. They were in bad shape

516
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: apparently this is show anywhere. Yeah, they were pretty worse

517
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: for the wear and very docile as a result. Um.

518
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: So he met these women and children and told them

519
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: all that stuff and they came back and hung out

520
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: with them, and at Camp Soka Goea recognized one of

521
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: the women that Clark was a Clark or Lewis I

522
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: think at this point it was both who who they

523
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: came back with and said, hey, we found some shoon

524
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: and she said, hey, that's actually my bff from first grade.

525
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: Because remember Soa had been um kidnapped and sold, so

526
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: there were still members of her tribe living around the

527
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: Rockies and um, she actually met up with them and

528
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: with her brother who was now chief. Yes, she was

529
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: like your chief and you know it, little sister, and

530
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: he went, you're married to a French trapper. She's like

531
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: that guy. Not really he bought me, uh, which is

532
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: not funny at all, you know. Um. So then they

533
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: proceeded across the continental divide to the main village with

534
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 1: the Shoshonees and uh hard on a tour guide, old Toby,

535
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: which is a great name for an Indian tour guide,

536
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: and said Toby said, you know, I'll lead you through

537
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: these mountains, but we're gonna need some horses to eat

538
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be rough and to travel with. Right,

539
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: But this is where they were really eating a lot

540
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: of horse meat. Yeah, the Bitter Root Mountains. It was

541
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: pretty rough through Montana and Idaho. Uh and that was

542
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: when you know, their spirits were never broken. But that's

543
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: when they were dampened for sure. So um, when they

544
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: make it through the bitter Roots, I don't remember why

545
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: they did or where, but there was a point where

546
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: they said, we can't use these horses anymore. I guess

547
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: it's when they got onto the Columbia River, right. Well,

548
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: maybe is this where they were eating salmon and the

549
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: salmon was making them sick? Yes, So they come to

550
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: a pierced village with old Toby I believe it, at

551
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 1: the lead and um, they're celebrated, welcome, they throw a

552
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: feast for him, and it makes every buddy violently ill

553
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: in the expedition, like the salmon is awful, yeah, or

554
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: these roots or whatever. I'll bet it was the roots

555
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: that got them. Yeah, I think it was. Um. So

556
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: every apparently everyone recovered. Um, but they say, okay, well

557
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: here's the Columbia River. We can't really use these horses anymore.

558
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that's very much overlooked

559
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: in the history of this expedition is just how much

560
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: the core discovery relied on friendly tribes. So like when

561
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: they hit the Columbia River, they said, hey, Shoshone or

562
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: no Nez Pierce friends, will you watch our horses for us.

563
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: And then as Pierce said, yes, you guys go to

564
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: the Pacific Ocean. When you come back, we'll have your horses.

565
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: Go ahead and brand them so you know which ones

566
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: are yours, And they did. They left their horses with

567
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: the Nez Pierce. Yeah, I mean it was it was

568
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: kind of the best case scenario story for most of

569
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: the trip. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Uh. And that is

570
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: actually too where they were where they traded for dog

571
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: to eat, which was one of the only disappointing parts

572
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: of the story for me. Um, that and what happened

573
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: New York. All right, So at this point, it's uh,

574
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: mid October, it floated down to the Great Falls of

575
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: the Columbia, which is now Solilo Falls. I think about

576
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: how much easier it was at this point, like they're

577
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: not going upstream any longer they get with the current. True,

578
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: but it was the Oregon territory, so they were getting

579
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: rained on constantly. I mean it was pretty brutal conditions. Um,

580
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: but you're right. It wasn't like slugging through in the summertime,

581
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: pulling that boat up stream, stepping on prickly pear exactly. Uh.

582
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: So this is where on November seven, they thought that

583
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: they saw the ocean. It's actually a bay about inland.

584
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: And one of them said ocean in view O c

585
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: I N I love the ocean O T e A N.

586
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: In this the same paragraph they misspelled ocean two different ways.

587
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: Give him a break, come on. Uh. Finally, finally, finally,

588
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: by mid November, they strode upon the sands of the Pacific.

589
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: And this is the really sad part is that Merryweather

590
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: called it tempestuous and horrible. Like he wasn't like, oh,

591
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: we made it. He was he was depressed, and he

592
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: was like, this isn't like the Atlantic coach, and this

593
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: is rocky and beating us with waves like the Organ

594
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: coast is rough. Uh. And he didn't cotton to it.

595
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: But what he did cotton to was being an accurate dude.

596
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: By dead reckoning over the course of over he was

597
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: only off by forty miles in charting this, this ride

598
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: that is pretty amazing, is pretty remarkable. So sagawea Um.

599
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: One of the reasons she signed on, aside from being

600
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: a slave to her husband who signed her on um,

601
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: was that she wanted to see the Pacific. She'd heard

602
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: about the Great Waters and yeah, and so when they

603
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: were getting closer, Um, she petitioned Lewis and Clark saying like,

604
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: there's no way you can't let me not come with

605
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: you to see the Pacific Ocean itself. And they let

606
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: her come along. They had word from some local tribe,

607
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm not sure which one it was that there was

608
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: a monstrous fish on the beach, and Lewis and clarker

609
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: like they're talking about a whale. We should go get

610
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: some blubber, and so aways like I'm there, I'm coming

611
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: with you. So they took her along and they all

612
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: got to go see the Pacific Ocean and it was

613
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: personal that first time. Yeah, they got a bunch of

614
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: blubber and oil and stuff from it. Um, and it

615
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: died first, So you can keep liking Lewis and Clark Um.

616
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: So uh, they camp there on the Pacific for a

617
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: full four months. Yeah. Basically they were trying to two things.

618
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: They were trying to decide what to do, and they

619
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: were technically they were waiting for a boat to come by, say,

620
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: a letter of credit from Jefferson that said, hey, if

621
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: you're a boat, give these people a ride back and

622
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: we'll pay you like good money, right, I read that

623
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: they never seriously thought that they were going to take

624
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: a boat back. Well, that was the deal is. Technically

625
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: they were supposed to be waiting for a vote. What

626
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: they were really doing was just sort of weighing their

627
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: options as to how best to go back and win.

628
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: And this is the really cool part. They put it

629
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: to a vote. They did put it to a vote, um,

630
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: and it was a vote that included an African American

631
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: and a woman and a Native American, and it was

632
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: a who Saya and York both both their votes were

633
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: given equal weight to everybody else's. Where to camp? Set

634
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: up camp for the winner. Yeah, so they elected to

635
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: cross the river to the south Um where they were

636
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: informed that there was elk and deer. You can hold

637
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: up here, you can hunt all winter, and they did,

638
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: and prepare yourself for the return journey home, which we'll

639
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: get to after this message. All right, So here we

640
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: are at Fort Clatsop o Yea named after the Clatsop tribe.

641
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: They were hunting, They were storing up, they were getting

642
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: their provisions in order, getting ready to go back, and

643
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: they hauled butt on the way back. They did. Yeah,

644
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: you know how it is sure it plus it doesn't

645
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: take as long because now you know how long it's

646
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: gonna take. Yeah, And they weren't stopping to record everything

647
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: they did actually been there, um, but the group wasn't

648
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: as happy. Uh. They were irritable, especially Lewis. He kind

649
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: of fell into a depression on the way home. He

650
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: didn't did he come out of it at all while

651
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: they were at the Pacific or did it just stick

652
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: the whole time? Well, I mean I think it was

653
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: up and down. Basically, they believe when he was not

654
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: recording in his journal he was depressed. Um, but he

655
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: is remarkable and that he soldiered on like this is

656
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: a manic depressive who was still like getting up every

657
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: day and doing this and like the worst thing he

658
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: did was not journal you know. Um. Actually the worst

659
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: thing he did was on the way back he stole

660
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: a canow at one point, which is really out of character.

661
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: And he was described as kind of like cracking at

662
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: the seams at this point, which is really sad. So

663
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: March six, they started back up the Columbia with these

664
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: new canoes, bartered for some horses and camped with the

665
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: Nez Pierce for a month, and then they got their

666
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: horses back from the Nez Pierce. Those horses that those were,

667
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: there's the ones before they got back there to the

668
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: next piers. They bartered for some horses and then eventually

669
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: hooked back with the next pierce and camp for like

670
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: a month and got their horses back and got their

671
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: horses back. I think that's your favorite part of this night.

672
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, guys, were you hanging onto this for?

673
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: They also sunk their canoes at a certain point and

674
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: then went back and got those. He keep keep the

675
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: canoes from being sent down river. They just sunk them

676
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 1: and then they came back and got them. It's pretty cool.

677
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: So they basically retraced their trail through the Bitter Roots

678
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: UM only one retrograde march and the entire journey, which

679
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: means you have to double back Gale, which is in

680
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: itself pretty remarkable. Uh. And then on July six, they

681
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: separated UM back where they were at that original shortcut

682
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: that they should have taken, and said, hey, let's send

683
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: off some different factions here and do a little bit

684
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: more exploring and a little bit more recording of things.

685
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: They're like, we've slacked off. Well, yeah, because they were

686
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: kind of like I said, they were home, but on

687
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: the way home, Um, this is where Louis where they

688
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: ran into their first kind of violent episode with the

689
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: black Feet Indians, and um, a dude shot at Louis.

690
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: He shot back, hit the guy in the belly. Another

691
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: guy stabbed the Blackfeet Indian. Where is it a Blackfoot Indian?

692
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: And um, they rode away like the black Feet did,

693
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: but two of them died and it was you know,

694
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: it was sad they had gone all that way without

695
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: violence and they finally kind of had to their hand

696
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: was forced, essentially. Chuck. Also, Um, there was another shooting

697
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: that took place during this period, but this moment accidental.

698
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: Um Lewis was actually shot when he was mistaken for

699
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: an elk while he was out hunting with a member

700
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: of the expedition, Pierre Cruzette, and cruzatt Um didn't fess

701
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: up to it immediately. He was like, oh, I guess

702
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: from Indians. It must have been those black Feet and uh. Finally,

703
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: when they searched the area and found no sign of

704
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: black feet, Crusat was like, I'm sorry, I thought you're

705
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: an elk. I'm blind in one I don't forget, but

706
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm the fiddle player and everybody loves me, and Louis

707
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: was like, we'll just let it go and apparently was

708
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: really in a lot of pain. It hit him in

709
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: the try and like he had a very long and

710
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: difficult recovery for the rest of the time. But it

711
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: was about this time when everybody came back together. Yeah,

712
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: and this, you know, we're sort of simplifying this part

713
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: of the story. But they eventually did all meet back

714
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: up UM pretty remarkably. Like I think the story is

715
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: one of them around it a bin and right as

716
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: they did that, the others were rounding the band and

717
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: they're like, oh hey, it's you, Like it's you out

718
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: here in the middle of nowhere. Uh. So they've eventually

719
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: went back to demand in villages. That is where the

720
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: Charbonneau family UM left the expedition UM, and that is

721
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 1: where a private John Coulter, who was one of the men, said,

722
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: you know what St. Louis like, I didn't like it there.

723
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: I really like it out here. Can I can I

724
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 1: go back? And they're like, sure, man, go go west,

725
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: young man exactly, and he did. So he did. He

726
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: he was going to UM work with some French trappers

727
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: and they had a following up pretty quickly after. And

728
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: then this guy Coulter, Yeah, he went off on his

729
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: own and they think he was the first white person

730
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: to enter what's now Yellowstone Park, and he was. He

731
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: was the first to recount the geysers, and even um

732
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: still there's part of it called Coulter's Hell. Oh cool,

733
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: the guys are area of Yellowstone very cool. Uh So

734
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: reportedly the only thing they did not run out of

735
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: on the way home was powder, lead, paper, an inc or.

736
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: At least that's what Kinburn says, you know how they

737
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: put a little cherry on top of everything. Uh. Finally,

738
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: in September of eighteen o six, on the twenty three,

739
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: they arrived victorious in St. Louis and the river was

740
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: lined with people cheering for them, shooting their guns in

741
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: the air, and like we should point out, everyone thought

742
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: they were dead. Yeah, I mean for a long time,

743
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: like they were sending messages back in Prairie Dogs. But

744
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: then at a certain point that just wasn't possible. So

745
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: even Jefferson had given up hope. They've been like they've

746
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: been gone for two and a half years, like we're

747
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: not going to hear from Lewis and Clark again. And

748
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: then they did, and then they did, and um covered

749
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: about eight thousand miles over two years, four months and

750
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: nine days, discovered, I'm sorry, not discovered, recorded hundred and

751
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: twenty two animals that they had never seen, hundred and

752
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: seventy eight plants that they had never seen, and did

753
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: a pretty darn good job of cartographing. Cartographing is that

754
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: even a word? Yeah? I think it is drawn maps.

755
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: Um describing the Rocky mountains and Jeffrey was like, rocky mountains,

756
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: but I have mountains, now, what are those? And they

757
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: were like they're snow capped even in the summer, and

758
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: they were, you know, they've never seen any of this.

759
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: They were blown away. So um. After this, uh, Clark

760
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: sets up shop in St. Louis. Yeah, they doubled everyone's pay,

761
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: which was nice, and gave everyone a bunch of land. Right,

762
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: you got I think three d and twenty acres and

763
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: some Clark got six hundred each, but the rest of

764
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: the guy's got like almost the rest two people did

765
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: not get any land or any money, and that was

766
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:46,959
Speaker 1: SKAGWAYA and York, um, which sucks. Yeah, and apparently York

767
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: had a difficult reentry into slavery. I can imagine, So

768
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: could you think about like living like that and then

769
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: going back to being a slave. Yeah, And so he

770
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: asked um Clark for his freedom. He's like, I know,

771
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: I don't get landed all and stuff, but how about

772
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: my freedom? And Clark was like no, And not only that,

773
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: he wrote his brother a letter and said, you know,

774
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: York is being kind of uppity since he got back.

775
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: He's not he's not being a good slave and he's

776
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: having trouble and uh so I had to beat him. No. Yeah,

777
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: that was that was the one time I was like, oh, man, yeah,

778
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: that's pretty awful. It was like really headed in the

779
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: good direction. And all that had to happen was he

780
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: could have just said, yes, you are free, and then

781
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: it would have been the best story ever. Man. That's

782
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: that's really awful. I had no idea about that. Yeah.

783
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: And then there were there various accounts that he might

784
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: have been freed a few years later, or perhaps escaped.

785
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: No one is quite for sure, even though I've noticed

786
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: kin Burns does a lot of factual stating of things

787
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: that are disputed, Like he just said straight up that

788
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: he was freed five years later, and I read up

789
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: on it, and people like maybe not huh. Ken Burns

790
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: just does whatever his haircut tells him. I'm a sucker

791
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: for those things, though. I mean, and I know a

792
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: lot of documentary filmmakers kind of poopoo him. Yeah. Well,

793
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean that takes a certain interpretation, and that's that

794
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: exactly he said. Wait, hold on, I'm really disappointed in Clarks.

795
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: What do you want me to do? I don't know.

796
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: I guess to talk about Lewis. Yeah, I mean, Clark

797
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: went on, we should say to have like a very

798
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: successful rest of his career. Well, hold on, you want

799
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: to bright side? Bill Clinton in two thousand one gave

800
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: a posthumous um rank a sergeant in the army to York.

801
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: Oh great, so that's kind of nice and um, way

802
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: to go Clinton. Today, there are some statues commemorating York.

803
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: One in Louisville, Kentucky. I think there's one at Lewis

804
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: and Clark College in Portland. In Kansas City, there's one.

805
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: So he's He's definitely been smiled upon historically as like

806
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: a great man and adventurer by everyone but William Clark. Yeah,

807
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: and his family, who was like no, So Louis had

808
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: some difficulties upon returning home, he's made governor appointed governor

809
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: of the Upper Louisiana Territory. I think started out well,

810
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: but then he kind of got into financial trouble. I

811
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: think his territory got into financial trouble, right and Washington

812
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to complete. The big thing was that

813
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to complete what he was supposed to do,

814
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: which has come back and write about the whole thing. Yeah,

815
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: those weren't published until eighteen fourteen, which is eight years

816
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: after they returned. And even then they were published after

817
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: his death. Yeah, so he was. He was, by all accounts,

818
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: pretty depressed. He was on his way to Washington supposedly

819
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: to plead for more money for the territory. Yeah, to

820
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: kind of he had been called out on some finances

821
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: and he wanted to go clear that up. And supposedly

822
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: he had some some of his journals that he wanted

823
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: to turn in. It's like here, I've got this right.

824
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: And he fell out of favor a little bit with

825
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: Jefferson because of all that, which is you know, kind

826
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: of sneaks. It is because he was groomed by Jefferson.

827
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: There was a family friend, like they were friends. So um, Lewis.

828
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: I guess he's on his way to Washington. He's following

829
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: the Natchez Trails trace and he stops in Tennessee at

830
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: a place called the Grinders in near Nashville, and that's

831
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: where he died. He was he was found well, apparently

832
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: crawling toward the innkeeper's wife, shot bleeding, asking for water,

833
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: and she just like screamed and ran away. Yeah. And

834
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: this is another disputed thing. Was he killed or did

835
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: he commit suicide? Uh? If you google death of Meriwether Lewis,

836
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 1: that comes up suicide. But it is definitely in dispute. Yeah.

837
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: And ken Burne straight up said he killed himself and

838
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: it was very sad. Well. The reason why it's in

839
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: disputes because he was shot in the abdomen and in

840
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: the head. Ye. It's also an expert marksman. Yeah. And

841
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: the suicide people I think reckon that back then with guns,

842
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: Like if you really wanted to do it, you would

843
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: point one at your chest and wan at your head

844
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: and squeeze at the same time. Yeah, Like I um,

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Speaker 1: but the people said he was murdered for money, and

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Speaker 1: what were you gonna say? Nothing? Okay? Uh? Sadly, even

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Speaker 1: though this story had a happy ending. It was sort

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Speaker 1: of the beginning of the end of the American Indian Um.

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Speaker 1: It's a pretty big thing to point out. Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: was a great quote from one of the people in

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Speaker 1: the documentary. It said, they left his students, came back

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Speaker 1: that they had brought back with them, because if everything

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Speaker 1: had gone the way of Lewis and Clark, it would

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Speaker 1: Great Father, Like we said, we're gonna live in harmony,

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Speaker 1: and they believed him, and they believed themselves, you know.

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Speaker 1: They weren't like pulling one over on him. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: it's just sad that it went down a different way

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Speaker 1: from that point forward. Basically, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: There was one brief moment when it could have gone

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Speaker 1: in a different way. Yeah, and that was it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But Clark and Lewis also, I guess, kind of paved

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Speaker 1: the way for the idea of manifest destiny, although that

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Speaker 1: are always held up as this idea, and this is

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Speaker 1: time that America was destined to take up the area

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Speaker 1: and therefore anything that stood in our way should just

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Speaker 1: fall before us as we swept outward towards the Pacific

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Speaker 1: Ocean to and justifies the means. And Lewis and Clark

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Speaker 1: was like, look, they're they're an example of that. Clark

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Speaker 1: eventually died of natural causes. In most of the rest

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Speaker 1: of the party sort of just faded into history. Um,

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Speaker 1: Jean Baptiste, while yeah, he didn't. He became like, okay,

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Speaker 1: the court is not a courtis on the lady a quartier? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was prince with a German prince, with German prince

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Speaker 1: Prince Wilhelm. Okay, Um and uh, I think the oldest

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Speaker 1: Civil War and at the age of ninety volunteered to

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Speaker 1: took him up on under They're just like, we get it,

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Speaker 1: your legend, but we got this, so who knows. So

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Speaker 1: that's the Lewis and Clark expedition. The core of discoveries.

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Speaker 1: The dog lived the baby lived. Yeah, the dog made

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Speaker 1: it all the way. They only lost one person on

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Speaker 1: the entire trip, Charles Floyd, and he died early on

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Speaker 1: of what they believe was probably a pendicitist first dependix.

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Speaker 1: And Uh, it's pretty amazing. They didn't have to eat

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Speaker 1: each other. They didn't even eat the guy who died

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Speaker 1: of the first dependix. No, just dog and horse. Uh.

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Speaker 1: If you you got anything else, No. If you want

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Speaker 1: from Jasper in Amsterdam, one of my favorite cities. Nice.

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