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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day? Edo State

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Speaker 1: is that? Woo woom and Dan and tie fete. Thanksgiving Week,

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein? Happy Rivalry Week? Oo, Dan Rubinstein. It's a

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Speaker 1: and ever more. Mister Rubinstein, it is a pleasure to

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Speaker 2: Oh, It's incredible. This is an incredible week, not just

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Speaker 2: I love that hatred. I mean there are actual rivalries

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's all it can be. Rivalry Week.

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Speaker 1: But this is just the best. Now, this is Rivalry Week.

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Speaker 1: It feels it.

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Speaker 2: Feels like they control their own destiny. It's the breaking

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Speaker 2: Right, and essentially you would think they would vault up enough,

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Speaker 2: just projections. But like you watch the games, and like

432
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Speaker 2: Quen you was a little bit tentative. He's not throwing

433
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Speaker 2: deep as much. And the offense, especially through the air,

434
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Speaker 2: we expected to step back on the ground because of

435
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Speaker 2: the injuries, but because of the line. It's kind of

436
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 2: nice to see that the running game has stepped up.

437
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: But you figured that this passing game would take a

438
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Speaker 2: step up at least I know it's a more difficult

439
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 2: conference defensively from where they were last year. But looks

440
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: pretty ordinary, pretty consistently well.

441
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Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Like I've got numbers that sort

442
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: of back up that point. But if you've watched Texas

443
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: or if you followed Texas away, we followed Texas some

444
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: of these games, it's like they should be pounding this team.

445
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Speaker 1: Why aren't they beating them by more? Again, splitting hairs

446
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: because they're still winning. Just throwing it out there, Okay,

447
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: something to commit to memory here.

448
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Speaker 2: Also in that game, Brock vander Griff benched, Yes, correct,

449
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: And I want to say the backup's name was Butter Coally,

450
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 2: but I think it's Cutter Bowly Cutter Culli is much

451
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 2: more fun to say.

452
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Speaker 1: All Right. A few other things housekeeping type things for me,

453
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Speaker 1: just items that have been bouncing around in the back

454
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Speaker 1: of my mind. The Heisman odds have shifted dramatically now

455
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Speaker 1: for those who care, Okay, I generally do not care

456
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Speaker 1: about the hutsman. I do kind of care this year, okay,

457
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Speaker 1: because I think it's an interesting field. The conventional logic

458
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: all along has been it's going to be one of

459
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Speaker 1: four people that get the Heisman it's going to be

460
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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel or cam Ward, Ashton Ginty or Travis Hunter.

461
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Speaker 1: Those have been the four names for the last three

462
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Speaker 1: to four weeks. Now that I think everybody has coalesced around.

463
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Speaker 2: I'm a Nicknash guy, but agree to disagree.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Travis Hunter's odds dropped dramatically after the game this

465
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Speaker 1: past weekend. And by dropped, I mean he is the

466
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Speaker 1: overwhelming favorite. He is a minus seven to fifty favorite.

467
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Speaker 1: Dropped in a good way. That's right. He is the

468
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Speaker 1: overwhelming favorite to win this award. Ashton gint at six

469
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Speaker 1: to one, cam Ward at eleven to one, Dylan Gabriel

470
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Speaker 1: sixty to one. That's per FanDuel right now. So I'm

471
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Speaker 1: genuinely curious based on these odds, and I know they

472
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Speaker 1: don't use these odds for anything other than the betting lines.

473
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Speaker 1: I'm curious how many end up getting invited to New York.

474
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Speaker 1: That's what I care most about. Actually, yeah, because you

475
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Speaker 1: have to go back to twenty eighteen to find the

476
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Speaker 1: last time they only invited three guys, and that was Kyler,

477
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Speaker 1: that was two, and I think it was Dwayne Haskins.

478
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Speaker 1: It's not uncommon. It's just been uncommon lately that they

479
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Speaker 1: only invite three and not four, right, I think they'll

480
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: invite four. I think Dylan Gabriel will get the call.

481
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Speaker 1: I do think it depends someone on what happens against

482
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. Should that be the matchup in the Big

483
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Speaker 1: Ten title game? But uh, I don't know. Interesting, I'm

484
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Speaker 1: musing on what might happen. I still think Travis Hunter

485
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Speaker 1: is probably gonna end up winning that award.

486
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting conversation just because Travis Hunter's value

487
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Speaker 2: as an overall player, he has impacted games much more

488
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Speaker 2: so than any other player in the sports. I guess

489
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Speaker 2: non quarterback quarterback touches the ball every single play, So

490
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Speaker 2: obviously if there were an incredible weekend week out quarterback, sure,

491
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Speaker 2: But the fact that he is playing corner at an

492
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Speaker 2: extraordinarily high level, playing receiver at an extraordinary high level.

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing to me is he has had signature performances,

494
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Speaker 2: but we haven't had like a legit big Colorado game. No,

495
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Speaker 2: and so usually and this again, nothing that Travis Hunter

496
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Speaker 2: has anything to do with. You can't knock Travis Hunter

497
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Speaker 2: at all for this. Usually you're just like, Okay, here's

498
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Speaker 2: this huge Bama LSU game and Davonte Smith goes off

499
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Speaker 2: or whatever. Here's this like top ten matchup and so

500
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Speaker 2: and so went off. We don't have that necessarily with

501
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Speaker 2: Colorado or if that's a Big twelve thing. I don't

502
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Speaker 2: know if that's a Colorado being doubted early on after

503
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Speaker 2: how they finished last year thing. But we haven't had

504
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Speaker 2: that signature game from Colorado where we could focus on

505
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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, like even in a losing effort this week,

506
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Speaker 2: he goes over a thousand yards. I think he had

507
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Speaker 2: over one hundred yards and a couple of touchdowns against Kansas. Again,

508
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: the loss is not on him. They couldn't stop Devin

509
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Speaker 2: Neil at all. But I'm I'm curious, like this would

510
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: be the first time in a while where you're just like,

511
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: here's the big spotlight. Here's Colorado as like a top ten,

512
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Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty ranked team in a huge game, and

513
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter's going crazy. Hasn't been on that level to

514
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: no fault of his, but we usually get that from

515
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Speaker 2: these types like Ashton Jint. I guess similarly, like had

516
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: a good game, not an incredible game against Oregon. You

517
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 2: know those two big plays and otherwise only okay, but

518
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Speaker 2: at least he did that against the number one team

519
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Speaker 2: in the country.

520
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Speaker 1: We were like, well, exactly, exactly, there's that.

521
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I suppose if Dylan Gabriel goes crazy against

522
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Speaker 2: Ohio State, that becomes it a tighter conversation. I don't

523
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Speaker 2: know how many votes will be in at that moment

524
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: if that's who they end up playing in the Big

525
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Speaker 2: Ten championship game, but it seems like Travis Hunter should

526
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Speaker 2: be in the driver's seat right now.

527
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Speaker 1: There have been a couple firings. Recent firings in college football.

528
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: Don Brown at UMass, Tom Herman at FAU, If Pogee

529
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Speaker 1: at Charlotte, Cavan Wilson at Tulsa, Jim McElwain not fired,

530
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: but retiring step from Central Michigan. I do wonder which

531
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: Power Conference jobs are going to come open, because you're

532
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: going to start to talk about this now next couple

533
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: weeks or so. This is going to be I think lingering, Yeah,

534
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: do you have to do? You have to do? You

535
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: have to let it continue. I think Neil Brown's a conversation,

536
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: Sam Pittman's a conversation.

537
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 2: Hold it out against UCF.

538
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: Brent Priye probably a conversation we've heard there's a chance

539
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: Arizona opens up perdue Eric Purdue, Eric who messages us

540
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: on Patreon, would love for them to get rid of

541
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: Ryan Walters, but sounds like there's a situation with an

542
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: outgoing ad who doesn't want to have a lame duck

543
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: hiring situation, so that might not happen this year. There

544
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: are also some rumors of higher profile retirements out there,

545
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: but nothing that's anything we can substantia.

546
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: Back Brown said he going to be back next year.

547
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: Mac Brown, I don't think he's had like an official

548
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: conversation with I think's Bubba Hunningham the North Carolina a D.

549
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: He said that's half of the season, but he says

550
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: his full intention he's recruiting like he's back next year.

551
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Speaker 1: So there's that. This is a long way of saying

552
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a surprise or too. There's gonna be

553
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: a surprise.

554
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: You find the money, depending on how they finish.

555
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a surprise or too. You can see

556
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: it coming already. Whenever there isn't an obvious.

557
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: Jen Cohen didn't hire Lincoln riley.

558
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: Man he would need eighty eight million dollars. Dan pass

559
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: around that that's a lot of money, it's a lot

560
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: of cases. There's a lot of potatoes plus assistance plus Yeah.

561
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: I just we don't know who it's going to be.

562
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: You know, we've had these instances now this point in

563
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: the season every year for the last five years running.

564
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: And we've started to see coaches get fired earlier mid season,

565
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: rumors swirling mid season that it's going to happen earlier

566
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: before the end of the year. We haven't really seen

567
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: that at the Power conference level yet, and so it

568
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: does beg the question will it happen at all? And

569
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: it always happens. At some point, it will happen. Somebody's

570
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: gonna get canned that you don't expect. I'm expecting a

571
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: surprise or two here, I really am.

572
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Kaylin de Bor is being let go

573
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: after losing Oklahoma, but if Alabama loses the Iron Bowl again,

574
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's being let go, But I'm saying

575
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: somebody in the Alabama fan base is putting a corpse

576
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Speaker 2: in his back seat and be like, well, this must

577
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: be investigated. We can't have him as the sitting head

578
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: coach at Alabama where they're smoke.

579
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Speaker 1: Guys unbelievable, unbelievable. Just something to keep an eye on, Okay,

580
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: something to keep tabs on. I would also add two

581
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: other bullet points here, three other bullet points before we

582
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Speaker 1: move on. Maybe do some Thursday games or any thoughts

583
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Speaker 1: you have. There were two big flips in the recruiting

584
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: world that we did not have a chance to discuss

585
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: true on episodes last week. Those being Bryce Underwood, who

586
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: flipped from LSU to Michigan, and Julian Lewis Juju Lewis,

587
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: who flipped from usc to Colorado. So the Underwood one

588
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: is really interesting because there have been reports for a

589
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: long time now that he was being offered by Michigan

590
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: somewhere in the vicinity of ten million dollars to flip right. Reportedly,

591
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: he turned that down if you believe the reports, that

592
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 1: offer was increased to a twelve and a half million

593
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: dollar nil deal. And then he flipped yep, and then

594
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: he flipped. Where that money is coming from ranges from

595
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: Larry Ellison to Dave Portnoy to just a bunch of

596
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: people passing around the hat. Cannot confirm nor deny any

597
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: of that stuff, but you've all seen it too. If

598
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: you follow the recruiting game, Bryce Underwood has been compared

599
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Speaker 1: to Vince Young, Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, you name it,

600
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: all of the big guns that we've seen come out

601
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Speaker 1: of college football in the last fifteen years. He's been

602
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: compared to all of that. I guess, in Vince Young's case,

603
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: much longer than fifteen years ago. Yeah, he's been compared

604
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: to all of these guys. I don't know if he's

605
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: that good. He's been pretty good at the high school ranks.

606
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: He's from Michigan. Excuse me, what do you mean you

607
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: don't know if he's good. He's obviously excellent. Well, he's

608
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: obviously I'm saying I don't as a high school quarterback

609
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: he's that good. But a lot of steam around Bryce Underwood.

610
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Speaker 1: So that's that one.

611
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: Supposedly, yeah, supposedly, wasn't exactly a priority for Jim Harbaugh's

612
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: staff in the same way, at least in the same

613
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Speaker 2: way that he's been made a priority since Sharon Moore

614
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: took over. Went on zoom calls, I saw our friend

615
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: Bruce Feldman reporting with Tom Brady, and I take issue

616
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Speaker 2: with you saying that it was a money thing, Tye,

617
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: that Michigan found the money it as has been reported,

618
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: but the real ones know it's the true value of

619
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Speaker 2: becoming a Michigan man, of course, and the value of

620
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Speaker 2: a Michigan education and becoming a part of the University

621
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: of Michigan community of course.

622
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Speaker 1: Of course. Of course you can't put a price tag

623
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Speaker 1: on that tie. Well he claimed wasn't a money thing.

624
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was both. I'm sure it was.

625
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: Let's get the money right and let me dig in

626
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: deeper to what the Michigan experience has in store for me.

627
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: Let's assume a new offensive coordinator and some receivers also

628
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: enrolling at the University of Michigan.

629
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Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, even if it was a money thing,

630
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm not knocking the kid. I will take the money.

631
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Speaker 1: Go for it. Please, go for it the money. Yeah yeah, No,

632
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: this is not me saying I don't like his character. No, no,

633
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: take the money, man, take it.

634
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: With that kind of money, ty, take it that kind

635
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: of generational money. Ish, depending on where we go as

636
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: a society. You're ordering grubhub once twice a month, right,

637
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: you can afford.

638
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: It, absolutely? Yeah, grub Hub not a sponsor, could be okay,

639
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: door Dash, uber eats, whatever you want. Juju Lewis reclassified

640
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty six to the twenty twenty five class okay,

641
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: and was initially with USC. He's from the state of Georgia,

642
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: had committed to USC lips to Colorado, so he is

643
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: now the presumed starter in twenty twenty five. The same

644
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: is true for Bryce Underwood by the way, at Michigan.

645
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: Two really big flips from programs that have definitely taken

646
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: on some water.

647
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: Reclassified, by the way, months and months ago. This wasn't

648
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: like I'm flipping to Colorado and reclassified, that's right, that's right.

649
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: He announced that was that was a previous move. Yeah,

650
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: so it's a big move for Dion.

651
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: There have been ongoing questions about who's the heir apparent

652
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: to Shador if indeed Dion's going to be there next year, right,

653
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: and would.

654
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: No reason to truly believe he won't be other than

655
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 2: the fact that Shador is heading to the NFL round

656
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: with Travis Hunter.

657
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: Yep, that's right. But should we believe that Dion will

658
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: be there, which I at present do looks like Juju

659
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: Lewis is going to be a starting quarterback and.

660
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: Boulder absolutely, yeah, I mean quality move I know he

661
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 2: had been recruited all over and you know Georgia had

662
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: interest in Indiana. Looked like they had made in roads

663
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: with Julian Lewis good for good for Colorado man.

664
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: The final thing, what I have here is from listener Max,

665
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: who sent this tweet to us and a bunch of others,

666
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: and I wanted to give it its due because I

667
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: think it's interesting. I think you have referenced this here

668
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: and there.

669
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: Oh, Pack twelve championship DNA impregnating the sport, He.

670
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: Says, not enough people are talking about this scenario still

671
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: being in play. Yeah, all four power conferences could be

672
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: won by newcomers, the Big Ten by Oregon, the SEC

673
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: by Texas, the ACC by SMU, the Big Twelve by

674
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: Arizona State, packed twelve teams winning the Big Ten and

675
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve, a Big twelve team winning the SEC,

676
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: an American Conference team winning the ACC.

677
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: What better way to honor the solid verbals, big nasty

678
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: redhead Bill Walton than for Arizona State and Oregon moving

679
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: conferences and bringing that Pack twelve GM championship dna'd be great.

680
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, baby, That's what I'm saying. I don't know.

681
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: There's your big nasty redhead Mayhy rest in peace, love

682
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: Bill Walton. Yeah, that'd be wild. Big twelve team from

683
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: last year winning the SEC American team from last year

684
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: winning the ACC.

685
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: Early Bird Special. Got a big Early Bird Special this week,

686
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: don't we? Absolutely? We do a bunch of games being

687
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: played on Friday. Typically, what I would do if this

688
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: were a normal preview show, I'd go through window by window.

689
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: We're just going to go through these rapid fire and

690
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: you can stop me if I get to a game

691
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: that you find interesting. Okay, okay, seven thirty ESPN. It's

692
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: the only game on on Thursday. It is the Memphis

693
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: Tigers on the road at two lane. Two lane, favored

694
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: by thirteen points. This is actually a good matchup. This

695
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: is probably a better matchup on paper back in September

696
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: than it is now as we get close to December

697
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving week. However, nine to two versus nine and two

698
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: don't know if you have a leen on that one.

699
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: I like two lane a lot. I like two lane

700
00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: as well.

701
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: I like the season Memphis has had, but too Lane

702
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: to me has been special. They've had that extra gear

703
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 2: and the fact that they're doing it on both sides

704
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: of the ball, just a little bit more complete in

705
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: this moment. So yeah, I lean to lane here.

706
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: As we moved to Friday. In the early block, we've

707
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: got a handful of games in each slot. Twelve o'clock CBS.

708
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: It's the Paul Bunyans X game.

709
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: Baby should be the slab of bacon if Wisconsin didn't

710
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: steal it, keep it for themselves.

711
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: So look at Dan's video. It's out in our social feeds.

712
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: We talk about the slab of Bacon trophy. Minnesota at

713
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: six and five on the road against Wisconsin at five

714
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: and six. Wisconsin favored by two. They need to win

715
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: to get Bowl eligible.

716
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: Dan, Yes, Wisconsin has lost four straight and in those

717
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: four straight games, there have been in all of their

718
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: losses there have been something I guess with not the

719
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: USC one, but in all of their losses there has

720
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: been a clear consistent pattern, and that's when they play

721
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: against the quality deep they lose and they're playing against

722
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: quality defense.

723
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: I think Minnesota is a better team than the record indicates. Okay,

724
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: I've been saying that all year. They don't always show it. Okay,

725
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: this is not a consistent team, but you could obviously

726
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: see if you watch the Penn State game, if you

727
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: watch them at other points this season, you can obviously

728
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: see that there's a talented team. It would not have

729
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: taken a whole lot more for them to come away

730
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: with a win this past Saturday against Penn State. Right

731
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: just didn't work out. I think there's potential for a

732
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: letdown here for them. I think there's double letdown. However,

733
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: this is a rivalry, is a big rivalry game, that's true,

734
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: so I find it hard to believe they wouldn't be

735
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: up for it. The bigger issue for me is I

736
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: don't know what Wisconsin's offense is right now, and justin

737
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: kicking the tires online, seems like the vibes around Luke

738
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: Fickle and just the Wisconsin program in general are pretty bad.

739
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: My first Twitter search result was a guy who tweeted

740
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: out quote, I hope when Fickle gets fired he takes

741
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: his stupid vest with him. Okay, so I'm not sure

742
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: where the morale is for the Beagers right now. I

743
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: think a lot of potential for a rock fight. I

744
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: think Minnesota is better. I've got it, Okay, twenty three

745
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: seventeen Gophers sore. Yeah.

746
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: Historically, Wisconsin has dominated this, but Minnesota's won two of three.

747
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: Of course, Wisconsin won last season a couple touchdowns, but

748
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: in this moment, with Wisconsin as currently constructed scoring in

749
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: these past four weeks of losses like fifteen points a game,

750
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen points, I don't love Minnesota's offense and it

751
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: might be a letdown spot losing close like they did

752
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: to Penn State. And you know that incredible fake punt

753
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 2: obviously helped lead the way. But like, I'm just down

754
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: on Wisconsin right now. I think Minnesota can win this

755
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 2: game ugly. So I have twenty to seventeen Minnesota something that.

756
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: Same general theory. Yeah, twelve o'clock ABC. I mentioned this

757
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: one earlier. It's Oklahoma State at three and eight ouch

758
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: on the road against Colorado at eight and three. Colorado

759
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 1: a healthy favorite, about a seventeen point favorite. Dan Again,

760
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: Colorado is still technically alive for a shot at that

761
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: Big twelve title game, but they've got to win here.

762
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: They need Houston to beat BYU, which is not likely,

763
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: but who the hell knows, it's the Big Twelve. I'm

764
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: going points here.

765
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: I'm taking points as well.

766
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: I want what is your theory for taking points? Here

767
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: because Oklahoma State, outside of last week where they sort

768
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: of looked like vintage Oklahoma State, has not been good.

769
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: They have not been good this season at all. Why

770
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: are you taking the points here?

771
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: I think you can run on Colorado some Colorado is

772
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: a better team than Oklahoma State. Clearly a better team.

773
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: They're gonna win this game. I think it's just gonna

774
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: be a little bit close because of longer, potentially longer

775
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State possessions. Perhaps they found a younger coreter answer

776
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: as well. Who was able to I think it was

777
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: Dejon Stribbling, who was once again very good for Oklahoma

778
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: State and a losing effort. Oklahoma State is going to

779
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 2: finish winless to me in the Big Twelve this season,

780
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 2: they have not won right, correct?

781
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: Correct? But I think this can be a back and.

782
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: Forth game that Colorado wins by about, you know, seven

783
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: to ten points at home.

784
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

785
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: I have this somewhere in the vicinity of forty one

786
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 2: to thirty one.

787
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: Do you think that there is any kind of deflation

788
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: effect for Colorado having lost that game last week against Kansas. No.

789
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: I think this is a resilient enough team. In year two.

790
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 2: We've seen them bounce back from losses already this year

791
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: and bounce back from close wins. I just I think

792
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: this is a quality enough team. I don't think you

793
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: get to this point without being able to put losses

794
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: in the past. So no, I don't think there's a

795
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: realistic chance of them losing this game.

796
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: But who knows. With the new.

797
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: Quarterback and pairing that with a letdown, yeah, it's I

798
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: guess it's super far fetched, But I just don't Oklahoma

799
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: State doesn't seem to know how to win, so I'm

800
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: going to Colorado here.

801
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: I've been really impressed by Colorado this year. I think

802
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: they've made strize. I think you're right, and truly, anything

803
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: over five hundred this year would have been gravy given

804
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: where they were a year ago, so they've they've already

805
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: gotten well past that bar. And clearly, if you look

806
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: at how they progressed an offense and defense, pretty much

807
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: crossed the board. They've this has been a very very

808
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: successful campaign. This is the game though, that's going to

809
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: test their character. Oh the Metal, this is a bring

810
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: your own guts kind of game, okay, And I'm a

811
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: little bit worried that there's a situation where Shador is

812
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: just sort of checked out, like they don't feel like

813
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: they got much to play for and they're checked out.

814
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: And Oklahoma State, if we're to believe what they showed

815
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: last week, they can score, they can run, they can

816
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: still make life pretty difficult even if they're not a

817
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: good team. I want the points here. I'm worried about

818
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: a deflation effect them kind of being let down after

819
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: losing that one against Kansas and feeling like there's not

820
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: much to play for. But I think Colorado is better.

821
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 2: It will be cold in Colorado at kickoff, not as

822
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 2: cold by the way Madison with a high of twenty two.

823
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: Madison might be in the teens for the the Acts game. Okay, finally,

824
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 2: alf o'clock on Fox.

825
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: Oregon State at five and six on the road at

826
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Speaker 1: Boise State. Boise favor by nineteen and a half point. Stan.

827
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on the Oregon State front containing Ashton gent.

828
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 2: Well, they did better than I thought they would against

829
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: Wazoo in that they're now the Pac two champions. I

830
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: have Boise State winning this. Boise State is in a

831
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: position where not that Oregon State is a headlining type,

832
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: resume type opponent, but this was a major conference team

833
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: last season, and so you're gonna if you're gonna pars

834
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: boise schedule, and you're gonna look to see like whether

835
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 2: or not they deserve they've earned having a buy in

836
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: the first round of the playoff if they're able to

837
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 2: get there. This is a resume stacker, So I think

838
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: they're going to go for style points. I think he

839
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: should be able to ash in genty run through Oregon

840
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 2: State often, so I'm gonna I'm gonna give those points.

841
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: Boise should be able to run at Oregon State. Yeah,

842
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: is a big number.

843
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: Though it's a big number, and Boise has quietly been

844
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: very ordinary. They complete a lot of shorter passes, but

845
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: they are not generating big plays at all through the air.

846
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: I think this is also a potential look ahead game

847
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: because Boise knows if it wins, if it goes into

848
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: that Mountain West title game a week from now, presumably

849
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: against UNLV because Colorado State lost on Saturday night, right,

850
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: then they'd have an opportunity to get into the playoff.

851
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: Who knows how things go in front of him, maybe

852
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: even get a first round by this is something like

853
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: thirty five to twenty one. I think they win.

854
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: I don't think they cover I really so just you know,

855
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: get out with a win, get out as healthy as

856
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: you can, and move on basically.

857
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: By the way, also, this noon block very quickly, and

858
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: we've talked about this a little bit on this episode,

859
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: not this episode, on this Tuesday episode, I should say,

860
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: just broadly speaking, the mac title race is still crazy.

861
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: We discussed it, I think last Tuesday about the potential

862
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: for a six way tie at the top. YEP, things

863
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: have kind of worked themselves out. We're not gonna have

864
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: the six way tie at this point, so and get

865
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: about that. I know, damn. It does look like it's

866
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: most likely going to be Ohio versus the winner of

867
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: Miami Ohio and Bowling Green. More Harold fan and the better,

868
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: more Harold fan and the better They play on ESPNU

869
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: at twelve o'clock on Friday, Miami seven and four, Bowling

870
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: Green seven and four, Bowling Green favored by two and

871
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: a half points. We are a Harold fan in Forward podcast,

872
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Bowling Green twenty seven to twenty one.

873
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: Some of that neighborhood.

874
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: I think I'm feeling the same. I mean, Miami has

875
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: been quite good lately. They've won six in a row

876
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: seven of eight. They only lose to Toledo and the

877
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: offense stinks though. Man, the offense isn't great. It's a

878
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: bad offense. The offense isn't great, but they have a

879
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: top I think they're top twenty defense nationally in terms

880
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: of points per drive. Obviously, schedule is relative, but I

881
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: think this is the part of the year that I'm

882
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: gonna go defense. I love Harold Fan and I think

883
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: Miami comes away with the win. Low scoring, ugly, three

884
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: thirty ABC. It's the Egg Bowl.

885
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: It is Mississippi State two to nine against ole Miss

886
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: eight and three. Ole Miss is favored by twenty six

887
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: and a half points, big number, helping points bread for

888
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: sure in a rivalry spot. I think the Mississippi State

889
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: pass defense is going to be a real issue here,

890
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: provided that ole Miss isn't going one, two three. Can

891
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: coon team of the week that they can bounce back

892
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: from last week. I'm a little worried about a checkout

893
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: situation here. I am too.

894
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 2: I'm taking points. I don't think Mississippi State has a

895
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: chance to win this game in Oxford.

896
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: I'm on the points, man, I'm on the points in

897
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: a rivalry that many who knows those were ole misses.

898
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: I don't know.

899
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: This is a rivalry in which, yes, there are occasional blowouts,

900
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: but also in seasons where it seems like a team

901
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: one of these teams is considerably further along. It's seventeen

902
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: to ten, it's twenty four to twenty, and so with

903
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: the emotion in this game, I'm just going to take.

904
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: Points in a nightcap seven thirty ABC. We mentioned it earlier,

905
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: clean old fashioned hate. It is Georgia Tech at seven

906
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: and four. They can get to eight and four if

907
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: they were to pull a huge upset and knock off

908
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: the George Bulldogs. George is sitting at nine and two,

909
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: already clinched for the SEC title game. They are a

910
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: twenty point home favorite. Here, Dan, I'm going points again.

911
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: I am two. I am going points. Georgia Tech is

912
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: not known for its defense. I don't know if that matters.

913
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have one of the worst pass rushes in America.

914
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know if any of that matters.

915
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: I think this ultimately comes down to how much trouble

916
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: can Haines King, cause that is how they have played

917
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: most of this year when he's healthy, with his legs

918
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: worked out for him. I don't think it's gonna work

919
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: quite as swimmingly against Georgia, but I'm going points. I'm

920
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: going points. I gotta believe that this is their de

921
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: facto national championship. I gotta believe with what I have

922
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: seen from Tech so far this season.

923
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: There, well, it's a de facto national championship on the road.

924
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: To be clear, it doesn't matter oh in the state

925
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: of Georgia.

926
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: Close enough. Yeah, I've got points. I think Georgia wins,

927
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: but give me the points.

928
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: I'm taking points too. I think it's too many points.

929
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: I think Georgia Tech, specifically their ability to run, their

930
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 2: ability to get creative on offense, paired with a bunch

931
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: of slow starts for Georgia, might be able to limit

932
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: a possession or two that Georgia's used to getting. So

933
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take points. Georgia wins this one, thirty five

934
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: to twenty.

935
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: Seven thirty NBC. Yeah, Heroes game Nebraska six and five

936
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: on the road at Iowa seven and four, Iowa five

937
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. Dan. That's probably really dumb.

938
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm a little too high on Dana Holgerson, But

939
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to breshcout.

940
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 2: Right outright, Okay, I think somebody's winning this game by

941
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: a field goal. And so I assume if it's going

942
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: to be cold here in the Chicago suburbs, if it's

943
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 2: going to be cold in Madison, Wisconsin, it's gonna be

944
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: a pretty frigid game.

945
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: In Iowa City.

946
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: You're taking the points, then I'm taking the points. I

947
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: don't think either one of these teams is going to

948
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: be able to throw it with any sort of consistency. Obviously,

949
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 2: Iowa down to a backup of a backup of a backup,

950
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 2: something like that. So I'm going to take point. Somebody's

951
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: winning this game, you know. Nineteen sixteen, uh, Saturday in

952
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: Iowa City. Also a high this game. What time does

953
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: this game kick off?

954
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: Oven thirty?

955
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: Okay, this game has a high of about eighteen degrees

956
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 2: at five pm. It's like it's it's really going to

957
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: be a frigid one. I don't think anybody's gripping the

958
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,959
Speaker 2: football that well. I don't know if anybody's scoring twenty

959
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 2: four points, yeah, twenty to eighteen seventeen fifteen, I.

960
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: Don't know if I have to pick a winner.

961
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 2: If you're you're putting a if you're swinging a mason

962
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 2: my head tie, I'm gonna say Iowa at home pulls

963
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 2: it out and last, but not least, eight PM on Fox,

964
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 2: Utah four and seven, UCF four and seven.

965
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: It is the land of the four and seven teams DAN,

966
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: which means the five win team will be king. UCF

967
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: is favored by eight and a half points. I would

968
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: not go anywhere near UCF plus eight and a half

969
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: or minus eight and a half in this game against Utah.

970
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: That seems like far too many points. Utah still does

971
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: play pretty solid defense. They exclusively lose close other than

972
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: they lose close outside of that Colorado game, and it

973
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: feels like this is almost a lock. I'm not gonna

974
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: play the lock sound, but I'm giving them more than

975
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: seven points in a game like this close out the season.

976
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: Give me Utah plus the number.

977
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 2: And also, by the way, just in terms of emotion,

978
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 2: I'm not reporting anything. I'm not saying I've heard a rumor.

979
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I've heard something whispered in the breeze.

980
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: But Utah has already named a coach in waiting, so

981
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham's not long for Salt Lake City. This could

982
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 2: be Kyle Whittingham's final game as Utah's coach. It might

983
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: not be, It could be, and so something could come

984
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: out before the game. I don't know what would the move.

985
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: Be if you were Kyle Whittingham. Yeah, if you were

986
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: a man of a certain age and you had coached

987
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: your butt off for however many decades. Yeah, and you

988
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: decided in the head coach since serbn Meyer left, Yeah,

989
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: you decided do you want to walk away? Would you

990
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: announce before the game? Would you announce after the game?

991
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: Would you? Would you let it leak out in the

992
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: week building up to the game? What would be?

993
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: I think I think his personality is such that he

994
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: doesn't want the spotlight on him ahead of this last game.

995
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: Oh, I know that I'm saying with win, what would

996
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: you do? Oh? What would I do? Oh? I want

997
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: full retirement tour.

998
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: I want gifts at midfield tye if I'm if, I'm

999
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 2: a legend on that level. And he's not a big

1000
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: personality obviously, he's just put his head down and won

1001
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: a ton. But in me loving to hear the sound

1002
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: of my own voice to the extent that I do, Yeah,

1003
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: I want like the coach k thing, the Kobe thing.

1004
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 2: I want a whistle stop tour of people showering me

1005
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: with adulation.

1006
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: Ty, come on, there you go. Those are your big games,

1007
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: I think on Thursday and Friday. There are some other

1008
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: ones here that I did not mention. Navy ECU Liberty,

1009
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 1: which I think it was reported.

1010
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: You see you as hired promoted from within their defensive coordinator.

1011
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: That's right. That's seven and three against seven and four.

1012
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: Liberty against Sam Houston is interesting. Liberties eight and two

1013
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: Sam Houston is eight and three. That should be a

1014
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: decent game. Texas State against South Alabama. Reason why to

1015
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: be interested? Yeah? What good here? On Friday. We will

1016
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: get to the Saturday games on our next episode.

1017
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: Select that diaper, do not go anywhere.

1018
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Dan, I think that is all I have for today.

1019
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: Same we would encourage all of you to check out

1020
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: of verballers dot com. Forballers dot com is where you

1021
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: can go and sign up. Now the game run the

1022
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: board for week fourteen is now live, so it's Rivalry week. Okay.

1023
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 1: What I did is I took sixteen games. I took

1024
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: the sixteen games on our list that have a name

1025
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: or a cool trophy associated with them. These are only

1026
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: games on Saturday, so you have the full week. You

1027
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: have the day after Thanksgiving to sign up and get in.

1028
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: We will determine what our big prize is on our

1029
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: next episode. We haven't figured that part out yet, but

1030
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: this is a big slate of games. These are all

1031
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: named games with cool nicknames or cool trophies. You have

1032
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: to pick the winner against the spread in all of them.

1033
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: The winner will receive a cool prize that is TBD

1034
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: at this point. You can do that either by going

1035
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: to verballers dot com and signing up for any of

1036
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,479
Speaker 1: our tears, or if you are specifically interested in the game,

1037
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: you can go to play run the Board dot com.

1038
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 1: We set up a specific page that specifically talks about

1039
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: the game, what it's all about, and how you can

1040
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 1: get in. But it's a pick them game at its core.

1041
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: Play run the Board dot Com will give you all

1042
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: the deats that you need in order to get on

1043
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: over and sign up to play.

1044
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: Can I ask you this please, because it's this episode

1045
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: a little bit short of an hour right now. This

1046
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: is a big week for not just football, but for

1047
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: the healthy eaters. And by healthy I don't mean people

1048
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: eating cellar. I mean people who have a healthy appetite.

1049
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: That's correct. Yeah, give me the lay of.

1050
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: The land in terms of where your Thanksgiving sits, how

1051
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 2: many guests, dishes you're looking forward to this year, any

1052
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,959
Speaker 2: adjustments to the menu, any adjustments to the process. Tie,

1053
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: Just tell me where you sit right now, about seventy

1054
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: two hours out.

1055
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: Seven two hours out. Got nine people here in total,

1056
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: including Kate and I have nine people. You can go

1057
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: eleven if you want to count the dogs. So I

1058
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to be eating the turkey. They

1059
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: will be here though, too.

1060
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: Are they meet Are they carnivores?

1061
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: There are carnivores. Yeah, okay, good to know. Absolutely to

1062
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: what about I look forward to? I'm always looking forward

1063
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: to the pumpkin pie for MoMA age, of course, but

1064
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: you already know that if you're listening to this show.

1065
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: Otherwise we do an ice cream whip cream.

1066
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: Ready, whip got to be out of wint to be

1067
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: can of the things that I am most looking forward to.

1068
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we have a pretty standard issue Thanksgiving feast

1069
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: is not really that much in the way of creative dishes.

1070
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: There is a pineapple stuffing that's pretty good.

1071
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: What is a pineapple stuff and that's a standard stuffing

1072
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: with added pineapples.

1073
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: And pineapple in it. Yeah, it's good stuff, interesting and

1074
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: salty kind of good stuff. I like that a lot.

1075
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: Who does that? That's Kate's mom thing. All right, sounds good,

1076
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: very very good. We also have sort of like the

1077
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: normal complement of cast roles, though because of scheduling, I'm

1078
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: not sure exactly what we're going to have this year.

1079
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: But otherwise, you know, I always look forward to the

1080
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: cranberry sauce out of the can. It needs to be

1081
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: out of the can.

1082
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: In that shape, shining out the cylinder.

1083
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: Needs to be out of the can. I don't want

1084
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: the kind of homemade stuff. It needs to be out

1085
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: of the can. That's the best kind that nature makes.

1086
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: So there's that I wish and spray all day. Absolutely.

1087
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: The other thing that I will be I think scouting

1088
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: out outside of the pumpkin pie, outside of the cranberry

1089
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 1: sauce and the stuffings, I am going to be making

1090
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: a healthy amount of roasted potatoes, slash mashed potatoes and

1091
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: roasted vegetables. Have you done. I know you're a potato guy.

1092
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: You are very starch forward. I'm very starch forward.

1093
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: Have you done mashed potatoes before I've done mashed potatoes.

1094
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm very good at it. And when I say I'm

1095
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: kind of thinking about this, looking forward to this, I

1096
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: like to give it a little bit of a twist.

1097
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: I gave it a little bit of a twist last year.

1098
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: How so, just with how I was mixing up the

1099
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: different spices that we threw in it to give it

1100
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of a kick. I am kind of

1101
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: on the prow for ways that I can and up

1102
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: my game in the mashed potato depart.

1103
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: Have we talked about the mashed potato topper?

1104
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 1: The topper?

1105
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 2: I don't think the topper, Oh, man Ty, if you're

1106
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 2: looking to wow the crowd, I'll send you the recipe.

1107
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: I'll post the recipe. Whatever you need. There's a mashed

1108
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: potato topper. I want to I want to say it

1109
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: was molly bas but maybe I'm wrong. Formerly a bone

1110
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: appetite and it's like it's breadcrumbs and lemon zest and

1111
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: like crushed up potato chips and so mashed potatoes. If

1112
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: you're a mash potato person, obviously you appreciate them creamy

1113
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 2: and buttery, everything like that. You sprinkle the topper on

1114
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: so you get a crunch on the top. It's just

1115
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: a sprinkle. It's not like the full layer, but you

1116
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: sprinkle at the top so you get the crunch with

1117
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: the creaminess.

1118
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't hate it is pretty incredible. I don't hate that.

1119
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: If you have wiggle room in terms of timing, you

1120
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 2: can do it in advance. It's pretty great. Off thatshed

1121
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: potato topper. Yeah, to show you the link.

1122
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about yourself?

1123
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 2: I am making, but as a family, we we like roaster.

1124
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: But it's not like, you know, do or die for us.

1125
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: So I'm making the homemade Hogi rolls. I'm making the

1126
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: italian Ish sandwiches. So it's turkey and soapro soda and

1127
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 2: salami with you know, dressing and lettuce and onions and

1128
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 2: cheese and stuff like that. We're doing that with broccoli

1129
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 2: casserole with pumpkin pie. So we're just sort of readjusting

1130
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: the andre and you know what I might even throw in.

1131
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: I don't even know. My family knows this. I might

1132
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: do some of the cheese steaks. You got me that

1133
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: good Cooper sharp.

1134
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask what the status of that cheese is.

1135
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 1: Do you need another five pound block? No?

1136
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 2: No, I've got plenty of cheese, but I might do

1137
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: cheese steaks and the turkey Italian ok for Thanksgiving along

1138
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: with like it's a cheddar cat cheddar broccoli casserole, you know,

1139
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: with mayo and mushroom soup. It's the most Midwestern thing

1140
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: about me. I love that specific castrole. And you top

1141
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: it with the frenches, fried onions, and then we'll do

1142
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: pumpkin I think just pumpkin pie. So you're really standardish dessert.

1143
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: You're truly honoring the original cuisine of the first Thanksgiving

1144
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: with what you're yes, I.

1145
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, hoes and that's but we're doing that Wednesday night.

1146
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: My parents fly back on Thursday, and then I'm going

1147
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: to Jody's aunt and uncle, who I'm a big fan of,

1148
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: and so bring in a broccoli cast role in some

1149
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: green beans, and that's going to be I think the

1150
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: more traditional like slice turkey and stuffing and all that stuff.

1151
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, it'll be a big week of eating, as

1152
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: it should be hopefully for everybody listening and can't wait.

1153
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: A big week of eating. We would encourage you all

1154
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: and your families to get in and our run the

1155
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: board game playrundboard dot com if you want to go

1156
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: and pick games and look forward to the action this weekend.

1157
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: As I said probably seven times now, we do have

1158
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: another episode that's going to drop a little bit later

1159
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: on this week where we're going to talk through all

1160
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: of the games on Saturday, what the significance of those

1161
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: games is. We've got tiebreaker scenarios here that we can

1162
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: talk through clearly. We've got all of our normal puns

1163
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: and goofiness that we will talk through as well. We

1164
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: are not going to give but a nickname. As Dan said,

1165
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: it is simply Rivalry Week that encompasses everything going on

1166
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: this week, but we need to do with justice. Rivalry

1167
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: Week is here. Week fourteen is upon us. Dan. That

1168
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: is all I have. That's all I have. Everybody, thank

1169
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: you for your ongoing support. We appreciate you going on

1170
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: this college football journey with us. For that guy, Dad Rubinstein,

1171
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: for myself, Tie Hilt and brand as always, Fay, Solid Peace,