1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast part of the Volume 2 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. I am Chad Millman of the Action Network Today. 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by my cost my companion, my 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: compadre might BFF professional better Signmon Hunter els Imon. 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: Chad, what a show we have today, brother dude. 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: We got very special guests for a very special show. 7 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: We like to figure out on this show what is 8 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: going to happen in the future. I don't think any 9 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: medium has been better at predicting what is going to 10 00:00:54,560 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: happen in the future than The Simpsons, which now only 11 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: is that the longest running scripted primetime show in American 12 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: television history, it has been epically successful in predicting the 13 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: most outrageous things, from voting scandals, which one of our 14 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: guests predicted many many years ago, to Olympic curling gold, 15 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: whether it's sports, whether it's politics, whether it's polluted waters 16 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: and three eyed fishes. The Simpsons have been predicting it 17 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: for years, so I wanted to dig in on how 18 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: they do it. Here to discuss it. Two fellas happen 19 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: to be brothers. Both have worked on The Simpsons, one 20 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: still does. They are industry veterans, Canadian Royalty, one of 21 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: them has He's directed one of the best documentaries on 22 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: Canadian sense of humor in history. It's a pretty long list, 23 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: but they are fantastic looking duo. Rob Cone is a 24 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: close buddy. He's been writing and directing his way through 25 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: Hollywood for years on some of the biggest and best 26 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: shows you've all watched, including The Simpsons, Wonder Years, Big Bang, 27 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: my personal favorite, Somebody Somewhere, which made every top ten 28 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: list of the best shows last year. He also won 29 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: an Emmy for his work on The Ben Stiller Show. 30 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 1: If you're a Simpson super fan, he was the screenwriter 31 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: of one of the shows most beloved episode, Flaming Mo's 32 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: season three. His brother, Joel has been with The Simpsons 33 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: for almost thirty years. He's an executive producer of the show. 34 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: He's written nearly forty episodes, some of which we are 35 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: going to talk about today because they presaged some of 36 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: the most outrageous moments literally in history, including a very 37 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 1: special ar tree House of Horrors episode that are still 38 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: relevant today. Like me, Joel is an author, which is 39 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: the hardest thing to do, much harder than a long 40 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: successful career in Hollywood. His delightful book How to Lose 41 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: a Marathon is available wherever books are sold. The Boys, 42 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: the Coen Brothers have a new animated show. It's Hilarious 43 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: Super Team Canada, produced with Will Arnette. He also does 44 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: a podcast. People may have heard of it. It's available 45 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: on CraveTV and on YouTube. Fellas, it's been a long preamble, 46 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: I apologize, but you've been around forever and there's a 47 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: lot of stuff you've been doing, so welcome to the show. 48 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: Rob When the Way to the World has got you 49 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: down and you want to end your life, bills to pay, 50 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: a dead end job, and problems with the wife, but 51 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: don't throw in the tower, because there's a place right 52 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: down the block where you can drink your misery away. 53 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: That flame. 54 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: When the. 55 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 5: Conform you by happiness, it is just a flaming go away. 56 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 5: Happiness is just a flaming move away. 57 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: Say hello, Hello, Chad, this is the sound of my 58 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 4: impressed voice. 59 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, Joel, can you be equally impressed? 60 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 6: It would be hard to match that level of enthusiasm, 61 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 6: but hello as well. 62 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: All right, I got to ask, first off, Joel, you've 63 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: been there forever at this point, why does this keep happening? 64 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: How do you guys continue to predict the future. 65 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 6: We're getting into it right now. 66 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: Let's just do it. 67 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 6: Let's just want to hear it. Let me tell everyone 68 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 6: the sad truth, and then I will try to salvage 69 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 6: it with a little bit of hope at the end. 70 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 6: How about that. So most of the time when people 71 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 6: say Simpsons predicted it, what has happened is the Simpsons 72 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 6: are a bunch of hacks and we have merely reported 73 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 6: on something that has already happened. But the world travels 74 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 6: in cycles. So one of the things that people talk 75 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 6: about recently or semi recently is Simpsons predicted COVID. And 76 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 6: they show this clip that was aired after SARS. If 77 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 6: you guys remember Stars, one of our great viruses, and 78 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 6: we did a joke on the show where like the 79 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 6: news caster Kent Brockman is saying this Asian flu blah 80 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 6: blah blah blah blah. So people show that clip and 81 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 6: they're like, Simpsons predicted COVID. In fact, we are like 82 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 6: probably three years after the fact of SARS and just 83 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 6: doing it a sort of a joke or a take 84 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 6: on SARS. So a lot of times it's just that 85 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 6: cycle of life that looks like there's a prediction. Add 86 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 6: to that now the ability of everybody in the world 87 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 6: to use AI and crappy animation and people are creating 88 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 6: memes and little video clips that look like a prediction after, 89 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 6: of course the fact that it happened. The third thing 90 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 6: I'll throw on the bummer pile is like, for example, 91 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 6: there was these horrific fires in Los Angeles. There's all 92 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 6: these things. Simpsons predicted the fire. Well, we have eight 93 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 6: hundred episodes. Shockingly, we have had one with a fire 94 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 6: in it, so you can find a clip of a 95 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 6: fire and then say Simpsons brick at the fire. So 96 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 6: those are the bumbers. The good news is the Dave 97 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 6: I started the day after this aired. But one of 98 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 6: our writers, Dan Graney, who Rob knows certainly, was writing 99 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 6: an episode and he had to think of it was 100 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 6: in the future. I forget the name of the episode, 101 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 6: but it's in the future when Lisa becomes president and 102 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 6: replaces the former president and had to name who the 103 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 6: president was. Dan's first idea was President Depp because he thought, oh, 104 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 6: Johnny Depp. Then he thought, no, no, that's too viable. It 105 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 6: has to be the most ridiculous, idiotic name you could 106 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 6: ever put in there, So he chose President Trump, which 107 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 6: that was in two thousand that aired, So that was 108 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 6: a clear prediction. And as you've mentioned with all the 109 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 6: last thing, I say, with eight hundred episodes, we occasionally 110 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 6: do stuff that then does prove prescient, like we've predicted 111 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 6: Olympic curling success and World Cup scores and Super Bowl teams, 112 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 6: et cetera. So long winded answer to say, often it's 113 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 6: either super laziness and a little bit of luck. 114 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: Well, look, I know Simon is a he's a Halloween 115 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: special lover. And Joel, that's one of your many specialties. 116 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: The sports angle on this and I know someone wants 117 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: to ask about it because it's also contains one of 118 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: the greatest and most relevant prescient predictions that has happened 119 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: in The Simpsons. But the sports angle is fascinating to 120 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: me because everyone in that room is clearly a sports fan, 121 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: and you guys have predicted so many things. You know, 122 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: as I used to run USP in the magazine and 123 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, I think you guys did FIFA corruption 124 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: and you had a French version of ESP in the 125 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: magazine that had the cover of you know, French of 126 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: a FIFA corruption and a year later that's happening, right, 127 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: And so where does the sports fandom come in to 128 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: all this? 129 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 6: Tons and tons of sports fans. I wouldn'tay everybody's a 130 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 6: sports fan, but it's a lot of guys with nothing better, 131 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 6: didn't look at their phones all day. So there are 132 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 6: a lot of sports fans. And then of course sports, 133 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 6: just like anything else in society, trickles in for predictions. 134 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 6: But like FIFA corruption, I probably could have told you 135 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 6: in nineteen eighty three that there was FIFA corruption, right, 136 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 6: so that we did a story about it is not 137 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 6: so shocking. So Anya, we just do a lot of 138 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 6: sports episodes. I just had an episode on a couple 139 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 6: weeks ago that sort of mirrored the Otani betting scandal. 140 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys heard about that. It 141 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 6: wasn't covered very much in the media, but so we 142 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 6: had a Macedonian baseball player who gets corrupted and starts 143 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 6: betting on sports as well. So that was on a 144 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 6: few weeks ago. You know, So lots and lots of 145 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 6: sports fans. I guess is a half answer to the 146 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 6: full question, Senate, would you like to yeah. 147 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: Rob it? 148 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: Rob In my mind you grew up in the greatest 149 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: generation of comedy and friend, not talking to Marria, I'm 150 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: talking Canadian comedy. You had Jim Carrey nor McDonald and 151 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: even before that. You know, it's a bunch of legends 152 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: where you know more in short, to me, one of 153 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: the greatest comedic minds ever. What made that little pocket 154 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: of Canadians so fucking funny? It's like crazy, like even 155 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: all these years later, like I go back and I 156 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: watch old norm it's so hard for comedy to hold 157 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: up thirty years later. And that's how you know these 158 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: people are away out of their time, like you're a 159 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: part of it, Like you are part of this group 160 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: of people that put themselves out there in a unique way. 161 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: What do you think makes Canada produce these heavyweight comedy styles. 162 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 4: Well, you're giving me if there's more than a one 163 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 4: hundred percent, you're giving me more than that credit or 164 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 4: something that I really didn't do, because I agree with you. 165 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 4: You know, every country mostly has their own unique sense 166 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 4: of humor. And obviously if you're in the United States 167 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 4: or Britain or Canada, it's more mainstream just because of 168 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: the way they make TV shows. But I do agree 169 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 4: with you. It's Canada, you know, for its relatively small population, 170 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 4: has generated these hitters in comedy forever. And there's a 171 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 4: million theories, but I think it's really because we're stuck 172 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 4: between England and the United States, and we are watching 173 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: the US and observing them, and we're sort of watching 174 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: Britain and we know we're kind of British, kind of American, 175 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 4: but we're also naval gazers to a degree, and that 176 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 4: internalized thought process creates this weird mish mash that is 177 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: this observational comedy. And there's no real theory, but I 178 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: will say I agree with you. I mean, to me, 179 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 4: SCTV is the greatest sketch show and sketch group of 180 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 4: all time, and Python is a very very tight tie 181 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 4: with them, and then everything else is a big drop off. 182 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 4: They're good, but they're never going to be that level. 183 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: And I think so much of it is just being 184 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 4: insane because you have terrible weather and you're stuck inside 185 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 4: and you're envious of your neighbors and you just kind 186 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 4: of get this distorted, passive, aggressive style of comedy. So 187 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 4: I think that's why Canada has created that. And then 188 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 4: you have people like Jim Carrey, who is obviously brilliant, 189 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 4: or Martin Shorter, any of the STTV people that when 190 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 4: they go to the States, they're viewed as these exotic, 191 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 4: weird aliens that happen to live on the land mask 192 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 4: that's connected to you. But their view on things is 193 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 4: so different and they're great mimics. And I think that's 194 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 4: what's led to the Canadian style of comedy. 195 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: And I love the old theory of the cold and 196 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: the harsh weather, just like in England. When you come 197 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: over here, it makes you need to laugh about life. 198 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: And that's why, you know, I always joke I go 199 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 2: back and visit family just about how even a local 200 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: guy at the pub could be the funniest person you've 201 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: ever met in your entire life when I go back 202 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 2: to England. And I've had that with Canadians, Like I've 203 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 2: had a lot of friends who've come down here and 204 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: I feel like, what you're talking about, they just don't know. 205 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: They're just so different, especially to Americans, even though you 206 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: know they are not even that far away. And yeah, 207 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: I love you know, Mike Myers talks about it. Where 208 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: you know Canadians they'll be talking and be like oh, 209 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: and he died the other day, so sad, and it's 210 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: just like really funny, but they don't know they're being funny. 211 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: There's you know, throw these type of things in and yeah, 212 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: for someone like you, I just thought it was interesting 213 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: where you really grew up in the perfect. 214 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 4: Era of that type of comedy. 215 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, obviously you don't't take any credit for it, 216 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 2: so I won't keep pushing it on. 217 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: You, I think. I mean, the last thing I'll say 218 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 4: in that is, I really think bad weather has something 219 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: to do with it, because you have written. You think 220 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 4: about the United States, you have New Boston, you rarely 221 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: hear of like a hot, brilliant edgy comic from Tempe. 222 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 4: You know, like, it's not it's just I think being 223 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 4: stuck inside and in sort of crappy weather and observing 224 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 4: and having a lot of time with your own thoughts 225 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 4: and then watching TV creates that that flow out of you. 226 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 4: And you know, I think if you think about Monty 227 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: Python just as an example there, it's crappy weather. They 228 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 4: had no money, they had no support. They were these 229 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: guys that were very well educated and people thought they 230 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 4: were weird, so they just banded together and using amazing 231 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 4: brain power created Monty Python, which is incredible. So I 232 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: think that, to me is sort of the perfect soup 233 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: for how you get to places like that. 234 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: I feel like you were just throwing shade at Arizona Zone. 235 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: David Spade. 236 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 4: I love Spade, but name your second favorite Arizona comic check. 237 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: You can't do it, Okay, Next topic. 238 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 6: Garry Shanling. That's pretty good. 239 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: He moved there though he doesn't count. 240 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 4: Are you guys sponsored by the State of Arizona? Tours 241 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 4: on board? 242 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 6: Exactly? Comedy clubs in Arizona? 243 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: Kiss that goodbye, Joe. 244 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: You both of you, I know, are huge sports fans. 245 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: Give me a sense from your own experience how sports 246 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: and forms even the slightest way, what you're doing day 247 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: to day with the Simpsons, or just your enjoyment of 248 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: the industry that you're in. 249 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 6: Well, I am a very i'd say deep sports fan. 250 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 6: Of course, during football season, I think I do five 251 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 6: fantasy teams and pick Rob and I have been in 252 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 6: a Pickham league for a long time together. 253 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 4: You're Canadian. 254 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: Who's your team local? 255 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 6: Well, when we were growing up in Calgary, we used 256 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 6: to get channels from Washington State, so Seahawks fan, but 257 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 6: as you know, once you get into fantasy football, you've 258 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 6: corrupted yourself horribly and you can't be a fan to 259 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 6: anybody anymore. So my my favorite fan is my wallet. 260 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 6: My favorite team is my wallet, and just trying to win, 261 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 6: which I never do, but I love it. And then 262 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 6: right now, like I'm deep in the hockey playoffs, we're 263 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 6: in a bit of a moral quandary right now because 264 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 6: we were from Calgary, which despises the city of Edmonton. 265 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 6: But Edmonton is the last Canadian team and they're playing Florida, 266 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 6: which is maybe the worst American place further to be 267 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 6: a hockey team, So we're kind of being forced to 268 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 6: cheer for the Oilers. But I am as a patriot. 269 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 6: And then at work, everyone's betting on sports all the time. 270 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 6: Another thing I'll just throw in the pile. I wrote 271 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 6: a book with Dan Patrick, your old colleague from ESPN 272 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 6: about football that I really enjoyed. So I'm I'm deep 273 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 6: in sports as much as I can be outside of work, 274 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 6: and love it in every capacity. 275 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 4: I to that, Oh sorry, I'll add to that that. 276 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 4: You know, I started Gracie Films as a company that 277 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 4: produces the Simpson So I started there a long time ago, 278 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 4: and even as a naive pearl clutching Canadian lad, I 279 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: was stunned at the level of sports gambling and just 280 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 4: gambling that happens at that company, like numbers that are shocking, 281 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 4: but people that were very into it and still do it, 282 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: and bookies and the whole thing. And even they have 283 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 4: a thing called the Grazy Pool which has been going 284 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,119 Speaker 4: on for twenty plus years. Joel and I have participated 285 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 4: in it, but that's the least serious level of sports 286 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 4: gambling they do, and that is a serious pool to 287 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 4: get in. So if you're easily scared, I would avoid 288 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: grazy films when it comes to gambling. But if you 289 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: love sports, it's a great place to be. And the 290 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 4: Simpson's great because there's so many sports fans. 291 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 6: But just to throw one last thing, Sorry, Chad, I 292 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 6: see you and you're either about to throw up or 293 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 6: to talk either way either or welcome. But I was 294 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 6: gonna say, like it's writers rooms are like eight to 295 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 6: ten people stuck in a room all day for anywhere 296 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 6: from eight to sometimes fifteen hours. I mean, it's inevitable 297 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 6: that you if it's a lot of people that are 298 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 6: into sports, there's going to be a lot of bets 299 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 6: coming out of that environment. 300 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, gambling and comedy though, goes hand 301 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: in hand chat like most especially in my line of work. 302 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: A lot of comedians who I've met in my life, 303 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: especially when I was living in Vegas, was all because 304 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: of sports betting, and they'll be in the books and 305 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 2: they'll be like, hey, you got to come meet this guy, 306 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: and you go over there, and again that's how I 307 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: met Norm McDonald. This guy was a notorious Gambley who 308 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: lived in the book. 309 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 6: And you know, that's. 310 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: Someone that I, you know, ran into and I knew 311 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: right away. People told me, do not tell him you're 312 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 2: a fan or that you enjoy his work. It will 313 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: be a much better experience and from him. I've done 314 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: that with every comedian I've ever met with that and 315 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 2: they all love betting. I think it's the rush day chase, 316 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: the same thing that kind of get on stage. 317 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 6: And what you know I. 318 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: Would love to know about the Simpsons writers is when 319 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: they're predicting these Super Bowls, is there something behind it? 320 00:17:59,160 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 3: Right? 321 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: Are they trying to speak into existence with their own 322 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 2: bets or is that just once again just by luck. 323 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 6: You know, I think at some point we can all 324 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 6: tell who the favorites are in a season, so you 325 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 6: can make it somewhat of a prediction of You know, 326 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 6: if I said, narrow it down to five teams that 327 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 6: could be in the super Bowl, you'd probably be right 328 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 6: on three or two of them. So it's mostly luck. 329 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 6: What gets freaky Sometimes we've actually got the score right 330 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 6: things like that. So that is just that is pure luck. 331 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 6: But Simon as a professional better. I say, bet on 332 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 6: everything you see on The Simpsons, because they're all going 333 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 6: to come true. You got nothing, yep. 334 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: I want to know how we get into the Gracie 335 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: Films pool. It feels like exactly the kind of pool 336 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: we'd want to be in, Simon. 337 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 4: It's a substantial I'm happy to ask. It's a substantial investment. 338 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 4: At the beginning of the season you are playing against 339 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 4: it's all with the spread, and there are some people 340 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 4: in the pool use extra resources and outside sources for 341 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 4: their information. But the great thing about it is that 342 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 4: if you win a week or you win the whole pot, 343 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 4: somebody will deliver fresh cash to your location. And when 344 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 4: I say fresh cash, it is unused bills that are 345 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 4: perfectly crisp in an envelope to your location of choice, 346 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 4: and that thrill is it's got nice payouts. But if 347 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 4: you happen to win, you will have somebody pull up 348 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 4: in a Manila envelope with a Manilla envelope of cash 349 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 4: that looks incredible, and that that's the moment you want 350 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 4: to savor. 351 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: Let's say Chad knows my favorite competitions in America attacks 352 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 2: free competition. 353 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 4: So yes, exactly right now, do. 354 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 6: You guys remember the gold Sheet, Simon? Is that still around? 355 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 6: The gold Sheet? 356 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: It's not around anymore. We actually tried to buy it 357 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: when I was at ESPN, and it's sort of it's 358 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: just not really a thing anymore. It's just not it's 359 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: not necessary right now given the way the world is. 360 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: But why do you say? 361 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 6: A guy that Rob and I both have worked with, 362 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 6: and a wonderful guy and an incredible Simpsons writer and 363 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 6: legendary and really great guy. He was a avid reader 364 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 6: of the gold Sheet and Avid Better. I won't reveal 365 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 6: his name, but he one time bet I'm going to say, 366 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 6: forty thousand dollars on a presidential election and lost. But anyhow, 367 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 6: he's the real He was a real deep reader of 368 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 6: the gold Cheat I remember even like preseason football, him 369 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 6: telling me like, that's where you make all your money 370 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 6: is in preseason football. And I never believed that then 371 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 6: and still don't believe it now. But he was a 372 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,479 Speaker 6: He would have the gold cheat in front of him 373 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 6: all the time. 374 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 4: Well, I will just add to the depravity of the 375 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: Simpsons and gambling where I won't say a name, but 376 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 4: there was a person there who made a lot of 377 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 4: money and basically placed two bets on the color of 378 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 4: the gatorade that would be splashed on a coach and 379 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: bet against themselves on the color that They were covering 380 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: every possible color of gatorade and were rooting basically against 381 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 4: themselves hoping for this color, knowing that they couldn't win 382 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 4: because they spread the money out too much on the gatorade. 383 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 4: But there's definitely enthusiasm for cash free earnings at that show. 384 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, my favorite gatorade story is Jared Lorenzen, who you 385 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: guys might remember was a three hundred pound quarterback at Kentucky. Yes, 386 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: and he made it to the NFL. He was a 387 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: backup for the Giants when they made it to the 388 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and against the Patriots, And I feel like 389 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: it was the second Super Bowl, and before the game, 390 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: which happened to be in Arizona, he was on the 391 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: field and he texted all of his friends back in 392 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: Kentucky the color of the gatorade on both sidelines. So 393 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: he wasn't telling them which team he thought was gonna 394 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: win or giving them anything other than if you think 395 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots are gonna win, this is the color of 396 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: the gatorade. If you think the Giants are gonna win, 397 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: this is the color of the gatorade. And it's gotten 398 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: to the point where that and the national anthem, like, 399 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: how have you guys not done a national anthem controversy 400 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: with a famous singer and the betting on that as 401 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: an episode. 402 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 6: You may have predicted it. The part I took of 403 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 6: that whole story. That's sad is that there's only one 404 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 6: color of gatorade on each sideline, Like teams could afford 405 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 6: a variety, a smorgas board of different gatorades. We don't 406 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 6: know which one's gonna be dumped. But it's sad to 407 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 6: think that they just commit to yellow or blue or 408 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 6: orange or whatever. 409 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 4: I have a touchdown. 410 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: I do have a Simpson question that you know this 411 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: is just something you would know because it's something you 412 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 2: have to be inside if this is true or not. 413 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: I'm obviously grew up south Park fan, Simpsons fan, never 414 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: liked Family Guy. The South Park episode with the manatees 415 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: pushing the balls to make a family gapisode. Is it 416 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: true you guys sent them a bottle of was it 417 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 2: champagne or wine? 418 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 6: I don't believe that's true. Oh, I mean we love 419 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 6: that episode. They have another episode which maybe is the 420 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 6: same one where they did Simpsons did it? So Simpsons 421 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 6: did it? Yeah, yeah, which we have a really good 422 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 6: relationship with south Park and shockingly to send many people 423 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 6: pretty much with Family Guy now as well. 424 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, because to me, like like Bill Hayter, a guy 425 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 2: who does work for south Park, he felt like he 426 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: was like a Simpsons guy, and that you can really 427 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 2: see his style. You can tell he just grew up 428 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: on Simpsons and he's taken a lot of that to 429 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: South Park. I just to me, that was one of 430 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 2: their best hires ever. Where it's it's like that's a 431 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: match made and heaven where again the influence of Simpsons 432 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 2: and it's on comedy the same thing with SNL. It's 433 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 2: it changed everything and there's little pieces of all this comedy, 434 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,239 Speaker 2: in all this new comedy. So yeah, I just had 435 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: to ask that question because that's like, as a south 436 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: Park man, I always wondered, Okay, the south Park and 437 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: Simpsons is actually cool. So I love to hear that 438 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 2: you guys are actually you guys like you to. 439 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 6: We love those guys. And Bill Hayter's been a voice 440 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 6: on the show a bunch of times and is amazing incredible. 441 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: Is there a South Park Simpson's Family Guy pool that 442 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: exists and so maybe we can start one? 443 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 6: Well, forgive me, Rob, I'm talking more than I should, 444 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 6: but we do this thing at the Simpsons, which is 445 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 6: equally sad. But we do a fantasy football league for 446 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 6: summer box office, so we auction off movies. You can. 447 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 6: We have one hundred dollars fictional money, and you bid 448 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 6: on the movies that we divide into lots, and big 449 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 6: movies get split into thirds or quarters or half, depending 450 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 6: on how big we think they are. But that idea 451 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 6: is internal to the Simpsons, has been going on for 452 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 6: twenty years. But then I've heard that Family Guy and 453 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 6: maybe South Park have taken on that idea and have 454 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 6: done it themselves. 455 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: Internally, I feel like, you guys are much bigger gamblers 456 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: than I had any sense of it before, And now 457 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: I understand. Like when I'm hanging out with Rob and 458 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: it's the middle of the football season and I'm staying 459 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: at his house and I land at you know, seven 460 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: o'clock and it's ten o'clock East Coast time, and I'm 461 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: at his house and I'm having dinner and I'm falling asleep, 462 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: but he keeps asking me questions about who I like 463 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: for the weekend. It's all starting to make sense now. 464 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 6: Well. 465 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 4: I also when when Rad Chad shows up and stays 466 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 4: at his Hollywood mansion, We're so excited that you're here, 467 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: but also you know everything, So whether it's the fantasy 468 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 4: pool that win or just some insane situation like what's 469 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: happening with Aaron Rodgers, now like it's you are honestly 470 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 4: the only person that I feel can make sense of 471 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 4: a lot of ridiculous situations. So like Dak Prescott, you go, 472 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 4: why aren't the Cowboys drafting X Y? Do they really like? 473 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 6: Dak? 474 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 4: Like You're the only guy I can go to to 475 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 4: get the answers. But at the same time, there's all 476 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 4: this weekly drama where you go, you wonder like the 477 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 4: Bengals a few years ago when they were hot, It's like, 478 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 4: do you think they can keep the heat on and 479 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 4: get to the super Bowl and win it? Because it's 480 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 4: so out of the blue that you're talking about the 481 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 4: Bengals and the super Bowl. So you are the guy 482 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: that I go to for everything. And sometimes it's connected 483 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 4: to the fantasy League that Joel and Iron, and sometimes it. 484 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: Isn't Simon's here that I am the guy. 485 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 4: He's the guy I was gonna ask Bob. 486 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: Is Chad the best house guf guest ever? Is it 487 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 2: like he eats barely anything, maybe uses the bathroom twice. 488 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 2: Bets made him perfect every morning after he weeks up. 489 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: He's just easy going? 490 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 4: Is We love it when Chad is here? Our son 491 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 4: loves Chad. They we have photo documentation of them partying 492 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 4: for years and years and years. But when Rad Chad 493 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 4: is in town, we are very, very very excited. 494 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 2: Now Chad only takes three beers and he's in bed 495 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: by nine pm. 496 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 6: It's it's good, so true. 497 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 4: We love it. 498 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: Do you guys? Do you guys? Have you guys thought 499 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: about Super Bowl futures already? Is there a Gracie films 500 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: pool that takes advantage of Super Bowl futures. Joel, do 501 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: you have a position that you've taken that you would 502 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: like to share. 503 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 6: I hate the season long bats. I need the quick hits, 504 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 6: like I hate thinking like, oh, will the Giants win 505 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 6: more or less than nine games a year? So no, 506 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 6: I don't. There's no future discussion. I'm sure again, like 507 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 6: I said, we could all talk about which teams we 508 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 6: think will be back this year, but I've I have 509 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 6: no official financial position, all right. 510 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: Also, the Simpsons, and like every writer's room that I've 511 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 4: ever been, they're certainly a handful of rabbit gamblers, one 512 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 4: or two that have a big problem. But you're sitting 513 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 4: in a room forever and you've got phones now before 514 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 4: you didn't have phones, and people are then naturally check 515 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 4: out scores or they're going to do online gambling, and 516 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 4: so that just leads to filling in the gaps between 517 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 4: pitching on a story where you start talking about gambling 518 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 4: and football season especially. But I just think it's only increased. 519 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, and everyone's got a runner now, right, even if 520 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 2: you're in a state that doesn't have it. You know 521 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: a guy in the state that does that can do 522 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 2: something for you? And I was gonna say, if you're 523 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 2: gonna make one futures bet Joe, are you in. 524 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 6: La for work? Yeah? Yep, dude. 525 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: Throw throw a little either on the rams of the 526 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: forty nine ers, get get involved in California a little 527 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: bit and. 528 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 6: Do a band. I don't have the patience. I need it. 529 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 6: I need it Bath. I was gonna say you better 530 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 6: and forget it better and forget it. People bet like 531 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 6: on stuff like what time the show runner will let 532 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 6: us leave. We'll bet on if someone has to go 533 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 6: out of the room and prepare like ten jokes for 534 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 6: one spot in the script, we will bet on which 535 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 6: of the ten. We bet the other day on a 536 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 6: guy we work with this loves to get tattoos, And 537 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 6: someone came in and presented five tattoos, only one of 538 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 6: which was real, and we bet on which tattoo was 539 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 6: the real one. The answer he got it on his wrist. 540 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 6: It says no les because he lost his rolelex, so 541 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 6: it says no Lex on. 542 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: His When you were doing the he did a Treehouse 543 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: of Horrors episode where Homer went to vote. It was 544 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: Barack Obama John McCain. This presage a lot of freaking chaos. 545 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: Explain what happened in the episode and obviously how it 546 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: predicted more and more chaos in the voting world. 547 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 6: Well, I hate to keep going back. I think it's 548 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 6: just like you see these trends that are obvious, right 549 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 6: where like obviously you know jerrymandering of voting districts and stuff, 550 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 6: and you can just tell there's going to be voting 551 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 6: chaos in our future, and you know, people restricting people's 552 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 6: rights to votes and all that stuff. So all that 553 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 6: stuff was bubbling, I believe with that one and with 554 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 6: many other times, like it takes nine months to make 555 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 6: an episode of The Simpsons, so a lot of times 556 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 6: we don't do really topical stuff. But I think in 557 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 6: that case we literally held it or prepared like multiple 558 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 6: versions and then just slotted in the most likely one 559 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 6: at the last minute of who was going to be 560 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 6: on the ballot. We've done that a few times where 561 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 6: we just because we can't risk it to the very 562 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 6: last minute. So I mean, again, I guess I'm answering 563 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 6: my first question. It was just that idea that all 564 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 6: that stuff was in the water already, that idea of 565 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 6: what will happen to elections in voting chaos, we probably 566 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 6: got a little bit lucky. But then just even if 567 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 6: you're talking about sipping names on the ballot, I think 568 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 6: that was just literally waiting till the Friday before it 569 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 6: aired on the Sunday. 570 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then since then, of course, there have been 571 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: nearly billion dollars in payments. 572 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 6: For the. 573 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: Libel of voting machine irregularities. Some nice job nailed that one. 574 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 6: And I've made like half of that billion, so it's 575 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 6: worked out pretty well for me. 576 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: But I also feel like when you're doing these things, 577 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: it's almost like you're sitting in the room and when 578 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: you're not betting on tattoos and jokes and you know 579 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: your NFL pools, you're sitting there and you're thinking. And 580 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: this feels very much in line with how comedy writers 581 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: would think. What is the worst thing, the darkest thing, 582 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: the most outrageous thing that can happen, and let's write 583 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: that into existence? Is that ever the framework for the 584 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: starting or a starting point for an episode or a conversation? 585 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, Rob, you want to answer that, you've guessed, Well. 586 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 4: I'll let Jole answer the specific Simpsons things, but I'll 587 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 4: give you two very fast examples that I witnessed Back 588 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 4: in the wild times of the late nineties and early 589 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 4: two thousands, there were two different well known television shows 590 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 4: that they would make very serious bets, one of which 591 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: was could a PA eat five cans? The large cans 592 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 4: of Heinz Binzel you know story. So it's like when 593 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 4: you go to the market, there's the Hines big beans, 594 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 4: and then there's the super Family size. So they started 595 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 4: throwing cash on the table if the PA could eat 596 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 4: these cans of beans. So cutting to the chase, the 597 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 4: PA did it. They weren't doing any work. It took hours, 598 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 4: and the PA was choking down and people kept throwing 599 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: more money on it, and I think on the table 600 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 4: was like twenty five thousand dollars in cash, which is 601 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 4: why they had that their pocket is crazy. So now 602 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 4: the PA, he wanted to win because he was gonna 603 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 4: get a big cut. And then somebody, after the PAD 604 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 4: got the last spoonful of beans down, said I'm going 605 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 4: to double the pot if he doesn't crap his pants 606 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 4: in the next hour, and the PA literally ran outside 607 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 4: and ran towards a hill near Warner Brothers Studios where 608 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 4: this was happening. He had to go to the bathroom 609 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 4: so badly. He wasn't even thinking where's the bathroom. He 610 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 4: just ran straight towards a hill and ed machine gun 611 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 4: diarrhea all over this hill. But then the next argument 612 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 4: was does that count because he was off property? Like 613 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 4: there was such depravity going on with this, it was 614 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 4: like does it count? Somebody has to go up the 615 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 4: hill to make sure it's his diarrhea. So there's levels 616 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 4: and levels of insanity. And then the other. 617 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 6: Story is a beautiful tree grows on that hill, thanks 618 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 6: for that dirhea that we all. 619 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 4: Have a mighty diarrhea oak. Yeah, And so then the 620 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 4: the last one in one sentence is there was a 621 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 4: room that I was in where the showrunner had a 622 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 4: problem with some powdered medication that he enjoyed inhaling, and 623 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 4: people made bets on which part of his body would 624 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 4: fall off first, and it was a lot of money, 625 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 4: and the winner was his septum. So they go dark 626 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 4: and make a lot of money. 627 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: Yes, I was actually saying, like first for an episode 628 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: for ideas. 629 00:33:51,480 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so sorry, just edit those oats. 630 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 6: It to you, you know, if you can get to 631 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 6: a funny, dark place, like yeah, we all sometimes think 632 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 6: of where do you end up? But then we gotta 633 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 6: have to kind of get there in a funny dark way. 634 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 6: So yeah, sometimes thinking of a bleak, you know, apocalyptic nightmare. 635 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 6: If as long as we can get there in an interesting, 636 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 6: funny way, We've done that many many times. 637 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: Well, that is like a very similar simon you were 638 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: saying it before, Like there is a mindset and a 639 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: sort of character trait where gamblers and comedy writers live 640 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: in a very dark space. Like the bigger the risk, 641 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: the less your expectation is that you will succeed, the 642 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: more you are planning that the other side of this 643 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: is going to be miserable, and you're willing to live 644 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: in that misery. Comedy writing is as big a risk 645 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: as betting. Like Rob, you go down from Canada, You're 646 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: not thinking, I'm going to end up having this beautiful 647 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: life here thing and I just want to be funny. 648 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 4: I've never thought I could be funny. But yes, I 649 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: think it's a risk because you're you are deciding when 650 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 4: to speak, and if you speak, you hope what you 651 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 4: say is received well and is funny, and otherwise you 652 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 4: shut down. But then you in your head, you're like 653 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 4: you can't be quite too long because I'm gonna get fired, 654 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 4: so I need to speak again, and then you just 655 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 4: the cycle continues, and yeah, it has its own challenges. 656 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Rob's nail It two where you don't 657 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: even know what's funny until you actually say it, or 658 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: and like give other people's reactions to it, right, Because 659 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: that's that's the challenging part with comedy. It's it's all subjective. 660 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 2: And yes, as someone that does love dark comedy, you know, 661 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: I'll laugh at really easy, lame jokes all the time, 662 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: Like even jokes that miss are some of my favorite jokes. 663 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, it is all random, and 664 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 2: you know, I view it as you know, we were 665 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: talking a little about here with the Simpsons. It's like 666 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: I would love what's the highest rate you guys ever got? 667 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 6: Do you ever get? 668 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 4: Like was it? 669 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 3: Why? 670 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: Fourteen? Like what's what's the limit you can push it? 671 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 2: Now that we have presidents cursing on national television, Like 672 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: is there a limit? 673 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 6: Now there's a I don't even know what ratings are anymore, 674 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 6: like like ratings are anymore. But you know, we're sort 675 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 6: of bound a little bit by the constraints of the 676 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 6: show that it's established over forty years or thirty years, 677 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 6: but we've you know, we've stretched as society's appetite for 678 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 6: all that stuff is stretched. But like we had an 679 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,479 Speaker 6: episode once where March said BFD like big fucking deal 680 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 6: and Fox bleeped the F like just the letter F 681 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 6: was offensive in that in that context. So and then 682 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 6: we're doing an episode now with like a we've been 683 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 6: told we can't show Homer's butt anymore, and like, you know, 684 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 6: stuff like that. So like the world is changing and 685 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 6: we're just kind of dodging, and you know, it's always 686 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 6: lawyers trying to protect themselves. But I don't know what 687 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 6: the ratings are anymore, and no one seems to care. 688 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: Also, right right, my last time this question, it's it's 689 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 2: a stupid conspiracy plot for the pig. What is it 690 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 2: deal with that fucking pig? Is there something deep behind 691 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 2: it or is it just spider pig walking on the ceiling. 692 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 6: That is one of the things that I think has 693 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 6: shocked everybody so much that it talk about a pig 694 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 6: with some of someone's digestive problems. There's a perfect play 695 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 6: into that. But yeah, in the movie, they just put 696 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 6: the pig and then like that spider pig joke. I 697 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 6: think if you when you heard that pitch, it sounds 698 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 6: like that's a pretty easy lame joke, but that has 699 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 6: like registered and resonated so strong that everybody spider pig 700 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 6: and people love spider pig. And in the writer's room 701 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 6: there's a spider pig hanging from the ceiling, and like 702 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 6: that's just one of those things where you just didn't 703 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 6: know how big it would be and it seemed like 704 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 6: a pretty easy half joke to start with. But whatever 705 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 6: reason people love that and the deal with it is 706 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 6: just we don't know. And but God bless it. 707 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: You know, this makes total sense now, simon the way 708 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: you just described it. I feel like being in a 709 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: writer's room, Rob and Joel. It's a little bit like 710 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: you're chasing you know, you lose a bet? All right, 711 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: How quickly can I get the next jer joke out 712 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: there to see if I can get the win versus? 713 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 6: All right? 714 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: Do I hold back? Do I want to keep my 715 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: powder dry? Do I need to build my bank roll? 716 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: Like when you're in the room, Joe, you start, is 717 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 1: there that anxiety that sweat, that energy that you feel 718 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 1: that is very similar oh yeah. 719 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 6: Like what Rob said was you could have been talking 720 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,439 Speaker 6: about me. Like I didn't speak for the first six months, 721 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 6: and then I was told if I don't start talking, 722 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 6: I'm going to be fired because you're so nervous. And 723 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 6: then at some point you have to pitch, which is 724 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,479 Speaker 6: just really exposing yourself pretty raw, and it's a laugh 725 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 6: or it's not a laugh. But then you quickly just 726 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 6: realize that everybody next to you is doing the same 727 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 6: thing over and over and over again. So you know, 728 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 6: we're all sort of gambling where the stakes are pretty 729 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 6: low unless you get on a really really bad streak 730 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 6: where you don't have anything in for maybe a year, 731 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 6: and then you get fired. But yeah, you've got to 732 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 6: just keep throwing stuff out there. But I was very 733 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 6: intimidated at the beginning. 734 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 2: My favorite Larry David's story in SNL is that he 735 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 2: kept getting the shit taking off the board, and every 736 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 2: day he'd go and they'd take it off. He goes 737 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 2: another great day at the office, perfect, just perfect. I 738 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: love that story. Just he lived for failure and that's 739 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 2: why you know he's one of the greatest comedic minds 740 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,439 Speaker 2: ever lived. 741 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's all like the same with gambling. 742 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 4: Like you said, it's especially if you're on a live 743 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 4: action show that has an audience. To me, the highest 744 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 4: pressure is when you're shooting in front of the audience 745 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 4: on a Friday night and you're on the floor in 746 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 4: a joke tanks. You have seconds to rush over to 747 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 4: the showrunner and pitch a fix while the showrunner and 748 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 4: the cast and the crew are there and the audience. 749 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 4: And the worst thing is if you're pitch tanks because 750 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 4: especially if it gets to the actors and it sucks, 751 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 4: it's like you cannot find a corner small enough to 752 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 4: hide in, but you got to go back and stick 753 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 4: your face in the wood chipper again the next time 754 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 4: it happens. So it's really that's part of the fun 755 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 4: of it. But at the same time, it's like, this 756 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 4: is my opening. I've got to make it, and it's 757 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 4: better to try than to be silent. 758 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: Well do you remember, for both of you the first 759 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: time sitting in this kind of environment when you had 760 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: a pitch or a joke and it worked and you 761 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 1: felt that rush like, Okay, I've got one on the board. 762 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 6: Joe, you first, like I said, I really went the 763 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 6: first few months without talking and then I was told 764 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 6: I have to start pitching, So I can't even tell 765 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 6: you the first joke I got on the show. We 766 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 6: used to do this thing where we'd send people off. 767 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 6: Everyone get stuck on, like, we can't find a joke here, 768 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 6: so you idiot, go write ten or thirty and come 769 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 6: back and pitch them to us and hopefully one will fit. 770 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 6: So I was that guy. And the setup was that 771 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 6: Marge was mad at Homer and he said, what do 772 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 6: I do to fix this? And someone said take her 773 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 6: to dinner or maybe a show. And then my joke was, 774 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 6: what about Benny Hannah? Where dinner is the show? And 775 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 6: that was the joke that got on the show, and 776 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 6: that broke my broke the eye. 777 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: So that was thirty years later. 778 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 6: You're still with that joke. Shockingly, I'm still here. 779 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,959 Speaker 4: I know legacy joke. 780 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 6: I know what about you. 781 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 4: I would say as far as being on staff of 782 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 4: a show, it was probably the Ben Stiller show. We 783 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 4: wanted to We were on the Fox network and they 784 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 4: absolutely hated our guts and we hated them. So we 785 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 4: were doing sort of a parody of a shitty Fox show, 786 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 4: and I wanted to be introduced by the crappiest mascot ever. 787 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 4: So it was somebody in a ratty Fox costume and 788 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 4: Ben was like, well, what do we call this guy? 789 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 4: And the worst joke ever, I said, what if we 790 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 4: call him Foxy? The Fox Network Fox? And then I 791 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 4: realized that the words came out of my mouth that 792 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 4: is the hackiest pitch of all time. And Ben just 793 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 4: fell over laughing, and in my mind I was like, 794 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 4: why are you laughing? That's terrible, But then I just 795 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 4: shut my mouth and let him enjoy it and sort 796 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 4: of had one moment of comfort where it felt like, Okay, 797 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 4: that one was a winner for whatever reason. 798 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: Rob, I want you to tell people and this is 799 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: my last sort of inside Simpson's prediction because this one 800 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 1: is so outrageous. It can't just be Joel like this 801 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: had already happened. So it was in the ether and 802 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: we just played off it. There's no way possible. Rob, 803 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: you are the inspiration for the artwork for Milhouse. Explain 804 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: what happened and how that came to be, because Milhouse 805 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: has one of the greatest predictions in Simpson's history. 806 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 4: Well, I cannot claim any credit for this, but the 807 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 4: quick version of the story was back when the show started, 808 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 4: they wanted to use an animation company to save money, 809 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 4: and so they were waiting for the designs. The designs 810 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 4: came back horribly and they needed to restart them, but 811 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 4: they wanted to send references so they could copy the 812 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,240 Speaker 4: exact look they did want. So one of the amazing 813 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 4: writers on the show called me in one day and 814 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 4: he said, I want to show you something. He showed 815 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 4: me a drawing of Millhouse and he goes, this is you. 816 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 4: And because of the way that I look, and I 817 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 4: would wear shorts and a T shirt all the time, 818 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 4: and how Gian knows, he explained that they had been 819 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 4: taking photos of real people and sending those to Korea 820 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 4: so that they couldn't screw up the artwork. That they 821 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 4: just would mimic the photos and make that character. So 822 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 4: I was delighted that that happened. I get zero money 823 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 4: from it. But they just took images of actual people 824 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 4: and they were doing it to save the animation process 825 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 4: because they were so far behind. And then as a 826 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 4: tag to that, if you look at the early Simpsons 827 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 4: episodes of the artwork on the fridge that is supposed 828 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 4: to be of the kids is the horrible animation that 829 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 4: the Koreans are sending back because it looks like a 830 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 4: terrible kids drawing. 831 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: All right, So in twenty ten, Milhouse predicts who's going 832 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: to win the Nobel Prize, and what I can only 833 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: imagine was a very high stakes pool at school for 834 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: Milhouse and Homer. He predicted I can't even say the 835 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: guy's name, Banked Holmstrom from MIT as the winner of 836 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 1: the two thousand prize of the twenty ten Nobel Prize. 837 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: He also had in his pool Ben Faringa as a 838 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: possible winner in twenty ten. In twenty sixteen, Joel, both 839 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: of them won the no Bel Prize for their respective fields. 840 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: Explain yourself. 841 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 6: You'll see a gun approach from off screen as I 842 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 6: start talking again. This is that they're aside from gamblers, 843 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 6: the other thing the Simpsons is famous for is a 844 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 6: lot of nerds and super smart people. And my guess is, 845 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 6: because I can't recall any of this, that these people 846 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,839 Speaker 6: literally researched who are the leading candidates, just like I'm 847 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 6: sure Simon would, and like the odds and looked forward 848 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 6: on who's I don't know what the prizes were for 849 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 6: chemistry or literature or whatever, but I'm sure, they researched 850 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 6: these guys and who are the leading candidates or working 851 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 6: on developments, and took a swing. And again the names 852 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 6: are so obscure to morons like me that it sounds 853 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 6: funny when it's on TV regardless. And then I didn't 854 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 6: until this moment even though that they'd actually won. So 855 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 6: I have got some bets to collect myself. You deny, 856 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 6: There's a lot of a lot of stuff happens here, 857 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 6: and I just you can't keep trying of everything, you know. 858 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: That's like Simon when we were betting on the Pope 859 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: and we came so close because we had it like 860 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: all figured out that it was going to be someone 861 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: who wasn't of the top five candidates, who sort of 862 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: had the right profile, and instead of the guy from Chicago, 863 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: we went with the guy from France and we were 864 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: right there. 865 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 4: We could have written a Simpsons episode. Yeah, how could 866 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 4: you not pick the guy from Chicago? 867 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: I know, I felt terrible about it after it happened, 868 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: and we've discussed it aggressively. 869 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 6: Okay. 870 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 2: Our claim to fame is though we did Luckily the 871 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 2: guy we had on didn't mention his name, so we 872 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 2: weren't a total loss, but it was just it was 873 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 2: right there for me and Chat we totally missed on it. 874 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: I got very locked in on the guy from France. 875 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: I got locked in. I felt like a I just did. 876 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: I never thought it would be an American, but I 877 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: thought everything the American had was the right profile. And 878 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to be one of the guys who 879 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: went in, because it's never the person that everybody thinks 880 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: has the shortest odds as they go into the conclave. 881 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: So to me, it had to be someone who was 882 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: in Europe, had experience working in communities where immigration and 883 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: immigrants were a big factor, who could help expand the church, 884 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: and this guy in France because immigration in France was 885 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of it was Africans moving to France, and 886 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: so he had connections to the African community. Like Robbi 887 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: went deep and I just didn't see the dude with 888 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: the background in Peru getting into that spot. 889 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 6: You know, a lot of the cardinals were making calls 890 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 6: from inside the Vatican tipping off better. It's like you 891 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 6: guys on the outside, so it's kind of think, next, 892 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 6: here's the color of the smoke. 893 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't I didn't get any of those calls 894 00:47:53,160 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: Joel amazingly so yeah, Joe Cone, Rob Cone, Super Team Canada. 895 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: Everybody go watch it on YouTube. Everybody watch it on Crave. 896 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,280 Speaker 1: You guys crushed. 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