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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Podcast is Friday. Everybody, get ready to jump into it

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Speaker 2: with Clay and Buck. Thanks for being here on The

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We have much to discuss.

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Speaker 2: For example, a Minnesota Democrat who once called for dismantling

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Speaker 2: police during b l M two point zero is violently

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Speaker 2: attacked and now has in Minneapolis Minneapolis area now has

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Speaker 2: a very different approach, it seems, to law enforcement and police.

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Speaker 2: This is yet another story we see that Democrats like

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Speaker 2: to say things about law enforcement until they have to

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Speaker 2: face the reality themselves of their incredibly irresponsible and reckless policies.

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Speaker 2: We shall discuss that. We've also got more here on

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Speaker 2: Eric Addam in New York City, Texas, Texas is slamming

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Speaker 2: the claim that Adams says that it's Texas's fault. Now

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Speaker 2: this is from Governor Rabbitt. Governor Abbitt's office that the

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Speaker 2: migrant crisis is so major in NYC. Will discuss that

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Speaker 2: an extinction rebellion protest last night at the US Open

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Speaker 2: tennis match in Queens, New York, which I was watching.

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Speaker 2: We will discuss this politics and sports crossing over. What

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Speaker 2: better place could you be in than right here on

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Speaker 2: this show? And I am caught the one time, Like

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Speaker 2: there's like a couple events a year I might watch

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Speaker 2: the sports for, and in this one, sure enough, politics

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Speaker 2: came about. We shall certainly discuss that. But I have

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Speaker 2: two other areas I want to dive into here with Clay. First,

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Speaker 2: in the world of what's going on in politics here

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Speaker 2: at home. We have some polling will get to about

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Speaker 2: Biden that I think is really interesting. And the culpability

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Speaker 2: that people feel for or that think that Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: has in the schemes involving Hunter. I think you would

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Speaker 2: have to You'd have to be willing to believe the

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Speaker 2: absurd to think that Joe Biden was not up on

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Speaker 2: and in some way directly benefiting from what Hunter Biden

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Speaker 2: was doing. Also, just think about this, Why would you

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Speaker 2: want someone in charge who's so reckless and so inept

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Speaker 2: that they wouldn't stop their crack addicts on from flying

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Speaker 2: all over the world making deals on your behalf like that.

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Speaker 2: That's not enough brand protection, if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that. But first, Clay, mister Clay Travis,

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Speaker 2: there's some news here. California Democrat Gavin Newsom, the Governor

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Speaker 2: of California, on Meet the Press, has said, I guess

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Speaker 2: this is a preview for the full interview on YEP,

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Speaker 2: it's their preview clip. But he has said that President

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Speaker 2: Biden is going to run. Do we have audio of this?

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Speaker 2: Do we have the audio clip? Everybody?

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Speaker 3: We have?

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Speaker 2: This is this is be still my heart, this is

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Speaker 2: this is painful. Play it, play it.

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Speaker 4: Filing deadlines haven't passed, President Biden doesn't run, why shouldn't

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Speaker 4: we consider you likely?

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Speaker 5: I think the vice president is naturally one lined up

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Speaker 5: and the finally deadlines are quickly coming to pass. And

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Speaker 5: I think we need to move past this notion that

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Speaker 5: he's not going to run. President Biden is going to run,

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Speaker 5: uh and looking forward to getting re elected. I think

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Speaker 5: there's been so much wallowing in the last few months

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Speaker 5: and hammering, even disrespect. But we're geary enough for the campaign.

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Speaker 5: We're looking forward to it, you know.

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Speaker 4: But you hear these calls privately, what do you tell

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Speaker 4: these donors who are wallowing?

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Speaker 5: Time to move on, Let's go.

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Speaker 4: And am I supposed to interpret that comment about the

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Speaker 4: vice president that if for some reason the President chose

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Speaker 4: not to run at this point that everybody rallies around her, and.

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Speaker 5: It's the Biden Harris administration.

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Speaker 2: It's maybe I'm over fashion.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe I'm a little old fashioned about president's advice.

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Speaker 5: I was a lieutenant governor, so I'm a little subjective.

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Speaker 2: All right, Clay, are you buying it? And are you

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Speaker 2: going to be buying me a steak at the rooftop

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Speaker 2: of the JW. Marriott in Nashville when Biden is in

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Speaker 2: fact the nominee. We can handle that one later, but first,

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Speaker 2: Gavin here, what do you think?

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Speaker 6: That's a great steakhouse, bourbon steak at the top, So

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Speaker 6: at least we're going to be going to a good denn.

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Speaker 2: I just buck.

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Speaker 6: I just keep looking at all of the data on Biden,

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Speaker 6: and this was such a bad week for him. With

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Speaker 2: They're saying the exact same story.

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Speaker 6: And I understand people can be skeptical of the polls,

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Speaker 6: but when basically seventy six percent of Americans say Biden

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Speaker 6: isn't mentally or physically capable.

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Speaker 2: To be the president of the United States.

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Speaker 6: Including huge majority of Democrats and Republicans and independence, Buck,

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Speaker 6: we can barely get anybody to agree on anything in

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Speaker 6: this country today. Everybody has finally become united behind Joe

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Speaker 2: He is too old for the job.

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Speaker 6: Whether you're a leftist, whether you're a rightist, whether you're

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Speaker 2: Arena, we all see this.

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Speaker 6: Whether you agree with me that Gavin Newsom is an

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Speaker 6: adroit and likable personality when he sits down for Sean Hannity,

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Speaker 6: and that he's glib and he's smooth, and I think

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Speaker 6: believe are going to be the determining factors in this

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty four election. Gavin Newsom knows all of this too,

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Speaker 6: So a part of me feels like this is when

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Speaker 6: you see someone who is about to lose their job,

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Speaker 6: you want that job. But the best way for you

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Speaker 6: to get that job is to pretend that you actually

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Speaker 6: think they're doing a good job. And that's what Gavin

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Speaker 6: Newsom seems to me to be saying in this Meet

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Speaker 6: the Press interview. I will say this, Buck, and I

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Speaker 6: don't have the data in front of me. I would

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Speaker 6: be curious. I don't know if you've read this or

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Speaker 6: you've seen it anywhere. I would like to know what

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Speaker 6: the filing deadlines are if you're going to run in

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Speaker 6: for these Democrat primaries, because we've been talking about when

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Speaker 6: sort of the drop dead date. Unfortunately, when you say

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Speaker 6: the drop dead date with Joe Biden, it has more

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Speaker 6: than one connotation. I hope he stays healthy, but the

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Speaker 6: drop dead date on when you have to get your

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Speaker 6: name in on those ballots is I think truly rapidly approaching.

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Speaker 6: So that will give us a good indication of whether

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Speaker 6: Biden really plans to run. And I'll just add this,

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Speaker 6: if Biden really liked Kamala Harris, do you.

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Speaker 2: Think he does? By the way, do you think Biden.

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Speaker 6: Actually likes Kamala Harris personally? I'm gonna tell you I

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Speaker 6: have never considered that until this moment, So you're I

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Speaker 6: need to mull it over a little bit. But mind,

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Speaker 6: my inclination is no. My inclination is he does not

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Speaker 2: At some level, remember Joe Biden, Yeah, he's he's a buffoon,

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Speaker 2: but he's president, which is crazy. But he's an egomaniac too, right,

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Speaker 2: he would have to be to be as lacking in

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Speaker 2: a slimy politician who does whatever their credit card companies

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Speaker 2: in any moment, or will be popular for him within

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Speaker 2: the party. Gavin News, I'm sorry Joe Biden. I think

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Speaker 2: I think he's still sore over the treatment he got

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Speaker 2: from Kamala on stage that time, because that was a

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Speaker 2: real legacy tarnishing moment. And I know a lot of

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Speaker 2: Democrats want to pretend like that didn't happen. But you know, Clay,

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Speaker 2: you know what this is like we see in politics

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Speaker 2: you can say a lot of things about other people

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Speaker 2: in your party and let bygones be bygones. But if

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Speaker 2: you set up on stage and call Joe Biden a racist,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know if Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: lets that one go. So I don't think he likes her.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he likes her.

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Speaker 6: I think that's right, and that's why I would say this.

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Speaker 6: I don't get the sense that Biden likes Kamala, I

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Speaker 6: think it's a political marriage, not a true reproachment where

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Speaker 6: they enjoy spending time with each other.

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes.

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Speaker 6: Presidents and vice presidents really do get along and they

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Speaker 6: make a good team. Other times I think it's it's

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Speaker 6: clearly a union of political necessity. So the point I

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Speaker 6: make with that is this, Gavin Newsom raises an interesting

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Speaker 6: question about the deadlines of these primaries and when they

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Speaker 6: would need to be fit in order to have an

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Speaker 6: actual contested primary. But if Biden doesn't drop out, and

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Speaker 6: when I say drop out, just announce that he's not

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Speaker 6: going to run in twenty twenty four, if he really

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Speaker 6: to run. Kamala Harris is the choice. She's the standard

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Speaker 6: bearer going forward, and there would be popular acclamation and

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Speaker 6: I don't think anybody would be able to oppose Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 6: I don't get the sense that that is the way

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden feels about Kamala Harris. So I feel like, still,

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Speaker 6: if he's not going to run, he doesn't want to

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Speaker 6: give her that gilded pathway where she is his deputy

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Speaker 6: So I think if Biden, and this is why he

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Speaker 6: keeps saying, if Biden is going to drop out, it

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Speaker 2: I think our friend Ryan Gerdusky on his substack did

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Speaker 2: and all the re if it was if you don't

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Speaker 2: it's not done by Christmas, it's not happening. And then

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Speaker 2: the only way you're gonna have something else would be

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Speaker 2: nat which would be I mean, it would be amazing television.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, that's a that's a total mess.

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Speaker 2: And I think increasingly, I mean Clay Fetterman one independence,

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Speaker 2: I think everyone needs to needs to remember this for

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Speaker 2: a second. You know, I understand it's a little bit

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Speaker 2: clouds on this stuff sometimes. But Fetterman one independent voters

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Speaker 2: have to ever knows right, which we just can't be again,

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Speaker 2: doesn't work. I mean, yes, profoundly unwell. If Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: You know, it's different when you're talking about a presider

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Speaker 2: And I just think that they're they're gonna end up

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Speaker 2: sticking with him because the machinery in place is to

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Speaker 2: defeat Trump at hold Trump as the great you know,

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Speaker 2: the great evil, the Satan that is going to destroy America.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think that they believe the candidate quality. Really,

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Speaker 2: I think it's hard to argue that when you're facing Trump,

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Speaker 2: the Democrats think candidate quality really matters when they had

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden in the first place. Now I understand the

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Speaker 2: counter to this argument is it was twenty twenty. It

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Speaker 2: rigging and all the Okay, fine, but I still don't

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Speaker 2: see how Democrats. I mean, let me ask you. Let's

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Speaker 2: get down to brass tacks. Here is Gavin Newsom basically

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Speaker 6: But he would have been infinitely better for everybody in

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Speaker 1: Learn and Last Weekdays with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Breaking news

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Speaker 6: just in the last forty five minutes or so, and

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Speaker 6: I can't believe this is real. Nancy Pelosi, who was

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Speaker 6: born in nineteen forty, which makes her right now?

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Speaker 2: Is that I'm trying to do the math. Eighty three

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Speaker 6: Eighty three year old Nancy Pelosi just announced that she

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Speaker 2: That would make her what eighty four at.

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Speaker 6: The point of reelection next year, and she would serve

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Speaker 6: this is crazy. She's no longer the Speaker of the House.

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Speaker 6: talking about, Buck. We've got a lot of people in

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Speaker 2: Reckless.

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Speaker 6: And it's not like Buck. She's in a district where

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Speaker 2: This is this is self obsession. Nancy Pelosi is of

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Speaker 2: Ryan Substack is the national populist newsletter. Ryan, can we

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I've been saying this forever that he had know

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Speaker 2: Hey, Ryan, what do you make of the polls? I mean,

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Speaker 7: Third. Now, Biden's in a very very bad place, much

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Speaker 7: Where his numbers have not collapsed significantly in states that

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Speaker 7: are overwhelmingly white and black Michigan, Pennsylvania, Virginia, New Hampshire,

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Speaker 7: states where ninety percent plus of the electric will either

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Speaker 7: be blacks or whites. That is where Biden's numbers have

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Speaker 7: not gone down pretty much at all. In California, for example,

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Speaker 7: which the Biden plus twenty nine state. The La Times

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Speaker 7: that have polled this week it was Biden plus twenty.

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Speaker 7: In New York, a Biden plus twenty three state. The

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Speaker 7: Siena poll from two weeks ago had Biden plus thirteen.

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Speaker 7: These are massive double digit losses in big blue states,

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Speaker 7: primarily because Hispanics and Asians have fled the Democratic Party

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Speaker 7: over issues like crime. Where we're not seeing it, these

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Speaker 7: numbers match at all in a change would be like

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Speaker 7: in Emerson it's New Hampshire it was Biden plus seven.

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Speaker 7: Michigan Epic poll Biden plus one, which was a Biden

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Speaker 7: plus one state. Franklin Marsh Pennsylvania Biden plus two. It

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Speaker 7: was a Biden plus one state. Virginia Biden plus nine.

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Speaker 7: It was a Biden plus ten state. In these states,

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Speaker 7: it is stagnant. When you look at the crossteps of

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Speaker 7: the C and N poll. Now they don't break it

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Speaker 7: down by race as far as like Hispanic or Asian go.

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Speaker 7: They say non white white. The non white numbers for

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Speaker 7: Biden have gone down significantly. It's D plus twenty six.

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Speaker 7: It should be like D plus forty b D plus

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Speaker 7: forty five. But where it is very strong for Biden

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Speaker 7: is among college educated whites against Trump D plus fourteen.

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Speaker 7: Where it is among very strong for Biden also is

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Speaker 7: among independents. It's D plus nine. These were the pole

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Speaker 7: These were the voters that helped elect John Fetterman in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 7: These are the voters that prevented Republicans from winning a

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Speaker 7: lot of congressional districts in suburban counties. So this poll

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Speaker 7: is very bad for Biden. He is not sitting comfortably

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Speaker 7: in any way, shape or form. Is this Should Republicans

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Speaker 7: sit back for the next year and a half and

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Speaker 7: say we got this in the egg. No, What could

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Speaker 7: very well happen is blue cities outside of New Work,

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Speaker 7: outside of New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago could see

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Speaker 7: could see voters once again continuing to move more Republican

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Speaker 7: in places like the Bronx, in places like Cicero, Illinois,

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Speaker 7: In places like Los Angeles and Beverly Hills, they'll continue

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Speaker 7: to move more Republican, but that won't matter as those

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Speaker 7: places are non competitive ultimately statewide.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is fascinating. I love when you kind

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Speaker 6: What would jump out to me about what you said

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Speaker 6: is first of all, obviously we don't know who officially

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Speaker 6: you would assess, you know, the Republican nominee in terms

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Speaker 6: of the likelihood of winning. And so Part one of

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Speaker 6: this is Nicky Haley, for instance, in that CNN poll

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Speaker 6: plus six, how would you assess Nicki Haley, Tim Scott,

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Speaker 6: Ron DeSantis, favek Ramaswami compared to Trump in the event

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Speaker 6: that Biden is going to be the nominee.

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Speaker 2: That's part one, But maybe I want.

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Speaker 6: To start with this part two with you, which is

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Speaker 6: what you just said, would suggest to me that there

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Speaker 6: may be a real opportunity for Republicans to win Nevada,

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Speaker 6: to win certainly Arizona, which both have substantial Hispanic communities,

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Speaker 6: given the fact that we're seeing Hispanic movement towards Trump.

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Speaker 6: Does it put New Mexico at all in play? Obviously

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Speaker 6: a lot of focus on the rust Belt, Georgia, New Hampshire,

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Speaker 6: But when you see the Southwest and you see Biden

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Speaker 6: losing some of that support outside of the traditional white

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Speaker 6: black window, Am I crazy? Or is the Southwest in

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Speaker 6: play for Republicans.

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Speaker 7: So let's tall with Nikki Haley for a second. The

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Speaker 7: reason that Haley was top plus six is because among

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Speaker 7: college educated white she was pop plus eight as opposed

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Speaker 7: to Trump, who was losing them by fourteen. So that

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Speaker 7: the entire swing for people like Nikki Haley is completely

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Speaker 7: because do you.

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Speaker 2: Think that's real.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that's real, by the way, that college

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Speaker 6: educated like Nicki Haley a lot more than they like Trump,

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Speaker 6: or do you think that's a statistical anomaly.

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Speaker 7: I think there's a definite demographic that like candidates who

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Speaker 7: won speak speak speak closer towards the middle on abortion,

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Speaker 7: which Nikki Hily does. She does have girl boss vibes,

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Speaker 7: which definitely signals a lot of people who you know,

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Speaker 7: want to have a female vice president possibly there. And

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Speaker 7: she hasn't been mired in some of the uglier culture

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Speaker 7: war fights over the last year. She's basically been almost

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Speaker 7: uncompletely unnoticed. She is very much what a generic Republican

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Speaker 7: like John Kasik would have looked like in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 7: I think the longer people hear about her, those numbers

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Speaker 7: might change. But I think that's partially part of the

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Speaker 7: reason why you know, Nikiely does not have a huge name.

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Speaker 7: I d DeSantis does better with college educated whites as well.

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Speaker 7: That's why he just has lower overall name ID. So

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Speaker 7: he's tied with Biden as opposed to Trump, who's getting

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Speaker 7: by one. But it's all insignificant. But among college educated whites,

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Speaker 7: everyone and performs better than Trump. And that's just I mean,

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Speaker 7: Trump supporters might not like that a number, but that

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Speaker 7: is exactly the truth. And they all basically perform as

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Speaker 7: well or better with Trump. Among non college educated whites,

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Speaker 7: this group that apparently Trump could only win, which was

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Speaker 7: you know what Trump supporters like to sit there and say,

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Speaker 7: is not true. Glenn Younkin one non college educated whites

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Speaker 7: by larger margins than Trump did in Virginia, the Santas

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Speaker 7: did in Florida. There's been the governor jawined Is in Ohio.

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Speaker 7: So I mean there's a lot to sit there and

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Speaker 7: say when it comes to the idea that only Trump

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Speaker 7: can win this portion of voters. The question of can

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Speaker 7: the Southwest change New Mexico would take a large, large

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Speaker 7: poll to sit there and make that competitive. Colorado is

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Speaker 7: you know gone, Nevada has a chance, Arizona has a chance,

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Speaker 7: but Let's say you do the Southwest. You know, you

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Speaker 7: try to win the Southwest states and by catering heavily

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Speaker 7: to Hispanics and you put more emphasis in places like Arizona, Nevada, Texas,

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Speaker 7: New Mexico, even if they are Republican. We're to sweep Arizona, Nevada.

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Speaker 7: I think New Mexico might be too heavy to lift.

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Speaker 7: It's worth seventeen Electoral College votes. You're not going to

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Speaker 7: win the presidency like that. There's the states that really

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Speaker 7: do matter are still racially binary states North Carolina, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 7: New Hampshire. Those are all ninety black white states when

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Speaker 7: it comes to the voting electric The rest where the

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Speaker 7: Hispanics live mostly are in very non competitive states right

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Speaker 7: now the ones who are competitive. Florida is slightly competitive.

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Speaker 7: I guess Texas is a very very important Arizona and Nevada.

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Speaker 7: Republicans can't afford to lose the two states are most

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Speaker 7: likely to win there, and they need to win Arizona back.

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Speaker 7: And at the same exact time, the fight will be

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Speaker 7: completely in the Ross Belt and in New Hampshire and

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Speaker 7: North Carolina real quick.

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Speaker 2: Ryn before we let you go. And I just would

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Speaker 2: they had to, they could make Kamala win in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four if Biden did have let's say Biden had

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Speaker 2: the Fetterman routine and just the candidate doesn't matter.

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Speaker 7: I mean, look, I think that the Fetterman routine, it

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Speaker 7: economy is garbage. Everyone knows it, and Biden, for example,

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Speaker 7: Kamala is not likable. The thing that is working against

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Speaker 7: the Republicans is this mere demographics of the country changing.

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Speaker 7: Probably a two million Trump a million to two million

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Speaker 7: Trump voters have passed away since the last election. Millions

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Speaker 7: of gen zs who will be first time voters are

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Speaker 7: overwhelming a democrat. Millions of immigrants who have been legalized

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Speaker 7: But a lot of despite will be on to college

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Speaker 7: educated white people. Are they motivated to sit there a

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Speaker 6: By the way, Carrie Lake is going to join us

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Speaker 6: also worth it noting that there's a huge segment of

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Speaker 6: our nation's two hundred and forty six year history, there's

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Speaker 2: Listen to this.

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Speaker 3: In our nation's two hundred and forty six year history,

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Speaker 3: there has never been an individual who is a greater

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Speaker 3: threat to our republic than Donald Trump. He tried to

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Speaker 3: steal the last election, using lies and violence to keep

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Speaker 3: himself in power after the voters had rejected him. He

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Speaker 3: He lost his election, and he lost big. I know it.

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Speaker 3: He knows it, and deep down I think most Republicans.

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Speaker 6: Know, Like Okay buck two and forty six year history,

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Speaker 6: like there's been a lot of things that we have

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Speaker 6: gone through that were far more dangerous to the Republic

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Speaker 6: than Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Well, when people say things like what change just said,

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Speaker 2: it undermines any faith you could have in their overall judgment,

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Speaker 2: because that's it's a crazy thing to say. It's not

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Speaker 2: an incorrect thing to say, it's an absurd thing to say.

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Speaker 2: And I alsoppreciated if somebody, now, this is never going

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Speaker 2: to happen, but somebody who's like Cheney, a who term

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Speaker 2: vice president, a former White House Chief of staff. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he is gop Old School royalty. Let's be honest. Some

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Speaker 2: people said he was basically running the Bush ADMINISTRAI yat

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Speaker 2: fore years if he's going to say that he doesn't

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Speaker 2: like Donald Trump. Okay, I mean, first of all, he's

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Speaker 2: of course entitled, But how about pointing out that the

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Speaker 2: Democrats are locking up political opponents. Is that not a

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Speaker 2: threat as well? Is that not an issue worthy of

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Speaker 2: speaking out? So when you only do it on the

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Speaker 2: one side and pretend to be principled, I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of people very understandably question not just the motives,

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Speaker 2: but the base ideology of these individuals and what are

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Speaker 2: they really all about.

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Speaker 6: I think Biden is by far a bigger threat to

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Speaker 6: the country than Donald Trump ever was.