Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football Touchdown jackonbel Touchdown
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Speaker 1: His name is Tony Boselli. His name is Pete Prisco.
Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up in the program today. Bucketeers twenty
Speaker 1: eight Jaguars eleven will recap this football game all the
Speaker 1: way through a quarterback change at halftime and now beyond.
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew will be the quarterback this coming Sunday against
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. Doug Maron announced it today. The
Speaker 1: defensive depth tested yesterday. We'll see how those guys stepped
Speaker 1: up and played social media questions. They are piled up
Speaker 1: today at AFC South Review. I guess the Jags are
Speaker 1: out of the race and around the National Football League.
Speaker 1: That's all coming up with the biggest news today, of course,
Speaker 1: the change of quarterback. Gardner Minshew will be the strutter
Speaker 1: this week after coming in at halftime against the Bucks
Speaker 1: yesterday and finishing the game. Doug Maron said it on
Speaker 1: his conference call today, but boy, that first half guys
Speaker 1: six possessions, three turnovers three three and ounce no juice
Speaker 1: at all in the stadium in the first half. Now, listen,
Speaker 1: it was as bad a start as you probably could have. Uh,
Speaker 1: coming off the three losses in the division, coming home
Speaker 1: for the first time, and with thirty five days, thirty
Speaker 1: eight days, whatever it was, you was London and the
Speaker 1: bye week, we're in there, and to start the game
Speaker 1: the way you did offensively, I mean, it was it
Speaker 1: was just it was surreal as far as the lack
Speaker 1: of energy in the stadium, which you can't I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not on and we set it before you had.
Speaker 1: I mean, the fans are ticked, they're unhappy, rightfully so,
Speaker 1: and so it's not on them. And and we talked
Speaker 1: about it that it's imperative for the players to come
Speaker 1: out and create the energy and get things going. And
Speaker 1: they did not. And it started. It starts with the quarterback, uh,
Speaker 1: Nick Foles and how he performed, and it just kind
Speaker 1: of trickled down throughout the rest of the offense. Defensively,
Speaker 1: they hung in there. You know. Yes, they gave up
Speaker 1: twenty five points in the first half, but a bunch
Speaker 1: of turnovers. One of those was to pick six fumble
Speaker 1: return scoop score. So it's really eighteen points you gave up.
Speaker 1: But still it's uh and it's not just a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean the offensive line I think probably had their
Speaker 1: worst day in my opinion. Uh. If you if you
Speaker 1: heard Doug Morone today, Pete, you're with us all right?
Speaker 1: High Pete? How are you? Um? I'm good. By the way,
Speaker 1: they might be the worst team in the league right now.
Speaker 1: The worst they might be. You can make a case
Speaker 1: for it. How so, well, what do they do well?
Speaker 1: Do they do anything? Well? Um m hm, well they
Speaker 1: have did you put it that way, Pete? DJ harks
Speaker 1: you know top five and something in the a f
Speaker 1: C and Leonard Ford they catch they catch the ball
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. Well, it's like number two rushing
Speaker 1: in the FC or maybe what are they doing well
Speaker 1: right now? As do we? As we speak of right now? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you have to be doing something.
Speaker 1: Happy if you have asked you as you were stumped
Speaker 1: you have you're stumped again, I'm not stumped. I'm just
Speaker 1: thinking through to have a precise answer before I give
Speaker 1: it to you. I mean, what's Leonard for that they
Speaker 1: can punt well? Logan Cook's having a great year? There
Speaker 1: you go, Okay, Leonard for Dad's leading the anc and rushing?
Speaker 1: Is he still he's close there? Let me check? So
Speaker 1: you have what do you have yesterday? Leonard yesterday had
Speaker 1: thirty eight yards rushing on fourteen carries. What are they
Speaker 1: doing well right now? But he also had fifty three
Speaker 1: yards receiving on nine catches. What are they doing well
Speaker 1: right now? Um? It's fair. I mean when you lose
Speaker 1: four in a row the way they've lost four in
Speaker 1: a row, nothing is going right and nothing is very good.
Speaker 1: But I mean I think you, I mean, you look
Speaker 1: at boy. This is I don't even I don't even
Speaker 1: want to say this. But if you look at say
Speaker 1: a number of teams around the NFL who aren't being
Speaker 1: a aren't performing at a high level right now? I mean,
Speaker 1: what do the Bengals do well? What do what an
Speaker 1: adult better at quarterback? Right now? Yesterday? I get that
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but is there anything If you're the Bengals,
Speaker 1: you're hanging your hat on right now. Probably not Tony,
Speaker 1: but this team can't hang its out on anything right now.
Speaker 1: That's I agree with you. When you're losing, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's the reality. At least one yesterday, Dophins one yesterday.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins won yesterday. Yeah, Redskins. I understand that just
Speaker 1: because you win one game, or lose one game, or
Speaker 1: lose four in a row like we have is good.
Speaker 1: It's awful. It is awful. With the capital Ay, we
Speaker 1: talked about that last week. We said that. I said it.
Speaker 1: I said, it's my worst team in the league right now,
Speaker 1: and I said it three weeks ago. If they don't,
Speaker 1: if they don't play better and they continue to play
Speaker 1: the way they are, they won't win an other game.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't. I mean, so the defense plays better.
Speaker 1: They actually held you know, Tampa under all their season averages. Offensively,
Speaker 1: especially in the second half. They played well. And but
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you look up and you
Speaker 1: have four turnovers in an offense and you can't score points.
Speaker 1: This team doesn't score any points, and it continues to
Speaker 1: be a problem. They didn't score points last year, they're
Speaker 1: not score points this year. They have. They have a
Speaker 1: total of thirteen points in the first half in the
Speaker 1: last four games. And so it's not just defense, it's
Speaker 1: not just the offense, it's all of it. It's it's
Speaker 1: a it's an awful product on the field right now.
Speaker 1: There's no way to sugarcoat it. And the heart and
Speaker 1: then you got and then you got the Alba jaws.
Speaker 1: You got a contract for a guy that you're pention
Speaker 1: that is out of this world. It me, it's a disaster.
Speaker 1: Well that is what it is. I mean, there's nothing
Speaker 1: you can do about that. I know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's not good. It's not good, but it's it's it's
Speaker 1: a cost that's paid. There's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 1: So like you shouldn't play a guy just because of
Speaker 1: his contract if he's not play him. But that's just it.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's the whole thing is a disaster right now.
Speaker 1: And and there's no silver lining. There's nothing you can
Speaker 1: sit there and say, oh, well, at least they have
Speaker 1: this guy, or at least they have no you have
Speaker 1: a quarterback that paid all that money that's now going
Speaker 1: to restrict your ability to do things with the salary cap. Well,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have plenty of cap room at the end
Speaker 1: of this year. I meant million of it on the
Speaker 1: cap for for him, agreed. And there's nothing you can
Speaker 1: do about that. You can beg somebody to do an
Speaker 1: Oswiler deal and trade him, and I hope you trade.
Speaker 1: They trade a third round pick to get him off
Speaker 1: the books or something like that. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. Um. And the I mean, when you
Speaker 1: say there's nothing to hang your hat on, there's no
Speaker 1: good I mean, they do have some good young players.
Speaker 1: They do, and Josh Allen being one of them. And
Speaker 1: of them, that's right, they have good young They have
Speaker 1: some good young players. Um. And I can't believe. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm the one going there. But as
Speaker 1: you look for the future and then when it comes
Speaker 1: to you know, the draft and free agency and everything else,
Speaker 1: there are a bunch of holes and there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of areas that need to be addressed. And can you
Speaker 1: can you address those in one year? No? No, that's
Speaker 1: the chance. And so that's where it gets frustrating. And
Speaker 1: that's where it gets you. You look at it, you're like, dang,
Speaker 1: how did. How did how did we get here so quickly?
Speaker 1: M Yeah, that was a question. Player procuremid that's the
Speaker 1: easy thing to do. Players. You gotta build players. You
Speaker 1: gotta find the right players. You know that, Tony, you
Speaker 1: can have the greatest coach in the world. Theydn't have
Speaker 1: any players. He didn't win it. No, I agree. I
Speaker 1: mean it's a tough situation. It's continued, but by the way,
Speaker 1: we haven't. We haven't done the show since Tom's little
Speaker 1: press conference last week. What the hell was that? Well?
Speaker 1: I think there's been there's been articles written about it,
Speaker 1: Pete that I'm sure you saw. There's been a lot
Speaker 1: of talk about it. It was not received very well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did not. I don't think it went over well.
Speaker 1: It didn't look much better after this weekend either. The
Speaker 1: fans didn't like it. I don't think the media like that.
Speaker 1: They jumped on it. It was I didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: say anyone should. What was your biggest issue with it?
Speaker 1: Standards and never saying anything. That went to a new
Speaker 1: hyde of never saying anything. He didn't say one thing. Nothing.
Speaker 1: I didn't say one thing other than to plour the
Speaker 1: fans to pay and go to the game. He did not.
Speaker 1: And believe me, I've been around that guy a long
Speaker 1: long time and I've dealt with him not saying anything.
Speaker 1: By far and away. That was the worst instance of
Speaker 1: I'm not saying a thing. He didn't say one thing,
Speaker 1: didn't dress anything, didn't say anything. You No, I did
Speaker 1: not come across right. I don't think it was the
Speaker 1: message was communicated very well. Whatever the message that was
Speaker 1: trying to be uh conveyed um and it didn't help anything.
Speaker 1: But don't you think he needs to go up there
Speaker 1: and answer the questions and not get coimbative about it.
Speaker 1: Just to answer the questions, You're gonna open yourself self
Speaker 1: up to that, which, by the way, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Was he forced to do it, Did he want to
Speaker 1: do it that? You don't know. But if you're gonna
Speaker 1: open yourself up that way, answer the questions, you would
Speaker 1: have been underneath a rock for the entire season. Answer
Speaker 1: the questions well. And I would tell him if he
Speaker 1: walked in front of me, I tell him the same thing.
Speaker 1: I know you would be. I'll say this, I think
Speaker 1: you don't have to answer all the questions, but you
Speaker 1: have to answer some of the questions and the hard
Speaker 1: part was and it was set off by the one
Speaker 1: of the early questions about Jalen Ramsey, and Tom's response was,
Speaker 1: I don't want to He's not on this team. I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about him. The problem with that
Speaker 1: is it should have been addressed when the trade was
Speaker 1: made and then it's put to bed and you don't
Speaker 1: have to talk about it again. We talked about that
Speaker 1: on this show and it didn't happen then, so that
Speaker 1: kind of started the entire communication between Tom and the press,
Speaker 1: and then you know, you started asking about the coach
Speaker 1: and what are you gonna do with that now? I
Speaker 1: for one, and maybe you could have said it differently.
Speaker 1: If you're Tom, if you're asked about whether you're gonna
Speaker 1: you know what your evaluation of Doug Morone is right now.
Speaker 1: The answer is that it's an ongoing process and we'll
Speaker 1: continue to evaluate and the decision we made at the
Speaker 1: end of the year that would have been fine. I mean,
Speaker 1: he said it differently, but I'm not sure what else
Speaker 1: is he is supposed to say when you start asking
Speaker 1: about the job status of the head coach, Well that
Speaker 1: I understand me and the other nobody would answer that
Speaker 1: question right and then but the other hard part is
Speaker 1: is you don't want to come across and I think
Speaker 1: some of the people got frustrated is imploring the fans.
Speaker 1: Obviously that drove the fans crazy, and going over statistics
Speaker 1: of young players doing good things because nobody wants to
Speaker 1: hear that right now, even if it's true. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I mean, Josh Allen's a good player. It's almost
Speaker 1: like you're pat yourself on the back. So you can't
Speaker 1: do those things because you set yourself up for what happened.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you get out, I mean the conversation
Speaker 1: is answer the jams question because you didn't do it before,
Speaker 1: and then you go on saying it's not good enough
Speaker 1: and needs to get better, and it starts with me
Speaker 1: and it goes down to the organization. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: the only thing you can say at that and then
Speaker 1: you answer the questions the best you can. What did
Speaker 1: you guys think of Doug last week? Saying that there
Speaker 1: was internal questions about the way he handled training. Again,
Speaker 1: that was clearly a shot at Coughland. Well, that was
Speaker 1: the day before the cold press conference. It was clearly
Speaker 1: a shot at the other coach and my question is done. Well,
Speaker 1: that's part of the problem, the other coach, or should
Speaker 1: be only one coach. I don't know what Doug gains
Speaker 1: by saying that at this point. Well he's going out
Speaker 1: the door. Why not take I'm going down, You're going
Speaker 1: down with me. Well, if that's the case, then it's
Speaker 1: gonna be an ugly four weeks. It will be an
Speaker 1: ugly four weeks. Of course, it's going to be an ugly,
Speaker 1: disgusting in in fight he saw fighting between players yesterday
Speaker 1: or arguments. It's going to be bad for the next
Speaker 1: four weeks. Tony, There's no doubt about it. You can't
Speaker 1: sugarcoat it. Even you, in your captain sunshine ways can't
Speaker 1: sugar You just can't. I'm not trying to. By the way,
Speaker 1: have I tried Have I sugarcoated anything to last three weeks?
Speaker 1: I mean one thing I sugarcoated. We'll all think about
Speaker 1: it because the fans know, they'll know, they'll they'll tweet
Speaker 1: at Tony Boselliot tell them what do you? Go ahead
Speaker 1: and tell me what do I sugarcoaded? Pete Will this
Speaker 1: team won another football game this year? They might have
Speaker 1: an accident and win one but other than that, no,
Speaker 1: they stick. They're bad. It's a bad team. Come on,
Speaker 1: let's be real. They can win this week. By the way,
Speaker 1: the charges are coming across the country there four and eight.
Speaker 1: They just lost the Broncos. They're awful on offense, I
Speaker 1: mean just atrocious. They can't score points and they turn
Speaker 1: it over. So, yeah, you think, do you think they'll
Speaker 1: win this week? Don't you know? I get locked the Chargers.
Speaker 1: You're the most You're just lock him for the Okay,
Speaker 1: next week, Okay, it's a winnable game, But do you
Speaker 1: think they'll win it? I don't. Okay, what's the next one?
Speaker 1: But you agree with me that Argers aren't very good
Speaker 1: right now? No, but they got pass rushers, they got
Speaker 1: Dirdwin James back. Philip Rivers is a better quarterback than
Speaker 1: what Jacksonville has. Hold hold on a couple of things there.
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is having a bad year. He's having a
Speaker 1: bad year. He's still better than what they have. He
Speaker 1: was threatened to be benched by Anthony Lynn. Basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's better than what they have. I do worry about
Speaker 1: their defense because I mean Joey Bosat Melvin Ingram, especially
Speaker 1: after what I just watched on tape Gardner better to
Speaker 1: be able to be mobile, start running right now. Um,
Speaker 1: and Derwin James is back. They're much better on the
Speaker 1: back half with him obviously. So yeah, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I wouldn't favor us to win the game if uh,
Speaker 1: for entertainment purposes, Yeah, if for entertainment purposes only. And
Speaker 1: the next read the next three. Then next the next
Speaker 1: week you go to Atlanta. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Tony,
Speaker 1: you do have a little schedule. What are you talking.
Speaker 1: That's tough. They're not good, but that's that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a dreadful trip. You know the history of that. Nothing
Speaker 1: to play a game at the call, see if you
Speaker 1: think that place will be going a little bit. And
Speaker 1: then at Atlanta. Yes, Atlanta is not better than them.
Speaker 1: Atlanta is no good, but they're not better than them.
Speaker 1: And then home against the Colts and the culture probably
Speaker 1: needed to stay in the race. They're not playing well,
Speaker 1: but they're not winning again, and that would be that
Speaker 1: would be a bad thing to be a high draft thing.
Speaker 1: They're up. Don't draft yet, Pete, So they're gonna well
Speaker 1: we might we eliminated yet well, no, we are. It's
Speaker 1: we're officially not I have officially eliminated you have, Yes,
Speaker 1: we are, really, I'm officially eliminated from the playoffs. So
Speaker 1: four wins, four and twelve will get you what a
Speaker 1: top five pick? Probably, So you're so you're gonna go
Speaker 1: on an eight game losing. You're gonna fish the season
Speaker 1: by losing eight straight games? Yes, oh, four and eight
Speaker 1: might get you the way things are going, the number three, yeah,
Speaker 1: four pair, So we should start eyeing the draft. Then
Speaker 1: oh gosh, oh no, it's December. Second, it would be
Speaker 1: the first Where do you want to dress? First? Peet?
Speaker 1: Where would you gone? First? And foremost? Tackle? I would
Speaker 1: actually think I've started the defensive line, but uh, there's
Speaker 1: big I'm going big one way or another? Yeah, one
Speaker 1: way or the other. Two big people in the first
Speaker 1: two picks. We gotta we're gonna have to talk about
Speaker 1: that offensive line a little bit tony because back is
Speaker 1: an issue. Well, Pete, we've talked, Pete. I mean, I
Speaker 1: love cam but we talked about it from the start
Speaker 1: of the year. There was concerns we talked about on
Speaker 1: the Thursday Show with Jeff beat You and I've talked
Speaker 1: about it and it's a it's an issue right now,
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna be easy. You talk about a
Speaker 1: matchup that is not favorable for us, the way Cam
Speaker 1: is playing right now, it's gonna be tough for Cam.
Speaker 1: And I feel, you know, I hate talking, you know,
Speaker 1: I love protecting those guys and love being, you know,
Speaker 1: being in their corner. But right now, it is what
Speaker 1: it is. And with Joey Bosa coming, Holy Cow, and
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram is a good pass rusher as well, and
Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor had the worst game of his uh of
Speaker 1: his young career. Now, I think play well yesterday either penalties,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, penalties and some leakage in the second half
Speaker 1: and pass protection. Yeah, it was not good. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll get back to the old line a little bit later.
Speaker 1: We'll come. We have to had enough line talk, right, No,
Speaker 1: it was not at all j of them. You are
Speaker 1: amazing at this job. I mean, you really nail things,
Speaker 1: so are you, Tony. Thanks a lot for that back
Speaker 1: a moment defensive talk. A little bit later, we'll get
Speaker 1: back to the quarterback change as well. Gardnerment she will
Speaker 1: start this coming week against the Chargers. We're often running
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Speaker 1: when you look at what we're doing out there, it's
Speaker 1: it's not it's not good enough. So um. You know,
Speaker 1: like I said before, it's it's it's tough, um, and
Speaker 1: you try to do the best job you can. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when you're when you're
Speaker 1: pulling quarterbacks and you're pulling you know, maybe other players,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt it's a direct reflection on on on me.
Speaker 1: That's how I look at it. Like I said before,
Speaker 1: We're gonna find a way and get get a good
Speaker 1: taste in our mouth and look to see what we
Speaker 1: gotta get do differently, look to see if there's something
Speaker 1: that we can build on, look to see if there's
Speaker 1: something that can get us over the top. And then
Speaker 1: you know, go out there and compete our asses off
Speaker 1: and that's all you can do. Head coach Dug Marone
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Speaker 1: with us social media questions. A little bit later, You've
Speaker 1: asked Pete for people to tweet in and say, what
Speaker 1: Tony is sugarcoatd this year? No, not this year. The
Speaker 1: last few weeks Okay, well yeah, um, well, if you
Speaker 1: extended it to this year, you wouldn't you have about
Speaker 1: eight responsible this the last month. Okay, got it. Somebody said,
Speaker 1: somebody said Tony is sugarcoated. How horrible Andrew Norwell has
Speaker 1: played this season. That's not true. So like number one
Speaker 1: Pete said it last week, he's the thirteenth rade of
Speaker 1: guard in the NFL. Um Oh, now you're going, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that. I don't. I'm saying, but he is.
Speaker 1: He's about seventeen sixteenth raded guard. He's middle of the back. Okay, no,
Speaker 1: that's not middle of the pack. He was. He was
Speaker 1: terrible as he played. He played bad yesterday. There's sixty
Speaker 1: four guards in this league regular basis. He's in the
Speaker 1: upper He's in the upper third of guards. So to
Speaker 1: say he is horrible is not accurate. And any fan
Speaker 1: that and actually don't really want to do this, like
Speaker 1: wants to sit down and watch the tape and understand
Speaker 1: what is going on and watch him actually play. That's fine,
Speaker 1: but you they're not doing that. They're going off you know,
Speaker 1: a penalty here, a bad play there. You have to
Speaker 1: look at the entire thing because I could go do
Speaker 1: that with every offensive alignment in the league. And I'm
Speaker 1: not like he was bad. He played He played poor. Yo.
Speaker 1: You think Can was better yesterday? Hey, j Uh, I
Speaker 1: don't think any of them played well. Well, somebody had
Speaker 1: to be the best. It looked like I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I don't watch the tape, but I look like a J.
Speaker 1: Was better than all of them. Okay, a J or
Speaker 1: Linda because the other three didn't play well. Bunch of
Speaker 1: penalties up front yesterday, because we have sixteen penalties on
Speaker 1: the scene, which is the second most of the single
Speaker 1: game in franchise history. I thought we were going to defense. No,
Speaker 1: we're on you. We're here now, We're in it, all right.
Speaker 1: So that's the next year, going in the next year,
Speaker 1: going going into next year, Taylor will be the right tackle.
Speaker 1: Is he the only guy? Are sure to being in
Speaker 1: this spot? Good question, No, because you can't change everybody.
Speaker 1: And so Brandon Linder will be your center. I guess
Speaker 1: a J. Cand will be your right guard. Will Richardson
Speaker 1: Um he had a bad day well as well yesterday,
Speaker 1: did not play well. He'll be here. You'll be your
Speaker 1: left guard. Probably, I don't know, because here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Can you. You have so many holes to fill where
Speaker 1: I sit right now, if you go through that the
Speaker 1: entire roster of what you have to fill, you only
Speaker 1: have so many draft picks to do it with. And
Speaker 1: so I'm not saying Andrew Noel is worth the money
Speaker 1: you're paying him right now. You're paying him a lot.
Speaker 1: But we've talked about that's what happens in free agency.
Speaker 1: But I don't think you can just sit here today
Speaker 1: and say Andrew no Well is gone. That's not accurate.
Speaker 1: Like you have to look at other places you have
Speaker 1: to fill and fix. And if Andrew Oil is one
Speaker 1: of your more consistent offensive linemen, are you just gonna
Speaker 1: get rid of him because you're mad how much you
Speaker 1: had to pay him two years ago? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Now it has to be addressed. You have to look
Speaker 1: at it. Can you restructure it, can you do things?
Speaker 1: Or can you find somebody as good or better? Then
Speaker 1: you make the change. But until you know that, you
Speaker 1: just can't just say get rid of him because I
Speaker 1: don't like the deal we signed him to, even though
Speaker 1: he's probably playing consistently one of the better linement that
Speaker 1: we have. His cap hit next year is fourteen million dollars,
Speaker 1: So you gotta look at it. I mean, Pete, you
Speaker 1: know this all the time. Guys, you're restructured. I mean,
Speaker 1: now that's a that's a whole another issue. If he's
Speaker 1: willing to restructure than then okay, but his capit is
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars. They save nine by sending a packet.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but you understand, you just can't start
Speaker 1: getting rid of guys until you have someone to replace them.
Speaker 1: There's only so many holes you can fill in each offseason. Right,
Speaker 1: let me correct myself. They don't say they save five
Speaker 1: and a half, so he's probably not worth gutting. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I guess the bigger picture on this, right is
Speaker 1: who's making all these decisions. There might be different decision
Speaker 1: makers that have different ideas on right, I mean, this
Speaker 1: all might be a what a different system that they
Speaker 1: don't fit into. Well, then you have to make wholesale changes.
Speaker 1: You can't do that one year either, obviously, you can't.
Speaker 1: You have to kind of build it out of based
Speaker 1: on unless you just say, you know what, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go super young and we're just gonna take and I
Speaker 1: don't think you can do that. The offensive line, especially
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be going with a young quarterback and
Speaker 1: gardner Minshew cam Robins to be here next year. He's
Speaker 1: under contract, but he's got it. I mean. The thing
Speaker 1: that concerns me and it's he's coming off in a
Speaker 1: c L. So I know that's hard. But I see
Speaker 1: the same bad habits of leaning, turning, dropping his left
Speaker 1: foot when he punches, you know, giving up the edges
Speaker 1: that we've seen for the last three years. I've not
Speaker 1: seen improvement in those areas. And that's what you would
Speaker 1: know better than me. Could he go to guard? Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know. And he's kind of got a nasty
Speaker 1: streak in it, and he has mentality where if you've
Speaker 1: got a body n body, you might be able to
Speaker 1: handle it, you know. I don't know. So here's the thing.
Speaker 1: This is what I don't know. Is he physically strong
Speaker 1: enough big enough? Sure one, does he want to play guard?
Speaker 1: He might be if you don't have any options, you do.
Speaker 1: But Pete, you know this is well. If the Jaguars
Speaker 1: cut Camerabinson today, there'd be ten teams signing him trying
Speaker 1: to sign him because of the lack of offensive alignment
Speaker 1: in this lake. True and so he might say, I'm
Speaker 1: not playing guard. Someone else will let me play tackle
Speaker 1: and pay me as a tackle. What if he could
Speaker 1: be a good guard and I don't know that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know better than you have never seen him line
Speaker 1: up and guard, but now you know what it takes
Speaker 1: to be a guard. Does he have the tool set
Speaker 1: to be a guard? I don't know. That's something you
Speaker 1: don't know until you do it in some levels, because
Speaker 1: you need to know. Can he handle the close combat,
Speaker 1: the close uh close combat, the you know the you
Speaker 1: know it's happens quicker, you know they're on top of you.
Speaker 1: It's a different it's a different position. But like some
Speaker 1: of the best guards in this league today are former tackles,
Speaker 1: So I would have to Jack Martin was a was
Speaker 1: a tackle. Marcia Yonda was a tackle. Colletio assembly. I
Speaker 1: know he's not one of the best card but he
Speaker 1: was when he was good. He was he was a
Speaker 1: former tackle. I agree with that, But Pete, they also
Speaker 1: are does he have the lower body strength to be
Speaker 1: a guard? Right? Well, that you would know that better.
Speaker 1: Do you think he does. I'm I'm on the fence
Speaker 1: right now, I really am, and I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: avoid it. I'm just not sure. Like Ben Coleman played
Speaker 1: guard next to you, he was a tackle at one point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he did. He made a nice transition to guard right.
Speaker 1: He did very good job. Yeah, he had a big
Speaker 1: lower he was strong in the lower bard. I'll say this,
Speaker 1: I would probably getting I'd be probably getting Will Rich
Speaker 1: and some reps at left tackle. I know I would
Speaker 1: in the off season. He clearly played better than what
Speaker 1: Cams played at left tack when he was there. I
Speaker 1: would definitely get him some reps a left tackle. Um.
Speaker 1: But you, I mean, but JP makes a great question,
Speaker 1: I mean a great point. I mean, you look at
Speaker 1: the roster and there's you know, when you can go
Speaker 1: do the same thing on the defensive side. But a
Speaker 1: lot of it is who's making those decisions? Is it Tom?
Speaker 1: Is it Dave? Is it Doug? Or is there is
Speaker 1: there new pieces at all? Three? Is it new pieces
Speaker 1: in a couple Tony? You know it's gonna be new
Speaker 1: pieces across the board. I don't know anything right now.
Speaker 1: I really don't have a common sense, Okay, and I
Speaker 1: can't argue with that. The way it's going, that's fair.
Speaker 1: But so then you sit here and you look at
Speaker 1: the let's put the cell into the GM spot. Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: he would love that. Not on the ring, Jody, Okay,
Speaker 1: put you in a GM spot. Is Cam Robinson? You're
Speaker 1: starting left tackle when you open the season next year,
Speaker 1: Tony ball, GM. Are you looking for replace? I'm looking
Speaker 1: for someone to compete with him at that job based
Speaker 1: on what I've seen this year. Okay, is Andrew nor
Speaker 1: will coming back? If you could say five million dollars
Speaker 1: by them? Go? I mean who? Well? I mean right now,
Speaker 1: I have no one else in the roster. So it
Speaker 1: depends on whether how the draft plays out in all
Speaker 1: the different other areas I have to fill. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, and Linda at his bloated salary, he comes
Speaker 1: back or you try and get him to knock it down. Uh, No,
Speaker 1: I think he's coming back. He can't change everyone out.
Speaker 1: I mean you can't just you can't make these sold
Speaker 1: so changes like that. No, I lender is my starting center.
Speaker 1: Is there anybody behind other than Richardson who's on this
Speaker 1: roster that can play that developed and grow and becomes
Speaker 1: something at the line. I mean Tyler Shatley is your
Speaker 1: swing guy. That's what he is. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: see him coming in as a starting He's he's coming
Speaker 1: in short spells for a few weeks started that. He's
Speaker 1: just smart guys you want. I have not seen enough
Speaker 1: of Brandon Thomas. I don't know if he moves well enough. Um,
Speaker 1: and those are the only two other guys besides the
Speaker 1: war Richardson or in a way he and I don't
Speaker 1: think a boy. He's the tor left tackle, so fill
Speaker 1: in tight end. Yeah, he's the extra. Well, we don't
Speaker 1: have the problem is you. I mean you gotta address
Speaker 1: tight end. I mean you need probably two tight ends.
Speaker 1: You need someone to step up. You have no playmakers
Speaker 1: at the tight end. I mean Nicole Leary. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I mean Nicole Leary. I'm not sure why
Speaker 1: we didn't get me here earlier. He's literally your best
Speaker 1: tight end on the roster than you play fullback. He's
Speaker 1: a move guy, but I mean he's not I mean
Speaker 1: he's not a playmaker. He's a good soul. He's a
Speaker 1: good In fairness to them about the tight end position,
Speaker 1: it is a bad position in the NFL right now.
Speaker 1: He just is I mean, you go across the board now,
Speaker 1: Baltimore has three of them, but most teams struggle to
Speaker 1: find one Tony. It's a bad position. But the Cowboys
Speaker 1: they brought Jason Wittne out of the booth. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you have if you if Landard Fournette is gonna
Speaker 1: be your back, you have to have big physical tight ends.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree? And what do you want to
Speaker 1: be on offense? Do you want to be a physical
Speaker 1: team personnel? Get the personal We don't have big physical
Speaker 1: tight ends, but do they want to be? Just like
Speaker 1: it was, just why Nick Boyle in Baltimore is so
Speaker 1: valuable because he can block. Let's come back, um a
Speaker 1: little more on this topic ahead. We'll get back to
Speaker 1: the quarterback decision as well. Are we do just skipping
Speaker 1: talk to forget it? We won't forget it? Well, you
Speaker 1: can come that, do that when you come back, do
Speaker 1: whatever you want, because you just lied to everyone listening.
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Speaker 1: something like. And I had halftime though you know something
Speaker 1: been farmed for for a long time. Coach Brown came
Speaker 1: in and told me and Nick um situation, and we
Speaker 1: both talked about it. Um. You know, I agree that
Speaker 1: we're gonna dere Dame again to get us back in again.
Speaker 1: And you just try to get loose, um, you know,
Speaker 1: try to take completions early, getting the flow of the game. UM.
Speaker 1: I thought we did a decent job of that. Gardner
Speaker 1: mins you the second Jaguar's quarterback, the starter this week
Speaker 1: against the Los Angeles Chargers. Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour,
Speaker 1: j P Shadrick Tony was Elly Pete Priscoe. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: came in at halftime. So it's his job. It's his
Speaker 1: job that way. Yes, Doug announced that today. No, no,
Speaker 1: not just for this week. It's his job unless he
Speaker 1: plays well. I don't know. He didn't come out and say, hey,
Speaker 1: it's his job for the old season. He was asked
Speaker 1: specifically about that. He didn't really go there. But I
Speaker 1: don't think you go back unless Gardner Minshew gets hurt
Speaker 1: or throws like eight picks. I don't think you go
Speaker 1: back to nick Folds this season. In my opinion, what's
Speaker 1: the old saying. You know, it's hard to put the
Speaker 1: toothpaste back in the tube. I mean you you you
Speaker 1: bench falls, and like, I don't think you're gonna go
Speaker 1: back and forth. Doesn't work that way. Maron said today
Speaker 1: on the conference call that the mobility was really a
Speaker 1: big reason why. So that's really it's gotta be a
Speaker 1: shot of the offensive line and how they play. Why
Speaker 1: is that a shot at the offensive line? How is
Speaker 1: it not? How is it not? Well? Why because a
Speaker 1: lot of people will tell you that mobile quarterbacks you
Speaker 1: need mobility in today's NFL to play. And then if
Speaker 1: you look at most of the teams that are having success,
Speaker 1: they have an athletic mobile quarterback. Let's just go through
Speaker 1: the teams. Seattle great right, ben offensive line, Baltimore, Baltimore, Buffalo,
Speaker 1: good offensive line in Baltimore, Yeah, Buffalo athletic quarterback, uh,
Speaker 1: San Francisco, Jimmy geez, he's can move though. Canny Pete,
Speaker 1: Yeah a little bit. Line is pretty good though. When
Speaker 1: he's when they got the two tackles healthy, I mean Dallas,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott Athletic, athletic. I'm just saying, but there's a
Speaker 1: lot of to just say. It's the reason that they
Speaker 1: like his mobility. Like any quarterback that has mobility, whether
Speaker 1: you have a good or bad offensive line, is gonna
Speaker 1: an extra pressure on the defense. Well, how about just
Speaker 1: saying he's played better? The guy played awful for time. Well,
Speaker 1: that's anybody I wouldn't have said it's the mobility thing.
Speaker 1: I'd take we're playing Gardener because he's playing better. We
Speaker 1: feel like he gives us the best yet to win.
Speaker 1: That's it. Here's for you, Selly. Will Nick Foles ever
Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback in Jacksonville? I don't know. You know, no,
Speaker 1: what if Gardner gets hurt? No? No, aside from injury.
Speaker 1: Will he win the job back? Um this year or
Speaker 1: not this year? No? So we can hear more talk
Speaker 1: about culture building. They built a culture, all right? Why
Speaker 1: I mean, why are you taking shots at him now
Speaker 1: about the culture thing? Because I didn't like it last
Speaker 1: week and I still don't like it. It's just, I mean,
Speaker 1: the guy's down. I mean, do we have to kick
Speaker 1: him when he's Downpete? I mean, he just got fifty
Speaker 1: million dollars. Make me get down like that? Well's to see.
Speaker 1: But that's the difference between you and other people. It's
Speaker 1: not all about the money. I mean, your pride is
Speaker 1: a professor. You want to be good at your craft,
Speaker 1: you want to do a good job. It's not just
Speaker 1: about the money. Beat. I mean, I'm sure, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you. Nick Foles isn't sitting there saying, screw it,
Speaker 1: I got fifty million dollars. I don't care. That's like
Speaker 1: no player says that. It does soften the blow a
Speaker 1: little now, it doesn't. Trust me, it does not do.
Speaker 1: It's professional football. It is about the money. No, it's
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, I disagree
Speaker 1: that would he rather be making fifteen million dollars less
Speaker 1: and playing somewhere That that's a dumb question. It's not
Speaker 1: either he making making wrong. I'm saying right now today
Speaker 1: the money isn't making him feel any better. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying over the big I'm not saying, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that you step away from it and you
Speaker 1: go down the road, you know, a year or you know,
Speaker 1: after his career is over. Obviously it softens the blow.
Speaker 1: But right now, trust me, he's a competitor. You think
Speaker 1: he woke up the morning says, who cares, I got
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars. No, that's a Pete Prisco thing. That's
Speaker 1: a that's stupid. He's go get about a million dollars
Speaker 1: worth of ones and fill your room with it, and
Speaker 1: go dive into it for a while and feel a
Speaker 1: lot better. Well, like Listen, I agree. Over time, obviously
Speaker 1: the softens the blow and you look back and say,
Speaker 1: at least I got the money. I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be I mean stupid. I'm saying today
Speaker 1: and in the near future, it hurts because you have pride.
Speaker 1: You were brought here to do a job. I'll give
Speaker 1: you a perfect example. I got went to the Texans,
Speaker 1: got paid back then good money, and I could not
Speaker 1: play because of injury. I was bummed because I know,
Speaker 1: hold on, no but here, but you should say, well,
Speaker 1: you got the money. You should soften the blow and
Speaker 1: soften any blows miserable because you want to compete. That's
Speaker 1: why you're there. That's what made you get to the level.
Speaker 1: I know, I know you. You wouldn't have taken half
Speaker 1: that money to be able to compete. Yes, if if,
Speaker 1: if someone has said, listen, you're gonna make half as
Speaker 1: much money this year, but you're gonna be able to
Speaker 1: compete and continue to play. Done? Done? You kidding me?
Speaker 1: Maybe the old the oldest sell he might have done
Speaker 1: that new but Selly, no way, No, I'm just done.
Speaker 1: Over the long haul, right though, Tony softens the blow. No,
Speaker 1: not today, doesn't not today. Yeah, I'm with you on that,
Speaker 1: but I'm not hit. I'm not a guy when he's down, Tony.
Speaker 1: But when you signed that contract to become the guy
Speaker 1: and you get benched, that's the reality of it. The
Speaker 1: guy is gonna take heat, and he should take the heat.
Speaker 1: I'm fine you take the heat about how he's played,
Speaker 1: I'll take I'll bring the heat. He didn't play well.
Speaker 1: But like for you to bring up this culture nonsense,
Speaker 1: And I read all these Twitter people taking shots at
Speaker 1: the culture. What does that have to do with Nobody
Speaker 1: wants to hear that after care. It doesn't matter, is
Speaker 1: my point. That does not matter. Wins and losses. Performing,
Speaker 1: that's all that matters. So let's focus on that for
Speaker 1: the culture comment. But we're gonna give Aim an F
Speaker 1: minus for the way you play again, Sure, if that's
Speaker 1: how you want to do it, fine for him. We'll
Speaker 1: give him an A plus for happy he got a gun. Well.
Speaker 1: For the record, Doug Brown was asked if minshe will
Speaker 1: start for the remainder of the season in the conference
Speaker 1: call today. He said, quote, we're planning on him playing, yeah,
Speaker 1: end quote. That was the yeast. So he's the starter guy.
Speaker 1: I misspoke earlier. Yes, let's come back in a moment.
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Speaker 1: this culture, but for Nick it means everything to him,
Speaker 1: and so he give it back in our Heartbeatpete, I
Speaker 1: hear you. But as Tony said, the two of us
Speaker 1: spent time in that locker room and it's got paid
Speaker 1: an NFL contract, and I promise you, buddy will give
Speaker 1: that money back to be successful on that field, no
Speaker 1: question if they're willing to give it to him, But
Speaker 1: him giving it back don't make him have better success
Speaker 1: on Sun or the past three games either. So giving
Speaker 1: it back as a new point. My point is that
Speaker 1: if he could give it back, and you could look
Speaker 1: into a crystal ball, wave a magic one and give
Speaker 1: the money back and him have success and have his
Speaker 1: teammates have success, he'd do it. I know him. That
Speaker 1: will now long term, Pete. Yeah, one day you look
Speaker 1: back and say, well I got fifty billion bucks, my
Speaker 1: family set for generations and you move on with life.
Speaker 1: But in the midst, when you're a competitor, man, all
Speaker 1: you want to do is play and win. That's all
Speaker 1: you want to do. Well, I mean, look, I get it,
Speaker 1: you're a competitor. You want to play. Of course you
Speaker 1: want to play. But like two J P said, it
Speaker 1: softens the blow. Okay, this season, it will not soften
Speaker 1: the blow. This year, it will not soften it. Marcus.
Speaker 1: So you're here to promote an event coming up. Thank
Speaker 1: you for coming in. Absolutely coming up, the Gatorade Junior
Speaker 1: Training Camp Girls Flag football coming up on the right,
Speaker 1: Yes on the seventhe This is a Tuesday, and and
Speaker 1: kids should be out of school. So we're looking forward
Speaker 1: to the first time event like this. Be myself from
Speaker 1: you football people will have some high school coaches there
Speaker 1: as well as some of our players are coming out
Speaker 1: to help these girls work on their skill set because
Speaker 1: I understand that this girls flag it's probably the fastest
Speaker 1: growing sports in high school. And so these girls are
Speaker 1: doing these games that they have during the spring, and
Speaker 1: we thought, what a great opportunity to teach them about
Speaker 1: playing high school girls And we would like for those
Speaker 1: girls to be They don't have to be, but we
Speaker 1: would like for them to to be on a team
Speaker 1: that has a girls team or trying out or trying
Speaker 1: out for the teams. This is the skills development training
Speaker 1: what we're doing for these girls, and what a great
Speaker 1: opportunity knowledge. So skills can't led by you. Some players
Speaker 1: coming out and some special guest coaches as well. Open
Speaker 1: to the first one right, yes, first one hundred and
Speaker 1: the deadline will give you all the way up to
Speaker 1: December six. So there are only a hunter spots. So
Speaker 1: if you want to come, go now to Yeah, Jaguars
Speaker 1: dot com slash Prep. There you go, that'll show you all.
Speaker 1: That'll show you all the events that are available, and
Speaker 1: then you click on the Girl's Flag event. It'll take
Speaker 1: you to that event. You can register there and and
Speaker 1: go on. So so cool. I have just one recommendation.
Speaker 1: As you're going out and promoting this, no the you
Speaker 1: r L people ask you to get there. I thought
Speaker 1: we made it work together. We know the law every Sunday.
Speaker 1: But when he when he's not here, I would have
Speaker 1: knew it. You know, I had already send the information,
Speaker 1: already had already. That's cool though, I think it's great.
Speaker 1: Let's have three daughters, Tony, I've not been invited. Ok Um, yes, skills,
Speaker 1: big skill though I played quarterback and yeah yeah, played
Speaker 1: tight end and had great feat though oh yeah, believe me.
Speaker 1: I know a few times not only feel at the
Speaker 1: same time. But yeah, I think it's great, very cool
Speaker 1: doing it for the for the ladies. I have three
Speaker 1: girls who love competing, none of them playing flag football.
Speaker 1: I'mnna ask them why not. It's a good question them
Speaker 1: come out well, but they don't. They're not a team,
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't call al right, you don't have to
Speaker 1: be on a team. We would like for them to
Speaker 1: be on a team so they can take the training
Speaker 1: and do something the season. Right, But we want girls
Speaker 1: to get involved in football absolutely else. I think it's
Speaker 1: an so all the other things that we take from
Speaker 1: learning football, we could think the girls can do the
Speaker 1: same thing as camp. Oh absolutely. The cool thing for
Speaker 1: it is is like my girls are huge football fans,
Speaker 1: Like they go to every game, they watch it, they
Speaker 1: go watch their brothers play. I mean, they love it.
Speaker 1: They love watching football, and so I imagine for them,
Speaker 1: even though they're not a team, but to go learn
Speaker 1: more about the games. So because I always think when
Speaker 1: you know something or a sport, whatever it is, but
Speaker 1: the more you know about the more enjoyable it is
Speaker 1: to watch because you kind of have in side. So
Speaker 1: it's a what a cool event Like hockey. I can't
Speaker 1: I can't do hockey because I don't understand it. But
Speaker 1: like you said, if you understand the sport, more likely
Speaker 1: to watching and participating. Absolutely very cool. Coming up a
Speaker 1: dream Finders Homes flex field at Daily's Place, Tuesday, December seventeen,
Speaker 1: five to eight pm. Register at Jaguars dot com slash Prep.
Speaker 1: Take notes on that mark and that you can go
Speaker 1: on there and see all the list of the events
Speaker 1: clicking on the Jaguars, the Gatorad Junior Training Camp event,
Speaker 1: Girls Flag Football and you can register right there. Marcus,
Speaker 1: good stuff, Thank you very much for inside. I love it.
Speaker 1: Pete Brisco will be back in just a moment. Tony
Speaker 1: you're I guess you'll be back. I'll be back. Best
Speaker 1: segment we've had because Pete didn't say much. I was
Speaker 1: on it though. You just blocked me out. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why it was so good. He was an offensive Laman
Speaker 1: blocked you up. No, the best segment we ever had
Speaker 1: was when we did two Hours when you were in
Speaker 1: London to sell it. Pete, you're right, You're not wrong.
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Speaker 1: know a little bit of you know mobility you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I think that that that helps him.
Speaker 1: You know, I think, you know, front, they got after
Speaker 1: us a little bit, you know, not the spat, you know,
Speaker 1: squeeze the pocket. So from that standpoint, you know, you
Speaker 1: can extend plays a little bit more. We're able to
Speaker 1: make some plays where you know, before that just seemed
Speaker 1: like we weren't able to make some plays and weren't
Speaker 1: able to protect him well enough. You know, first one,
Speaker 1: he gets hit as he's releasing the ball, you know,
Speaker 1: on the back side. Um. The second one, you know,
Speaker 1: the right tackle gets beaten the scripts back, you know.
Speaker 1: In the third one, you know, he should, you know,
Speaker 1: my opinion, should have been able to hold on too,
Speaker 1: because he saw me coming from the background. Welcome Back,
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour, second hour of the program. That's ed
Speaker 1: Coach Dug Maroon Yesterday, j P Shadrick, Tonyvaselli, Pete Frisco,
Speaker 1: your social media questions coming up. We'll go around the
Speaker 1: ANFC South and around the NFL in week thirteen. Nice
Speaker 1: to see, by the way, nice to see BASSELLI get
Speaker 1: another former player to go after me and JP. You
Speaker 1: sit on the sideline after saying that you don't even
Speaker 1: defend me. What do you mean. I was right here
Speaker 1: the whole time. Yeah, he sat on the sideline, pat
Speaker 1: was right here. What do you want me to say, Pete?
Speaker 1: You used my line the whole segment? Were you talking
Speaker 1: about You didn't? You didn't, You didn't say anymore. You
Speaker 1: just just sat there and let me take it. It
Speaker 1: is unbelievable, Pete. You should know this by now. You
Speaker 1: should know this. Use my line the whole segment. You
Speaker 1: should know this by now. About JP, he will run
Speaker 1: for at the first sign of trouble. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: get the fox hold to anybody. He is all about
Speaker 1: protection and you know Switzerland, Switzerland, trying to keep himself
Speaker 1: out of any harm's way. He's not He's not. He's
Speaker 1: not a guy who's gonna go to war with you.
Speaker 1: He's not a warrior. But by the way, Tony, we
Speaker 1: were talking about Folds and what the options could be
Speaker 1: for Folds. Yeah, you could, you could trade him, but
Speaker 1: who's gonna take on that contract? Nobody? You could beg
Speaker 1: somebody to do an Oswiler like deal where you give
Speaker 1: him a draft pick to take him, and how when
Speaker 1: you trade does his entire cap money go with him,
Speaker 1: but you take you keep some of the cap right.
Speaker 1: And then here's the other problem in the scenario. This year,
Speaker 1: from what I understand, you can't with the last year
Speaker 1: the CBN unless they get a new cb A done.
Speaker 1: You can't designate post June trade or cut, which means
Speaker 1: you can't split the money. So if you traded him,
Speaker 1: you're still taking a huge cap it off. I would
Speaker 1: not be surprised if they don't get to see the
Speaker 1: cb A something done here pretty quick. Oh, I agree.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna get done. Seventh, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: seventeen games. They're gonna get it done. They'll they'll figure
Speaker 1: that out, and the season is gonna go into February
Speaker 1: and two buys. Yeah, I think that gets done. It's
Speaker 1: getting done. But but Tony is still gonna be tough
Speaker 1: to deal him. And or you know, can you keep
Speaker 1: a guy This is a legitimate question. Can you keep
Speaker 1: a guy who's making twenty two million dollars on your
Speaker 1: roster as a backup quarterback? Yes? Or not? Yes, you can,
Speaker 1: I mean you have no choice. Pet so yes, you've
Speaker 1: already paid the money. It's gone, it's done. It's guaranteed
Speaker 1: it's on the books. So yeah, I mean what else
Speaker 1: you gonna do? And why not? And if you're gonna
Speaker 1: go with Minshew, he's your starter. If that's how it
Speaker 1: plays out, and he wins is the job. And we
Speaker 1: still have an offseason, You have training camp in a preseason,
Speaker 1: so much stuff, and then you asked Nick Foles to
Speaker 1: be Nick Foles and what he's always done if you
Speaker 1: need him, come off the bench and play great again,
Speaker 1: back to what we had this conversation about the offensive
Speaker 1: line earlier. It also depends on who's making this decision.
Speaker 1: You don't know who that's gonna be. I don't think
Speaker 1: it matters they inherit the money issues also, like just
Speaker 1: because of new GM or new whoever comes in, that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean like, oh yeah, what you do over on
Speaker 1: this one. I mean it's on the books. In business,
Speaker 1: you'd call this a sunk cost, like it's an asset
Speaker 1: that you own that you've already paid for and you're
Speaker 1: not getting anything. It is what it is, So you
Speaker 1: stop looking behind and focusing on the mistake or what
Speaker 1: has happened. You say, we're moving forward. Now it's on
Speaker 1: our books. Let's make the best of it. That's all
Speaker 1: you can do. M So as of everything that's played
Speaker 1: out right now, it's a bad signing. There's no other
Speaker 1: way to describe it. It's hard for me to think
Speaker 1: of any other way too put position the situation. I
Speaker 1: think that's right, all right. It's a bad hit to
Speaker 1: an organization, really is. How about um a little positivity
Speaker 1: in this when Gardner, when Gardner came into the game yesterday,
Speaker 1: there was a little life. They moved the ball. You
Speaker 1: had to let a couple of scoring drives. They were
Speaker 1: down inside the to another time and through an interception.
Speaker 1: The red zone issues, right, that's been a theme this year.
Speaker 1: Is that a real thing because of Minshew or is
Speaker 1: this a change of you know what is run it
Speaker 1: once when they were down there? Uh? Yes, I believe so.
Speaker 1: Is it just the Earth Agency thing at that point
Speaker 1: in the game. I mean, listen, I think his ability
Speaker 1: to extend plays and the off schedule play gives you
Speaker 1: something extra, It really does. Indeed, he drop a touchdown
Speaker 1: pass though that was it was a tough catch and
Speaker 1: I watched the film it almost looks like he could
Speaker 1: have run through better and mint she was leading him
Speaker 1: because where MITSI wants to put that ball on that
Speaker 1: that clear out route. You have to put it in
Speaker 1: the body up into the body of the receiver because
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough throw in traffic. If you
Speaker 1: put it away from him, too many bad things can happen.
Speaker 1: He led him a little bit, so d D had
Speaker 1: to reach out. He got two hands on it, but
Speaker 1: then it deflected up. But it almost looked like on
Speaker 1: the film that there was a hesitation by d D
Speaker 1: and he didn't run through it, and so it's just
Speaker 1: a bad play all around. H interesting. You know what
Speaker 1: we promised defensive talk earlier, we didn't quite get to that.
Speaker 1: Let's touch on it now. Jaguars defense in this game
Speaker 1: really in the second half turned things on. They slow
Speaker 1: down this Tampa Bay offense in that second half. Donald
Speaker 1: Payne had to step in his He had played ten
Speaker 1: snaps on defense in his career, and I think he
Speaker 1: had what he had thirteen tackles yesterday starting at middle linebacker.
Speaker 1: Andrew Wingered had seven tackles in a sack in place
Speaker 1: of Ronnie Harrison yesterday. You're getting deep down the depth
Speaker 1: chart here. Of course, guys, that Donald Paine was on
Speaker 1: the street this year and he started at middle linebacker.
Speaker 1: Now because it come tells you how how deep they
Speaker 1: have to go down the list right now, on defense,
Speaker 1: it's not the ideal situation, but there were some high
Speaker 1: points on defense yesterday. We'll go through this. Look at
Speaker 1: the starting eleven yesterday. On defense, you having Gockway third
Speaker 1: round pick, Abray Jones, undrafted, undrafted, David Brant, first round
Speaker 1: plays Campbell was the first rounder, undrafted, second round, the
Speaker 1: second rounder. But you know Quincy Williams, rookie, third rounder,
Speaker 1: uh Donald Payne, undrafted free agent, William Jacobs, the seventh rounder,
Speaker 1: Trey Herndon, undrafted free agent, Jared Wilson, undrafted free agent,
Speaker 1: um Andrew Wingard, uh undrafted free agent, A J. Boyer
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent, but a free agent. To us, that
Speaker 1: is remarkable. You think about that usually the amount of undrafted.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, like I was looking at the
Speaker 1: right at the starting lineup. He said, I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: the only first round pick on the entire side of
Speaker 1: the ball is David Bryant and d J. Hayden. When
Speaker 1: he comes to the nickel correct and Josh Allen. Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: you know, is a rotational player. But the back half
Speaker 1: is all undrafted. With the starting four, well, two of
Speaker 1: the first round pick defenders are playing for the Rams
Speaker 1: right now. We just I mean in in for that group,
Speaker 1: I give, I give a great job play their tail off.
Speaker 1: I thought Todd washers defense staff did a great job,
Speaker 1: put them good positions, and I thought that unit. You know,
Speaker 1: if you look at it the earlier, the grades, and
Speaker 1: tell me you agree with these guys grades if they
Speaker 1: played as well. One second before you do that, the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers were averaging yeah and a half points a game.
Speaker 1: They were third third and scoring fourth in passing, and
Speaker 1: if you look at what they did, they did a
Speaker 1: great job. They gave up uh eighteen points and really
Speaker 1: slowed down Jamis Winston through the air. I thought, I
Speaker 1: thought they played good. All right, let's go through. Tell
Speaker 1: me if you thought this guy played good or not,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you how they graded him. Abrey Jones, mhm,
Speaker 1: uh didn't stand out solid, not great, Nope, big great.
Speaker 1: Tavin Bryant. Tavin Bryant probably had his best game of
Speaker 1: the year. I thought, exactly. They gave him good grades
Speaker 1: on their Clays Campbell. He made some really good tackles
Speaker 1: for a loss. You know Claisses, but Clays right now, Man,
Speaker 1: the last number of weeks, he's been on the ground
Speaker 1: a lot and uh, something we hadn't seen from him
Speaker 1: in the past. Why is that the only thing? Snaps?
Speaker 1: A lot of snaps this year, and he's way too
Speaker 1: many snaps were a player at his age as well.
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to play six snaps yesterday.
Speaker 1: It's too much Monique and way. I would say he
Speaker 1: didn't really flash, didn't do a lot, average, bad, great, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Quincy Williams, he probably had his best game as well.
Speaker 1: Ye good, you're good today. Tony oh Pain outside of
Speaker 1: two plays, played good football. They gave bad grade past coverage, okay,
Speaker 1: but he he had like thirteen tackles. He had two
Speaker 1: bad plays. On the touchdown he was in the wrong gap. Um,
Speaker 1: so I would probably disagree with him on that one.
Speaker 1: Trey Herndon, Um nice. Just they gave a good grade
Speaker 1: and run defense and a bad grade in the pass game.
Speaker 1: I'm awful grade. But okay, I just say, okay, Jared Wilson, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's your your spot on wind guard. Uh. For what
Speaker 1: he was asked to do first time starting, I'd give
Speaker 1: him like he played well. Okay, yeah, okay, they gave it. Okay,
Speaker 1: great a j boy A got pained for for his
Speaker 1: past coverage. Yeah, he did not play fast yesterday, so
Speaker 1: I would just say, okay, Josh Allen gave a good
Speaker 1: grade and run defense bad grade. As a pass rushier
Speaker 1: did not get much pressure. It had a sack, but
Speaker 1: it was a clean up sack. He's very good against
Speaker 1: Runni's physical, tough, and everybody else was just everybody else.
Speaker 1: So Davis, by the way, played Tony one snaps yesterday.
Speaker 1: Question will be when will Miles Jack get back. I
Speaker 1: would not be surprised if we do not see Myles
Speaker 1: Jack the rest of the year. Really that he's bad.
Speaker 1: I don't know how bad it is, but if it's
Speaker 1: even if he's not gonna be back at least by
Speaker 1: after the Chargers game, I'd put him in I R Well,
Speaker 1: if you don't see Myles Jack for the rest of
Speaker 1: the year, that means you haven't seen him all year.
Speaker 1: Let's be real. He's gonna be one of the major
Speaker 1: I look, I love the kid. He's got to be
Speaker 1: considered one of the major disappointments of the season. It'll
Speaker 1: be interesting what they do. Um, because I remember, like
Speaker 1: the start of the year on this show, we were
Speaker 1: talking about him being a possibility of being one of
Speaker 1: the great players on defense in the league this year.
Speaker 1: We were hoping because we didn't see it the year before,
Speaker 1: and UM, we thought that this was an important year
Speaker 1: from to take the staff be signed the deal. UM.
Speaker 1: To me, I really like Miles a lot. He looks
Speaker 1: he looks a little heavy. To me, he does look
Speaker 1: really heavy. He does not look very instinctual at the
Speaker 1: middle linebacker position. And maybe, I mean, he's never played will,
Speaker 1: but maybe you need to find a middle linebacker, move
Speaker 1: him to will and let you know, we're you know,
Speaker 1: it's not quite as cluttered in the middle, and let
Speaker 1: him kind of use that athletic ability a little bit more. Somebody.
Speaker 1: But you know, they when they're gonna do staff in here,
Speaker 1: they might have a team and look at in Gockway
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen and say, you know what, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have them standing up and we're gonna go to a
Speaker 1: different system. And the problem with that is where does
Speaker 1: Miles fit that kind of system? Right? You're talking about
Speaker 1: three four, but Tampa Bay plays at three four with
Speaker 1: technically with David and he's not a big well they
Speaker 1: really they really play a hybrid. Yeah, that's what everybody's
Speaker 1: playing now anyways, right, they really play a hybrid. Well,
Speaker 1: Steelers pretty they still play a base three four. There's
Speaker 1: a handful of teams that do. But your Miles is here.
Speaker 1: He's just signed that contract extension. Miles not go anywhere.
Speaker 1: You can't go anywhere. No, he can't. He's on the roster.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be surprised. You know, the knee injury,
Speaker 1: and if I'm not mistaken, it's the same knee had
Speaker 1: issues coming out of college, the right knee, and um,
Speaker 1: now I don't know anything. So maybe it's not as
Speaker 1: bad as we know that. I mean, well, thank you. Um,
Speaker 1: maybe it's not that bad. And if you can play
Speaker 1: this week, great, then obviously you don't put him my R.
Speaker 1: But if he's gonna miss a couple of weeks this
Speaker 1: late in the season, I think you just you put
Speaker 1: him on the IR for the year. Tony. Here's a
Speaker 1: question for you on the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: How many guys who are starting right now or projected
Speaker 1: starters will count? Jack will be starting on opening day
Speaker 1: next year. Well, I mean, if you look at it,
Speaker 1: Labie Glassbie here, well, that's gonna be a money issue.
Speaker 1: And how much money does Class want to make for
Speaker 1: the right price. I would like I would want Class back,
Speaker 1: But he has to be a rotational player. He has
Speaker 1: to be a guy who's playing twenty t snaps. But
Speaker 1: if you're hamming that your option, don't you want to
Speaker 1: go play on a team that has a chance to win? Sure?
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. You have to have that
Speaker 1: conversation with him, and I think you he's earned the
Speaker 1: right with what he has done here and the type
Speaker 1: of guys you sit him down, say Class, this is
Speaker 1: where we see you, and this is how much we
Speaker 1: can pay you for that role. Now, if you want
Speaker 1: to go somewhere else, we understand it. We want you
Speaker 1: here on that role. You just have a man to
Speaker 1: man conversation with him. He's a stand up guy. He's
Speaker 1: been a great player, great individual, and but he can't
Speaker 1: be playing sixties naps for you too much. H Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're running out of guys here though, I mean, Josh
Speaker 1: Allen's gonna be a starter. You have a decision to
Speaker 1: make with h in Gockway. I mean, you offered him
Speaker 1: nineteen million in the off season, didn't want it. Uh,
Speaker 1: so he obviously wants three. I don't think based on
Speaker 1: the production this year, you can pay him that. This
Speaker 1: depends again on who's making the call and do you
Speaker 1: tag him, depending on what what what are you playing?
Speaker 1: What kind of defense are you gonna play? Right, we
Speaker 1: don't know, So you can't okay million dollar bass salary
Speaker 1: next year. There's no way you know you're not gonna pay.
Speaker 1: You cannot pay that. M I mean, David Bryant's gonna
Speaker 1: be on this team. He's gonna be either you're starting
Speaker 1: three technique or rotational player at that position. There's there's
Speaker 1: one for sure. Miles Jack is gonna be back. I mean,
Speaker 1: Quincy Williams is gonna be back. But you don't know
Speaker 1: where Miles Jack is gonna play, so you don't know
Speaker 1: what he's gonna be doing. So there's one for sure,
Speaker 1: is David Bryant. Um. Yeah, d J hay Now wants
Speaker 1: Josh Allen will be starting. So that's what I said.
Speaker 1: I already said him, d J hayd Now I want
Speaker 1: him as my starting nickel. I think he's a really
Speaker 1: good player. That means there's a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of holes. What about a J. What do you do
Speaker 1: with him? How much you know him next year? I'll
Speaker 1: taking a second, But I mean, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: lot of money for it is for a guy who's
Speaker 1: been just okay, right, I don't even know what his
Speaker 1: number is, so it's hard to say. You're about to
Speaker 1: tell me, and I'll tell you in a second, but
Speaker 1: Morshel Darius isn't coming back. Uh, that's a twenty three
Speaker 1: up I think two million in cap space. That's an
Speaker 1: easy to say it. So hold on looking up for
Speaker 1: his conject When I get it, I'll tell you go ahead.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a lot of holes on defense. Well,
Speaker 1: that's so, that's that's why it goes back to the
Speaker 1: argument of offense, and everyone's like, we'll get rid of
Speaker 1: this guy and get rid of this guy. Like, wait
Speaker 1: a second, you're not gonna get away. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: get rid of solid starters. So this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a process, is what you're saying. It's a process. Okay.
Speaker 1: A J is scheduled to make thirteen million dollars in
Speaker 1: bass salary and he's got so they could say, um,
Speaker 1: eleven million dollars by letting them go. He's gone. Let's
Speaker 1: come back social media questions and by the way, he's
Speaker 1: played better than I expected. Sorry, sorry, j P. Back
Speaker 1: me up. So I had to interrupted yet again. Back
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Speaker 1: JP Shatterck, Tony Baselli, Pete Prisco. Jags fell to the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers yesterday, Big changes, Gardner Minshew's now the starting quarterback again.
Speaker 1: He'll start this week and moving forward after he was
Speaker 1: put back in the lineup at halftime yesterday. It is
Speaker 1: time now for social media questions. Tony and Pete's favorite
Speaker 1: part of the show every single week. We've got a
Speaker 1: lot today, so let's get right to him. Number one
Speaker 1: at Jakun Kun one. What is wrong with the goal line? Offense?
Speaker 1: Is a play calling? Oh line? Not enough big guys,
Speaker 1: no fullback? Why don't we use Alan or tavn as
Speaker 1: a fullback. That's it. I mean, I got no problem
Speaker 1: with that. I mean you see a lot of teams
Speaker 1: doing I mean the Buccaneers used Vida Vella as a fullback. Uh.
Speaker 1: For the Buccaneers on their goal line, Uh, it's not
Speaker 1: been good. We've only have three Rushi touchdowns on the year.
Speaker 1: And when you're struggling to run the ball in the
Speaker 1: tight red zone, it starts with the offensive line, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, I think, and the tight ends camp block
Speaker 1: either that's a part of it. But you have no
Speaker 1: true fullback on the roster. So I think the the
Speaker 1: the social media questions the fair one. Why not put
Speaker 1: you know, Tavin Bryan or something like that in there? So,
Speaker 1: and then you have to look at scheme that goes
Speaker 1: to the schemes. I think it's all the above. That's
Speaker 1: a lot to decipher. Next question at minor forty nine
Speaker 1: or nine, question for Pete. If Tony stuck up for
Speaker 1: his Hall of Fame candidacy the way he sticks up
Speaker 1: for Norwell, would he be a Hall of Famer already?
Speaker 1: Your damn right, he would be. Yes, He's put He's
Speaker 1: gonna have Andrew Norwell in the Hall of Fame in
Speaker 1: about three weeks. I mean, you guys are out of control,
Speaker 1: out of control. Who's you guys? I'm just reading the questions.
Speaker 1: By the way, haven't congratulated, uh, Mr BISSELLI on being
Speaker 1: a finalist again along with Fred Taylor. Yes, semifinal, Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: happy for both of them. Yeah, that's cool, It's really cool.
Speaker 1: Fred was fired up over the weekend talking to about it.
Speaker 1: I I texted with him and I know he was
Speaker 1: thrilled with it. And I know Tony. I've talked to
Speaker 1: you and you are too, And I'm locking it. This
Speaker 1: is the year. Oh you're locking it? The lock hasn't worked? Well,
Speaker 1: well that's for you. That's for you. My lock works.
Speaker 1: This is the year. I'm locking it. Pete has locked
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame for Tony. We can We got
Speaker 1: to Runway ninety eight and have dinner. That sounds like
Speaker 1: a plan. I like it, uh, Next social media question
Speaker 1: at Oh, hey, there's the lock that I don't It
Speaker 1: doesn't make me feel very good because we haven't locked
Speaker 1: very many good things. Next question at Filthy Film. Hold on,
Speaker 1: how Pete, how's your lock been this year? Off and on?
Speaker 1: Not as as yours. Next question, what do you guys
Speaker 1: think about Prisco going for the Jags GM spot. I
Speaker 1: mean Mayock did it in Oakland. Prisco love this. It's
Speaker 1: the same question as last week. The answers people are smart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not that they're saying that. Do you still want him
Speaker 1: as your vice gmpte. I already told you I'm not
Speaker 1: working for Pete Prisco system. Sure you are. We make
Speaker 1: a great team, but silly, Yeah, you just have to
Speaker 1: listen to my final say. And I would do all
Speaker 1: I would do all the work if Pete would take
Speaker 1: all the credit. Yeah, that'd be great. Here here's the
Speaker 1: plan for next year. As a since on the new GM,
Speaker 1: we're all gonna go to Canton and watch Basilli celebrate
Speaker 1: getting into the hall. To be a fun party. We'll
Speaker 1: have a big old time. And then and then you
Speaker 1: watched the whole season as they tank for Trevor, and
Speaker 1: then they get Trevor Lawrence and everything is rosie for
Speaker 1: the next decade and a half in Jacksonville. For Trevor.
Speaker 1: You can trade your two first round picks. G you
Speaker 1: haven't move up and get him. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Trevor is a year later. That's what I'm saying, you
Speaker 1: have two draft picks a year. I'm not doing it
Speaker 1: that year either. I'm no, I'm going to tank because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rebuild this thing the right way. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tank for Trevor. I'm gonna use my two first round
Speaker 1: picks this year to get two big people. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: in the second, third round, I'm gonna get big people.
Speaker 1: And then and then for Trevor, he's already he's already
Speaker 1: disqualified himself. Let's move on. Yeah, you're no longer a candidate,
Speaker 1: Mr Criscoe, because Trevor's coming out next year. He's coming
Speaker 1: out next year, not two years from He's gonna not
Speaker 1: gonna be in this draft. He's gonna be in the
Speaker 1: one a year from now. And what JP is trying
Speaker 1: to say, you idiot, we have two first rounders, but
Speaker 1: I'm not trading them up. I'm gonna I'm gonna lose
Speaker 1: to get him. I don't need to trade up. You
Speaker 1: have a first round picks. Next question at Sam, I
Speaker 1: am sheer thirteen. What should we look for or cheer
Speaker 1: for give us a sliver of hope for the last
Speaker 1: couple of games. Tony and Peter J. Pow. You guys
Speaker 1: take this one. Pete get a better draft pick. And
Speaker 1: Josh Allen the approvement of Tavid Brian. Actually he's playing better.
Speaker 1: And watch Minshew, there's there's your things to watch. There
Speaker 1: are some young talented players in this team. Sure you
Speaker 1: want to see how they developed. I think that's a
Speaker 1: sliver of hope for the future. Next question at Riley
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Speaker 1: talking about the Rams one last week, right yesterday the
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey signed that guy's jersey freeman put in his house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think he would. No, No, what would the uh?
Speaker 1: I know we're not talking draft yet we are where
Speaker 1: the Rams drafting right now? That's what I was gonna ask.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'll tell you a second hold on they
Speaker 1: won yesterday since in the twenties, I think right, I
Speaker 1: think it's in the late teens. Let's go to the
Speaker 1: next day. The good dudes about that is they got
Speaker 1: cap issues going forward to Yes, they do absolutely. We'll
Speaker 1: get the answer to that coming up at John d Underscore.
Speaker 1: Scott has the next one. Do you remember Thesellly burger
Speaker 1: some of my fondest memories from the late nineties. What
Speaker 1: ingredients did it have? What would have improved it? Well,
Speaker 1: we've really gone we're going downhill here, but um we yeah.
Speaker 1: I had three patties on it, like on a Hoagi roll,
Speaker 1: two or three pieces of cheese, some onions and pickles
Speaker 1: or a little mayo, we mustard little mayo. It was.
Speaker 1: It was a good burger. Okay, what was that from
Speaker 1: Tony McDonald's and ninety five or six? Right? I forgot
Speaker 1: about what could have improved it didn't have onions on it,
Speaker 1: but okay, grilled onions improved it. I love onionspos oh,
Speaker 1: I like colopenios. Yeah, I think those would be two
Speaker 1: good editions. Maybe about cheddar cheese. I'd like one more one. Hey.
Speaker 1: By the way, if the Jaguars the Jaguars drafted today,
Speaker 1: they'd be picking eight for the wrong pick and twenty
Speaker 1: for the rams pick. All right, what else would improve
Speaker 1: these burger piece? Nothing? Let's go on that. Mushrooms I
Speaker 1: like mushrooms. Okay. Good, By the way, it has a
Speaker 1: side of ego that comes with it's not very nice,
Speaker 1: it's hurt full. You are correct, Sir knows blog. Thanks question,
Speaker 1: who does the Nick Foles signing fall on shot Con,
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin or Dave Caldwell. So it's on Tom and Dave.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's their responsibility and all the above, right, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: because you hire good people and then you trust their
Speaker 1: ability to do the job. On the money, it's on
Speaker 1: Tom and Dave. You don't think though, that when they're
Speaker 1: ready to go sign Nick Foles, they don't call upstairs
Speaker 1: and say, hey, Mr Cohn, are you okay with us
Speaker 1: spending eight million? Yeah, but it's not. It's not Shod's
Speaker 1: job to evaluate the player, correct, that's the that's Tom's ultimately, Ultimately,
Speaker 1: if you want, it goes to Tom's Tom and and
Speaker 1: and ultimately I think that was Tom's decision. It's his decision.
Speaker 1: And I think he was the one that was wanted
Speaker 1: Folds more than anybody, just like I think he was
Speaker 1: the one. And you guys to deny this. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've heard this too, but he wanted Leonard Bournett. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna speculate who wanted what, but in when
Speaker 1: uh Shod Kohn hired Tom Coughlin be in charge of
Speaker 1: all football, it was very clear that he had final
Speaker 1: say in all football decisions. So how the information is
Speaker 1: gathered and who is RESPONSI for what piece of that information?
Speaker 1: And up to Tom? The sign off is Tom at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. So so how it works? Yes,
Speaker 1: Tony as a Jaguar guy in the legend and all that.
Speaker 1: Does it bother you when you sit there and watch
Speaker 1: the games and you see just Suson beat down New
Speaker 1: England on Sunday night, you see Lamar Jackson running wild,
Speaker 1: ven you see you see you see Patrick Mahomes doing
Speaker 1: what he's doing. And they passed on the chance to
Speaker 1: draft all of them. Yeah, let's go to the next question.
Speaker 1: Final question here at STU whinners for Pete. Given the
Speaker 1: secondary needs work where thin as safety, the linebackers are trash,
Speaker 1: and the defensive line is likely to be worse next season.
Speaker 1: But players being let go, where would you start on
Speaker 1: the inevitable rebuild that's now needed. Me and Tony talked
Speaker 1: about it all the time. You have to draft big
Speaker 1: people all the way around. Fine, big people, offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. If you're good on those lines, like the
Speaker 1: forty Niners, you're going to be good team. And and
Speaker 1: that's where you have to start. So it's all about
Speaker 1: the draft, and Tony, I agree with you. You go
Speaker 1: big defensive lineman first, Avid's lineman second, whatever you want
Speaker 1: to do, but you gotta get big people in the draft.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm a firm believer. You build a
Speaker 1: team inside out. Obviously, you have to have the quarterback.
Speaker 1: You don't have to have a you know, Paul Fame quarterback,
Speaker 1: but you have to have a good quarterback that can
Speaker 1: we in games for you and you know, operate in
Speaker 1: the offense. So take that off the board. You have
Speaker 1: to have offensive defensive line. You have to build with
Speaker 1: big people. And then the next piece on defense is
Speaker 1: you need one really good corner that will help you
Speaker 1: because it can change how you do your back halfs cover.
Speaker 1: But starting you build with big human beings. Did you
Speaker 1: do that? Did you do the Thursday games Thanksgiving? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did? Uh the game? Did the night games? Okay?
Speaker 1: I thought you did the Bill's Cowboys games? But uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Josh Allen's another one who's growing as a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are becoming good players, and it's
Speaker 1: just got to be. If you're a Jaguar fan, you
Speaker 1: have to be infuriated when you see that happening. And
Speaker 1: then you see your guy get benched. You see what
Speaker 1: they paid Bordles. He's not there anymore. I mean, the
Speaker 1: whole thing has been a disaster from the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: Not good, not good, not good, no other way to
Speaker 1: say it. Well, how do you fix it? You hope,
Speaker 1: like heck bench you becomes something that you didn't expect
Speaker 1: him to become. That's how you fix it. And the
Speaker 1: he'll have a year to do that. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, unless you're sitting there where you
Speaker 1: get all the way up to one or two, which
Speaker 1: I don't see happening, and you value. Yeah, but even
Speaker 1: if you got the one right now, if you were
Speaker 1: the one team, would you Joe Burrow is the only
Speaker 1: guy right now that you can pass my point? I would.
Speaker 1: I would do a lot of work on Joe Burrows.
Speaker 1: And if I think he is the next great quarterback
Speaker 1: in this league, then I'm taking Joe Burrows now. I
Speaker 1: don't know that. For a fact, I have watched one
Speaker 1: game of Joe burrows entire career, which is a Goods
Speaker 1: Alabama That's it. That's all I saw. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's the guy. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: has the skill set. I don't know what his mental
Speaker 1: makeup biz. I don't know anything about him. But I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if you got to the point where you're sitting there
Speaker 1: at one and you think there's a a quarterback that
Speaker 1: can be a generational guy that's going to be your
Speaker 1: guy for the next ten to fifteen years, you pick them.
Speaker 1: Otherwise you roll with Minshew. You let that thing play
Speaker 1: out through the him and fulls, through the training camp
Speaker 1: and all that. But you build up both lines and
Speaker 1: you gotta get more speed in the secondary. That's the
Speaker 1: other thing that does worry me. I don't think we're
Speaker 1: very fast in the back end. Are they fast enough
Speaker 1: at wide receiver? Well? DJ can fly? Didn't you run
Speaker 1: like four three? Yeah? Yeah, I think they are. I'm
Speaker 1: just asking because we watched these teams, like we watched
Speaker 1: New England last night. They're not fast enough at wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I mean DJ can fly. There's any question about that.
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Speaker 1: Tony Vaselly, Pete Prisco Glad you're along with us eleven
Speaker 1: the final Yesterday, Buccaneers over the Jaguars. The Jags are
Speaker 1: now four and eight. There were four and four at
Speaker 1: the end of October. And the worst part, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's the worst part. Wanted to add another
Speaker 1: worst part. I will tell you once you say it.
Speaker 1: Let's see. Because not only they've lost four straights, they've
Speaker 1: they've been blown out. It has been a bad looking
Speaker 1: to possession game I mean losses. I mean, so if
Speaker 1: you average it out, I'm sure it goes well over
Speaker 1: losses over the four games. That's some. As I said
Speaker 1: in the post game, it's just some bad football. It's
Speaker 1: all it is. It's bad. It might be the worst
Speaker 1: that's ever been around that and that says something. Seriously,
Speaker 1: this might be the worst the worst little stretch of
Speaker 1: football played by any jagg Wars team that includes the
Speaker 1: expansion team. We're just some really at the end of
Speaker 1: Coffin's tenure, there's some really bad football. No, they were
Speaker 1: in games. This might be the world. I'm serious. This
Speaker 1: might be the worst stretch of games that any Jaguar
Speaker 1: team has ever had. It's painful. How could we be
Speaker 1: so wrong about this team? We're way off? Yeah, way off.
Speaker 1: We'll beat your way off? So are you? No? I
Speaker 1: had him? I had us losing four straight. No, you
Speaker 1: had him winning seventh straight. Not No, I go to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Remember, we're gonna all eat it runway right?
Speaker 1: And when the when the division though? You said, and
Speaker 1: have a home field by Yeah? Yeah, a little off
Speaker 1: missed it? Just this coach. Let's take a look at
Speaker 1: the AFC South results yesterday, the games in the division.
Speaker 1: There was a divisional game Titans and the Colts. The
Speaker 1: Titans won that one one seventeen. Derrick Henry went for
Speaker 1: one line and a touchdown. Tannehill made some big throws
Speaker 1: efficient a couple of touchdowns, and the Titans made a
Speaker 1: move there. Pete, how about the fact that they're talking
Speaker 1: about franchising Tanny Hill. It's unbelievable. I mean, he's playing
Speaker 1: pretty good football. He's four and one is a start.
Speaker 1: He's playing really good football. And Jacksonville could hit him
Speaker 1: a lot cheaper than Nick Foles. Here we go, but
Speaker 1: let's be real about it. They could have Texans beat
Speaker 1: the Patriots on Sunday Night football. Watson was strong again.
Speaker 1: Three touchdowns through the year and one receiving on a
Speaker 1: pitch play. Brady had some yardage late to try to
Speaker 1: get them back in the game. Three touchdowns and an interception,
Speaker 1: but Watson showing off again. This is uh, this is
Speaker 1: a pretty good Texans team right now, and they're getting
Speaker 1: healthy in the secondary, which makes them play better. It
Speaker 1: helps that New England can't run, but they played better
Speaker 1: in defense. That's a big win for the Texas because
Speaker 1: they Bill O'Brien was oh and five against the Patriots
Speaker 1: and and to win that game is important for him.
Speaker 1: And obviously look out close at division races. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be right down of the wire. Are the Patriots?
Speaker 1: I mean I when we bury the Patriots at least
Speaker 1: once a year, usually not this late. I don't, but
Speaker 1: most people do. Are you are you. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: they do play the Chiefs this week though at Oh,
Speaker 1: think about this, Tony, if the somehow not somehow, because
Speaker 1: it's possible if the Bills beat the Ravens this week
Speaker 1: at home and the Patriots lose to the Chiefs at home,
Speaker 1: the Bills will be tied for first place. But it's
Speaker 1: still playing with it later on the season in Buffalo. Like, well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Even if Buffalo loses this game and
Speaker 1: the Patriots both lose, they're only one game back and
Speaker 1: they play each other at the end of the season.
Speaker 1: If the Buffalo Bills wouldn't beat them, they'd split the
Speaker 1: split the senior season series. So you have to go
Speaker 1: to division a bunch of tie breakers. I mean it's
Speaker 1: not I mean there's a lot of football left to
Speaker 1: be playing the AFC East. Yeah, Patriots have issues. You
Speaker 1: watch the game. They I think they can't run, so
Speaker 1: they double Edelman. In the past, when you doubled Edelman,
Speaker 1: you could throw the grock because he or he was
Speaker 1: getting double when you can throw it Edelman. Now they
Speaker 1: don't have anybody else to throw to run because I mean,
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle got away from it. They got away from
Speaker 1: the line isn't as good either, but they got it.
Speaker 1: He ran right off the batty. He was running running.
Speaker 1: Then they got away from it. I don't understand why
Speaker 1: they did that, all right, the division standings look like this,
Speaker 1: Houston at eight and four leading the way three and
Speaker 1: one in the division, Tennessee making a move at seven
Speaker 1: and five, two and two in the ANFC South, Indiant
Speaker 1: six and six, and the Jags at the bottom of
Speaker 1: four and eight. Well, I mean, the power rankings are
Speaker 1: the rankings. Uh, Tennessee is playing good football, and Houston
Speaker 1: saw us to play there. I think they go to
Speaker 1: Tennessee from the play him. They play him twice Tonty
Speaker 1: in the last three weeks. And don't be shocked. I
Speaker 1: think Titans are the better team right now. If the Titans,
Speaker 1: who are physical and run the ball, don't be shocked
Speaker 1: at the end of the season if they're at the
Speaker 1: top of the division. I'm not I'm not igreting it,
Speaker 1: but just don't be shocked if it happens. I think
Speaker 1: it will happen. Do you think, I think? But yeah
Speaker 1: so you so. If you're doing power rankings, you have
Speaker 1: Tennessee as one. Houston is too, oh right, all right, now, man,
Speaker 1: maybe I might put them ahead of them. You just
Speaker 1: said they're a better team. That was an oppressive winless
Speaker 1: like for Houston, though, I I got. I mean they're
Speaker 1: close for me. I just they played twice in the
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna decide it. Indianapolis has had problems with
Speaker 1: for sept the last couple of weeks. M There you
Speaker 1: have it. The AFC South. The Jags are no longer contenders. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that division, I think are contenders in the division. Look
Speaker 1: four and four if they would have made a run
Speaker 1: through that next month. Sure at four and fourth if
Speaker 1: they went three straight over the Titans, the Titans, the Bengals,
Speaker 1: the Broncos, and the Jets. Oh and the Titans, now
Speaker 1: looks like a good win because that's the only team
Speaker 1: that has a winning record that well. They it was
Speaker 1: not the Tanny Hill Titans. It was the Mariota Titans.
Speaker 1: And it was a game that we got the early turnover,
Speaker 1: jumped up the muff, jumped on fast and kind of
Speaker 1: just rode the momentum till the end and slowed down
Speaker 1: so they could actually so maybe the Jaguars could have
Speaker 1: the first overall pick if they had lost that game piece. Well,
Speaker 1: the Bengals aren't winning another game, are they. They played
Speaker 1: Miami again, so somebody's got to win another one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's come back. Let's look around the rest of the
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jaguar's Happy our final moments here, j P. Shadrick,
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Pete Priscoe, and yet again, if we had
Speaker 1: the in commercial unfiltered podcast, it would be a hit.
Speaker 1: Pete Wood, Pete before we go around the league all,
Speaker 1: you know, joking and tongue in cheek, you know. Put aside,
Speaker 1: how do you see this thing playing out the last
Speaker 1: four weeks here? I think Benshew will will be the
Speaker 1: start of the entire four week stretch and he should be.
Speaker 1: I think you'll play well in a couple of games,
Speaker 1: and average and others. I don't think they're gonna win
Speaker 1: a game. Uh, you know, maybe one, one, and three
Speaker 1: down a stretch and then you're gonna see wholesale changes
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. That's that's how I
Speaker 1: see it playing out. I mean, it's not it's not.
Speaker 1: If you want reality, I'm not arguing with you, but
Speaker 1: it's a long four weeks. It's going to be a
Speaker 1: long four weeks. Our show, this show on Monday will
Speaker 1: make for a long four weeks because we're gonna say
Speaker 1: the same thing over and over again, which means JP,
Speaker 1: we gotta start looking at the draft, yes, at some
Speaker 1: point and free agents. Well, I think at some point
Speaker 1: you the coaching staff can't do this because you just
Speaker 1: gotta keep on fighting. That's right. But I'll tell you
Speaker 1: the thing you do. Worry about it as as an organization.
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's continues to go the path that
Speaker 1: Bete just said, it's obvious that like changes, wholesale changes
Speaker 1: are gonna be made. The danger on every staff is
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, those guys are starting to spend
Speaker 1: as much time looking for their next gig, which is
Speaker 1: which is natural and understand them, but they got families.
Speaker 1: They got families. I'm not being critical of them. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it's not good. That's the worst part of
Speaker 1: a coaching firing. Look the head coach, he made a
Speaker 1: lot of money, can deal with it. He'll move on.
Speaker 1: It's like the younger guys who have young families and
Speaker 1: they got and then they signed up with their profession,
Speaker 1: so you know what you're getting into. But it's never
Speaker 1: easy on the families when you get fired like that.
Speaker 1: They gotta go scramble to find other jobs and hope,
Speaker 1: like you can stay in in in the NFL, it's tough,
Speaker 1: not fun. You get you, you get hired, You become
Speaker 1: a coach knowing that you're probably gonna get They all
Speaker 1: get fired, right, everybody gets fired. Tom Goffer got fired
Speaker 1: in New York and he want two Super Bowls. Yes,
Speaker 1: now he resigned. Oh that's right, technically yeah, okay. Let's
Speaker 1: go around the National Football League and recap all these games.
Speaker 1: Let's starting Thanksgiving the Airs over the Lions. The Bears
Speaker 1: come away with Risky started playing better in the second half,
Speaker 1: made some plays, made some throws. Two games in a row,
Speaker 1: he's played better. Yeah, I agree, he's trending in the
Speaker 1: right direction there, six and six. It's it's a long
Speaker 1: shof for them to get the wild card just because
Speaker 1: of how strong I mean you have, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you have the two teams in the NFC West. They're
Speaker 1: not getting the wild card. Both are tenant too. You
Speaker 1: have Really they're gonna be fighting for the Rams, I guess, Pete, no,
Speaker 1: because you have them, the Vikings and the Packers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bills over the Cowboys. Emotional Jerry Jones after the games
Speaker 1: these days, Well, that's another job that's gonna be open,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, even if they go to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: unless they make a playoff run, I don't see Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones bringing Jason Garrett back. Pete, I don't either, And
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go big and try and get
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. That's what I think he's gonna right up
Speaker 1: the road. And by the way, let's give John mcdermock credit.
Speaker 1: Guy has done an unbelievable job with that team. Buffalo
Speaker 1: is a good team, and he's a good coach. And
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's becoming a good quarterback like some of us
Speaker 1: predicted he would. And you you keep on saying that,
Speaker 1: and for anyone who doesn't know the reason, he keeps
Speaker 1: on bringing up Josh Allen because he was saying in
Speaker 1: that draft that he was the best quarterback, and it
Speaker 1: did look so good for a while, especially at the
Speaker 1: beginning of this year, and now that he's playing well,
Speaker 1: Pete Brisco not afraid to pat himself on the back,
Speaker 1: will make sure. I always thought he would be the
Speaker 1: best of that draft. He's not the best in that draft,
Speaker 1: by the way, No Lamar Jackson is, but Josh Allen
Speaker 1: might end up being. Remember the Jackson Bills met just
Speaker 1: two seasons and go in the playoffs going different directions.
Speaker 1: Since Thanksgiving Night game, you had this one Tony Saints
Speaker 1: over the Falcons. Not a very good game at all.
Speaker 1: The Saints weren't very good offensively. Give the Falcons credit,
Speaker 1: but the Falcons have major issue. Their offensive line is
Speaker 1: not very good at all. They couldn't block anybody. He
Speaker 1: got brutalized in that game. He got abused, They had
Speaker 1: no Julio Jones. They're not a very good football team.
Speaker 1: That's another team. I think there's gonna be wholesale changes.
Speaker 1: It's gonna The only reason there's a hope that there
Speaker 1: won't be is because how much Arthur Blank likes Thomas
Speaker 1: de Meatroff and Dan Quinn. But that was a Thursday
Speaker 1: night primetime game on Thanksgiving Division rivals, and it was
Speaker 1: the stadium was half filled. Can't have that game of
Speaker 1: the week in the NFL. The Ravens over the forty
Speaker 1: nine seventeen the last second field goal. Lamar Jackson solidifying
Speaker 1: his m VP front running status if it wasn't already
Speaker 1: solidified right now. But let's not just give it to
Speaker 1: him quite yet. He's he is the front runner, but
Speaker 1: a guy named Russell Wilson, who will see on Monday
Speaker 1: Night football, is having a great year too. I think
Speaker 1: it's down to either one of those two. Is the
Speaker 1: m v P. Last two weeks, he's tailed off a bit.
Speaker 1: He's a statistic I agree. I think Lamar is the
Speaker 1: front runner, there's no doubt about it. But I think
Speaker 1: that game said as much about the forty niners and
Speaker 1: what type of team they are. Go across the country
Speaker 1: at ten am kickoff their local time, terrible weather, wet rain.
Speaker 1: Baltimore is a good football team, tough place to play,
Speaker 1: and it took everything the Ravens had. And by the
Speaker 1: way the forty nine are slowed down, they're the first
Speaker 1: team that really slowed down that offense. That's a good
Speaker 1: football team. And don't be surprised if the two teams
Speaker 1: we just saw we're seeing in Miami in the Super Bowl. Hey.
Speaker 1: By the way, one quick thing about Lamar Jackson. In
Speaker 1: a million years, did you ever think that a guy
Speaker 1: would throw up a hundred thirty yards and we'd be
Speaker 1: talking about him as the MTB because the problem is
Speaker 1: he rushed Redskins over the Panthers. Yes, another job that'd
Speaker 1: be opened both those guys. I think both those teams
Speaker 1: have new head coaches next year. Uh. The Panthers aren't
Speaker 1: a very good team. They have a great player on
Speaker 1: Christie McCaffrey. You know, Kyle Allen has tailed off a
Speaker 1: little bit. And to lose that game they had to lead,
Speaker 1: but to lose to the Redskins the way they did,
Speaker 1: I do not see uh uh. David Tapper, the owner
Speaker 1: of the Carolina Panthers, sticking with Ron Rivera. They can't
Speaker 1: stop the run at all. By the way, terrible The
Speaker 1: black Cat ran on the field of Monday Night Football
Speaker 1: in November four. Since then, teams with cat mascots were
Speaker 1: winless oh and twelve. Coming into the weekend. The Bengals
Speaker 1: snapped that though they got their first win of the
Speaker 1: year and broke the curse all at one time. There's
Speaker 1: no such thing as a black Cat curse. That's ridiculous
Speaker 1: and foolish. But congratulations to the Bengals getting off the
Speaker 1: schneide and for Zach Taylor getting his first career win
Speaker 1: as a head coach. And Darna was terrible, terrible the
Speaker 1: other yesterday, Dolphins over the Eagles. Dolphins in that game
Speaker 1: can't happen, Philly, cannot happen. But give it the dog.
Speaker 1: I mean, Brian Flores, I mean, everyone was killing them
Speaker 1: that they're taking and you talk to people in that
Speaker 1: building think it was even Dan Marino said something of
Speaker 1: how well he has got those guys prepared and to
Speaker 1: play hard. They're not very talented, but they play hard.
Speaker 1: I agree, But when from the Eagle standpoint, there's no
Speaker 1: way you could be and allow that game to happen.
Speaker 1: The way that secondary for the Eagles is the trocious.
Speaker 1: So Pete, they're really bad. Yes, they had played better
Speaker 1: than the last couple of weeks, and they were terrible yesterday.
Speaker 1: Let's get through the final few games. Your Packers over
Speaker 1: the Giants and the snow in New York the Steelers
Speaker 1: over the Browns. But stop real quick. Pete is Freddy
Speaker 1: Kitchens in trouble, Yes, he is in trouble. Rams over
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, Big Broncos over the Chargers. Wild ending there
Speaker 1: with a pass interference call. Terrible call. You don't call
Speaker 1: that in that situation, but it was. It was just
Speaker 1: an awful call. Over officiated. Let him play. It was
Speaker 1: first of all, Casey Hayward was looking back at the ball.
Speaker 1: You don't call that in the middle of the second quarter.
Speaker 1: You clearly don't call that. In the final seconds, you
Speaker 1: don't call that. Ever, Chiefs over there is forty to nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Raiders were terrible. So much for the idea that the
Speaker 1: Raiders could compete the last two weeks kinda ruin that.
Speaker 1: It's a monster match up on Monday Night football, a
Speaker 1: pair of teams trying to keep pace at the top
Speaker 1: of their respective divisions. A suddenly resurgent Kirk Cousins has
Speaker 1: twenty one touchdowns and only three picks as he leads
Speaker 1: the eight and three Minnesota Vikings into the Pacific Northwest
Speaker 1: to face Russell Wilson, who's falling a little bit off
Speaker 1: that m v P pace, but still has his Seattle
Speaker 1: Seahawks team at nine and two. Who you got tonight
Speaker 1: in Seattle? Another great Monday night matchup. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: years passed, Monday Night football had fallen off. They weren't
Speaker 1: giving them very good games in my opinion, but this
Speaker 1: is another great one. I think the Vikings are really
Speaker 1: good and Kirk Cousins is playing good football. They have
Speaker 1: two outstanding receivers and one of my favorite backs in
Speaker 1: the NFL and Delvin cuk Uh. They can rush the
Speaker 1: pastor going to Seattle's tough, tough place to play, but
Speaker 1: I think the Vikes win a close game to Wow.
Speaker 1: Pete no feeling tonight though. Tony he's out, so he's
Speaker 1: got the hamstring injury. He's not gonna play. That hurts them. Plus,
Speaker 1: here's all you need to know, Kirk Cousins, big game,
Speaker 1: prime time on the road. You know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Seattle and Russell Wilson are gonna light them up. They're
Speaker 1: gonna win the game easily. I like Seattle all right, easily.
Speaker 1: Ten ten points? Wow, ten points Pete, Prisco, have a
Speaker 1: great week. We'll talk to you next week. Tony's down,
Speaker 1: I'm down. You're right. I am this Pete Frisco out
Speaker 1: of here. You guys all right, man, Tony, we'll talk
Speaker 1: to you soon. Looking forward to it. Have a good one, yes,
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