1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's de Velvet's 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson. All Right, when it comes 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: to astrology and love, I think most people they have 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: this perspective that it's just all about your sign and 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: who you're compatible with. Like, I'm a cancer, so I'm 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: the most compatible with X sign. I think it's tourists 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: or Virgo or Scorpio or something like that. You can 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: just google that stuff. But we have um the luxury 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: of having our favorite master astrologer. And I mean essentially 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: you're just like my spirit life coach. I feel like, 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: so we have you here to help us really understand 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: how astrology can affect our relationships, our love lives, the 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: energies that are happening with the planets, all of the things. Marv, 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: can you help us understand? I want to know mostly 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: why is astrology even helpful in this realm? Well, because 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: everything is energy, and astrology is the map of energy. 17 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: You know, when we when you say, oh, I'm a 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: cancer and I just met a an Aquarius, how do 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: I get along? I mean that's what everybody does. And 20 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: so you know, I can assure you there's nothing on 21 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: Google that would say you would ever get along. That's 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: exactly right, because there's certain signs that it will literally say, 23 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: do not date this sign or you will not be compatible. 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: And you're always like, ah, there's so much more to 25 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: it than that. Well, and that's exactly right. That's and 26 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: that's the um. That's the greater understanding of what astrology 27 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: really is is it talks about you, your journey, your soul, 28 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: who you are, what you're trying to become. I mean, 29 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: one of my master teachers used to say, uh, you know, 30 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: all people just want to know when am I going 31 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: to get my Winnebago in my next love life? And 32 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's pretty ridiculous when uh, an 33 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: astrology map can talk to you about your soul, your 34 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: past lives, who you are, and uh what what you 35 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: are trying to accomplish, uh, to become uh the significant 36 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: person that you can be, which is your son. So 37 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: your your your son is nothing more than your drive 38 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: for significance, your power, your creativity, your will, and uh 39 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: really that really isn't who you are. If people really 40 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: want to know, well, who do I get along with? 41 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: They'd be much better off knowing your moon side. But 42 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: because you would have to know an astrologer. Uh, you 43 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: ain't gonna be able to look your moon sign up 44 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: unless you can read a chart and pull up your 45 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: chart and find out where your moon is. Because your 46 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: moon is your ego. Your moon is your your your 47 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: complete uh bibliography of this life, last life, and the 48 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: forty other lifetimes you've lived. So it's all your it's 49 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: all your experiences, it's all your valuations, it's all off 50 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: your programming in this life. And um so, it's more 51 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: of the ego construction that is vitally important. Um So, 52 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: astrology separates all of that, and a good astrologer will 53 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,559 Speaker 1: be able to synthesize the whole chart as a gestalt. 54 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: I don't just look at a sun SiGe. I mean 55 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: I just glance over the sun sign. Who cares? Say? 56 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: This is just simply the energy you're using to become 57 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: you who you want to be. That's a sun sign. 58 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: You see. You call yourself a cancer, Well you're not 59 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: a cancer. You're more Pisces than cancer because Pisces is 60 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: your moon that's ultra sensitive. And then you say, well 61 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm a cancer. Well you're working to become a cancer 62 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: because you're utilizing the solar power and energy from a 63 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: cancer perspective and perception. So you see, um, you know, 64 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: we used to try to divide. You know, your sun 65 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: sign is uh x amount of percent of who you are. 66 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: The moon is xit pound percent, your rising sign is 67 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: another percentage. And I mean you know, as you dive 68 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: deeper and become more of a professionalist frologer, you'll find 69 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: out that it's all of it. All those energies make 70 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: a huge makeup of who you are, who you want 71 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: to become, and what you're what your life is about. 72 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: So why does that even happen then? Like I mean, 73 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: you know, all of the magazines like Cosmopolitan will release 74 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: all of these things in in the month of February 75 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: because it's Valentine's Day and they're like, oh, it's all 76 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: based on your sun sign. Actually it's like the cancer 77 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: goes well with this, or if you're a partner of 78 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: an aries, you should you know, expect this, or this 79 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: is how they would really receive love. And it's like 80 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: that's really just one tiny aspect. And what I hear 81 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,119 Speaker 1: you saying is that our moon signs are more um 82 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 1: are a bigger piece of the compatibility arena in general, 83 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: you see, because what they're doing is they're using the 84 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: modalities of each sign. They're using the elements of each sign, 85 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: and modalities and elements are friction oriented or easy um 86 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: to get along um so um. Fire gets along with fire, 87 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: water gets along with water, air gets along with air, 88 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: Earth gets along with earth. I mean, that's just Hey, 89 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: that's about as hugely simplistic as it can get. When 90 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: you know, see the astrology is a number two page, 91 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: red page in the of the newspaper. Everybody wants to know, wha, 92 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: what's my side? What's my pace? Well, and it's it. 93 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: It's it. It's so much more than that that, you know. 94 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: It just makes it more of a pap astrology and 95 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: a glamorous kind of thing. Oh well, I'm a I'm 96 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: a cancer. Who do I get along with it? Whoever 97 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: the hell you want? So it is? I mean, something 98 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: I have read is that this is similar to the angiogram. 99 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: I've leave if anyone is a big angiogram test person. 100 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: But it's not that you're necessarily not able to get 101 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: along with certain signs, like you can probably figure out 102 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: a way to get along. Correct me if I'm wrong, 103 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: But my understanding would be you can figure out or 104 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: you can work in certain dynamics with different signs that 105 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: it make quote unquote say you're not compatible with because 106 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: of all the other factors of their chart or as 107 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: a growth part of your personality. Is that accurate? Yeah, 108 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: and some are just gonna be worse struggles than others. 109 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: Let's let's think about this scientifically. First off, you're not 110 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: attracted to somebody because of a sign. Attracted somebody through 111 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: smell pharaohs, And if the pharaohs aren't there, well then 112 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: you're going to bypass them. You know. I'll tell you 113 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: a little story. Back in the day, when I used 114 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: to hang out with astrologers and and spiritual people, it 115 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: was mostly women. So I used to hang around a 116 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: lot of women and and um, we had this one 117 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: Virgo uh friend of ours. She had like four or 118 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: five planets in Virgo in the first house. And we 119 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: used a kid with her and joke with her. She was, 120 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of fun. But I mean, you know, 121 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: Virgo is very detail oriented, very dissecting, very uh opinionated 122 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: and judgmental, and it's uh critiquing of things he wrote down. 123 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: And because she wanted a relationship and we would kid 124 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: with her and tell her what she was going to get. 125 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: She actually wrote down twenty eight different characteristics of who 126 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: it would take to be with her, and then she 127 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: got we're laughing, and she goes and falls in love 128 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: with this all construction worker that needs none of the criteria, 129 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: and that she set out, well, this is what I want. Well, 130 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: this is what I want, and none of it mattered. 131 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: It didn't matter because she was because she felt the 132 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: magnetic attraction principles. You see, think about this for a second. 133 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: Venus and Mars is our relationship principles. Venus is is 134 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: the symbol for relationships. Okay, Well, wouldn't it be interesting 135 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: to know that Venus spins in a different direction than 136 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: every other planet in the Solar System? Would that peak 137 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: your interest? Yes? Only because I mean only because I've 138 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: worked with you though, and I understand how much impact 139 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: that has on the energy that surround us. Well, Venus 140 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: spends clockwise, every other planet and the Zodiac spends counterclockwise. 141 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: So all energy that's fading counterclockwise, all the other energy, 142 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: including the Sun is projecting out, are projecting inward. We're 143 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: pulling into ourselves all that energy with Venus spinning in 144 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: a completely backwards It's we are projecting out and what 145 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: are we projecting out? Love? Harmony, peace, joy, all in 146 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: our lives. So Venus is music, is bringing all the 147 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: happiness and wonderfulness into our life, and it projects outward 148 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: so that we can discover what we are. Uh. When 149 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: we radiate out, we're pushing out our consciousness. And when 150 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: we push stand out, UM, we're giving rather than expecting. Well, 151 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: that would be a different take on relationships, wouldn't it. 152 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: And then when you this leads to an evolution of 153 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: uh instead of involution, which begins to hit why spiritual 154 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: unfoldment of mankind is only possible through understanding and the 155 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: feeling of love. So Venus is a vibration of love. Now, 156 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: let's think about this. You're pushing out love into the world. 157 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: The Egyptian mythology around Venus was that it's Venus is 158 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: the sign of the scales. It's balanced, it weighs things. Well. 159 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: What the Egyptian mythology was is the human soul is 160 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: put on one side of the scale, a feather is 161 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: put on the other side of the scale, and if 162 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: the scale tips even slightly, the soul must return to 163 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: reincardinate with the goal of releasing the extra weight. Wow. 164 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: Uh so now we know that the journey of a 165 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: relationship is about us purifying as a person. Oh actually 166 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: love that because I think I mean, obviously I talked 167 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: about this pretty openly. I've been going through a breakup 168 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: and it's so hard, you know, and it's so painful. 169 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: And You've said to me a million times you can't 170 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: look at the relationship and be sad. You need to 171 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: look at it for the lessons it brought to your 172 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: life and how it's taking you to the next level 173 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: of your evolution, like you're saying. And I think we 174 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: can look at all relationships like that, Like it doesn't 175 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: have to even just be romantic. But what I hear 176 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: you saying is that that's our whole purpose here. So 177 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: even the mentality of like a relationship should last forever 178 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: that we have kind of it's gotten stuck in as 179 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: a society. It's like maybe, but maybe not, because maybe 180 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: it's taking you to this next journey that's then going 181 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: to take you to another relationship, to take you to 182 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: the next journey, then to take you to the next 183 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: and on and on and on. Wouldn't it let's pique 184 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: your interest even a little more. Mars is the energy 185 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: of desire. Mars is pushed out of us to go 186 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: out and get in this world what we desire. It's courageous, 187 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: it's independent, it's individualistic, it wants, it goes after, and 188 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: it's combative and aggressive and assertive. Okay, So when you 189 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: put that masculine energy together with the feminine energy, that 190 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: becomes the two attraction of pushing out of love and 191 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: getting what we want out of life. So you're saying 192 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: Venus and Mars because Venus, would you see the symbol 193 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: all the time when you see relationships, um Venus, Mars 194 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: has got that arrow pointing on the top of the circle. 195 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: Venus has got the cross in the bottom of the circle, 196 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: and that's the relationship symbolism. Well, that becomes a cycle. 197 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: That cycle has it's got a phase in it, and 198 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: it is a two year cycle. Ah. So relationship and 199 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: marriage and commitment is a two year cycle. Has nothing 200 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: to do with the Judo Christian society of I marry 201 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: you for a life. I have so many questions. I'm 202 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: sitting here you just because you've been married longer than 203 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: two years. So what's the explanation. So this is the explanation. 204 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: What if we committed to a person for two years. 205 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: We signed up, I'm signing up to be in a 206 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: relationship with you for two years, and at the end 207 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: of the two years, we can separate or we can 208 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: sign up for another two years. How would your relationship change. 209 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: Oh god, that's an interesting thought. I think that you 210 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: or for me, I don't think, um, well, if one, 211 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: I think you would look at like if you've got 212 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: in a fight, you would look at what you're bringing 213 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: to the table and what they're bringing to the table 214 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: that maybe doesn't work for you. You would maybe look 215 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: at what you could adju more um or learn um. 216 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: Knowing too that you're not stuck, and so it's not 217 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: like you have to make this decision of like, oh 218 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: that doesn't work for me. It's almost like staying curious 219 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: like um oh interesting that really bumps up against this 220 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: in me, and then making adjustments are deciding that's not 221 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: something you want and that you wouldn't do again in 222 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: the future. But you have an out in two years, 223 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: so you're not so there's not so much pressure on 224 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: like oh my god, you have to change this. It's 225 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: just it's like observation almost. Well, wouldn't the compromise be better, 226 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't win win situations be easier? Wouldn't understanding and accepting 227 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: of the person as an individual be a lot easier? Well, 228 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: this is who you are. There ain't no sense in 229 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: playing games because if you're playing games with me, well, 230 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: then in two years I'm getting the hell out. So 231 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: are you going to be a little bit better on 232 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: your best behavior? Are you going to try to understand 233 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: and them and and allow them to understand you at 234 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: your deepest sense of authentic self? Probably? So? M so 235 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: is that what you said, he got married? Hey, let's 236 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: try this for two years. Well, I'm just saying, I mean, 237 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: we we've got this Judo Christian concept of uh, we've 238 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: been married for eternity. What I'd like to know when 239 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: people start living a hundred years, who wants to marry 240 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: somebody for eighty of it? Right? Yeah, wait a minute, 241 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: let's make that contrary. I'll sign up for twenty, but 242 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: not I'll sign up for two, but not eighty. Because 243 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: we all unfold, we all grow, we all evolve, and 244 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: at some time, you know, there's a time and a 245 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: season for everything under the Sun. So a two year 246 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: relationship commitment is a pretty beautiful concept, especially when you 247 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: get stuck into the Judo Christian belief is this is 248 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. I know my first marriage, 249 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: I was questioning God, I mean, are you serious you 250 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: sent me here to be married for this woman for 251 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: the rest of my life. I don't think I can 252 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: do that. And at the seven year rich I said, yeah, 253 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, so you made it two and a 254 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: half cycles. Yeah, well I made yeah. So you see. 255 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: And the and the thing that is is we know 256 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: is as followers, the esoteric ruler uh is Saturn. Well, 257 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: Saturn is the taskmaster of the zodiac. So it's the 258 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: esoteric rule of liber of relationships. Well, I certainly, because 259 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: relationships are about challenge testing, to discovering the bond, to 260 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: seeing how we negotiate, to see how we come together 261 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: in the strength of that relationship. Oh, and that comes 262 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: up every three and a half years, seven years, fourteen years, 263 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: twenty one years, twenty four and a half, and twenty 264 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: eight if you're making if you make it thirty years, 265 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: you've done pretty good. By then they're no longer a lover, 266 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: they're a friend, and you care more about them, uh, 267 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: as much about them as you ever do yourself. That's 268 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: a nice concept. What is an esoteric ruler? Sometimes you 269 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: shoot stuff out and I'm like, oh what, well, I 270 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: know the words, uh, the ruler of Venus, the ruler 271 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: of libre as Venus. Well, there is a so that 272 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: we have rulers exalted. So Venus is exalted in Neptune, 273 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: a got a love, high heart, love, spiritual love. So 274 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: in other words, we have a general rulership of love, 275 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: joint peace, and happiness. And when it's exalted, it moves 276 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: up into that higher realm of a got a love. 277 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: Now in its fall, Venus in its fall is in Scorpio. 278 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: Why because Scorpio is so intense, so evaluating, probing, penetrating, digging, 279 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: wanting to use power and control to either dominate or 280 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: or you know, so that's not a very good place 281 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: for love, peace, joy and harmony. And then when it's exalted, 282 00:20:53,920 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: it's exalted in Libra. Because the test of relationship is 283 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: the test of you be purifying your own soul. So 284 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: the relationship is giving you that objectivity about who you 285 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: are as a person. When you push your love out 286 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: just how good, how much do you love is going 287 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: to be tested with relationships, and it's going to relationship 288 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: is of an entity of its own, So when you 289 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: become a partner with something that's its own entity, So 290 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: the relationship has a job to do of helping you 291 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: understand you, because you can't understand you on an island, 292 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: so you need to be objectified. And that's libra. Okay, 293 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm processing that a little bit. I also know you 294 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: We kind of mentioned this earlier when you were talking 295 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: about Venus. But everyone has a specific fixed sign in Venus, 296 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: right like we talked about sun signs, Moon signs, your 297 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: rising sign, and then you have in your chart a 298 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: sign in Mars, a sign in Venus. What does that 299 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: How does that play into all of this for us? Well, 300 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: each one of these UH planets are different kinds of energy. 301 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: You know that we have what we call personal planets, 302 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: We have social planets, and then we have higher octave planets, 303 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: which are the higher shocklas of higher consciousness. So when 304 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: we're talking about personal planets, your sun, as I talked about, 305 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: is your drive to be unique, um, your significance, your power, 306 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: your creative ability. The Moon a personal planet is your 307 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: emotional construction. M it's how you uh find security and 308 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: utilize self in age. The Moon is is uh your 309 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: unconscious self, It's your um, it's uh your experiences at 310 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: all of how you constructed your ego personality. Mercury is 311 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: never gets far away from your son. Well, this is 312 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: the energy of communication. Venus, the second planet up is 313 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: your love, joy, peace and harmony. So you've got your son, 314 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: you got Mercury, and then you got Venus. Those two 315 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: planets never get far away from the Sun. So the Sun, 316 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: your drive to be unique and special, has got your communication, 317 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: your thinking ability, your educational ability, you're relating ability, and 318 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: the Venus has your values what's important to you? So 319 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: and then Mars, which is outside of the realm of 320 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: the those three, the Marquy, Venus, and Moon. Well, Mars 321 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: is your drive for independence, your drive for uma uh, 322 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: your drive to be your own person. Be courageous, go 323 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: out and challenge the world, be active in the world, 324 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: action or in it. Aggressive. It's male, whereas Venus is female. 325 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: So Mars goes out to conquer the world, cuts it 326 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: all up, divides it in half, and surgically separates it all. 327 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 1: And they helped discovers themselves through evaluating what it is 328 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: that they're um that they're dissecting out their experiences. Well, 329 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: who's gonna put it together once they butchered it up? Venus? 330 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: That's right. Venus is feminine. Who who who nurtures us, 331 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: Who instills in us the confidence, who instills enough the 332 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: sense of rooted nous of being. Who who instills in 333 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: us that self image of who we are? That confidence 334 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: the feminine mother. So mother plays the role of um, nurturing, supporting, 335 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: giving you your security. And then father plays the role 336 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: of how he goes out in the world and makes 337 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: the makes the makes the money to come back and 338 00:25:54,760 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: feed you. But one can't live without the other because 339 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: when you take something apart, something's got to put it 340 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: back together. And that's the feminine. And we've been in 341 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: a world run by the mask killing for uh, let's 342 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: says right. So there's a dominance been in the world 343 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: between the masculine feminine. This is a male dominated humanity. 344 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: They think they rule. Well what are we doing. We're 345 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: shifting as women start taking their proper role and finding 346 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: their power of putting things together and relating and utilizing 347 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: the nurturance and fostering of growth. And so forth. Now 348 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: we're moving more into balance, and we're moving more into wholeness. 349 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: And this is why it's so important that the feminine 350 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: steps up and becomes just as equal shoulders shoulders any masculine. 351 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: M hmm. There's no specialness to a man's got to 352 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: be made helped, be made whole by a woman, doesn't. 353 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: Right behind every great man is a powerful woman in 354 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: that way, they say something like that. Yeah, I think 355 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: that it's interesting. I've been learning a lot about masculine 356 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: and feminine energy, so I'm really glad you brought that up. 357 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: But I do feel that shift happening, and I love 358 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: what you said about that the feminine is finding their 359 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: power because it's not the same as masculine energy. And 360 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 1: so I think like something I've noticed is that we 361 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: either try or as women. It seems like maybe we've 362 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: tried to go into the masculine energy as the quote 363 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: unquote way to power, and that's not really the feminine essence. 364 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: And so it seems like maybe there's a finally a 365 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: shift happening where women are understanding where their true power 366 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: lies and it is and that mothering that like that 367 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: um exhibition of love, the putting back together all of 368 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: those things that you said are where we as a 369 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: feminine energy have so much power and strength and can 370 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: really help the masculine energy. But I do see what 371 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: you're saying. It's like you need both to balance each 372 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: other out, and so you think that we're actually finding 373 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: some sort of harmony there finally, Well but yeah, but 374 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: let's look at it even another knoch up. Okay, you 375 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: you got a masculine inside of you. You got marks 376 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: in your chart, I've got a I've got a feminine 377 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: inside of me. I certainly have a venus in my chart. 378 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: So we all play a role um that we're all 379 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: both and it's got to be put together internally inside 380 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: of us. And when we put it together, well then 381 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: we are authentically can be whole. Now, the the the 382 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: what you're what we're working is um is yes, you 383 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: are projecting the image of a feminine okay, and so 384 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: you project the qualities of the feminine. I project the 385 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: qualities of a masculine. That doesn't mean we don't have 386 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: a balance inside of us. I mean most men, uh, 387 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: men don't cry. Men are tough? Men are this? Men 388 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: are that? Oh you know, a little boy falls down 389 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: and scuffs his knee and uh, mommy picks him up. 390 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: Oh you're all right, you're a tough guy. Or daddy 391 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: says it, and you know, men don't cry. And a 392 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: little girl falls down and say, oh, sweet little baby, 393 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: are you okay? You want me? Kiss? It? Make you 394 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: better see the difference in the way the culture treats 395 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: each one. But I think it's bullshit. Oh certainly it is, 396 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: because how many men, know why would have to work 397 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: with that need to learn to allow their feminine to be? 398 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: How many feminine men come in here and they feel 399 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: so guilty because they have these feminine feelings that are 400 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: dominating over the masculine, so they have to hide. They're 401 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: not even allowed to be they're true, secure, intimate, um 402 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: uh feminine self. This is why I back in my day, 403 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, everybody was google over a spiritual 404 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: man because you know, you're you're working with both energies 405 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: to be both energies. So I want to talk about 406 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: I think I'm still confused on what it means though, 407 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: because what it means when you have a certain like okay, 408 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: I have a Gemini in my venus, and so this 409 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: is obviously why I always recommended people to go to 410 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: an astrologer to actually fully understand how you operate in 411 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: the world, because to me, a Gemini in a certain 412 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: side would completely contradict everything else of my personality. So 413 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm really confused, actually, like I don't understand what that 414 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: means or how that plays into my life. Fully, I 415 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: just sit in sessions with you and you're like, this 416 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: is how this is working out for you. Well, well, 417 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: let's thank that for for a second. Let's how much 418 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: would you love just to have a friend and somebody 419 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: you could really talk to on an intimate basis, on 420 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: an emotional basis, and really communicate at the depths of 421 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: your being without being judged, criticized, or put down because 422 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: of the way you think feel an act important thing 423 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: that it's it's like the number one important thing. Well 424 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: how about that? Well, okay, anything. How many times have 425 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: I told you you need to be somebody that you 426 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: can really talk to, like the best friend you've ever had. 427 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: You're saying for me to be in a relationship with, Well, 428 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: that's your venus. That's where you get love, joy, peace 429 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: and harmony and happiness. So this is specific to a 430 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: Gemini in venus. Is that what you're saying? Yes, okay, yes, 431 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: And as astrologers, we look at women and we say, okay, 432 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: well you want to mars because you want a man. 433 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: And we look at men and we say, well you 434 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 1: want a venus okay, because we're always looking for that 435 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: polar opposite. Right, So there's another way that astrology looked 436 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: at the measurements of energy and says, okay, well that's compatible. 437 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: Well that may not be as quite as harmonious, so 438 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: you may have to work out issues around those kind 439 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: of conflicts. So would you look at my venus in 440 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: comparison to whoever I'm dating's mars? Yeah? Okay? Interesting? And 441 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: your mars is in what you're a sweet little old 442 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: libring Jim and I. All you want to do is 443 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: just talk and communicate, be understood, accept you for who 444 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: you are. How beautiful would that be? I'm just painted 445 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: your relationship. Okay, it's yours. Take it, get it, demand it, 446 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: Love you because you're a beautiful being. Why is why 447 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: did I say the other day that cancer you need 448 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: to love your cancer her. Quit being critical of your emotionalism, 449 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: Quit being critical of your deep and depth of feelings. 450 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: I mean you know how many people I get in here, 451 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: they're all in their head and they can't even feel 452 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: their heart. They have no feelings. So I say, well, 453 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 1: tell me how you love somebody in your head? Yeah, 454 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: well you can't. I have to love somebody with passion 455 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: and caring and depth and quality that can feel life. 456 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: That that when you get a when you're emotional, you're 457 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: you're processing those deep feelings of emotionality so that you 458 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: experience all the life at it's very depth. It's the 459 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: depth of being. Yeah. I try to talk myself out 460 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: of all of those things, but those are the things 461 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: that come really naturally to me. Well exactly, So why 462 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: would you be any different than that? And why would 463 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: you accept the relationship that didn't honor it? Yeah, don't 464 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: say yeah, Well, I mean I'm saying why would I 465 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: accept it? I think the thing that I or the 466 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: story I tell myself a lot is um that it's 467 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: too much, because it is. It is a lot for 468 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: a lot of people. As you said, a lot of 469 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: people are more comfortable living in their head and solving 470 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: things through that capacity. And so when I come in 471 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, but this doesn't feel right or whatever, 472 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: it is I'm saying, what, You're not having a relationship 473 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: with a lot of people. You're having a relationship with 474 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: somebody you want to be intimate with. Then to me, see, yeah, 475 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: well then they just need to understand who I am. 476 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: How about if I just accept you the way you 477 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: are and love you because you're emotional? Because your sense 478 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,479 Speaker 1: I got a cancer daughter, I know you trust me? Yeah, 479 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean she is. She has battled emotions for forty 480 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: years and she finally met the man of her dreams. 481 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: And you know why they're so compatible, and he's a Capricorn, 482 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: by the way, and you know why they get along 483 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: so well, because he says, because he lets her be emotional, 484 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: He lets her be, doesn't try to fix her, he 485 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: doesn't try to change her. And then she works it 486 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: through and processes that emotion through and she lets it 487 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: go and becomes all right, I can love you like 488 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: a cancer, But then again, cancer can smother your ask 489 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: too mean cancer, Yeah, but like everyone's like cancer, you're 490 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: so emotional or you know, like you sent me that 491 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: me the other day. Most people don't understand emotions, right, 492 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: so really it's stalls issue, Okay, exactly. I'm in total agreement. 493 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: That's the mentality I need to start having. It's just 494 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: because it's like, it's so frustrating to me because I'm like, 495 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 1: what do you Why is this too much? Or why 496 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: don't you understand this? This is so frustrating, And I 497 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: feel I feel my way through life a lot of times, 498 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: even when people are telling me things are different. I 499 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: can feel it in my body when they're not. And 500 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: it's so frustrating because I'll try to live from my 501 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: head or live through what they're saying, and it just 502 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: doesn't work for me. If it doesn't work in my body, 503 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: doesn't doing that doesn't work for anybody, right, because you 504 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: gotta be you? Right? How many times if I said 505 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: don't fall in love in a person, all love of 506 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: a person, explain what that means again? Well, when you 507 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: fall in love, you're looking for them to complete you. 508 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: So you now are into a power and control relationship 509 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: because I need you to be this so I feel 510 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: I feel happy and secure. Well, that don't work for 511 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 1: any side. But if you fall in love of a person, 512 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate your ability to go out and do what 513 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: you want to do in life and experience life and 514 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: share it with me. And double our pleasures and divide 515 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: our pains. And I just like the decisions you make 516 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: on the journey of your life. I think I want 517 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: to spend the next two years with you. Yeah, yeah, 518 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: that's I like that statement about I like the decisions 519 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: you make on the journey of your life because I 520 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: think I'm not a little incorrect. But if I'm in 521 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: love with you and I'm trying to control you too 522 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: so that I stay insecure, well then how the hell 523 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: can you pick you? How? How can they pick their 524 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: own independent, unique, dirty that's what's best for them and 525 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: when they do it. Anyway, now we've got a conflict 526 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: mm hm. And you have to decide, you know, do 527 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: you want to live in conflict or do you want 528 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: to have I try to just have an understanding. So 529 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: this brings me to the five phases of relationship. Ready, 530 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess I think. So? All right, hold 531 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: up your hand, which hand either one? Okay? Okay, that 532 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: big thumb right there, that's the attraction principle attraction of 533 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: the relationship. Okay, you're just attracted. Okay, So this is 534 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: like the beginning. This is like the beginning. Okay, oh 535 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 1: you I'm curious. I'd like to get to know you. 536 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: Can you know, I'd like, you know, maybe we go 537 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: out for date or a coffee or you know, just 538 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: so I can get to feel your energy experience you. Okay, Okay, 539 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: so that's pretty small finger ain't yeah that attraction. Don't 540 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: be nothing in that thumb. Okay, Now let's go. We're 541 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: gonna bump the relationship up to the the index finger. Okay, Okay, 542 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 1: that's uh, that's taken a leak. Now we're going to start, uh, 543 00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: this is the courtship phase. We're going to start evaluation process. 544 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: Now we're going to find out if we can be understood. 545 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: Now we're going to compromise, how we handle disagreements, how 546 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,959 Speaker 1: we negotiate our positions. Uh, we've got we're in other words, 547 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: we're preparing for uh the contract or commitment. Uh. So 548 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: we have to be really uh evaluate somebody. This is 549 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: where discrimination and discernment comes in. You know, I feel 550 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: good when I'm with you. Well, you know, you make 551 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: me you You're a little bit different, and I don't 552 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: really feel that, you know, that real strong urge and 553 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: connection to start bumping up to the middle finger, which 554 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: is now, which is now courtship. So here's courtship. I 555 00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: thought this was courtship. No, yeah, I'm sorry. Attraction courtship. No, 556 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 1: attraction is the thumb. Yes, infatuation. Infatuation is the thumb. 557 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: Courtship is the attraction. Infatuation, and then courtship. Courtships your 558 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: your birding. When we're infatuated, we're dating and we're evaluating, 559 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: we're doing, we're getting, we're discriminating, right, okay, But then 560 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: when we move into the courtship phase, this is where 561 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: we got to start agreements and disagreements. What an interesting 562 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: finger for that? Well, so this is how do we 563 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: handle compromise and negotiate our positions. We're getting ready for 564 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: commitment a contract. I want to know you on a 565 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: partnership or a contract kind of basis. I'm going to 566 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: commit to you and sign a contract with you. Well, 567 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: then I have to understand how we're going to interact 568 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: with each other and our roles. Okay, Then we go 569 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: to the ring finger, and now we're into intimacy because 570 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: when you slide on that rang, this isn't no contract anymore. 571 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: This is into me. See, So is that where that 572 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: tradition started? That's right now we're into energy exchange. Now 573 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: we're into I know you at your depths, you know 574 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: me at my depths. I'm allowing you to be you 575 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: or I need to control you, whatever it is. But 576 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: that intimacy has to be really the internal feelings about 577 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: the relationship and feeling understood. And then finally, when all 578 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: of those are done, you get the little peaky finger, 579 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: which is commitment. Mm hmmm. So we need to go 580 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 1: through all of these phases, every single one of these 581 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: to get to commitment. And that's when you're deciding. Like 582 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: you said, you go through the two year Venus and 583 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 1: Mari cycle, it's like do you want to do another cycle? 584 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: And then it's over and over and over again. So well, 585 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we can state the Judo Christian. 586 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you're committing for you know, how long we're 587 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: in love, how much I love you. But I mean, 588 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, as being a man that's been married for 589 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: let's see seven seventeen twenty four, almost fifty years, eventually 590 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: becomes a friendship that moves into the high heart where 591 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: you care as much about that person as you do yourself, 592 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: and to give to that person brings more joy than 593 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 1: anything you can do for yourself. So that's ultimately where 594 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: you go. That's really sweet, marks it is. I feel 595 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: like that's what everyone would want, but we miss it 596 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: a lot of times well because we got to go 597 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: through the phases of a relationship. We've got to understand 598 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: each other. We gotta learn how to care. I mean, 599 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: I've got to learn how to handle your emotions when 600 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: you get upset. You see, women above all hate to 601 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: be fixed. I hate it all right, So if you 602 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 1: get emotional, I'm just supportive and saying, you know what, 603 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: I know you can get this figured out. Mm hmmm. 604 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 1: And then they just want to believe, be believed in. 605 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: I can go out and make it for his honey. 606 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: I can build the hope's dreams and wishes that we 607 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: both share and walk together. And if you just believe 608 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,919 Speaker 1: in me, I'll work my heart off. But this goes 609 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: back into what you're saying about. Really loving someone is 610 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: accepting who they are, trusting the way that they or 611 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: believing in the way that they approached their own journey, 612 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: and like loving that about them versus trying to change 613 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: it to make yourself feel secure. Yea. And if you 614 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: can't do that with somebody, that's probably not the right 615 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:44,359 Speaker 1: partner for you. That's right, got it? So astrologers evaluate, 616 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: you know. And I just had this with a client 617 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:54,280 Speaker 1: last week. Uh. He uh came in with a person 618 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 1: that you know, he said he was really infatuated with. 619 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: I said, okay. And so I looked at her chart 620 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: and I looked at his chart, and so I said, well, man, 621 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: you only have two energies connected. There's not a lot 622 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 1: of energy here. I know she's sexually attractive and you 623 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 1: want to get together with it and all of that, 624 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: but I'm telling you this is not going to be 625 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 1: a relationship that carries a lot of energy. Wow. Now, 626 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: and then he shows me another ladies chart, and I says, 627 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: you have five connections. See the difference. They're connected on 628 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: an intimate basis. They're connected on a friendship and talking 629 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: basis and in the ease of communication and an understanding. 630 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 1: So that would be the one that's probably gonna last 631 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: long term or has long term potential. Well, I just 632 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: told him, I said, well, you know what, Uh, this 633 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: one is a good working relationship. Don't mess it up 634 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 1: trying to get into an intimate situation. The one with 635 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: the five energies, no, one with the two business relationship. 636 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: But he wants to He's a typical man. He wants 637 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: to bump it up one. Wait a minute, buddy, you're 638 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: gonna lose a very good business relationship if you do that. Well, 639 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: there's that's how astrology helps. Yeah, I didn't tell him 640 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 1: not to do it. I'm just telling him what the 641 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: energy is dictating is going to be. And I could 642 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 1: show him the difference between one that's very energetically connected 643 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 1: and one that isn't, and he could see it. It's real, 644 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,439 Speaker 1: it's tangible. He can understand the commitment. So we look 645 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: at we look at the energy connections. I want to 646 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: know what how many energies are connected in your chart? 647 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: And then I'm going to look at the phase willation 648 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: JEP of venus marks. There's eight of them. What do 649 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: you mean there's eight of them? Well, there's eight phases 650 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 1: and a cycle. Oh wait, you know that big thing 651 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: wheel behind my your where you sit when you come 652 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: see me? That's the cycle and eight phases of the 653 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 1: sun moon. Okay, oh you've showed that to me. Yes, 654 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 1: and so can you walk us quickly through what that 655 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: means for the people listening? Well, a new phase is 656 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: the beginnings. A crescent phase is where you're trying to 657 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: move away from what was into that new new beginning 658 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,760 Speaker 1: and ideal. A first quarter phase is where you're actually 659 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: trying to put it into um physical form. The gibbest 660 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 1: phase is where you're now taking it out and sharing 661 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: it and interacting with other people. The full phase is 662 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: now how you're seeing it as an objective UH in 663 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: accordance to how being it's being mirrored back to you 664 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 1: from other people. That's the relationship phase. And then in 665 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,720 Speaker 1: the disseminating phase is how you go out and share 666 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 1: what you've learned from applying that and putting that idea 667 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 1: ideal into the world. Third quarter phase it's now getting 668 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: the accolades, but also turning towards another future because everything 669 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 1: you've you've accomplished the goal, you've met your agenda, so 670 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: now it's time to start new. So you're now got 671 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: to go into a balsamic phase, which is the state 672 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: where the soul and the imagery UH works in your life, 673 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: to dream state where you get a new goal to 674 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: start out the new phase. That's why there's no beginning 675 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 1: and no end. Yeah, this is what the moon cycle 676 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: is right, Well, it's what it's all site of the 677 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,879 Speaker 1: all planets that work in planetary pairs, and so that's 678 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: what we look at. So we look at the sentistry, 679 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: how your energy matches up with their energy, and then 680 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: we look at the composite, which is your two energies combined. 681 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 1: That says where you've been before and how the relationship 682 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 1: has been in the past. Because we're all connected, there 683 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: is no separation and you've had that relationship before. So 684 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 1: now the relationship, remember when I said is its own 685 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: entity now has to begin to work through each of 686 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: you say that a different way. I don't fully understand. Well, 687 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: in other words, you grow because of whatever, um whatever, 688 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: the relationship, the two of you coming together. Yeah, you 689 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: told me my ex boyfriend was my brother in a 690 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,760 Speaker 1: past life and I was like, oh, gres don't feel 691 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:27,879 Speaker 1: like one. I don't know, I'm not there yet. No. Well, 692 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: so this is why I always recommend to people to 693 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,720 Speaker 1: come to an actual astrologer. And I've said to you before, 694 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: and we've done this with past relationships. For me is 695 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 1: I just send you their birthday. And there's all these 696 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 1: funny memes out there. They're like, if she's asking for 697 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 1: your birth time. Like if you if it's like a 698 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 1: mom coming from a mom, if the guy is asking 699 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 1: for his birth time, she's like, oh, get away from 700 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 1: that girl, because that means she's like running your chart. 701 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 1: But like the reality is it actually does matter. And 702 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: like what you just said with your client, this guy 703 00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,040 Speaker 1: coming in, I mean you're able to help him a 704 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: cern between two relationships that he really might be more 705 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: compatible with another person because of all the energies that 706 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 1: are in line. And I just think that's so interesting. 707 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,839 Speaker 1: And that's not really anything we could find out on 708 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 1: our own because we don't understand how to read our 709 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: whole chart. Well, the one thing is is we can 710 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 1: read two we we typically read two different charts. The 711 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: chart with your time is an ascended chart that tells 712 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 1: us where the horizon was at the moment of your birth. 713 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 1: This is your instinctual self, your instinctual presentation. This is 714 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 1: you don't think about it, it's just how uh, you're 715 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: a You're a scorpio, so you project the scorpio um 716 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: persona out into the world. Okay, if I don't have 717 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: your birth time, well then I just run a solar chart, 718 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 1: which is the chart of your son and how you're 719 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 1: drive for significance, your power, your creativity, and your will 720 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 1: is now of who you are. So you know what 721 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,359 Speaker 1: until we had computers or up to you know, many 722 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: years ago. I mean you know, if you ever ask yourself, 723 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 1: why is there a time mark down and when you're 724 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: when you're born? I know of no other reason than 725 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: an astrology chart. Oh interesting, Yeah, what does it matter? Yeah, 726 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: what does it matter? So, but the other thing is 727 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: is um and I'll leave you with this. Venus and 728 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: Mars right now is in a balsamic phase. We are 729 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 1: all and will be in a new phase come April six. 730 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what that means. That means you 731 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: have been through two years of interacting with the relationship 732 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,879 Speaker 1: and whatever you didn't like about that relationship is time 733 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: to reconcile and let it go. Mm hmm. So, whatever 734 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: the conflicts were, whatever the frustrations are, now is the 735 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 1: time to come to terms with it and let it go. 736 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: Balsamic is letting yesterday's go. Whatever you don't let go, 737 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: you will be dealing with the next two years of 738 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: the Venus Mars cycle. So if you don't like it, 739 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 1: let it go, because you don't want to have to 740 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 1: keep doing it well. And it's not just let go 741 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: of the person, it's let go of the conflicts. I mean. 742 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,360 Speaker 1: So what you do in a balsamic phase of Venus 743 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,799 Speaker 1: mars is you evaluate what have you learned in the 744 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 1: last two years of this relationship a tremendous amount. You've 745 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 1: learned a lot about yourself. You've learned a lot about 746 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,720 Speaker 1: how you would prefer to have a relationship in your life. 747 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You've learned about what what is attractive to you? 748 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: What is what is joy, love, peace and harmony for 749 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 1: you compared to what isn't you See. So there's a 750 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:21,359 Speaker 1: whole lot of stuff you've learned, and that's what you're uh, 751 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 1: that's the that's the gift that relationships give us. So 752 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 1: when you say let it go, you're really saying, notice 753 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,359 Speaker 1: what patterns don't work in your life? Notice, um, what 754 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: you do want, even like the kind of communication that 755 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: works when you're actually feeling truly authentically you and it's 756 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,879 Speaker 1: working and you're thriving or how um Yeah, the positives, 757 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 1: take those with you, take the lessons with you, but 758 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: also leave old patterns behind so that you're not just 759 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: recreating them. Even if it's in another relations well yes. 760 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: And then final analysis, when you learn to take responsibility 761 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,399 Speaker 1: for everything that ever happened in your life, you can 762 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 1: take responsibility for your side of the conflict, and then 763 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 1: you can start using the uh infatuation lesson of learning, discernment, 764 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 1: and discrimination. What I do want to participate in? What 765 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't? What I know will work for me, what won't? Yeah, 766 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need somebody to gas like me 767 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: because I get a little tipsy with emotions, tipsy with emotions. 768 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 1: I should make a T shirt that says that that's 769 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 1: my gift. Do you that tipsy with emotions? Hashtag Kelly, 770 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 1: I don't know alcohol. I don't need alcohol. I'm just 771 00:57:51,720 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: tipsy with emotions. There you go. Wow, Oh man, if 772 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 1: that that's probably the title of this podcast, she with emotions, Guys, 773 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: she's coming watch out. Well. So this is fascinating. So 774 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 1: April six the big day for us, and really be 775 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 1: paying attention to your relationships. Also, I do think if 776 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: you guys really want to understand how your love life 777 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: that the signs you would be compatible with it's way 778 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: bigger than googling. If you can't tell from this podcast, 779 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 1: there's so much more than just your son sign that's 780 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 1: going to play a role in how your relationship dynamics work. 781 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 1: Is there anything else you would say to the people 782 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to love and relationships and astrology, Marv, Well, 783 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 1: you know it's not. It's not. It's not about not 784 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: being in the relationship with the person you're in with. 785 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 1: It's about you discovering you. And that's the real truth 786 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 1: of what astrology helps you do. I love that. Yeah, 787 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: And so you know, we all go through conflicts. In 788 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 1: twenty five years, I've had a plethora of them, but 789 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 1: I take responsibility for everything that I create and I 790 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 1: grow from it. And when I when I when I 791 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 1: learned my motivation and intention. I mean, how many times 792 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 1: have I said, look, you've been accused of something. You 793 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 1: look into your heart and say, did I have a 794 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 1: motive there? What was my intention that they're accusing me of? 795 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: And if it's there, then take responsibility and say, let 796 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 1: me commit to change, let me commit to a choice. 797 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 1: And if it's not there, you say, that's your ship, 798 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 1: not my ship. You go work it out and come 799 00:59:53,280 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 1: back when it is discernment discernment and discrimination there a yeah, 800 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Well that's all we can do, I think and love 801 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 1: too is I mean, we obviously draw in the relationships. 802 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 1: We draw in for a reason and not for punishment. 803 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: I used to hear that as a punishing statement, but 804 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: for me, it's been what we've talked about a lot 805 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 1: with the mirror, Like I think certain things about myself 806 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: or I have certain unconscious messaging happening, and so I 807 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 1: usually will draw in the person to bring that full 808 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 1: force to my face so that I have to face 809 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,440 Speaker 1: myself and I have to work through whatever internal messages 810 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 1: that person is bringing into my consciousness because a lot 811 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 1: of times I'm just unaware. And so it does serve 812 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 1: a very significant purpose in my growth, in my process. 813 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 1: And there's always something for me to own in all 814 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 1: of it. There really is, And I can see that 815 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 1: um as a reality, so very helpfulne And there's nothing 816 01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: more truthful than feelings and emotions. Yeah, nothing, because they're honest. 817 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: If it's an emotional and it hurts, you need to 818 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:12,479 Speaker 1: understand why. And when you understand it, it doesn't hurt 819 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: half his bad And a feeling feelings is moment the moment. Yeah, 820 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 1: feelings pass, those are the only truths. Brain. Yeah, man, 821 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 1: do we try to think our way through some stuff. 822 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't. I don't think I love you. 823 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm damn sure I love you. All right, Tell the 824 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 1: people where they can find you if they want to 825 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: come get a reading, because you know there might be 826 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people listening who you You also do 827 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 1: virtuals by the way, guys, but if there might be 828 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people listening who are like WHOA, I 829 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 1: don't understand anything about how I would or who I 830 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 1: would be drawn to, why who I'm compatible with? So 831 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 1: they might want their chart read? So where can they 832 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 1: find you for that? Well? Even how to get the 833 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 1: relationship to be better in alignment with who they are? Right, 834 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 1: if you're currently in a relationship and understanding and you 835 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 1: want the partners exactly, well, then grow within yourself. And 836 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 1: that's that's what I would prefer to help people do. 837 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 1: Grow within themselves. And so they can reach me at 838 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 1: Marvin or they can reach me at astro marv dot com. 839 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 1: They go to the website and then they can also 840 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 1: email me at Marvin at astro marvs dot com. Okay, 841 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,920 Speaker 1: and you guys, it really is helpful. I said this 842 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 1: every time I talked to Marv, but to understand your 843 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 1: chart or to have someone kind of reading through it 844 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,640 Speaker 1: with you is a game changer. It truly is for me, 845 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 1: so I highly suggest hitting Marv up. I'll put all 846 01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 1: his contact info in the description of this podcast. Marv, 847 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,439 Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you for helping us understand it's way 848 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 1: more than a Google search to understand our compatibility or 849 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 1: our energies with another person. I think it's super important 850 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: it is. Well, we'll talk to you again soon. Thanks 851 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,439 Speaker 1: for being here. Thanks for listening to the Velvet's Edge 852 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 1: podcast with Kelly Henderson, where we believe everyone has a 853 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 1: little velvet and a little edge. Subscribe for more conversations 854 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 1: on life, style, beauty and relationships. Search Velvet's Edge wherever 855 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.