1
00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,239
Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome back to Jersey Jays. I am Jackie Goldschneider.

2
00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm Jennifer Wessler.

3
00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,559
Speaker 2: And today we are talking about Vallan Valentine today.

4
00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,080
Speaker 1: Very exciting and we have the two.

5
00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,400
Speaker 3: Hottest guests on and yes I get carried away. Okay,

6
00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,080
Speaker 3: Yes they're cute. They're very Cute're very cute.

7
00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,000
Speaker 2: It's Evan Goldschneider and Jeffrey Fessler.

8
00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,240
Speaker 1: Do you call him jack or Jeffrey.

9
00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,960
Speaker 3: Depends what mood I'm in, jeff Jeffrey. There's other choice

10
00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,360
Speaker 3: words that I use that will go unmentioned here, but yeah,

11
00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,760
Speaker 3: we both answered it just about anything.

12
00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,840
Speaker 2: So all right, Well we'll get into everything with them,

13
00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,479
Speaker 2: but before that, let's catch up a little because I

14
00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:49,120
Speaker 2: did see you.

15
00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,680
Speaker 1: At fashion Week this week, but I saw you didn't.

16
00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,640
Speaker 2: I mean, everything was so crazy, we didn't get to

17
00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:54,640
Speaker 2: talk too much.

18
00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,920
Speaker 1: How was your week? Did you have fun? I wasn't.

19
00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,840
Speaker 3: It wasn't a fashion week. I had a week event,

20
00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,920
Speaker 3: so I think you probably did a lot more than

21
00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,280
Speaker 3: I did. But I loved it. You were the one

22
00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,520
Speaker 3: that I was at per Grave event and it was

23
00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,319
Speaker 3: just it was amazing. It was so much fun. I

24
00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,480
Speaker 3: haven't been to a lot of fashion shows, so I'm

25
00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:19,360
Speaker 3: a total newbie in this category. And yeah, it was

26
00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:24,080
Speaker 3: really really cool. The Graven is an amazing new brand,

27
00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,640
Speaker 3: and I have been loving their clothing for a while

28
00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,320
Speaker 3: now because I got a package from them, probably going back,

29
00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe six months ago, and have absolutely

30
00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,680
Speaker 3: loved what they sent me, and just looking at their

31
00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,840
Speaker 3: new collection, it is so gorgeous. It is so high quality,

32
00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,160
Speaker 3: it is so luxurious. Materials are amazing. I loved that

33
00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,160
Speaker 3: fashion show. Oh good, Yeah, it was really fun.

34
00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,320
Speaker 2: I mean I think we were both front row, and

35
00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,480
Speaker 2: the models are so beautiful and the clothes were so nice.

36
00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,360
Speaker 2: Sort of transports you to a different world for the moment.

37
00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,560
Speaker 2: You forget that the whole world's on buyer and like

38
00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,760
Speaker 2: everything sucks once you walk out the tour.

39
00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,880
Speaker 3: But I thought the first part also was. I mean,

40
00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,960
Speaker 3: I didn't again, I didn't have my expectations. I didn't

41
00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,600
Speaker 3: have I didn't really know what I was walking into.

42
00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,079
Speaker 3: I've only been to a few of these, but I

43
00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,840
Speaker 3: mean they were serving caviar on blinis. What are those

44
00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,560
Speaker 3: little wait, what are the little pancakes called? Yeah, I

45
00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,320
Speaker 3: think they called Bellini's Bellini's right, and they were serving

46
00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,080
Speaker 3: belinis because it was at Kasta Chipriani. We're drinking Bellini's

47
00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,600
Speaker 3: and all like the most beautiful, fabulous people. And you

48
00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,320
Speaker 3: saw Rachel my daughter working. She looks amazing. So Jen's

49
00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,239
Speaker 3: daughter graduated college last year.

50
00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,040
Speaker 2: She graduated Delaware and now she is working in pr Ryes.

51
00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,640
Speaker 3: She works in the city. Then, yeah, she just like

52
00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,440
Speaker 3: looks like a city check. Now, oh really she's well

53
00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,679
Speaker 3: sophisticated working girl. Yeah, Julia Hart. And she didn't even

54
00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,480
Speaker 3: know that it was really Julia Hart, but came in

55
00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,680
Speaker 3: and complimented her on her outfit and she knew who

56
00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,680
Speaker 3: she was, just like, mom, that's and she was sort

57
00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:08,880
Speaker 3: of like try and pull together. I was like, yeah,

58
00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,399
Speaker 3: that's tooly hard. She was so flattered.

59
00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Julia is the sweetest. Yeah.

60
00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,480
Speaker 2: It was a great event. And yeah, now back to life.

61
00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,240
Speaker 2: I have one more this week and then back to

62
00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,200
Speaker 2: regular life. Back to the unglamorous life. No, just kidding,

63
00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:24,920
Speaker 2: everything's glammory.

64
00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:25,120
Speaker 1: No.

65
00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,320
Speaker 2: So other than that, do you uh well, we'll save

66
00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,480
Speaker 2: some of this for with the guys. But but do

67
00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,680
Speaker 2: you do you celebrate Valentine's Day?

68
00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,160
Speaker 1: No?

69
00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,440
Speaker 3: Not really, I mean no, well, we have like a

70
00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,800
Speaker 3: couple of traditions that we can save it for our

71
00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,920
Speaker 3: discussion with the guys that are just silly. But no,

72
00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,960
Speaker 3: we don't do anything big. We don't make big dinner

73
00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:48,560
Speaker 3: plans to you.

74
00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you know we used to. But it's funny.

75
00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,920
Speaker 2: Now my fourteen year old daughter's got a little guy

76
00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,800
Speaker 2: that she's been dating for like three months, and my

77
00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,520
Speaker 2: sixteen year old almost seventeen next and a month and

78
00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,320
Speaker 2: a half, has a girlfriend, and so now they want

79
00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,520
Speaker 2: to both take their you know, others out to dinner,

80
00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,960
Speaker 2: and so we and Evan are kind of like, well,

81
00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,880
Speaker 2: I think we're just going to be like driving people

82
00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:14,600
Speaker 2: all night.

83
00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,560
Speaker 1: So I have to say, did you do this with

84
00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,040
Speaker 1: the little one?

85
00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,600
Speaker 3: So when mine were little, every holiday it was I

86
00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,760
Speaker 3: had to set something up with I don't know, bloomed

87
00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,839
Speaker 3: and then they had these little presents and there was

88
00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,400
Speaker 3: candy when they woke up, and then you remember you

89
00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,800
Speaker 3: have to like make all little bound hines for them

90
00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,839
Speaker 3: to bring to school for the class.

91
00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,719
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, and they were Actually there was

92
00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,279
Speaker 2: a lot because I always had to do two at

93
00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,120
Speaker 2: a time because just that's the twins, right, So I

94
00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,599
Speaker 2: always had to do like forty six of them and

95
00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,440
Speaker 2: like write out the messages and then like seal them

96
00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,680
Speaker 2: with the candy and everything, and like it took a

97
00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:49,320
Speaker 2: lot of time.

98
00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, I miss those days. Got it goes so fast.

99
00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,239
Speaker 1: Oh that sounds very cliche, but it goes so fast.

100
00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,040
Speaker 2: But we'll go through everything with the guys. I mean,

101
00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,279
Speaker 2: and you know, back when we were first date, like

102
00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,920
Speaker 2: everything everything had to be like super special. But then

103
00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,520
Speaker 2: you know, you we actually keep our love alive, but

104
00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,479
Speaker 2: not so much in life. You know, when it's on

105
00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,320
Speaker 2: a date in a time, you know, like it's we

106
00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,520
Speaker 2: don't do things like just because it's a certain day,

107
00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,800
Speaker 2: but just birthdays, maybe anniversary, yeah, just birthdays, although you

108
00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,800
Speaker 2: know I'm not a big birthday person. What else, And

109
00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,560
Speaker 2: you're your son's in law school. He's doing well. My

110
00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,520
Speaker 2: son is in law school. My son is stressed. I

111
00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,279
Speaker 2: don't know if you were like this, Jack, but he is.

112
00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,240
Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't get stressed. And it's been a lot.

113
00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,120
Speaker 2: And it's also now the internships after first year, so

114
00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,840
Speaker 2: he's dealing with all of that and they are now.

115
00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,640
Speaker 2: So I don't know if anybody even cares about this,

116
00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,719
Speaker 2: but he's in his he just started his second semester

117
00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,120
Speaker 2: of his first year, and he needs to start applying

118
00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,200
Speaker 2: for internships for the summer after his second year.

119
00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,440
Speaker 1: Yep, which I don't. I'm like, now, what even even

120
00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,720
Speaker 1: started hill first year? He'll be fine.

121
00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,640
Speaker 3: But he you know, he's really not stress case like

122
00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,040
Speaker 3: Rachel and I are stress cases.

123
00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,720
Speaker 1: But he's stressed. No, it is very stressful.

124
00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,680
Speaker 2: And then, but you know, you could do so many

125
00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:11,599
Speaker 2: things with the law degree.

126
00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,320
Speaker 1: For example, I'm on a podcast in the real house.

127
00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,640
Speaker 1: That's right there, you go.

128
00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,200
Speaker 4: Thanks, all right.

129
00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,640
Speaker 2: Well, welcome to our handsome husbands, Jeff and Evan. Thank

130
00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:29,719
Speaker 2: you guys for being here.

131
00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,080
Speaker 4: Thank you.

132
00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,279
Speaker 2: I God, So, I want to jump right in so

133
00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,080
Speaker 2: Fessler's I actually.

134
00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,119
Speaker 1: Don't know as close as we are, Jenna, I don't

135
00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,080
Speaker 1: know how you guys met. I don't tell me you

136
00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:45,520
Speaker 1: and you don't remember. Really, I think I do. My story, Jeff,

137
00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:46,120
Speaker 1: you want to tell it?

138
00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,840
Speaker 2: I want to tell Yeah, you guys, tell me how

139
00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,680
Speaker 2: you met, first im questions, first date, how.

140
00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,880
Speaker 1: You feel like, give me all of it. It is

141
00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,839
Speaker 1: actually a really good story. Go ahead, jeffy Okay.

142
00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:02,159
Speaker 5: So I had used as about seven to nineteen ninety seven,

143
00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,200
Speaker 5: so I had used a dating service. A couple of

144
00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,840
Speaker 5: times called it just lunch in New York and one

145
00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:11,840
Speaker 5: day ome in the office.

146
00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,400
Speaker 3: They wait, so it's just lunch, said it. They set

147
00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,679
Speaker 3: professionals up on lunch date. So the the I actually

148
00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,160
Speaker 3: think it's still around. But the idea is like, Okay,

149
00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,320
Speaker 3: if you're a busy professional, you don't have time for dinner,

150
00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,480
Speaker 3: but everybody has time for lunch or a drink. So

151
00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:30,600
Speaker 3: the premise was, excuse me fixing professionals up on lunch dates.

152
00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,440
Speaker 1: It's just by the way I used it. Also, there

153
00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,400
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, I might have met you, Jack. I know.

154
00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,560
Speaker 2: I've actually been furiously searching my emails from back then,

155
00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,440
Speaker 2: but email was so new, really, I mean it wasn't

156
00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,320
Speaker 2: new new, but like you really didn't do all of

157
00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,440
Speaker 2: it through email. So I can't find my emails back

158
00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,800
Speaker 2: from like two thousand and one, two thousand and two.

159
00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,240
Speaker 2: But I bet you you and you you were my

160
00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:53,920
Speaker 2: person there.

161
00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,400
Speaker 3: Can you imagine? Yeah, I was the director of Y

162
00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,480
Speaker 3: and then the director of Jersey. All right away, go on,

163
00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:01,160
Speaker 3: Jeffrey John.

164
00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:02,320
Speaker 4: All right.

165
00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,880
Speaker 5: So I'm sitting in my office and I get a call.

166
00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,000
Speaker 5: It was a Friday afternoon. I think I get a

167
00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,360
Speaker 5: call and it's Jen and she's like, you know, I

168
00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,840
Speaker 5: see that you used. It's just lunched. Do you want

169
00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,800
Speaker 5: to come back? I go no, it was horrible. I'm

170
00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,480
Speaker 5: not doing that again. And she was like, just you know,

171
00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,560
Speaker 5: I want you to come in and want you to

172
00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,560
Speaker 5: meet me. And for some reason, I was like, you

173
00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,840
Speaker 5: know what, I have nothing to do. It's Friday afternoon,

174
00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,320
Speaker 5: all right, I'll go over and see.

175
00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,560
Speaker 3: I was the new director there, so you try to

176
00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,319
Speaker 3: so you wanted him to meet you for purposes of

177
00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,000
Speaker 3: like it's joining. It was as a numbers game, right, like, okay,

178
00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,360
Speaker 3: somebody joined. That was the idea to get more people

179
00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,240
Speaker 3: to join. So you called old clients to see if

180
00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,439
Speaker 3: they were renew Okay.

181
00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,600
Speaker 6: So well I went over.

182
00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,480
Speaker 5: I walked in and I was you know, I met

183
00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:56,720
Speaker 5: her and I was like wow, that was my first

184
00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,000
Speaker 5: thought was wow, she looks amazing. And we started talking

185
00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,600
Speaker 5: and she, you know, does her gen thing with talking

186
00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,199
Speaker 5: making you feel great, you know.

187
00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,720
Speaker 6: The whole thing. And then she goes, what is your type?

188
00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,600
Speaker 6: And I said, look in the mirror.

189
00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,400
Speaker 3: Oh, and I just well, can I just jump in

190
00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,960
Speaker 3: to say that if you know Jeff Fessler, I mean

191
00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,480
Speaker 3: you two. Do you know that is not no Jeff

192
00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,120
Speaker 3: Fessler thing to say. So, like, looking back on it,

193
00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,640
Speaker 3: you know, I remember it happened, and I was like,

194
00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,280
Speaker 3: ha ha haha. Another guy thinking he has all this

195
00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,000
Speaker 3: you know game. Meanwhile, Jefffessler, no offense. My love has

196
00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,880
Speaker 3: a zero game. So that was like a very big deal.

197
00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:40,320
Speaker 4: He did that.

198
00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,520
Speaker 1: He did, Oh yeah, well it didn't work.

199
00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,080
Speaker 5: Actually, well, yeah, no, it didn't work because then she

200
00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,040
Speaker 5: goes she said, well, I'm in a Hampton's house and

201
00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,200
Speaker 5: I have a boyfriend.

202
00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,520
Speaker 6: And then blah blah blah.

203
00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,079
Speaker 5: And this was like May, and I'm thinking there was

204
00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,920
Speaker 5: no way she have a boyfriend in May in a

205
00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,120
Speaker 5: Hampton's house. You may be maybe at the end of

206
00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,280
Speaker 5: the summer, but not now. So I kept pursuing it.

207
00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,200
Speaker 5: And you know, first date, what was the first date was.

208
00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,680
Speaker 3: Four seasons drink at the four Seasons, right, It was

209
00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,040
Speaker 3: like not a date he was sending me. I was like, no, listen,

210
00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,600
Speaker 3: I'm you're a client. It's not professional. I don't do that. Meanwhile,

211
00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,079
Speaker 3: I really took the job to find a husband. But whatever.

212
00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,000
Speaker 3: So I was like no, and then he's like, well,

213
00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,719
Speaker 3: we just meet up whatever, have a drink whatever. And

214
00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,439
Speaker 3: I remember we went to the we met at the

215
00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,520
Speaker 3: Four Seasons, and I was like, this is not like

216
00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,680
Speaker 3: we could be friends. This is not going to be

217
00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,160
Speaker 3: a love connection. He was shorter than me. Sorry, honey,

218
00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,880
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you. My one thing was that I

219
00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,080
Speaker 3: wanted a tall guy that was like, didn't I didn't

220
00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:53,040
Speaker 3: care if he was wealthy or you know, really over well,

221
00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,640
Speaker 3: he just wanted him taller than me because I always

222
00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:56,880
Speaker 3: felt like kind of like a big girl.

223
00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:02,439
Speaker 1: So careful what you wish for, ladies. So when did

224
00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,440
Speaker 1: you know that you were in love?

225
00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,520
Speaker 3: Well, we just became friends. I was like, listen, this

226
00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,680
Speaker 3: is not going to happen. I'm you know, let's just

227
00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,680
Speaker 3: be friends. We could hang out. And we started to

228
00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,079
Speaker 3: hang out and like every Thursday. So for all you

229
00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,400
Speaker 3: young people listening, Thursday night was friends seinfeld E r

230
00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,520
Speaker 3: Night and back in the day. So he would come

231
00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,720
Speaker 3: over every Thursday and I would I was like such

232
00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,200
Speaker 3: a little beach. I was like, listen, go to chicken kitchen,

233
00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,360
Speaker 3: pick up chicken, come over to my apartment, don't make

234
00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,839
Speaker 3: eye contact. I'm very tired. If you want us to

235
00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,640
Speaker 3: be friends, fine, sit there, we'll eat chicken. And watch

236
00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,400
Speaker 3: Seinfeld and when yours over, get the hell out. I

237
00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,280
Speaker 3: mean it, like he must have really liked me. It

238
00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,720
Speaker 3: was like that was like my whole attitude, like fine,

239
00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,400
Speaker 3: you're a nice guy, we'll be friends.

240
00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,520
Speaker 2: Whatever, And then how long until you guys were a couple?

241
00:11:59,559 --> 00:11:59,800
Speaker 4: Well?

242
00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,760
Speaker 5: And then then what happened was you know, she was

243
00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,760
Speaker 5: still said, still remain friends. And then one day she said,

244
00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,600
Speaker 5: why don't you come into the office and look through

245
00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:10,120
Speaker 5: the files?

246
00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,880
Speaker 1: Ill girl, you other women?

247
00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,600
Speaker 6: And I said, all right, sounds good to me, and.

248
00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,960
Speaker 1: I did, yeah, And then what happened. Yeah, I wasn't

249
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,160
Speaker 1: I was not pleased. That was it.

250
00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,120
Speaker 3: I was not pleased. Yeah, but it was you know.

251
00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,640
Speaker 3: So then he wanted to be fixed up, and I

252
00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,280
Speaker 3: was like, what do you want to fixed up? You're

253
00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,880
Speaker 3: madly in love with me? What are you what are

254
00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,280
Speaker 3: you talking about? Right at the time, I was dating

255
00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,199
Speaker 3: this other guy and who it was totally unrequited love.

256
00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,400
Speaker 3: I was crazy about him and he was not crazy

257
00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,839
Speaker 3: about me. But started to even out a little bit,

258
00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,560
Speaker 3: and like one day I saw him and Jeff in

259
00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:56,720
Speaker 3: the same day and I kissed that guy, and then

260
00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,000
Speaker 3: I kissed Jeff Wessler and I was like, wait a second,

261
00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,880
Speaker 3: and wait a second, wait a second, like Jeff Wessler

262
00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:10,040
Speaker 3: And it was it was like as soon as I

263
00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,960
Speaker 3: liked him, and then I then I loved him in

264
00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,720
Speaker 3: about three minutes, and about three minutes later I was like,

265
00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,400
Speaker 3: where's my ring? And this is gonna have to happen now.

266
00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,199
Speaker 1: Sorry, you guys. How old were you when you got married?

267
00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:25,360
Speaker 1: I was thirty.

268
00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,720
Speaker 3: I was thirty one when we got married, thirty when

269
00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:32,600
Speaker 3: we got engaged, right, Jeff. And then last question, and

270
00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,599
Speaker 3: we'll pivot. What where'd you get married? Marine Beach and

271
00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:42,959
Speaker 3: Yacht Club, New York Outdoors? Uh, And it was not outdoors,

272
00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,600
Speaker 3: it was, but it was on the water and it

273
00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,599
Speaker 3: was just a million years ago and it was just beautiful.

274
00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:55,440
Speaker 2: Oh beautiful. Well your turn, all right, Well havn't gone.

275
00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,280
Speaker 4: I'll let you tell the story.

276
00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,440
Speaker 1: Oh, now do you remember the night we met?

277
00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,480
Speaker 4: Of course, brother Jimmies.

278
00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were Brother Jimmies.

279
00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,480
Speaker 2: Anyone who's from New York City or they or went

280
00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,079
Speaker 2: to New York City in the nineties early aughts, and

281
00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,560
Speaker 2: they call it right, everyone remembers Brother Jimmy's. It was

282
00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,160
Speaker 2: like for those who don't know, it's like a beer

283
00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,480
Speaker 2: bar through and throw. It's like a barbecue joint. And

284
00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:26,640
Speaker 2: they serve these fish bowls full of like mystery liquids, alcohol,

285
00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,400
Speaker 2: one hundred straws coming out, dirty plastic toys inside, and

286
00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,120
Speaker 2: like they're designed for lots of people to share them.

287
00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,360
Speaker 1: It's so fun.

288
00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,560
Speaker 2: They play like great you know, classic rock, great music.

289
00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,360
Speaker 2: And I was there on a Thursday with my best

290
00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,400
Speaker 2: friend at the time, who's still one of my closest friends,

291
00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,600
Speaker 2: and uh, and I saw Evan. The funny thing is

292
00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,000
Speaker 2: that he was where. Evan's the biggest Jets fan ever.

293
00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,240
Speaker 2: Do you know we named one of our children after

294
00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,400
Speaker 2: the Jets. Middle name is Jet. And he was wearing

295
00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,440
Speaker 2: a Giant's hat and I always ask him, why were

296
00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,400
Speaker 2: you wearing a Gian Evan? Why are wearing a joint set?

297
00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,600
Speaker 7: Because every team, if I wear their their hat or

298
00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,000
Speaker 7: their shirt, I bring bad luck to it. And I

299
00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,840
Speaker 7: have a lot of shot in Freuda in my life

300
00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,040
Speaker 7: as being a Jet fan. Any team that wins, I'm

301
00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,880
Speaker 7: jealous of the thing with brother Jimmy's. By the way,

302
00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,200
Speaker 7: if you think about it, it's like the exact opposite

303
00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,040
Speaker 7: of it's just lunch you go to It's just lunch

304
00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,800
Speaker 7: to find somebody that you could fall in love.

305
00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,240
Speaker 1: Right, I know where you can see Jimmy's like out.

306
00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,680
Speaker 4: You know, find somebody for the night. That's the intention.

307
00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,320
Speaker 4: You don't expect to find your wife.

308
00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:32,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

309
00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,360
Speaker 2: So I was actually sitting at the bar with my

310
00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,800
Speaker 2: friend Hannah because we used to go every Thursday night

311
00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,520
Speaker 2: we had we were friends at the bartender and the

312
00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:46,840
Speaker 2: staff there, and she wanted to or or something from

313
00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,880
Speaker 2: the menu. So I made eye contact with Evan. But

314
00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,800
Speaker 2: I was not in the best headspace at that time.

315
00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:56,400
Speaker 2: I was, you know, I was anorexic. I was not

316
00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,080
Speaker 2: like very secure, you know, and I I saw him,

317
00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,040
Speaker 2: and I thought that guy will never like me.

318
00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:03,680
Speaker 1: And I hate that.

319
00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,080
Speaker 2: That's my first thought that when I saw and my

320
00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,720
Speaker 2: first impression is that guy would never like me. But anyway,

321
00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,640
Speaker 2: so she's looking through the men and you, and then

322
00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,960
Speaker 2: I hear a voice behind my shoulder and he says,

323
00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,360
Speaker 2: I hear the filet mignon is delicious. And I turned

324
00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,280
Speaker 2: around and it was him, and I was just so

325
00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,000
Speaker 2: shocked that he came over to talk to us.

326
00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,760
Speaker 1: But it was very very smooth, that's very cute. It

327
00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:27,480
Speaker 1: was cute.

328
00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,480
Speaker 2: And then from there we went so our first date,

329
00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,800
Speaker 2: he took me to a Mexican restaurant and I marry Anne.

330
00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,920
Speaker 2: So I was in a phase of not eating. No,

331
00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,520
Speaker 2: what was it called it went away? It's called Zerella.

332
00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,280
Speaker 4: It was called Zerella. It's charming.

333
00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:43,600
Speaker 1: We had our first day there.

334
00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,760
Speaker 2: He ordered an appetizer for us to share and it

335
00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,680
Speaker 2: was fried and I had a very long internal struggle

336
00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,920
Speaker 2: over whether to eat the fried food and let the

337
00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,960
Speaker 2: guy think I was normal, or not eat the fried

338
00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,360
Speaker 2: food and stick to my diet. So that's what I

339
00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,440
Speaker 2: took away from our first date. But we ended up.

340
00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,920
Speaker 2: He decided to stay for the craye and we ended up.

341
00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,960
Speaker 2: I think our third date we had drinks at just

342
00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,720
Speaker 2: like your four Seasons day we had. We had drinks

343
00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,400
Speaker 2: that the man's are in, and that's where we kind

344
00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,720
Speaker 2: of like, we're like, this is this is something real?

345
00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,280
Speaker 4: Well, the second date was good too.

346
00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, the second date was good too, But the third date.

347
00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,640
Speaker 4: Was yeah, that was good. What was your third date?

348
00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,920
Speaker 1: What did you think when you saw her?

349
00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,320
Speaker 7: I don't remember my first impression, but obviously if I

350
00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,400
Speaker 7: went up to her, I was attracted to her.

351
00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,439
Speaker 4: I have to be honest, like, at that point in

352
00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,480
Speaker 4: my life. It was.

353
00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,240
Speaker 7: It was late two thousand and three. I had been

354
00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,600
Speaker 7: drinking a lot for a long time. You're kind of

355
00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,040
Speaker 7: like that stage in your life where you're twenty nine

356
00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,760
Speaker 7: years old and I just saw something that I liked

357
00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,480
Speaker 7: started talking to her, but you know, I was I

358
00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,800
Speaker 7: was drunk. I came straight from the gym. I think

359
00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,240
Speaker 7: I had my gym bag with me too. I was

360
00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:03,480
Speaker 7: wearing that stupid giants hat. But I obviously liked her physically,

361
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,720
Speaker 7: and then getting to talk with her was even.

362
00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,960
Speaker 2: One last story about that night, and then we'll move

363
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,000
Speaker 2: on to Valentine's Day. But so Evan said to Evan

364
00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,400
Speaker 2: values his sleep a lot more than I do. I'm

365
00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,920
Speaker 2: not a big sleeper. Evan is a big sleeper. And

366
00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,680
Speaker 2: so he said to me at a back out eleven

367
00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,240
Speaker 2: thirty or right with it.

368
00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,200
Speaker 1: About eleven thirty, he said, midnight.

369
00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,560
Speaker 2: It was really midnight, and I used to go out

370
00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,119
Speaker 2: until like two in the morning. So he said to me, listen,

371
00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell my buddies that I'm going to

372
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,919
Speaker 2: grab a slice of pizza and then come back. But

373
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you the truth. I'm going home

374
00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,200
Speaker 2: because i want to go to sleep. So he took

375
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,840
Speaker 2: my number whatever, we exchange information, and then he left.

376
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:46,680
Speaker 1: And then one of.

377
00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,680
Speaker 2: His friends comes up to me, like fifteen minutes later,

378
00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,119
Speaker 2: and he goes, listen, I got bad news for you.

379
00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:52,920
Speaker 2: I hope you didn't like that guy, because I think

380
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,959
Speaker 2: I think he gohested you. I think he left. And

381
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,120
Speaker 2: I said, oh, no, I know he's not coming back.

382
00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,600
Speaker 2: I think he lied to you, not to me. And

383
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,520
Speaker 2: he's like, no, no, no, I think he lied to you, and

384
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:02,560
Speaker 2: I said, no, no, no, I.

385
00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:03,280
Speaker 1: Think he lied to you.

386
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 2: Anyway, he never came back, but he did call.

387
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:07,840
Speaker 1: Well listen.

388
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 3: That says a lot Jack, because back in the day,

389
00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,720
Speaker 3: at that age of some guy said that to me,

390
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,280
Speaker 3: I would have been like, all right over, not interested.

391
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,440
Speaker 1: No, I was so interested. I knew.

392
00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:29,439
Speaker 2: I knew my mother would like this one. Tell me

393
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,680
Speaker 2: about your first Do you remember your first Valentine's Day?

394
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,119
Speaker 1: No? Do you know? Really had no idea.

395
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,480
Speaker 2: I remember ours. We went to a place I don't

396
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 2: know if it's still around. It started with a p

397
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,120
Speaker 2: what was it called?

398
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 4: It called public? It was down. I think it was

399
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,480
Speaker 4: probably like in the East village or around there.

400
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wore this pretty flowery dress. I was

401
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 1: so excited.

402
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 2: I don't think i'd ever really had like a real

403
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:59,120
Speaker 2: proper Valentine's Day college my college boyfriends, but not really

404
00:19:59,119 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 2: like an exciting bound.

405
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 7: I remember my first male Valentine's Day. Jeff would appreciate

406
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 7: that men's.

407
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day steaking a blow What is a male Valentine's Day.

408
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 1: I don't know a male Valentine it's like.

409
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 4: Every year.

410
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never heard of.

411
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 2: That, Jeff, of you, I'm not writing it down in

412
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 2: my calendar. It's a steaking a blowjob.

413
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 6: In March twenty third.

414
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 4: That I remember very well. We want the sparks, and then.

415
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 1: Excuse me, the listening public doesn't need to know.

416
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 4: That talking about the Sparks was the steakhouse.

417
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 1: No, I live right down the street from Sparks forty

418
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 1: six and second, Yeah, that's.

419
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,160
Speaker 2: Where so there was like a big mafia murder there right, Yeah,

420
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,199
Speaker 2: outside Sparks.

421
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, very old school for people.

422
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,360
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I just all those those days seem

423
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 3: so long ago. Liked, right, we're making it up because

424
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 3: it just I just picturing that street and Jeff and

425
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 3: I hanging out. I had this apartment that was like

426
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 3: the size of I don't have a room small enough

427
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 3: in my house to show you how small it was.

428
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 3: It paced a brick wall and it was a teeny

429
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 3: tiny little studio. And I kept like in the underwear

430
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 3: in the city forty six and second, I kept my

431
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: underwear under a drawer, in a drawer under my bed,

432
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 3: like something I would pull out. Jeff Fessler thought that

433
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 3: he saved me.

434
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: He had this.

435
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 3: Apartment in Gottenburg, New Jersey. So right, so he bought

436
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: this apartment in this place called the Galaxy, this high

437
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 3: rise views of the city, and he thought that he

438
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: was saving me from this little cell that I lived in.

439
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, loved it. I loved it. I loved having my

440
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 1: own own little space. Was the person I had.

441
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 3: I lived with roommates for years, so it was like mine.

442
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 3: It was my own apartment, and it was just there

443
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 3: was a doorman, it was safe.

444
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 1: I felt.

445
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 3: I just loved living there. And to this day he

446
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 3: just is like, I rescued you. I'm like, no, I

447
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 3: rescued you, Okay, well did you move in?

448
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: So you moved in with.

449
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 3: Him once we got engaged. Yes, yes, that's I was

450
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 3: actually doing it. I was like, I really wanted that ring.

451
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 3: So I was like, listen, I would never ever live

452
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 3: with a guy before I was engaged, like just trying

453
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 3: to pull everything.

454
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 2: Well, I think you need to by the way, I

455
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 2: would advocate for that. I think that you need to

456
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: know if you can.

457
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: Live with somebody well before engagement, well together, what maybe

458
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 3: after engagement you can always.

459
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: Break off and engage. Do you guys work together?

460
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna spend all that money on a ring

461
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: for somebody that you don't know.

462
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: If you can live with. I mean, yeah, I guess, yeah,

463
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

464
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 2: I would advocate for it, but yeah, we we lived together. Well,

465
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: you know, it was like a matter of like like

466
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 2: our leases running out kind of thing, and like what

467
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 2: do you do?

468
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: Do you re sign for another year?

469
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: We'd already been dating for six months, you know, so

470
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 2: do you wait or seven months? Do you wait another year?

471
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: You know at our age, we were already Yeah.

472
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: We engaged. It happened very quickly. Once it happened, like

473
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 3: I was ready. I wanted to get knocked up before

474
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 3: a while. I wanted to nail him in. I was like, really,

475
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 3: oh my god, Like once I realized because I was

476
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 3: thirty and I mean I used to have these dreams,

477
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 3: these baby dreams where I would wake up and just

478
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 3: be so upset that the baby wasn't there, like these

479
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 3: really maternal yeah, like the it really my biological clock

480
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: was loud.

481
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: And so once we got engaged, I was like, let's

482
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: do this. Let's go. I wanted done.

483
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 3: Now, let's go. And then we got married and he's like, well,

484
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: can we travel a little this is all happening. I

485
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: was like, no, we have to get pregnant now, like

486
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,479
Speaker 3: we got pregnant fast everything. Once I knew that it

487
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: was going to be Jeff, I was like, make this

488
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: happen well.

489
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: Evan and I were like, let's travel.

490
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 2: And then it's funny because we got married in August

491
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: of six, right, so February of seven, just a few

492
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 2: months later, we go on vacation and we had planned

493
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: to like wait a little bit before having kids because

494
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 2: I had just turned thirty and I wasn't in a

495
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: huge rush.

496
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: I was a young lawyer.

497
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: And we go to Mexico and I'm laying at the

498
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: pool and there's this old lady laying next to me

499
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 2: and we start talking and she says to me, she

500
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: goes and I told her that I just got married

501
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: a few months ago, she says, when are you going

502
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: to try to have a baby. I said, no, We're

503
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 2: going to travel a little first, and she was Adam

504
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: and she was like, no, do not wait. She actually

505
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 2: happened to live even though I met her in Mexico,

506
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: she happened to live a few blocks from me in

507
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: the city. She was like one of these long time

508
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: Upper West Siders. Side note. I stayed in touch with

509
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 2: her forever until she passed away about two years ago.

510
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: And her name was Lois.

511
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: She was lovely, but she was like one hundred years old,

512
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,479
Speaker 2: and she was like, no, don't wait, you might have

513
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 2: trouble getting pregnant.

514
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: You never know.

515
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: She gave me the name of a doctor and I

516
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: left the pool and I said to Evan, we need

517
00:24:59,520 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: to get fred.

518
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: I didn't now, we need to go see this doctor now.

519
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: I literally made the appointment from Mexico, went as soon

520
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 2: as we came home, and we ended up using that

521
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: doctor and I ended up having problems. So it was

522
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: good that we went. But you know, whatever trajectory brought

523
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: us to having the children that we have was the

524
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: right one one. But we did intend to travel a

525
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: little bit more. I don't think everyone was thrilled with

526
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 2: the timing.

527
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it was all bad that not as

528
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 3: it wasn't as long go as it was longer for

529
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 3: us than it is for you guys. My point is

530
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: that like that time seems so it was so fabulous

531
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 3: and fun and exciting and just feels like another life,

532
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 3: like we have one that we talked about. You know,

533
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 3: we talk about what we're going to talk about before

534
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 3: we actually talk about it here on the pod. So

535
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 3: we said, you know, would you change anything about your wedding?

536
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: That's one of the questions here, right, Yeah, would you

537
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: change anything about our wedding?

538
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 4: Yes? I would have done a destination wedding.

539
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: Really, Oh, I don't think I would with like.

540
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 7: Like four people and then and then God, just because

541
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 7: it's I feel like a wedding is done on behalf

542
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 7: of other people and it's just you don't have to,

543
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 7: you know, you don't have to have a huge wedding

544
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 7: to kind of prove your love for somebody else and

545
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 7: to do all that work, which you did most of it,

546
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 7: like ninety nine percent of it, of finding the flowers,

547
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 7: finding the band, finding everything, and then narrowing it down

548
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 7: to like the three of which I helped choose. I

549
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 7: just think it's a lot of work and a lot

550
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 7: of money for something that you know, the marriage would

551
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 7: be just as strong and you'd have maybe even a

552
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 7: better experience if you'd gotten somewhere.

553
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 4: Exotic to get.

554
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you have a video.

555
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.

556
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to see that.

557
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, the the first first song.

558
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: But for first dance, why what was it?

559
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 6: What was it? It was? It was the Carpenters. We've

560
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 6: only just begun.

561
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: Oh I love that song.

562
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 2: Why would you change it?

563
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 4: Oh?

564
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: Dance? Oh yeah, the first dance.

565
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: Effects at last.

566
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: We had through the years, ironic because we had only

567
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: known each other for like two years.

568
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 3: We wanted he wanted it last, And looking back, I

569
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: hate our wedding song. I chose it because some girl

570
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: who worked it. It's just lunch who was at our wedding,

571
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: but she said, you know what would be a great

572
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: I always wanted this would be the best wedding song.

573
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, okay, And like, looking back,

574
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 3: it just was not the right choice. But yeah, we

575
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 3: always laugh about it when it last comes on.

576
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 2: So we were going to we were going to coordinate

577
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: a dance for our first for our first dance, and

578
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: we went to a dance school together and I am

579
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: not a very good dancer at all. And we had

580
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: a lovely relationship.

581
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: Evan and I were.

582
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: Like deeply, madly in love and never ever fought. We

583
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: still hardly ever find And we went to dance school

584
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: and had the biggest fight, like we just hated every

585
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: second of it.

586
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: Do you remember, Oh my god, I can't believe you

587
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: guys did that. That was so bad.

588
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 2: We could we just could not coordinate and we had

589
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: a big fight and we were like, you know what,

590
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: I forget it. We'll just generically dance. So I was

591
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: saying we did through the Years as our first dance,

592
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 2: which is ironic.

593
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: Because that's also one of my absolute faces. I know.

594
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: But we had only known each other for two years,

595
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,239
Speaker 2: so what through what?

596
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a thing. I know. It's more of an

597
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: anniversary song were we talking about, you know?

598
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: So the thing I would change about our wedding is

599
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: that there were just so many people there that I

600
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: didn't know and that Evan didn't know. Actually, I remember

601
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: sitting at our dais and somebody came over to congratulate us,

602
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: and when they walked away, I said to Evan, who

603
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: is that? And he goes, I don't know, they're on

604
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: your side. I said, no, no, they're on your side.

605
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: We had no idea who happen people there were, so I.

606
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: Feel like we we did, I mean, well like you though, Jackie.

607
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: I was in the throes of an eating disorder at

608
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: the time time, So I do if there's also something

609
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: I would change, Like I could not eat that cake,

610
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: no way, and that was like a whole weird thing.

611
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: And I brought along my own food to my own wedding. Yeah,

612
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: so yeah, like that's what I changed that. I don't

613
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: know would I change anything at all?

614
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: Let us hear so.

615
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 3: But okay, so let's talk about what has changed though

616
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: over the years in terms of you guys, go first,

617
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: So go first. Do you still do you still do

618
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: like romantic stuff?

619
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: How do you keep your like your love like kind

620
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: of like exciting and romantic?

621
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: Jeff Essler, I'll let you answer. Be you still celebrate,

622
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: Let's start with that.

623
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd buy cards, get her some chocolates.

624
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell them about the chocolates. I don't like flowers either.

625
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: Not weird, but also all I ever wanted growing up

626
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: was a little girl was like one of those big

627
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: pink heart shaped boxes chocolate from CBS, like a Russell

628
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: Stoffers with the bows. So he that's like all I

629
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: ever wanted was some was a boy to bring me.

630
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: Well, Aiden's girlfriends about it home, true, because that's what

631
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: I got.

632
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: I love that. So are you That's what I want? Yeah?

633
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: Do you do anything? No, we don't do much. I

634
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: mean like McCard it gets me, okay, yeah.

635
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 6: Get yeah, cards, chocolate's.

636
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: We go out to dinner. We did for a long time. No,

637
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: we really do a long time.

638
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 6: I don't think we ever we did. I don't think

639
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 6: we ever did.

640
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: I mean it's just hard now because like most of

641
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: the time it's on a weeknight. This year it happens

642
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: to be on a Friday night. But even on this

643
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: Friday night, like our older boys have a game at seven,

644
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: and then Alexis wants to go to dinner with her

645
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: little boyfriend, and then Aiden wants to go out to

646
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: dinner with his girlfriend after his game.

647
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: So I mean, when are we gonna go? You know,

648
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: I'll hold your hands at the basketball game. What else

649
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: are we gonna do? You know?

650
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 4: I think that's the best. Yeah, I think that's great, and.

651
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: I think it is what you make it, you know,

652
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: and we could always do it related.

653
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: Well, So these questions that we have also coming you guys,

654
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: are really more about not just Valentine's Day, but like

655
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: relationships are specifically ours and how they've changed over the years.

656
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: And we wrote down a bunch of questions. Jackie actually

657
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: wrote down most of them. I'll give you that credit,

658
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: But like, what do you do to keep the love alive?

659
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 3: Has the meaning of love changed over the years? How

660
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: often do you talk about your relationship to each other?

661
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: I think those are really good questions because ours, our

662
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 3: relationship has certainly evolved. We've been through we've been married

663
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: over twenty five years now, so.

664
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: In what ways?

665
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, whoever watched the Housewives this first season

666
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: I was on, been only on two, but heard me

667
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: talk about the fact that Jeff and I were separated

668
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: for a year and a half. That happened at like

669
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: year seven of our marriage, and for me, I don't

670
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: know that changed things. I'm not recommending this, so whoever's listening,

671
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: I'm not telling you to get separated, but for us,

672
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: I feel like everything changed after that or the better.

673
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: What do you Jeff, do you think.

674
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 5: You appreciate you You appreciate but you don't have anymore.

675
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 5: I mean, you appreciate it more because you've lived through

676
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 5: the fact that you may never have it again and

677
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 5: then and then you get it back.

678
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 1: Not many people do.

679
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: We felt very lucky, right, you are very lucky. Yeah, no,

680
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: I know, we really are. I mean we just couldn't

681
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: make it happen. Like we just neither one of us

682
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: really wanted to go to the lawyer. Neither one was

683
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: really wanted to, you know, and Jeff was Jeff so

684
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 3: like whatever I said, I was like, we would tell

685
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: We would tell the lawyers like I don't care, like

686
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: Jeff will be fair with me, and the lay like,

687
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: oh you don't know.

688
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: That's like, no, no, you don't know. Jeff, Jeff Fessler.

689
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: He's not screwing me and he's not screwing his kids,

690
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: and both we would like try to make an appointment

691
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 3: to go to the lawyer or the media. We would

692
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: blow it off and go like to Chili's and sit

693
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: and just hang out. We just didn't neither one of us,

694
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 3: I think, really wanted to get and.

695
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: Did you have to have like a solid conversation like

696
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: let's just, you know, call off the dogs and get

697
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: back together and move back.

698
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: Remember, Jeff, do you remember that, like us deciding to.

699
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was when wasn't it when I

700
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 5: went to the Jamaica with the kids and you went

701
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 5: to Saint Bart's with my boyfriend?

702
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

703
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: Yes, and.

704
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 6: Yeah and you and you wanted.

705
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: To exactly I so, yeah, they were at like some

706
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: beaches Jamaica and I was at like the Eden Rock

707
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: and Saint Barts. But it just wasn't right and the

708
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: thought of I don't know, this is really not all

709
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: Valentine's That's okay, it's a material and other people go

710
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: through it, so it's real life couple stuff. And yeah,

711
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: so yeah, I just missed them, and I would have.

712
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 3: I just wanted to be at whateverever beaches Jamaica, wherever

713
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: they were. Yeah, that was I guess that was the beginning, right, Yeah,

714
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: this is not.

715
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: Just why where were you before? The same town, same town,

716
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: new house, okay, all right?

717
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: And then like although we had so many good memories

718
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: in that the first house, though, like beginning of our

719
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: marriage is like we had a bad marriage. It started

720
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: to disintegrate a little bit. I guess maybe you're six,

721
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 3: but it's not like we babies.

722
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: It was fun, you know.

723
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well then I think that's maybe a cautionary tale

724
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: that you have to like keep the level, Like you

725
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: have to communicate, you have to tell each other. So

726
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: Evan and I are big on Evan and I are

727
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: big on telling each other I love you. We we

728
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: say I love you when we get off the phone

729
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: with each other, when we see each other, and good morning,

730
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: like we do. We're a big I love you family.

731
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: We're kind of gushy. One of our sixteen year olds

732
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: is pulling away, but the other ones are all like mushy, gushy.

733
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: R Jeff's not mushy, but the rest of the three

734
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: of us are mushy, so he has no choice.

735
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: No, we've turned Evan into a big mushball. But we

736
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: we do.

737
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: You know, I enjoy like a date night.

738
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: We just don't get many of them. It's hard.

739
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 2: You have to prioritize that, and we gets a little

740
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: like life gets very overwhelming. Our kids' schedules are crazy,

741
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: and then you have your own shit, right and like

742
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: so you have to carve out these these times and

743
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 2: these nights to reconnect with each other. We've only had

744
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: like two nights away without kids, like since we've gotten married. Yeah,

745
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: I don't mean like two nights total. I mean like

746
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: two nights in time, maybe like once or twice a year.

747
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have.

748
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 4: A lot of that in a few years, which is great.

749
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: We have.

750
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: Rush.

751
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, so do what do you guys do? What do

752
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: you do with all that empty nest or time? Is

753
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: it easier now to prioritize each other or is it

754
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: harder without the kids there to kind of like glue

755
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: you together.

756
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: Easier?

757
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 3: But also, Jeff, don't you think like it's just saw

758
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 3: something literally on before we came on do this. I

759
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: saw something on TikTok about this guy talking about the

760
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 3: best marriages or the marriages that have companionships, like all

761
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: of that, you know, sparks and the tummy rolling and

762
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: the craziness of when you first fall in love changes period.

763
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: I don't care what anyone says, you don't have that

764
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: for a lifetime with someone. I don't think you guys.

765
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: Maybe you guys do have it, and I just don't

766
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: know that for a lifetime. It just it just changes.

767
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 3: But like now, so when you say prioritize each other,

768
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: even if it's we Jeff and I the kid's gone,

769
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: it's just we like each other so like all the

770
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 3: other stuff, but I just we just have fun together,

771
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: whatever it is. It's like, and we travel together, we

772
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: have fun together, and we're not like all over each other.

773
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 3: I mean we at any given night just in his

774
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: office and I'm upstairs watching TV, right, I mean we

775
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 3: don't like we don't write, but I mean I feel

776
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 3: like somebody said also maybe mel Robins, like I don't

777
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: want to be madly in love. I want to be

778
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: peacefully in love something like that. But I feel like

779
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: that's how our relationship has changed. Like it's just we're

780
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: just more first and foremost above everything else. Like we're

781
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 3: best friends and I'm doing all the talking, Jeff, So

782
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: feel free to jump in. Please tell them all how

783
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: much you would doore me.

784
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 6: You don't have the pressure anymore with the kids.

785
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 5: Not around to like you know, just I mean, you're

786
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 5: you're focused on each other.

787
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: What are your best times together?

788
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 4: Is it?

789
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: Like?

790
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: What are your like when you realize, oh, this is

791
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: the right person for me and we've just you went

792
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: to that.

793
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm curious, Yeah, Like, do you have those moments traveling. Yeah, traveling.

794
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: I was going to say that too.

795
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't get to we haven't gotten to travel

796
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: to too many exotic places. We just started, so we

797
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: went a few places before we had kids, but we

798
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: really just started taking our kids far away. So we

799
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: went to Rome with them last year, and we're going

800
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: to Barcelona with them this year. But those those really

801
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 2: are the best times well with their kids for sure,

802
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: Like by ourselves. We always kind of did because they

803
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 2: always were in Sleepway camp. So we take like least

804
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: one trip the year, Oh you had sleep boy kids.

805
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 2: We don't write we sleep with kids. But we're literally

806
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: ever ever alone. We also have like a bunch of

807
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: friends that go away together always in the summers, and

808
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: we never joined them. Maybe one day I would like to.

809
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 3: But and I feel like though we are so very

810
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 3: specific in the way that we travel together, we are

811
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: exactly on the same rhythm, like you have to be.

812
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: We want to do this much sight seeing. We based

813
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: a whole trip around three meals and this much sight

814
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: seeing and then this much chilling out time. I don't know,

815
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: it's just that those are our best times for sure.

816
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 3: I haven't jump in.

817
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 4: Right about uh no, so I have a philosophical thing.

818
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 7: So I think when you're single, you're like one hundred

819
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 7: percent that's selfish. When you get married, before you have kids,

820
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 7: it's like fifty percent selfish, and then immediately when you

821
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 7: have that first kid, it's like one hundred percent selfless

822
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 7: and zero percent selfish. So what I look forward to,

823
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 7: I'm not trying to rush it, is when the kids

824
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 7: are all in college, because then you can become back

825
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 7: to that.

826
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: Fifty to fifty.

827
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 7: Maybe it's a little bit less because you still have

828
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 7: kids that demands on your time, but the stuff that

829
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 7: I love is yeah, yeah, there's the banality of life

830
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 7: right where a lot of people do the same things

831
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 7: every day and that's fine and that's great, But it's

832
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 7: really traveling and seeing the world and doing it with

833
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 7: someone that you love that's the best.

834
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 4: So you know, that's the best part.

835
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: You know. I would just hope I met my best

836
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: self when I have a good balance of friendships, family, time,

837
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: and work. And right now, you know, also, like work

838
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: is very up in the air. So Jen and I

839
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: were just discussing, like our contracts are up in I

840
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 2: think this.

841
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: Week, this week, oh is it this week?

842
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 4: Job?

843
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, I think, yeah, I think our Bravo

844
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: contracts are up this week. We still don't know what's

845
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: going on with the show.

846
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and either way it'll be fine.

847
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: But you know, like right now, I don't feel like

848
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: I have that career part down because I don't know

849
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: what's going on with the Bravo job, which does take

850
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: up a lot of your time. You know, It's funny

851
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: because when you watch these shows and someone's like, what

852
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: do you do for work? Well, like, it does take

853
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: up a lot of your time and you do get

854
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: paid for it, so that is kind of work, but

855
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: like it's not work because that's what you're You're on

856
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: your job talking about what you do for work, so

857
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, you can't say that

858
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: that's your job, but like in reality, that is a

859
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: large portion of how you.

860
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: Make your money when you're on one of these shows.

861
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: So right now, I don't really feel like I have

862
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: closure with where I am with work until I know

863
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 2: what's going on with well.

864
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 3: I think also, like Jack, you're you're a worker, like

865
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: you always want to have a million things going on.

866
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: I need I need to have a million things going on.

867
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: I like it, but also like our husbands, I think both.

868
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: I think, Evan, you're like this too. But Jeff is

869
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: an insane workaholic and I don't even say that.

870
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm not even.

871
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: It's not like a compliment like oh my husband's he

872
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: just is. He has like a sickness. It's not even.

873
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 3: And I think it stems from this weird financial insecurity

874
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: that for some reason he thinks that any moment we

875
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 3: could be homeless. I don't know what goes on there,

876
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: but anyway, I think that it's the greatest thing when

877
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 3: at least for us, like Jeff is so absorbed in work,

878
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: we're not on of each other as empty nesters like

879
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: he's got and I always had. Yeah, well, I mean,

880
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: what do you think, Evan.

881
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 7: I always want to be busy with some outside pursuit,

882
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 7: whether it's teaching or my current job, definitely, but I

883
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 7: want to start scaling down. So I don't want to

884
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 7: be I don't want to be a seventy five year

885
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 7: old and twenty five years and you know, be working

886
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 7: ten hours a day that's one hundred percent because I

887
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 7: can't take the money with me. I live once. I

888
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 7: don't live for work. I don't live for money. I

889
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 7: don't live for material goods at all. You can probably

890
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 7: tell by the way I dress. What I care about

891
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 7: is relationships and experiences.

892
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 4: That's it.

893
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 7: So you know, one you know, in forty years or whatever,

894
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 7: I'm nearing the end of my life. I wanted to

895
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 7: be with no regrets, but forever I'm not gonna be

896
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 7: able to do that.

897
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: You do need money in order to live the course

898
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: life that you want to live.

899
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 5: I think.

900
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 2: Teachers at Georgetown, I don't. I don't think many people

901
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: know that. Evan teachers two classes this.

902
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 4: Year, well three three three this year actually out.

903
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: I know.

904
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel bad for the students.

905
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I'm sure I feel bad for the females,

906
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: definitely not.

907
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: Don't feel bad for the college students, the female college

908
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: students at the hot professor. Feel bad for the wife exactly.

909
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: But anyway, tell us not back to love. Let's talk

910
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 2: about love because it's a Valentine's episode. So when you, Jeff,

911
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: when you buy Jena gift, does she choose it for

912
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: herself and then you buy it? Or are you good

913
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: at picking this out? And I will wrap this this

914
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: with a story. My friend called me about fifteen years ago.

915
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: She was dating her husband, and she said to me,

916
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. He bought me a

917
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: doonie and burke bag. Do I return it? Or like

918
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: he was trying so hard he went to a department store.

919
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: And I mean, but nobody carries a duney and burke

920
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: bag anymore.

921
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: They'll you know.

922
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 2: So I always advocate for picking out your own gift.

923
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any problem with that. Some people

924
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: think that's horrific. Where are you guys?

925
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 6: Well, I've learned over the years because I would. I

926
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 6: would buy her a gift and she'd be like, I

927
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 6: love it.

928
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 5: I love it, and you know, literally the next day

929
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 5: she'd called me, well, well, you know, you wouldn't mind

930
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 5: if I like take it back and get this or

931
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 5: get And it happened constantly, So now.

932
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: Would you mind? Were you insulted or did you not know?

933
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: No?

934
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 6: No, not at all. So now it's just what do

935
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 6: you want?

936
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

937
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: What do I want?

938
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: But also like it our jeweler, like we have all

939
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: like there's a wish list, so like people come in

940
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 3: and they give their wish lists. Their spouse can come

941
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 3: in or their boyfriend or girlfriend or whatever it is

942
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: and pick something out of that, it's all very manufactured

943
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: and not romantic at all.

944
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: But then you get what you want, so right.

945
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: But then you always have this thing that you can

946
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: look at and remember when they gave it to you.

947
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 2: Like so most of my jewelry or things that Evan

948
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,479
Speaker 2: has given to me, and I've picked most of them out,

949
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 2: but after that one little occasion where you pick it out,

950
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: I forever look at this thing that I love and

951
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 2: I know exactly which occasion he gave it. He got

952
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: it for me, and it's still him getting it, so

953
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: I don't mind it. But I think, uh, we don't

954
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 2: do gifts for Valentine's Day.

955
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: We do gifts for birthdays.

956
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 4: Oh good, good, I got it.

957
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 7: Oh no, yeah, we do get But I once got

958
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 7: you a gift of like a pack of massages. It's

959
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 7: probably like fifteen years ago, and you said, oh, thank you,

960
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 7: thank you. Oh yeah, and it sat there and said

961
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 7: thank you, and you're like, I thought, maybe if she'll

962
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 7: use it, and then you didn't use it, and then

963
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 7: ever since then, I'm like, all right, I'm just going

964
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 7: to differ whatever.

965
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: You want, because I'm really bad with going for like

966
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: five days because it takes up in time tired, and

967
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm not big on being like touched and needed and prodded.

968
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't love that.

969
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: I don't love.

970
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: Jeff doesn't at all. He doesn't like to be touched period,

971
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: full stop.

972
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: You never get a couple.

973
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: This massage not for him.

974
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Evan, do you like massages? I'm like, not that

975
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: into being touched like that.

976
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well it depends what type, but yes,

977
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: I can't. Like.

978
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: We went we went to Mohnk for a weekend.

979
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: You ever go there, mo Honk Monk Mountain, like scrub

980
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: on me and like I was sitting in the scrub

981
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: and I was.

982
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: Like, oh, get it off. It was like twitching. I

983
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: can't do those. I like it.

984
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: I don't get facials. I don't get no facials. I

985
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 2: just started going again. I just started going for facials.

986
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 6: We did that tie massage and Bali on our honeymoon.

987
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: Honeymoon and that miserable.

988
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 6: That was it.

989
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: That was it, because it was also probably a bad idea.

990
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if you'd ever had a massage before,

991
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 3: and it was a kind of massage where they pick

992
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 3: your foot up and basically spin like this insane. I

993
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: loved it. I thought it was great, but yeah, he

994
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 3: was like never again around. No, I'm just saying I'm

995
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,959
Speaker 3: being facetious. I'm saying like they were there, your legs

996
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 3: are up here, and they're moving you on all these

997
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 3: crazy ways.

998
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: But I mean I loved it.

999
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 4: Yeah I love it.

1000
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: I do too, Yeah I do too. But no, that

1001
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 1: was it. That's probably his last Moses.

1002
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: So if you were, if you were talking to so

1003
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: you guys have I think we have two beautiful, solid marriages,

1004
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: which is a lot of my friends are dropping like

1005
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: flies by the way. I find out about a new

1006
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: couple getting divorced constantly. But so I feel very fortunate.

1007
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: I do because I feel like we're we're pretty rock solid.

1008
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: And that's not to say that everything's always perfect, but

1009
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: we're pretty Obviously, if you were talking to a couple

1010
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: just starting out, what pieces of advice would you give

1011
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 2: them about marriage, love, you know, the long haul.

1012
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 5: I would say, I think the biggest thing is to communicate.

1013
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 6: That's what I've learned. You just have to communicate.

1014
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 5: And if you're if you've you know, if you've got

1015
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 5: these feelings and you.

1016
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 6: Know you're not letting them out and not telling your partner,

1017
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 6: you know that I.

1018
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: Don't know what he's talking about right now. When was

1019
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 3: the last time you come communicated with me? I mean,

1020
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: I talk about your feelings. I don't even know what

1021
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 3: you're talking about right now. Communicate I mean.

1022
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 6: Them, But you definitely talk about the feelings, all of them.

1023
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: I do. I Yeah, that's true. I would say that more.

1024
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1025
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: Listen, we don't have the answers. I feel like a

1026
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: lot of what we've got very luckier. But I think

1027
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: that I say this to my daughter all the time,

1028
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 3: not to my son, because he's no interest in what

1029
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 3: I think in this area. But I tell Rachel all

1030
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 3: the time, like more important than what he looks like,

1031
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 3: more important than what he does, more important than like

1032
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: the most important thing is That sounds so obvious, but

1033
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: that is he a nice guy? There's this Jewish word

1034
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 3: you guys who are listening you might not know, called

1035
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 3: is he a mench? And that means is he somebody

1036
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: who actually cares about the people around him the world

1037
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 3: around him?

1038
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: Is he?

1039
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: And I was very got very lucky in that area

1040
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: because I did. There's a lot of guys that were

1041
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: not menches. I was just drawn to not bad guys.

1042
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: I was really drawn to every guy. I was completely

1043
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: boy crazy. But I think that part of why we

1044
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: have work so long. Well, I'm crazy, bitch, And Jeff

1045
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: is such a minch. He's such a good person, he

1046
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 3: is such a good father, he is such a good husband.

1047
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: So he's you know, I am out of my mind

1048
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 3: and but he is rock salt all day.

1049
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: I want that for my daughter.

1050
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: I want her to find a guy that you know,

1051
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: is just a good, devoted mensch, right.

1052
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: Because everything else can change, looks, your job, all of

1053
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: that change. But like the inner I think, I think.

1054
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: What I would tell people well is not to let

1055
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: little fights turn into big fights, right, like put it

1056
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: to bed quickly. Like so when we have like a thing,

1057
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: like we're pretty sure to talk it out or it

1058
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: turns into something bigger, right, What would you tell people?

1059
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 7: Ma, Yeah, so you're you're right, Jeff's right about communication

1060
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 7: and listening. But it's also I think it's perspective, right,

1061
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 7: So if you have a little fight, nothing's ever like

1062
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 7: a straight line up of greatness. And Jackie makes a

1063
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 7: lot of mistakes and I always forgive her for them,

1064
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 7: but no, when I'm crazy to right, but when you

1065
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 7: when you have something that you disagree, and there's kind

1066
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 7: of a step back in the relationship the right perspective

1067
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 7: of understanding the main things of is this a good person?

1068
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 7: Is this somebody that you want to be with the

1069
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 7: rest of your life, which you know has never changed

1070
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 7: in my eyes, it's always been yes, just remembering all

1071
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 7: the good stuff and the key things, because when little

1072
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 7: things come up, I think more people than not probably

1073
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 7: take them and kind of lead to a dangerous path,

1074
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 7: whereas you've got to realize you just got to let

1075
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 7: it go and realize that you know, there there are

1076
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 7: waves in the ocean, so to speak.

1077
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know what, if we ever do have

1078
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: a time, I look at my kids and they all

1079
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: really look a lot like Evan. They've got a mix

1080
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: of both of us, but some of their strongest features

1081
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: are Evan's, and like I just I love them so

1082
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: much and I look at them and I see his face,

1083
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 2: you know, and I realize, like nothing is worth like

1084
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 2: having like any kind kind of like dispute within your family,

1085
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 2: Like that's your people. This is your safe like place

1086
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: of love, right, and like don't let anything from the

1087
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: outside world fuck that up, right, And so that's what

1088
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: always come back to I know, I came.

1089
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: From divorce, a lot of divorce.

1090
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,479
Speaker 3: I was the child of multiple divorces, and Jeff grew

1091
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: up with the greatest parent, very just this it was him,

1092
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 3: and it was his sister, and it was his two parents,

1093
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: and they just we came from such different worlds, and like,

1094
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 3: I wanted that so badly. I think I lost sight

1095
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: of that at some point during our marriage, and that

1096
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 3: led to what it led to. But like, I feel

1097
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 3: very lucky to have this family and like this man

1098
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 3: who loves my kids as much as I do. And

1099
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 3: I'm not saying people shouldn't get divorced, because there's certainly many, many,

1100
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 3: many cases where it's better to get divorced than stay together.

1101
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 3: I truly believe that you don't always just stay together,

1102
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 3: but if if you can, it is there is something

1103
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: so fabulous to be said for it right to be.

1104
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: I know, my parents haven't lived together in twenty five years.

1105
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: They're very happily married, more happily married now.

1106
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: That they don't live together. That's so interesting.

1107
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 2: Did live together, Yeah, a lot of fighting when I

1108
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 2: grew up. Now not so much fighting because they don't

1109
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: know where the hell each other are half the time,

1110
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 2: so it works out.

1111
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: But this is nice. Thank you boys for joining us.

1112
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 4: Thank you for having us.

1113
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: Jeff, thank you Evan. Happy Valentine's Day to you guys

1114
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: and Jeff. Valentine's Day. What'd you get me? Honey? What'd

1115
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: you get me?

1116
00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: Hi?

1117
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 6: What do you want?

1118
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 4: Oh?

1119
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 6: I already got it, already.

1120
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: Got on the registry at the jeweler.

1121
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 3: Yes, and Russell stopers, please pink box, lots of bows.

1122
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: All right, Thank you guys, You.

1123
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: Guys, sign off. You guys, chat with miss fassel Hair.

1124
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 3: Very cute, You're cute, very lucky, very lucky.

1125
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: I hope that our kids a lot of fine, a

1126
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: lot of people dropping like flies. And I do I

1127
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: do think like if you're in a bad marriage, that

1128
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: that's probably the way to go.

1129
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: You know. I don't advocate for like stay married no

1130
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: matter what at all, Like I just think it's it's

1131
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: fabulous to have this deal with that.

1132
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, but I mean that's not always the answer.

1133
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 3: I think it's better for your kids if you're miserable

1134
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: to not to get to be Yes.

1135
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 2: Probably is your mom remarried now? Yes, he's married.

1136
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: Now? How long have you been with her husband? Now?

1137
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: So twenty oh, that's time. So this was the one.

1138
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: This is the beast few years married.

1139
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 3: Well, my mom and my dad got divorced when I

1140
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 3: was very young, like three, and my sister was two,

1141
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 3: and then they both remarried and then that marriage did

1142
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 3: not work out for either of them. But then my

1143
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: mom got remarried again and he died. Oh and right,

1144
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 3: so and then my dad got married again and they

1145
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 3: got divorced. I mean, that's a whole other We could

1146
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 3: do a different pod on this, but.

1147
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: I experience a divorce, not in my parents, not in me. Nothing. Yeah,

1148
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: no experience of it.

1149
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: And I think also divorces, people are doing them in

1150
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 3: a way that's way better, I hope. I think better

1151
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: for the kids now. I think, like people, there's a

1152
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: lot of lessons that have been learned over the years

1153
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 3: about divorce, what not to do. And when we were separated,

1154
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: neither one of us would say one what bad word

1155
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 3: about the other one. I mean, oh really, I loved

1156
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: each other.

1157
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: Year and right.

1158
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 2: The things I saw were just I mean, these divorces

1159
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: were bad. I was at a very wealthy Park Avenue

1160
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: divorce firm. I had clients, a lot of wives who

1161
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: were a lot younger than their very wealthy husbands. It

1162
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: was their first marriage, but their husband's like fourth marriage.

1163
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: And you know, it was sad a lot of times sad,

1164
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: and I just hated like when the kids were involved.

1165
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 3: So it was sad, you know. So it was not

1166
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 3: it's just not divorced. I mean as being you know,

1167
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 3: a kid of divorced. Definitely, definitely not easy. Yeah, well,

1168
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 3: let's not talk about divorce. Talk about Valentine's Day. Yeah,

1169
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 3: Valentine's Day to you any Galentines with your girlfriends. I

1170
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 3: just did a Salentines which I I you know, I

1171
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: had this partnership now with the Avenue at American Dream.

1172
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah about them.

1173
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 3: But I so I am working with the Avenue, which

1174
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 3: is that luxury wing of American Dream, and and just

1175
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 3: trying to I don't think people in Bergen County specifically

1176
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 3: or in the city really know. And for all of you,

1177
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 3: all of those of you who are not listening, who

1178
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 3: are listening and don't live in one of those places,

1179
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 3: this is gonna be fast and working with them anyway

1180
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 3: to sort of like show people how fabulous this area

1181
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 3: of the mall is. It's all the luxury stores it's

1182
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 3: champagne and caviar bar and this unweavil restaurant called Carpacias.

1183
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.

1184
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: I did this promo and I talked about Salentine's Day.

1185
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: Salentine's Day made up is self love. Oh I love

1186
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 3: that my bag right, yeah, I took myself right to

1187
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 3: the mall by my little self, took myself out to lunch.

1188
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: Was fabulous.

1189
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 3: And no, I don't know, I don't need Gallantines things

1190
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 3: going on to you.

1191
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got two of them this week, but we'll see.

1192
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: Its supposed to fun.

1193
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fun.

1194
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: I enjoy it.

1195
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 2: I think I like the Galentines better than the Valentine.

1196
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 2: I'll just be like sitting, you know. I like being

1197
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 2: with my girlfriends.

1198
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah that my.

1199
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: Kids are a little less sneedy, know, I enjoy going

1200
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 2: out with my girlfriends. So yeah, and you know, but

1201
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: Valentine's we don't really have any plans. But anyway, Happy

1202
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: Valentine's Toe you Happy Valentine's Day from two Jersey Jays.

1203
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: From two Jersey Jays, and we will see you guys

1204
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: next time. Enjoy your day, guys. Bye, Hope you get

1205
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: lots of gifts. Bye,