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Speaker 2: I enjoyed that it's Mina Kimes. Welcome.

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Speaker 3: I think the biggest NFL news of the week is

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Speaker 3: the launch of NFL Daily, at least in my world.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited for this new venture for you. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: I was so excited every time I got to go on,

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Speaker 3: of you as someone whose opinion on football I not

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Speaker 3: So I'm excited to hear what you do in this space.

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Speaker 2: You're too nice. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I appreciate you saying that, because I know

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Speaker 1: I've heard you on podcasts say you don't like at

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Speaker 1: faff Yeah for five minutes, and we're doing that, So

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Speaker 1: for you to say that, if it shows you really

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Speaker 1: friendship than that. So I'm really excited to have you

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Speaker 1: for the first week before you get ultra busy, although

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Speaker 1: I know you're already busy now, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: do a loose camp preview kind of look ahead to

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Speaker 1: the season, just a way to hit every AFC team today.

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Speaker 1: I just want to start getting takes out there, get

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Speaker 1: to all the fan bases. We'll hit the NFC tomorrow

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Speaker 1: with your friend Bill Barnwell, and we'll pick what's the

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Speaker 1: most intriguing storyline we're looking forward to for each team,

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Speaker 1: So we'll split it up by divisions. I'll do the

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Speaker 1: AFC East. I'll just get us going, no more faff

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Speaker 1: and I'll start with the Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: because Josh Allen is my most intriguing storyline. And by

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Speaker 1: that I just kind of mean what Josh Allen we

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Speaker 1: see this year, because I think we have this tendency

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Speaker 1: with great quarterbacks that like, Okay, he's great, now he

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Speaker 1: just stays there, Like Josh Allen's great, That's an accepted

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Speaker 1: thing we know about him, and I do expect him

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Speaker 1: to stay great. But he's the type of quarterback to

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Speaker 1: me that's gonna have different versions of great. And he's

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Speaker 1: streaky even within seasons, within games. He talked this week

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Speaker 1: actually about really changing his throwing mechanics, and I've thought about, like,

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Speaker 1: how does Joe Brady wind up making him better? And

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Speaker 1: we know how the offense changed last year during the season,

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Speaker 1: and now you look what they added and it's Kean Coleman,

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Speaker 1: the running game, and like, how do they how does

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's development fit into all this, and especially as

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Speaker 1: like a fan of his running at twenty eight years old,

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Speaker 1: how does Joe Brady work in his you know, amazing

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Speaker 1: he's not going to stay the same. Some guys stay

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Speaker 2: So what kind of Josh Allen are we going to

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Speaker 4: I think a good one. I think he'll be fine.

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Speaker 4: And obviously it's not a bold take to say Josh

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Speaker 2: Like what's in style? You know?

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Speaker 3: You talked about this, you know, Josh Allen setting up

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Speaker 3: you know, bombs away gunslinger. And yes, he definitely has

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Speaker 3: not hard for me to imagine Josh Allen executing it.

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Speaker 1: Well. No, and it's just the details. And it changed

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Speaker 1: But yeah, as averaged up, the target went way down

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Speaker 1: and it's just a reminder to me, like I expect

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Speaker 2: All right, let's let's go.

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Speaker 1: When we first talked about this, we thought about just

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Speaker 1: It's just how the receivers shake out. I know you

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Speaker 2: People should check that out.

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Speaker 1: And I was curious what he would say to your

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Speaker 1: what's the starting group who's going to get the most snaps?

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Speaker 3: at kJ Osborne.

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Speaker 1: But just the top three, like they have like seventeen guys.

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Speaker 3: They have a lot of receivers who if any of

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Speaker 3: card for this Niners team, right, But on a Patriots

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Speaker 3: And I say that as someone who really likes Jalen

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Speaker 3: Polk loved Washington watching him pardon me at Washington, which

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Speaker 3: skill set aligns really well with Drake May whenever he

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Speaker 1: Like we got Hunter Henry back and you shouldn't say we.

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Speaker 1: And I avoided talking about Drake May just because I

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Speaker 2: There's only so much to talk about.

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned, this show is daily, so that's going

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Speaker 1: to be an interesting challenge, and I'm going to talk

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Speaker 1: so much Drake May that I didn't.

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Speaker 3: Austin Hooper is like on the NFL All Star Team

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Speaker 3: of desperation streams in fantasy, where you're down like.

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Speaker 4: Two tight ends. You just got to field someone.

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Speaker 3: And you're looking at the waiver wires and they're just

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Speaker 2: You're just hoping three for thirty to go Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: What I'm mostly Cheegbaye is McDaniel in September. It used

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Speaker 1: But I think some of the idea that like Dolphins

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Speaker 1: haven't stolen yet. Like we saw it with the speed

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Speaker 1: I just want to see what he's got going because

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Speaker 1: I kind of think they need a good September. There

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Speaker 4: Will, or Galaxy Brain might be.

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Speaker 3: Daniel saves it all temper and rolls out like a

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Speaker 3: like the Dolphins come out.

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Speaker 4: It's Week one.

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Speaker 3: I forget who they're playing in Week one. It's I

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Speaker 3: think it's maybe the chart. It's a good matchup. I

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Speaker 3: think they're in an eye formation. There's just it's they're.

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Speaker 4: Just handing it off to do on Ahan on first out.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's so confused.

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Speaker 3: People have prepared for high flying offense, all kinds of

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Speaker 1: That's one way to go. I mean, that would be

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Speaker 1: next level thinking. I do worry about this team if

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Speaker 1: this is a highly likely team to I feel like,

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Speaker 1: implode in many ways if that happened. I'm high enough

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Speaker 1: on the Dolphin. They're playing the Jags by the way

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Speaker 1: Week one.

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Speaker 2: I like that matchup. I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to see it.

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Speaker 3: I think, though, what's going to be hard, and what

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Speaker 4: But I don't know if he's going to solve any

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Speaker 4: All of that. In the disguise.

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Speaker 1: Because it's faster, absolutely, specially that last one, and that

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Speaker 4: But it's a really small sample size.

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Speaker 3: All right, Bengals might be a little bit kurveball. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think, bro, will you know, I think the offense

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Speaker 3: is kind of going for a last dancing with t Higgins.

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Speaker 3: I think they'll be about the same as they've been.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about the defense though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm skeptical.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those things where we have this idea

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Speaker 1: of how good Lou and Rimo is, and that's what

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Speaker 1: I mean about sometimes credit with coaches, like, of course

445
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Speaker 1: she's he is a good coach. But there's such a

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Speaker 1: fine line, especially a defensive play, secondary play, and a

447
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Speaker 1: team in Cincinnati that really relies on their red zone

448
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Speaker 1: defense and short yardage defense. E've been so good in

449
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Speaker 1: situations that if a few things happen, you lose it.

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Speaker 1: But I look at them and like, I like it.

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Speaker 1: I like their defensive line. They have a strong candidate

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Speaker 1: to bounce back. Logan Wilson and Jermaine Pratt like their

453
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Speaker 1: linebackers really struggled last year and their their candidates to

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Speaker 1: bounce back.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't have huge concerns.

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Speaker 1: I'm more concerned that you know, the Titans looked at

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Speaker 1: Tobia Wuzier and thought like that's a guy that deserves

458
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Speaker 1: big money coming off that year. So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of reasons to believe the Bengals are going to be

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Speaker 1: better this year, and to me, this is at worse

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Speaker 1: than average defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I did like Gino Stone, who I talked about leaving Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: Von Bell didn't. He looked a little bit like a

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Speaker 4: player in decline last season. To bring him back.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's asking a lot. If he's not maybe

467
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Speaker 1: he's the third or fourth safety.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's a little bit tricky, but I

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Speaker 3: think you're right that they'll be closer to average. Certainly.

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Speaker 1: I apologize by the way. You know, this is your

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Speaker 1: first time on the show. It's just the two of us.

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Speaker 1: I'll just cut you off there, and I'm like making

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Speaker 1: you host essentially by introducing East team, but I will

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Speaker 1: not make you throw it a break. We are overdue

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Speaker 1: to take a break, so we're going to do one

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Speaker 1: more team in the AFC North when we get back

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Speaker 1: from the break, and then we.

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Speaker 2: Will hit the other two divisions back on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: You know, what do you think of us going heavy

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Speaker 1: NFL films? I like it in the mood, and it's

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Speaker 1: free and we have access to a million of these songs.

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Speaker 4: It adds a lot of weight to this July typing.

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Speaker 1: I know it's like I need I need the reps.

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Speaker 1: We need the reps, and I was ready to get

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Speaker 1: back to it. We uh have been talking about most

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Speaker 1: intriguing storylines each team. It's probably going to annoy people

487
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Speaker 1: who are like OCD about it, but we have one

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Speaker 1: AFC North team left.

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Speaker 2: We had to get that break in Mina. What do

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Speaker 2: you got?

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Speaker 4: It didn't annoy me, but I've been reeling over.

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Speaker 2: The last five I was just overdue. I was overdue

493
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Speaker 2: to take it. I should have done it before.

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Speaker 3: Clock management, in my experience, is the hardest part of hosting.

495
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Speaker 3: I was really the Andy Reid of podcast hosts for

496
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Speaker 3: like four years. It took me that long to get

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Speaker 3: it right. So you're fine, you're getting these reps in.

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Speaker 3: This is training camp for you. Really okay, the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: See again, I'm so discombobulate. I'm like, wait, scroll back up,

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Speaker 3: scroll back down. This is I don't want to do

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Speaker 3: too much coaching stuff, but.

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Speaker 2: Do what you want.

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Speaker 3: I am really intrigued by what an Arthur Smith offense

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Speaker 3: looks like with either Justin Fields or Russell Wilson. And

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Speaker 3: I know that the probably I'm being a little bit

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Speaker 3: hipster because the correct answer is just who the hell

507
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Speaker 3: is going to be Who's gonna win this quarterback competition.

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Speaker 3: My suspicion is it'll be Russ at the start of

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Speaker 3: the season and we'll see what happens. But the thing,

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Speaker 3: the reason why I say either or is they're pretty

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Speaker 3: similar quarterbacks and a lot of their tendencies, a lot

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Speaker 3: of their strengths and weaknesses. I think Fields gives you

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Speaker 3: more upside, Russ gives you more consistency. That's not a

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Speaker 3: controversial take. In some ways, I can see it dovetailing

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Speaker 3: with Arthur Smith. We think about the hard play action,

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Speaker 3: throwing deep, whatnot, but in a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of ways it kind of doesn't. So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I like the skill players for his offense. I love

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Speaker 3: this run game, I love what they've done with the

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Speaker 3: offensive line. But I'm curious to see how he accommodates

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Speaker 3: these two quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: And he's going to want his quarterback to move to

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Speaker 1: some degree. Russ does look trim, looks looks like he's

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Speaker 1: in good shape, moved better last year certainly than the

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Speaker 1: year before, which I think helped them in Denver. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think this team is I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's a sleeping giant. And I always worry

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Speaker 1: about the teams that as this off season goes on.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't love them at the very beginning of

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Speaker 1: the off season. Now I'm like, are the Steelers going

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Speaker 1: to win this division? It wouldn't totally shock me. Quarterbacks

532
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Speaker 1: obviously the biggest issue, and the depth of the wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: But even though they are similar in their strengths and

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Speaker 1: their weaknesses, like one of them's fireworks and to me,

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Speaker 1: and that's justin fields and he really might not be ready,

536
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Speaker 1: and he might never be as consistent as you want

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Speaker 1: to be. But one of them just authored one of

538
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Speaker 1: the greatest, maybe the greatest running seasons by a quarterback ever.

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Speaker 2: It was just a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: And he's just adding such an advantage to me in

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Speaker 1: what should be an awesome pulling running game that like

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Speaker 1: that alone, I want to see it.

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Speaker 2: But maybe rest can take advantage of that too.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I would vastly prefer to see that.

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Speaker 3: I want to be clear, Like I mean, if I'm

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Speaker 3: Arthur Smith, I think about what I did with Marcus

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Speaker 3: Mariota on the ground, and when the Falcons had one

548
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Speaker 3: of the most dominant runishing attacks in football that season,

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Speaker 3: and I look at what Justin Fields is capable of,

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Speaker 3: and like you said, what the rest of these the

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Speaker 3: backs and the line. I mean, there's a recipe there

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Speaker 3: for an offense that is really really annoying for defenses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think I think they can play

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Speaker 1: conservatively because I think the defense is going to be

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Speaker 1: really good. I know you believe you had them on

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Speaker 1: your top ten defenses, right, yes, yeah, let's go to

557
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Speaker 1: the AFC South the Texans. I'm just on digs honeymoon watch.

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Speaker 1: Like I thought about some it's like run game concepts

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Speaker 1: or Demigo Ryans' way of like taking average players and

560
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Speaker 1: making them better. But just as like a guy that does,

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Speaker 1: I do enjoy the drama of it all. The fact

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Speaker 1: that he said more nice things about Josh Allen and

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Speaker 1: the Bills in that opening press conference, and I know

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Speaker 1: this was on Bill's fans radars.

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Speaker 2: Then he then ever happened in Buffalo and it just

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Speaker 2: and he did.

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Speaker 1: You think it was a relief for him to get

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Speaker 1: out of there and he was happy and we see

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Speaker 1: this receivers. I just think it's gonna be like an

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Speaker 1: amazing honeymoon season. Not that I is that worried about

571
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Speaker 1: like his attitude or anything like that. But I still

572
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Speaker 1: think he can get open and I think he's just

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot, and I think that team's gonna

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Speaker 1: want him to be a lot, And I think the

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Speaker 1: combination of him and Stroud off the field could be

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Speaker 1: fun too, just like press conferences everything, And we've just

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Speaker 1: seen this with great receivers that first year, and I

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Speaker 1: think he's still good enough to take advantage is just

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Speaker 1: fun in front of the microphone. It's gonna be fun

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Speaker 1: on the field, and he's gonna have great players around

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Speaker 1: him that obviously helps him a lot.

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Speaker 3: What if it's week six, Nico Collins not only is

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Speaker 3: the leading target getter in this offense, but he is

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Speaker 3: the clear number one outpacing Staph two to one.

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Speaker 1: I mean two to one is dramatic. That would be

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Speaker 1: a problem. Then the honeymoon is ending.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then I'm like, how about this press conferences?

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Speaker 2: Now? How do we see that they won't let that happen?

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Speaker 1: And I guess I'm of the camp that Digs is

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Speaker 1: not cooked, that he's killed. There's a variety of factors

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Speaker 1: or even even that in that much of a decline,

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Speaker 1: and so to me, I expect Nico Collins and Stephan

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Speaker 1: Diggs to be in the same ballpark, But I actually

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Speaker 1: think the coordinator the quarterback are too emotionally intelligent to

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Speaker 1: ever let that happen, And Diggs is good enough that

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't let that happen either.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I hear you.

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Speaker 3: I think I just don't want his inclusion, and this

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Speaker 3: sort of effort to feed him and make him feel

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Speaker 3: wanted come at the expense of Nico Collins, who I

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Speaker 3: think is really really good.

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Speaker 1: So if Diggs is as good as I think he

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Speaker 1: still is, it's the best receiver in kank Delle's healthy.

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Speaker 1: It's the best receiver trio easily, because I'm totally with

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Speaker 1: you on Nico. He's a top twenty five guy. I

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Speaker 1: thought that was maybe the best contract of the off season.

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Speaker 1: It was really eighteen per It's just kind of crazy.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Colts. My intriguing storyline. We'll see

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Speaker 1: a little bit in camp. It's kind of how fast

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Speaker 1: is this eighty Mitchell thing is going to happen. I

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Speaker 1: generally don't try to buy into any offseason hype. If

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Speaker 1: you were making an article and I used to do

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Speaker 1: this of like Ota Mini Camp winners, like he's on

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Speaker 1: that list. Everyone that was there was like, okay, he

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Speaker 1: was ready to go, and it was against air and

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Speaker 1: not really you know every concept you want to think

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Speaker 1: you see. But I think in terms of knowing what

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Speaker 1: he was doing and what and just going up against

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Speaker 1: NFL cornerbacks, everything that we heard from the Colts was

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Speaker 1: very positive. So there's a lot of reason to believe

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Speaker 1: he'll start right away over Alec Pierce. And if he's

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Speaker 1: actually a dude right away, that's not a bad trio

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Speaker 1: either with Down's and Pittman, that's a nice one.

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Speaker 3: It's it's not just an average trio or even not bad.

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Speaker 3: If Ad gets Ayara close to his ceiling, I think

626
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Speaker 3: it's excellent because he would have a force multiplier effect.

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Speaker 3: Everybody falls into the right role. Those three players, him,

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Speaker 3: Michael Pittman Jr. And Josh Downs, they all fit really

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Speaker 3: well together, working different parts of the field, very different

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Speaker 3: skill sects. With Ad being your put typical number one,

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Speaker 3: who can you know he can win deep, he has

632
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Speaker 3: great hands, he's got the athleticism. It just didn't have

633
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Speaker 3: like the consistency as a prospect, which is why you

634
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Speaker 3: think you fell. But if he hits where he's capable of,

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Speaker 3: that is a really really fun group.

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Speaker 1: It just felt like it was maturity, maturity, maybe more

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Speaker 1: just on the field than anything that was specific off

638
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Speaker 1: that like teams.

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Speaker 2: Just it just helped.

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Speaker 1: It made him fall, Like a lot of receivers got

641
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Speaker 1: drafted before Adie Mitchell considering how talented he was. But

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Speaker 1: sometimes those guys when it's their livelihood and they can

643
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Speaker 1: often be like he might be very NFL smart. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like he can pick up concepts and stuff that

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Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with that side of maturity.

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Speaker 2: And if he can do that, like he's gonna be great, like.

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Speaker 4: A George Pickens style arc.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, potentially, it's a good comp My Jaguars pick is

649
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Speaker 1: about the coach. It's the defensive coordinator, Ryan Nielsen. I

650
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: listened to the Jack on SI podcast used to be

651
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Report.

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00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: It's really good. John Shipley is one of the good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, heem beat reporters out there. He does an awesome job.

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Speaker 1: And look they've been talking like Nielsen like he's come

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Speaker 1: to save the day and he has exciting concepts, and

656
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: I agree when you hear him talk and I think

657
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: compared to their last defensive coordinator, there is a lot

658
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: of reason to be excited. Can he add like a

659
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: big time schematic advantage because I still look at the

660
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: roster and I'm not I'm not thrilled if they're average,

661
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: like that's okay. And I know some of the numbers

662
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: weren't bad last year, but I do think Nielsen was

663
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: like a hipster favorite because he did a lot of

664
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Speaker 1: cool stuff. And you know, it depends what numbers you

665
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: look at. The Falcons overachieved, but some other ones they

666
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: really weren't very good. He does fun stuff. He could

667
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: be a guy that eventually gets, you know, some head

668
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: coaching love. So it's like, is Ryan Nielsen as good

669
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: as maybe Jaguars fans and NFL hipster's.

670
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: Hope he is.

671
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: I think there's a really strong opportunity for him as

672
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: someone who if he wants to be a head coach.

673
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 4: I'm guessing he does.

674
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Speaker 3: Because unlike Atlanta, he's got all the talent in the

675
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: world upfront in Jacksonville. But it's one of those teams

676
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: kind of like Green Bay, where like everyone looks at

677
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: them and they see the talent, but the talent hasn't

678
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 3: played up to certainly a draft status. There's a number

679
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: of guys there outside Josh Allen, Josh Heines Allen.

680
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: Sorry freaking news. Thank you. I'm glad you pointed that out.

681
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: I think just came out this week, Josh Heinz Allen,

682
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: and one of the reasons was he's sick of being

683
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: the other Josh Allen.

684
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a w for quarterback Josh Allen.

685
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: You get to keep the name, to be honest, but

686
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: I mean for.

687
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: It to happen after the Josh Heines Allen had almost

688
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: twenty sacks in the Monster Contract and really kind of

689
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: made his name and.

690
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: He's still is giving it up. It's a nice moment.

691
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 3: He had nice family reasons for doing it. But anyways,

692
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's great. Outside of Josh Allen, a lot of

693
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: underperformance on the defensive line. So I think for like Nielsen,

694
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: if you can be that coach who's like, oh, he

695
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: came in and he finally got you know, he found

696
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: the right way to use Javon Walker and these linebackers.

697
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd is living up to his draft stats, which

698
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: you know maybe happens anyways, with off all linebackers and

699
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: later in there, you know, after the rookie season, then

700
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: I think that this could be a unit and a

701
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: coach that a lot of people are talking about, no doubt.

702
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cornerback position is what worries me. Tyson Campbell's

703
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: a good player. But after that, you know, they gave

704
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: Ronald Darby day one free agency money to start a cornerback,

705
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: which was surprising. They have I think a third round

706
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: pick Ery and Jones might be the slot and so

707
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna have to cook up some stuff.

708
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: But I'm watching that. Uh.

709
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: Last in the AFC South is that the Titans. And

710
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: it's just the uh, the effect of Bill Callahan, one

711
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: of the great position coaches of all time.

712
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: Why are you laughing cause you were.

713
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 4: Like, oh, we talked too much about coaches. I feel

714
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: like half of your picks have been coaching.

715
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Speaker 2: Can I say that, I don't know. I just I

716
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: didn't say we.

717
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 4: Talked too much credit to coaches.

718
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 1: Yes, that is one of my long standing takes that

719
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: like there's more coaches.

720
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Speaker 2: In the middle.

721
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: They're all I'm saying, you know, they're all good, and

722
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: it's like you we look at the results and we

723
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 1: just put it all on the coaches and all the players.

724
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: It's like there's variants, there's players. You know.

725
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: Anyways, Bill Callahan, though, I mean, you've got to agree,

726
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: he's a pretty big difference maker.

727
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 4: It's big.

728
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 3: I mean, because the offensive line is clearly the weakness

729
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 3: of this team. It made the offense at times non

730
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: functional last season. They obviously continued to invest in it

731
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: draft the first pick, and it would be the thing

732
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 3: that holds his offense back well aside from Will Levis,

733
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: but he is a quarterback who we see affected by pressure,

734
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 3: so you can use it as a proxy. It's a

735
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: very talented group of wide receivers. I'm very intrigued by

736
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: the combination of Well Levis and Callahan.

737
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 4: I'm intrigued by the fact that they seem to believe in.

738
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Speaker 3: Will Levis and they're betting on him with all the guy.

739
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nate Tye, I mean I kind of do too.

740
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: I see it.

741
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: He is the type of guy I fall in love

742
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: with because his highs have been pretty exciting. I'm talking

743
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: about Levis, not Nate Tye.

744
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm in love with Nate Taste.

745
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: His sighs are exciting.

746
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: There's kind of a coaching treat too. With Bill Callahan.

747
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: Right now he's got his assistant or old assistant from

748
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: Cleveland is now the Patriots offensive line coach. So they're

749
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: just hoping that that Callahan magic can because he's installing

750
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: some of the same concept Scott Peters can do it,

751
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: but for real, like an offensive line coach when when

752
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: Mike Munchak sorry was one of those guys. Is just

753
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: one of the most valuable uses of money you can

754
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: possibly have for like the quality that you.

755
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: Get out of it.

756
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: And these players aren't that bad like Scarronsky, JC Latham

757
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: and Lloyd Cushenberry.

758
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: That center to the left side could be that could

759
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: be pretty good. It would be pretty good.

760
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 3: I think there's nothing better to be from like a

761
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 3: coverage standpoint than an offensive line coach. He's regarded as

762
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 3: a guru because none of us know what we're talking about.

763
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 4: With offensive you can see it.

764
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Speaker 5: You're like, oh, the loss of Dante's grner Yell looms large,

765
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 5: or oh the Mike munchhag effect or Bill Callahan, like

766
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 5: once you once these guys become like dudes Aaron Cromer

767
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 5: and Buffalo, we just remember and then when we see

768
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 5: them playing well because I think, you know, there's a

769
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 5: little bit of a binary.

770
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 4: Did they pasper hold up?

771
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: Did it not?

772
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 4: Are they getting pushed? Are they not?

773
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: You know, as opposed to like just technique or whatnot.

774
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: I will give a lot of credit to a guy

775
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: who I've heard it's good.

776
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: Like that's fair.

777
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: I like you poking at me, But how dare you

778
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: besmirch the name of Dante Scarnacia. I don't know that

779
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: it's only a couple of these coaches and it's like, yeah,

780
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: the run everywhere he guys. So it's just how can

781
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: you question it? Let's do one more break? It's nice

782
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: and even after the division, we are going to wrap

783
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: things up with AFC West.

784
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: And then just a little something sprinkled extra at the.

785
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: Just like know when the music swells that someone just

786
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: broke a tackle and is running into the open field.

787
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 1: When I hear that back on NFL Daily with Mina Chimes,

788
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: going through the AFC and just what we're intrigued by

789
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: heading into training camp next week, Texans are showing up,

790
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: some rookies are showing up elsewhere.

791
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 2: Early in the week.

792
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens might be the Weirdly the first

793
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: team that do that. You're gonna help me out here,

794
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: Mina by picking what you like in the AFC West.

795
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: I will start with the defending champs because sort of

796
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: picking knits with them when you're looking for areas of concern,

797
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I go with something to be excited about,

798
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: no doubt. I'm excited to watch their rookie Daviere Worthy.

799
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see the offense. But like as far

800
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 3: as like things I'm intrigued by, I want to see

801
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: how much the laws Lagerious Need affects this defense. I

802
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 3: understand why they moved on. They essentially picked Chris Jones

803
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: to prioritize that contract. It makes sense, and I understand

804
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: anyone who conviction in not only the young players who

805
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: have gotten some gotten some decent run over the last

806
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: few years, the young corners rather, but also the fact

807
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 3: that they the fact that they have the best defensive

808
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 3: coordinator in football is one of their biggest edges and

809
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: a big reason why they have this dynasty. That said,

810
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 3: I object to anyone who doesn't believe Lugarious Need was

811
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: unbelievable last year.

812
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 4: He was an easy All Pro vote for me.

813
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 3: I thought he had an amazing season, the way they

814
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: were able to deploy him against number one wide receivers,

815
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 3: the way his ability to press impacted their ability to

816
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: get pressure, and some of the types of pressures they ran.

817
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 3: He was very very important to this defense. And I

818
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: think they'll be finest. Also think they'll be very very good.

819
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 3: But I'm just you know, I want to see what

820
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 3: it looks like with him gone.

821
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: Okay, two responses there. Number One, do you have an

822
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: all pro vote?

823
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 2: Reason? Yeah, I picked him.

824
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy for you, You're my friend. But like

825
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: that's like that is my dream. I can't get one,

826
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: I think because I work for the NFL anyways, but

827
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

828
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have.

829
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 3: They might take away all my offensive line votes after

830
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: my confessions.

831
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: Like I really want that.

832
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: If anyone, not that anyone is listening that I would, honestly,

833
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm so into like I want to be a Hall

834
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: of Fame voter. I would freaking love that, and I

835
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: think I would be good at I think I could

836
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: do it. I've been doing this long enough, come on,

837
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: give me that vote. But that's really cool. And then second,

838
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: my second point is I'm not I'm not downplaying what

839
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: sneed did I think he was better than Charvarius Ward

840
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: when he left for San Francisco. But I do just

841
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: have ultimate faith in the system and that these guys

842
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: who was a Jalen Watson, Josh and Joshua Williams were

843
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: playing in the Super Bowl and they won. They won

844
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl because of their defense, and those guys

845
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: were out there a lot. I remember it, and they

846
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: had a guy in the Zay Johnson I believe towards

847
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: ACL during last year. So he's coming back Shamari Connor like,

848
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: it's like they're always just finding guys under the couch

849
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: and they develop, and so I think they'll be fine

850
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: even if he has a big loss.

851
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 4: I think they'll be fine too.

852
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 3: But I think you can't underestimate how much easier it

853
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: is for every other cornerback when you have like a

854
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: true eraser.

855
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 4: And I love Trent McDuffie. I love him as a

856
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 4: nickel personally, you know, on the wall.

857
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just I think very that's why you

858
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: have the AP vote.

859
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: And I know, okay, and now I'm regretting ribbing you

860
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: for the coaching stuff because I do have a couple

861
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: of coach.

862
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 4: Ones here for the Chargers. I ask, this is very key.

863
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 3: What does a Jim Harbor offense look like? In twenty

864
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 3: twenty four we haven't seen Jim Harbaugh on the you know,

865
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: like we're coming into the season. I think correctly he

866
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: was lotted as the best coaching higher.

867
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Speaker 4: His record is undeniable. I think what he did at

868
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 4: Michigan it's.

869
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: Not just he just wins, baby, But like, the offense

870
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: was creative, the defense was very creative too, So I

871
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 3: like the mentor. I don't expect much from the defense

872
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: here wide. Frankly, I could be wrong, but there's just

873
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: a lot vels offensively though, Like twenty fourteen was this

874
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: last year in San Francisco, that was ten years ago,

875
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 3: you know, And so again, obviously he's been coaching, but

876
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: I want to see what it looks like. I want

877
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 3: to see how him and Greg Roman build around the

878
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 3: They obviously decided to invest in the offensive line, prioritizing

879
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: that over receiver. Although I did love the lab of

880
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 3: conking draft pick. Everyone's just like ground and pound.

881
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 4: I don't know right now, he's pretty creative.

882
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: And he was at Michigan, and the fact that he

883
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: chose Greg Roman was a little bit of a curveball

884
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: of Okay, what are these two kind of look like

885
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: together after when we last saw them together? But I

886
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: have faith and I think that is the question. I

887
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: think that's one of the biggest questions in the entire

888
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: NFL this year, because I expected to be creative on

889
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: the ground and throwing the ball, and I disagree a

890
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: little bit about mintor just because man, I'm just I

891
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: guess I just have takes that clash with each other

892
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: because it is easier to improve defensively just with better scheme,

893
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: like you.

894
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: Can take linebackers who are their starting linebackers who are

895
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: their starting cornerbacks.

896
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: I get it.

897
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: Do these previews every year and we always overrate defense. Well,

898
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: it's been a little more consistent the last couple of years,

899
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: but it's just so inconsistent that like good scheme in

900
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: Floris was a good example, and in Jesse Minter, they

901
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: have been so good at picking defensive coaches. Obviously, now

902
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: John Harbor and Jim Harbar like fighting over you know,

903
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: the same coaching tree. But good defensive coaches can take

904
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: average talent or take blow average out and at least

905
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: make them average.

906
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 2: So I could see that happening, and you're right.

907
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: I think they're coming out with something we don't expect offensively,

908
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: and I'm really excited as a as a Herbo fan.

909
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 3: Listen, those three games where Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa

910
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: are both healthy will be electric. So pun intended with

911
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 3: the Chargers, Okay, the Raiders by the side of the ball,

912
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 3: I want to see how much of the defensive improvement

913
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: we saw on the second half of last season is sustainable.

914
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 3: I think there were things from that part of the year,

915
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 3: basically once they made the coaching change whence Antonio Peerce

916
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: took over, and the defense from that point on the

917
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 3: season was tremendous. Now they played some bad quarterbacks, there's

918
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: a few regression signs, but when I look at the

919
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 3: depth chart, they're pretty talented up front, particularly that defensive

920
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 3: line now with Christian Wilkins.

921
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: Finally, but I.

922
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 4: Actually think some of the role players are pretty good too.

923
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: Malcolm Kunz, but Max Crosby's amazing Linebacker's played decently. Corners,

924
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 3: you and I talked about Jack Jones.

925
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: They're just thin.

926
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: So I don't know how much I believe in the unit,

927
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: but I think if they're all healthy. There's enough talent

928
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: there for them to still be feisty.

929
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, Raiders fans, you can clip that. I don't

930
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: know how much they I believe in the unit at

931
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: the end of the year, because no one, no one

932
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: believes in them. This is not a unique take. Like

933
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: they were not in your top ten defenses. I don't

934
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: even know if they were in the.

935
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: They were mad about that.

936
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: I did.

937
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 4: I put them on in my outside looking at category.

938
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 1: Okay, so they were I get it though, because we're

939
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: all trained to think that short of sample size and

940
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: like you didn't see schematically anything that was like crazy.

941
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: They just seem to play together and play harder. And

942
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: there is something about defense, and I think this was

943
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: true of lou Ana Roumo's Bengals defense going back four years.

944
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: There is something where you can kind of see how

945
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: hard they play on a week to week basis, play

946
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: to play basis that can overcome some things and they don't.

947
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: And that isn't even consistent year to year. But they

948
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: played their ass off last year. If Antonio appears can

949
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: get them to do it again, they can. A lot

950
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: of Raiders fans can clip off this podcast and others

951
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: because yeah, I mean, I think average is a totally

952
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: fine outcome for them. I'm surprised you didn't go with,

953
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, the one of the only true quarterback battles,

954
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: Aoc Gardner Minshee, let's go.

955
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: I'm still holding out hope that they trade for Jacoby

956
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: Jcoby Brisset would lead.

957
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 4: This offense to a top fifty.

958
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: You wouldn't do it.

959
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: I think he is like a no, he's on the

960
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: no trade list, like he's untouchable. They want him to

961
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: be the sense for for Drake May and they do

962
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: not want Bailey Zappi anywhere near a football, you know,

963
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: for them again, so he's untouchable.

964
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: All right.

965
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: I saved the best for last. Denver Broncos not the best.

966
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: I actually really struggled with this one. I'm sorry.

967
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: We were trying to compare the Broncos to like teams

968
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: outside the NFL. I'll I'll take the hit. I don't

969
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: care if Broncos fans are right. They're like the Chicago

970
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: Bulls to me of like of the NFL. It's just

971
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: like why what I actually my.

972
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 3: The thing that I ended up coming over this actually

973
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: it sort of ties to a like an ongoing question

974
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: I've had, which is. I still don't. I mean, I

975
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: guess the answer is just money. But why did Sean

976
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: Payton pick this job to come back to the NFL?

977
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: For it was very confusing to me, and that leads

978
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 3: me to my question.

979
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: And he was struggling to get jobs. I think that

980
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: was it. He was the third choice. They wanted Dad

981
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: Quinn and Harbor and Quinn.

982
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm still a believer in his brilliance, which

983
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 3: is why I am making this my storyline. What do

984
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: you got, dude, because I'm willing to write last year

985
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 3: off as like a forced marriage. You clearly hated Russell Wilson.

986
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: Uh and you called the bumper bowling offense who never

987
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: you know, he basically was the most conservative offense in

988
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: the NFL, So you obviously I don't know. I'm talking

989
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 3: to Sean paytnon one assumes he had a hand in

990
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 3: picking Bonis to be their quarterback. I don't think that

991
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 3: means he prefers Bonix over Drake May and Jay Daniels

992
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: and kill mlliames obviously, but you know, I don't think

993
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 3: they would have done that if Peyton didn't say, yeah,

994
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: I can work with that. So Sean Payton again, we

995
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 3: have seen you call competent offenses with a variety of quarterbacks.

996
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: Game obviously Famo, the Winston Bridgewater. You know games hate

997
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: Taysom Hill. Why not can you pull a rabbit out

998
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: of your hat with this one? Can you build an

999
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: interesting and efficient offense with boon Nicks. I have some

1000
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: ideas of what I would like that to look like,

1001
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 3: but I kind of I landed on this idea pre draft,

1002
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 3: which is I actually think and I'm not comparing them,

1003
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: but I actually think bo Nicks has some similar qualities

1004
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: to Tua. He's got like a super quick release, he

1005
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 3: can throw over the middle of the field with accuracy. Now,

1006
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 3: they don't have the skill players that Miami does, but

1007
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: I think you'd want to see an offense that has

1008
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 3: a very strong downfield RPO component with with bon X

1009
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 3: and put him on the move.

1010
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 4: He can throw on the move really well.

1011
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 3: Anyways, that's neither hereded there, but this is I just

1012
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: want to see Sean Payton, Like you've heard everybody talking like,

1013
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 3: come on, like show us something, you know, show us

1014
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: some creativity, show us some moxie, because.

1015
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: You're one of the best coaches in NFL history.

1016
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're gonna need to score. I just think

1017
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: the defensive talent is hoping to be average because I

1018
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: think the talent is below average and the upside is

1019
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: barely low for that defense, so they're gonna have to score.

1020
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 1: I think he did do a good job coaching last year,

1021
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: like you could see it, yeah, like the weighted DVOA

1022
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: because I was like the you know, they ended pretty

1023
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: well last year. It was eighth on offense, it was

1024
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: nineteenth overall, so it was they had their moments and

1025
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: like he can still create efficient offense out of not much,

1026
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: but it's not that pleasant to watch. And I just

1027
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: don't know if he has the personnel. I like what

1028
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: you said about Bonicks. That got me thinking of like

1029
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: comps for him, because I've tried to warm up to

1030
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: it a little. Like it's not like he throws an

1031
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: unpretty pass.

1032
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 4: It all comes out lightning fast.

1033
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: Actually reminds me of a little bit of Teddy maybe,

1034
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: like who we loved, Like you know, just just a

1035
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: little bit of like an underrated pretty thrower.

1036
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: But you canton thing. Yeah, he can move. Also, that's

1037
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 2: our divisions.

1038
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: Well we did it nice and quick, I mean on

1039
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: the NFL Daily Feed so far, this week I've been

1040
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: doing after dinner min It's just like something nice to

1041
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: finish out the show. And used to have a segment

1042
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: at the end of the Mean Time show featuring Lenny

1043
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: where you ask questions to me, to everyone, but you know,

1044
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about me and Lenny always submitted the last

1045
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: one and some of them and my stammering responses to

1046
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: them like live inside of my brain.

1047
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: Literally I can remember. I don't remember anything.

1048
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: I have the memory of a goldfish, and I remember

1049
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: some of these questions.

1050
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna flip it.

1051
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna not trying to exact revenge, and They're not

1052
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: all going to be tough questions here, but I'm gonna

1053
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: throw a couple questions before we go.

1054
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

1055
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: This is a fun one because you are quite possibly

1056
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 1: the pre eminent ball knower at the nexus of Ryan

1057
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: Grubbs and uh Geno Smith appreciation like you you are

1058
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: there and they are there together, and you know you're

1059
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: a U dub fan and obviously appreciate Gino. Just tell

1060
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: me get me excited about this combination because everything I

1061
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: read and see about Grubs is really exciting. But I

1062
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: can't say I watched like a ton of you DUB.

1063
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, i'd be sure when you watch some of

1064
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: the prospects past, So don't say you saw some of

1065
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 3: the reasons why people loved this U do of offense

1066
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 3: so much. It's interesting because schematically he it's not. I

1067
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: don't think he has like a very uh like clear

1068
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 3: cut identity. I guess you would describe it to spread offense,

1069
00:50:54,880 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 3: pro style, strong RPO component. The funny thing is everyone

1070
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 3: thinks about as being like bombs away and just attacking, attacking, attacking,

1071
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 3: But I really think that was a lot of that

1072
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 3: was just a product of the talent he had. You know,

1073
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: a quarterback who could throw it all over the field

1074
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 3: and the best college group of college or receivers in college.

1075
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 3: He was an offensive line coach Ryan Grubb, and he

1076
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 3: will run the ball. And he's a pretty creative run

1077
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: game as well. And you saw that at times at

1078
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 3: UDUB when teams seeded the pass or probably seeded the

1079
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: run to them because they were so afraid of you passing.

1080
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 3: He was like, all right, great, I'm gonna handball off

1081
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 3: to Dylan Johnson. We're gonna run a variety of concepts.

1082
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: But I think you know, going back to kind of

1083
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: that spread aspect. It's that coupled with some a lot

1084
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 3: of creativity in terms of personnel groupings and formations, ton

1085
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: of motion, and to that extent, I guess it's.

1086
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 4: A little chief seat at times.

1087
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 3: I mean, the Chiefs offense has gone through different iterations,

1088
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: but it's much more like that than I don't know,

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Speaker 3: you know, the Shanahan Tree. It's not like that at all.

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Speaker 3: I'm interested in seeing so in many ways that goes

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00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 3: really well with Gino. I think because Geno can make

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Speaker 3: he can throw it all over the yard too. Unfortunately,

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00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 3: the Seahawks offensive line is not comparable to the Husky's

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Speaker 3: offensive line on a relative basis, right to compared to

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Speaker 3: NFL players, the Huskies had one of the better offensive

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Speaker 3: lines at football. So I think he's going to have

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Speaker 3: to make some adjustments in that regard to help Geno

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Speaker 3: and help the line. But I'm excited to see it

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Speaker 3: because I think it's we have proof of concept that

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Speaker 3: he knows how to get the ball in the hands

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Speaker 3: of playmakers, and Seattle still has a very good group

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Speaker 3: of playmakers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing that you said that excited me the

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Speaker 1: most is like, if they can just improve the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: and that is where coaching in the NFL can matter

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Speaker 1: a lot.

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Speaker 2: Just to be good enough.

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Speaker 1: That just that's going to mean everything for him because

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Speaker 1: when he was protected and yeah, the scheme wasn't the

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Speaker 1: issue last year, just wasn't happening for him when he

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Speaker 1: had time. You know, it's been a sneaky big part

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Speaker 1: of the off season on Twitter, I feel like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of days every now and then there's

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Speaker 3: like a day where all of the NFL film nerds

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00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: just start posting, you know, clips like this is like

1116
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 3: a little outbreak and then it spreads quickly and that

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00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: happened wild.

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Speaker 1: I feel like a proud father, Like I don't even

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00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: need to say anything anymore about you know, like it's

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Speaker 1: just out there. It's accepted what a underrated, incredible quarterback

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Speaker 1: he is. And I can't believe we waited until day

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Speaker 1: three to talk about him on the show. All Right,

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Speaker 1: do you feel bad for making me feel bad because

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Speaker 1: you produced a baby that's larger than me.

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Speaker 4: He's not quite there. You've met him, can you? Yeah? Like,

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Speaker 4: what's your scouting report on maybe?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think he's going to be a team player,

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Speaker 1: great attitude, big in the Hips, you know, in the Hips,

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Speaker 1: I think like he's gonna be tough to move, nice anchor,

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00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, possibly an offensive lineman, possibly a tight end,

1132
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Speaker 1: but one that can block.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, he's massive, you know, he's massive.

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Speaker 4: He's absolutely in it.

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00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: As your Twitter you know, profile says taller than you think.

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00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: That's true about Mina. But you and Nick are not, like.

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00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 4: Not big people.

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Speaker 2: That's not a tall couple. And yeah, it's impressive.

1139
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Speaker 4: Thank you. You did the opposite of Lenny's question.

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Speaker 3: Lenny's question was always rude and that was self deprecating,

1141
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 3: which does feel on brand.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how about how do you feel how do you

1143
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: have so many friends?

1144
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: Like?

1145
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: How do you have so many friends?

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00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: And is it difficult for you that they all have podcasts?

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00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: Uh? You're all it's been quite the off season of

1148
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 3: NFL podcast free agency where everybody's it's kind of like

1149
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: an NBA hiring where all the coaches surface in new

1150
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 3: jobs and suddenly there's one guy's out and one guys

1151
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 3: in and listen, I just I just say, yes, oh,

1152
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: you're in a new podcast now?

1153
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 4: Sure, all right, come on.

1154
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 2: I do think it is your superpower.

1155
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: I think people look at me and this is all

1156
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: true that you're so good at synthesizing, you know, the

1157
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: numbers and the film and putting it all in really

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00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: concise ways that you know. I'm I definitely envy when

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Speaker 1: you're on TV, but I think your superpower is you

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00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: really do have like so many friends that I think

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00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: have meaningful relationships with you. I feel like I have one,

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Speaker 1: but i'm and it's impressive. I do ask that, you know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you pull that off. It just

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00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: feels like it'd be so time consuming just sing with everyone.

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Speaker 3: You're with this new venture, Greg, you were about to

1166
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 3: deepen a lot of friendships very quickly because you're going.

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Speaker 4: To be asking a lot of people to come on

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Speaker 4: this show.

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Speaker 3: And as I said texted you when you tant me

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Speaker 3: the news, I think I owe you about twenty five appearances,

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Speaker 3: So comeing in.

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Speaker 1: I will take you up on that. That is it

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Speaker 1: for today's NFL Daily Hit the Music, Eric. I am

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Speaker 1: really excited about Friday show, last show of the week,

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Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell coming in will do the same conversation going

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Speaker 1: through the NFC for me to chimes, I'm Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next time on it thought Daily

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Speaker 3: Sh