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Speaker 2: In this Tuesday Dan and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick
Speaker 2: Show had some phone calls coming up.
Speaker 3: Changed the pole question.
Speaker 2: Last night some basketball, The Joker had nineteen assists to
Speaker 2: go along with eighteen points and nine rebounds as the
Speaker 2: Nuggets beat the Pacers. He has career single game highs
Speaker 2: of fifty six points, twenty seven rebounds in nineteen assists,
Speaker 2: the only player since the merger to have those numbers
Speaker 2: on his resume. Will Chamberlain had twenty one assists in
Speaker 2: a game. Of course, he averaged fifty points one season,
Speaker 2: and I think had fifty five rebounds.
Speaker 3: It's different.
Speaker 2: Although I was wondering about this that we tend to
Speaker 2: look at Will Chamberlain's numbers with an asterisk because of
Speaker 2: who he's playing against. Right, Babe, Ruth, We don't have
Speaker 2: an asterisk about who he was playing with because he
Speaker 2: played before integration. But we did that to Will Chamberlain.
Speaker 2: I mean, Will can only play against whoever's guarding him.
Speaker 2: It's not his fault, you know, the evolution of basketball,
Speaker 2: he was ahead of the curve by a significant amount. Also,
Speaker 2: he had fifty five rebounds. In a game against Bill Russell,
Speaker 2: It wasn't going to matter who he was up against.
Speaker 2: He was going to dominate them. Now, was he a
Speaker 2: better team player than Bill Russell? He was not, because
Speaker 2: the resume shows that. But do we use the same
Speaker 2: analogy or asterisk with Jim Brown? Jim Brown with what
Speaker 2: he was doing in the early sixties, mid sixties, who
Speaker 2: was he going against? Was it similar to the athlete
Speaker 2: that Will Chamberlain was going against when he was dominating
Speaker 2: in the early sixties to mid sixties. Got to be fair,
Speaker 2: there are certain sports that were very very territorial about right,
Speaker 2: we just are baseball your territorial. What happened in that era,
Speaker 2: what happened you know, steroid era, post steroid era, what
Speaker 2: happened with pitchers starting pitchers? The way pitchers are? You know,
Speaker 2: we everybody kind of battle lines are drawn. Football it's
Speaker 2: a different game now. Defensive players, offensive players, What you
Speaker 2: can do? What you can't do? This quarterback's better than
Speaker 2: that quarterback. Who's better than that quarterback? This running back
Speaker 2: couldn't have played in today's All of that basketball very territorial.
Speaker 2: You know, Bob Coosey couldn't play now, well, Bob Coosey
Speaker 2: would evolve and if he was skilled enough then maybe
Speaker 2: he would be playing. Maybe he would be a John
Speaker 2: Stockton like player. Maybe he would you know, be somebody
Speaker 2: of that ILK. So I think we get caught up
Speaker 2: sometimes where we pick and choose. Wilt dominated the way
Speaker 2: Babe Ruth dominated, but we don't give Wilt the credit
Speaker 2: for the numbers that he put up. How many times
Speaker 2: have somebody said, hey, you know how many World Series
Speaker 2: times Babe Ruth has? Right, doesn't come on when you
Speaker 2: use it for an argument, Jordan, Yeah, six, never lost, Okay,
Speaker 2: but Bill Russell had eleven. Well but well, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: you just told me that that's the bottom line.
Speaker 3: It's winning championships here.
Speaker 2: That's why we think Russell is better than Wills because
Speaker 2: of the championships.
Speaker 3: So we pick and choose, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to your point, I think that's the big thing
Speaker 4: in the NBA. We measure somebody's greatness. Boy, how many
Speaker 4: championships they have the NBA players, NBA great players, in
Speaker 4: NFL quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: That's how we measure success.
Speaker 4: Like yesterday, most people don't know how many World Series
Speaker 4: I mean at World Series Stanley Cups, Wayne Gretsky has
Speaker 4: or Mario Lemieux, But we know how many championships Bill
Speaker 4: Russell has, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird. That's how we measure greatness.
Speaker 4: So he would be higher. If he had the eleven,
Speaker 4: he would be Michael Jordan, he'd be Babe Rutha. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if you had all those championships, because people were going
Speaker 4: to say, Will Chamberlain did all that, and how many
Speaker 4: championships does he have? The center next to you has eleven,
Speaker 4: So I think that's what brings him down a notch.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we pick and choose to strengthen our weaken an
Speaker 2: argument here, I understand it. It's just I think you
Speaker 2: got to be fair to who who was doing what
Speaker 2: and at what timeframe, what period, And Wilt dominated dominated,
Speaker 2: but it didn't win the same number of titles anywhere
Speaker 2: near what Bill Russell did. Okay, Bill Russell was nowhere
Speaker 2: near the offensive force that Wilt was. He was every
Speaker 2: bit the defensive player and then some and a great athlete.
Speaker 2: But we don't say, yeah, but who was Bill Russell
Speaker 2: playing against? Wasn't he playing against the same guys who
Speaker 2: were plumbers and electricians that JJ Reddick pointed out, like,
Speaker 2: you gotta be fair and we lack context. Now, Babe Ruth,
Speaker 2: they didn't play against any African American players, but we
Speaker 2: you know, we co sign on his numbers.
Speaker 3: I got man greatest player of all time.
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, but context, and I think that's where we
Speaker 2: have to be fair to the numbers that are being
Speaker 2: put up, even today's NBA numbers, they're going to dwarf
Speaker 2: some really really good players the eighties, nineties, early two thousands,
Speaker 2: like these numbers are it's crazy. Every night, how many
Speaker 2: players put up triple doubles now, I mean Joker put
Speaker 2: up nineteen Like, oh, by the way, that's the second
Speaker 2: most assist in NBA history for a center. The game
Speaker 2: is easier for him. But once again, you have people
Speaker 2: who are going to look at him and go, yeah,
Speaker 2: but he's not Shack, he's not a chem he's not
Speaker 2: I understand all of that, but we're going to pick
Speaker 2: and choose.
Speaker 3: Oh, he only won one title.
Speaker 2: Okay, Wait a minute, is it about titles? Is about
Speaker 2: stat Like, what's it about here? Joker is the best
Speaker 2: player in the world. Now, he's the best player.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I think when Ben Yama is going to be hopefully
Speaker 2: he's healthy, he'll be the best player Jannis used to be.
Speaker 2: When's the last time Jannis's name came up?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Take him for granted. Em Bead's name comes up because
Speaker 2: he can't play anymore. Joker, you just take him for granted.
Speaker 2: You get to a certain point where how do I
Speaker 2: reinvent myself? It's almost like a band who's really good
Speaker 2: and then they have the drop off and then they
Speaker 2: have the comeback, or the actor or actress who is
Speaker 2: really popular, and then all of a sudden they have
Speaker 2: the drop off and then they have the comeback.
Speaker 3: I don't know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Joker could maybe win another title, but we pick and choose,
Speaker 2: which I find interesting in our arguments here. But all
Speaker 2: I'm asking is context, because there are people who still
Speaker 2: won't acknowledge Joker is brilliance.
Speaker 3: They won't, and.
Speaker 2: It's almost like he had he flukeishly won three MVPs
Speaker 2: and they want a title. It's not a fluke. It's
Speaker 2: not it's not exciting. You know, you may not like it,
Speaker 2: not your style about I love it. I love it
Speaker 2: because it's basketball, and it doesn't mean I don't like
Speaker 2: watching John Morant or Anthony Edwards or whoever you know
Speaker 2: is athletic. But I do love the science of basketball.
Speaker 2: I like watching a game within a game. I think
Speaker 2: it's fast, fascinating. Now, look, today's players so much better
Speaker 2: than ten years ago, twenty years ago. Yes, of course
Speaker 2: they are. That's the evolution of being an athlete. Joker,
Speaker 2: that's not an evolution. I could plug him in in
Speaker 2: the fifties and put it in black and white and
Speaker 2: you'd go, man, that guy is that George Mikeen be like, no,
Speaker 2: that's the joker.
Speaker 6: Last two seconds in today's games.
Speaker 3: You're right.
Speaker 6: He mu't even be like see, but guys like you
Speaker 6: could never play like that now. That's why it's ridiculous
Speaker 6: to even compare errors. You can never play like that
Speaker 6: was the most dominant guy ever.
Speaker 2: But if if he played in the sixties, we'd be like,
Speaker 2: you know, fast forward to now and we'd be like, now,
Speaker 2: look at that. You can't he never survive in today's NBA.
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Paul Jokichi's first MVP year, he averaged twenty six ten
Speaker 7: and eight. He's up to twenty nine, twelve and a half,
Speaker 7: ten and a half, much improved. All his percentages are up,
Speaker 7: his three point percentages up everything's up.
Speaker 2: Ricky Fowler and the stars of the PGA tour heading
Speaker 2: through Florida.
Speaker 3: The bear Trap.
Speaker 2: That'll be this weekend Saturday and Sunday on NBC in Peacock.
Speaker 2: All right, see what's pull question that will have?
Speaker 6: Well, I don't want to take this one down because
Speaker 6: it's been so entertaining.
Speaker 3: Okay, is this the Green Bay Packers?
Speaker 6: The Green Bay Packers today are heroes or zeros. Right
Speaker 6: now we're up to fifty three percent zeros.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's really.
Speaker 6: It's gone back and forth a dozen times today and
Speaker 6: right now this is the largest zero's lead that we
Speaker 6: that they've had.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 2: Congratulations, Congratulations. By the way, I mentioned this at the
Speaker 2: end of last hour, the Hornets accomplished something over the
Speaker 2: last two games that hasn't been accomplished since nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 2: They lost to the Kings last night. They've now lost
Speaker 2: their last two games by combined ninety five points. That's
Speaker 2: the worst two game point margin since the Pistons lost
Speaker 2: back to back games by ninety five points in nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty six.
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Speaker 3: It was a special moment for me.
Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy seven, Pete Maravich set an NBA record for
Speaker 2: most points scored by a guard. He had sixty eight
Speaker 2: points against the Knicks. Now you can go to YouTube
Speaker 2: and you can watch the game. I watched the entire game, Pete.
Speaker 2: I think fouls out in this game. He could have
Speaker 2: easily had eighty points like he did. He missed some
Speaker 2: shots that he really should have made, Like it's hard
Speaker 2: to nitpick. You got sixty eight, but you know he
Speaker 2: could have had and there's no three point shot. Once again,
Speaker 2: all of those numbers that he put up. I think
Speaker 2: at the end of his career. They had the three
Speaker 2: point shot when he was in Boston, maybe, but you know,
Speaker 2: he didn't take advantage of it with all the scoring.
Speaker 2: And he wasn't a great player in the NBA. I
Speaker 2: think he was a fascinating player in the NBA. He
Speaker 2: was so far ahead of his time. But I just
Speaker 2: remember that, you know, the Knicks had nobody to guard him,
Speaker 2: and they had Walt Fraser at the time and Dean Meminger,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he put up sixty eight Yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 7: He was going against Bob McAdoo, Earl Monroe, Tom McMillan,
Speaker 7: Walt Fraser, Bill Bradley, Phil Jackson, Dean Memager. That was
Speaker 7: some of the knicks. The Pete Merrivitch was twenty six
Speaker 7: of forty three that game. He also had sixteen free throws.
Speaker 7: He had six assists, all right, and he wasn't just
Speaker 7: hogging it.
Speaker 3: You go beate.
Speaker 7: His next closest teammate scored twelve mo Howard.
Speaker 3: Moe Howard out of Maryland, that's right, and played with
Speaker 3: Tom McMillan at Maryland and Otto Moore port in ten
Speaker 3: auto more. Yeah sixty eight dang and no three point shoan.
Speaker 3: But all he was known as is was a gunner.
Speaker 3: But he was, I mean, he was a true gunner.
Speaker 3: But when your dad is your coach, and you know
Speaker 3: he's not being told not to shoot, but you got
Speaker 3: to be real good if your dad's gonna coach you
Speaker 3: and tell you that you can have the green light.
Speaker 3: He was able to shoot as much as he wanted to,
Speaker 3: and the energy it takes to be a great score
Speaker 3: is underrated. That's why I was always amazed at Kobe
Speaker 3: Mike Iverson every single night.
Speaker 2: You got to get thirty. Like you have to get thirty.
Speaker 2: They know you have to get thirty. The defense is
Speaker 2: geared towards you and just the energy it takes every
Speaker 2: single You know, there's always a guy an outlier. He'd
Speaker 2: be like, hey, put up twenty four. I could probably
Speaker 2: do this every night. No, you probably can't, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 4: So the crazy thing about Pete Maryrivich, him and Patrick
Speaker 4: Ewan might be the two guys where they're all time
Speaker 4: first ballot Hall of Famers in the NBA, but they
Speaker 4: might be more famous for their college career. Is anybody
Speaker 4: else in that category where you're at first ballot Hall
Speaker 4: of Famer, top fifty, top seventy five player, but you're
Speaker 4: you're iconic in college.
Speaker 2: Bill Walton, although I and you know I love Bill,
Speaker 2: he wasn't a great NBA player. He played great at times,
Speaker 2: he just wasn't healthy. I didn't think he was one
Speaker 2: of the top seventy five players. I think he's one
Speaker 2: of the top five college players of all time. It's
Speaker 2: just he had the magical year with Portland. The following
Speaker 2: year I think they were fifty and ten, he got
Speaker 2: hurt and he was really never the same and he
Speaker 2: got a title six Man of the Year with Boston,
Speaker 2: but I didn't think the resume was there. College he's
Speaker 2: one of the five best that I ever saw, but
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, that's a couple of them in there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, poll it's not at the same level. But Christian
Speaker 7: Lahner in the pros had five different seasons rareag eighteen
Speaker 7: or more points. He was not a bust. But he's
Speaker 7: totally known for Duke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he still played. He was not a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer no NBA. But once again, they have the
Speaker 2: Basketball Hall of Fame. That's where it's different, whereas the
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame. Somebody who's a first ballot
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer in the NFL, and but they're better.
Speaker 2: They were better known for their college careers. We could
Speaker 2: use that the same analogy for a different sport, right Marvin, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm with you completely, because after I saw Dino Raja
Speaker 4: and Vladi Deva get in Bloody Devac. They were fine
Speaker 4: NBA players, but they were more known for what they
Speaker 4: did internationally.
Speaker 2: Like Sharonis marshal owas correct, he's in also, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: did like him. They eurostep ye crazy?
Speaker 3: Now did he give us the euro Step.
Speaker 4: I think, so that's a travel I'm watching NBA inside stuff.
Speaker 4: That guy keeps traveling.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's not fair, yes, Paul.
Speaker 7: According to a few different websites, Genobili and Sharon's Marcellonis
Speaker 7: eurostep inventors.
Speaker 2: All right, like the Europeans. You know, Dirk gave us
Speaker 2: the step back. Need to your chest umper like moves
Speaker 2: down through history the skyhook is Kareem the crossover who
Speaker 2: gave us the crossover? Tim Hardy Hardaway. Tim Hardaway Hardaway
Speaker 2: was like he was mean spirited. He would give you
Speaker 2: the crossover and he gave you the forum to give
Speaker 2: a little separation to shoot that ugly jump shot of his.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Paully, I've got this whole website on the history
Speaker 7: of the Eurostep. You guys will nerd out on this.
Speaker 7: It first appeared in the media in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 7: when it started getting a real term. Tony Kukos did
Speaker 7: it in Europe before he joined the Bulls. When he
Speaker 7: joined the Bulls, he tried it and got called for
Speaker 7: traveling number of times he had to retire it couldn't
Speaker 7: do it.
Speaker 2: Well, wait a minute, there were guys before him though,
Speaker 2: before Shroach wasn't Marshall Onis in the NBA before Tony.
Speaker 7: Checking, but Shrewoness and Genobli got away with it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if feels like they were all around
Speaker 2: the same time.
Speaker 7: Sharunas joined the Golden State Wars in eighty nine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so when was Tony?
Speaker 7: I know a Coucos triedent and got called so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well Kuk coach would have been after that.
Speaker 5: Yeah he was after that. The ninety two Olympics.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 5: Pippin and Jordan were not nice to hear.
Speaker 3: That was bad. They euro stepped all over him.
Speaker 5: Bloop bloop.
Speaker 3: Uh let me take a break. I got it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I got some numbers here. Oh, I got some
Speaker 2: Tom Brady numbers here. Everybody wants to get rid of
Speaker 2: the tush push. I got some Tom Brady quarterback sneak numbers.
Speaker 2: Get rid of the quarterback sneak. Tom's too good?
Speaker 3: Had that for you?
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Speaker 2: Here's something Tom Brady was great at the quarterback sneak.
Speaker 2: He has a ninety percent conversion RADO and quarterback runs
Speaker 2: on third and fourth down at third and fourth and
Speaker 2: one garden since two thousand ninety over ninety percent of
Speaker 2: the time, and he led the league in quarterback sneaks
Speaker 2: from one to twenty nineteen. He had eighty five more
Speaker 2: than Drew Brees, who was second on that list. So
Speaker 2: the quarterback sneak with Brady and the Patriots ninety percent
Speaker 2: of the time. Now, it's not the tushpush, but it
Speaker 2: is almost automatic ninety percent of the time.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody says, hey, that's not fair, Well,
Speaker 2: they can't because it's a quarterback sneak. The problem with
Speaker 2: the tush push is the person behind Jalen Hurts. I
Speaker 2: think Philadelphia would still be successful, maybe not as high,
Speaker 2: but pretty close to the same success rate if they
Speaker 2: didn't have the player behind Jalen Hurts. I think that's
Speaker 2: what bothers people. Jalen Hurts with his size, his strength,
Speaker 2: and that offensive line. If you look at the overhead
Speaker 2: picture in the Super Bowl first touchdown scored on the
Speaker 2: two push, Chris Jones is lined up sideways, so he's
Speaker 2: got his linebacker pushing him. I don't know what he's
Speaker 2: doing because you're not putting any pressure up the middle
Speaker 2: on the center, and that's where he got his neck hurt.
Speaker 2: And no wonder he's lined up to the side and
Speaker 2: they just basically ran through him like a toll gate.
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't I mean, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: they're just like JJ Watt said last Dame, or you
Speaker 2: can't stop it. Although would that give me pause if
Speaker 2: I'm the commissioner, Because if the commissioner, if JJ Watt said, Hey, Commissioner,
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about the touch push,
Speaker 2: And if the commissioner said, hey, you know, what would
Speaker 2: you do? Well, you can't stop it. So this is
Speaker 2: coming from an all time first Battle Hall of Famer
Speaker 2: said you can't stop it? Is that enough to change it?
Speaker 2: Modify it? And I know everybody gets up in arms.
Speaker 2: If Philadelphia wasn't successful as a team, we wouldn't care
Speaker 2: about this. They outlawed the dunk because Leuel Sindor was
Speaker 2: so great. They got rid of the dunk. They got
Speaker 2: rid of the dunk with Wilt Chamberlain because they were great.
Speaker 2: They weren't breaking a rule other than hey, that's not fair.
Speaker 2: They said to Leuel Sindor, you can't dunk. We're not
Speaker 2: gonna let you dunk.
Speaker 3: The rest of us supposed to get up there. See
Speaker 3: on fair advantage.
Speaker 2: We're only six feet one. We can't get up there.
Speaker 2: I'm a nice layup, Chris, layup. Imagine that. They're like,
Speaker 2: uh no, you can't. We're going to take that away
Speaker 2: from you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this overhead picture from the super Bowl
Speaker 2: and Chris Jones is asking to be hurt.
Speaker 6: But he's clearly trying to write, like JJ Watt said,
Speaker 6: with how low they get, right, they have the advantage
Speaker 6: because of that. Yeah, I'm guessing Chris Jones, well, he's
Speaker 6: clearly trying something different. I'm guessing he's trying to beat
Speaker 6: them to that spot so they can't get low, right,
Speaker 6: He's trying to beat them.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing. I have absolutely no.
Speaker 6: Idea, but I'm guessing he's trying to get lower to
Speaker 6: take away that advantage.
Speaker 3: But he has no power because he's going sideways.
Speaker 6: But he still has power, it's just driving in a
Speaker 6: different way.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: But I know what you're saying. I totally know what
Speaker 6: you're saying. I'm just trying to understand. He's clearly trying something.
Speaker 6: It clearly didn't work, but people are still trying to
Speaker 6: find ways to stop this.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: I'm sure there's I don't know exactly what the purpose was,
Speaker 6: but it seems to me like he's trying to beat
Speaker 6: them to a spot or to get lower first.
Speaker 2: The only thing I could see where the commissioner would go,
Speaker 2: I don't want players jumping over the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: I don't want that to happen, and they don't. No
Speaker 3: rules really benefit the defense. Nobody's going to care.
Speaker 2: But if you say, you know, how do we get
Speaker 2: rid of the tush push, well, we don't want defenders
Speaker 2: leaping over when really what you're saying is nobody wants
Speaker 2: to watch this anymore. Okay, two of the most successful
Speaker 2: teams this year were the ones who did this more
Speaker 2: than anybody else by a large margin, Buffalo and Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: It's just we have a problem when somebody does something successfully.
Speaker 2: If James Harden wasn't one of the great scorers of
Speaker 2: all time, we wouldn't really care if he did his
Speaker 2: step back take a step back jumper, we wouldn't care.
Speaker 2: Manu Jenobili's a Hall of Famer. The euro step that
Speaker 2: lay that's not fair and he's not even European. But
Speaker 2: don't let that stop you. It's when you're good at something,
Speaker 2: then we want to take could away from you. If
Speaker 2: you're not successful, nobody's going. Ah.
Speaker 3: You know what do you see that guy? It seems
Speaker 3: like he's traveling the whole time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the South America step doesn't work. You know, that
Speaker 7: doesn't work as a phrase.
Speaker 2: Eurostep more smooth, Yeah, Sharona's martial Onis was he would
Speaker 2: have been.
Speaker 3: Euro Ish, right, extremely Soviet Union.
Speaker 5: We don't.
Speaker 3: We don't consider them Europe though.
Speaker 7: I think we do. Eastern Europe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Eastern Bloc.
Speaker 7: East Coast.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's Europe. I don't know, is it.
Speaker 7: This is the most I think.
Speaker 11: We have Eastern Block bias. That is what's happening.
Speaker 7: Oh okay, thank you. This is the most dam Patristowe
Speaker 7: conversation ever. Where's Russia is?
Speaker 3: Is Russia considered Europe?
Speaker 5: Yes, because then it would be Asia if it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Hmmm, well they feel like they're on an island now, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 7: This is interesting. Russia is a bit of a hybrid country.
Speaker 7: Russia is considered to be both part of Europe and Asia.
Speaker 3: Uh hah.
Speaker 2: Once again, the guy with a two point two grade
Speaker 2: point average comes through again, Todd.
Speaker 7: I have two thirds of Russia being approximately in Eastern
Speaker 7: Europe and one third in Asia. It's a transcontinental country.
Speaker 2: Okay, back to you.
Speaker 5: You had a geography class that day.
Speaker 3: I did love history geography.
Speaker 2: My basketball coach was my history teacher, so I had
Speaker 2: to really love that class.
Speaker 3: Never missed it.
Speaker 2: My playing time could be could be altered always. You know,
Speaker 2: that's where you sit up front in the class, where
Speaker 2: all the other times in class, I'd sit in the
Speaker 2: back like I have no interest in this, and I'd
Speaker 2: be front and center. Yes, yes, yes, sir mister Hopkins.
Speaker 2: Yes yes Marv.
Speaker 5: Now just raising my hair like you would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes I am Mesopotamia.
Speaker 3: I know all about it. Eight were eighteen twelve and
Speaker 3: eighteen twelve.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they had an overture, they didn't they hear
Speaker 2: it coming?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 11: Is that why they find the top basketball coaches? They
Speaker 11: go to the history teacher. You know what you might
Speaker 11: want to look into also coaching the basketball team. He's
Speaker 11: so good at teaching history. I bet you'd make a
Speaker 11: great basketball coach.
Speaker 3: You know, they have to teach their teachers.
Speaker 11: Like what happens first though, Like you're the basketball coach
Speaker 11: and all of a sudden you gonna take your hand
Speaker 11: to history or the history teacher, and someone's got.
Speaker 3: To coach you have a teaching degree.
Speaker 11: It just seems kind of interesting that the history.
Speaker 2: Was this small school that I went to and they
Speaker 2: had all of Like the baseball coach he coached bath.
Speaker 11: I think the gym teacher maybe would coach the basketball
Speaker 11: team was supposed to like someone teaching geometry or history.
Speaker 3: And what was your great point average when you were
Speaker 3: in high school?
Speaker 11: Something in the three nine football. I'd ask my physics teacher,
Speaker 11: you mind coaching the basketball team. I'd go to him
Speaker 11: before I'd go to or her before having him.
Speaker 3: Nobody questions you're going to stay with the bed.
Speaker 11: Nobody questioned that your coaching basketball team or the history teacher,
Speaker 11: what are you doing here?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: What what could he know about basketball? The history teacher, well,
Speaker 2: he probably went.
Speaker 3: To college and then he was going to be a teacher.
Speaker 11: Sah. But if he's all in on teacher history, I
Speaker 11: don't know he has time to write up extras and
Speaker 11: o's on a decent level.
Speaker 3: Where they need we needed coaches, like we just didn't.
Speaker 11: Have a warm body to blow the whistle.
Speaker 2: You're gonna stay with us being the great high school
Speaker 2: athlete that you were.
Speaker 11: Yeah, second team behind second team.
Speaker 2: We saw you with paddle ball. By the way, By
Speaker 2: the way, is it on? I hesitate to bring this up.
Speaker 2: In the words of Paulie, when we go to the
Speaker 2: draft in Green Bay, there apparently will be a pickleball rematch. Okay,
Speaker 2: then Seaton, is it it is a rematch? Officially? Yes, okay,
Speaker 2: Because I was gonna I was gonna offer up another.
Speaker 5: Idea.
Speaker 2: Okay, like at four nations were going four nations.
Speaker 6: I'm currently booing the front row. What it we could
Speaker 6: do if back row? Front row wasn't juicy, we could
Speaker 6: do left side, right side. There were a lot of
Speaker 6: accusations made and a lot of credit given, whereas Marvin
Speaker 6: is very much seen as the weak link of the
Speaker 6: front row and Todd was very much seen as the
Speaker 6: overwhelming dominant force of the back row. Something I take
Speaker 6: slight umbrage with, Okay, is this Marvin and Todd versus
Speaker 6: you and Paul No, that would be me and Marvin
Speaker 6: versus Todd and Paul.
Speaker 2: Okay, hmm, see Marvin, I never understood you're left handed,
Speaker 2: but you picked up the pickleball paddle and used your
Speaker 2: right hand and it looked like you were you look
Speaker 2: like Ben Simmons trying to shoot.
Speaker 4: Yes, some of the backroom guys, I started doing pickle
Speaker 4: ball with the left hand, and some of the uh
Speaker 4: camera guys are like, you're left handed.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, maybe I should have done it
Speaker 4: with my left but it wouldn't have made it any better.
Speaker 5: We would have scored maybe one more point.
Speaker 3: Okay, So are you guys up for those teams?
Speaker 5: I'm up for anything.
Speaker 3: Okay, So PAULI, you and Fritzy whatever you guys like
Speaker 3: Seaton and Marvin just throwing it out.
Speaker 6: There's an option.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me give you this some thought, because Fritzie
Speaker 2: is not the best athlete, but he was the best
Speaker 2: pickleball player all.
Speaker 3: But a rematch with different points.
Speaker 2: But Seaton was the second best pickleball players.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but they were like, we're like, it's not a rematch,
Speaker 6: it's like a rema restructuring red the whole thing and
Speaker 6: then we'll do the match.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a restructuring match.
Speaker 6: We might have too. We could maybe run him back.
Speaker 6: We might have more time to play with here.
Speaker 2: All right, maybe we get back room guys with the team,
Speaker 2: front room guys with the team, just in case there's
Speaker 2: an injury there.
Speaker 7: You can altern it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but.
Speaker 2: When we go to Green Bay, the place we're going
Speaker 2: to do our show from has pickleball courts.
Speaker 3: Okay, twenty year.
Speaker 11: Olds against the forty and fifty year olds, that's all all.
Speaker 3: Are you afraid? Are you afraid by a dog?
Speaker 5: Same uniforms?
Speaker 6: He said, Well, he was the best player, he was
Speaker 6: the runaway MVP.
Speaker 3: And he's already nervous that he's got the.
Speaker 11: Back room guys involved that, like you know, they're like
Speaker 11: barely twenty years old.
Speaker 6: A couple of others, the Lebron Jeans of Dan Patrick's
Speaker 6: show pickleball.
Speaker 2: And he's trying to act like you're gonna complain about
Speaker 2: the schedule like Lebron's been doing.
Speaker 11: I should hang it up before the back room guy.
Speaker 12: That is so you So you hang up your pickle,
Speaker 12: hang up your balls and your pickle.
Speaker 2: You did this when we played wiffle ball, and you
Speaker 2: were great. And then all of a sudden, I haven't
Speaker 2: heard anything about the elbow. Did some kind of owner
Speaker 2: and I have not heard anything. There's no doctor job,
Speaker 2: No Tommy Johns like you were like, oh, I kick.
Speaker 11: A ball racket I had in my left hand. I
Speaker 11: pulled something in my right elbow with the.
Speaker 2: I know, but you didn't go back and play wiffle
Speaker 2: ball again.
Speaker 11: I didn't. I was afraid to reinjured.
Speaker 3: You were one and done.
Speaker 11: I had to get an m right.
Speaker 3: Are you going to be able to play pickleball in
Speaker 3: Green Bay Planter?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 11: Okay, but if I got to wrap it up and oh,
Speaker 11: oh my god, that with ice and gauge pads, gauge
Speaker 11: pad whatever, I don't know, if something you know, something
Speaker 11: that's leaking at it's not.
Speaker 3: You're not bleeding.
Speaker 11: I think I'll be fine.
Speaker 3: Okay, are you guys sure you want to do this?
Speaker 5: I am for sure.
Speaker 7: Okay, PAULI sounds like fun. That's a good content.
Speaker 3: Okay, gotta bring your uniforms.
Speaker 2: Oh or if you want to get new uniforms, we.
Speaker 7: Could get ye shoes.
Speaker 5: I think I left them.
Speaker 3: No, you did not leave your pickleball shoes.
Speaker 13: Those were those are great. Your mister tennis shoe not
Speaker 13: on purpose? Well, I don't know that Marvin got those
Speaker 13: pickleball shoes. It was like, man, I can't wait to
Speaker 13: wear these out socially, really.
Speaker 5: The arch specifically for pickleball.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I know, man, I got a million outfits
Speaker 6: there exactly with these pickleball shoes.
Speaker 2: All right, I miss I misjudged you, Marvin Madras shirt.
Speaker 3: I misjudged you. I thought you'd be like, you know
Speaker 3: these are these are rare.
Speaker 6: I can't wait to wear these out with the fellas. Yes,
Speaker 6: he said, Hey, Marvin, are those specifically pickleball shoes you're
Speaker 6: wearing out right?
Speaker 12: Now?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 11: Game?
Speaker 3: Yay?
Speaker 5: Yeah? The arts?
Speaker 3: Yes, don'ate the player, hate the shoes? How's your art?
Speaker 5: Just feeling right?
Speaker 3: Hey, Marvin?
Speaker 4: When I'm hanging out with guys name Nice and Goo
Speaker 4: and Jordy, like I'm calling by my last name? Oh, Prince, Oh,
Speaker 4: where you give them shoes from the.
Speaker 5: Mallwalk?
Speaker 3: Do they show men shoes where you got that? Prince?
Speaker 2: Yo?
Speaker 3: What up? Yo?
Speaker 5: Hello?
Speaker 3: What is up? Hey? Fellows?
Speaker 6: Hi?
Speaker 2: I'm Marvin. I've got pickleball shoes on what todd?
Speaker 11: They're not gonna le him play any reindeer games. You
Speaker 11: don't want to have any guy like that anywhere near,
Speaker 11: because why don't you stay home and maybe a couple
Speaker 11: of weeks when you change your shoes, you can come
Speaker 11: hang out with us. They can't be seen. That's why
Speaker 11: not raising my hand in the contribution being put on
Speaker 11: the spot.
Speaker 2: Oh so it's my fault that I called on you? Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, that's on me, emy. How about we take
Speaker 2: a break here?
Speaker 5: No, that was good. No, we're here, come on rematch pardue.
Speaker 6: Yeah is that a renotch? It's like re hyphen mat Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: but it's still rema. I think we might have an audience.
Speaker 6: We might have fans who will show up for the locals. Yes,
Speaker 6: the locals are going to show up for this when
Speaker 6: we go up there for the draft.
Speaker 11: Yes, tell that pickleheads and stead jeez has, how does
Speaker 11: that work?
Speaker 3: Are all right? You're rallied a little leap into the crowd.
Speaker 3: How about we.
Speaker 2: Take a break here, o, lambeau leap with your pickle.
Speaker 2: Be careful, be careful, take a break. Well, we're back
Speaker 2: after this.
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Speaker 3: That show went by quickly.
Speaker 2: We'll try to sneak in a few more phone calls
Speaker 2: here at eight seven to seven three DP show. You
Speaker 2: have the Maps Lakers in Los Angeles tonight. So it's
Speaker 2: not a question of who's going to win, but by
Speaker 2: how much? Because the Lakers they have their full roster.
Speaker 2: The mAbs do not have Anthony Davis.
Speaker 7: Yes, Paul, How big of a story would a loss
Speaker 7: be tonight by the Lakers one day perception story?
Speaker 2: Well, because it's the Lakers, it'd be big. Yeah, anything
Speaker 2: with the Lakers. You know, it's like things are bigger
Speaker 2: in Texas. That's not the case. It's things are bigger
Speaker 2: with the Lakers.
Speaker 7: The weird win game.
Speaker 5: Yes, mar wait O contre Montfrayer.
Speaker 4: Okay, I told you the most dangerous NBA teams are
Speaker 4: teams that do not have their best player.
Speaker 5: Spencer Dunwiddie is looking to put up some shots tonight.
Speaker 2: Is anybody taking the mAbs outright? Exactly? I'll get the
Speaker 2: line is nine and a half. You want the mAbs
Speaker 2: in nine and a half tonight? I don't where's the game, la?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So that put an end of the I thought everybody was, Oh,
Speaker 2: you can't row what the mounts? Okay, Paul, you were
Speaker 2: the one that was leading the chart.
Speaker 7: I don't believe it. Yeah, my first ballot.
Speaker 11: Yes, uh is it new as if the Lakers winning
Speaker 11: a squeaker or it goes to overtime, where it's strictly
Speaker 11: it's only a big deal if they actually lose the game.
Speaker 3: It's the Lakers.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how much they win, or if they lose,
Speaker 2: or if they squeak by or they win by fifteen,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's still a story, doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: Are you new to this game? It's called content.
Speaker 2: It's how do we do something in mid to late
Speaker 2: February that somebody's gonna care about. Oh, the Lakers Shadoor
Speaker 2: Sanders not throwing at the comp I told you, I
Speaker 2: warned you this was going to be a headline that
Speaker 2: shard Door Sanders not throwing at the combine. Context, the
Speaker 2: first round quarterbacks last year didn't throw.
Speaker 11: At the combine.
Speaker 3: It's not a big deal, but it's shud Or Sanders. Yes, Tod,
Speaker 3: I still think.
Speaker 11: If the Lakers only win by a couple or so,
Speaker 11: I'm just curious to say, how big a deal it's
Speaker 11: going to be if they win by.
Speaker 3: Like four, How big a deal do you think we'll
Speaker 3: make it tomorrow.
Speaker 11: We'll make it a bigger deal than it needs to be. No,
Speaker 11: we won't be your mothership.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, because they all els fails, then you just
Speaker 2: go to the Lakers. Oil's fails. It's the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: Yes, your warriors are giving seventeen and a half to
Speaker 7: the Hornets. That's a monster spread.
Speaker 2: Well, the Hornets just lost back to back games by
Speaker 2: combined ninety five points, so they're due for a company
Speaker 2: they are. I'm going to take the Hornets to win
Speaker 2: out right, I'm glad you give up be Oh by
Speaker 2: the way, anybody in the room on the other side, oh,
Speaker 2: a pie to the face Marvin does.
Speaker 11: Todd, Oh, I think we never did that, bronco.
Speaker 3: On, Well, that means you still do you do? You
Speaker 3: think we didn't do it? Or we didn't Yeah, I think.
Speaker 11: We're supposed to doing like before break in a day. Way,
Speaker 11: you think quite sure that I'm due for something?
Speaker 2: Okay, that was what I was just That's all I
Speaker 2: was asking. The audience wants to know if I'm letting
Speaker 2: you guys. You know, squeak pine.
Speaker 5: Marvin Weather's pretty nice this week.
Speaker 3: I'm mean, okay, all right, it's it's Pie weather.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I just was going to be out there in
Speaker 5: twenty degree weather taking a pile of the face.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, so weather permitting, weather permitting. I
Speaker 2: like to Todd's like, I think we got.
Speaker 11: The pilate face already a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Something here that just maybe I do pie to the
Speaker 3: back of the head. Oh no, it's something different.
Speaker 7: Can we bring back.
Speaker 3: The surprise pies? That was really that.
Speaker 5: Was the peak.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: I thing has never been better or even remotely as
Speaker 6: good as when pies would just randomly hit you in
Speaker 6: the face.
Speaker 2: But that's you lost a bet and you you were
Speaker 2: owed five pies.
Speaker 3: I think it was five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I didn't have to tell you when I
Speaker 2: was going to give you the pie, right, And I
Speaker 2: remember Seaton walked out of the uh.
Speaker 6: I would just like come out of the bathroom, or
Speaker 6: I would come out of the box and they're like
Speaker 6: confessional thing or just randomly turn a corner. And oh,
Speaker 6: that was as good as it got.
Speaker 2: And then when we went to the Super Bowl in
Speaker 2: San Francisco, and I lured you outside and JJ Watts
Speaker 2: smashed you in the face with a pie.
Speaker 11: He got me.
Speaker 6: Then you lorded me outside and I was pelted with
Speaker 6: the cupcakes.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Coach Harbaugh hit me in the face with one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was kind of the best. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Todd thinks he has a ply coming to
Speaker 2: him and Margaret and Mark. Marvin knows that he has
Speaker 2: a pie. Jamison in Colorado, Hey Jamison, thanks for holding
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 8: P DP six foot also not going to be showing
Speaker 8: at the combine. First. First off, I just wanted to
Speaker 8: say a happy February to Marvin and to James in Virginia,
Speaker 8: but also wanted to pick up on comment at the
Speaker 8: Paul Ahead in the first hour regarding NBA in Las Vegas,
Speaker 8: and I lived out there for quite a while when
Speaker 8: there was no pro sports out there, and all the
Speaker 8: locals we all wanted a pro team of our own.
Speaker 8: But you may recall that NBA All Star Game that
Speaker 8: I think was two thousand and seven. People outside of
Speaker 8: Vegas may not have known this, but there was it
Speaker 8: was a disaster. There was a huge criminal element that
Speaker 8: showed up to Las Vegas but frankly, it was like
Speaker 8: the bloods and Crypts, And of course the NBA kind
Speaker 8: of unfairly was associated with it because they don't have
Speaker 8: anything to do with that. But locally out there, the
Speaker 8: people were just like, we don't want any part of
Speaker 8: the NBA, and we kind of felt like we had
Speaker 8: known our chance of getting.
Speaker 2: A Yeah, but and I appreciate that, Jamison, but you know,
Speaker 2: you've had the All Star Game out there, the Summer
Speaker 2: League out there, you have the NFL, you have baseball.
Speaker 3: You know that was a long time ago in seven.
Speaker 2: To be fair to the city of Vegas, but they've
Speaker 2: already had relocation projects from Oakland with the A's and
Speaker 2: the Raiders. Would they be in line for the Dallas
Speaker 2: Mavericks if that was truly a story that if they
Speaker 2: don't get gambling in Dallas or Texas, then you know
Speaker 2: they'll ask to relocate to Las Vegas. I don't see
Speaker 2: this commissioner doing that, but I've been wrong many times before.
Speaker 2: Find of results of the Pole question.
Speaker 6: There Seaton O'Connor, Well, this has been quite an emotional
Speaker 6: journey today, this Bole question. Today, the Packers are, unfortunately
Speaker 6: for Packers fans, fifty six percent of them as zeros
Speaker 6: rather than heroes. They started out the day with a
Speaker 6: strong heroes showing, but now they just can't fight those
Speaker 6: tides any longer.
Speaker 3: There are a bunch of zeros today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they narked to the NFL and the toush Bush
Speaker 2: absolutely On this date nineteen sixty four, Muhammad Ali stops
Speaker 2: Sonny listing Lewiston, Maine.
Speaker 3: He was Casher's clay.
Speaker 5: At the time.
Speaker 3: That was nineteen sixty four. What did you learn on
Speaker 3: today's show? Todd.
Speaker 11: Jj Watt doesn't see the tush push as particularly dangerous
Speaker 11: as the Eagles old line and jail and hurt strength
Speaker 11: and make it work more than the actual place.
Speaker 6: Seaton jj Watt about to become a new father this summer.
Speaker 5: Marvin jj Watt is bilingual.
Speaker 7: Oh what a Bengal question Mark.
Speaker 3: Look forward to talking you tomorrow. Thanks for joining us.