1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: I'mna just about that action also all right, here we go. 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 3: Throwing in, so we're sitting up to cash touch time. 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: We see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: go to wind. That's incredible, big bank, small bank. 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 3: I like to make money. All right. 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: This is the ultimate combine. 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: If you want to pass and we are underway. All right, folks, 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: welcome in. This is the Sunday Night recap episode for 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: week eight in the National Football League. Here in the 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: Action Network podcast. 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: Wherever you're listening, where you get your podcasts, and those 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 4: of you watching live on the Action Network YouTube channel, 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 4: please subscribe to our channel. 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: Please like the video, comment hang out with us. We 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: appreciate you being here. My name is Brendan Glasheen. 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: I am joined by Brandon Anderson, one of our NFL 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 4: contributors NFL betters at Action Network. Evan Abrams is our 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 4: director of Research and Media. He joins as well. Even 20 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 4: with you all season long, and this is the crew 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 4: all here. 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: So have you been with us? Thank you? If not, welcome. 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: A lot to get. 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 4: To We got to be super quick with some of 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 4: these snoozers that are later on in the show. 26 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: But as we normally do. 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 4: We'll start with some of the games, the marquee games 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 4: of the day, and like we always do, Brandon, we'll 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 4: start right away with Sunday Night. 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: I'll turn to Evan first though. 31 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: On Sunday Night Dallas and San Francisco, the Niners bounce 32 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 4: back after brock Purty looked awful three interceptions against the Chiefs. 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: He leads the Niners to victory thirty twenty four. San 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 4: Francisco covers the six, push the six, got the five 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: and a half right, got the six right before kickoff. 36 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: Total goes over forty seven and a half. 37 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: Your thoughts, H, yeah, close about that area it was. 38 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: You know, obviously with that last possession for dak one 39 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 3: way or the other, the cover was in question. Everything 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: was kind of in the balance there. The game had 41 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: already gone over the total. Haven't looked it up, but 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: I know primetime overs have been a big thing this year, 43 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: so you get another over tonight. And I believe this 44 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: was a very rare over on Sunday Night football, as 45 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: that was kind of the one outlier this year. So 46 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: that was one thing. Looking inside the game, honestly, the 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: box score, if I feel like it was like a 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: three quarter game and then a final quarter game, because 49 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 3: like those last quarter really made the game more look 50 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 3: more even especially in some of the DAK categories and 51 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: the yardage stuff. But even though I'm looking right now, 52 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: yards per play seven point three for the forty nine ers, 53 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: four point nine for Dallas, that feels like most of 54 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 3: the game. Honestly, this entire season DAK and the Dallas 55 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 3: offense has looked completely different. Twenty second success rate, twenty 56 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: third EPA per pass, and they were fourth the previous 57 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: three seasons. I mean, see, Lamb had an incredible night, 58 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: but it was his first one hundred yard game in 59 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 3: the season, me at eight last year. Uh So, I 60 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: just think the game is more about the ineptitude from Dallas, 61 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: even with the good let's call it good last half 62 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 3: of the fourth quarter. In terms of DAK, a few stats, 63 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: uh two ten ATS is an underdog last twelve starts, 64 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: He's four and twelve ATS as a dog since the 65 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 3: beginning of twenty twenty. Only quarterbacks worst, Bryce Young, Justin 66 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 3: Field and Mac Jones. Feels like it's a bad list 67 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: when it's DAK, Bryce Field and Mac so not great. 68 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: And then you look at Dallas coming up Atlanta, Philly, Houston, 69 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: Washington not easy. So not a great loss on the 70 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: Dallas side, and then quickly on San Francisco. I'll just 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: say this almost rushed for two hundred yards. I believe 72 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: almost two hundred, oh got way over at the end 73 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: there to twenty three on the ground, two touchdowns. Dallas 74 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: has allowed twelve rushing touchdowns this year, second most of 75 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: the NFL. Be fine, ahead of only Carolina when you're 76 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: on whenever you're on the list with Carolina never good 77 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: and their last in EPA per play on rush last 78 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: success rate just awful. One interesting thing which I will 79 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: note you can even use as like a big stat 80 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: this week, but with a buy coming up, which is 81 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: what San Francisco now rolls into, teams are sixty percent 82 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: straight up fifty eight percent against the spread since twenty nineteen, 83 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: so teams tend to play well looking forward as well. 84 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: Bill, he could DVR a game of Dallas on Sunday 85 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: night and just the cutaways. 86 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: To McCarthy and dak and it's just it's the same. 87 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 3: And I would have said, I would have exactly agreed 88 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: with you if they had not beaten Pittsburgh, which they. 89 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: Should hit that's fair. Yeah, they did beat Pittsburgh, says. 90 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 3: The narrative would have been much better tonight had they 91 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: have not come alive in the end of there. 92 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: Well, at least it's when it's McCarthy or Prescott against 93 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: a worthy counterpart offensively, so. 94 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: Brandon Pittsburgh one's a little different too, Like they really 95 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: outplayed Pittsburgh all that game, as they're the better team 96 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: than Pittsburgh and should have and should have been well ahead. 97 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: But they Dallas, so they needed we'll come back at 98 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: the end, but they really should have won comfortably. This 99 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: to me was more less Dallas Pittsburgh, more Dallas Baltimore, 100 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: where it was like I think twenty eight to three 101 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: or twenty eight to six, and then we got a 102 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: cute little comeback for the Cowboys that made it look 103 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 2: real close near the end. Was like, I mean, I guess, 104 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: I guess you technically had a chance here. They certainly 105 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: had a chance tonight, I think more than against Baltimore. 106 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: But I don't know, e've been like the cdee Lamb 107 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: breakout felt a little bit more like you're just nothing 108 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: to cover of cdee Lamb for these two drives. Huh, 109 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: that's a choice that you could make San fran and 110 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: then they started covering again. I was like, Okay, he 111 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: just went like four and out and that's that so right. Yeah, 112 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: I felt like a lot of Dallas games to Lucien. 113 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 4: Okay, too much, Dallas, pay too much Dallas. Brandon Anderson 114 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: later on will have the hot read coming up. He'll 115 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: also have what picks for on Monday Night football between 116 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 4: the Giants and the Steelers Baltimore Cleveland. 117 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: This is the chance. 118 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 4: This is really Brandon's opportunity to shake his tail about 119 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 4: Lamar and Jackson losing now to the Raiders and to 120 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: the Browns. Jameis Winston quoted eminem and led the Browns 121 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 4: to victory twenty nine to twenty four. Cleveland covered as 122 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: an eight and a half point dog. Total goes over 123 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: forty four and a half. Mister Anderson, Yeah, this was 124 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 4: a fun one. 125 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: Fun one if you like to doubt Lamar Jackson, the 126 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: fun one if you're on the Browns. A lot of 127 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: sharps this week were on the Browns. Not all places 128 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: took the Browns as a plus three to fifty money 129 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: line like we did. I feel like we nailed this 130 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 2: cap with Jameis Winston with Ken Dorsey, with the offense 131 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: just looking totally different. It looked like the Joe flack 132 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: of offense that we saw near the end of last season, 133 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: which felt like yolo ball, just putting it up there 134 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: for receiving guys. The receivers on this team, like Deshaun Watson, 135 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: should be sued for malpractice after this because we got 136 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: Brown receiving games seven for ninety nine yards. Cedrick Tillman 137 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: looks like the go to guy now two touchdowns eight 138 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: forty five, five for seventy nine, five for sixty one 139 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: all in one game. Pick one of those lines and 140 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: it would have been like a nice game to have 141 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: under de Shaun Watson. That's just Hey, look, we traded 142 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 2: away Amari Cooper and we still just have dudes that 143 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: can catch the ball when an actual quarterback is running 144 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,559 Speaker 2: the offense. Jamis has three hundred and thirty four yards 145 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: three touchdowns. He now has more three hundred yard games 146 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: as a Cleveland Brown than Deshaun Watson. That's one to 147 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: zero for his career. So thanks for coming out to Sean. 148 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: Wow. 149 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, just the offense looked totally different and this is 150 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: the first time all season the Browns have scored twenty points, 151 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: so we got there that the crowd went crazy when 152 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: we got there. This is now in this rivalry, six 153 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: of the last eight that have finished within six points 154 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: in either direction. So these games just tend to stay close. 155 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: Keep that in mind for when they play in the future. Again, 156 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: Baltimore just got away from Derrick Henry only eleven carries 157 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: in this game, and it just they continue to do 158 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: that in some of these games. Doesn't make a lot 159 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: of sense to me. And I don't know, is that 160 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: a team identity thing or is it that that's the 161 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: thing that they're trying the defense they're trying to avoid 162 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: and saying, go ahead, Lamar Jackson, see if you can 163 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: beat us doing the passing thing. We don't want Derek 164 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: Henry running all over us. I don't know schematically, but 165 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: on third down that's where this game was won. The 166 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: Browns were eight to fifteen on third downs, the Ravens 167 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: were two of ten. They could not convert, could not 168 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: stand on the field and keeps things going. Now, to 169 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: be fair, Baltimore missed a field goal justin Tucker another 170 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: fifty yard mess. Cal Hamilton dropped the easiest interception we'll 171 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: ever have in his career. On the final drive, they 172 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 2: would have won the game. And if I'm being totally honest, 173 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: the Lamar guy I know two plays down the game. 174 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: Lamar scrambles around for like four hours and I'm just 175 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: waiting for the ball to fall into the arms of someone. 176 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: And the Ravens get the comeback and there's the MVP 177 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: doing the thing again. Didn't happen. Sometimes when you leave 178 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: these games up for grabs, the other team puts them away. 179 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 2: We are now at four the season I did tweet 180 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: us out plus two fifty or longer money line underdogs 181 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: are nine and eleven straight up on the season. That 182 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 2: is a wild stat Bet the money line on those teams, 183 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: like in this game, seventy eight percent ROI on your 184 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 2: money line investment on the season. We now have in 185 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: bet labs. This closed at plus two eighty five. We 186 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: bet at plus three to fifty. There are only five 187 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: losses this season out plus two eighty five or longer 188 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: or five wins by underdogs. The Ravens are responsible for 189 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: two of those, and they led in the fourth quarter 190 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: of both of them. This is a thing for the Ravens. 191 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: This is a thing that they do. They lose these 192 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: games that they shouldn't be losing. They lose these games 193 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: that they're leading late. I know this is a little different. 194 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: They came back and took the lead, then gave back 195 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: up the lead. The defense was not up to par here, 196 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: nobody is up to par. You can't be losing near 197 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: double dig your favorites as they were earlier in the week. 198 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: We talked about this one. They're five and three now, Like, 199 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: this is a team that we talk about as the 200 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: class of the AFC, but there are three games behind 201 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: the class of the AFC and the team that they're 202 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: gonna always be compared to until they actually beat them. 203 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. The Browns look good. The Ravens gave 204 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: this on a LII. Yeah. 205 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: You mentioned the Browns win total in Best Bets on 206 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: Thursday into Friday morning. We did the Friday morning release 207 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 4: looking at the Browns win total over three and a 208 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 4: half live. 209 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: That's big for you there too. 210 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 4: Okay, Chicago Washington speaking of a quarterback running around for 211 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 4: four hours and they're making a heave and finding Noah 212 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: Brown after a tipball. A whole lot to unpack there 213 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 4: in that final minute, Tyreek Stevenson did end up going 214 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: to Twitter and apologizing to all of Chicago. He said, 215 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 4: to Chicago and teammates, my apologies for my lack of 216 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 4: awareness and focus. The gamemate over until zero's hit the clock. 217 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 4: Can't take anything for granted. Notes taken, improvement will happen. 218 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 4: It's talking smack. That angle from the fan is just fantastic. 219 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 4: They actually gave him some credit on the Sunday. 220 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: Night broadcast and they were talking about it at halftime. 221 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: But the hail Mary for Jade and Daniels against Caleb Williams. 222 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: The number two pick beats the number. 223 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 4: One pick eighteen fifteen Washington minus one and a half. 224 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: If our friends Chad and Simon the favorites. 225 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: Poe was live and Chad was already declaring victory. 226 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: Simon was stone cold silent, and Chad put his hands 227 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: in his face. 228 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 4: Worth your time, if you want to go look at 229 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 4: the clip, I'm pretty sure it's out there somewhere. 230 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, Evan, what do we got here on this game? 231 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 1: What do we pick apart here? 232 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 3: I'll try to do this as quickly as possible since 233 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 3: there really is so much to talk about, but I 234 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 3: will say this. I was on that Favorites call as 235 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: we're doing that podcast live, and unfortunately Chad's feed is 236 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: actually more delayed than everyone else is on the call, 237 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: so I went least sitting there on mute knowing what 238 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: happens listening to him talk about Jayden Daniels in the backfield. 239 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: So I we all felt very bad and it came 240 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: across on the call. But moving forward, I think it's 241 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: worth talking about this game just from one perspective and 242 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 3: then the Hail Mary at the end, because Caleb Williams 243 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: didn't deserve to win the game. He literally had a 244 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: absolutely terrible game, and that's really taking away the fact 245 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: he had two game winning drives basically to win this 246 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: one and didn't. But minus ten point sixtypa, he was 247 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: ten of twenty four for one hundred and thirty one 248 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: passing yards with a little rush. But then you look 249 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 3: on the other side, Jane Daniels was a plus ninety 250 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 3: PA twenty one to thirty eight, three to twenty six 251 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: a touchdown, also some rush eight to fifty two on 252 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: the ground. They both had the exact same a dot 253 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: almost and that's after Jane Daniels threw the ball seventy 254 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: yards downfield to win the game. I just one thing overall, 255 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: like we see week to week, just a difference of 256 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: the quarterbacks. This is Caleb's third game in seven starts 257 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: with a passer rating of sixty or below. Only him 258 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: and Zach Wilson top ten picks have done that since 259 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. It's not a great list. He's gone back 260 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: and forth, but I just think it's super clear that 261 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels looks better week to week, more composed. Now, 262 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: the other layer of this is just ebra Flu's made 263 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: some mistakes, I would say, I mean the formations on 264 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 3: the Hail Mary, the allowing the chunk yards before the 265 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: hail Mary, like you know, the the you know, giving 266 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: it to the offensive lineman and trying to make them 267 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 3: look like the fridge. All sorts of different things could 268 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: have gone one way of the other here. So that's 269 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 3: one thing looking forward for Chicago. Just a tiny bit 270 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 3: hardest remaining strength of schedule of any team, sixty three 271 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: percent their opponents. All six division games remain for Chicago. 272 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: Plus they're at Arizona next week, which coming off this 273 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 3: game not the easiest. Then you also still have Seattle 274 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 3: and at San Francisco crazy crazy crazy nonetheless, and I 275 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: will say this, I'll talk about a stat moving forward 276 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: a little little bit. So I looked this up. Last 277 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: touch last second touchdown with no time left, down six 278 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 3: points or less. The last time we saw that was 279 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: Derek Carr and Michael Crabtree for the Raiders in twenty seventeen. 280 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: It's only the sixth time we've seen that type of 281 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: touchdown since two thousand. Those teams. Those previous teams went 282 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: one and four the next week. So I do think 283 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: from Washington's point of view, possibly a little emotional, maybe 284 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 3: an interesting Giants play, even though no one I know 285 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: wants to bet the Giants. But that's that's probably the 286 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: analysis here. The other thing is, please just google it. 287 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: But you've got the Washington rule as well in this 288 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: one with a little of an election spin to it. 289 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: You can Brandon can talk about that a little bit. 290 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: But a lot of circumstances dealt with on this Hail 291 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: Mary Tyrek Stevenson. The taunt to the tip is what 292 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: I probably would call this, but just a terrible set 293 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: of circumstances. Sorry for him. 294 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, the the Washington rule, just to put out there, 295 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: you go ahead processes. How are you like to since 296 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: Washington moved since since the now commanders moved to Washington 297 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: before the nineteen forty election in nineteen of twenty one 298 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: American elections since then, the result of the last Washing 299 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: home game, that's this one before the election, determined the 300 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: outcome of the election quote unquote of course when and 301 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: the incumbent stays lose and the opposition wins. So maybe 302 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: you've got your name for my name for it is 303 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: the Kamala Hale Mary. Maybe that's what we came about. 304 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: It is what about the Harris Hill Mary, since you've 305 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: got the owner and the last name of the. 306 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not bad. I don't mind that. So you know, 307 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: you can look it up. You can look at Wikipedia, 308 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: like the nineteen forty to two thousand, it held every 309 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: year and then the results been pretty fuzzy since then, 310 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: and you know it's obviously correlation causation. Like it's it's 311 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: all very goofy and fun. But we've got an article 312 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: up talking about it. Chicago. By the way, all those 313 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: twas you listed off every single one of them that 314 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: they faced the rest of the season as five hundred 315 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: or better. It's October You've got a lot of games 316 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: left against every team five hundred or better, which the 317 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: Bears are too. It's a tough schedule coming up, Washington schedule. 318 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: Not a real not a real peach either, So this 319 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: was fun. I gotta think I thought Jane Daniels was 320 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: pretty clearly ahead Rookie of the year. Anyways. I thought 321 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: this was a chance for Caleb to maybe flip the 322 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: narrative in his favor. I gotta feel like it's gonna 323 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: really take something like this. May have been the nail 324 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: on the coffin. 325 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: There, Hunt, Tip Trump, those all work too. 326 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: Moving on Indy here, I mean, yeah, and I had 327 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: I had the Bears too, So I'm ready to move on. 328 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 4: Like Chad, Indy, Indy and Houston. The Colts were play 329 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: for a lot of folks at action. They got there 330 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 4: plus five. Texans did win the game outright, twenty three 331 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 4: to twenty. Just another slog here really for the Texans, 332 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 4: but they come out victorious. 333 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: The total goes under forty five. 334 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 2: Brandon, Yeah, the Texans continue to win and continue to 335 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: not cover. That is the thing that they've done this season. Look, 336 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: they're now six and two. I can think they're fraudulent 337 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 2: all I want, but they are up two games on 338 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: the Colts in the division. That's really three games because 339 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: they've swept them already and it's not like Tennessee or 340 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 2: Jacksonville is coming. So it doesn't really matter what's happening 341 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: if you actually get the win. At the end of 342 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 2: the day, Stefan Diggs left with a non contact injury 343 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: fear of an ACL tear. Not great for Houston. That 344 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: was the big move everyone loved. Offensively, Nico Collins has 345 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: already hurt, so we're getting short on receivers. But I mean, 346 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 2: to me, this story just has to be Anthony Richardson. 347 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: He just, man, I don't even know. I'm low on 348 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: words for how bad he was. First half, he throws 349 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: a sixty nine yard touchdown the Josh downs. That's good. 350 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: Here's the stat line for the rest of Richardson at halftime, 351 00:17:55,280 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: one of fourteen passing for twelve yards, including on third 352 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: down on his own twelve. With twenty three seconds till halftime, 353 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: throws an insanely horrible interception that set the Texans up 354 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: for touchdown the very next play, which're again. They won 355 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: by three. You can't just give the team seven points there. 356 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: That's on coaching too, like why are you even passing 357 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: with your young quarterback that can't pass the ball normal? 358 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 2: He finishes Richardson ten of thirty two passing on the day, 359 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: just an insane number. That's like thirty percent completion percentage 360 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: one hundred and six yards outside of that one long throw. 361 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: He got benched briefly in the third quarter for Joe. 362 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: Flacco asked him about it after the game, and he 363 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 2: said he was tired from running so much. What he 364 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: gets a hail mary on the final play, which talked 365 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: about the hail mary. He got a hail mary chance. 366 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: Can't even get a pass off, can't even throw the 367 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: ball on a hail mary. Like we talked about the 368 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: guys scrambling around for four hours. He scrambled for like 369 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: three seconds, and I was like, all right, I'm sack 370 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: game over finishes with just under sixteen average depth of 371 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: target yards that is the ninety ninth percentile, with the 372 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: minus twenty five completion percentage over expectation, which is the 373 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: first percentile. This is just like I don't know how 374 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 2: to play quarterback, so I'm just gonna run backwards and 375 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 2: yell five hundred and just shuck it down field every 376 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 2: time and hope to God someone on my team can 377 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 2: catch it. The Colts are two and three in Richardson 378 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: games now. In the two wins, he has no touchdowns 379 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 2: running or passing, two interceptions. Two of the losses are 380 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: to the Texans by two and three points. You're the 381 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: Colts other than the quarterbacks, you're gonna be like revolting 382 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: in the locker room. Joe Flacco is right there. You're 383 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: telling me you can't win by two or three points 384 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 2: these games that are right there. You could be leading 385 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: the division. I don't know what you do about this. 386 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, the book is not written. He's only, you know, 387 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 2: like a rookie basically still. But he is a very 388 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: very bad rookie at this point. And I don't know 389 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: what you do about it. 390 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: If you're the Colts, win totals in the balance, I 391 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 4: mean the Texans nine and a half was a preseason 392 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 4: win total. Their next three at Jets, which is Thursday 393 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 4: night more prime time Jets and Lions home, and then 394 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 4: at Dallas. 395 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: That's where they. 396 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: Coming inpleting forty four point four percent of passes this season. 397 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: A surprising about that is that seems a little high 398 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: to me for the. 399 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: Only people that have even thrown a pass. It's only 400 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 3: Drew lock Lower at the moment. 401 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Texans are six to two, Colts are 402 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 4: four and four folks. 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You 425 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 4: gave it out at three and a half, ends up 426 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 4: closing around five five and a half. 427 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: Maybe it closed at three. I don't remember what the 428 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: I don't know what the number closed at. 429 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember where it closed. I think it did 430 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: certainly moved toward Miami. The hope was that perhaps Tuo 431 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: would miss this one, and we didn't get that. It 432 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: closed that five. We got to cover anyways, And honestly 433 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 2: that was part of the cap is that I knew 434 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: I was going to probably still like the ears on 435 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: the side even if it was Tu and part of 436 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: what we saw he was good, but not great. This 437 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: is not the Miami offense that we saw last year. 438 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: This is a timing thing, and especially on early downs, 439 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: they're fine compared to what they've been and the rest 440 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: of the year they were miles better. They still weren't Miami, though. 441 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: Last year is Miami against this Arizona defense could have 442 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: put up like fifty points. That's just not what they 443 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: did today. In fact, they were eleven of fifteen the 444 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 2: Dolphins were on third down. That's really good. Just to 445 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 2: get to the twenty seven. That kind of shows you 446 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: on the early downs, the more reliable downs, how mid 447 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: they effectively were. So Cardinals now lead the division four 448 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: and four. They might be along with Washington. You know, 449 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: we talked about this before. This is the opposite of 450 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: a victory lap. I wanted Cardinals Island. We talked about 451 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: it back in like March and April that wanted to 452 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 2: get there and I couldn't do it. And here they 453 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: are maybe the worst first team this year along with Washington. 454 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: One prop note for you with to a back, Devin 455 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: h Chan has been so much better with Tua. He 456 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: almost had one hundred yards rushing again, but more importantly 457 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 2: six catches fifty yards his other games with two of 458 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: this year seven for seventy nine, seven for seventy six 459 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: as a receiver. That's been a big new weapon for them. 460 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 2: In the games without Tua, twelve catches forty nine yards combined. 461 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 2: So keep that in mind for props receptions and receiving 462 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: yards over Dolphins offense. I think they're fine. I think 463 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 2: this is like shake off the rust and get back going. 464 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: The problem is they're fine, but two and five. They 465 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 2: play at Buffalo next week. That's for the season. If 466 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: you get that one, which they've not been getting against 467 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: Buffalo lately. That's the game that Tua got hurt in 468 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: last time. If you win it, Rams, Raiders Patriots, all right, 469 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: those are winnable. Those are winnable defenses for that offense 470 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: to start hitting its steam. You can get back to 471 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: six and five, but you gotta win at Buffalo. You 472 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: can't go to two and six. Two and five might 473 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: already be a little too far. I don't know, Mimi. 474 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: Miami is teetering on the brink for me. They've got 475 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 2: a rough schedule coming up after that stretch. Cardinals are 476 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: four and four, and in that division. I believe Seattle 477 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: and San fran are also four and four. LA is 478 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: certainly looking better now than did a week ago as well. 479 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: That looks like the division to watch, But Arizona's surprise 480 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: leader at the midpoint. 481 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: Weather in Buffalo next Sunday. 482 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 4: It's way too early, but it looks like it's going 483 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 4: to be not too cold. I mean, hey, for two, 484 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 4: in the Dolphins sake, they're not playing this game in December, 485 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 4: which is has boded well with the cold weather with 486 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 4: the two of cold weather numbers. But low forty high 487 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: of fifty five looks like clouds next Sunday, which. 488 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: Could be helpful. 489 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, shake off the rust kind of game I think 490 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 4: for the Dolphins. But yeah, again they certainly should have had. 491 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 4: But the Cardinals get there. Buffalo at Seattle, that was 492 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 4: one of the prime four to thirty window games. That 493 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: was the Fox primetime game in Buffalo. This was just 494 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 4: right when the ball got snapped over Gino's head. I'm like, 495 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 4: oh boy, it all kind of went to hell for 496 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 4: the Seahawks. Bills thirty one Seahawks ten, Buffalo minus three 497 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 4: gets there, no problem, evan total goes under forty five 498 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 4: and a half. 499 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it probably could have been a completely different game 500 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: if they execute early. Maybe just a different scheme going forward, 501 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: because after that it just felt like everything went downhill. 502 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 3: But the entire game felt like it kind of pinned 503 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: on the run game. Buffalo thirty four to sixty four 504 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 3: to two touchdowns Seattle. I had to read this a 505 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: few times. They have seventeen carries for thirty two yards, 506 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 3: so literally could not move the ball. I saw some Charbonnet, 507 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: some walker just no matter what they did, didn't work 508 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: at all. Seattle's first seven possessions punt, punt, field goal, turnover, 509 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 3: on downs, half, interception, punt. It just at that point 510 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: you just can't stay in the game, even when Josh 511 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: Allen gives you his first interception of the year. I 512 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 3: will note just an interesting Geno number here. So he's 513 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 3: three and nine against the spread at home since the 514 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: start of last season, worse than the NFL. Only worse 515 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 3: is Sam Howell seven and one, who is his backup. 516 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: So that's not very good either. And you look at 517 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 3: that Geno at home this year, four touchdowns, six picks. 518 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: On the road, he's got four touchdowns and one interception, 519 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: and his road passer rating is sixteen points higher. So 520 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: it's just seems like he's a different guy when they 521 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 3: had their road and they just have done better. So 522 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: that's to me probably the Seattle side of the ball. 523 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: They're at home next week and they stay there against 524 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 3: a Rams team who is on extended rest off of Thursday, 525 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: so interesting matchup and definitely want to get around there 526 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 3: and look different at home. But we will see it. 527 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 3: And from Buffalo's point of view, I don't think I 528 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 3: learned much except for the fact, like Josh Allen continues 529 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 3: to blow out opponents in the majority of his games 530 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: fifty three of seventy four wins by seven points or more. 531 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 3: So that helps with those bigger spreads in a sense. 532 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: We talked about the interception, but I will say this 533 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 3: in terms of the schedule. So Buffalo is you talked 534 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: about that Miami game, Then they're at Indy and then 535 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 3: they play Kansas City before the bye Kansas City one today. 536 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: We'll talk about that in a little bit, probably not 537 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: as much to talk about, but at Vegas and they 538 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 3: play Tampa at home, then at home against Denver. So 539 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 3: you could be setting up maybe a nine to zero 540 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: versus seven and two game in week eleven, which is 541 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 3: really fun. 542 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: MARII Cooper. 543 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 4: One pitch here was excellent, And yeah, hey for Seattle, Brandon, 544 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 4: I mean, because you're high on Seattle this year, you 545 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 4: just kind of burn the tape and your next three 546 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 4: are against the division and then you hope. 547 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna get Metcalf. 548 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 4: Back next week or not with that mcl thing, but 549 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 4: maybe they wait for the buye and then they get 550 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 4: them for the. 551 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: San Francisco game. After they play. 552 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 4: They get the Rams, as haven't mentioned, but then they 553 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 4: they get the Niners on November seventeenth after a buy 554 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 4: So maybe that's the spot for Metcalf, or they try 555 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 4: to play him sooner rather than later because it's a 556 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 4: division game. 557 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: I'd probably like Seattle next week, to be honest with you. 558 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 3: It's only a minus one right now, obviously to wait 559 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: on Metcalf, but I think it's just a decent spot 560 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 3: after Rams looked. Is probably as good as you can 561 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: do beating a hard Minnesota team. 562 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 4: Right Metcalf for no Betcalf, though the run at the 563 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 4: run numbers, the run stats are not, you gotta still 564 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: run the balls that Rams deep. I think it's just 565 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 4: keeps getting better at that front with all those young picks. 566 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the next one. 567 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 4: Atlanta Tampa Falcons win thirty one twenty six. It was 568 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 4: a good start for the Bucks without Godwin without Evans, 569 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 4: but then Atlanta settles in. They cover the short number 570 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 4: one and a half, total goes over forty seven and 571 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: a half. 572 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: Brandon, Yeah, the Bucks honestly hung pretty well given that 573 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: they don't have any receivers left statistically pretty even outside 574 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: of three turnovers to none, and that's kind of what 575 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: did the difference here. That's the Baker Mayfield effect. Unfortunately, 576 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: it's going to give you the big plays, but it's 577 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: gonna come with some turnovers. My takeaway is that Kirk 578 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: Cousins would be the MVP if we just played the 579 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: Bucks every week. Four touchdowns two hudred and seventy six yards. 580 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: We just saw earlier this month. Four touchdowns five hundred 581 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: and nine yards in that Thursday night game. Kirk against 582 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: the Bucks pace for the season six six hundred and 583 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: seventy three yards and sixty eight passing touchdowns. So Kirk 584 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: Cousins against the Bucks is your MVP. Kyle Pitts at 585 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: his Leon Lett touchdown moment, if you remember that from 586 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: the nineties, he had the ball kind of just dragging 587 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: out behind him, stripped at the goal line. They called 588 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: a touchdown on the field. I think it probably stood 589 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: because of that. I don't think it was a touchdown. 590 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: It depends on the angle that you're looking at. It's 591 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: a touchdown in history. Now. So Atlanta five and three, 592 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: one game up on the box, but really two games 593 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: they've swept them. Now campus out of receivers. The Saints 594 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: and Panthers play next week, so I guess somebody has 595 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: to win. But those teams are deader than dead. I 596 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: think I wanted to fade the Texans and the Falcons 597 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: this year. I've been looking to fade them in the 598 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: division coming into the year and all throughout. I still 599 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: don't really believe in either team, but by default, at 600 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: this point, they've gotten the job done despite the circumstances, 601 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: and they are now both pretty clearly in the lead. 602 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: I think that it's the one division and the NFC 603 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: that's just well wrapped at this point. 604 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 4: Chiefs Raiders. So we talked about Lamar and then Jared. 605 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 4: We'll get to Jared Goff in the in the Lions soon. 606 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: But Jared Goff hit three touchdowns. We only threw eighty 607 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 4: five yards. I'm like, all right, here you go, Patrick Mahomes, Raiders. 608 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 4: Here's We talked about MVP on Tuesday, we did Brown Table. 609 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: And we mentioned it. 610 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 4: I think on last Sunday too, about MVP, and there's 611 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 4: an opportunity there, Evan, and it just it just they win. 612 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: The Chiefs win again. They're twenty seven to twenty. 613 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 4: It was sloppy Mahomes to another pick a couple touchdowns. 614 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: Raiders do cover. 615 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 4: The the nine points they get, their plus nine total 616 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 4: goes over. I just rinse and repeat with what we're 617 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 4: talking about with the Chiefs. 618 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 3: It seems stats don't look good enough to like change 619 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: the season numbers. But from a game to game perspective, 620 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: he played well plus twelve EPA. His a dot was 621 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: about a yard and a half to two points higher 622 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 3: than it has been on the season, about six plus 623 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: six completion percentage over expected. And even if you look downfield, 624 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: he was nine of fourteen ten plus yards and his 625 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 3: inner and his two touchdowns were just below that ten 626 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 3: yard mark with more a little more yack on it. 627 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: But it's just, you know, the case's thing. They were 628 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: twelve of sixteen on third down. You just can't beat 629 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 3: a team, even with Mahomes showing another interceptions twenty third 630 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 3: in the last two seasons. It just doesn't matter when 631 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: they just convert and their defense shows up every time. 632 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: I think they had five sacks. Just really difficult to 633 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 3: beat them. Part of their success has been the defenses, overall, 634 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: allowing twenty seven points now in twenty eight consecutive games, 635 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 3: longest for any streak since the two thousand and five 636 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: Ravens who did it in twenty nine straight and then honestly, 637 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: it just feels like Mahomes keeps doing this. So him 638 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 3: and Reid six win at Allegiance most of any combo. 639 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: Nobody else has even five wins. So you know, when 640 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 3: you talk about ownership of the division, teen and one 641 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: straight up on the road for Mahomes, and here's my 642 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: favorite one, so read twenty nine and six straight up 643 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 3: road neutral versus the AFC West twenty thirteen and now 644 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: twenty nine and six on the road versus his own division. 645 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 3: Mahomes are not just some crazy stats, and I think 646 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: people in terms of gambling on the Raiders felt good 647 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: about the end there. So Mahomes three at favorite of 648 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: three and a half for more twenty four thirty five 649 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: and two ats and is twenty twenty as least profitable 650 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 3: quarterback in the NFL in that spot. So wins the 651 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 3: games always figures it out. Chiefs defense comes through, doesn't 652 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 3: cover the number. Honestly feels like I put it that 653 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 3: in a blender every time we talk about them. 654 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 4: Davir Worthy had I know it's wasn't like the pizazz 655 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 4: or like an end a round or something. But he 656 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 4: had eight targets, like they really integrated him. I felt 657 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 4: he was actually running some real routes in their offense. 658 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 4: It wasn't just gadget stuff too, and he was looking 659 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 4: at it and Travis Kelsey scords. 660 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Kelsey scored. If you want to search right now, 661 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 3: just search Nation tight Ends Day on Twitter. The park 662 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: goes out there crazy. We just posted on an action network. 663 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 3: It was ten dollars to one hundred and eighty five grand, 664 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: So people had a day. 665 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 4: I was proud for like the first thirty five minutes 666 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 4: of this that we didn't even mention that, but you 667 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 4: just did. 668 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 3: I did tight Ends Day. 669 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: Hairs. I mean, tight Ends were actually really good today. 670 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: But like the HALLMARKUS holiday that football dudes ever made up. 671 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: Before, Yeah, you know, and it's whatever. 672 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 3: It's a lot of people made some money today, so 673 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: you can't. 674 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 4: Hey, they included George Kittle, who did score in the 675 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 4: game tonight. They did include Kittle in the Receiver doc 676 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 4: on Netflix, so they don't like forget about these guys. 677 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: That's fair. By the way, we're all on we're all 678 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: on team win money. From the bucks. So if National 679 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: tight Ends Day is winning us all money, we can 680 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 2: celebrate it. 681 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 4: By the way, Josh Allen is now your new MVP 682 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 4: favorite as of right now plus three twenty. Lamar Jackson 683 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 4: second at plus three to fifty, Maholmes plus four to fifty, 684 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 4: Jared Goff's number didn't move plus seven hundred, and Jayden 685 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 4: Daniels at plus nine hundred. 686 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 3: Is you at his MVP moment today? Maybe? 687 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, hard to ignore that for sure. 688 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 4: Okay, one more before we do our rapid fire ugly 689 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 4: round Brandon green Bay Jacksonville. The super escalator did not 690 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 4: get there, but Dobbs was the guy receiving. Wise, that 691 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 4: definitely happened. Green Bay does win, they come from behind. 692 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 4: It was a really off putting game. Doug Peterson postgame 693 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 4: really didn't want to give Trevor Lawrence any love whatsoever. 694 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 4: He credit the receivers, credit the blocking, but really didn't 695 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 4: want to touch Trevor Lawrence in his impact in that game. 696 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 4: Green Bay thirty, Jacksonville twenty seven. Jags do cover three 697 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 4: and a half and the total goes over for to nine. 698 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird one. Dobbs went over the forty 699 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: five yards we went. That was the basis of our escalator. 700 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: I think he was over that like halfway through the 701 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 2: first quarter. So we're feeling good, like two big plays downfield, 702 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: another one soon after that, then just nothing and Join 703 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 2: Love leaves hurt with a groin injury. We'll see what happens. 704 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 2: But apparently for the pack it means they win. Malik 705 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: Willis is basically now three and ozer Like. I know 706 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: he doesn't get credit for the win here, but Milik 707 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 2: will should get credit for the win. He led them 708 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 2: from behind late in the game. He led them ahead 709 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: and they went behind. But you get both parts there. 710 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur Coach of the year six and two three 711 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: wins now with Malik Willis, like, that's saving green Bay's season. 712 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: Up next for the Packers the Lions. So that's a 713 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 2: big one. They don't sound super concerned about Love right now. 714 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: The books disagree, and I've already moved the line off 715 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: of a lot what it was, so I think at 716 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 2: least kind of hedging on the weather level player or not. 717 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 2: So obviously that's the big story for that one. Green 718 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: Bay led by ten with six minutes left, Jacksonville got 719 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: back into it. Green Bay ended up getting the win. Anyways, 720 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: I think the Packers deserved to win here, so there 721 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 2: were two of six in the red zone. Otherwise, I 722 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: think they probably just can win more comfortably. Shouts to 723 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 2: Logan Cook, who you've never heard of before. Hunter for 724 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: the Jaguars has his feet inside his own ten. Hunt 725 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 2: of the he punts it out of bounce to the 726 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 2: one yard line across the field on the other side 727 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,959 Speaker 2: from inside his own ten. We got to mention something 728 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: like that on a show like this. Punter analytics out here. 729 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 2: Teams returning from London without a bye week have now 730 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: tied or trailed in the fourth quarter fifteen of seventeen games. 731 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: We're done with London for the year, but keep that 732 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 2: in mind for next year. That stat still holds up. 733 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, two straight weeks in London. They hung in there though, Jacksonville, 734 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: but they cover. 735 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 4: So if you if you bet the Jaguars to cover, 736 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 4: here you go and we'll keep an eye on the Green. 737 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: Yeah. 738 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 4: The Jordan love thing is alarm. And he threw another pick, right, 739 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 4: He threw a pick in the first half. 740 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, bad one, another bad one. 741 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 3: That life's plus four next week for green Bay, Right, 742 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 3: now against Detroit. 743 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 4: Okay, I mean it super quick on these with Philly Cincinnati, 744 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 4: even though I think Philly Cincinnati was actually a game 745 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 4: that was actually not as bad as we thought it 746 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 4: was going to be. Does go over forty seven and 747 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 4: a half? Philly wins thirty seven to seventeen. They were 748 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 4: a short dot. 749 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: Brandon, Yeah, still no first quarter points for the Eagles. 750 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: The under was my play here, feeling great, tell about 751 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 2: five minutes till halftime. Lane Johnson gets hurt. Turned out 752 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: he was fine. Turned out we got like a push 753 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 2: push right before halftime that I felt like was the 754 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 2: entire Eagles regime. If the Bengals have stopped them, they're 755 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 2: on their second try, the Bengal will stop them again. There, 756 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 2: I think like that's it for Philly. They didn't stop them. 757 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 2: They get the touchdown they coming after that touchdown touchdown 758 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: field little touchdown field goal. The Eagles offense is fixed. 759 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 2: Apparently the Bengals defense let them fix it. After all that, 760 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 2: the Eagles are five and two. We kind of feel 761 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 2: like we've written them off mostly and they're just suddenly 762 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 2: offense maybe clicking, looking pretty good. After all that, the 763 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 2: Bengals are three and five trouble in Cincinnati. 764 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that tush push would have been nice if they 765 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 4: did that against Cleveland at the first half few weeks ago, 766 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 4: right New Orleans and the Chargers just felt like a 767 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 4: big ten Michigan game. 768 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: This was like Michigan Iowa or something. 769 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 4: Six to eight Chargers, they cover seven and a half 770 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 4: Evan and the totals under forty one. 771 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 3: As quick as I can go here. The Chargers play 772 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 3: the same game every single week. They are six and 773 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 3: one to the under by eight point two points per game. Oh, 774 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 3: eighteen and six to the under since the started last year. 775 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 3: And I even looked it up with Harbaugh. Harball's last 776 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: three seasons in the NFL, He's twenty seven to fourteen 777 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 3: and one to the under with the Chargers and Niners. 778 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 3: You look at Herbert sixteen and four to the unders 779 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 3: to start a last year, He's sixteen and two to 780 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 3: the under in his last eighteen starts. It's just a 781 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 3: run game right now for the Chargers. Four point two 782 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 3: yards per attempt, the exact same number in the first 783 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 3: half and the second half when they are leading by 784 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 3: one possession, they are averaging five point two yards per attempt. 785 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 3: They are just running the ball, downs people down, people's throats. 786 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 3: It just doesn't matter, and it's keeping the game under 787 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 3: the total. Uh, the only thing that matters for the 788 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 3: Saints owing three straight up and against the spread with 789 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 3: a backup being outscored one ten to forty five. Derek 790 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 3: Carr is supposed to be maybe play next week and 791 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 3: they're in Carolina laying seven. So with that line, he 792 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 3: better be playing because I don't know how they could 793 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 3: be laying seven, but I guess it's Carolina. Moving on. 794 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 4: Detroit throttles Tennessee fifty two to fourteen. This one was 795 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 4: over very soon. I mean the Titans made it, I guess, 796 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 4: kind of interesting in the first half, but Detroit covers 797 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 4: the big number twelve and a half. Brandon total goes 798 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 4: well over the Lions. This team, they've got to be. 799 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 4: They're the favorite to come out of the NFC. 800 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: These guys. 801 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is that this score makes it 802 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 2: just like look like, oh yeah, Tennessee sucks. The Lions 803 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 2: are amazing. The Lions had more return yards than offensive 804 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 2: yards this game. They had a seventy yard run by 805 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 2: Jamior Gibbs and only one hundred and fifty five yards otherwise, 806 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 2: they had two hundred and sixty two kick return yards. 807 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 2: They had so many short field touchdowns in this game, 808 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 2: which you get credit for. Titans entered this game as 809 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 2: the worst special teams in the league. I promise you 810 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 2: that they left it as the worst special teams in 811 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 2: the league too. This was a special teams win. Try 812 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 2: and guess what. That's part of the game, too, your 813 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 2: Super Bowl contender, if you can win in all three 814 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 2: phases of the game. And that's the way they keep 815 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 2: doing that. 816 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 4: Carolina Denver, Sean Payton, he's got a hair across, as 817 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 4: you know what, because that guy's still running. 818 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: Trick plays and gadget plays late in. 819 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 4: The game and they're up, and they're they're beating the 820 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 4: crap out of Carolina. Twenty eight to fourteen. Denver, they 821 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 4: covered the big number. Total goes over forty and a half. 822 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 4: Evan Abrams. 823 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 3: Carolina just wasn't happy about it. I think they were 824 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 3: pissed off about him running up the score in postgame. 825 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 3: The honestly, the story of this line, the story of 826 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 3: the game to me is the line. So the look 827 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 3: ahead was Denver minus two and a half eight days ago. 828 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 3: It goes to four it's minus ten by the weekend, 829 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 3: it's minus eleven Sunday at noon. Sunday at noon, it 830 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 3: moves two points in the final hour, closes Denver minus thirteen. 831 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 3: Biggest favorite for Denver since twenty seventeen. And then it 832 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 3: just every move was the right move, the ten point 833 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 3: move or whatever it ends up being the correct move, 834 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 3: because it was seven to Carolina, and it felt like 835 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 3: Carolina was even just never in the game. Just some 836 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 3: crazy numbers on Carolina quickly tight twenty eighth consecutive game 837 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 3: as an underdog. They have been favored since week fifteen, 838 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, and even when they are favored, they've 839 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 3: lost nine consecutive games against the spread. The Bryce Young 840 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 3: number he's lost eleven straight now first half ats Carolina 841 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 3: is one in fourteen last fifteen first half ats. So 842 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 3: when you don't start good and you're up seven to 843 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 3: nothing and you still can't cover the first half line, 844 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 3: it is pretty terrible. From Denver's point of view, I 845 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 3: think it's pretty simple. Bone Nicks recently has looked better 846 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 3: thirteenth ePaper play fifteenth success rate weeks one through four. Now, 847 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 3: that's since week five, weeks one through four. He was 848 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 3: twenty seventh and twenty eighth. So I kind of think 849 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 3: that's exactly what's behind Denver success lately, is he's just 850 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 3: way more competent. The one Carolina stat just actually killed me, 851 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 3: and then I'm getting out of here. They've lost now 852 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 3: fifty six straight games when trailing by ten plus points 853 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 3: at any point. Their last one was in twenty eighteen, 854 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 3: so they can't start well, they can't come back. 855 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: Just doesn't matter that Denver team. 856 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 4: So twenty seventeen, their quarterbacks were Trevor Simeon, Brock Osweiler, 857 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 4: and Paxton Lynch. 858 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: When were they favored by two. 859 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 3: Touchdowns Simeon against the Giants. 860 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: And they lost by They lost by thirteen. 861 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 3: That's where we were in the NFL, where it was 862 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 3: Trevor Simeon was the last quarterback to close minus thirteen 863 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 3: for Denver. Before that, it was Peyton Manning. I was 864 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 3: you know, if it would have been Peyton Manning, you 865 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 3: would have heard me say it, but I didn't really, 866 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 3: you know, I feel like it was necessary. 867 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 4: They lost by thirteen. Holy cow, Eli Manning was the 868 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 4: quarterback in twenty seventeen. 869 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 1: Anyway, Little offended, Little Smallow. 870 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 4: That the Patriots got buried at the end of this 871 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 4: particular episode because they won. They beat the Jets as 872 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 4: seven point underdogs. Total goes over. Drake may runs in 873 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 4: the first touchdown and gets hurt concussion protocol. Brissett saves today, 874 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 4: they run the ball. Mayo calls him soft. They responded 875 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 4: and they beat the Jets. This is more about the Jets, 876 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 4: though the Jets kind of gave it to him. 877 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 2: Brandon, Yeah, the Jets are why this is the end 878 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 2: game here. We had to bury the Jets. The Patriots 879 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 2: just had to be unfortunately tied to them in the 880 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 2: game here. Greg zero Line missed an extra point and 881 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 2: a forty four yard field goal in a three point loss, 882 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,879 Speaker 2: so you can do the math on that one. 883 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 4: For the record, I was in Foxboro today. It was 884 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 4: a beautiful day. 885 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: So that Monday night game a few weeks ago with 886 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: the wind and it was a kind of a weird night. 887 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it was that. No, the exer lines is not. 888 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 3: And Mike Frances some new kickers guys. I think it's 889 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 3: about done. Greg. The leg might be toast. 890 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 1: And it's been a great year for kickers. 891 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 2: So anyway, going last year, he was all right last 892 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 2: year yes, he's greg the leg for a reason. It 893 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 2: was not so today that the whole thing with the Jets, 894 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 2: we keep saying all season is that the defense and 895 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 2: the special team they were supposed to be a quarterback 896 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 2: away and the defensive special teams have not been good enough. 897 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 2: So I think it is fitting as we finally completely 898 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 2: bury the Jets at two and six season over that 899 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 2: they lose a game with four points on special teams 900 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 2: just given away, and that the season effectively ends after 901 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 2: the offense drove down for a game leading touchdown, That 902 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 2: they end with the defense giving up a twelve play 903 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 2: seventy yard drive to Jacoby Brissett and Ramande Stevenson, and 904 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 2: on fourth down they just pushed the ball through get 905 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 2: into the end zone. That's That is the first time 906 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 2: in two hundred and twenty three games a team had 907 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 2: zero turnovers, gave up under two hundred and fifty yards 908 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 2: and still lost. The last time that happened was the 909 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 2: Fail Mary game back in twenty twelve, featuring Aaron Rodgers 910 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 2: losing that game two and from producer Tito. If you 911 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 2: add in one more thing, the last time a team 912 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 2: had zero turners gave up under two fifty yards and 913 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 2: scored twenty. It's been since nineteen forty that one of 914 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 2: those teams lost a game. They were seven hundred and 915 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 2: fifty six and oh before the Jets managed to lose 916 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 2: this one. The numbers say the Jets chinda lass, but 917 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 2: they did. That's what they just keep on doing. It's 918 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 2: the miracle the New York Jets. They're on three since 919 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 2: firing Bob Sala clearly not the problem. Twice his favorites. 920 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,240 Speaker 2: Get this whole stupid team out of here. 921 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I will, I will say this, aren't the Packers 922 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 3: want to know with Robert Sellino? 923 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, Raly, you know that would have been a story 924 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 2: if they give that game away late with him showing 925 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 2: up there. 926 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 4: Okay, we will get to Brandon's hot reads. He's got 927 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 4: two momentarily, but we'll do Monday Night football. 928 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: First, Giants visiting the Steelers. Just one game. 929 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 4: There's no ESPN Plus exclusive this week. It's Giants at Steelers. 930 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 4: Giants are getting six right now, the totals at thirty six. 931 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 1: And a half. I'll throw to Evan first. 932 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 4: Evan, any clear side or total that you're eyeing here 933 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:53,880 Speaker 4: or touchdown play? 934 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just like two props, and then I'll three 935 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 3: trends that everyone's gonna know walking into this one. I 936 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 3: liked single Terry unders. I just feel like they're just 937 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 3: going to other running backs, and he's kind of being 938 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 3: phased out a tiny bit. Under two and a half receptions, 939 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 3: he said, two total targets his last two games. Eleven 940 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 3: receptions on twelve targets this year, just something I feel 941 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 3: like is a decent number. And I like Van Jefferson 942 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 3: unders under two and a half receptions, also under twelve 943 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,319 Speaker 3: and a half longest reception. So those are the two 944 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 3: bets and then the props. I mean, the trends I 945 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 3: think people would look at here dating back to ninety two, 946 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 3: Steelers twenty one and one straight up at home in 947 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 3: Monday night football games, they just do not lose in 948 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 3: this spot. I think we've heard that before. They lost 949 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 3: Washington throwing loss in twenty twenty. The Giants Jets won 950 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 3: four and thirty two straight up now at night in 951 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 3: primetime games since twenty nineteen. Even with that, Jets win 952 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 3: over the Patriots earlier this year, and Daniel Jones one 953 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 3: in fifteen straight up at night. So those are all 954 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 3: the things kind of in the mix here all pointing 955 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 3: towards Pittsburgh. So doesn't mean something, probably not, but it's 956 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 3: gonna be a direction. Everyone's going to be kind of 957 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,280 Speaker 3: looking at. 958 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,439 Speaker 4: Brandon on the Best Bets Pot on Friday. You gave 959 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 4: out some angles here as it pertains to the part 960 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 4: of Cheez. I can't even talk the total excuse me 961 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 4: because I'm getting so excited to hear the mind shaft 962 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 4: once again. 963 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely on the under here. We've talked about this 964 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 2: on the look Ahead a week ago. We grabbed this 965 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 2: at thirty seven and a half. Still like it at 966 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 2: thirty six and a half, thirty six if you need it, 967 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 2: I'll still like it if it drops below there as well. 968 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 2: Giants games thirty nine or below all but one, Steelers 969 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 2: thirty seven at below four times already combined ten and 970 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 2: three to the under. Neither team has a lot of 971 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 2: chance to score. I don't know how it's going to happen. 972 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 2: The Giants have I think the worst offensive line in 973 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 2: the league now against all that Pittsburgh defensive talent, and 974 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 2: then on the other side you get an injured inside 975 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,879 Speaker 2: offensive line for the Steelers right now up against Dexter 976 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 2: Lawrence and the one strength that the Giants have with 977 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, who can't deal with inside pressure. So I 978 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,280 Speaker 2: don't know how this goes well scoring either way. Total 979 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 2: seven blow since Noumber twenty nineteen. You keep hearing me 980 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 2: with that stat thirty eight seventeen and a one to 981 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 2: the under sixty nine percent and then the mine shaft. 982 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 2: All of those fifty five games fifty six percent, more 983 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 2: than half of them finished at thirty points or blow. 984 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 2: So I take the under thirty and a half down 985 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 2: the mine shaft plus two to fifteen. Almost a quarter 986 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,399 Speaker 2: of those games with the total lis Low finished at 987 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,479 Speaker 2: twenty three or blow. So you want to go under 988 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 2: twenty three and a half, take the mind shaft all 989 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 2: the way down six to one on that one, and 990 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 2: then a little extra juice here for you if you 991 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 2: like it. I didn't even think about it because I've 992 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 2: been so on the under in this game. I think 993 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 2: it's a pretty good spot for the Giants if you 994 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 2: like a side. 995 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 3: Here. 996 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 2: A lot of trends that support Danny Dimes as a 997 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,760 Speaker 2: road dog, a lot of trends kind of fading teams 998 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 2: I just won big as small underdogs like Pittsburgh and 999 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 2: then last week Pittsburgh was kind of a raw ra 1000 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 2: spot after raw raw after Steelers win as win, after 1001 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 2: they cover as an underdog, and then our favorites of 1002 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,720 Speaker 2: three or more. After that, you're only forty one percent 1003 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 2: against the spread. So this is not This is kind 1004 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 2: of a letdown spot for Pittsburgh. Historically, with Tomlin, you 1005 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 2: think about You're like, oh, yeah, I can picture them 1006 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 2: playing an ugly one, and guess what if it goes 1007 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 2: under thirty, you're under twenty three. Six points is a 1008 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 2: lot to cover. Six points is a lot more valuable 1009 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 2: at that point. So I think if you agree with 1010 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 2: the mine shaft angle on the under and you like 1011 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 2: the Giants that way too, so I don't mind if 1012 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 2: you want to play that through and play them together 1013 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:30,320 Speaker 2: that way. 1014 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 1: And then you seem outraged about something you wanted to 1015 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:34,320 Speaker 1: say something. 1016 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 3: I just feel like you have to. Everyone needs to 1017 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 3: throw down at least five dollars on some sort of 1018 00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 3: special teams defensive touchdown in this game, because with both 1019 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 3: these quarterbacks, I'm at least going to put a five 1020 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,720 Speaker 3: dollars ticket on both defenses to score on a parlay 1021 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 3: or something like that. Because with Jones and Wilson. I 1022 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 3: just feel like we're especially both defenses are just really 1023 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 3: talented and Giants have a lot of sacks. Something weird. 1024 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 3: It's gonna happen, and. 1025 00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: I can't believe me. 1026 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 2: So if you can get, if you can it, I 1027 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 2: don't think i'll see a book posted. But over under 1028 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 2: one passing, over under half a passing attempt for Drew Lock, 1029 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 2: I take that over if we got a chance at 1030 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 2: at that's the Jones backup. 1031 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 4: You know, even that Cincinnati game that they played a 1032 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 4: few Sunday nights ago, primetime standalone game, they looked Okay, 1033 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't get how that line kept staying 1034 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 4: under three and why even the money line price dropped, 1035 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 4: Like I know, Cincinnati has been a great outfit, but 1036 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 4: that was without neighbors. 1037 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. I like day ball. 1038 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 4: This is also kind of for his his sanity right 1039 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 4: in his positioning. 1040 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 3: It's a very different defense with Cincinnati and Pittsburgh like 1041 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 3: they should, they should have a little bit of trouble, 1042 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 3: that's fairness, when that they didn't have before and they 1043 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 3: were only able to put up like WHATN. 1044 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 1: Remember seventeen to seven final? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, there 1045 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 1: you go. 1046 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 4: There's your Monday Night angles. And now for Brandon Anderson. 1047 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 4: Brandon Anderson's hot reads, he's got two for week nine. 1048 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 4: So the hot read here you try to find value 1049 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,399 Speaker 4: right now as it pertains to it's a numbers play. 1050 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: You like numbers. That's why we're getting this now before 1051 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: there's movement throughout the week. What do you got hot 1052 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,280 Speaker 1: raps O seventy on ice rights? 1053 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 3: Ice cream? How real soul? 1054 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:19,479 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1055 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 2: First pick, we're leading, Brandon leading, not burying. Leading with 1056 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 2: your Patriots under on the Patriots Patriots at Titans under 1057 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 2: thirty nine. Quarterback play here, Drake May, you mentioned in 1058 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 2: concussion protocol. Typically that makes you less likely to play 1059 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,359 Speaker 2: a week from now. Certainly with the franchise, I have 1060 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 2: to believe they're going to be very cautious, so I 1061 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,760 Speaker 2: think we get more likely Jacoby Brissett on Tennessee side. 1062 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 2: We don't know if Will Levis is ready yet, so 1063 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 2: I think more likely Mason and Rudolph in both cases. 1064 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 2: I think that makes each team more predictable, more vanilla offense, 1065 00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 2: less explosive offense, and less mistake pro everything better for 1066 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,839 Speaker 2: unders here. I don't want Will Levis or Drake May 1067 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 2: chucking the ball to the other team out there that 1068 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 2: gives short fields and easy points. Just give me Brissette 1069 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 2: and Rudolph boring me to death and hitting an under here. 1070 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 2: When Brissette starts, Patriots games have averaged under thirty three 1071 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 2: points a game, not them the whole game. When May starts, 1072 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 2: they're averaging over fifty two points a game, So that's 1073 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 2: nearly a twenty point swinging. They've just clearly been much 1074 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 2: more explosive that way. Titans defense been pretty good this year. Honestly, 1075 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,760 Speaker 2: I know they just gave up fifty two to Detroit, 1076 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 2: but we talked about that that was a special teams 1077 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 2: thing a lot more than the defense. The defense did 1078 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 2: mostly fine. They just played inside the red zone the 1079 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 2: entire game. Titans have now played Lions, Bills, Packers elite offenses. 1080 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 2: They average almost thirty nine points a game allowed, only 1081 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 2: twenty points a game allowed in every other opponent there 1082 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 2: So offenses Patriots fifteen and a half points a game, 1083 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 2: Titans seventeen or last all but one. I like the 1084 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 2: under thirty nine here. It's already dropping thirty eight, thirty 1085 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 2: seven and a half at some books. Thirty seven is 1086 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,399 Speaker 2: that last key number down. Get that thirty nine if 1087 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 2: you can, or just the best thing above a thirty seven. 1088 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 1: Okay, very good. 1089 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 4: I don't have much to I mean, it is kind 1090 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 4: of funny that Brissette had the game winning drive. If 1091 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,919 Speaker 4: he did that against Miami, we probably we don't see 1092 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 4: Drake may but so the Patriots have that at least 1093 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 4: to ride with then again. 1094 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 1: And also to help you. 1095 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 4: What was very annoying that the end of the first 1096 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 4: half they had a minute left and Mayo is not 1097 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 4: even going for points. He's just like he didn't punt 1098 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,399 Speaker 4: the ball, but they're punting on scoring any points went 1099 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 4: into the half. 1100 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: That's how I incompetent the offense still is. 1101 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 4: As much as it was cool to see them beat 1102 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 4: the Jets today, hot read number two. 1103 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,839 Speaker 2: Number two. This one's gonna be a aven. You're gonna 1104 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 2: like this one. I'm taking a Chargers under Chargers at 1105 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,879 Speaker 2: the Browns under forty one. These are ugly, but that's 1106 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,240 Speaker 2: all right. It's it's not pretty winning money. Sometimes Chargers 1107 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 2: just keep playing like nineteen fifties football. I don't need 1108 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 2: to watch it. I'll just cash it under. This line 1109 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 2: jumped from thirty nine this morning to forty one. Why well, 1110 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 2: I guess Browns. I guess because we watched the Browns 1111 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 2: put up some points on the Ravens. We talked about it. 1112 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 2: There's certainly more juice than the offense with Jamis, but 1113 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 2: I think to be fair, Jamis should have been picked 1114 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 2: a couple times in that game too, had some dropped interceptions. 1115 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 2: I think that's gonna even out over time. These are 1116 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,720 Speaker 2: still defense teams all day, every day, clevesand the defense 1117 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 2: plays a little better now that the offense is not 1118 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,520 Speaker 2: quite so terrible and the Chargers have had a game 1119 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,840 Speaker 2: at forty points all season. The Chargers are seven to 1120 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,919 Speaker 2: oh to this number on the under charge defense, allowing 1121 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 2: thirteen points a game. Brown's defense allowed twenty one or 1122 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,760 Speaker 2: less all but two games. Some of the underlying numbers 1123 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 2: hasn't been pretty there, but it's quietly been a little 1124 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 2: better lately. We know how good their defense was a 1125 00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 2: year ago. Teams are combined eleven and five to the 1126 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 2: under games that are in thirty nine to forty five range, 1127 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 2: in a total that dropped from the look ahead line. 1128 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,280 Speaker 2: This was a forty two on the season look ahead 1129 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 2: fifty five percent to the under. Jim Harbor totals below 1130 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 2: forty four or fifty nine percent to the under. That's 1131 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 2: kind of that Jim Harbor big ten, the thing that 1132 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 2: we talked about. And again, this line's going up. So 1133 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 2: I almost hesitated here, thinking like, is it really gonna 1134 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 2: rise a little more? Could we get a little better value? 1135 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 2: Forty and forty one are key numbers though, that's a 1136 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 2: really key range, forty to forty four, and we went 1137 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 2: up into that range. They gave us a couple of 1138 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 2: key numbers here, So I'm gonna take the under forty one. 1139 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 2: Chargers just gonna keep going under that. I don't want 1140 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 2: to watch it. I'm just happy to make some money 1141 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 2: off of it if they're gonna keep playing whatever sort 1142 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,399 Speaker 2: of football that they're doing. So that's the last one 1143 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 2: for today. 1144 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 4: Something tells me we're gonna be here again next week 1145 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 4: and the Chargers are hosting the Tennessee Titans, and we. 1146 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 1: Could be hearing the same thing. 1147 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 2: The hot hot read two weeks ahead. I like it, 1148 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 2: the hot read look ahead. There you go, perfect, Yeah, 1149 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 2: my hot red. 1150 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,279 Speaker 4: I got CLV by the way on the Cardinals and 1151 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 4: the Dolphins, but that didn't go well because you know, 1152 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,920 Speaker 4: the Dolphins actually look like an outfit that was respectable offensively, 1153 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 4: and the Cardinals score points. 1154 00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 1: So ohen Ones, I'm done with that. I'll leave it 1155 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 1: to you too. Brandon Anderson find his work, of course, 1156 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 1: in the app. 1157 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,760 Speaker 4: Follow him there for any futures that he may add. 1158 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 4: Also the picks, the hot reads, and best bets coming 1159 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 4: your way on Friday morning every week during the NFL season. 1160 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 4: Evan Abrams, our director of Research Media. You can also 1161 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 4: find his work in the app Actionnetwork dot com for 1162 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 4: write ups, primers, all that good stuff when it comes 1163 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 4: to the research, the news and notes. Okay, before we 1164 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 4: wrap up, let's hear from our friend Patrick Everson over 1165 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 4: at Vegas Insider for a market report. 1166 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,240 Speaker 1: How did Las Vegas fare today? 1167 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 5: All right, Brandon, thanks a lot for having me on 1168 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 5: the Action Network podcast. Once again, we are recapping NFL 1169 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 5: Week eight odds, how the betters did, how the odds 1170 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 5: makers did, and the last couple of weeks we've talked 1171 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 5: about this, the betting public masses have done pretty well 1172 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 5: against the book makers. The pendulum always tends to swing, 1173 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 5: and it certainly swung in the early games on Sunday 1174 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 5: in NFL Week eight odds, specifically as you all might 1175 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 5: have surmised already with the Browns beating the Ravens outright. 1176 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 5: At Betam Jam, for example, no team took more tickets 1177 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 5: on the point spread, no team took more money on 1178 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 5: the point spread than the Baltimore Ravens. So even though 1179 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 5: sharp play at Benham Jam and certainly had a lot 1180 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 5: of other books drove this number down as low as 1181 00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 5: seven and a half, even some sevens at some spots 1182 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 5: on the Ravens, from a high of eleven and a 1183 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 5: half on the Ravens. So it's definitely some significant to 1184 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 5: respected money coming in on Cleveland, and it was right. 1185 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 5: Even so, most books still needed the Browns in this game. 1186 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 5: BETEMGM was certainly among them. Several other odds makers weighed 1187 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 5: in with me and and said that they definitely needed 1188 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 5: the you know, the the Browns in this game to 1189 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 5: at least cover the number. I don't think they expected 1190 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 5: an outright win, but they got it, and because of 1191 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 5: it was of it being an outright win, one odds 1192 00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 5: maker one sportsbook noted that this was an eight figure 1193 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 5: swing by the Browns winning outright, an eight figure swing 1194 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 5: for this sportsbook nationwide, So a really really big, big 1195 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 5: swing there obviously multimillions of dollars going on here. Now 1196 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 5: that said, other games in the early window also helped 1197 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 5: out certainly. Obviously the Browns was huge, but the Jaguars 1198 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 5: covering against the Packers. The Packers were a very well 1199 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 5: played team, including, once again alluding to bet MGM, they 1200 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 5: were the number two bet team in tickets, the number 1201 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 5: two bet team in money, so they were certainly a 1202 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 5: reliability as well. The Patriots beating the Jets outright not 1203 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 5: necessarily a heavily bet game, but most of the action 1204 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 5: was on the New York Jets and the Patriots winning outright. 1205 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 5: Again in the early window, the Houston Texans against the 1206 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 5: Indianapolis Colts not a hugely bet game, again not at 1207 00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 5: the you know, not as high a profile as some 1208 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 5: of these other ones, but you had the Texans a 1209 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 5: home favorite, not covering, winning but not covering, just like 1210 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 5: the Packers did. So those were pretty good results behind 1211 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 5: the counter kind of set the table for the books 1212 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 5: to have a reasonably good day, a good bounce back week. 1213 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 1: Now, all that. 1214 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 5: Said, the Commanders Hail Mary kind of changed the change 1215 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,479 Speaker 5: the mood a little bit because the Commanders have become 1216 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 5: a public team this season. Once it was clear on 1217 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 5: Sunday that Jayden Daniels was going to play, the line 1218 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 5: shifted by two and a half three points and moved 1219 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 5: to the Commanders being a favorite again. The book you 1220 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 5: know some books ended up meeting the Bears again. Might 1221 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 5: have needed them anyway, just because Washington's become such a 1222 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 5: public team and then Washington wins and covers any number 1223 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 5: they might have been at that on the incredible Hail Mary. 1224 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 5: So that was one that where the public probably got 1225 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 5: a little bit back. Scott Shelton bet MGM, Nevada. He 1226 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 5: noted that they were having a great afternoon session, but 1227 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 5: were it not for that Hail Mary pass, it would 1228 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 5: have been really really great. They were on their way, 1229 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 5: but he said it was an incredibly exciting play, just 1230 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 5: not a good result for us. However, they did get 1231 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 5: a Raiders back door cover against the Chiefs, which which 1232 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 5: helped for sure. And again a couple of other odds 1233 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 5: makers mentioned that the you know, the Commanders getting that 1234 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 5: Hail Mary was not necessarily a good result for them. 1235 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 5: Back just a moment, just because I want to throw 1236 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 5: this out there from Circa Sports regarding that Browns win 1237 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 5: Circus Sports is known for taking sharp play. They took 1238 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 5: a ton of sharp money on the Browns, including what 1239 01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 5: Derek Stevens said was some six figure bets, were some 1240 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 5: six figure plays, so they actually needed Baltimore there. So 1241 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 5: Circa actually took a pretty decent beating on that with 1242 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 5: with Cleveland winning that game, but they were certainly the 1243 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 5: exception to the rule. And again skipping back ahead of 1244 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 5: that Commander's game, that was obviously a hugely important play, 1245 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 5: a hugely critical play, an amazing play, and it falls 1246 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 5: in favor of the public betters. But I think generally speaking, 1247 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 5: the sportsbooks will take the day they had, and if 1248 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 5: you want to just take a look ahead to the 1249 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 5: Monday night game, not the most exhilarating matchup the Giants 1250 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 5: against the Steelers, but looking at early numbers from BETAMGM 1251 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 5: as we head into Monday, you've got about four to 1252 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 5: one tickets and three to one money two and a 1253 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 5: half to one money on the Steelers on the spread. 1254 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 5: They're also willing, at least this is at BETAMGM nationally, 1255 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 5: and they're also willing to lay the Steelers on the 1256 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,919 Speaker 5: money line. Three to one tickets, four to one money 1257 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 5: on the Steelers money line willing to pay that minus 1258 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 5: price on Pittsburgh in the Monday night game, thinking that 1259 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 5: that team will keep it going under Russell Wilson. 1260 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: We shall see. 1261 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 5: So that is a wrap. 1262 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 2: Again. 1263 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 5: Probably maybe some give and take between the books and 1264 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 5: the betters, but generally speaking, I think the sportsbooks will 1265 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 5: take this Sunday in Liu and when the wake of 1266 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 5: what happened in weeks six and seven in the NFL. 1267 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 2: Thanks a lot. 1268 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 5: We'll talk next week. 1269 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 1: That's it. 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