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Speaker 1: All right, hit that horn, Babe's what's up everybody?

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast. This is our

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Speaker 2: AFC style preseason edition. I am your host, Chris Raybon,

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Speaker 2: joined as always by my dude, Sean Kerner.

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Speaker 1: Sean, what's going on? What's up?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Uh, pretty good, all things considered. Fun times the

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Sean and I and some friends who went

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Speaker 1: But oh yeah, yeah that was the whole Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, good times, yeah, good times times and smoke some cigars.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, let's get into the AFC South though.

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Speaker 2: What we're doing with these podcasts is kind of going

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Speaker 2: through every fantasy relevant player on each of the teams

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Speaker 2: in each division. So we've got the AFC and NFC

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Speaker 2: West episodes out already, so check those out if you haven't,

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Speaker 2: But let's jump right into the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 1: Start with Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Maddy Ice going from Atlanta

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Speaker 2: to the Indianapolis Colts and are replacing Wentz.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he should be a slight upgrade over you know,

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Speaker 3: So I think this is a slight downgrade in terms

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Woods has some size and I think long term

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor obviously had a monster year. He's going first overall.

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Speaker 1: So where are you where you putting him at?

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Speaker 3: So he's obviously the number one running back, and my

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Speaker 3: but you know, yeah, so he he rushed three hundred

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Speaker 3: and he's sort of the I knew Derrick Henry where

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Speaker 3: he's the most durable back as well. Apparently he's never

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Speaker 3: going to be prone to injury at some point. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we know, he's a durable back, and knock on wood,

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Speaker 3: he's still the number one back by far. I think

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Speaker 3: like Jonathan Taylor more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the best value on this offense in

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Speaker 2: Nim Hines he's currently going as the RB forty eight

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Speaker 2: it's clear that that Heines is going to be a

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Speaker 2: the way the dynamics were. Naim still made it impact

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Speaker 2: you look at his years here, it's been like every

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Speaker 2: And then you know this is from the athletic Zach

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Speaker 2: have designs on increasing Hines's role without taking away too

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Speaker 2: many of Taylor's carries, which tells me that they are

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Speaker 2: if I was going to be in a fantasy league,

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Speaker 2: I think I'd picked Naim this year. So you know

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Speaker 2: And if you look at his first of all, he's

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Speaker 2: if you look at his touches and scrimmage yards or

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Speaker 2: just let's look at his touches year one, one hundred

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Speaker 2: think he's on track for another like one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty plus touches you know, quote nine ten a game

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Speaker 2: as opposed to the you know, six or seven he

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Speaker 2: just especially when the Coats kind of say they know

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Speaker 2: he's been kind of up and then they give him

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Speaker 2: of drops down again. I think that's a clear stigmal

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Speaker 2: that he's going to kind of jump back.

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Speaker 1: Up this year. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I like that, And I think if Frank Wright

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Speaker 3: probably should have said, you know, if you're in a

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Speaker 3: if Jonathan Taylor plays all seventeen games, heines should give

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Speaker 3: if Jonathan Taylor were to ever miss time, which that

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Speaker 3: I would say, like low end RB two potential. He's

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Speaker 3: probably never going to be a true war horse back,

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Speaker 3: touches in this offense behind this offensive line, so he

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Speaker 3: has injury upside as well as well as being playable

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Speaker 3: when Jonathan Taylor is healthy. So I do like his

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Speaker 3: sort of four sailing combo that you can get, like

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Speaker 3: what's his ADP right now, like RB forty eight or

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Speaker 3: I mean he's like a dollar store version in James White.

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Speaker 3: But you know what you're gonna get with him, which

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Speaker 3: I love that call.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean he's absolutely scoring more Fantasy points than

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Speaker 2: James I would be.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, no, no, I'm talking about like good James White,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like this is I mean, we saw it last

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Speaker 2: kind of kind of transferred some of those concepts to

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Speaker 2: the Hines. But I mean this, this offense is kind

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Speaker 2: Pierce one of the tight ends, it's probably gonna be

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Speaker 2: Nim Hines. I think there's a chance he could catch

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Speaker 2: ninety eighty ninety balls this year. You know, his high

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Speaker 2: has been sixty three, but I wouldn't be surprised to

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Speaker 2: has like that Danny Woodhead just kind of explosion, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he has that potential.

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Speaker 2: Like I think I'm all in a night hind. That's

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Speaker 2: that's my sleeper. That's my guy for the codes. Anybody

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Speaker 2: for you sleeper bust anything like that where we jump

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Speaker 3: I think for in terms of sleeper, I would just

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Speaker 3: say mo Alie Cox just because of his touch on upside,

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Speaker 3: but or Michael Pittman. Honestly, if you can get Michael

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Speaker 3: Pittman at white receiver for twenty three, I would consider

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Speaker 3: that a sleeper, especially if you get him as you know,

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Speaker 3: your wide receiver three in that range. But yeah, this offense,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Jonathan Taylor, you know, SAPs so much value

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Speaker 3: in this offense. He's he's probably the guy to take.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I would say Moi Cox is probably the

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Speaker 1: I can't believe you just said.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying like it's Michael Pittman. It's Michael Pittman. We're

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Speaker 3: talking about, Like, yeah, I mean you could just say

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Speaker 3: nowhere like no one, no one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's either Hines Pittman. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: could outplay Adp obviously, that's every single first player is

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they're all They're all. Yis Campbell. Yeah, cheap

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Speaker 1: for a reason.

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Speaker 2: Ryan, Yeah, welly, I mean I did just too many

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's move on from Yes, let's do that.

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Speaker 2: Let's do that, Ryan Sannehill for the tight ends, let's

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Speaker 2: start there. Let me say this, obviously not great losing

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Speaker 1: Brown.

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Speaker 2: Just to put some numbers behind it. The last two

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Speaker 2: Not great yardage, but you know, still solid. Without Brown,

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Speaker 2: six games, two hundred and sixteen passing yards per game,

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Speaker 2: so he drops off fourteen per game on that just

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Speaker 2: zero point eight passing touchdowns per game, so he drops

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Speaker 2: Lineup, and his yards per attempt drops from seven point

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Speaker 2: that is not idea.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know they got trey Lon Burks, who can do

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Speaker 1: And you also got Robert Woods here.

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Speaker 1: And then but then he goes to Buffalo in.

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Speaker 1: But any any thoughts on him.

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Speaker 3: Uh no, you already mentioned. I think just the loss

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, the past few seasons, it's been.

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Speaker 3: So tough to project Brian Tannehill, like my model always

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Speaker 1: I've been like asking what do I do?

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Speaker 3: So you know, I've had to artificially add a few

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Speaker 3: just AJ Brown's insane efficiency and you know, skills after

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Speaker 3: he's banked on rushing touchdowns the past couple of seasons. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: some point. So yeah, I'm my model's been down on

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00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 3: Tannehill the past couple of seasons, but I think it'll

438
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 3: finally catch up to him now this season. So yeah,

439
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 3: I'm off him, even though he is pretty cheap round

440
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 3: like the QB twenty one range, but just his upside

441
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 3: is so limited now without AJ Brown and Trailon Burks

442
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 3: is no slam dunk. So if he doesn't hit as

443
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: a rookie, you know, Tannehill's screwed. So yeah, I'm I'm

444
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 3: off on Tannehill.

445
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,719
Speaker 2: All right, what do you think of Let's start with Burkes.

446
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 2: He's actually going ahead of Woods wide receiver thirty three,

447
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 2: which is going wide receiver forty one.

448
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Burks and what he can

449
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: do in year one?

450
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he this landing spot was ideal for his

451
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 3: for his rookie value anyway. I mean, they essentially drafted

452
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 3: him to replace AJ Brown. Whether he can do that

453
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 3: or not, like whether he can be eighty percent of

454
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,239
Speaker 3: AJ Brown remains to be seen. But that's really give

455
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: him a high floor because they're gonna gi him every chance.

456
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 3: He was sort of a polarizing prospect where he yeah,

457
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 3: he has a high ceiling, but he does have a

458
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 3: low floor entering year one, and it might take him

459
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: a couple of years really hit his stride, but he's

460
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 3: gonna be given every single chance possible to hit as

461
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: a rookie. So that's why his ADP you know, at

462
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 3: wide receiver thirty nine, it certainly makes sense, but he.

463
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: Does have a low floor. He's far from a slam dunk.

464
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 3: And you know Aj Brown, he's been able to produce

465
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 3: off of a very low volume compared to other wide

466
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 3: receiver ones and wide receiver two. So Brooks is gonna

467
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 3: have to be insanely efficient to come close to that.

468
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 3: So wide receiver thirty nine, I'm probably not buying in

469
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 3: that oh thirty Oh jesus. Yeah, So it's just a

470
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 3: bit too rich for my blood. Like, like I said,

471
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: like the lighting spot certainly means that he should be

472
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 3: way higher than if he landed basically anywhere else. But

473
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 3: I just think he has a more of a chance

474
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: to bust than not, so I'm probably gonna pass on him.

475
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 3: I think Robert Woods might be the better just because

476
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: you can get him cheaper, but both guys have just

477
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 3: limited upside and a run first offense.

478
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: Anyway, Yeah, I think Woods.

479
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: The fact that Woods is going after Burks, you know,

480
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: as long as we get word that he's ready to

481
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: go by you know, before the season, hopefully sometime in

482
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 2: the preseason, since he is being integrated into a new offense,

483
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: new team, new quarterback, new coaching staff, all that stuff.

484
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: But you know, Robert Woods has been just so consistent.

485
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 2: You know these last four or five years, so you know,

486
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: he's the guy that I would check, you know, check for.

487
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, it's all about help.

488
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: So that's just something we have to monitor. But as

489
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: it stands right now, if I'm taking a shot, if

490
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: I'm drafted now, I still think Woods is a value

491
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: because there's been no indication that he won't be ready

492
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: before the season. So wide receiver forty one, I'm willing

493
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: to do that. I think he could be the number

494
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: one even if Burks. You know, Burks is playing every down.

495
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: I know Burks can play, and that he played in

496
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: the slot two thirds of the time and it's at

497
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: Arkansas last season, so he'll be on the field too.

498
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: But I still think Woods could still be the number

499
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: one even with Burke playing every down.

500
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: YEP. Agree.

501
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 3: And you know he's coming from an offense where multiple

502
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 3: pass catchers can have fantasy relevance. Unfortunately, this offense, maybe one,

503
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 3: maybe two can have value a week. So he's going

504
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: to be a little bit more inconsistent in this offense.

505
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: But his ADP reflects that. I mean, he's outside of

506
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 3: the top forty now, so I think just out of

507
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: these two he's probably the safer bet if he's healthy

508
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 3: by week one.

509
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know he kind of alluded to it,

510
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 2: probably not going to support three wide receivers. I think

511
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: rookie Kyle Phillips might actually win that slot job and

512
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: kind of think over that Chester Rogers role. I know

513
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: some people kind of project Westbrook Akina to be that starter.

514
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 1: I don't see it.

515
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: I think they'd like Phillips to get that job, but

516
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: I doubt he's going to be Fantasy relevant. So we

517
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: can just talk about any Is there any way Austin

518
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: Hooper kind of find his way into value. He's he's

519
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: probably gonna get that Ferksture role. He doesn't really block

520
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 2: a lot, but ferks Are only had two point three

521
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: catches per game last year, so it might not matter.

522
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

523
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 3: No, I've I've been off Hooper ever since he left

524
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: the Falcons, And you know, he's leaving a Brown system

525
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: that like to rotate two to three tight ends pretty

526
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: heavily to a Titans offense that likes to rotate two

527
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: to three Titans pretty heavily. I don't think he really

528
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: has the athleticism to really make it work with you know,

529
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 3: the lack of targets needed to be in the tight

530
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 3: end one two discussion. So yeah, this is a mess.

531
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: I don't really like Hooper anymore. I was all about him,

532
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 3: all about him when he was on the Falcons, but

533
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 3: ever since then, just the situations haven't been ideal for

534
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 3: his skill set. So I'm off him and Swam and

535
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 3: whoever the hell else they throw out there chicks them

536
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: O kunk Will Yeah. He, I mean he has he

537
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: has some upside, but again, rookie tight ends, like unless

538
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: they're in the first couple rounds, you know, they don't

539
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 3: usually don't do much.

540
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: As a rookie.

541
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: Derek Henry's going as the RB two in half PPR

542
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: at Leath. Are you comfortable with that? Would you still

543
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: rather have McCaffrey, Paul Man. I think I'd probably still

544
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: lean McCaffrey at this point. I have Henry as my

545
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: RB four just based on volume alone. I remember last

546
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: year I was kind of pondering when we're going to

547
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: really start to project the decline for him, and I

548
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: think the fact that he did miss what was it

549
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: like eight to nine games last year. That's eight to

550
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: nine games that he wasn't taking, you know, thirty hits

551
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: a game, So I think that that helps him this season,

552
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: where you know, I think we're going to get one

553
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: more good volume season out of Henry and his efficiency

554
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: will probably start to dip. We already saw that last year.

555
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: His four point three yards per carry were the lowest

556
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: since twenty seventeen, So you know, his efficiency metrics are

557
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 3: starting to decline in my model. But he's still going

558
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 3: to see a ton of volume, especially after they got

559
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: rid of AJ Brown. But defense is they're going to

560
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 3: be stacking the box a lot more, probably going to

561
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 3: be a little bit easier to slow him down. But

562
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: just based on volume alone, I think he's a top

563
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: four back.

564
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

565
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you mentioned the decline and age

566
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: twenty seven is usually when you see a decline, and

567
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: you know, nine hundred and thirty seven yards or is

568
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: lowest since twenty seventeen, obviously due to injury. But like,

569
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: if he does stay healthy, I mean, the upside is

570
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: insane because the average twenty seven point four carries per

571
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: game last year a career high, career high by three

572
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: point eight carries per game.

573
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: I should so like, yeah, I don't mind him, Like

574
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm not.

575
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: Going to argue if somebody takes some second because you

576
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: can't really predict injuries, but just from a volume standpoint,

577
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: from a number standpoint, you know, age twenty seven is

578
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: when these running bucks really start to decline, and we

579
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: saw that and it was because of injuries, so we

580
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 2: could see it again. But they're there's still a top

581
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 2: player in fantasy upside like overall, yeah and upside.

582
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 3: And his receiving usage went up a little bit, which

583
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: is nice. He basically matched his receiving output every year

584
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: and half the games, so he was essentially doubling his

585
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: receiving output. So that would be one way if he's

586
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 3: just a little bit less efficient, if he's getting more

587
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: you know, receptions per game, that'll help offset that quite

588
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 3: a bit.

589
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: Do you any interest in the rookie Hassan Haskins as

590
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: a handcuff? I always when I'm drafting a running back

591
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: that high, I always like the ones that have like

592
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: the free handcuff that I could just take in the

593
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: last round and not have to worry about it. Do

594
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: you think because Haskins is kind of a more of

595
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: a one for one replacement for Henry. He's a bigger guy,

596
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: kind of North South guy, and they they didn't bring

597
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: back McNichols, who they've been using. Is kind of that

598
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: change of pace. I think Hilli or Dantrell Hilliard is

599
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 2: still on the roster. He played pretty well last year.

600
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: But I mean, do you think if Henry does go down,

601
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: is Haskins kind of sliding into that Henry role or

602
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: at least a role like like the Deontay Foreman role,

603
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: which is feel fairly valuable last year.

604
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

605
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean they drafted him essentially to be

606
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: a Derrick Henry backup. He's six foot two to twenty eight,

607
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: big power back out of Michigan. He's going to be,

608
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: you know, Deonta Foreman last year, where he's only going

609
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: to have value if Derek Henry miss his time. But

610
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: if Derek Henry's out, you know, he should see fifteen

611
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: plus carriers a game in that role. Won't be as

612
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: good as Derek Henry, of course, but and you know,

613
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: I've never been a fan of taking Derrick Henry's backup

614
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: for obvious reasons. But last year he proved, unfortunately that

615
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 3: he is a human being and he is susceptible to injury.

616
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: So now now we can kind of consider taking Derrick

617
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: Henry's back up, especially his ADP's what in the seventy

618
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: sixty five seventy range, So I didn't even write it down.

619
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's gonna be one of

620
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: seven eighty seven.

621
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got to be one of the cheapest one

622
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: for one handcuffs in football. So yeah, if you have Henry,

623
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: I would certainly, you know, stash Haskins in a deeper

624
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 3: format because yeah, if Henry goes down, he's probably gonna

625
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: be able.

626
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: To be in the RB three flex territory.

627
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we can and you can kind of monitor that,

628
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: you know, in camp. But you know, I mean, if

629
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: if we start getting reports like oh, he's not picking

630
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: up the offense, he's behind Hilliard, then it's like okay, yeah,

631
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: then we're I mean, running backs usually come in and

632
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: play right away, you know, like it there's nothing really

633
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 2: holding a back except pass prone. We don't need him

634
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: to really do anything in the past game right over

635
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: for Henry.

636
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, all right, any sleeper is a

637
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: bust here before you jump, I just think.

638
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, sleeper would be just Robert Woods because he's the

639
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: cheaper of the two wide receivers that we want to target,

640
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: and the bus just trailing Burke's unfortunately. You know, I

641
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: think he has a ton of upside, but his ADP,

642
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: if it's wide receiver thirty three right now, that's just

643
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 3: a bit too high. You kind of need him to

644
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: hit at the ADP. And I just think he has

645
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: a lower floor than people realize. So I'd say the

646
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: sleepers Woods buses Burks.

647
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like.

648
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: Woods a sleeper up I mean, bust is like kind

649
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: of the whole offense. Yeah, that's not Henry if not.

650
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't want to call Burke's a

651
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: potential bust.

652
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate to say that. No, well, just because.

653
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: We don't know what's to deal with would So I'll

654
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: stay Woods is the sleeper, you know. And if if

655
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: he is the sleeper, then book Burke's is going a

656
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: little bit too high. But if not, you know, then

657
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: then then it changes. All right, let's go to Jacksonville.

658
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: What did you think of Trevor Lawrence's rookie year. Obviously

659
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: he was bottom five and pretty much every passing metric,

660
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: But do you think that was kind of an indication

661
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: of his of his skills in future or just like

662
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: all the kind of state of flux that the Jack

663
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: war last year.

664
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: I think twenty twenty two will be the year we

665
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 3: kind of find out what the problem was last year.

666
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: I mean, we bag on urban Meyer every week last year, rightfully, so,

667
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: but I would always kind of mention, you know, Trevor

668
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: Lawrence has looked like shit, Like, let's be real, so

669
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: you know, I think the regime change will only help.

670
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: It can only help at this point, so we'll find out.

671
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: But you know, he was really bad within the system

672
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: last year. I think Doug Peterson should help. I mean,

673
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: he was able to make Carson Wentz look like an

674
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 3: MVP for at least the season. So let's see what

675
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: to do with Lawrence. I think Lawrence just we have

676
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: to bet on upside and talent with him. He went

677
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: number one overall last year for a reason. I'm not

678
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 3: willing to give up on him quite yet. So you know,

679
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: he's in the QB twenty range. I think he is

680
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: just kind of worth, you know, gambling on his upside

681
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: and the regime change can only help. But he doesn't have,

682
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: you know, the talent around him. I think to have

683
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: a true breakout season. The Jaguars seem to think Christian

684
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: Kirk is, you know, a top fifteen wide receiver in

685
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: the league. That is unfortunately not the case. So I

686
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 3: just think give him the talent around this year. He

687
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: can only do so much. But last year it was

688
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: really bad, and this year I guess we'll find out

689
00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: if how.

690
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: Much of it was really him versus Irvin Meyer. Yeah,

691
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: I think he could.

692
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: You know, if you're in a two quarterback week, I

693
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: think he could out kick you beat twenty one. This year,

694
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: I think the overall talent at receiver is better because

695
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: you have Kirk, you have Jones, yeah, both Joneses, Marvin

696
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: and Za. We still have Treadwell who played well. You

697
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: still have Channault. You know, we'll see what happens with him.

698
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: Maybe he gets traded. But that's a deep receiving corps.

699
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: You know, there's no star, but it's at least deep.

700
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: And last year I think there was a couple of problems.

701
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: One was that, yeah, he suffered the second most drops

702
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: in the league, and receivers were running the wrong routes.

703
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: They weren't on the same page, which could still be

704
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: an issue obviously this year. But I think there's nowhere

705
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: to go but up in terms of supporting cast at

706
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: tight end. You know, Evan Ingram combined with Dan Arnold,

707
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: I think gives you a better kind of receiving duo

708
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: no matter who's out there running routes etn being back

709
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: gives him some you know, high percentage throws that he

710
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: can make and potentially an explosive player that could do

711
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: the work for him after the catch.

712
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: So I do think he's going to be a lot better.

713
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: Obviously, a lot of you know, there were things, there

714
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: were positives in his film. I think he had his

715
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: best game the last game of the season against the Colt,

716
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 2: So that's the positive thing. He made some really impressive throws,

717
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: but he also made some bad throws and some bad decisions.

718
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 3: So in sneaky rushing upside when he won, ye, Yeah,

719
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to run, but when he does, he

720
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: can be sneaky. And I think just if they get

721
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: him moving around a lot more, it's going to help

722
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 3: him as a thrower, and you know, rushing production could

723
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: go up as well. And that's that's that's really what

724
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: we're looking for in year two is sort of just

725
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: packaging it all together, and he obviously he has the

726
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: upside to do it.

727
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're just in a redraft, I think you

728
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: leave him on the wire. I mean, there's no real

729
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: streaming appears in week one at Washington, they're implied for

730
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: twenty point three points, and then he faces indian Apples,

731
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 2: which maybe that could be good, but because they always

732
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: beat I think it's seven in a row. Now they

733
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: beat Indianapolis at home, but and Affles should have a

734
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: pretty solid defense. So yeah, you know, that would just

735
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,479
Speaker 2: be all kind of narrative beast.

736
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: So you mentioned you you.

737
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: Know, they they're kind of paying Kirk like a top

738
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: fifteen wide receiver. He's gone is the wide receiver forty

739
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: one in Fantasy pros half PPR ADP. I've seen that

740
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: a little higher at some places, but I've seen it

741
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: in the forties at other places.

742
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: Well, what do you think of Kirk for this year?

743
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he might not be a true Alpha

744
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 3: number one receiver, but the Jaggers are certainly treating him

745
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 3: like one. So that's that's good news for fantasy. You know,

746
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: they're probably going to force the issue with him this year,

747
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 3: and you know, but he is going to be facing

748
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: probably the top cornerback from each defense. You know, teams

749
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: will scheme to slow him down.

750
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: I guess so, well, maybe not because he's so he

751
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 2: actually was six and I didn't realize just how much

752
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: he played in the slot last year, but he was

753
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: actually sixth in the league in slot target.

754
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: So well he is I got to help. Yeah.

755
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 3: No, I've always thought of him as a as a

756
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: slot receiver, So you know, they're they're obviously gonna be

757
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 3: able to move him around, and I think his target

758
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: share will be high enough to warrant.

759
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: You know, taking him out his ADP.

760
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: And I was gonna say, like in Best Ball, one

761
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 3: of the cheapest sort of high upside stacks you could

762
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: do right now is Trevor Lawrence and Christian Kirk. You

763
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 3: know that that's kind of banking on Lawrence having a

764
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: year two leap and has less to do with Kirk.

765
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: But you know, getting a Lawrence Kirk stack is pretty

766
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 3: cheap and comes with you know, a ton of upside.

767
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: So that I was gonna say, in Best Ball leagues,

768
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: I like stacking Kirk with Lawrence.

769
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of and it's kind of that confirmation

770
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: bias if you're the Jaguars, right, I mean, yeah, just

771
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: spend all his money on this guy, You're gonna probably

772
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: treat him like the number one receiver. And you know,

773
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: it's a new regime. Now, we don't always see these

774
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: things work out right away when it's like, uh, you know,

775
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: receivers change teams. But I mean, what do you how

776
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: do you think the rest of the depth trot is

777
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: even gonna shake out? Like, is Marvin Jones still gonna

778
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: be that kind of Like I guess he would be

779
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 2: the number two more so, but like he was essentially

780
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: their alpha if they the closest thing they had to

781
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: an alpha last year, but he really disappeared down the stretch.

782
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: Then they also signed Zay Jones for a decent chunk

783
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: of money, So like, which Jones is? Like the are

784
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: any of these Jones is gonna be relevant?

785
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: I guess I think yeah.

786
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: I mean I don't want to go into every draft

787
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: building my strategy around taking Marvin Jones, but he is yeah, yeah, No,

788
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: Like his ADP is wide receiver seventy and he was

789
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: wide receiver thirty four last year and the horrific Urban

790
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: Meyer bad Trevor Lawrence offense, and so we've been saying

791
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence he can only get better this year it'll

792
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 3: be a better system. So yeah, I think Marvin Jones

793
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 3: will probably be the number two wide receiver at least

794
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: to start. You know, his upside is limited. He's turning

795
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: thirty two this year, but I think it's good to

796
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: have a veteran like him with Lawrence. I think Lawrence

797
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 3: did lean on him a lot of times. You know,

798
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: if there's a broken play, he would know where Jones

799
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: is gonna be. So, you know, I think he's a

800
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 3: good flyer at wide receiver seventy if you can get

801
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 3: him there. But yeah, just outside of Kirk, it's a mess.

802
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: I remember last year we just had the rotating guys

803
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: of you know, like Treadwell, Agnew had some spots where

804
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 3: he was valuable, Channelt, like you said, could finally break out,

805
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: and they brought in Zay Jones. So I think it's

806
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: just it's a mess and it's really hard to figure

807
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: out outside of Christian Kirk. But I'd say the one

808
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: guy that probably has the higher floor certainly would be

809
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: Marvin Jones.

810
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, I kind of go back and

811
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: forth on it because Marvin Jones has been very consistent

812
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: and if you know, if he just does what he's

813
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: done over the last few years. It's not gonna be spectacular,

814
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: but he's had at least, you know, at least seven

815
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy nine yards in each of the last

816
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: three years, you know, eight hundred and thirty two last year.

817
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: If he can get in that range, he would be

818
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 2: a value at wide receiver seventy. But I also think

819
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 2: it's kind of troubling that like once Lakwan Treadwell got

820
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: on the field, he was like kind of like he

821
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: turned into the number one receiver. Yeah, and then and

822
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: now you have like him and z Jones, Like, so

823
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: I think the the floor is like Marvin Jones is

824
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: like a healthy scratch, which I you know what I mean.

825
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: So it's like but at.

826
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: The same time, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you're just

827
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: but you're not really risking anything or just cut like

828
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: mid season. But at the same time, you're not really

829
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: risking anything at wide receiver seventy three. So I don't know,

830
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: it's it's not my favorite pick. I think I have

831
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: him on a couple of teams in bastball kind of

832
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: going ang across your thinking. But the more I think

833
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: about it, there are like two other outside receivers, and

834
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 2: then with Biscushanal is still talented, like there are there

835
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: are three guys that like could conceivably jump him on

836
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: the depth chart if they just outright him.

837
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: And then it's not great.

838
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: To throw even more cold water on the wide receivers.

839
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 3: You know, Doug Peterson's head coach. They brought in Evan

840
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: Ingram and they still have Dan Arnold, so I think

841
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 3: that like we could see more two tight end sets

842
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: where you know, you're only seeing two wide receivers on

843
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 3: the field. So it really just caps the upside of

844
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: really anybody outside of Christian Kirk because we don't know

845
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: who's gonna be playing, and they're not. Might there might

846
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: not be as many three wide snaps this year, so

847
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 3: it just it makes the whole situation something avoid in

848
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 3: my opinion.

849
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean the same is pretty much tru

850
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: at tight end. Then you got Ingram going at tight

851
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: end twenty Arnold I think is tight end thirty one.

852
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 2: You know, we love Arnold here, but now if he's

853
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: splitting snaps with Evan Ingram, I think that's just.

854
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, goes with that saying.

855
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: And you know they brought in Arnold sort of a

856
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: as a desperation move last year they had kind of injuries,

857
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 3: so he stepped in and we were loving and when

858
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: he was running over eighty percent routes run most games.

859
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 3: But yeah, Evan Ingram landing there certainly hurts Arnold's value.

860
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: I mean, he's undraftable. But Evan Ingram, he's turning twenty eight,

861
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: so he's at the tail end of his prime. But

862
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 3: he's he's probably not in the I didn't want two

863
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: discussion anymore unless unless they're just saying Evan Ingram's the man,

864
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 3: you know, and we can project them for eighty percent

865
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 3: or more routes run per game. But just I'm off

866
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: them both obviously heading into the season until until we

867
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: know more.

868
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: And in the backfield earlier in the off season, I

869
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: thought James Robinson may have some nice sleeper repeal. I

870
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: think he would kind of be that hop back if

871
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 2: he was healthy. But I'm not liking what I'm hearing

872
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: out of, you know, in terms of his progress recovering

873
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: compared to Etn. You know, Doug Peterson was quoted as

874
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: saying Etn is doing extremely well. He's been in our

875
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: off season program, working every day, feeling good.

876
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: But Robinson.

877
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: They're saying he's not doing the things physically now in

878
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: the football field, but we're hoping at some point in

879
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: training camp that becomes more of a reality. So, you know, obviously,

880
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: Robinson got hurt much later in the year than Eatn,

881
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: who went down, you know, early in the preseason. Right now,

882
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: etns RB twenty seven, Robinson's RB thirty six.

883
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: If we knew Robinson was going to be.

884
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: Healthy, I would say Robinson would be kind of the

885
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: value there. But given what we're here, and I mean,

886
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 2: especially with Etn just being so explosive, Robinson's as talented

887
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: as he is still an undrafted guy. Like you don't know,

888
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: anytime you have like an undrafted guy then go through

889
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: a major injury like it's it just seems like the

890
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: writings on the wall for Etn to kind of run

891
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 2: away with this job early in camp.

892
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: So what do you think about this?

893
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 3: Back to Yeah, so apparently Eten's pretty much one hundred

894
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: percent recovered from his injury last year, which is good news.

895
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 3: And like you said, James Robinson, he's coming off a

896
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 3: you know, a more difficult injury to come back from, Achilles,

897
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: so he might not be ready to start the season.

898
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: There's even a chance he just doesn't even play at

899
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: all this season from what I'm reading. But either way, Achilles,

900
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 3: it's really hard for running back to return to their

901
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 3: previous form. So I'm definitely down Robinson. And you know

902
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: that Travis Atn should be the workhorse back this year.

903
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 3: Like you said, he just has insane, you know, receiving upside.

904
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: So I've been hearing, you know, like he could line

905
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 3: up in the slot, they could just move him around,

906
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: So he's certainly a weapon should be.

907
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: The workhorse back.

908
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: So I think at RB twenty there's still even more

909
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 3: room for his upside. He's he's technically a rookie back

910
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 3: this year. He didn't play it all last year, so

911
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 3: he's my favorite rookie backheading in the season. He has

912
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 3: the best situation so and he already has chemistry with Lawrence,

913
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 3: you know, from their Clemson days. So I love it

914
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 3: the upside that Atn provides at RB twenty right now.

915
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: He's actually RB twenty seven and RB twenty.

916
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: Seven in half PPR.

917
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, that's absolutely like I guess I'm

918
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 3: looking at a sharper ADP.

919
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm just going for fantasy pros because oh yeah,

920
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: it's getting out. It's getting to that point where I

921
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: don't want to just use the best ball ADP anymore. Right,

922
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: But obviously it's still way early, and I have seen

923
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: him go around RB twenty in a lot of leagues.

924
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think I think he's kind of he's

925
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: out of the sleeper here. James Robinson at least right

926
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: now is looking like the bus. And I'd say Kirk

927
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: also could be a sleeper just going outside the top forty.

928
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: You know, he's kind of the clear, clear guy that

929
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: I think is going to get guit targets and be

930
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 2: on the field.

931
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would.

932
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 3: I would agree at N's my sleeper, just because I

933
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 3: don't think ADP is really factoring that James Robinson probably

934
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: will miss at least the start of the season, and

935
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 3: in turn, James Robinson I just can't consider my ADP.

936
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: So he's my bus, just because.

937
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: There's there's better options that are actually healthy right now

938
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: in that range.

939
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: I was jumped to the Texans Davis Mills. Actually, you know,

940
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: he's going to QUB thirty. You know, I don't think

941
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 2: he really has any streaming appeal starts the year versus

942
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: Indie than at Denver. But I guess it's where it's

943
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: mentioning at least that he was pretty much the second

944
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 2: best rookie quarterback last year. I mean, he had some

945
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 2: big games, you know, in some kind of comeback efforts,

946
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: and you know, he was very I think it was

947
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: the best. The thing to kind of take away from

948
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: that is that he shouldn't really hurt Brandon Cooks' value.

949
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: You know, a full season of Mills.

950
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 2: With Mills, Brandon Cooks sixty nine of ninety seven catches

951
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: to targets for seven hundred and thirty six yards and

952
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: five touchdowns, seventy one percent catch rate. With Tyrod, he

953
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: only had a fifty eight percent catch rate and only

954
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: one touchdown on thirty six targets. So Brandon Cooks's production

955
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 2: increased with Davis Mills. He's going at wide receiver twenty seven.

956
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: I always like in that range to get these kind

957
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 2: of clear cut wide receiver ones on bad teams because

958
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: they have this like kind of un I feel like

959
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 2: underrated target upside where if things go right, like you

960
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: could always end up with like a guy with like

961
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty targets like Alan Robbinson a couple

962
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: of years ago on the Bears. So I really like

963
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: Cooks here. You know, if I need a receiver, and

964
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 2: I usually do like to pick receivers in this range,

965
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: I have no problem taking Cooks that at ADP.

966
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, So when it comes to Davis mill your I mean,

967
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: he wasn't as bad as you know, most people expected

968
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: as rookie. So while he's below average, he's probably not

969
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: the worst starting quarterback in the league. He's probably in

970
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: the discussion, but he flashed them upside last year. He

971
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: had four three hundred plus yard passing games. But he's

972
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: not you know, you can't target in fantasy just you know,

973
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 3: he just blacks the upside. He has no rushing upside whatsoever,

974
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: still plays behind a bad offensive line. So yeah, I

975
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: think the way to think about Mills is like, does

976
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: he help Brandon Cooks and or does he allow Brandon

977
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 3: Cooks to be you know, wide receiver too? And I

978
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 3: think we saw last year that he does. So yeah,

979
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: I think Mills was good enough where I think Cooks

980
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 3: is just a slam dunk at his current ADP. I'm

981
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 3: with you on that, but Mills probably isn't good enough

982
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: to really support anybody else outside of Brandon Cooks. I

983
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 3: think if the Texans were to trade for a Baker

984
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 3: Mayfield or Jimmy g you know, I think cooks Is

985
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: value will probably stay the same, but that might be

986
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 3: able to support another pass catching target. But at the

987
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: end of the day, the Tech Texas offense is basically

988
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 3: just Brandon Cooks is the guy at target, and everybody

989
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: else probably not.

990
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

991
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Nico Collins, maybe there's a year

992
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: two week, but I don't think it's gonna be substantial

993
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: enough to warrant any fantasy consideration. You know, John Mechi

994
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: the third, You know, he's intriguing just because I think

995
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: he could step in immediately and be the number two

996
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: target after Cooks, a great route runner in college, complain

997
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 2: in the slot, and the team traded picks number sixty

998
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: eight went away and one twenty four to move up

999
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 2: to forty four to draft Mechi the third. So, I mean,

1000
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: I think if anyone is gonna be valuable at least

1001
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: in some weeks outside of Cooks, it's gonna be it's

1002
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: probably gonna be Mechi the third.

1003
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1004
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's dealing with an ACL injury, so yeah,

1005
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna be ready for week one,

1006
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: and I think just you already mentioned it, but heading

1007
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 3: in the year two, I think Nico Collins, just you know,

1008
00:47:58,440 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 3: probably has more upside.

1009
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: He's six four two fifteen.

1010
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: He flashed at times last year, and I don't think

1011
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: he's the guy we should be targeting necessarily, but he

1012
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: does have the potential for a year two leap. I mean,

1013
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 3: he played with Davis Mills all last year, So I

1014
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 3: just think out of the two, I would say Collins

1015
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 3: probably has the higher up side, just because we don't

1016
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: know if Mechi's gonna be one hundred percent heading into

1017
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: the season. But like you said, you know, the Texans

1018
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 3: did give up a lot just to move up to

1019
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 3: get him, so they're probably going to force the issue

1020
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: with him when he is healthy. But that's that's just

1021
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 3: an injury situation we're gonna have to monitor for sure.

1022
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would, I would monitor.

1023
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: I I mean, I don't see any indication that he's

1024
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 2: not going to be ready for the season, and if

1025
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: he is.

1026
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I actually think he does that. And

1027
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: I like.

1028
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: Collins last year, but I think Meschi is gonna have

1029
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: more upside because I just think he's like when a

1030
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: tea when you see a team like trade up and

1031
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: draft like a polished NFL ready route runner type guy, Like,

1032
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 2: I just think, yeah, that the intention is pretty clear.

1033
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: Our guy Brevin Jordan's at tight end thirty one? Are

1034
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: we not going to sneak into that tight end two discussion?

1035
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: Although with Tyrod Taylor he averaged three point nine yards

1036
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 2: per target and a sixty percent catch rate. With Davis

1037
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 2: Mills seven point seven yards per target, so he basically

1038
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: doubled it up and a seventy eight percent catch rate,

1039
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 2: So small samples with both eighteen targets with Mills pen

1040
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: with Taylor, but you know he should. He might be

1041
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 2: one of those guys that at least maybe he gets

1042
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: into that low and tight end to discussion in year two,

1043
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: takes that year two week, But I think he's going

1044
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: to be the clear like pass catching number one tight end.

1045
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1046
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 3: I mean we were on him at times last year.

1047
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 3: He obviously has the talent to be fantasy relevant, but

1048
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 3: they brought back Faroh Brown, who essentially split time with

1049
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: them at the end of last season, so this is

1050
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: certainly a situation avoid he might, you know, end up

1051
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 3: in like a Showdown slate recommendation or something like that,

1052
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: even though I don't know if the Texans even play,

1053
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 3: and a one off slate.

1054
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: For every game nowadays, Like.

1055
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, have to Rerevin Jordan might be a guy

1056
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 3: to consider in a Showdown slate, but you know, heading

1057
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 3: into the season, probably not worth you know, wasting draft capital.

1058
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 2: And speaking of wasting draft capital, I guess we'll finish

1059
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 2: up with the backfield here. Oh yeah, Damian Pierce, fourth

1060
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: round pick going to RB fifty one. I guess the

1061
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: question is like, he's probably gonna be a committee back,

1062
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: like but like, how can he be like the.

1063
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: One A at some point? And it's so how soon

1064
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: do you think he can do that?

1065
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I have a pretty cut and

1066
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 3: dry roll in fans football to avoid any running backs

1067
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 3: that earn in a potential two to three way running

1068
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: back committee on a shitty team. So just getting out

1069
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 3: of the way. I don't like Damian Pierce because of

1070
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: those reasons. But this depth chart is so bad, and

1071
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 3: he does have some talent. I mean, he didn't see

1072
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: much volume at Florida, but he has the skills to

1073
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: be a workhorse back, So he does have the upside

1074
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 3: to be the week one starter and you know, seeing

1075
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 3: a volume to be on the fancy radar. But right

1076
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 3: now his ADP is RB forty two, so he's in

1077
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 3: that range where you can be getting guys like Alexander

1078
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 3: Madison or Tony Peller, guys that actually have you know,

1079
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 3: legit RB one upside, Pierce doesn't have that, so he's

1080
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: he's a nice flyer. But just given his ADP right now,

1081
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 3: I'm probably often because this this is going to be

1082
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 3: a murky situation no matter what, So I'm probably off Pierce.

1083
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: Even though I was kind of loving his landing spot

1084
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 3: after the draft, I think his ADP's just inflated a

1085
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 3: bit too much.

1086
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 2: Since then I'm seeing RB fifty one on Fantasy. Oh

1087
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: so I mean I think if you can get him

1088
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: as your RB five, oh yeah, then like rookie backs

1089
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 2: have been known to be some of the more profitable

1090
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 2: back you can draft in fantasy if you're just kind

1091
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 2: of drafting blindly, which pretty much are after the top

1092
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: forty or so or after the top you know, forty five.

1093
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: So I don't mind it. I'm interested.

1094
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 2: You know, Marlon Mack is RB fifty eight and ADP

1095
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: rex Burkhead is RB eighty one. But you look at

1096
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: the contract these guys, and I know Rex plays some

1097
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 2: special teams.

1098
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: Mac doesn't.

1099
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: But Rex burke had got two point one They both

1100
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: got one year deals for about just over MAC two million,

1101
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: burke at two point three million. So both got one

1102
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: year deals for a round two million. But Rex Burkehead

1103
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: had two point one million guaranteed and Marlon Mack has

1104
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand guaranteed. So like that's a

1105
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: pretty big like switch and ADP considering one guy's getting

1106
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: like ten times a guaranteed money. So I mean, if

1107
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 2: there was anyone, I think we're a little too high

1108
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: on Mac, I think Burkehead would like Burkehead probably will

1109
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: be the Week one starter.

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00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: Oh god.

1111
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying, like that's that's that's my

1112
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: guy from last year.

1113
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: I got a rep for him.

1114
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's gonna hold the job or it's

1115
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 2: gonna be a committee. But I don't know if we

1116
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: should be drafting Marlon Mack ahead of Burkehead, and in

1117
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: some spots I've even seen him go ahead of Piers.

1118
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1119
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 3: So the one positive for Marlon Mack is this the

1120
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 3: first time in a few seasons. He's not gonna be

1121
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 3: backing up Jonathan Taylor, so there is a path to

1122
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 3: actual touches.

1123
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 1: On a weekly basis. But you know, he it's gonna

1124
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: be tough.

1125
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: For him to ever return to previous form, which wasn't

1126
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: even that great to be honest, after his Achilles tear

1127
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,479
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. So you know, he's at least landing

1128
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: a spot where he does have the potential to be

1129
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: the workhorse back.

1130
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm off him.

1131
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 3: He needs a lot of good things to happen to

1132
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: have fancy value at this point. So, yeah, rex Burg

1133
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 3: had the cheapest back to get in this backfield. Like

1134
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: you said, there was at times last year you were

1135
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: playing him, you know, betting on his over using him

1136
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: in DFS, but that was because he benefited from multiple injuries.

1137
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 3: They trade away mark Ingram, so you know who else

1138
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 3: were the game of the ball to. So unfortunately he

1139
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: probably he needs one or two of these backs to

1140
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: probably miss time or you know, get cut heading in

1141
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: the season. So I think this sort of a wait

1142
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 3: and see approach for me, where once one of these

1143
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 3: guys goes down, then we can start attacking this backfield.

1144
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm in sleeper wise, I think the only guy you

1145
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: can really have a give, like a really good chance

1146
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: to OutKick his ADB eightyp excuse me, is Brandon Cooks

1147
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 2: at wide receiver twenty seven. I think he could finishes,

1148
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: you know, a like mid range wide receiver to maybe

1149
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: even in the teams if things break right and in match.

1150
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: You the third is like a deep sleeper, but I

1151
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: doubt like he could.

1152
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: He might beat wide receiver ninety five, but I still

1153
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 2: don't think that's going to be valuable in fantasy.

1154
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, Sam, the sleeper has to be Brandon Cooks.

1155
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 3: He's the only viable player from this team, but the

1156
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 3: bus just based on his If his ADP you know,

1157
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 3: gets in near the top forty, it would be Damian Pierce.

1158
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 3: But like you said, if if you can get him

1159
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 3: outside of the top fifty, I think he's worth it.

1160
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 3: So just keep it on as ADP because he does

1161
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 3: have upside, but just give him the current trend. I

1162
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 3: would say, just be careful on Damian Pierce. If his

1163
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: ADP's run RB forty.

1164
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