WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, December 2 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:07.720 Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football Touchdown jackonbel Touchdown 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:19.160 Path from Cornel. It's Monday, December two. This is check 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:25.560 Wars Happy Hour, Jack Wars Happy Hours presented by Jet 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:29.920 Home Loans. And now a guy who's only culture comes 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:38.280 from Yogurt, Jane yes Um, Welcome in Jaguar's Happy Our 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:42.519 presented by Jet Home Loans. My name's J P. Shadrick. 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.400 His name is Tony Boselli. His name is Pete Prisco. 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.800 Here's what's coming up in the program today. Bucketeers twenty 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.159 eight Jaguars eleven will recap this football game all the 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:57.920 way through a quarterback change at halftime and now beyond. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:01.360 Gardner Minshew will be the quarterback this coming Sunday against 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.600 the Los Angeles Chargers. Doug Maron announced it today. The 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:08.880 defensive depth tested yesterday. We'll see how those guys stepped 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.280 up and played social media questions. They are piled up 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:16.080 today at AFC South Review. I guess the Jags are 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.440 out of the race and around the National Football League. 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.720 That's all coming up with the biggest news today, of course, 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.600 the change of quarterback. Gardner Minshew will be the strutter 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:30.560 this week after coming in at halftime against the Bucks 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.560 yesterday and finishing the game. Doug Maron said it on 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.280 his conference call today, but boy, that first half guys 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:42.360 six possessions, three turnovers three three and ounce no juice 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:46.040 at all in the stadium in the first half. Now, listen, 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:51.800 it was as bad a start as you probably could have. Uh, 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.280 coming off the three losses in the division, coming home 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:58.040 for the first time, and with thirty five days, thirty 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.640 eight days, whatever it was, you was London and the 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.400 bye week, we're in there, and to start the game 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:08.720 the way you did offensively, I mean, it was it 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:12.960 was just it was surreal as far as the lack 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.079 of energy in the stadium, which you can't I mean, 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:17.480 that's not on and we set it before you had. 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.880 I mean, the fans are ticked, they're unhappy, rightfully so, 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.280 and so it's not on them. And and we talked 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:26.120 about it that it's imperative for the players to come 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.359 out and create the energy and get things going. And 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:33.000 they did not. And it started. It starts with the quarterback, uh, 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.040 Nick Foles and how he performed, and it just kind 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.560 of trickled down throughout the rest of the offense. Defensively, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:42.200 they hung in there. You know. Yes, they gave up 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.720 twenty five points in the first half, but a bunch 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.919 of turnovers. One of those was to pick six fumble 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.840 return scoop score. So it's really eighteen points you gave up. 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.280 But still it's uh and it's not just a quarterback. 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.200 I mean the offensive line I think probably had their 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.400 worst day in my opinion. Uh. If you if you 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.320 heard Doug Morone today, Pete, you're with us all right? 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.680 High Pete? How are you? Um? I'm good. By the way, 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:10.720 they might be the worst team in the league right now. 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:15.280 The worst they might be. You can make a case 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:19.200 for it. How so, well, what do they do well? 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:26.040 Do they do anything? Well? Um m hm, well they 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.480 have did you put it that way, Pete? DJ harks 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:33.160 you know top five and something in the a f 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.200 C and Leonard Ford they catch they catch the ball 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.480 out of the backfield. Well, it's like number two rushing 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.640 in the FC or maybe what are they doing well 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:47.240 right now? As do we? As we speak of right now? Well, 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:52.000 I mean, I mean you have to be doing something. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:56.000 Happy if you have asked you as you were stumped 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.720 you have you're stumped again, I'm not stumped. I'm just 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:02.880 thinking through to have a precise answer before I give 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.560 it to you. I mean, what's Leonard for that they 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.160 can punt well? Logan Cook's having a great year? There 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:14.000 you go, Okay, Leonard for Dad's leading the anc and rushing? 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.560 Is he still he's close there? Let me check? So 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:20.880 you have what do you have yesterday? Leonard yesterday had 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:24.760 thirty eight yards rushing on fourteen carries. What are they 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.440 doing well right now? But he also had fifty three 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:31.760 yards receiving on nine catches. What are they doing well 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:36.360 right now? Um? It's fair. I mean when you lose 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.040 four in a row the way they've lost four in 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:43.200 a row, nothing is going right and nothing is very good. 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:45.240 But I mean I think you, I mean, you look 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:49.120 at boy. This is I don't even I don't even 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:50.800 want to say this. But if you look at say 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.040 a number of teams around the NFL who aren't being 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:56.320 a aren't performing at a high level right now? I mean, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:00.120 what do the Bengals do well? What do what an 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:04.240 adult better at quarterback? Right now? Yesterday? I get that 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.000 I'm saying, but is there anything If you're the Bengals, 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:11.800 you're hanging your hat on right now. Probably not Tony, 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.039 but this team can't hang its out on anything right now. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:17.480 That's I agree with you. When you're losing, that's that's 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:27.600 that's the reality. At least one yesterday, Dophins one yesterday. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:35.200 The Dolphins won yesterday. Yeah, Redskins. I understand that just 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.400 because you win one game, or lose one game, or 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.679 lose four in a row like we have is good. 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.839 It's awful. It is awful. With the capital Ay, we 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.880 talked about that last week. We said that. I said it. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.640 I said, it's my worst team in the league right now, 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.640 and I said it three weeks ago. If they don't, 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:58.479 if they don't play better and they continue to play 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.520 the way they are, they won't win an other game. 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.440 I mean, you can't. I mean, so the defense plays better. 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:10.719 They actually held you know, Tampa under all their season averages. Offensively, 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.479 especially in the second half. They played well. And but 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:16.599 then all of a sudden, you look up and you 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:20.320 have four turnovers in an offense and you can't score points. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.839 This team doesn't score any points, and it continues to 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.880 be a problem. They didn't score points last year, they're 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.359 not score points this year. They have. They have a 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.520 total of thirteen points in the first half in the 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:36.000 last four games. And so it's not just defense, it's 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:40.080 not just the offense, it's all of it. It's it's 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:43.360 a it's an awful product on the field right now. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.039 There's no way to sugarcoat it. And the heart and 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.040 then you got and then you got the Alba jaws. 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.640 You got a contract for a guy that you're pention 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.440 that is out of this world. It me, it's a disaster. 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.480 Well that is what it is. I mean, there's nothing 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:01.320 you can do about that. I know what it is. 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.680 It's not good. It's not good, but it's it's it's 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.720 a cost that's paid. There's nothing you can do about it. 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.599 So like you shouldn't play a guy just because of 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:12.640 his contract if he's not play him. But that's just it. 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.360 It's it's it's the whole thing is a disaster right now. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.800 And and there's no silver lining. There's nothing you can 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.040 sit there and say, oh, well, at least they have 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.000 this guy, or at least they have no you have 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.920 a quarterback that paid all that money that's now going 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:29.840 to restrict your ability to do things with the salary cap. Well, 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:31.600 they're gonna have plenty of cap room at the end 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:36.320 of this year. I meant million of it on the 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:40.040 cap for for him, agreed. And there's nothing you can 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.160 do about that. You can beg somebody to do an 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.080 Oswiler deal and trade him, and I hope you trade. 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.560 They trade a third round pick to get him off 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.080 the books or something like that. Yeah, I don't think 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:54.080 that's gonna happen. Um. And the I mean, when you 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.120 say there's nothing to hang your hat on, there's no 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.800 good I mean, they do have some good young players. 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.080 They do, and Josh Allen being one of them. And 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:06.000 of them, that's right, they have good young They have 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:11.400 some good young players. Um. And I can't believe. I can't. 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.120 I can't believe I'm the one going there. But as 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.960 you look for the future and then when it comes 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.240 to you know, the draft and free agency and everything else, 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:22.640 there are a bunch of holes and there's a bunch 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.400 of areas that need to be addressed. And can you 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.200 can you address those in one year? No? No, that's 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.880 the chance. And so that's where it gets frustrating. And 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.679 that's where it gets you. You look at it, you're like, dang, 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.480 how did. How did how did we get here so quickly? 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:48.320 M Yeah, that was a question. Player procuremid that's the 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.760 easy thing to do. Players. You gotta build players. You 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.800 gotta find the right players. You know that, Tony, you 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:57.360 can have the greatest coach in the world. Theydn't have 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:01.280 any players. He didn't win it. No, I agree. I 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:05.520 mean it's a tough situation. It's continued, but by the way, 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.199 we haven't. We haven't done the show since Tom's little 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:12.840 press conference last week. What the hell was that? Well? 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.360 I think there's been there's been articles written about it, 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.280 Pete that I'm sure you saw. There's been a lot 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.679 of talk about it. It was not received very well. Yeah, 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.480 I did not. I don't think it went over well. 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.480 It didn't look much better after this weekend either. The 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.640 fans didn't like it. I don't think the media like that. 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.200 They jumped on it. It was I didn't I didn't 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:35.240 say anyone should. What was your biggest issue with it? 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:40.000 Standards and never saying anything. That went to a new 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:44.040 hyde of never saying anything. He didn't say one thing. Nothing. 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.600 I didn't say one thing other than to plour the 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:48.600 fans to pay and go to the game. He did not. 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.160 And believe me, I've been around that guy a long 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:56.040 long time and I've dealt with him not saying anything. 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.839 By far and away. That was the worst instance of 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.040 I'm not saying a thing. He didn't say one thing, 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:10.760 didn't dress anything, didn't say anything. You No, I did 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:12.640 not come across right. I don't think it was the 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.720 message was communicated very well. Whatever the message that was 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:20.920 trying to be uh conveyed um and it didn't help anything. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:23.920 But don't you think he needs to go up there 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.120 and answer the questions and not get coimbative about it. 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:31.920 Just to answer the questions, You're gonna open yourself self 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.400 up to that, which, by the way, I don't know. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.200 Was he forced to do it, Did he want to 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.360 do it that? You don't know. But if you're gonna 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:41.520 open yourself up that way, answer the questions, you would 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:46.720 have been underneath a rock for the entire season. Answer 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:51.240 the questions well. And I would tell him if he 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:52.760 walked in front of me, I tell him the same thing. 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.160 I know you would be. I'll say this, I think 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:58.800 you don't have to answer all the questions, but you 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:00.800 have to answer some of the questions and the hard 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:04.079 part was and it was set off by the one 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:08.640 of the early questions about Jalen Ramsey, and Tom's response was, 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.040 I don't want to He's not on this team. I 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.280 don't want to talk about him. The problem with that 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.800 is it should have been addressed when the trade was 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:17.520 made and then it's put to bed and you don't 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.680 have to talk about it again. We talked about that 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.240 on this show and it didn't happen then, so that 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:26.839 kind of started the entire communication between Tom and the press, 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:28.440 and then you know, you started asking about the coach 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.080 and what are you gonna do with that now? I 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.600 for one, and maybe you could have said it differently. 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.680 If you're Tom, if you're asked about whether you're gonna 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.680 you know what your evaluation of Doug Morone is right now. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.600 The answer is that it's an ongoing process and we'll 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.079 continue to evaluate and the decision we made at the 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.240 end of the year that would have been fine. I mean, 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.920 he said it differently, but I'm not sure what else 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:53.920 is he is supposed to say when you start asking 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:58.760 about the job status of the head coach, Well that 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.760 I understand me and the other nobody would answer that 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.960 question right and then but the other hard part is 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.320 is you don't want to come across and I think 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.520 some of the people got frustrated is imploring the fans. 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:15.800 Obviously that drove the fans crazy, and going over statistics 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:20.480 of young players doing good things because nobody wants to 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.560 hear that right now, even if it's true. I'm not 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:27.440 saying I mean, Josh Allen's a good player. It's almost 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:31.880 like you're pat yourself on the back. So you can't 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.520 do those things because you set yourself up for what happened. 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.360 I mean, if you get out, I mean the conversation 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.520 is answer the jams question because you didn't do it before, 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:43.760 and then you go on saying it's not good enough 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.800 and needs to get better, and it starts with me 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:48.920 and it goes down to the organization. I mean, that's 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:50.440 the only thing you can say at that and then 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.120 you answer the questions the best you can. What did 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.520 you guys think of Doug last week? Saying that there 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.440 was internal questions about the way he handled training. Again, 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.200 that was clearly a shot at Coughland. Well, that was 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:07.760 the day before the cold press conference. It was clearly 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:12.520 a shot at the other coach and my question is done. Well, 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:15.079 that's part of the problem, the other coach, or should 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:20.199 be only one coach. I don't know what Doug gains 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:26.280 by saying that at this point. Well he's going out 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:30.200 the door. Why not take I'm going down, You're going 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.120 down with me. Well, if that's the case, then it's 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.800 gonna be an ugly four weeks. It will be an 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.160 ugly four weeks. Of course, it's going to be an ugly, 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:42.319 disgusting in in fight he saw fighting between players yesterday 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.880 or arguments. It's going to be bad for the next 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.360 four weeks. Tony, There's no doubt about it. You can't 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:53.160 sugarcoat it. Even you, in your captain sunshine ways can't 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:58.000 sugar You just can't. I'm not trying to. By the way, 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.760 have I tried Have I sugarcoated anything to last three weeks? 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:06.600 I mean one thing I sugarcoated. We'll all think about 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.960 it because the fans know, they'll know, they'll they'll tweet 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.720 at Tony Boselliot tell them what do you? Go ahead 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.760 and tell me what do I sugarcoaded? Pete Will this 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:17.640 team won another football game this year? They might have 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.680 an accident and win one but other than that, no, 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.160 they stick. They're bad. It's a bad team. Come on, 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.880 let's be real. They can win this week. By the way, 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.080 the charges are coming across the country there four and eight. 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.800 They just lost the Broncos. They're awful on offense, I 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.640 mean just atrocious. They can't score points and they turn 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.000 it over. So, yeah, you think, do you think they'll 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:50.080 win this week? Don't you know? I get locked the Chargers. 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:54.040 You're the most You're just lock him for the Okay, 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.440 next week, Okay, it's a winnable game, But do you 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.600 think they'll win it? I don't. Okay, what's the next one? 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.920 But you agree with me that Argers aren't very good 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.520 right now? No, but they got pass rushers, they got 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.800 Dirdwin James back. Philip Rivers is a better quarterback than 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.000 what Jacksonville has. Hold hold on a couple of things there. 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.720 Philip Rivers is having a bad year. He's having a 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:14.560 bad year. He's still better than what they have. He 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.800 was threatened to be benched by Anthony Lynn. Basically, yeah, 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.040 he's better than what they have. I do worry about 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:24.920 their defense because I mean Joey Bosat Melvin Ingram, especially 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:28.360 after what I just watched on tape Gardner better to 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.720 be able to be mobile, start running right now. Um, 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.000 and Derwin James is back. They're much better on the 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:39.160 back half with him obviously. So yeah, I'm not saying 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:42.280 I wouldn't favor us to win the game if uh, 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:46.600 for entertainment purposes, Yeah, if for entertainment purposes only. And 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.120 the next read the next three. Then next the next 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.080 week you go to Atlanta. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Tony, 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:53.600 you do have a little schedule. What are you talking. 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.640 That's tough. They're not good, but that's that's gonna be 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.440 a dreadful trip. You know the history of that. Nothing 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:05.720 to play a game at the call, see if you 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:07.640 think that place will be going a little bit. And 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:11.280 then at Atlanta. Yes, Atlanta is not better than them. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.200 Atlanta is no good, but they're not better than them. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.480 And then home against the Colts and the culture probably 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.680 needed to stay in the race. They're not playing well, 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.680 but they're not winning again, and that would be that 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.440 would be a bad thing to be a high draft thing. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.800 They're up. Don't draft yet, Pete, So they're gonna well 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.080 we might we eliminated yet well, no, we are. It's 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:39.040 we're officially not I have officially eliminated you have, Yes, 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.640 we are, really, I'm officially eliminated from the playoffs. So 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.680 four wins, four and twelve will get you what a 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.000 top five pick? Probably, So you're so you're gonna go 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.320 on an eight game losing. You're gonna fish the season 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:55.800 by losing eight straight games? Yes, oh, four and eight 0:16:56.200 --> 0:17:01.840 might get you the way things are going, the number three, yeah, 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.920 four pair, So we should start eyeing the draft. Then 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:09.920 oh gosh, oh no, it's December. Second, it would be 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:11.800 the first Where do you want to dress? First? Peet? 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:17.280 Where would you gone? First? And foremost? Tackle? I would 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.920 actually think I've started the defensive line, but uh, there's 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.879 big I'm going big one way or another? Yeah, one 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:26.800 way or the other. Two big people in the first 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:30.600 two picks. We gotta we're gonna have to talk about 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.720 that offensive line a little bit tony because back is 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:37.000 an issue. Well, Pete, we've talked, Pete. I mean, I 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.080 love cam but we talked about it from the start 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.159 of the year. There was concerns we talked about on 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.640 the Thursday Show with Jeff beat You and I've talked 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:48.280 about it and it's a it's an issue right now, 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.480 and it's not gonna be easy. You talk about a 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.240 matchup that is not favorable for us, the way Cam 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:55.440 is playing right now, it's gonna be tough for Cam. 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.320 And I feel, you know, I hate talking, you know, 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.879 I love protecting those guys and love being, you know, 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:01.639 being in their corner. But right now, it is what 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:05.919 it is. And with Joey Bosa coming, Holy Cow, and 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.200 Melvin Ingram is a good pass rusher as well, and 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.680 Juwan Taylor had the worst game of his uh of 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:16.200 his young career. Now, I think play well yesterday either penalties, 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:20.080 uh yeah, penalties and some leakage in the second half 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.800 and pass protection. Yeah, it was not good. All right, 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.240 we'll get back to the old line a little bit later. 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.920 We'll come. We have to had enough line talk, right, No, 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:37.600 it was not at all j of them. You are 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.800 amazing at this job. I mean, you really nail things, 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:46.600 so are you, Tony. Thanks a lot for that back 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.880 a moment defensive talk. A little bit later, we'll get 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.639 back to the quarterback change as well. 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Like I said before, 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:43.480 We're gonna find a way and get get a good 0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:45.119 taste in our mouth and look to see what we 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.320 gotta get do differently, look to see if there's something 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.560 that we can build on, look to see if there's 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:52.000 something that can get us over the top. And then 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.160 you know, go out there and compete our asses off 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:58.080 and that's all you can do. Head coach Dug Marone 0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:02.280 yesterday after the Jags lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:05.280 Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans, 0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:08.880 j P Shadrick, Tony Baselli, Pete Prisco, Glad you're along 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:11.840 with us social media questions. A little bit later, You've 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:15.520 asked Pete for people to tweet in and say, what 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:19.000 Tony is sugarcoatd this year? No, not this year. The 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:22.960 last few weeks Okay, well yeah, um, well, if you 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.080 extended it to this year, you wouldn't you have about 0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:30.960 eight responsible this the last month. Okay, got it. Somebody said, 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:34.119 somebody said Tony is sugarcoated. How horrible Andrew Norwell has 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:36.959 played this season. That's not true. So like number one 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:38.879 Pete said it last week, he's the thirteenth rade of 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:43.840 guard in the NFL. Um Oh, now you're going, I'm 0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:47.159 just saying that. I don't. I'm saying, but he is. 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:55.320 He's about seventeen sixteenth raded guard. He's middle of the back. Okay, no, 0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:57.320 that's not middle of the pack. He was. He was 0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.399 terrible as he played. He played bad yesterday. There's sixty 0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:06.080 four guards in this league regular basis. He's in the 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:10.600 upper He's in the upper third of guards. So to 0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.320 say he is horrible is not accurate. And any fan 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.040 that and actually don't really want to do this, like 0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.520 wants to sit down and watch the tape and understand 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:22.439 what is going on and watch him actually play. That's fine, 0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:25.960 but you they're not doing that. They're going off you know, 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:29.159 a penalty here, a bad play there. You have to 0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:30.760 look at the entire thing because I could go do 0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.800 that with every offensive alignment in the league. And I'm 0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:36.479 not like he was bad. He played He played poor. Yo. 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:42.679 You think Can was better yesterday? Hey, j Uh, I 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:46.159 don't think any of them played well. Well, somebody had 0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:47.879 to be the best. It looked like I didn't know. 0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:49.560 I don't watch the tape, but I look like a J. 0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:52.760 Was better than all of them. Okay, a J or 0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:57.359 Linda because the other three didn't play well. Bunch of 0:24:57.400 --> 0:24:59.920 penalties up front yesterday, because we have sixteen penalties on 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.320 the scene, which is the second most of the single 0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:07.320 game in franchise history. I thought we were going to defense. No, 0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:11.639 we're on you. We're here now, We're in it, all right. 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:16.240 So that's the next year, going in the next year, 0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:21.000 going going into next year, Taylor will be the right tackle. 0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.639 Is he the only guy? Are sure to being in 0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:28.720 this spot? Good question, No, because you can't change everybody. 0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:33.720 And so Brandon Linder will be your center. I guess 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.440 a J. Cand will be your right guard. Will Richardson 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.640 Um he had a bad day well as well yesterday, 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.800 did not play well. He'll be here. You'll be your 0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:44.600 left guard. Probably, I don't know, because here's the thing. 0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:48.000 Can you. You have so many holes to fill where 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:49.280 I sit right now, if you go through that the 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:53.400 entire roster of what you have to fill, you only 0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:56.800 have so many draft picks to do it with. And 0:25:56.880 --> 0:25:59.480 so I'm not saying Andrew Noel is worth the money 0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:01.200 you're paying him right now. You're paying him a lot. 0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:03.280 But we've talked about that's what happens in free agency. 0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:06.080 But I don't think you can just sit here today 0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:09.720 and say Andrew no Well is gone. That's not accurate. 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.840 Like you have to look at other places you have 0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:16.320 to fill and fix. And if Andrew Oil is one 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:20.320 of your more consistent offensive linemen, are you just gonna 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.119 get rid of him because you're mad how much you 0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:25.960 had to pay him two years ago? I don't think so. 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:28.360 Now it has to be addressed. You have to look 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.720 at it. Can you restructure it, can you do things? 0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:35.320 Or can you find somebody as good or better? Then 0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:37.280 you make the change. But until you know that, you 0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.520 just can't just say get rid of him because I 0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:42.080 don't like the deal we signed him to, even though 0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:46.840 he's probably playing consistently one of the better linement that 0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:51.480 we have. His cap hit next year is fourteen million dollars, 0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:54.560 So you gotta look at it. I mean, Pete, you 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.600 know this all the time. Guys, you're restructured. I mean, 0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:00.160 now that's a that's a whole another issue. If he's 0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:03.480 willing to restructure than then okay, but his capit is 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.360 fourteen million dollars. They save nine by sending a packet. 0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.960 I'm just saying, but you understand, you just can't start 0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.479 getting rid of guys until you have someone to replace them. 0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.959 There's only so many holes you can fill in each offseason. Right, 0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.520 let me correct myself. They don't say they save five 0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:22.040 and a half, so he's probably not worth gutting. Okay, 0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.440 So I guess the bigger picture on this, right is 0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.840 who's making all these decisions. There might be different decision 0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.800 makers that have different ideas on right, I mean, this 0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:36.200 all might be a what a different system that they 0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.080 don't fit into. Well, then you have to make wholesale changes. 0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.560 You can't do that one year either, obviously, you can't. 0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:44.800 You have to kind of build it out of based 0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.200 on unless you just say, you know what, we're gonna 0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.320 go super young and we're just gonna take and I 0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.359 don't think you can do that. The offensive line, especially 0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:52.840 if you're gonna be going with a young quarterback and 0:27:52.880 --> 0:28:00.160 gardner Minshew cam Robins to be here next year. He's 0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.920 under contract, but he's got it. I mean. The thing 0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.560 that concerns me and it's he's coming off in a 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.560 c L. So I know that's hard. But I see 0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:15.200 the same bad habits of leaning, turning, dropping his left 0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.600 foot when he punches, you know, giving up the edges 0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:22.919 that we've seen for the last three years. I've not 0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.840 seen improvement in those areas. And that's what you would 0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:32.200 know better than me. Could he go to guard? Um, 0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.960 I don't know. And he's kind of got a nasty 0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:39.080 streak in it, and he has mentality where if you've 0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.200 got a body n body, you might be able to 0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.800 handle it, you know. I don't know. So here's the thing. 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:47.080 This is what I don't know. Is he physically strong 0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:51.320 enough big enough? Sure one, does he want to play guard? 0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.000 He might be if you don't have any options, you do. 0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:57.480 But Pete, you know this is well. If the Jaguars 0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:01.920 cut Camerabinson today, there'd be ten teams signing him trying 0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:05.080 to sign him because of the lack of offensive alignment 0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:09.880 in this lake. True and so he might say, I'm 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.200 not playing guard. Someone else will let me play tackle 0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:16.080 and pay me as a tackle. What if he could 0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.280 be a good guard and I don't know that. I mean, 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.160 you know better than you have never seen him line 0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.480 up and guard, but now you know what it takes 0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:25.160 to be a guard. Does he have the tool set 0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:29.280 to be a guard? I don't know. That's something you 0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.240 don't know until you do it in some levels, because 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.680 you need to know. Can he handle the close combat, 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:37.600 the close uh close combat, the you know the you 0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.360 know it's happens quicker, you know they're on top of you. 0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.520 It's a different it's a different position. But like some 0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:48.760 of the best guards in this league today are former tackles, 0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:53.240 So I would have to Jack Martin was a was 0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:57.840 a tackle. Marcia Yonda was a tackle. Colletio assembly. I 0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:58.960 know he's not one of the best card but he 0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:00.560 was when he was good. He was he was a 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.640 former tackle. I agree with that, But Pete, they also 0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:07.600 are does he have the lower body strength to be 0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.680 a guard? Right? Well, that you would know that better. 0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:14.560 Do you think he does. I'm I'm on the fence 0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:16.280 right now, I really am, and I'm not trying to 0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.360 avoid it. I'm just not sure. Like Ben Coleman played 0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:25.560 guard next to you, he was a tackle at one point. Yeah, 0:30:25.840 --> 0:30:28.160 but he did. He made a nice transition to guard right. 0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.480 He did very good job. Yeah, he had a big 0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:35.120 lower he was strong in the lower bard. I'll say this, 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.280 I would probably getting I'd be probably getting Will Rich 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.880 and some reps at left tackle. I know I would 0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:45.600 in the off season. He clearly played better than what 0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:47.880 Cams played at left tack when he was there. I 0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:52.400 would definitely get him some reps a left tackle. Um. 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:56.000 But you, I mean, but JP makes a great question, 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:57.440 I mean a great point. I mean, you look at 0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.320 the roster and there's you know, when you can go 0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.280 do the same thing on the defensive side. But a 0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:06.920 lot of it is who's making those decisions? Is it Tom? 0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.240 Is it Dave? Is it Doug? Or is there is 0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.080 there new pieces at all? Three? Is it new pieces 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.800 in a couple Tony? You know it's gonna be new 0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.200 pieces across the board. I don't know anything right now. 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:23.680 I really don't have a common sense, Okay, and I 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.280 can't argue with that. The way it's going, that's fair. 0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.120 But so then you sit here and you look at 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:34.040 the let's put the cell into the GM spot. Oh gosh, 0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:42.480 he would love that. Not on the ring, Jody, Okay, 0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:44.800 put you in a GM spot. Is Cam Robinson? You're 0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:46.880 starting left tackle when you open the season next year, 0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:51.120 Tony ball, GM. Are you looking for replace? I'm looking 0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.000 for someone to compete with him at that job based 0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:56.720 on what I've seen this year. Okay, is Andrew nor 0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.640 will coming back? If you could say five million dollars 0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:01.960 by them? Go? I mean who? Well? I mean right now, 0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:03.400 I have no one else in the roster. So it 0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.520 depends on whether how the draft plays out in all 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:09.000 the different other areas I have to fill. So I 0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:13.080 don't know, and Linda at his bloated salary, he comes 0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:17.560 back or you try and get him to knock it down. Uh, No, 0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:19.920 I think he's coming back. He can't change everyone out. 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.000 I mean you can't just you can't make these sold 0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:26.320 so changes like that. No, I lender is my starting center. 0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.520 Is there anybody behind other than Richardson who's on this 0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:36.720 roster that can play that developed and grow and becomes 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:40.520 something at the line. I mean Tyler Shatley is your 0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:42.360 swing guy. That's what he is. I don't. I don't 0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:45.600 see him coming in as a starting He's he's coming 0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:48.320 in short spells for a few weeks started that. He's 0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:50.600 just smart guys you want. I have not seen enough 0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:54.880 of Brandon Thomas. I don't know if he moves well enough. Um, 0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:56.840 and those are the only two other guys besides the 0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:58.920 war Richardson or in a way he and I don't 0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:05.280 think a boy. He's the tor left tackle, so fill 0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:09.960 in tight end. Yeah, he's the extra. Well, we don't 0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:12.200 have the problem is you. I mean you gotta address 0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:16.640 tight end. I mean you need probably two tight ends. 0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:21.240 You need someone to step up. You have no playmakers 0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:25.040 at the tight end. I mean Nicole Leary. And I'm 0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:27.200 not saying I mean Nicole Leary. I'm not sure why 0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.760 we didn't get me here earlier. He's literally your best 0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:34.360 tight end on the roster than you play fullback. He's 0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:36.960 a move guy, but I mean he's not I mean 0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:40.000 he's not a playmaker. He's a good soul. He's a 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:43.480 good In fairness to them about the tight end position, 0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.200 it is a bad position in the NFL right now. 0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:51.120 He just is I mean, you go across the board now, 0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:57.160 Baltimore has three of them, but most teams struggle to 0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:01.720 find one Tony. It's a bad position. But the Cowboys 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.400 they brought Jason Wittne out of the booth. Right. Yeah, 0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:09.520 but you have if you if Landard Fournette is gonna 0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:12.600 be your back, you have to have big physical tight ends. 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:17.520 I agree, I agree? And what do you want to 0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:19.200 be on offense? Do you want to be a physical 0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:23.600 team personnel? Get the personal We don't have big physical 0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.000 tight ends, but do they want to be? Just like 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.200 it was, just why Nick Boyle in Baltimore is so 0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:33.319 valuable because he can block. Let's come back, um a 0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.200 little more on this topic ahead. We'll get back to 0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:38.920 the quarterback decision as well. Are we do just skipping 0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:42.600 talk to forget it? We won't forget it? Well, you 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:44.440 can come that, do that when you come back, do 0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:47.040 whatever you want, because you just lied to everyone listening. 0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:48.680 You said we were talking defense, and we were right 0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:52.080 back to the offensive line to your we wanted to 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.520 hear from you know you're you're hear from me, no 0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.680 matter what what you think. 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It's when 0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:25.080 it's one per customer doesn't just started preparing and that 0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.160 something like. And I had halftime though you know something 0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.839 been farmed for for a long time. Coach Brown came 0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:33.279 in and told me and Nick um situation, and we 0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.920 both talked about it. Um. You know, I agree that 0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:37.719 we're gonna dere Dame again to get us back in again. 0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:39.680 And you just try to get loose, um, you know, 0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:42.880 try to take completions early, getting the flow of the game. UM. 0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:45.720 I thought we did a decent job of that. Gardner 0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:49.279 mins you the second Jaguar's quarterback, the starter this week 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:53.080 against the Los Angeles Chargers. Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour, 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:57.920 j P Shadrick Tony was Elly Pete Priscoe. Yeah, he 0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:00.279 came in at halftime. So it's his job. It's his 0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:04.680 job that way. Yes, Doug announced that today. No, no, 0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:08.640 not just for this week. It's his job unless he 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:12.680 plays well. I don't know. He didn't come out and say, hey, 0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:14.120 it's his job for the old season. He was asked 0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.480 specifically about that. He didn't really go there. But I 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:20.239 don't think you go back unless Gardner Minshew gets hurt 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.880 or throws like eight picks. I don't think you go 0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:27.719 back to nick Folds this season. In my opinion, what's 0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:29.279 the old saying. You know, it's hard to put the 0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:32.800 toothpaste back in the tube. I mean you you you 0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:36.320 bench falls, and like, I don't think you're gonna go 0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:40.040 back and forth. Doesn't work that way. Maron said today 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.960 on the conference call that the mobility was really a 0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:46.440 big reason why. So that's really it's gotta be a 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:48.359 shot of the offensive line and how they play. Why 0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:51.560 is that a shot at the offensive line? How is 0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:59.160 it not? How is it not? Well? Why because a 0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:01.400 lot of people will tell you that mobile quarterbacks you 0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:04.520 need mobility in today's NFL to play. And then if 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.920 you look at most of the teams that are having success, 0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:11.000 they have an athletic mobile quarterback. Let's just go through 0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:21.480 the teams. Seattle great right, ben offensive line, Baltimore, Baltimore, Buffalo, 0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:27.520 good offensive line in Baltimore, Yeah, Buffalo athletic quarterback, uh, 0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.840 San Francisco, Jimmy geez, he's can move though. Canny Pete, 0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:34.719 Yeah a little bit. Line is pretty good though. When 0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.920 he's when they got the two tackles healthy, I mean Dallas, 0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:44.440 Dak Prescott Athletic, athletic. I'm just saying, but there's a 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.640 lot of to just say. It's the reason that they 0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:52.279 like his mobility. Like any quarterback that has mobility, whether 0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:54.000 you have a good or bad offensive line, is gonna 0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.759 an extra pressure on the defense. Well, how about just 0:40:56.840 --> 0:41:00.480 saying he's played better? The guy played awful for time. Well, 0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:04.520 that's anybody I wouldn't have said it's the mobility thing. 0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:08.200 I'd take we're playing Gardener because he's playing better. We 0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:09.680 feel like he gives us the best yet to win. 0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:15.040 That's it. Here's for you, Selly. Will Nick Foles ever 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:21.840 be the starting quarterback in Jacksonville? I don't know. You know, no, 0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:25.719 what if Gardner gets hurt? No? No, aside from injury. 0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:30.000 Will he win the job back? Um this year or 0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:32.239 not this year? No? So we can hear more talk 0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:36.279 about culture building. They built a culture, all right? Why 0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.759 I mean, why are you taking shots at him now 0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.520 about the culture thing? Because I didn't like it last 0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:46.160 week and I still don't like it. It's just, I mean, 0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:47.600 the guy's down. I mean, do we have to kick 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.560 him when he's Downpete? I mean, he just got fifty 0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:54.759 million dollars. Make me get down like that? Well's to see. 0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:57.200 But that's the difference between you and other people. It's 0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.400 not all about the money. I mean, your pride is 0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:01.360 a professor. You want to be good at your craft, 0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:02.680 you want to do a good job. It's not just 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.320 about the money. Beat. I mean, I'm sure, I'm not. 0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:09.040 I guarantee you. Nick Foles isn't sitting there saying, screw it, 0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:13.520 I got fifty million dollars. I don't care. That's like 0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:16.279 no player says that. It does soften the blow a 0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:19.600 little now, it doesn't. Trust me, it does not do. 0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:23.399 It's professional football. It is about the money. No, it's 0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:25.840 I mean, at the end of the day, I disagree 0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:30.360 that would he rather be making fifteen million dollars less 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:35.920 and playing somewhere That that's a dumb question. It's not 0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:43.640 either he making making wrong. I'm saying right now today 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:48.560 the money isn't making him feel any better. I'm not 0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.279 saying over the big I'm not saying, you know, I'm 0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:53.120 not saying that you step away from it and you 0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:56.040 go down the road, you know, a year or you know, 0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:59.399 after his career is over. Obviously it softens the blow. 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:03.960 But right now, trust me, he's a competitor. You think 0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.640 he woke up the morning says, who cares, I got 0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:10.080 fifty million dollars. No, that's a Pete Prisco thing. That's 0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:15.400 a that's stupid. He's go get about a million dollars 0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.880 worth of ones and fill your room with it, and 0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.840 go dive into it for a while and feel a 0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:25.280 lot better. Well, like Listen, I agree. Over time, obviously 0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:26.879 the softens the blow and you look back and say, 0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:28.680 at least I got the money. I agree with that. 0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:32.520 I'm not gonna be I mean stupid. I'm saying today 0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:36.440 and in the near future, it hurts because you have pride. 0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:40.440 You were brought here to do a job. I'll give 0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.800 you a perfect example. I got went to the Texans, 0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:46.319 got paid back then good money, and I could not 0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:50.000 play because of injury. I was bummed because I know, 0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:52.960 hold on, no but here, but you should say, well, 0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:56.120 you got the money. You should soften the blow and 0:43:56.280 --> 0:44:00.520 soften any blows miserable because you want to compete. That's 0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:02.879 why you're there. That's what made you get to the level. 0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.319 I know, I know you. You wouldn't have taken half 0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:09.040 that money to be able to compete. Yes, if if, 0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:12.759 if someone has said, listen, you're gonna make half as 0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:14.719 much money this year, but you're gonna be able to 0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:21.239 compete and continue to play. Done? Done? You kidding me? 0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:23.319 Maybe the old the oldest sell he might have done 0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:25.399 that new but Selly, no way, No, I'm just done. 0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:32.520 Over the long haul, right though, Tony softens the blow. No, 0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:36.160 not today, doesn't not today. Yeah, I'm with you on that, 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:42.120 but I'm not hit. I'm not a guy when he's down, Tony. 0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.839 But when you signed that contract to become the guy 0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:48.360 and you get benched, that's the reality of it. The 0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:50.720 guy is gonna take heat, and he should take the heat. 0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.040 I'm fine you take the heat about how he's played, 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.120 I'll take I'll bring the heat. He didn't play well. 0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:57.400 But like for you to bring up this culture nonsense, 0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:59.400 And I read all these Twitter people taking shots at 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.120 the culture. What does that have to do with Nobody 0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:06.040 wants to hear that after care. It doesn't matter, is 0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:10.600 my point. That does not matter. Wins and losses. Performing, 0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:15.560 that's all that matters. So let's focus on that for 0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:17.319 the culture comment. But we're gonna give Aim an F 0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:23.400 minus for the way you play again, Sure, if that's 0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:26.960 how you want to do it, fine for him. We'll 0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:31.879 give him an A plus for happy he got a gun. Well. 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:35.279 For the record, Doug Brown was asked if minshe will 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:37.120 start for the remainder of the season in the conference 0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:40.680 call today. He said, quote, we're planning on him playing, yeah, 0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:44.600 end quote. That was the yeast. So he's the starter guy. 0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:47.839 I misspoke earlier. Yes, let's come back in a moment. 0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:51.680 We got a specially half studio. Yes, special guest Marcus 0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:56.600 Pollard will join us here, he'll join us. There's an 0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:59.799 event coming up, a flag football camp. Is he gonna 0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:02.800 play night in for us? We'll find out in mere moments. 0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:06.080 It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on 0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:15.960 the Jaguars Digital Networks. 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Wait? Wait no, wait, wait? 0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:48.480 Can I say it on the show? My son just say, 0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:55.360 just holding it down? Something? Is pizza with us? Or 0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:58.040 did he take a break? Yeah, I'm here? Okay, So Pete, 0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:00.440 Just so you don't think it's me who says that 0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:03.160 there's no soft landing because of the money today. For 0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:06.279 Nick Foles, we were talking in uh, who are you? 0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:08.160 Who are you talking to me? And you were talking 0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:13.440 there as a player, Marcus. Does the money mean anything 0:50:13.480 --> 0:50:16.920 today for Nick Foles? That does not? Uh? For a 0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:19.240 guy that loves to compete as well as I've gotten 0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:21.680 to know Nick, Nick will probably give you fifty million 0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.640 dollars back to have success and to play in a 0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:27.200 winning culture. I don't know if people keep talking about 0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:30.200 this culture, but for Nick it means everything to him, 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:32.680 and so he give it back in our Heartbeatpete, I 0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:36.319 hear you. But as Tony said, the two of us 0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:38.640 spent time in that locker room and it's got paid 0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:41.680 an NFL contract, and I promise you, buddy will give 0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.480 that money back to be successful on that field, no 0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:49.200 question if they're willing to give it to him, But 0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.560 him giving it back don't make him have better success 0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:54.399 on Sun or the past three games either. So giving 0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:56.919 it back as a new point. My point is that 0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.000 if he could give it back, and you could look 0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:01.480 into a crystal ball, wave a magic one and give 0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:03.840 the money back and him have success and have his 0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:06.080 teammates have success, he'd do it. I know him. That 0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:09.480 will now long term, Pete. Yeah, one day you look 0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:11.680 back and say, well I got fifty billion bucks, my 0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:15.320 family set for generations and you move on with life. 0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:18.560 But in the midst, when you're a competitor, man, all 0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:21.920 you want to do is play and win. That's all 0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:26.440 you want to do. Well, I mean, look, I get it, 0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:28.000 you're a competitor. You want to play. Of course you 0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:30.880 want to play. But like two J P said, it 0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:39.960 softens the blow. Okay, this season, it will not soften 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:44.200 the blow. This year, it will not soften it. Marcus. 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:46.839 So you're here to promote an event coming up. Thank 0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:49.800 you for coming in. Absolutely coming up, the Gatorade Junior 0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:54.440 Training Camp Girls Flag football coming up on the right, 0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:57.160 Yes on the seventhe This is a Tuesday, and and 0:51:57.280 --> 0:51:59.160 kids should be out of school. So we're looking forward 0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.600 to the first time event like this. Be myself from 0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:04.040 you football people will have some high school coaches there 0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:05.440 as well as some of our players are coming out 0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:08.160 to help these girls work on their skill set because 0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:13.240 I understand that this girls flag it's probably the fastest 0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:15.880 growing sports in high school. And so these girls are 0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:19.480 doing these games that they have during the spring, and 0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:22.800 we thought, what a great opportunity to teach them about 0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:27.040 playing high school girls And we would like for those 0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:29.759 girls to be They don't have to be, but we 0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:32.200 would like for them to to be on a team 0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:35.560 that has a girls team or trying out or trying 0:52:35.560 --> 0:52:38.760 out for the teams. This is the skills development training 0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.080 what we're doing for these girls, and what a great 0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:46.720 opportunity knowledge. So skills can't led by you. Some players 0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:50.439 coming out and some special guest coaches as well. Open 0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:52.800 to the first one right, yes, first one hundred and 0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:54.840 the deadline will give you all the way up to 0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:58.880 December six. So there are only a hunter spots. So 0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:02.720 if you want to come, go now to Yeah, Jaguars 0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:06.759 dot com slash Prep. There you go, that'll show you all. 0:53:07.080 --> 0:53:10.520 That'll show you all the events that are available, and 0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:13.319 then you click on the Girl's Flag event. It'll take 0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:15.480 you to that event. You can register there and and 0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:18.600 go on. So so cool. I have just one recommendation. 0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:20.960 As you're going out and promoting this, no the you 0:53:21.120 --> 0:53:25.040 r L people ask you to get there. I thought 0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:31.960 we made it work together. We know the law every Sunday. 0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:34.719 But when he when he's not here, I would have 0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:36.680 knew it. You know, I had already send the information, 0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:41.120 already had already. That's cool though, I think it's great. 0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:50.960 Let's have three daughters, Tony, I've not been invited. Ok Um, yes, skills, 0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:55.560 big skill though I played quarterback and yeah yeah, played 0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:58.520 tight end and had great feat though oh yeah, believe me. 0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:02.080 I know a few times not only feel at the 0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:06.040 same time. But yeah, I think it's great, very cool 0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:08.399 doing it for the for the ladies. I have three 0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:11.640 girls who love competing, none of them playing flag football. 0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:14.359 I'mnna ask them why not. It's a good question them 0:54:14.360 --> 0:54:16.960 come out well, but they don't. They're not a team, 0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:19.719 so they wouldn't call al right, you don't have to 0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:21.040 be on a team. We would like for them to 0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:22.520 be on a team so they can take the training 0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:25.560 and do something the season. Right, But we want girls 0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:28.799 to get involved in football absolutely else. I think it's 0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:32.279 an so all the other things that we take from 0:54:32.680 --> 0:54:34.440 learning football, we could think the girls can do the 0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:36.560 same thing as camp. Oh absolutely. The cool thing for 0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:39.480 it is is like my girls are huge football fans, 0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:41.799 Like they go to every game, they watch it, they 0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:44.200 go watch their brothers play. I mean, they love it. 0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:48.440 They love watching football, and so I imagine for them, 0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:50.040 even though they're not a team, but to go learn 0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:53.160 more about the games. So because I always think when 0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:55.799 you know something or a sport, whatever it is, but 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:57.920 the more you know about the more enjoyable it is 0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:00.360 to watch because you kind of have in side. So 0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:02.560 it's a what a cool event Like hockey. I can't 0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:04.480 I can't do hockey because I don't understand it. But 0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:07.000 like you said, if you understand the sport, more likely 0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:09.960 to watching and participating. Absolutely very cool. Coming up a 0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:14.160 dream Finders Homes flex field at Daily's Place, Tuesday, December seventeen, 0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:18.600 five to eight pm. Register at Jaguars dot com slash Prep. 0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:22.200 Take notes on that mark and that you can go 0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:24.120 on there and see all the list of the events 0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:27.680 clicking on the Jaguars, the Gatorad Junior Training Camp event, 0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:30.960 Girls Flag Football and you can register right there. Marcus, 0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:34.960 good stuff, Thank you very much for inside. I love it. 0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:37.640 Pete Brisco will be back in just a moment. Tony 0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:39.799 you're I guess you'll be back. I'll be back. Best 0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:42.920 segment we've had because Pete didn't say much. I was 0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:45.319 on it though. You just blocked me out. Yeah, that's 0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:47.439 why it was so good. He was an offensive Laman 0:55:47.480 --> 0:55:50.520 blocked you up. 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The second one, you know, 1:00:01.600 --> 1:00:04.320 the right tackle gets beaten the scripts back, you know. 1:00:04.360 --> 1:00:06.320 In the third one, you know, he should, you know, 1:00:06.360 --> 1:00:08.000 my opinion, should have been able to hold on too, 1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:11.560 because he saw me coming from the background. Welcome Back, 1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:14.200 Jaguars Happy Hour, second hour of the program. That's ed 1:00:14.240 --> 1:00:18.200 Coach Dug Maroon Yesterday, j P Shadrick, Tonyvaselli, Pete Frisco, 1:00:18.320 --> 1:00:20.560 your social media questions coming up. We'll go around the 1:00:20.640 --> 1:00:26.880 ANFC South and around the NFL in week thirteen. Nice 1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:29.800 to see, by the way, nice to see BASSELLI get 1:00:29.840 --> 1:00:33.760 another former player to go after me and JP. You 1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:36.080 sit on the sideline after saying that you don't even 1:00:36.080 --> 1:00:37.880 defend me. What do you mean. I was right here 1:00:37.880 --> 1:00:40.000 the whole time. Yeah, he sat on the sideline, pat 1:00:40.280 --> 1:00:43.080 was right here. What do you want me to say, Pete? 1:00:42.280 --> 1:00:45.480 You used my line the whole segment? Were you talking 1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:47.840 about You didn't? You didn't, You didn't say anymore. You 1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:50.040 just just sat there and let me take it. It 1:00:50.080 --> 1:00:52.320 is unbelievable, Pete. You should know this by now. You 1:00:53.040 --> 1:00:56.120 should know this. Use my line the whole segment. You 1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:59.400 should know this by now. About JP, he will run 1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:05.120 for at the first sign of trouble. He's not gonna 1:01:05.160 --> 1:01:07.840 get the fox hold to anybody. He is all about 1:01:07.960 --> 1:01:12.520 protection and you know Switzerland, Switzerland, trying to keep himself 1:01:12.640 --> 1:01:15.760 out of any harm's way. He's not He's not. He's 1:01:15.800 --> 1:01:17.240 not a guy who's gonna go to war with you. 1:01:17.400 --> 1:01:19.720 He's not a warrior. But by the way, Tony, we 1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:22.440 were talking about Folds and what the options could be 1:01:22.520 --> 1:01:27.560 for Folds. Yeah, you could, you could trade him, but 1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:33.280 who's gonna take on that contract? Nobody? You could beg 1:01:33.400 --> 1:01:35.880 somebody to do an Oswiler like deal where you give 1:01:35.920 --> 1:01:38.280 him a draft pick to take him, and how when 1:01:38.320 --> 1:01:41.560 you trade does his entire cap money go with him, 1:01:41.600 --> 1:01:44.720 but you take you keep some of the cap right. 1:01:45.640 --> 1:01:49.040 And then here's the other problem in the scenario. This year, 1:01:49.120 --> 1:01:53.320 from what I understand, you can't with the last year 1:01:53.400 --> 1:01:55.520 the CBN unless they get a new cb A done. 1:01:55.720 --> 1:02:00.680 You can't designate post June trade or cut, which means 1:02:00.720 --> 1:02:04.360 you can't split the money. So if you traded him, 1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:06.240 you're still taking a huge cap it off. I would 1:02:06.280 --> 1:02:07.960 not be surprised if they don't get to see the 1:02:08.000 --> 1:02:10.600 cb A something done here pretty quick. Oh, I agree. 1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:13.000 I think it's gonna get done. Seventh, they're gonna have 1:02:13.000 --> 1:02:15.520 seventeen games. They're gonna get it done. They'll they'll figure 1:02:15.520 --> 1:02:17.520 that out, and the season is gonna go into February 1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:21.160 and two buys. Yeah, I think that gets done. It's 1:02:21.160 --> 1:02:24.160 getting done. But but Tony is still gonna be tough 1:02:24.240 --> 1:02:27.320 to deal him. And or you know, can you keep 1:02:27.320 --> 1:02:30.080 a guy This is a legitimate question. Can you keep 1:02:30.120 --> 1:02:33.520 a guy who's making twenty two million dollars on your 1:02:33.600 --> 1:02:38.120 roster as a backup quarterback? Yes? Or not? Yes, you can, 1:02:38.920 --> 1:02:42.520 I mean you have no choice. Pet so yes, you've 1:02:42.560 --> 1:02:46.360 already paid the money. It's gone, it's done. It's guaranteed 1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:51.560 it's on the books. So yeah, I mean what else 1:02:51.560 --> 1:02:55.360 you gonna do? And why not? And if you're gonna 1:02:55.360 --> 1:02:59.200 go with Minshew, he's your starter. If that's how it 1:02:59.240 --> 1:03:00.640 plays out, and he wins is the job. And we 1:03:00.680 --> 1:03:03.760 still have an offseason, You have training camp in a preseason, 1:03:03.960 --> 1:03:07.440 so much stuff, and then you asked Nick Foles to 1:03:07.440 --> 1:03:09.120 be Nick Foles and what he's always done if you 1:03:09.160 --> 1:03:11.440 need him, come off the bench and play great again, 1:03:11.480 --> 1:03:14.400 back to what we had this conversation about the offensive 1:03:14.440 --> 1:03:17.800 line earlier. It also depends on who's making this decision. 1:03:18.640 --> 1:03:26.160 You don't know who that's gonna be. I don't think 1:03:26.160 --> 1:03:29.080 it matters they inherit the money issues also, like just 1:03:29.120 --> 1:03:32.040 because of new GM or new whoever comes in, that 1:03:32.120 --> 1:03:35.200 doesn't mean like, oh yeah, what you do over on 1:03:35.280 --> 1:03:38.960 this one. I mean it's on the books. In business, 1:03:38.960 --> 1:03:42.080 you'd call this a sunk cost, like it's an asset 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:44.040 that you own that you've already paid for and you're 1:03:44.080 --> 1:03:46.880 not getting anything. It is what it is, So you 1:03:46.920 --> 1:03:52.640 stop looking behind and focusing on the mistake or what 1:03:52.760 --> 1:03:56.240 has happened. You say, we're moving forward. Now it's on 1:03:56.280 --> 1:03:59.520 our books. Let's make the best of it. That's all 1:03:59.560 --> 1:04:03.640 you can do. M So as of everything that's played 1:04:03.640 --> 1:04:07.480 out right now, it's a bad signing. There's no other 1:04:07.520 --> 1:04:10.240 way to describe it. It's hard for me to think 1:04:10.280 --> 1:04:16.840 of any other way too put position the situation. I 1:04:16.840 --> 1:04:22.120 think that's right, all right. It's a bad hit to 1:04:22.160 --> 1:04:27.960 an organization, really is. How about um a little positivity 1:04:28.280 --> 1:04:32.680 in this when Gardner, when Gardner came into the game yesterday, 1:04:33.280 --> 1:04:36.080 there was a little life. They moved the ball. You 1:04:36.120 --> 1:04:38.080 had to let a couple of scoring drives. They were 1:04:38.120 --> 1:04:40.640 down inside the to another time and through an interception. 1:04:40.760 --> 1:04:45.400 The red zone issues, right, that's been a theme this year. 1:04:45.600 --> 1:04:48.080 Is that a real thing because of Minshew or is 1:04:48.120 --> 1:04:51.480 this a change of you know what is run it 1:04:51.560 --> 1:04:58.240 once when they were down there? Uh? Yes, I believe so. 1:04:59.360 --> 1:05:01.160 Is it just the Earth Agency thing at that point 1:05:01.200 --> 1:05:06.080 in the game. I mean, listen, I think his ability 1:05:06.160 --> 1:05:08.880 to extend plays and the off schedule play gives you 1:05:08.960 --> 1:05:13.760 something extra, It really does. Indeed, he drop a touchdown 1:05:13.760 --> 1:05:21.360 pass though that was it was a tough catch and 1:05:21.400 --> 1:05:23.880 I watched the film it almost looks like he could 1:05:23.920 --> 1:05:27.400 have run through better and mint she was leading him 1:05:27.480 --> 1:05:30.640 because where MITSI wants to put that ball on that 1:05:30.640 --> 1:05:32.960 that clear out route. You have to put it in 1:05:33.000 --> 1:05:35.920 the body up into the body of the receiver because 1:05:35.920 --> 1:05:38.560 it's gonna be a tough throw in traffic. If you 1:05:38.560 --> 1:05:40.720 put it away from him, too many bad things can happen. 1:05:41.200 --> 1:05:44.040 He led him a little bit, so d D had 1:05:44.080 --> 1:05:45.760 to reach out. He got two hands on it, but 1:05:45.800 --> 1:05:48.120 then it deflected up. But it almost looked like on 1:05:48.160 --> 1:05:51.320 the film that there was a hesitation by d D 1:05:51.400 --> 1:05:54.600 and he didn't run through it, and so it's just 1:05:54.640 --> 1:05:59.920 a bad play all around. H interesting. You know what 1:06:00.000 --> 1:06:02.800 we promised defensive talk earlier, we didn't quite get to that. 1:06:03.760 --> 1:06:07.120 Let's touch on it now. Jaguars defense in this game 1:06:07.920 --> 1:06:11.560 really in the second half turned things on. They slow 1:06:11.640 --> 1:06:14.160 down this Tampa Bay offense in that second half. Donald 1:06:14.200 --> 1:06:17.520 Payne had to step in his He had played ten 1:06:17.720 --> 1:06:20.720 snaps on defense in his career, and I think he 1:06:20.760 --> 1:06:23.880 had what he had thirteen tackles yesterday starting at middle linebacker. 1:06:24.000 --> 1:06:27.360 Andrew Wingered had seven tackles in a sack in place 1:06:27.360 --> 1:06:30.680 of Ronnie Harrison yesterday. You're getting deep down the depth 1:06:30.760 --> 1:06:33.080 chart here. Of course, guys, that Donald Paine was on 1:06:33.080 --> 1:06:36.360 the street this year and he started at middle linebacker. 1:06:36.400 --> 1:06:39.520 Now because it come tells you how how deep they 1:06:39.560 --> 1:06:41.160 have to go down the list right now, on defense, 1:06:41.200 --> 1:06:44.000 it's not the ideal situation, but there were some high 1:06:44.040 --> 1:06:47.680 points on defense yesterday. We'll go through this. Look at 1:06:47.720 --> 1:06:53.400 the starting eleven yesterday. On defense, you having Gockway third 1:06:53.480 --> 1:06:59.080 round pick, Abray Jones, undrafted, undrafted, David Brant, first round 1:06:59.120 --> 1:07:02.120 plays Campbell was the first rounder, undrafted, second round, the 1:07:02.160 --> 1:07:07.600 second rounder. But you know Quincy Williams, rookie, third rounder, 1:07:09.040 --> 1:07:14.280 uh Donald Payne, undrafted free agent, William Jacobs, the seventh rounder, 1:07:14.320 --> 1:07:17.280 Trey Herndon, undrafted free agent, Jared Wilson, undrafted free agent, 1:07:18.040 --> 1:07:23.120 um Andrew Wingard, uh undrafted free agent, A J. Boyer 1:07:23.360 --> 1:07:26.480 undrafted free agent, but a free agent. To us, that 1:07:26.720 --> 1:07:31.800 is remarkable. You think about that usually the amount of undrafted. 1:07:31.960 --> 1:07:35.000 I mean, I mean, like I was looking at the 1:07:35.080 --> 1:07:37.480 right at the starting lineup. He said, I'm like, wow, 1:07:38.680 --> 1:07:41.520 the only first round pick on the entire side of 1:07:41.560 --> 1:07:45.439 the ball is David Bryant and d J. Hayden. When 1:07:45.440 --> 1:07:50.800 he comes to the nickel correct and Josh Allen. Josh Allen, 1:07:51.120 --> 1:07:55.400 you know, is a rotational player. But the back half 1:07:56.960 --> 1:08:02.280 is all undrafted. With the starting four, well, two of 1:08:02.440 --> 1:08:05.040 the first round pick defenders are playing for the Rams 1:08:05.120 --> 1:08:09.240 right now. We just I mean in in for that group, 1:08:11.240 --> 1:08:14.400 I give, I give a great job play their tail off. 1:08:15.160 --> 1:08:17.760 I thought Todd washers defense staff did a great job, 1:08:17.760 --> 1:08:21.080 put them good positions, and I thought that unit. You know, 1:08:21.320 --> 1:08:23.920 if you look at it the earlier, the grades, and 1:08:23.920 --> 1:08:25.920 tell me you agree with these guys grades if they 1:08:25.960 --> 1:08:27.960 played as well. One second before you do that, the 1:08:28.040 --> 1:08:31.960 Buccaneers were averaging yeah and a half points a game. 1:08:32.439 --> 1:08:37.360 They were third third and scoring fourth in passing, and 1:08:37.400 --> 1:08:39.599 if you look at what they did, they did a 1:08:39.640 --> 1:08:45.280 great job. They gave up uh eighteen points and really 1:08:45.280 --> 1:08:48.040 slowed down Jamis Winston through the air. I thought, I 1:08:48.080 --> 1:08:51.760 thought they played good. All right, let's go through. Tell 1:08:51.760 --> 1:08:53.240 me if you thought this guy played good or not, 1:08:53.280 --> 1:08:58.360 I'll tell you how they graded him. Abrey Jones, mhm, 1:08:59.000 --> 1:09:03.559 uh didn't stand out solid, not great, Nope, big great. 1:09:04.400 --> 1:09:07.439 Tavin Bryant. Tavin Bryant probably had his best game of 1:09:07.439 --> 1:09:09.759 the year. I thought, exactly. They gave him good grades 1:09:09.800 --> 1:09:15.400 on their Clays Campbell. He made some really good tackles 1:09:15.400 --> 1:09:19.200 for a loss. You know Claisses, but Clays right now, Man, 1:09:19.280 --> 1:09:22.479 the last number of weeks, he's been on the ground 1:09:22.479 --> 1:09:27.080 a lot and uh, something we hadn't seen from him 1:09:27.080 --> 1:09:32.719 in the past. Why is that the only thing? Snaps? 1:09:32.760 --> 1:09:34.479 A lot of snaps this year, and he's way too 1:09:34.479 --> 1:09:36.519 many snaps were a player at his age as well. 1:09:36.520 --> 1:09:38.960 I don't think they want to play six snaps yesterday. 1:09:39.080 --> 1:09:46.080 It's too much Monique and way. I would say he 1:09:46.160 --> 1:09:51.280 didn't really flash, didn't do a lot, average, bad, great, Yeah, 1:09:52.000 --> 1:09:55.280 Quincy Williams, he probably had his best game as well. 1:09:55.680 --> 1:10:01.280 Ye good, you're good today. Tony oh Pain outside of 1:10:01.280 --> 1:10:07.439 two plays, played good football. They gave bad grade past coverage, okay, 1:10:07.640 --> 1:10:10.679 but he he had like thirteen tackles. He had two 1:10:10.680 --> 1:10:15.200 bad plays. On the touchdown he was in the wrong gap. Um, 1:10:15.240 --> 1:10:17.000 so I would probably disagree with him on that one. 1:10:17.400 --> 1:10:24.639 Trey Herndon, Um nice. Just they gave a good grade 1:10:24.640 --> 1:10:26.439 and run defense and a bad grade in the pass game. 1:10:26.520 --> 1:10:32.240 I'm awful grade. But okay, I just say, okay, Jared Wilson, Okay, 1:10:32.920 --> 1:10:37.519 that's your your spot on wind guard. Uh. For what 1:10:37.560 --> 1:10:40.479 he was asked to do first time starting, I'd give 1:10:40.560 --> 1:10:44.120 him like he played well. Okay, yeah, okay, they gave it. Okay, 1:10:44.120 --> 1:10:47.559 great a j boy A got pained for for his 1:10:47.600 --> 1:10:52.880 past coverage. Yeah, he did not play fast yesterday, so 1:10:52.920 --> 1:10:56.559 I would just say, okay, Josh Allen gave a good 1:10:56.560 --> 1:10:58.839 grade and run defense bad grade. As a pass rushier 1:10:59.680 --> 1:11:01.479 did not get much pressure. It had a sack, but 1:11:01.520 --> 1:11:04.559 it was a clean up sack. He's very good against 1:11:04.640 --> 1:11:08.479 Runni's physical, tough, and everybody else was just everybody else. 1:11:09.280 --> 1:11:13.400 So Davis, by the way, played Tony one snaps yesterday. 1:11:14.200 --> 1:11:17.559 Question will be when will Miles Jack get back. I 1:11:17.600 --> 1:11:21.000 would not be surprised if we do not see Myles 1:11:21.080 --> 1:11:25.639 Jack the rest of the year. Really that he's bad. 1:11:27.280 --> 1:11:30.080 I don't know how bad it is, but if it's 1:11:30.080 --> 1:11:36.200 even if he's not gonna be back at least by 1:11:36.240 --> 1:11:38.960 after the Chargers game, I'd put him in I R Well, 1:11:38.960 --> 1:11:40.360 if you don't see Myles Jack for the rest of 1:11:40.360 --> 1:11:41.880 the year, that means you haven't seen him all year. 1:11:44.600 --> 1:11:46.760 Let's be real. He's gonna be one of the major 1:11:46.840 --> 1:11:48.479 I look, I love the kid. He's got to be 1:11:48.520 --> 1:11:51.679 considered one of the major disappointments of the season. It'll 1:11:51.720 --> 1:11:56.280 be interesting what they do. Um, because I remember, like 1:11:56.320 --> 1:11:58.280 the start of the year on this show, we were 1:11:58.280 --> 1:12:01.439 talking about him being a possibility of being one of 1:12:01.479 --> 1:12:03.479 the great players on defense in the league this year. 1:12:03.560 --> 1:12:06.439 We were hoping because we didn't see it the year before, 1:12:08.400 --> 1:12:10.960 and UM, we thought that this was an important year 1:12:10.960 --> 1:12:13.679 from to take the staff be signed the deal. UM. 1:12:13.720 --> 1:12:17.360 To me, I really like Miles a lot. He looks 1:12:18.040 --> 1:12:20.479 he looks a little heavy. To me, he does look 1:12:20.520 --> 1:12:23.320 really heavy. He does not look very instinctual at the 1:12:23.360 --> 1:12:27.120 middle linebacker position. And maybe, I mean, he's never played will, 1:12:27.960 --> 1:12:30.200 but maybe you need to find a middle linebacker, move 1:12:30.280 --> 1:12:34.000 him to will and let you know, we're you know, 1:12:34.040 --> 1:12:36.920 it's not quite as cluttered in the middle, and let 1:12:37.000 --> 1:12:40.120 him kind of use that athletic ability a little bit more. Somebody. 1:12:40.160 --> 1:12:41.800 But you know, they when they're gonna do staff in here, 1:12:41.840 --> 1:12:44.040 they might have a team and look at in Gockway 1:12:44.080 --> 1:12:46.280 and Josh Allen and say, you know what, we're gonna 1:12:46.280 --> 1:12:49.080 have them standing up and we're gonna go to a 1:12:49.080 --> 1:12:52.320 different system. And the problem with that is where does 1:12:52.360 --> 1:12:54.400 Miles fit that kind of system? Right? You're talking about 1:12:54.439 --> 1:12:57.280 three four, but Tampa Bay plays at three four with 1:12:57.560 --> 1:13:01.840 technically with David and he's not a big well they 1:13:01.880 --> 1:13:05.080 really they really play a hybrid. Yeah, that's what everybody's 1:13:05.080 --> 1:13:07.519 playing now anyways, right, they really play a hybrid. Well, 1:13:07.680 --> 1:13:11.040 Steelers pretty they still play a base three four. There's 1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:13.840 a handful of teams that do. But your Miles is here. 1:13:15.080 --> 1:13:17.759 He's just signed that contract extension. Miles not go anywhere. 1:13:18.920 --> 1:13:21.000 You can't go anywhere. No, he can't. He's on the roster. 1:13:22.320 --> 1:13:26.639 But I wouldn't be surprised. You know, the knee injury, 1:13:26.880 --> 1:13:29.040 and if I'm not mistaken, it's the same knee had 1:13:29.080 --> 1:13:35.960 issues coming out of college, the right knee, and um, 1:13:36.080 --> 1:13:39.000 now I don't know anything. So maybe it's not as 1:13:39.040 --> 1:13:42.240 bad as we know that. I mean, well, thank you. Um, 1:13:42.320 --> 1:13:44.040 maybe it's not that bad. And if you can play 1:13:44.080 --> 1:13:46.040 this week, great, then obviously you don't put him my R. 1:13:46.080 --> 1:13:47.760 But if he's gonna miss a couple of weeks this 1:13:47.880 --> 1:13:50.320 late in the season, I think you just you put 1:13:50.360 --> 1:13:52.080 him on the IR for the year. Tony. Here's a 1:13:52.120 --> 1:13:54.040 question for you on the defensive side of the ball. 1:13:54.320 --> 1:13:59.000 How many guys who are starting right now or projected 1:13:59.040 --> 1:14:01.439 starters will count? Jack will be starting on opening day 1:14:01.479 --> 1:14:05.600 next year. Well, I mean, if you look at it, 1:14:06.680 --> 1:14:11.439 Labie Glassbie here, well, that's gonna be a money issue. 1:14:11.680 --> 1:14:14.400 And how much money does Class want to make for 1:14:14.479 --> 1:14:17.120 the right price. I would like I would want Class back, 1:14:17.680 --> 1:14:20.280 But he has to be a rotational player. He has 1:14:20.320 --> 1:14:23.559 to be a guy who's playing twenty t snaps. But 1:14:23.600 --> 1:14:25.360 if you're hamming that your option, don't you want to 1:14:25.360 --> 1:14:27.639 go play on a team that has a chance to win? Sure? 1:14:27.800 --> 1:14:29.880 And that's what I'm saying. You have to have that 1:14:29.920 --> 1:14:33.640 conversation with him, and I think you he's earned the 1:14:33.720 --> 1:14:35.840 right with what he has done here and the type 1:14:35.880 --> 1:14:38.479 of guys you sit him down, say Class, this is 1:14:38.520 --> 1:14:41.000 where we see you, and this is how much we 1:14:41.040 --> 1:14:44.000 can pay you for that role. Now, if you want 1:14:44.000 --> 1:14:45.720 to go somewhere else, we understand it. We want you 1:14:45.800 --> 1:14:48.160 here on that role. You just have a man to 1:14:48.200 --> 1:14:50.479 man conversation with him. He's a stand up guy. He's 1:14:50.479 --> 1:14:54.679 been a great player, great individual, and but he can't 1:14:54.720 --> 1:15:00.479 be playing sixties naps for you too much. H Um. Yeah, 1:15:00.720 --> 1:15:02.719 you're running out of guys here though, I mean, Josh 1:15:02.720 --> 1:15:04.720 Allen's gonna be a starter. You have a decision to 1:15:04.720 --> 1:15:08.920 make with h in Gockway. I mean, you offered him 1:15:09.000 --> 1:15:12.360 nineteen million in the off season, didn't want it. Uh, 1:15:12.360 --> 1:15:15.599 so he obviously wants three. I don't think based on 1:15:15.680 --> 1:15:17.720 the production this year, you can pay him that. This 1:15:17.800 --> 1:15:21.160 depends again on who's making the call and do you 1:15:21.200 --> 1:15:24.759 tag him, depending on what what what are you playing? 1:15:24.760 --> 1:15:26.880 What kind of defense are you gonna play? Right, we 1:15:26.880 --> 1:15:31.960 don't know, So you can't okay million dollar bass salary 1:15:32.000 --> 1:15:34.519 next year. There's no way you know you're not gonna pay. 1:15:34.560 --> 1:15:38.000 You cannot pay that. M I mean, David Bryant's gonna 1:15:38.000 --> 1:15:40.120 be on this team. He's gonna be either you're starting 1:15:40.120 --> 1:15:43.200 three technique or rotational player at that position. There's there's 1:15:43.280 --> 1:15:47.680 one for sure. Miles Jack is gonna be back. I mean, 1:15:47.720 --> 1:15:49.760 Quincy Williams is gonna be back. But you don't know 1:15:49.800 --> 1:15:51.720 where Miles Jack is gonna play, so you don't know 1:15:51.800 --> 1:15:53.920 what he's gonna be doing. So there's one for sure, 1:15:54.080 --> 1:16:00.280 is David Bryant. Um. Yeah, d J hay Now wants 1:16:00.680 --> 1:16:02.680 Josh Allen will be starting. So that's what I said. 1:16:02.680 --> 1:16:04.760 I already said him, d J hayd Now I want 1:16:04.840 --> 1:16:06.320 him as my starting nickel. I think he's a really 1:16:06.360 --> 1:16:09.160 good player. That means there's a lot of a lot 1:16:09.200 --> 1:16:12.720 of holes. What about a J. What do you do 1:16:12.760 --> 1:16:15.320 with him? How much you know him next year? I'll 1:16:15.320 --> 1:16:17.240 taking a second, But I mean, that's a that's a 1:16:17.280 --> 1:16:21.519 lot of money for it is for a guy who's 1:16:21.520 --> 1:16:24.519 been just okay, right, I don't even know what his 1:16:24.600 --> 1:16:26.760 number is, so it's hard to say. You're about to 1:16:26.760 --> 1:16:29.360 tell me, and I'll tell you in a second, but 1:16:29.840 --> 1:16:34.280 Morshel Darius isn't coming back. Uh, that's a twenty three 1:16:34.360 --> 1:16:38.400 up I think two million in cap space. That's an 1:16:38.400 --> 1:16:42.439 easy to say it. So hold on looking up for 1:16:42.560 --> 1:16:44.360 his conject When I get it, I'll tell you go ahead. 1:16:45.439 --> 1:16:47.280 That's a that's a lot of holes on defense. Well, 1:16:47.360 --> 1:16:49.080 that's so, that's that's why it goes back to the 1:16:49.160 --> 1:16:51.360 argument of offense, and everyone's like, we'll get rid of 1:16:51.360 --> 1:16:52.680 this guy and get rid of this guy. Like, wait 1:16:52.720 --> 1:16:55.519 a second, you're not gonna get away. You're not gonna 1:16:55.560 --> 1:16:57.640 get rid of solid starters. So this is gonna be 1:16:57.640 --> 1:17:02.000 a process, is what you're saying. It's a process. Okay. 1:17:02.040 --> 1:17:06.080 A J is scheduled to make thirteen million dollars in 1:17:06.120 --> 1:17:12.080 bass salary and he's got so they could say, um, 1:17:12.080 --> 1:17:19.479 eleven million dollars by letting them go. He's gone. Let's 1:17:19.479 --> 1:17:23.680 come back social media questions and by the way, he's 1:17:23.680 --> 1:17:27.280 played better than I expected. Sorry, sorry, j P. Back 1:17:27.360 --> 1:17:33.720 me up. So I had to interrupted yet again. Back 1:17:33.760 --> 1:17:36.360 in a moment. Social media questions right around the corner. 1:17:36.840 --> 1:17:39.000 We've got a lot of them. Tonight it's Jaguars Happy 1:17:39.000 --> 1:17:50.479 Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. 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Welcome Back, Jaguars Happy Hour, 1:21:03.400 --> 1:21:07.240 JP Shatterck, Tony Baselli, Pete Prisco. Jags fell to the 1:21:07.280 --> 1:21:14.920 Buccaneers yesterday, Big changes, Gardner Minshew's now the starting quarterback again. 1:21:16.520 --> 1:21:20.120 He'll start this week and moving forward after he was 1:21:20.160 --> 1:21:22.880 put back in the lineup at halftime yesterday. It is 1:21:22.960 --> 1:21:26.479 time now for social media questions. Tony and Pete's favorite 1:21:26.520 --> 1:21:28.640 part of the show every single week. We've got a 1:21:28.680 --> 1:21:32.000 lot today, so let's get right to him. Number one 1:21:32.600 --> 1:21:36.599 at Jakun Kun one. What is wrong with the goal line? Offense? 1:21:36.720 --> 1:21:39.240 Is a play calling? Oh line? Not enough big guys, 1:21:39.320 --> 1:21:42.240 no fullback? Why don't we use Alan or tavn as 1:21:42.280 --> 1:21:46.559 a fullback. That's it. I mean, I got no problem 1:21:46.600 --> 1:21:48.240 with that. I mean you see a lot of teams 1:21:48.280 --> 1:21:53.800 doing I mean the Buccaneers used Vida Vella as a fullback. Uh. 1:21:55.200 --> 1:21:58.120 For the Buccaneers on their goal line, Uh, it's not 1:21:58.280 --> 1:22:00.960 been good. We've only have three Rushi touchdowns on the year. 1:22:02.000 --> 1:22:05.519 And when you're struggling to run the ball in the 1:22:05.600 --> 1:22:08.479 tight red zone, it starts with the offensive line, in 1:22:08.560 --> 1:22:11.880 my opinion, I think, and the tight ends camp block 1:22:11.920 --> 1:22:14.880 either that's a part of it. But you have no 1:22:14.960 --> 1:22:18.280 true fullback on the roster. So I think the the 1:22:18.600 --> 1:22:21.120 the social media questions the fair one. Why not put 1:22:21.320 --> 1:22:24.240 you know, Tavin Bryan or something like that in there? So, 1:22:24.800 --> 1:22:26.120 and then you have to look at scheme that goes 1:22:26.160 --> 1:22:29.080 to the schemes. I think it's all the above. That's 1:22:29.080 --> 1:22:33.280 a lot to decipher. Next question at minor forty nine 1:22:33.360 --> 1:22:36.240 or nine, question for Pete. If Tony stuck up for 1:22:36.320 --> 1:22:38.240 his Hall of Fame candidacy the way he sticks up 1:22:38.240 --> 1:22:40.639 for Norwell, would he be a Hall of Famer already? 1:22:41.640 --> 1:22:49.160 Your damn right, he would be. Yes, He's put He's 1:22:49.160 --> 1:22:51.080 gonna have Andrew Norwell in the Hall of Fame in 1:22:51.080 --> 1:22:55.360 about three weeks. I mean, you guys are out of control, 1:22:55.680 --> 1:22:58.839 out of control. Who's you guys? I'm just reading the questions. 1:22:59.240 --> 1:23:03.200 By the way, haven't congratulated, uh, Mr BISSELLI on being 1:23:03.240 --> 1:23:07.800 a finalist again along with Fred Taylor. Yes, semifinal, Yes, yes, yes, 1:23:08.160 --> 1:23:10.720 happy for both of them. Yeah, that's cool, It's really cool. 1:23:11.040 --> 1:23:13.479 Fred was fired up over the weekend talking to about it. 1:23:13.520 --> 1:23:15.240 I I texted with him and I know he was 1:23:15.320 --> 1:23:17.320 thrilled with it. And I know Tony. I've talked to 1:23:17.360 --> 1:23:20.840 you and you are too, And I'm locking it. This 1:23:21.080 --> 1:23:24.880 is the year. Oh you're locking it? The lock hasn't worked? Well, 1:23:25.280 --> 1:23:29.000 well that's for you. That's for you. My lock works. 1:23:29.160 --> 1:23:32.880 This is the year. I'm locking it. Pete has locked 1:23:32.920 --> 1:23:34.920 the Hall of Fame for Tony. We can We got 1:23:34.960 --> 1:23:40.840 to Runway ninety eight and have dinner. That sounds like 1:23:40.920 --> 1:23:44.360 a plan. I like it, uh, Next social media question 1:23:44.520 --> 1:23:49.760 at Oh, hey, there's the lock that I don't It 1:23:49.840 --> 1:23:51.840 doesn't make me feel very good because we haven't locked 1:23:51.920 --> 1:23:55.920 very many good things. Next question at Filthy Film. Hold on, 1:23:56.040 --> 1:23:59.439 how Pete, how's your lock been this year? Off and on? 1:23:59.640 --> 1:24:02.519 Not as as yours. Next question, what do you guys 1:24:02.560 --> 1:24:05.080 think about Prisco going for the Jags GM spot. I 1:24:05.120 --> 1:24:11.040 mean Mayock did it in Oakland. Prisco love this. It's 1:24:11.080 --> 1:24:15.720 the same question as last week. The answers people are smart. Yeah, 1:24:16.640 --> 1:24:20.000 not that they're saying that. Do you still want him 1:24:20.040 --> 1:24:22.960 as your vice gmpte. I already told you I'm not 1:24:23.040 --> 1:24:26.680 working for Pete Prisco system. Sure you are. We make 1:24:26.720 --> 1:24:31.000 a great team, but silly, Yeah, you just have to 1:24:31.080 --> 1:24:33.439 listen to my final say. And I would do all 1:24:33.479 --> 1:24:35.120 I would do all the work if Pete would take 1:24:35.120 --> 1:24:37.600 all the credit. Yeah, that'd be great. Here here's the 1:24:37.640 --> 1:24:40.040 plan for next year. As a since on the new GM, 1:24:41.840 --> 1:24:44.719 we're all gonna go to Canton and watch Basilli celebrate 1:24:44.880 --> 1:24:46.880 getting into the hall. To be a fun party. We'll 1:24:46.880 --> 1:24:51.680 have a big old time. And then and then you 1:24:51.760 --> 1:25:02.040 watched the whole season as they tank for Trevor, and 1:25:02.160 --> 1:25:06.200 then they get Trevor Lawrence and everything is rosie for 1:25:06.320 --> 1:25:10.519 the next decade and a half in Jacksonville. For Trevor. 1:25:10.560 --> 1:25:12.439 You can trade your two first round picks. G you 1:25:12.520 --> 1:25:15.160 haven't move up and get him. No, no, no, no, 1:25:15.360 --> 1:25:17.160 Trevor is a year later. That's what I'm saying, you 1:25:17.200 --> 1:25:19.320 have two draft picks a year. I'm not doing it 1:25:19.439 --> 1:25:21.960 that year either. I'm no, I'm going to tank because 1:25:22.000 --> 1:25:24.320 I'm gonna rebuild this thing the right way. I'm gonna 1:25:24.360 --> 1:25:26.760 tank for Trevor. I'm gonna use my two first round 1:25:26.800 --> 1:25:29.439 picks this year to get two big people. I'm gonna 1:25:30.000 --> 1:25:31.960 in the second, third round, I'm gonna get big people. 1:25:32.439 --> 1:25:35.679 And then and then for Trevor, he's already he's already 1:25:35.720 --> 1:25:39.719 disqualified himself. Let's move on. Yeah, you're no longer a candidate, 1:25:39.840 --> 1:25:43.479 Mr Criscoe, because Trevor's coming out next year. He's coming 1:25:43.479 --> 1:25:46.920 out next year, not two years from He's gonna not 1:25:46.960 --> 1:25:48.479 gonna be in this draft. He's gonna be in the 1:25:48.560 --> 1:25:50.639 one a year from now. And what JP is trying 1:25:50.680 --> 1:25:53.880 to say, you idiot, we have two first rounders, but 1:25:53.960 --> 1:25:56.120 I'm not trading them up. I'm gonna I'm gonna lose 1:25:56.240 --> 1:25:59.560 to get him. I don't need to trade up. You 1:25:59.800 --> 1:26:04.840 have a first round picks. Next question at Sam, I 1:26:05.000 --> 1:26:07.920 am sheer thirteen. What should we look for or cheer 1:26:08.040 --> 1:26:10.200 for give us a sliver of hope for the last 1:26:10.240 --> 1:26:13.240 couple of games. Tony and Peter J. Pow. You guys 1:26:13.280 --> 1:26:24.560 take this one. Pete get a better draft pick. And 1:26:24.680 --> 1:26:28.400 Josh Allen the approvement of Tavid Brian. Actually he's playing better. 1:26:29.040 --> 1:26:34.280 And watch Minshew, there's there's your things to watch. There 1:26:34.320 --> 1:26:37.160 are some young talented players in this team. Sure you 1:26:37.200 --> 1:26:38.760 want to see how they developed. I think that's a 1:26:38.880 --> 1:26:42.439 sliver of hope for the future. Next question at Riley 1:26:42.520 --> 1:26:45.360 Underscore Kendrick, do you guys know where I can donate? 1:26:45.439 --> 1:26:47.880 And at Jalen Ramsey Jersey. I tried local thrift stores, 1:26:47.880 --> 1:26:49.880 but they kept turning me down because they don't accept 1:26:49.960 --> 1:26:55.320 trash hashtag doova. I thought we were told we're not 1:26:55.400 --> 1:26:59.840 talking about the Rams one last week, right yesterday the 1:27:00.040 --> 1:27:03.920 Jalen Ramsey signed that guy's jersey freeman put in his house. Yeah, 1:27:03.920 --> 1:27:09.320 I don't think he would. No, No, what would the uh? 1:27:09.439 --> 1:27:11.439 I know we're not talking draft yet we are where 1:27:11.520 --> 1:27:13.599 the Rams drafting right now? That's what I was gonna ask. 1:27:14.360 --> 1:27:16.680 Right now, I'll tell you a second hold on they 1:27:16.720 --> 1:27:20.360 won yesterday since in the twenties, I think right, I 1:27:20.400 --> 1:27:24.840 think it's in the late teens. Let's go to the 1:27:24.920 --> 1:27:27.080 next day. The good dudes about that is they got 1:27:27.160 --> 1:27:31.519 cap issues going forward to Yes, they do absolutely. We'll 1:27:31.560 --> 1:27:34.080 get the answer to that coming up at John d Underscore. 1:27:34.080 --> 1:27:37.280 Scott has the next one. Do you remember Thesellly burger 1:27:37.439 --> 1:27:39.840 some of my fondest memories from the late nineties. What 1:27:40.120 --> 1:27:43.960 ingredients did it have? What would have improved it? Well, 1:27:44.080 --> 1:27:47.840 we've really gone we're going downhill here, but um we yeah. 1:27:47.880 --> 1:27:50.439 I had three patties on it, like on a Hoagi roll, 1:27:50.960 --> 1:27:53.920 two or three pieces of cheese, some onions and pickles 1:27:54.120 --> 1:27:59.080 or a little mayo, we mustard little mayo. It was. 1:27:59.160 --> 1:28:01.320 It was a good burger. Okay, what was that from 1:28:01.680 --> 1:28:05.880 Tony McDonald's and ninety five or six? Right? I forgot 1:28:05.960 --> 1:28:09.760 about what could have improved it didn't have onions on it, 1:28:11.400 --> 1:28:15.439 but okay, grilled onions improved it. I love onionspos oh, 1:28:15.840 --> 1:28:18.559 I like colopenios. Yeah, I think those would be two 1:28:18.600 --> 1:28:25.800 good editions. Maybe about cheddar cheese. I'd like one more one. Hey. 1:28:26.160 --> 1:28:30.080 By the way, if the Jaguars the Jaguars drafted today, 1:28:30.160 --> 1:28:34.080 they'd be picking eight for the wrong pick and twenty 1:28:34.400 --> 1:28:39.599 for the rams pick. All right, what else would improve 1:28:39.640 --> 1:28:42.880 these burger piece? Nothing? Let's go on that. Mushrooms I 1:28:42.920 --> 1:28:46.479 like mushrooms. Okay. Good, By the way, it has a 1:28:46.560 --> 1:28:52.479 side of ego that comes with it's not very nice, 1:28:55.040 --> 1:29:04.639 it's hurt full. You are correct, Sir knows blog. Thanks question, 1:29:05.360 --> 1:29:08.599 who does the Nick Foles signing fall on shot Con, 1:29:08.880 --> 1:29:12.639 Tom Coughlin or Dave Caldwell. So it's on Tom and Dave. 1:29:12.680 --> 1:29:18.280 I mean that that's their responsibility and all the above, right, No, no, no, 1:29:18.439 --> 1:29:20.519 because you hire good people and then you trust their 1:29:20.520 --> 1:29:23.760 ability to do the job. On the money, it's on 1:29:23.920 --> 1:29:27.160 Tom and Dave. You don't think though, that when they're 1:29:27.200 --> 1:29:30.839 ready to go sign Nick Foles, they don't call upstairs 1:29:30.880 --> 1:29:32.840 and say, hey, Mr Cohn, are you okay with us 1:29:32.920 --> 1:29:36.559 spending eight million? Yeah, but it's not. It's not Shod's 1:29:37.000 --> 1:29:42.280 job to evaluate the player, correct, that's the that's Tom's ultimately, Ultimately, 1:29:42.960 --> 1:29:45.680 if you want, it goes to Tom's Tom and and 1:29:46.080 --> 1:29:49.360 and ultimately I think that was Tom's decision. It's his decision. 1:29:50.200 --> 1:29:52.360 And I think he was the one that was wanted 1:29:52.479 --> 1:29:56.280 Folds more than anybody, just like I think he was 1:29:56.360 --> 1:29:58.840 the one. And you guys to deny this. I don't 1:29:58.840 --> 1:30:03.720 know if you've heard this too, but he wanted Leonard Bournett. Well, 1:30:04.200 --> 1:30:12.920 I'm not gonna speculate who wanted what, but in when 1:30:13.280 --> 1:30:17.200 uh Shod Kohn hired Tom Coughlin be in charge of 1:30:17.240 --> 1:30:19.840 all football, it was very clear that he had final 1:30:19.920 --> 1:30:24.080 say in all football decisions. So how the information is 1:30:24.120 --> 1:30:27.080 gathered and who is RESPONSI for what piece of that information? 1:30:27.720 --> 1:30:31.240 And up to Tom? The sign off is Tom at 1:30:31.240 --> 1:30:37.240 the end of the day. So so how it works? Yes, 1:30:38.360 --> 1:30:42.000 Tony as a Jaguar guy in the legend and all that. 1:30:42.240 --> 1:30:43.680 Does it bother you when you sit there and watch 1:30:43.720 --> 1:30:47.360 the games and you see just Suson beat down New 1:30:47.439 --> 1:30:50.679 England on Sunday night, you see Lamar Jackson running wild, 1:30:51.400 --> 1:30:55.360 ven you see you see you see Patrick Mahomes doing 1:30:55.439 --> 1:30:58.519 what he's doing. And they passed on the chance to 1:30:58.640 --> 1:31:02.240 draft all of them. Yeah, let's go to the next question. 1:31:07.280 --> 1:31:11.040 Final question here at STU whinners for Pete. Given the 1:31:11.200 --> 1:31:14.320 secondary needs work where thin as safety, the linebackers are trash, 1:31:14.360 --> 1:31:16.679 and the defensive line is likely to be worse next season. 1:31:17.040 --> 1:31:19.080 But players being let go, where would you start on 1:31:19.160 --> 1:31:23.320 the inevitable rebuild that's now needed. Me and Tony talked 1:31:23.320 --> 1:31:25.400 about it all the time. You have to draft big 1:31:25.520 --> 1:31:29.719 people all the way around. Fine, big people, offensive lineman, 1:31:29.840 --> 1:31:33.519 defensive lineman. If you're good on those lines, like the 1:31:33.600 --> 1:31:36.960 forty Niners, you're going to be good team. And and 1:31:37.120 --> 1:31:38.920 that's where you have to start. So it's all about 1:31:38.960 --> 1:31:41.640 the draft, and Tony, I agree with you. You go 1:31:41.800 --> 1:31:45.240 big defensive lineman first, Avid's lineman second, whatever you want 1:31:45.280 --> 1:31:47.000 to do, but you gotta get big people in the draft. 1:31:47.240 --> 1:31:50.080 So I mean, I'm a firm believer. You build a 1:31:50.120 --> 1:31:52.679 team inside out. Obviously, you have to have the quarterback. 1:31:53.120 --> 1:31:55.719 You don't have to have a you know, Paul Fame quarterback, 1:31:55.800 --> 1:31:58.800 but you have to have a good quarterback that can 1:31:59.800 --> 1:32:02.920 we in games for you and you know, operate in 1:32:02.960 --> 1:32:05.320 the offense. So take that off the board. You have 1:32:05.439 --> 1:32:08.200 to have offensive defensive line. You have to build with 1:32:08.320 --> 1:32:11.600 big people. And then the next piece on defense is 1:32:11.680 --> 1:32:14.840 you need one really good corner that will help you 1:32:14.920 --> 1:32:17.599 because it can change how you do your back halfs cover. 1:32:18.360 --> 1:32:25.200 But starting you build with big human beings. Did you 1:32:25.320 --> 1:32:29.559 do that? Did you do the Thursday games Thanksgiving? Yeah? 1:32:29.600 --> 1:32:33.519 I did? Uh the game? Did the night games? Okay? 1:32:33.880 --> 1:32:38.679 I thought you did the Bill's Cowboys games? But uh, yeah, 1:32:38.880 --> 1:32:41.719 I mean Josh Allen's another one who's growing as a quarterback. 1:32:41.840 --> 1:32:44.680 I mean, these guys are becoming good players, and it's 1:32:44.720 --> 1:32:46.840 just got to be. If you're a Jaguar fan, you 1:32:47.000 --> 1:32:49.840 have to be infuriated when you see that happening. And 1:32:49.920 --> 1:32:51.800 then you see your guy get benched. You see what 1:32:51.880 --> 1:32:54.200 they paid Bordles. He's not there anymore. I mean, the 1:32:54.280 --> 1:32:56.839 whole thing has been a disaster from the quarterback position. 1:32:57.200 --> 1:33:01.720 Not good, not good, not good, no other way to 1:33:01.760 --> 1:33:07.400 say it. Well, how do you fix it? You hope, 1:33:07.439 --> 1:33:10.040 like heck bench you becomes something that you didn't expect 1:33:10.080 --> 1:33:13.800 him to become. That's how you fix it. And the 1:33:13.880 --> 1:33:16.760 he'll have a year to do that. Yeah, I mean 1:33:16.800 --> 1:33:21.439 I think, I mean, unless you're sitting there where you 1:33:21.560 --> 1:33:23.960 get all the way up to one or two, which 1:33:24.000 --> 1:33:28.360 I don't see happening, and you value. Yeah, but even 1:33:28.400 --> 1:33:30.680 if you got the one right now, if you were 1:33:30.720 --> 1:33:32.720 the one team, would you Joe Burrow is the only 1:33:32.800 --> 1:33:34.840 guy right now that you can pass my point? I would. 1:33:34.840 --> 1:33:36.479 I would do a lot of work on Joe Burrows. 1:33:36.520 --> 1:33:40.160 And if I think he is the next great quarterback 1:33:40.200 --> 1:33:46.600 in this league, then I'm taking Joe Burrows now. I 1:33:46.680 --> 1:33:48.680 don't know that. For a fact, I have watched one 1:33:48.760 --> 1:33:52.080 game of Joe burrows entire career, which is a Goods 1:33:52.120 --> 1:33:55.400 Alabama That's it. That's all I saw. So I don't 1:33:55.439 --> 1:33:57.880 know if he's the guy. I don't know if he 1:33:57.960 --> 1:33:59.599 has the skill set. I don't know what his mental 1:33:59.680 --> 1:34:02.960 makeup biz. I don't know anything about him. But I'm saying, 1:34:03.040 --> 1:34:05.439 if you got to the point where you're sitting there 1:34:05.479 --> 1:34:10.519 at one and you think there's a a quarterback that 1:34:10.600 --> 1:34:13.599 can be a generational guy that's going to be your 1:34:13.640 --> 1:34:16.280 guy for the next ten to fifteen years, you pick them. 1:34:17.920 --> 1:34:21.960 Otherwise you roll with Minshew. You let that thing play 1:34:22.000 --> 1:34:24.680 out through the him and fulls, through the training camp 1:34:24.720 --> 1:34:28.479 and all that. But you build up both lines and 1:34:28.520 --> 1:34:30.240 you gotta get more speed in the secondary. That's the 1:34:30.240 --> 1:34:31.680 other thing that does worry me. I don't think we're 1:34:31.760 --> 1:34:35.599 very fast in the back end. Are they fast enough 1:34:35.600 --> 1:34:40.519 at wide receiver? Well? DJ can fly? Didn't you run 1:34:40.600 --> 1:34:44.080 like four three? Yeah? Yeah, I think they are. I'm 1:34:44.120 --> 1:34:46.240 just asking because we watched these teams, like we watched 1:34:46.280 --> 1:34:48.360 New England last night. They're not fast enough at wide receiver. 1:34:49.080 --> 1:34:52.000 I mean DJ can fly. There's any question about that. 1:34:54.479 --> 1:34:57.559 They'll do it for our social questions. They put us 1:34:57.600 --> 1:35:00.439 in a better mood. Oh yeah, great, back in a moment. 1:35:00.760 --> 1:35:02.160 This will put you in a great mood. A f 1:35:02.240 --> 1:35:07.280 C South run down. We still got him at the 1:35:07.360 --> 1:35:10.280 top is e No, No, They're falling a little bit, 1:35:10.320 --> 1:35:14.439 pe just a little. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the 1:35:14.720 --> 1:35:24.400 Jaguars Digital Network. 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For the official 1:38:15.439 --> 1:38:19.120 sweepstakes rules, terms and conditions, visit Jaguars dot com slash 1:38:19.320 --> 1:38:39.280 Like a Mobile Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P Shadrick, 1:38:39.439 --> 1:38:44.879 Tony Vaselly, Pete Prisco Glad you're along with us eleven 1:38:45.000 --> 1:38:48.519 the final Yesterday, Buccaneers over the Jaguars. The Jags are 1:38:48.560 --> 1:38:52.360 now four and eight. There were four and four at 1:38:52.400 --> 1:38:56.880 the end of October. And the worst part, I don't 1:38:56.880 --> 1:38:59.559 know if it's the worst part. Wanted to add another 1:38:59.680 --> 1:39:01.760 worst part. I will tell you once you say it. 1:39:01.880 --> 1:39:04.040 Let's see. Because not only they've lost four straights, they've 1:39:04.200 --> 1:39:08.639 they've been blown out. It has been a bad looking 1:39:09.040 --> 1:39:15.240 to possession game I mean losses. I mean, so if 1:39:15.280 --> 1:39:17.040 you average it out, I'm sure it goes well over 1:39:18.280 --> 1:39:22.280 losses over the four games. That's some. As I said 1:39:22.280 --> 1:39:26.280 in the post game, it's just some bad football. It's 1:39:26.320 --> 1:39:28.840 all it is. It's bad. It might be the worst 1:39:28.920 --> 1:39:32.000 that's ever been around that and that says something. Seriously, 1:39:32.720 --> 1:39:34.680 this might be the worst the worst little stretch of 1:39:34.720 --> 1:39:39.320 football played by any jagg Wars team that includes the 1:39:39.360 --> 1:39:46.800 expansion team. We're just some really at the end of 1:39:46.840 --> 1:39:49.439 Coffin's tenure, there's some really bad football. No, they were 1:39:49.479 --> 1:39:55.280 in games. This might be the world. I'm serious. This 1:39:55.400 --> 1:39:57.920 might be the worst stretch of games that any Jaguar 1:39:58.040 --> 1:40:04.240 team has ever had. It's painful. How could we be 1:40:04.360 --> 1:40:11.479 so wrong about this team? We're way off? Yeah, way off. 1:40:13.560 --> 1:40:17.280 We'll beat your way off? So are you? No? I 1:40:17.360 --> 1:40:21.040 had him? I had us losing four straight. No, you 1:40:21.160 --> 1:40:27.600 had him winning seventh straight. Not No, I go to 1:40:27.640 --> 1:40:32.080 the Super Bowl. Remember, we're gonna all eat it runway right? 1:40:32.240 --> 1:40:34.560 And when the when the division though? You said, and 1:40:34.640 --> 1:40:38.000 have a home field by Yeah? Yeah, a little off 1:40:38.280 --> 1:40:41.600 missed it? Just this coach. Let's take a look at 1:40:41.640 --> 1:40:45.439 the AFC South results yesterday, the games in the division. 1:40:45.520 --> 1:40:49.040 There was a divisional game Titans and the Colts. The 1:40:49.120 --> 1:40:52.160 Titans won that one one seventeen. Derrick Henry went for 1:40:52.240 --> 1:40:56.000 one line and a touchdown. Tannehill made some big throws 1:40:56.120 --> 1:40:59.920 efficient a couple of touchdowns, and the Titans made a 1:41:00.120 --> 1:41:02.439 move there. Pete, how about the fact that they're talking 1:41:02.439 --> 1:41:09.120 about franchising Tanny Hill. It's unbelievable. I mean, he's playing 1:41:09.160 --> 1:41:11.719 pretty good football. He's four and one is a start. 1:41:11.800 --> 1:41:15.320 He's playing really good football. And Jacksonville could hit him 1:41:15.320 --> 1:41:18.519 a lot cheaper than Nick Foles. Here we go, but 1:41:19.040 --> 1:41:24.200 let's be real about it. They could have Texans beat 1:41:24.280 --> 1:41:29.679 the Patriots on Sunday Night football. Watson was strong again. 1:41:29.800 --> 1:41:32.400 Three touchdowns through the year and one receiving on a 1:41:32.479 --> 1:41:36.280 pitch play. Brady had some yardage late to try to 1:41:36.320 --> 1:41:38.760 get them back in the game. Three touchdowns and an interception, 1:41:38.840 --> 1:41:41.960 but Watson showing off again. This is uh, this is 1:41:42.000 --> 1:41:45.040 a pretty good Texans team right now, and they're getting 1:41:45.080 --> 1:41:47.720 healthy in the secondary, which makes them play better. It 1:41:47.800 --> 1:41:50.720 helps that New England can't run, but they played better 1:41:50.760 --> 1:41:53.439 in defense. That's a big win for the Texas because 1:41:53.520 --> 1:41:56.520 they Bill O'Brien was oh and five against the Patriots 1:41:56.640 --> 1:41:59.120 and and to win that game is important for him. 1:41:59.160 --> 1:42:02.040 And obviously look out close at division races. I think 1:42:02.080 --> 1:42:04.840 it's gonna be right down of the wire. Are the Patriots? 1:42:04.840 --> 1:42:07.080 I mean I when we bury the Patriots at least 1:42:07.160 --> 1:42:10.720 once a year, usually not this late. I don't, but 1:42:10.840 --> 1:42:15.559 most people do. Are you are you. I mean, yeah, 1:42:16.439 --> 1:42:19.160 they do play the Chiefs this week though at Oh, 1:42:19.760 --> 1:42:23.479 think about this, Tony, if the somehow not somehow, because 1:42:23.479 --> 1:42:25.679 it's possible if the Bills beat the Ravens this week 1:42:26.760 --> 1:42:30.200 at home and the Patriots lose to the Chiefs at home, 1:42:30.760 --> 1:42:32.920 the Bills will be tied for first place. But it's 1:42:32.960 --> 1:42:36.320 still playing with it later on the season in Buffalo. Like, well, 1:42:36.320 --> 1:42:40.080 here's the thing. Even if Buffalo loses this game and 1:42:40.240 --> 1:42:44.640 the Patriots both lose, they're only one game back and 1:42:45.320 --> 1:42:46.679 they play each other at the end of the season. 1:42:46.680 --> 1:42:49.640 If the Buffalo Bills wouldn't beat them, they'd split the 1:42:49.880 --> 1:42:51.880 split the senior season series. So you have to go 1:42:51.960 --> 1:42:53.800 to division a bunch of tie breakers. I mean it's 1:42:53.880 --> 1:42:55.800 not I mean there's a lot of football left to 1:42:55.840 --> 1:42:59.360 be playing the AFC East. Yeah, Patriots have issues. You 1:42:59.439 --> 1:43:02.160 watch the game. They I think they can't run, so 1:43:02.280 --> 1:43:05.200 they double Edelman. In the past, when you doubled Edelman, 1:43:05.520 --> 1:43:07.280 you could throw the grock because he or he was 1:43:07.320 --> 1:43:08.800 getting double when you can throw it Edelman. Now they 1:43:08.800 --> 1:43:12.040 don't have anybody else to throw to run because I mean, 1:43:12.560 --> 1:43:15.720 Sony Michelle got away from it. They got away from 1:43:15.760 --> 1:43:17.880 the line isn't as good either, but they got it. 1:43:18.000 --> 1:43:19.960 He ran right off the batty. He was running running. 1:43:19.960 --> 1:43:21.519 Then they got away from it. I don't understand why 1:43:21.520 --> 1:43:26.040 they did that, all right, the division standings look like this, 1:43:26.320 --> 1:43:28.680 Houston at eight and four leading the way three and 1:43:28.760 --> 1:43:31.519 one in the division, Tennessee making a move at seven 1:43:31.600 --> 1:43:35.400 and five, two and two in the ANFC South, Indiant 1:43:35.479 --> 1:43:37.920 six and six, and the Jags at the bottom of 1:43:38.080 --> 1:43:40.280 four and eight. Well, I mean, the power rankings are 1:43:40.320 --> 1:43:44.400 the rankings. Uh, Tennessee is playing good football, and Houston 1:43:44.439 --> 1:43:46.040 saw us to play there. I think they go to 1:43:46.200 --> 1:43:48.799 Tennessee from the play him. They play him twice Tonty 1:43:49.000 --> 1:43:54.240 in the last three weeks. And don't be shocked. I 1:43:54.280 --> 1:43:56.519 think Titans are the better team right now. If the Titans, 1:43:56.600 --> 1:44:00.679 who are physical and run the ball, don't be shocked 1:44:00.720 --> 1:44:01.880 at the end of the season if they're at the 1:44:01.920 --> 1:44:04.080 top of the division. I'm not I'm not igreting it, 1:44:04.200 --> 1:44:06.720 but just don't be shocked if it happens. I think 1:44:06.760 --> 1:44:09.639 it will happen. Do you think, I think? But yeah 1:44:09.880 --> 1:44:11.840 so you so. If you're doing power rankings, you have 1:44:11.920 --> 1:44:15.800 Tennessee as one. Houston is too, oh right, all right, now, man, 1:44:15.880 --> 1:44:17.640 maybe I might put them ahead of them. You just 1:44:17.720 --> 1:44:22.080 said they're a better team. That was an oppressive winless 1:44:22.120 --> 1:44:25.120 like for Houston, though, I I got. I mean they're 1:44:25.160 --> 1:44:27.200 close for me. I just they played twice in the 1:44:27.640 --> 1:44:32.640 That's what's gonna decide it. Indianapolis has had problems with 1:44:32.800 --> 1:44:36.320 for sept the last couple of weeks. M There you 1:44:36.360 --> 1:44:40.760 have it. The AFC South. The Jags are no longer contenders. Yeah, 1:44:41.200 --> 1:44:45.760 that division, I think are contenders in the division. Look 1:44:45.800 --> 1:44:47.120 four and four if they would have made a run 1:44:47.200 --> 1:44:51.120 through that next month. Sure at four and fourth if 1:44:51.160 --> 1:44:57.519 they went three straight over the Titans, the Titans, the Bengals, 1:44:57.680 --> 1:45:02.360 the Broncos, and the Jets. Oh and the Titans, now 1:45:02.520 --> 1:45:04.880 looks like a good win because that's the only team 1:45:04.920 --> 1:45:07.560 that has a winning record that well. They it was 1:45:07.640 --> 1:45:10.240 not the Tanny Hill Titans. It was the Mariota Titans. 1:45:10.360 --> 1:45:13.000 And it was a game that we got the early turnover, 1:45:13.160 --> 1:45:16.280 jumped up the muff, jumped on fast and kind of 1:45:16.400 --> 1:45:18.639 just rode the momentum till the end and slowed down 1:45:18.800 --> 1:45:21.320 so they could actually so maybe the Jaguars could have 1:45:21.439 --> 1:45:26.160 the first overall pick if they had lost that game piece. Well, 1:45:26.160 --> 1:45:29.719 the Bengals aren't winning another game, are they. They played 1:45:29.760 --> 1:45:34.639 Miami again, so somebody's got to win another one. Yeah, 1:45:35.560 --> 1:45:37.400 let's come back. Let's look around the rest of the 1:45:37.520 --> 1:45:41.600 National Football League Finals from yesterday. This has been a 1:45:41.680 --> 1:45:48.000 bummer tonight. I'll be honest with you. I don't even 1:45:48.000 --> 1:45:51.519 know what to say. No, it's reality check, is what 1:45:51.600 --> 1:45:54.759 it is. 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Shadrick, 1:49:22.520 --> 1:49:26.680 Tony Boselli, Pete Priscoe, and yet again, if we had 1:49:26.760 --> 1:49:31.280 the in commercial unfiltered podcast, it would be a hit. 1:49:32.040 --> 1:49:36.599 Pete Wood, Pete before we go around the league all, 1:49:37.280 --> 1:49:40.320 you know, joking and tongue in cheek, you know. Put aside, 1:49:41.439 --> 1:49:43.040 how do you see this thing playing out the last 1:49:43.080 --> 1:49:47.360 four weeks here? I think Benshew will will be the 1:49:47.439 --> 1:49:49.600 start of the entire four week stretch and he should be. 1:49:50.280 --> 1:49:51.920 I think you'll play well in a couple of games, 1:49:51.960 --> 1:49:55.599 and average and others. I don't think they're gonna win 1:49:55.640 --> 1:49:59.360 a game. Uh, you know, maybe one, one, and three 1:49:59.439 --> 1:50:01.960 down a stretch and then you're gonna see wholesale changes 1:50:02.000 --> 1:50:03.640 at the end of the year. That's that's how I 1:50:03.680 --> 1:50:07.519 see it playing out. I mean, it's not it's not. 1:50:07.720 --> 1:50:12.280 If you want reality, I'm not arguing with you, but 1:50:12.360 --> 1:50:14.840 it's a long four weeks. It's going to be a 1:50:14.880 --> 1:50:18.360 long four weeks. Our show, this show on Monday will 1:50:18.520 --> 1:50:20.519 make for a long four weeks because we're gonna say 1:50:20.560 --> 1:50:22.920 the same thing over and over again, which means JP, 1:50:23.520 --> 1:50:26.600 we gotta start looking at the draft, yes, at some 1:50:26.760 --> 1:50:29.840 point and free agents. Well, I think at some point 1:50:29.880 --> 1:50:34.320 you the coaching staff can't do this because you just 1:50:34.360 --> 1:50:36.880 gotta keep on fighting. That's right. But I'll tell you 1:50:36.960 --> 1:50:40.440 the thing you do. Worry about it as as an organization. 1:50:41.640 --> 1:50:44.840 I mean, if it's continues to go the path that 1:50:44.920 --> 1:50:49.120 Bete just said, it's obvious that like changes, wholesale changes 1:50:49.120 --> 1:50:52.120 are gonna be made. The danger on every staff is 1:50:52.400 --> 1:50:54.120 all of a sudden, those guys are starting to spend 1:50:54.120 --> 1:50:57.880 as much time looking for their next gig, which is 1:50:58.600 --> 1:51:01.360 which is natural and understand them, but they got families. 1:51:01.520 --> 1:51:04.760 They got families. I'm not being critical of them. I'm 1:51:04.760 --> 1:51:09.680 just saying it's not good. That's the worst part of 1:51:10.200 --> 1:51:13.439 a coaching firing. Look the head coach, he made a 1:51:13.479 --> 1:51:15.560 lot of money, can deal with it. He'll move on. 1:51:16.120 --> 1:51:19.040 It's like the younger guys who have young families and 1:51:19.040 --> 1:51:20.879 they got and then they signed up with their profession, 1:51:20.960 --> 1:51:23.080 so you know what you're getting into. But it's never 1:51:23.240 --> 1:51:25.320 easy on the families when you get fired like that. 1:51:25.520 --> 1:51:28.040 They gotta go scramble to find other jobs and hope, 1:51:28.080 --> 1:51:30.880 like you can stay in in in the NFL, it's tough, 1:51:32.280 --> 1:51:35.800 not fun. You get you, you get hired, You become 1:51:35.840 --> 1:51:38.640 a coach knowing that you're probably gonna get They all 1:51:38.720 --> 1:51:44.360 get fired, right, everybody gets fired. Tom Goffer got fired 1:51:44.360 --> 1:51:47.240 in New York and he want two Super Bowls. Yes, 1:51:47.439 --> 1:51:55.639 now he resigned. Oh that's right, technically yeah, okay. Let's 1:51:55.680 --> 1:51:58.479 go around the National Football League and recap all these games. 1:51:58.600 --> 1:52:03.120 Let's starting Thanksgiving the Airs over the Lions. The Bears 1:52:03.360 --> 1:52:05.960 come away with Risky started playing better in the second half, 1:52:06.160 --> 1:52:09.360 made some plays, made some throws. Two games in a row, 1:52:09.439 --> 1:52:11.960 he's played better. Yeah, I agree, he's trending in the 1:52:12.080 --> 1:52:17.439 right direction there, six and six. It's it's a long 1:52:17.479 --> 1:52:19.439 shof for them to get the wild card just because 1:52:19.760 --> 1:52:23.560 of how strong I mean you have, Uh, you know, 1:52:23.720 --> 1:52:25.639 you have the two teams in the NFC West. They're 1:52:25.680 --> 1:52:28.560 not getting the wild card. Both are tenant too. You 1:52:28.680 --> 1:52:34.960 have Really they're gonna be fighting for the Rams, I guess, Pete, no, 1:52:36.600 --> 1:52:41.960 because you have them, the Vikings and the Packers. Yeah, 1:52:42.800 --> 1:52:46.880 Bills over the Cowboys. Emotional Jerry Jones after the games 1:52:47.000 --> 1:52:50.240 these days, Well, that's another job that's gonna be open, 1:52:50.320 --> 1:52:52.360 in my opinion, even if they go to the playoffs, 1:52:52.760 --> 1:52:54.719 unless they make a playoff run, I don't see Jerry 1:52:54.760 --> 1:52:57.280 Jones bringing Jason Garrett back. Pete, I don't either, And 1:52:57.320 --> 1:52:58.760 I think he's gonna go big and try and get 1:52:58.800 --> 1:53:01.400 Lincoln Riley. That's what I think he's gonna right up 1:53:01.400 --> 1:53:04.280 the road. And by the way, let's give John mcdermock credit. 1:53:05.760 --> 1:53:08.519 Guy has done an unbelievable job with that team. Buffalo 1:53:08.600 --> 1:53:10.560 is a good team, and he's a good coach. And 1:53:10.680 --> 1:53:13.640 Josh Allen's becoming a good quarterback like some of us 1:53:13.680 --> 1:53:16.840 predicted he would. And you you keep on saying that, 1:53:17.320 --> 1:53:19.519 and for anyone who doesn't know the reason, he keeps 1:53:19.560 --> 1:53:22.000 on bringing up Josh Allen because he was saying in 1:53:22.120 --> 1:53:25.600 that draft that he was the best quarterback, and it 1:53:25.680 --> 1:53:27.479 did look so good for a while, especially at the 1:53:27.479 --> 1:53:28.960 beginning of this year, and now that he's playing well, 1:53:29.000 --> 1:53:31.679 Pete Brisco not afraid to pat himself on the back, 1:53:31.920 --> 1:53:34.840 will make sure. I always thought he would be the 1:53:34.880 --> 1:53:36.880 best of that draft. He's not the best in that draft, 1:53:36.960 --> 1:53:40.960 by the way, No Lamar Jackson is, but Josh Allen 1:53:41.040 --> 1:53:45.200 might end up being. Remember the Jackson Bills met just 1:53:45.280 --> 1:53:48.240 two seasons and go in the playoffs going different directions. 1:53:48.320 --> 1:53:51.559 Since Thanksgiving Night game, you had this one Tony Saints 1:53:51.720 --> 1:53:53.960 over the Falcons. Not a very good game at all. 1:53:54.360 --> 1:53:57.200 The Saints weren't very good offensively. Give the Falcons credit, 1:53:57.680 --> 1:54:01.160 but the Falcons have major issue. Their offensive line is 1:54:01.240 --> 1:54:05.080 not very good at all. They couldn't block anybody. He 1:54:05.200 --> 1:54:08.000 got brutalized in that game. He got abused, They had 1:54:08.080 --> 1:54:11.160 no Julio Jones. They're not a very good football team. 1:54:11.200 --> 1:54:13.439 That's another team. I think there's gonna be wholesale changes. 1:54:13.560 --> 1:54:16.680 It's gonna The only reason there's a hope that there 1:54:16.680 --> 1:54:19.880 won't be is because how much Arthur Blank likes Thomas 1:54:19.960 --> 1:54:23.439 de Meatroff and Dan Quinn. But that was a Thursday 1:54:23.520 --> 1:54:27.840 night primetime game on Thanksgiving Division rivals, and it was 1:54:28.240 --> 1:54:33.040 the stadium was half filled. Can't have that game of 1:54:33.160 --> 1:54:35.600 the week in the NFL. The Ravens over the forty 1:54:35.680 --> 1:54:39.640 nine seventeen the last second field goal. Lamar Jackson solidifying 1:54:39.840 --> 1:54:42.800 his m VP front running status if it wasn't already 1:54:42.840 --> 1:54:47.520 solidified right now. But let's not just give it to 1:54:47.640 --> 1:54:49.800 him quite yet. He's he is the front runner, but 1:54:49.880 --> 1:54:52.280 a guy named Russell Wilson, who will see on Monday 1:54:52.320 --> 1:54:54.160 Night football, is having a great year too. I think 1:54:54.200 --> 1:54:55.960 it's down to either one of those two. Is the 1:54:56.080 --> 1:54:58.080 m v P. Last two weeks, he's tailed off a bit. 1:54:59.280 --> 1:55:01.920 He's a statistic I agree. I think Lamar is the 1:55:02.000 --> 1:55:04.240 front runner, there's no doubt about it. But I think 1:55:04.320 --> 1:55:06.480 that game said as much about the forty niners and 1:55:06.560 --> 1:55:08.880 what type of team they are. Go across the country 1:55:08.960 --> 1:55:13.720 at ten am kickoff their local time, terrible weather, wet rain. 1:55:14.000 --> 1:55:16.320 Baltimore is a good football team, tough place to play, 1:55:16.800 --> 1:55:19.320 and it took everything the Ravens had. And by the 1:55:19.400 --> 1:55:22.000 way the forty nine are slowed down, they're the first 1:55:22.040 --> 1:55:25.320 team that really slowed down that offense. That's a good 1:55:25.360 --> 1:55:28.960 football team. And don't be surprised if the two teams 1:55:29.040 --> 1:55:32.480 we just saw we're seeing in Miami in the Super Bowl. Hey. 1:55:32.560 --> 1:55:35.040 By the way, one quick thing about Lamar Jackson. In 1:55:35.080 --> 1:55:36.560 a million years, did you ever think that a guy 1:55:36.560 --> 1:55:38.320 would throw up a hundred thirty yards and we'd be 1:55:38.360 --> 1:55:41.160 talking about him as the MTB because the problem is 1:55:41.200 --> 1:55:50.160 he rushed Redskins over the Panthers. Yes, another job that'd 1:55:50.200 --> 1:55:52.240 be opened both those guys. I think both those teams 1:55:52.280 --> 1:55:57.280 have new head coaches next year. Uh. The Panthers aren't 1:55:57.280 --> 1:55:58.560 a very good team. They have a great player on 1:55:58.640 --> 1:56:01.560 Christie McCaffrey. You know, Kyle Allen has tailed off a 1:56:01.640 --> 1:56:04.720 little bit. And to lose that game they had to lead, 1:56:04.840 --> 1:56:06.560 but to lose to the Redskins the way they did, 1:56:06.720 --> 1:56:10.280 I do not see uh uh. David Tapper, the owner 1:56:10.480 --> 1:56:13.400 of the Carolina Panthers, sticking with Ron Rivera. They can't 1:56:13.400 --> 1:56:16.400 stop the run at all. By the way, terrible The 1:56:16.480 --> 1:56:18.480 black Cat ran on the field of Monday Night Football 1:56:18.480 --> 1:56:21.640 in November four. Since then, teams with cat mascots were 1:56:21.720 --> 1:56:25.040 winless oh and twelve. Coming into the weekend. The Bengals 1:56:25.080 --> 1:56:27.440 snapped that though they got their first win of the 1:56:27.520 --> 1:56:29.680 year and broke the curse all at one time. There's 1:56:29.720 --> 1:56:32.440 no such thing as a black Cat curse. That's ridiculous 1:56:32.480 --> 1:56:36.400 and foolish. But congratulations to the Bengals getting off the 1:56:36.440 --> 1:56:39.120 schneide and for Zach Taylor getting his first career win 1:56:39.160 --> 1:56:42.440 as a head coach. And Darna was terrible, terrible the 1:56:42.520 --> 1:56:50.960 other yesterday, Dolphins over the Eagles. Dolphins in that game 1:56:51.280 --> 1:56:53.800 can't happen, Philly, cannot happen. But give it the dog. 1:56:53.880 --> 1:56:56.400 I mean, Brian Flores, I mean, everyone was killing them 1:56:56.840 --> 1:56:59.520 that they're taking and you talk to people in that 1:56:59.600 --> 1:57:01.920 building think it was even Dan Marino said something of 1:57:02.040 --> 1:57:04.880 how well he has got those guys prepared and to 1:57:05.000 --> 1:57:07.280 play hard. They're not very talented, but they play hard. 1:57:08.040 --> 1:57:10.640 I agree, But when from the Eagle standpoint, there's no 1:57:10.680 --> 1:57:13.720 way you could be and allow that game to happen. 1:57:13.760 --> 1:57:16.080 The way that secondary for the Eagles is the trocious. 1:57:16.120 --> 1:57:18.240 So Pete, they're really bad. Yes, they had played better 1:57:18.280 --> 1:57:20.879 than the last couple of weeks, and they were terrible yesterday. 1:57:21.120 --> 1:57:23.320 Let's get through the final few games. Your Packers over 1:57:23.360 --> 1:57:26.600 the Giants and the snow in New York the Steelers 1:57:26.680 --> 1:57:31.920 over the Browns. But stop real quick. Pete is Freddy 1:57:32.000 --> 1:57:36.120 Kitchens in trouble, Yes, he is in trouble. Rams over 1:57:36.200 --> 1:57:40.960 the Cardinals, Big Broncos over the Chargers. Wild ending there 1:57:41.000 --> 1:57:43.720 with a pass interference call. Terrible call. You don't call 1:57:43.800 --> 1:57:45.760 that in that situation, but it was. It was just 1:57:45.920 --> 1:57:49.360 an awful call. Over officiated. Let him play. It was 1:57:49.560 --> 1:57:52.280 first of all, Casey Hayward was looking back at the ball. 1:57:53.200 --> 1:57:55.000 You don't call that in the middle of the second quarter. 1:57:55.080 --> 1:57:57.640 You clearly don't call that. In the final seconds, you 1:57:57.760 --> 1:58:02.440 don't call that. Ever, Chiefs over there is forty to nine. Yeah, 1:58:02.640 --> 1:58:05.120 Raiders were terrible. So much for the idea that the 1:58:05.200 --> 1:58:08.040 Raiders could compete the last two weeks kinda ruin that. 1:58:09.520 --> 1:58:12.320 It's a monster match up on Monday Night football, a 1:58:12.440 --> 1:58:14.320 pair of teams trying to keep pace at the top 1:58:14.360 --> 1:58:17.680 of their respective divisions. A suddenly resurgent Kirk Cousins has 1:58:17.760 --> 1:58:20.640 twenty one touchdowns and only three picks as he leads 1:58:20.680 --> 1:58:23.920 the eight and three Minnesota Vikings into the Pacific Northwest 1:58:24.280 --> 1:58:27.040 to face Russell Wilson, who's falling a little bit off 1:58:27.120 --> 1:58:29.600 that m v P pace, but still has his Seattle 1:58:29.640 --> 1:58:32.120 Seahawks team at nine and two. Who you got tonight 1:58:32.560 --> 1:58:36.120 in Seattle? Another great Monday night matchup. I mean, you know, 1:58:36.280 --> 1:58:38.680 years passed, Monday Night football had fallen off. They weren't 1:58:38.680 --> 1:58:40.600 giving them very good games in my opinion, but this 1:58:40.800 --> 1:58:44.560 is another great one. I think the Vikings are really 1:58:44.640 --> 1:58:47.880 good and Kirk Cousins is playing good football. They have 1:58:47.960 --> 1:58:51.400 two outstanding receivers and one of my favorite backs in 1:58:51.440 --> 1:58:53.760 the NFL and Delvin cuk Uh. They can rush the 1:58:53.800 --> 1:58:58.680 pastor going to Seattle's tough, tough place to play, but 1:58:58.800 --> 1:59:01.240 I think the Vikes win a close game to Wow. 1:59:01.440 --> 1:59:05.160 Pete no feeling tonight though. Tony he's out, so he's 1:59:05.200 --> 1:59:08.200 got the hamstring injury. He's not gonna play. That hurts them. Plus, 1:59:08.360 --> 1:59:10.920 here's all you need to know, Kirk Cousins, big game, 1:59:11.200 --> 1:59:14.080 prime time on the road. You know what's gonna happen. 1:59:14.640 --> 1:59:16.920 Seattle and Russell Wilson are gonna light them up. They're 1:59:16.920 --> 1:59:20.040 gonna win the game easily. I like Seattle all right, easily. 1:59:21.520 --> 1:59:25.800 Ten ten points? Wow, ten points Pete, Prisco, have a 1:59:25.880 --> 1:59:29.480 great week. We'll talk to you next week. Tony's down, 1:59:31.840 --> 1:59:34.640 I'm down. You're right. I am this Pete Frisco out 1:59:34.720 --> 1:59:37.280 of here. You guys all right, man, Tony, we'll talk 1:59:37.320 --> 1:59:40.080 to you soon. Looking forward to it. Have a good one, yes, 1:59:40.520 --> 1:59:44.160 thank you for listening and watching Jaguars Happy Hour on 1:59:44.240 --> 1:59:45.800 the Jaguars Digital Network