WEBVTT - Selects: How Mummies Work

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody. Did you ever want to know how mummies

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<v Speaker 1>work and how you mummify a person? Well you can

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<v Speaker 1>learn if you listen to this one from March fifteenth. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>look at that date, March fifteenth, twenty eleven. How mummies work.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's

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<v Speaker 3>Charles W Chuck Bryant. We're about to do this stuff

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<v Speaker 3>you should know. Thang, Yeah, do you like that? I did?

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Great? Now that I've switched out my foul smelling microphone cover?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is actually take two, but it things nasty.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not getting near it, but can you trually imagine Chuck? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and something's future facted on the mic cover, the Peak

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<v Speaker 3>Clipper cover.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, weird. You know, in real studios it changes out

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<v Speaker 1>of it now and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then these things have been running for at least a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty cents? All right, what's your chuck your sterling intro?

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of fifty cents, do you remember when we were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about fossils.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we said that every once in a while,

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<v Speaker 3>something happens so that a fossil naturally occurs, and that

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<v Speaker 3>it's desiccated, the skin is dried out. Yeah, that's a mummy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah who knew? I knew? Yeah, me too. Actually, when

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about that, I was like, we have to

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<v Speaker 3>do how mummies work, and here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of surprised, just when it's slipped under the

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<v Speaker 1>radar for so long. This yeah right up our alley.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I went and looked. I'm like, surely we do

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<v Speaker 3>have it and be fast.

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<v Speaker 1>It was gruesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's like stuff you should know died in

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<v Speaker 3>the wool. Yeah. Yeah, and you're about to hear why

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<v Speaker 3>dear listeners, because we're about to talk about all the

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<v Speaker 3>things that happened to a corpse after death, which we've

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<v Speaker 3>done before, but we need to go over again. Mummies

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<v Speaker 3>are cool, though, they are very cool. So, Chuck, let's

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<v Speaker 3>say that that you were stabbed in the stomach enough

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<v Speaker 3>time so that you could not move any longer. You

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't walk back home. It was out in the woods,

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<v Speaker 3>and the one person you're with, the very person who

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<v Speaker 3>stabbed you, left you there to die. You bleed out,

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<v Speaker 3>you're dead. Things start happening to your body, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>pretty quickly, up first is autolysis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that is uh, that's kind of gruesome. That's when

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<v Speaker 1>your organs that have digestive enzymes actually say, well, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we do, so we're going to start digesting

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<v Speaker 1>the organs.

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<v Speaker 3>Right and not like my stomach is eating itself because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hungry, Like my stomach is actually eating itself. It's

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<v Speaker 3>rupturing and oozing and it's it's being reduced to nothing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>while that's going on, and that actually I think if

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<v Speaker 3>I remember correctly, that kind of helps kickstart the process

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<v Speaker 3>of putrefaction, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, autolysis starts within a few hours after you're dead.

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<v Speaker 1>The body, the body knows.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you want like a really big overview of

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<v Speaker 3>this or an in depth look at what happens to

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<v Speaker 3>the body immediately after death, you should listen to our

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<v Speaker 3>Rigor Mortis podcast if you haven't already. Yeah, body farms.

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<v Speaker 3>I talked about it in there too.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, puture faction, you're right, is followed by or

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<v Speaker 1>follows autolysis. And that is when bacteria does its little

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<v Speaker 1>job and produces everything to a skeleton. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>depending where you are, this gonna happen in a few.

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<v Speaker 3>Months, right, depending on where you are now, We as

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<v Speaker 3>human beings are a subtropical species, right, Chuck, you know that, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>So we are designed, if you believe in that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of thing, to decomposed. Decompose most readily in a warm,

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<v Speaker 3>humid climate. That's where the bacteria that breaks down our

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<v Speaker 3>tissue lives or thrives moisture warmth. If you have cold, dry, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>things change a little bit. Like a refrigerator exactly. Which

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<v Speaker 3>is a good place to store a body if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to preserve it, or food if you want to

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<v Speaker 3>eat it. That's a good point to your body if

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<v Speaker 3>you want to eat it. For an in depth look

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<v Speaker 3>at that, you might want to listen to our cannibalism

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<v Speaker 3>podcast though. That's right, right, But let's say you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a refrigerator. Nature provides it for you on some occasions.

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<v Speaker 3>There's ut See the ice man.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, see the ice man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the iceman.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nineteen ninety one and the Italian Alps. This dude

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<v Speaker 1>is very well preserved natural mummy.

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<v Speaker 3>He's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Died and basically got buried in ice and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stayed that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think they have the impression that he fell

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<v Speaker 3>into a crevasse. Yeah, died, but it was during like

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<v Speaker 3>a blizzard maybe, and he was covered with snow and

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<v Speaker 3>ice that stuck around for millennia. But he's so well preserved.

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<v Speaker 3>You can see the tattoos on his skin and still.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well and we knew, Hey, they tattooed people fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred years ago exactly. Little window into what life

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<v Speaker 1>was like for Iceman.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah he was. He had I think a nice little

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<v Speaker 3>set of air and his bow and copper age European guy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he had a wallet sized photo of you

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<v Speaker 1>as well of me. Yeah, it's not possible. He was

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<v Speaker 1>from the future. That's my that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 3>He just blew my mind. Chuck good. So ice, as

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about in Fossils too, was a is a

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<v Speaker 3>very good preservant. But nothing does it. Oh, Pete Bogs too.

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<v Speaker 3>You remember I finally showed you that picture of Tolan Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't forget about Pete.

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<v Speaker 3>Again if you have not gone and looked up Tolon Man.

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<v Speaker 3>It's awesome, Like his whiskers are still there and he

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<v Speaker 3>lived a couple thousand years ago, right.

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<v Speaker 1>What's his name? Did they name him just Tolan Man?

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<v Speaker 3>Toland Man? I would have named him Pete Terrible. So

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<v Speaker 3>those two are pretty good. But the money, the natural

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<v Speaker 3>money preserve it is sand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason why sand is such a great preservative is

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<v Speaker 3>because it actually wicks away and absorbs and just removes

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<v Speaker 3>the any type of humidity in the body, which allows

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<v Speaker 3>the body to desiccate, which means that there is no

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<v Speaker 3>place for bacteria to live, which means the tissues, the

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<v Speaker 3>tissue remains intact. And that's all about mummy is Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a it's a corpse with its tissue intact.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and this kind of kickstarted the whole mummification artificial

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<v Speaker 1>mummification craze in Egypt because at first they buried bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't in caskets, they were you know, buried in

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<v Speaker 1>the hot sand. Yeah, and that preserved the body for

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<v Speaker 1>so long. They said, well, hey, if the body's preserved,

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<v Speaker 1>and that means the spirit's preserved. And this all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, we have new views on the afterlife and life.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So what they decided to do and this was

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<v Speaker 3>so what I guess what you've just said though, is

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<v Speaker 3>that the mummification, the whole concept of mummies that we

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<v Speaker 3>have that was so ingrained in the Egyptian culture. Happened

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<v Speaker 3>by accident, right, Yeah, So they started they figured this out.

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<v Speaker 3>So they start purposefully burying people in the sand with

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<v Speaker 3>the intent of them being mummified. Right. But the problem is,

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere along the way they begin to have horrible thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>of their dead relatives choked with sand. Right, So they

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<v Speaker 3>started to say, maybe we should put some sort of

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<v Speaker 3>barrier up in between the corpse and the sand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and that led to caskets, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, started with just like a wicker covering, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that eventually led to wooden boxes. But here's the rub. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now the body is not preserved. Now the body rots desicates. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>no it.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't, it's just a normal corpse. Now, yeah, becomes you've

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<v Speaker 3>put a barrier between the body and the preservant in

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<v Speaker 3>the form of a tomb.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's an Egyptian to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the Egyptians, being the very pious culture that they were,

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<v Speaker 3>and the very intuitive and smart culture that they were.

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<v Speaker 3>You should for that, you should go read did the

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<v Speaker 3>Greeks get all their ideas from the Africans? Good article?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you read them?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? We do that. Podcast man let's do that, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>They they decided that they needed to rectify their their

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<v Speaker 3>religious beliefs with their problem, their their need to preserve bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>And what did they do.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they said, maybe we can replicate this natural process

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<v Speaker 1>that we've discovered through man made artificial means and the

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<v Speaker 1>trial and error. Yeah, it's kind of like it's called embalming, Josh.

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<v Speaker 3>And they actually figured out, Chuck that like, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the one of the problems with the desiccation, the natural

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<v Speaker 3>desiccation in the desert was that the skin turned like

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<v Speaker 3>this crisp brown right, like you know, over baked chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>It's exactly what looks like.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, yeah, And with these embalming techniques that they eventually mastered,

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<v Speaker 3>they they could they could preserve a body better than

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<v Speaker 3>it could be preserved naturally, which is man conquering nature.

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<v Speaker 1>It's right, conquering death even well, come on, it's a cluss.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have huge success at first. They would embalm

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<v Speaker 1>the bodies mainly to keep it away from the elements,

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<v Speaker 1>wrap it in linen, soaked in resin, and they would

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<v Speaker 1>create nice little shapely forms that look kind of like people.

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<v Speaker 1>But that didn't really do a whole lot because the

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<v Speaker 1>bandages didn't really halt the composition. They basically figured out

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<v Speaker 1>that it happens from the inside out.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It took it took them a few centuries, if not millennia.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically wrapping it up, and it's just disintegrating within the

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<v Speaker 1>bandages at first.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But those bandages are important because they stick around

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much the whole time. Same with the resin right. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>so those two very early embalming techniques are mummification techniques

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<v Speaker 3>stuck around, But it was a big leap when they

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<v Speaker 3>figured out, oh wait a minute, this is going on

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<v Speaker 3>inside and so we need to start addressing.

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<v Speaker 1>That by removing organs.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And it's about here I think that we hit

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<v Speaker 3>the Middle Kingdom. And like the mummies that we think

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<v Speaker 3>of were produced in the from the eighth keent the

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<v Speaker 3>twentieth dynasties of the Middle Kingdom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was when the like the heyday of mummification, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, which was between fifteen seventy and ten seventy five BC. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the mummies that we think of, the ones that are

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<v Speaker 3>still around like really well preserved today, they were preserved

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<v Speaker 3>during this time, right, right, So what do you do

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<v Speaker 3>when you realize that everything bad is happening to a

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<v Speaker 3>corpse from the inside out. How do you address that?

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<v Speaker 1>Should we just walk through the process one by one,

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<v Speaker 1>the gruesome process? Yeah, okay. First thing you do is

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<v Speaker 1>you take it and it varies, you know, the different processes.

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<v Speaker 1>And within the processes, they had things that they would say,

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<v Speaker 1>sort like religious rights that they would go through as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very sacred processes.

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<v Speaker 1>But they would take the body generally to the Red

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<v Speaker 1>Land desert region. It's not near a whole lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>so people aren't grossed out, but it is near the

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<v Speaker 1>Nile River. They needed the Nile River to well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see that in sess second step one, step one. You

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<v Speaker 1>need the Nile for step one. They think they did

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<v Speaker 1>it an open tents obviously to get some good ventilation going.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first place they took the body was to

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<v Speaker 1>the eyebo, the place of purification.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was basically the Nile or the place where

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<v Speaker 3>they the place near the Nile where they rinsed the

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<v Speaker 3>body with you washed the body off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like a rebirth symbol of rebirth.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So the the the corpse was hastened or some

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<v Speaker 3>of the spirit was hastened in the afterlife, and we

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<v Speaker 3>should probably say here so it doesn't get too confusing.

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<v Speaker 3>There were three spirits that the Egyptians believed comprised a person, right,

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<v Speaker 3>the Ka, the Ba, and the ah.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah Yeah akh, Yeah, it's always tricky to pronounce that.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So I think with this purification process, the ka

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<v Speaker 3>or the or the Ba or the ah, we're moved

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<v Speaker 3>along to the to the next world. Yeah, but the

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<v Speaker 3>Ka that was the one that was inextricably linked with

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<v Speaker 3>the corpse, which became the whole reason for mummification. As

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<v Speaker 3>long as the corpse was preserved, the ca was preserved

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<v Speaker 3>and the afterlife could you know, the person could live

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<v Speaker 3>in the afterlife. But once the corpse died, the kaw

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<v Speaker 3>died and that second death was final, which is why

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<v Speaker 3>they wanted to preserve bodies in the first place. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's pretty cool. It's like the opposite of ashes to

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<v Speaker 3>ashes and dust to death, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So after they've washed the body and sort of reborne

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<v Speaker 1>it in the rivers of the Nile, they carried the

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<v Speaker 1>body to the per Niffer and that is the house

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<v Speaker 1>of mummification. And this is kind of where this is

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<v Speaker 1>the basement of the Fisher House. Basically, huh and six

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<v Speaker 1>feet under the fissures. Oh, yeah, this is in the basement.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where we go and the gang would get

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<v Speaker 1>to work. Yeah, they would lay it on a wooden table.

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<v Speaker 1>The body. They removed the brain by hammering a chisel

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<v Speaker 1>through the bone in the nose.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I knew that already before this articles Christian

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<v Speaker 3>Slaters and like he's in like one of the creep

0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:09.200
<v Speaker 3>shows or Amaze Amazing stories or tales from the crypto

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<v Speaker 3>movie pump up the volume. It might have been that,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think it was like a smaller vignette, like

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<v Speaker 3>a mini movie within the larger movie. It's called like

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<v Speaker 3>lat number nine or whatever and leaving the cube, think

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<v Speaker 3>it was. Now that's called Brotherhood of the Tiger. Now

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<v Speaker 3>I think they change. Yeah. Anyway, they there's a mummy

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<v Speaker 3>who's hell bent on taking other people's brains using these

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<v Speaker 3>hooks or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's exactly what they do. They make a

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<v Speaker 1>nose hole basically larger than the nostrils. They insert a

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<v Speaker 1>big hook, iron hook, and start scooping it out. Eventually

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<v Speaker 1>they go down to a spoon and eventually they just

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<v Speaker 1>rinse out the remaining bits of brain. And what's funny

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<v Speaker 1>is so hold on. They discard the brain because they thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why we have this stuff in our heads,

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<v Speaker 1>but we probably don't need it in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Afterlife, right, which is kind of unusual for the Egyptians

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<v Speaker 3>because they they preserved organ yeah, you know, but the brain.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's funny though, like I think what we've just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of meander passed that we should kind of meditate

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<v Speaker 3>on for a second, Chuck, is that they get to

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<v Speaker 3>a point where they fill the head with water. I imagine,

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<v Speaker 3>close the nose in the mouth and shake the head

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<v Speaker 3>around to slosh all this stuff out, and then lean

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<v Speaker 3>the head over and let all the last bits come out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's how I would do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if they did shots of that stuff, it

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<v Speaker 3>was like part of the ceremony.

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<v Speaker 1>I would draw the line there. Well, they probably just thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, they didn't even know what the brain was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's true. It's just waste.

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<v Speaker 1>So the brain's out, Josh. Then they take a blade

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<v Speaker 1>made from obsidian sacred stone, cut a little incision on

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<v Speaker 1>the left side and reach in and start pulling out

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<v Speaker 1>the organs that they can get to right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>preserving those, like you said, except for the kidneys because

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't think they were important.

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<v Speaker 3>Either, which they were, you know, I mean the kidneys

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<v Speaker 3>are important, but it's not like brain important.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean you need kidneys to live. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>they preserve the appending you need all of Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was probably the most holy right of the organs.

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<v Speaker 3>So they actually when they preserve these things, they would

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<v Speaker 3>they would wrap them in uh in resin strips of linen, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Basically they would mummify each organ, yeah, and then they

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<v Speaker 3>put them in and canopic jars. Basically it was like

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<v Speaker 3>here's your body, and then also here are your organs.

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<v Speaker 3>I forget you.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd leave the heart though, because they thought the heart

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, linked to the soul and the spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're kind of on the money there, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>So these organs take up space in our chests and

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<v Speaker 3>abdominal cavities, so they would actually stuff the body with

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<v Speaker 3>like incense and other materials as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, well, first they'd rinse it. Once they I forgot,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd take out the lungs to the abdomen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right right there.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get along the little side slit and then

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<v Speaker 1>they would rinse the chest cavity with palm wine and

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<v Speaker 1>then they would stuff it. They would actually basically yeah, straw,

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<v Speaker 1>Well I didn't say what actually you just said other materials.

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<v Speaker 1>I would use straw, maybe frankincense, a little murrhor yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just to complete the trilogy.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff you should know, stuff you should know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, straw, frankinsense and yeah, straw.

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<v Speaker 1>That that kept the body from like caving in on itself,

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<v Speaker 1>basically maintaining a little bit of shape.

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<v Speaker 3>And then is the key. This is the key to mummification.

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<v Speaker 3>And as a matter of fact, I'm just gonna say

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<v Speaker 3>it now. I found it on the internet. There is

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<v Speaker 3>a step by step, very easy to follow recipe on

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<v Speaker 3>I think Wiki how, which I don't normally go on,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's the only place I could find a recipe

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<v Speaker 3>for mummifying a chicken using the Egyptian method, and it

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<v Speaker 3>calls for natron, right, Yeah, that's the key. Natron is

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<v Speaker 3>this basically a compound that the Egyptians figured out they

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<v Speaker 3>could gather and combine from the Nile, which is basically

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<v Speaker 3>baking soda, sodium bicarbonate and salt table salt sodium chloride.

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<v Speaker 3>You mix the two together and it becomes this perfect preservant.

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<v Speaker 3>So they would put natron powder, which is like this

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<v Speaker 3>just accelerated the technique of mummification, like by light years. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>and they would cover the body with this stuff and

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<v Speaker 3>leave it and it would just completely dry the body out. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this took about forty days. They had to guard

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<v Speaker 1>the body while this was going on, obviously, because they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want vultures digging through the natron for what lies beneath.

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<v Speaker 1>After the forty days, they moved the body then to

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<v Speaker 1>the wabet, which is a house of purification. Yank all

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<v Speaker 1>that incense and the stuffing out, refill it with the

0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:26.040
<v Speaker 1>natron resin, soaked linen and other materials again whatever these

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<v Speaker 1>mysterious things are. Then they would sew all the incisions up,

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<v Speaker 1>cover the skin with resin, and then say, hey, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to wrap this puppy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this is where we get the idea for

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<v Speaker 3>the mummy, our modern idea of a mummy always wearing

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<v Speaker 3>link bandages.

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<v Speaker 1>That are always coming off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You can just see the eyes maybe like teeth

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<v Speaker 3>or something. Yeah, So this is where we're at. They're

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<v Speaker 3>at the bandaging procedure that thirty five or forty days,

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<v Speaker 3>while the nature and powder was doing its work wicking

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<v Speaker 3>away all of the basically acting as the desk KNT. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the family of the deceased was going around town going

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<v Speaker 3>do you have any linens we can have forever? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have some linens we can have?

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<v Speaker 1>And could you like your linens to spend eternity in

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<v Speaker 1>the eavans above.

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<v Speaker 3>With our dad. They collected about four thousand square feet

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<v Speaker 3>just top top of my head, that's about how much

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<v Speaker 3>they gathered sure of linen and would bring it to

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<v Speaker 3>the embalmers, and the embalmers would say, hey, we like

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<v Speaker 3>this piece. That piece is horrible. Are you really going

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<v Speaker 3>to bury your dad in this? And they would take

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<v Speaker 3>the best stuff and they would cut it into or

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<v Speaker 3>they would tear them into strips three to eight inches

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<v Speaker 3>wide of bandages and they would start the rapping, which

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<v Speaker 3>would take a little while. Right, Yeah, it takes a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Or two, I guess probably depending on how big the

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<v Speaker 1>body is. Common sense. Start with the hands and feet.

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<v Speaker 1>You wrap all. This is the initial under wrapping, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>You wrap everything individually, each little finger each it'll toe

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<v Speaker 1>everything and then once everything's wrapped individually, they do a

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<v Speaker 1>whole body wrap, applying new layers, coating the linen with

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<v Speaker 1>again the hot resin to keep everything in place. Uttering spell.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they would wrap amulets over different parts of the body.

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<v Speaker 1>Wrap it up in there with you, protect you in

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<v Speaker 1>the next world, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and then presto chaninjoh, you are a mummy. And

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<v Speaker 3>before we go further the process we've just described, this

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<v Speaker 3>really ornate, wonderful, lengthy process.

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<v Speaker 1>Where this is going.

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<v Speaker 3>You would think about it like, there's so many There

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<v Speaker 3>were a lot of Egyptians running around, and a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of them died on any given day, and there was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of work to be done. So this process

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<v Speaker 3>that we just described was for the people who had

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<v Speaker 3>lots of money. For some reason, the wealthy have always

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<v Speaker 3>been revered, right, and I've also gotten special treatment right. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>If you were just an ordinary schmo like me or Chuck,

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<v Speaker 3>you were going to get the budget package, which is

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<v Speaker 3>basically like instead of like carefully removing all of the organs,

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<v Speaker 3>preserving each one, they would inject oil like this oil

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<v Speaker 3>mixture into your cavities, let it sit for a few days.

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<v Speaker 1>It would stop up all your orifices first, sod leak out.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. So I don't know how they did that.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess with other materials.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So they would stop you up full of oil,

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<v Speaker 3>let you sit for a few days, and then unstop

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<v Speaker 3>your orifices and let all the oil drain out, and

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<v Speaker 3>it would carry the liquefied organs and tissue out with it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot easier, a lot faster.

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<v Speaker 1>So even this many thousands of years ago, you get

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<v Speaker 1>what you paid for exactly. That's pretty sad. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>always been a budget package. Or maybe that's a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing that it wasn't only just reserved. Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any money, you just can't get mummified.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>They thought, you know what, let's think of a cheaper

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<v Speaker 1>way to do this for you folks.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, let's just fill.

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<v Speaker 1>You up with the oil, stop up your orifices, and

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<v Speaker 1>give you a good shake.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, So you're prepared. You're all wrapped. However, they got

0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:16.360
<v Speaker 3>your organs out there out, you're bandaged, and you are

0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.879
<v Speaker 3>now about to be outfitted what's called a cartonage cage,

0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.800
<v Speaker 3>which is kind of like a breastplate. Some cool like

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<v Speaker 3>forearm armor, leg armor pretty much this thing that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to hold your body together for a while. And a

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<v Speaker 3>funerary mask, which is like the famous masks we think

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<v Speaker 3>of when we think of like King Tut, like it's

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<v Speaker 3>a death mask. And these were extremely important because they

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<v Speaker 3>directed the spirit the ka to the right body afterward,

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<v Speaker 3>So it was in a person's visage or possibly that

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<v Speaker 3>of a god, but the spirit would be in on

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<v Speaker 3>you know, what to look for.

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<v Speaker 1>They would know that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how they knew it was. Who.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, this guy is supposed to supposed to either look

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<v Speaker 1>like Josh or Anubis. Either way, I think that's him

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<v Speaker 1>right overay there, right, so let's grab him.

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<v Speaker 3>And speaking of a Nubis, you would be committed to

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<v Speaker 3>your tomb following a funeral procession where you were carried

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<v Speaker 3>in your suet, right, which so that's.

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<v Speaker 1>What you think of with King Tutt. That's the casket

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like a person, like the gold casket in

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<v Speaker 1>the shape of a human.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it's a suet. It's a suet that would be

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<v Speaker 3>carried to your tomb, and there would be a priest

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<v Speaker 3>dressed as the jackal god Anubis. There were there was

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<v Speaker 3>the ceremony of the mouth, which is pretty cool because

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<v Speaker 3>there was some sort of weird understanding. I guess that

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 3>you had died and now certain things had to be restored,

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<v Speaker 3>and the ceremony of the mouth was this passing over

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<v Speaker 3>of sacred objects to like the across the suet's face,

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<v Speaker 3>the casket's face, and it would restore your five cents. Yeah,

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:04.160
<v Speaker 3>because you need that exactly, so you're placed and this

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 3>is weird. Chuck, did you find this odd that your

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.160
<v Speaker 3>casket was placed leaned up against the wall.

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, It almost like I would do that while I

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.160
<v Speaker 1>was getting everything ready and then I would lay it down.

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<v Speaker 1>So it almost made me think that they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>forgot and they say, oh, well, we left that first

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 1>one leaning against the wall, so I guess that's the

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.439
<v Speaker 1>way we do it. Yeah, but that's not true. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they had a very good reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably because it was easier to just walk up right

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<v Speaker 3>out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, I would think they wanted to leave it upright,

0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:36.360
<v Speaker 1>but standing it upright they didn't have, like the perfectly

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 1>level floor probably wasn't too secure, so they just gave

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:41.200
<v Speaker 1>it a little lean.

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 3>Sure, little help, which is far less secure than just

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 3>laying it down on the floor. Yeah. Following that, you

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 3>are your furniture. Don't forget your canopic jar of organs

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 3>laid next to you, little food maybe, sure, your furniture

0:24:58.080 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 3>basically the stuff you're going to need in the next

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 3>life to be comfortable. Yeah, and you're set. Your tomb

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 3>is sealed up, and it's probably inscribed with something along

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 3>the lines of as for anybody who shall enter this

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:13.360
<v Speaker 3>tomb in his impurity, I shall wring his neck as

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 3>a bird's. It was a standard mummy curse. Yeah, a

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:18.160
<v Speaker 3>mummy curse on the tomb.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. People became in the nineteen twenties. Howard Carter dug

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:25.919
<v Speaker 1>up King Tut's tomb, and people were just crazy for

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>mummies at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Westerners are like, oh my gosh, this is so interesting.

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>This curse thing is so neat. Laurel and Hardy are

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>doing mummy curse movies and a microbiologist from Germany named

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Gothard Kramer or Cramer said, there may be something to

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 1>this curse thing because they bury people with food produces

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>mold spores, So when they unearth this tomb, all these

0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 1>mold spores are released into the air and it might

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>kill you. So it's not that there's something to the curse,

0:25:54.560 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 1>but it could lead people to tie the two together.

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:58.160
<v Speaker 1>If you unearth the tomb, then you die.

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Certainly, there's something weird about the Carter expedition who unearthed

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 3>King Tut's tomb in nineteen twenty two because eleven of

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:10.919
<v Speaker 3>the people who were involved, not necessarily present, but involved,

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 3>died within seven years. I think eleven people in a canary.

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 3>His canary died like right when they entered the tomb.

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 3>A cobra ate it. It's bad luck, it is, and

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 3>then it just went downhill from there. So there's all

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 3>sorts of explanations, but it's also oddly intriguing. And like

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 3>you said, egypt Mania gripped the West. Oh yeah, they

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 3>loved it all right. And there was actually unraveling parties

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:38.479
<v Speaker 3>where people get their hands on mummies and then like

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 3>unbandage them, see what's in there, which is like, that's

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 3>not what you do with a dead body. This desecration.

0:26:45.280 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's bad luck too, you know.

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 1>So that pretty much is the Egyptian mummy, and that's

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:25.959
<v Speaker 1>what we mainly think of. But they weren't the first

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:27.400
<v Speaker 1>people to do this kind of thing.

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:29.360
<v Speaker 3>No, and then isn't that interesting?

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:32.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? They the first the oldest mummies actually on the

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>planet are from northern Chile, the Chinchoro people. Yep, Chinchiro,

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:42.880
<v Speaker 1>let's go with Chinchoro. Okay, Uh this they started doing

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>this about two thousand years before the Egyptians, but they

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:48.880
<v Speaker 1>were not very much like uh, the Egyptians. They basically

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:53.119
<v Speaker 1>dismembered and disemboweled the body, put it back together again,

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>sewed it up, and then covered it with black mud.

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Well they put it back together with like straw and sticks,

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.719
<v Speaker 3>and that's what they had. It was like they make

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:04.640
<v Speaker 3>qupie dolls out of like these bodies.

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Basically, yeah, covered it with black mud and shaped it

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>into a human form. But they believe that this wasn't

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>necessarily done to preserve the body for the afterlife. Maybe

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>it was more for the people left on the planet

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Earth to mourn the death of their loved one keep them.

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Around a little longer, which is very sweet.

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Because they saw evidence of like retouching of the paint,

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>signs of wear and tear, so that you know, basically

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>they were kept in the households for a little while.

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 3>They think basically statues freaky freaky statues. Yeah, and that

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 3>was five thousand BC, which is two thousand years before

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 3>the Egyptians came onto the scene at all. It's right.

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 3>And the would you say the Cinchoro people, Yeah, they were,

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 3>which you said a lot.

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I went with Chinchoro, but someone will point

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>that out if I'm wrong.

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 3>I agreed. They're not the only ones in South America

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 3>who got into move cation either. The Incas very famously

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 3>did as well. They had a little habit of sacrificing

0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 3>children to their gods, and they culture relativism chuck, and

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 3>they would through this process like the child and the

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 3>child's family were just treated like royalty for this, like

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 3>it was a high honor to be chosen to be

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 3>sacrificed to the gods. And they would get the child

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 3>really wasted on this fermented corn concoction, take the child

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 3>up to the cave. Sometimes I think they would whack

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 3>the kid over the head, or other times they would

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 3>get the child so wasted that they just would leave

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 3>them there in the cold temperatures, exposed to the freezing temperatures,

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 3>and the child would die of exposure. I can't say

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 3>jerks about this, you can, but there's a very famous

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 3>mummy called the Maiden, who's a fifteen year old girl

0:29:56.760 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 3>and she was sacrificed as thanks to the gods for

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 3>a really good corn harvest by the Incas in Peru

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 3>five hundred years ago. Oh yeah, did you see that

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 3>picture I sent you?

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Yeah, was that her?

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 3>It's like looking at a girl who's sleeping, but she's

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 3>been dead for five hundred years. Yeah, like you if

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 3>you've been to South America's I know you have her

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 3>Central America. Like, she looks just like one of those

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 3>girls you might see down there, like a Central American

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:22.719
<v Speaker 3>indigenous person.

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>She's probably short.

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 3>Then she looks kind of short.

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that'd be funny if she was like six to two.

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 3>But then moving on up, there's also one and it

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 3>didn't make it into this article, but chuck, I've been

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 3>there myself. Juannawanto, Mexico has a mummy museum and they

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 3>have the world's smallest mummy. I think it might have

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 3>been a fetus really, but they were all naturally mummified,

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 3>to the great surprise of the nineteenth century townspeople who

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 3>had to move a graveyard and found like, okay, there's

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 3>a lot of mummies.

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>How big was it?

0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 3>It was very small. You known object coffee up, coffee

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 3>cup okay, sandered coffee cups on it, gotcha. But then

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 3>there's like people, they're still wearing their suits, and it's

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:12.479
<v Speaker 3>really amazing. You walk into this little Mexican building and

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 3>there's just dead people everywhere, just behind this glass. It's

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.959
<v Speaker 3>very neat. If you ever go to Guanawanto, Mexico, you

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 3>have to go to the mummy museum.

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I think I should. Yeah, Lady Chang China. Chinese were

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>they were lousy with mummies. Yeah, they love to mommify people.

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>She was an aristocrat from about two thousand years ago,

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and she is believed to be about the best preserved

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>ancient mummy so far. Did you see her picture? Yeah,

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>with their tongue sticking out pretty well mummified, yeah, and

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>her hair still. Yeah, she was. They haven't studied her

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot, the Chinese haven't, so they don't know

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>exactly how she was prepared, but they do think that

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 1>mercury and the embalming fluid might have had something.

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 2>To do with it.

0:31:55.600 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would imagine that will do it. Mercury, yeah, sure,

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 3>and also in China, mummies have kind of rewritten history

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 3>a little bit. Some very very ancient mummies from one

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 3>thousand BC. Before one thousand BC, they found some people

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 3>of Indo Iranian descent. They're they linked them to like

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 3>basically Mesopotamia through tattoos and like other implements that they had.

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>In the shape of their face, the way they looked.

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Yep, and they figured out, like, wait a minute, these

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 3>people were like Indo European traders.

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>What are they doing here?

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 3>And they just made their way to settle right in

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 3>the deserts of China before the Han dynasty ever showed up. Yeah,

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 3>so that kind of changed things a little bit.

0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure if we talk about mummies, we got to

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>talk about the more modern day mummies because of the

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>big interest in mummification thanks to Tut being found was

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>the big one. Yeah, that's right around the time Lenin

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.719
<v Speaker 1>died Russia and they said, you know what, let's preserve

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>linen and display in the Kremlin. So that's exactly what

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>they did, and we do not know exactly how because

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>it's an ancient Russian secret. I don't know about ancient,

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>but it's a Russian secret, and they it's ongoing because

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>they continue to immerse him in a preservative bath every

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>now and then.

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 3>Andy's wears a waterproof suit.

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 1>That's right. And if you've ever seen pictures of Lenin

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 1>or eva perone, did they look pretty lifelike? Yeah, but

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>hers is way cool. They basically replaced all the fluids

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>in her body with wax, right, which would be a

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>very modern take on the ancient practice.

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 3>There's also incorruptible corpses of the Catholic Faith. It's basically

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 3>a person who is so pure on earth that their

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 3>body just didn't didn't rot. And there's example of those.

0:33:56.440 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 3>There's one he's like a prince, he's like a child prints.

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 3>I think he died in like he died more than

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:08.240
<v Speaker 3>a thousand years ago, or about it a thousand years ago,

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 3>and his body's totally preserved and there's no evidence that

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 3>he was embalmed or anything like that. What they don't

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 3>understand that there are some bodies out there that just

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 3>defy logic. I wrote an article and you should read

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 3>It's a miracle. How can a courpse be incorruptible?

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.240
<v Speaker 1>We need to keep in track of these awesome ideas. Correct,

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 1>Where's our person, where's our boy? Charlie or no, our

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>boy Friday, Okay, Charlie, where I got that? And then Josh,

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>finally we have. In the nineteen seventies, some scientists discovered

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>something called plastinization, and that is when all of the

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>water and lipids and the body cells are replaced with

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>polymers and you basically become like plastic, very flexible and durable.

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 1>You don't decompose and you don't stink too bad. And

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:03.240
<v Speaker 1>that is used to preserve bodies, mainly for anatomical research

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 1>at this point.

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Or for bodies world or bodies the exhibitive.

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>You've been, No, I've never been, but that's how they

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>do it.

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 3>It is really something. I mean, you're right there up

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 3>on this corpse missing its skin and like it is

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 3>a dead person, and it's really interesting. There's one, the

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 3>one that I went to in Atlanta. It's two eyeballs

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 3>and they're connected to the spinal cord which is going

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 3>down and then the coming off the spinal cord are

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 3>the major nerves of the central nervous system and that's it,

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:37.360
<v Speaker 3>and it's just laid out perfectly, really kind of surprising.

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm shocked that I haven't been to that yet.

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty cool. It's definitely worth going to.

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I did the dialogue in the dark thing.

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 3>I have not been there. That's next door. Yeah, that

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 3>was that kid. You know.

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I was a little disappointed. Yeah, not in the exhibit itself,

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 1>but the way they do it. I think it could

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.319
<v Speaker 1>have been like really awesome. But the way they do it,

0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't as awesome as it could have been. Just

0:35:59.440 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 1>my take.

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 3>Me and her sister went and she said they would

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 3>have liked it. But there was this very loud, drunk

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 3>woman who kept like falling into people what they wanted

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 3>to kill.

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Nothing you can do about that, you know, in the

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>dark weather, you could just like kick her in the

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:11.399
<v Speaker 1>shin and run away.

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Uh huh.

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 1>We should mention Bob Doctor Bob Bryer real quick though.

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>He is an Egyptologist who in nineteen ninety four said,

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I want to try and replicate the

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Egyptian technique and he did it. Chicken, Yeah, with a chicken,

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and he did it. It was pretty successful at the University

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:31.919
<v Speaker 1>of Maryland School of Medicine. And one of the things

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>he learned from doing this that the the way the

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>body ends up looking as a result of the mummification process,

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 1>not the fact. Yeah, that it's been in the ground

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 1>for thousands and thousands.

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Like the shriveled, wrinkled look. Yeah. Yeah, So that's one

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 3>thing I learned. That's a big thing to learn, though,

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:51.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, think about it. That's Egyptology hasn't really advanced

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 3>much in the last fifty years, has it not that

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Heraldo didn't find squat, No he didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that wasn't Heraldo. Heraldo looks for pones.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's right. I watched that one. That was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a youngster and I was so excited and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but so disappointed when it was just a total disaster. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>well it's it for mummies, right, chuck you anymore? I'm

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Are you mummied out? Yep? All right. If you

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<v Speaker 3>want to learn more about mummies, check out m M

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<v Speaker 3>M I E S in the handy search bar at

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<v Speaker 3>howstuff works dot com. You can learn how to mummify

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<v Speaker 3>a chicken on wiki how and what else? I think

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<v Speaker 3>there might be a website for the mummies of wanna

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<v Speaker 3>want to that's I think g u A n A

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<v Speaker 3>j u A t oh maybe sounds good to me?

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<v Speaker 1>Does it, you know, I think, uh, Matt and Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>from Cool Stuff on the Planet did a thing on

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<v Speaker 1>the Egyptian Mummy. Oh yeah, or not Egyptian Mummy museumm

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<v Speaker 1>Wana Wanta Mummy musum.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Cool Stuff on the Planet check it out. That

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<v Speaker 3>is definitely worth watching as well. It's worth watching anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said handy search bar somewhere in there, which

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<v Speaker 3>means I guess time for a listener.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Hi, Chuck and Josh and Jerry. My name is Maddie.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twelve years old. I love your podcast. I wait

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<v Speaker 1>all day at school to get home so I can

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<v Speaker 1>check for new podcasts. They always help me fall asleep,

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<v Speaker 1>but not because they're boring, but because it gets my

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<v Speaker 1>brain thinking and the brain gets tired.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool, Mary, So it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering if you give a shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>my best bud, Casey. Casey has a tumor in his

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<v Speaker 1>leg and is in a wheelchair. He tells me he

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<v Speaker 1>is very miserable, but at least he gets to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to me talk about you guys and fun fact. He

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<v Speaker 1>also has a pet rooster named Lewis Sweet, and Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>is house trained so he just runs around the house.

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<v Speaker 3>That is awesome house strained chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>So please give Louis I'm sorry Casey a shout and

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<v Speaker 1>Louis while we're out. It sure make him feel better.

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<v Speaker 1>It would make his day or even his year. And

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<v Speaker 1>tell me which podcast you're going to put it on,

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<v Speaker 1>because I am just twelve and some of them are inappropriate.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh was this one appropriate? I don't know, Probably not,

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<v Speaker 3>the shaking the brain part out. We'll figure it out, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>We'll tell them to just listen to the listener mail

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<v Speaker 3>and let it parents listen to the rest.

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<v Speaker 1>And also a suggestion the infamous story of that French

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<v Speaker 1>queen who said let the meat cake. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>her name, that's uh Marie Antwin, Marie Antoinette. That was

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<v Speaker 1>Kirsten Dunst. And remember I do not have Facebook, so

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<v Speaker 1>please answer me by email, she says.

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<v Speaker 3>And then oh is it she? Is it d d

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<v Speaker 3>or tt It's d d oh okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then her signature is potato in a mushroom for Maggie.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what that means to all the

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<v Speaker 1>kids are saying it these day. Really, yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>potato and a mushroom everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>You just said, Maggie, it's Maddie, right, Maddie. Okay, Maddie,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks for that email. Maddie. Did we give a shout

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<v Speaker 3>out to Lewis and Casey?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Casey, we hope you're feeling better, but I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>to hear about that, and I hope you're up and

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<v Speaker 1>around before.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it.

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<v Speaker 3>Take care of Lewis. Yes, if you're an egyptologist and

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<v Speaker 3>you have some good mummy stories, we want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, if you have any good mummy story,

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<v Speaker 3>we want to hear it, wrap it up in an

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