WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Saved by the Bell at Safety? 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.160 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:06.760 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:16.520 Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:17.040 Yes? 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:18.919 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:21.680 Absolutely ready for a break? 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.079 Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:28.280 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:35.200 right with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Patrick Walker, and 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:36.440 Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.479 It is Friday, July twenty eighth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen, 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.360 episode number twelve. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break, 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.000 Live from California. 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:48.279 Voice. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.560 Okay, I'm a little bit on the struggle bus. 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:54.400 I get it. 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:57.280 Let's be honest with Yeah, let's I love you guys 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:05.280 out there struggling the voices as Chris talking about. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:10.200 Talking about all these shows, but we're living on Star 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.880 Telling it is our second show out here, got my 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.399 crew Brian, Patrick Amber and today we've got a lot 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:18.639 of things we're going to talk about. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.400 We are going to get to some standout moments. 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.160 We are gonna'll tell you guys a little bit of 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.559 what we've seen through these first couple of practices. Uh 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.440 and Monday Pads will come on next time we go 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.000 on the air. Pads will have been on for a practice. 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.240 And so the one thing I want to do today, 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.880 and we'll probably spend the bulk of our time today doing, 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.280 is laying the storylines out for fans. I think there 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.720 are a number of storylines that entering this camp and 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.360 entering uh training camp through the preseason, these are gonna 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.880 be the start storylines I think will be the predominant 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.680 storylines for the Cowboys, And I'll throw them out to 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.640 you guys and let you guys just pontificate on those 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:55.760 different storylines. 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:56.120 Uh. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:56.800 But let's start first. 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:58.320 Let's get some updates on some injuries. We've got a 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.480 few guys that have some injury issues. Let's start with 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.280 Donovan Wilson. What we know, Patrick. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:05.320 Donovan Wilson, he left to practice on Day one, ladies 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:08.760 and gentlemen, with what is reported to be a calf injury, 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.360 potentially a calf strain. The good news is it looks 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.760 like the Cowboys dodge the worst case scenario, So it's 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.520 not a month's long gets a week's long injury, per 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:21.640 Mike McCarthy on yesterday. So Donovan Wilson will likely miss 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.080 the entirety of camp and the preseason. But not that 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.200 big of a deal because I didn't anticipate Donovan would 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.200 get much of any work in the preseason anyway, and 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:30.320 he's a veteran at this point. 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:31.800 He knows how to jump in and play. 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.400 But expectation at this point is that he'll be available 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.400 Week one when the Cowboys visit the New York Giants. 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:41.519 Second injury, unfortunately, also in the safety unit, Israel mcwambo 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:45.160 left with injury on the same day, day one of practice, 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.959 but mccuamoo, I'm told, actually pulled himself as a precautionary 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.760 for precautionary reasons. He returned to the sideline, but he 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:57.680 was in street closed. But similar timeline between mccuambo and Wilson. 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.560 Mccuambo expected to be weeks long as well, so expect 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.080 both of them on the field as it stands, to 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.240 play against the New York Giants. But in the meantime, 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.959 they will not be at practice on the field, I 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:09.880 should say, they will be leading from the sidelines, and 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:11.839 that's going to give these young guys like Mike Keith Bell, 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:14.440 jan Ye Thommas, Tyler Coyle a chance to step up 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.480 and really try to prove themselves. 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.200 Which those other line. I'm sorry. 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:22.400 Safeties, do you guys see as as being the biggest 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.760 benefactors of this situation just from a standpoint of now 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.480 getting some more looks, more opportunity. 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.320 Yeah, yesterday Thomas had to play in the middle of 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:31.359 the field where he was. 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:33.320 Able to knock the ball down and stuff like that. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.480 So yeah, like Patrick's talking about, though, these you got 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.840 some veteran safeties that are out and you mentioned all 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.600 the young guys, but I really, you know, you talk 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.880 about him, you talk about with Bell, you know, guys 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:46.240 like that. 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.680 Playing safety in the National Football. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.640 League to me is all about recognition, and through recognition 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.400 is reps, you know, and those guys don't get a 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.680 whole lot of you know, Tyler Coyle. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.800 The same way. You know, give these guys the. 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.000 Opportunity to get some prac just working against some of 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.280 the quality receivers and tight ends they have in camp, 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.200 and you know, you start to see the field a 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:06.720 little bit better. You gotta you know, you got a 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.320 quarterback that's capable of picking you apart if you don't 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.080 make your right reads and stuff. So any kind of 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.360 extra reps. Again, it's because of injury. That's the shame. 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.840 The part that you kind of feel bad about. But 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.440 for young guys to get reps, like I say, Thomas Bell, 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:25.080 those guys quarrel, that helps them in the long run 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:25.839 going forward. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.240 Let's let's also give me update on Luke's gooon maker. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:30.000 What do we know about him? 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:31.960 Yeah, this one can and I don't know if I 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:33.839 could add anything like that. I was talking to some 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.040 people about Luke and this is an injury, a pre 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.559 existing injury that comes from Michigan is where we're talking 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.799 about here. And so you know, when you're dealing with feet, 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.200 you know, that's something that this kind of you know, 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.200 there's the high ankles and then there's certain other injuries 0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:50.839 to feed and stuff that people just kind of you 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.440 got to give this single rest. You got to get 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.400 let it, you know. And it's unfortunate because to me, 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.520 I know, through the draft show and the coverage that 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.320 we were doing, he was picked in the second round. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.640 I was super ex cited about the pick because I've 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.600 seen this guy Michigan run the football, you know, I've 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.679 seen Blake Corn from Michigan just hammer it down people's 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.200 throats in the Big Ten. Well, they're running behind scoon 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.520 Maker and stuff and I'm thinking, Okay, big body guy translates, 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.400 that's a guy that probably needs to be working, you know, 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.159 next to Tyron Smith needs to be working, next to 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.400 Terrence Steele needs to be working and kind of. 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.280 Developing his craft a little bit. 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.360 So the fact that they're trying to figure out a 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:31.560 timeline for this, they really don't have a specific specific 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.760 When we was Patrick you got one, I was told 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.120 they're trying to work through that possibility of when they 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:38.800 can get him back on the field, but they're going 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.039 to take their time with this one. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.479 Absolutely correct, and specifically, what Luke Schoolmaker is dealing with 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.200 is plantar fesciitis, and as Brian so eloquently stated, that 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:48.599 does take time. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:49.400 It is painful. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.159 You don't want to try to push that because it 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.120 can work against you very quickly and then it'll extend 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.640 the length of your absence. So what I did like 0:05:57.760 --> 0:05:59.400 to see from school what it did like as far 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.920 as what I saw Schoolmaker yesterday, is he's already out 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.040 there doing mental reps. Yeah, you could see him in 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:05.880 the team drills. He was off in the end zone 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.800 and he was mimicking and doing phantom drills trying to 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:10.839 keep up with the mental reps and the assignments that 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:12.720 so that when he is healthy and he gets in there, 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:14.920 he'll be able to pick right up. But in his absence, 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:18.640 obviously we know Jake Ferguson, for my money, he was 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.000 coming in as te one and he was going to 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.719 go against Schoolmaker for that role. But right now it's 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.440 Jake Ferguson who looks like he's put on some good weight. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.239 Put on some good weight. He's ready to go. Peyton 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.920 Hendershot needs to take advantage of these opportunities as well. 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:33.840 But more so than those two guys are the ones 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:37.560 that we didn't necessarily talk too much about coming into 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:42.200 training camp, Seth Green, Sean McEwen, Princeton, Fance. Some of 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.440 these younger guys really now have an opportunity in Schoolmaker's 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:51.440 current absence. Day two, I ended up my eyeballs went 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:52.800 to him a few times because. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.080 I'm like, hey, look at that kid, Hey look at 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:54.680 that kid again. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.880 John Stevens, he what he did yesterday in practice is 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.560 a perfect example of what we're talking about here. Young 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.599 guys need to step up and take this opportunity and 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.560 make sure that they get a name for themselves before 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:07.920 schoonmaker gets back on the field. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.240 All right, here's we gonna do. We're gonna move on 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:11.400 to well. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.800 Hold on, I think you should mention someone else. Trevon Diggs. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.600 He's been out on the sideline. He hasn't really been 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.800 practicing yet. I don't think we know, or have you 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.040 guys heard yet, any of the specifics. I know there's 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.480 been a lot of questions as to why he hasn't 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:26.680 been out there just yet. 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:28.920 So it's being described as a toe injury. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.880 And I know that when you're talking about two positions 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.360 in particular, cornerback and wide receiver, you hear toe, you 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:37.000 get scared, okay, But what it's being described to me 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.360 as is a sore toe. And then when you look 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.720 at Trevon yesterday the interception by Nashan right versus Jaylen Toby, 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.560 now exactly he ran full speed down the sideline. So 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.920 Mike McCarthy said yesterday in the press conference that Trevon 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:52.000 Diggs is quote unquote fine, and then in practice I 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.840 see him spritting down the sidelines. I'm inclined to believe 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.400 that he is indeed fine. The Cowboys are just being 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.840 cautious with that, which makes sense with your ninety seven 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:00.840 dollar cornerback. 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:02.880 Yeah, if you've got a part that's already sore, my 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.800 thought is, let that simmer down a round bit, especially 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.640 this early early in camp. Give it a little time. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:09.720 We'll see where it goes. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.160 Yeah, the play that right made, I'd run down there too, 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.360 maybe put my PAGs on while I'm at A really 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.640 nice job by him playing in position Tolbert had him 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.440 beat and the balls so slightly underthrown but rally to 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:21.120 get to that point. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:22.520 Good job by Right. A lot of. 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.400 Pressure on him, you know, people were kind of talking 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:26.800 about him and Kelvin Joseph. Nice to see him have 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:27.760 some early success. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:31.240 Yeah, you mentioned Kelvin Joseph. Did you notice anything. 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:35.360 There didn't know a thing about Kevin Joseph. Yeah, I 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:36.320 didn't notice anything different. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.560 There doesn't make up break Ye, this is there's a 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.079 lot of guys on this field. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:42.319 There's a lot of guys. 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.640 As this camp goes on, the thing that you will 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.520 learn is, and I always thought this, I'm like, man, 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.480 these you know, we're gonna have to let these players go. 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.120 When I was in player personnel, we're gonna have to 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.679 let these players go. Bill Parcells told me one time. 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:59.079 He said, Brian, these players get themselves cut. They get 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:02.000 themselves cut. Either play or they don't play. You know, 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:03.960 don't ever feel bad. I'm like, well, you know, he 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.360 goes No. These players they're gonna either play for you 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.600 or they're not gonna play for you. So the field 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.600 will tell you a lot as we watch these practices. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.600 I'll tell you this, as much as we wanted him 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:14.600 to step up as a cornerback and become one of 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.680 the guys, he may actually just end up finding his 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.280 role as a special teams guy yea, because he's shown 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.880 some flashes there where he could become a special team's ace. 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.600 It's not what you want from your second round pick, 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.320 but there's a need for something. 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:28.640 I felt like though that maybe they were playing at 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.480 safety a little bit, and then I was going, man, okay, 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.559 I see what's going on. And because you talk about 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.440 covering kicks, but then there were a couple of times 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.960 where you had the penalties you know, fair catch, interference 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.280 and all that, and you're like, oh, where's the awareness there, 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.440 you know, and stuff like that. So you have to 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.520 have that ability to see the field at safety. We 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.920 talked about it earlier in the segment that you know, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:50.599 you have to see the field, you have to be 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.400 able to react. The part about him being tough and 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:57.080 tackling that's not the question. But you know, it's very 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.000 much like it's like a woozy A. To me remember 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.760 with a Woozia, it was always like he's in a 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:06.200 position and he just couldn't finish the play. Yeah, and 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:09.240 then you're like, please just finish one of these plays, 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.960 like Kelvin Joseph might be one of those guys too. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.440 That's kind of a please finish the play guy. 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:15.800 Yeah, all right, here's gonna do. 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.959 We're gonna take a quick break a little early here, 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.160 but we're gonna go ahead and take our break. 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:19.840 We'll come back. 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.600 We'll get into some of our standout moments or players 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.839 will let you guys go around the table and tell 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:26.520 us a little bit about what you've seen at practice, 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:27.960 what's really stood out to you, and do when we 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:28.240 come back. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:29.600 Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.520 Todd thought it would be secure to jog in the 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.240 Cheat of Savannah. 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I mean, you talk about Ceedee Lamb, 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.200 he's been standing out Cooks, He's been doing a really 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.559 nice job. But one player that I've kept my eyes 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.720 on is Jalen Tolbert. How even though he's had a 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.240 couple of plays where you're like, oh no, that was 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:35.080 not that great, he's had moments where you can see 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.240 the growth that he's shown just from last year and 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:41.360 to this point right now, you can see that he's 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:45.120 taking a step up. And as far as his confidence, 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:49.040 there are moments that his movements to me now look 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.040 like they have a purpose. He's moving with purpose, and 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.640 he's out there he looks a lot more confident and 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.959 you can tell that, I guess the time that he's 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:01.800 spent with Dak in his backyard with everybody else, just 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:06.120 creating and building that relationship, that chemistry. It's starting to 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:10.280 really show out here in camp. I thought we were 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:14.800 about to get hit with that balls. It was close. 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.720 But anyways, Wide receivers have done a really nice job. 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.920 But just wanted to point out Jaalen Tolbert and just 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.560 tell fans that there's hope. There's hope there and he's 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:28.040 starting to show, uh, some of that growth and development 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:28.640 right now. 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:29.160 I love that. 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.240 And Jalen Tobert is actually was one of the practice 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.200 points that I put on the dot com yesterday as 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:35.960 far as one of the key guys that stood out 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.840 to me yesterday. Even for example, in that matchup against 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:43.080 Nashwan Right, even though Right won that battle, Jalen Tobert 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:45.680 was right there high pointing it with Right. He was 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:47.800 physical and then he went right back to Dark Prescott 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:49.480 and said come back to me and guess what. Two 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.800 plays later, across the middle dark Presscott rewards him for 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.320 that confidence. So, but I'm gonna go defense on this one. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.320 I'm gonna go with Jabrill Cox. Jabril Cox looks he's 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.040 he's carrying over. Yeah, he's carrying over what we he 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.840 saw from him in mini camp. His confidence level another 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:09.280 former mid round pick. Jabrill Cox's confidence level is reminded 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.240 me of what I'm seeing from Jalen Jalen Tobert's confidence 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.240 levels through the roof right now. And now Jabril Cox 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.000 is as well, and he's playing like that. There was 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.160 one play in particular, route comes across the middle. The 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.120 red of the play was fantastic, the reaction was even better, 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.480 and on top of that not toping. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.520 I'm sorry Cox played through the whistle. 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:28.080 I thought at one point they were gonna have to 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.680 break that tackle up. And then kind of jokingly afterwards, 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:32.080 I asked he Brill, I said, were you gonna take 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:33.600 the receiver with you home? 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.040 And he was like, I would have if I had to. 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:36.600 That's the kind of energy I liked. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.360 This is a pivotal season for Jabrill Cox as well, 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:40.680 and especially in that LB. 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:42.160 Three battle whe the Cowboys try to saw it. 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:43.400 Yeah, he's the June guy. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.880 You throw on the bubble, kind of like where's Cox 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.680 gonna how is he gonna play this year? 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:48.720 But especially the. 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.720 Depth they need to figure out the depth at linebacker. 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.920 That's a good view right there. I was up by 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.320 Ambar and Derek watching practice and I'm going to point 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:01.840 out kept my aunt, Terrence Steele yesterday. What one particular play, 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.160 Terrett Steel is your right tackle. They're gonna run outside 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.040 play going all the way to the left, and they're 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:08.880 gonna try and carry it to the boundary and up 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.000 the sidelines. Terret Steel a his right tackle spot. He 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:13.920 comes all the way through and the next thing I know, 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.440 he's out there blocking on the safety out in space. 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:17.880 So here's the play. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.520 Going completely away from him. 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:24.800 You worry about his agility, mobility, how he plays in space. 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:29.000 He got engaged with the safety up the field and 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.240 then you watch the ball cut behind him there. So 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.720 it's good to watch him. The pass sets looked good 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:38.600 from him as well. You know, it was very clear 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:42.640 to me when he wasn't in the lineup. Adoga had 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.520 some struggles yesterday playing a little bit of tackle feet 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.560 not as good as it needed to be, but it 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:52.600 was good to see Terren Steele, engaged up the field, mobility, agility, 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:54.440 all those things that we love about his game. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:55.760 All Right, So here's what I do. 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:59.480 I want to pivot now to the storylines that we 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.800 will be telling talking about throughout this training camp, and 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:04.760 I want to start with the storyline. I think that's 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.520 probably the biggest one for the Cowboys right now, Zach Martin. 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:09.680 My question for you guys is how much of an 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.199 issue do you think Zach Zach Martin's unhappiness with his 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:17.920 contract will be for the Cowboys this preseason heading into 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:18.359 the season. 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:19.399 I think. 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.000 I mean we've talked about it. We talked about it 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.880 on the first show. You know, when the Cowboys want something, 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.840 they're gonna get it done. And I think it's not 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:31.160 gonna go into the season with you not having Sach Martin. 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.000 He's gonna be there. I think they'll find a solution. 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.920 If anything, I look at this on the brighter side, 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.439 the opportunities that this is giving other guys on the 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.159 O line. We know the issues as far as injuries 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.040 that we've seen the O line struggle and how often 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:51.320 we see them shifting from position. Even though Sag has 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:55.040 been that one constant guy that doesn't move and stays there. 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.200 It still gives other guys the opportunity to just take 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.880 those reps here and be able to bond and build 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:07.320 that chemistry on the old line as well. But I don't, honestly, 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.120 I'm just waiting for it to get done. We heard 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:12.720 Dak Prescott on the podium say, just to pay the man, 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:22.280 pay him. He deserves it, so honestly, right, I just 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.160 don't think it's going to be an issue at. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:25.720 All, and I agree, I don't. 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:27.520 I don't think it's going to be an issue regardless 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.600 of the amount of time it takes for this resolution 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.560 to land. But I get the impression that this resolution 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.040 is coming fairly soon, especially when you hear Tyler Smith 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:37.760 yesterday after second day of practice say that Zach Martin 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:39.840 sent a text message to each of the offensive linemen 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.040 and he said, quote unquote, I'll be there soon. 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.080 So I think it's already in the works. 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.879 And I am one hundred percent confident that of any 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:51.119 player getting a deal done, it will be on Zach Martin, 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:52.920 because that's the guy that you pay. And that's why 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.679 Dak Prescott was so definitive and concise in that comment. 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.080 Just pay the man, because if you're Dak Prescott, you're 0:18:58.080 --> 0:18:59.960 already looking at an offensive line that's trying to sort 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.000 itself out, even with Zach Martin right there being your 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.200 security blanket at right guard. If you remove him, that's 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.680 a that's a scary site for Dak Prescott. So that's 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.280 why Dak said what he said. But you know, brother 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.520 Zach Martin is out a week, two weeks the entirety 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.680 of camp as far as his preparation. We see video 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:18.480 coming out on Twitter right now. He's working without a 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.919 good friend, Duke Minyweather. He's staying in shape. He's going 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.200 to hit the ground running whenever he gets here. But 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:27.080 in the meantime, great point by Mbar. Much like Donovan Wilson, 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:30.240 although injury that's injury based and Israel mcconwell injury based, 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.760 it's an opportunity for these younger guys, Matt Farniac for example, 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:35.720 to step up and show what they can do on 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.160 the interior of the offensive level. 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:41.000 Farniac was a reason why it actually was a better 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.240 practice at that spot because everybody else it took a 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.320 swing at that right guard spot. 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:49.080 It was a nightmare. It really really was. He the 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.120 man they had Josh Paul had problems over there. 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:57.120 You know, it's TJ. Bass had problems over there. I'm 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.640 sure when Dak was standing on the podium yesterday he said, 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:01.119 pay them man, knowing. 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.719 How practice just went over on that right side. They 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:07.880 they really struggled over there. And you know, but the. 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:11.879 Cowboys, yeah, you put you put DeMarcus Lawrence inside is 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.359 a three technique and rushing the nickel, there's gonna be problems. 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.760 But it just was not anywhere where it needed to 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:24.359 be yesterday again, Farniac to me, was the best option there, 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:25.080 you know. 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:26.080 And and it. 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.240 Was good, you know, Tyler Smith and Tyron Smith on 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.240 that left side, things were fine over there. That right 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:36.240 side was a mess other than stealing Farniac when and 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.919 that's the thing that scares me a little bit of about, 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:42.400 you know, not having Zach Martin over there. 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.560 So yes, pay the man for sure as well. 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:48.439 Sometimes your absence will help negotiate your contract for you. 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:48.680 Yeah. 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.800 Yeah, but you know one thing I out throw out there, 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:52.359 and I hear what you guys are saying. From the 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:54.600 standpoint you don't worry so much about Zach. You know, 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:56.119 he could come in, he'll be fine. 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:57.520 I worry after what I saw yesterday. 0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.280 Yeah, and what I what I worry about as well 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.120 is continuity. 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:04.000 Like I'm trying to build continuity on this offensive line 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.000 with a bit I mean you, I don't know if 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:08.919 I call it a brand new offense, but certainly newer 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:12.040 elements being added to the offense. I really want my 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:16.040 offensive line to start develop that chemistry together as a unit. 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.080 And to me, that's where I think not having exact 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.560 their matters and so for every day he misses, yeah, 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:24.680 somebody else is going to get those reps, but that's 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.560 also one less rep or however many less reps that 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:29.400 Terrence still is gonna get with the guy he's gonna 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:31.760 be playing with on Sundays, right, And that's where I 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:33.280 think it's It's one of those things where you would 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:35.639 hope that at some point this gets resolved one way 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:37.439 or the other and he gets out here because you 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:38.560 do want to start building well. 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:40.879 And I guess also when you speak out of it 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:44.480 that way, you can point out the voice, the voice 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:48.760 lacking in that room as far as leadership and experience. 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:53.880 We know h Yren Smith, he's not I mean we've 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.919 talked to him or barely barely. You barely get to 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.880 hear his voice. Oh my god, almost got killed here. 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:04.400 We're at camp ladies and gentlemen. 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.200 That would be a miss that training camp battle for kickers, 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:10.679 that would be a miss for that camera. We were 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:17.320 almost made funny home videos there almost to keep it. 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.760 I'm awake now anyway, Tyron Smith. 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:29.080 One of the things that h Tyler Smith pointed out 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:31.880 yesterday is that he is having now in his second year, 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:36.280 having to kind of step up and speak up and 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:39.080 just take a little more of that leadership role in 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:41.920 the meantime. So that's good for young guys to develop 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:45.080 that way, but also it's it would be nice to 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:48.359 have sex experience and voice guiding these guys. 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:50.159 I mean, that's all of that's true. 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:53.640 And you know, every coin has two sides, and Derek, 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:55.800 you make an excellent point. You want continuity to be 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:58.159 established early on so that you can build on it. 0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:01.600 The good news when it comes to that is with 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:03.800 Terrence Steele coming back and looking like you know, Prime 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:07.160 Terrence Steele and Tyler Badish is right there. When Zach 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:11.359 does return, you instantly have that pre established chemistry between Beadish, 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:14.600 Martin and still it's already there. But then if you're 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:16.919 the coaching staff, you have to find out what you 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:18.960 have in these younger guys Farni y'ac and in the 0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:21.320 Doga when you operate him on the interior. You gotta 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.199 find out sooner or later what you have there or 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:25.240 what you don't have there in the event that you 0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:27.639 might need to go out into veteran free agency and 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.600 bring somebody in so that you have a better situation 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:34.560 behind Zach Martin going forward. So it's it's unfortunate you 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.439 because you want Zach on the field, but being that 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:39.720 he's not on the field, you got to take advantage 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:40.000 of that. 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:47.200 Alright, This conversation. 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.480 And the trenches ladies and gentlemen like. 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:56.000 Com does. 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:02.679 Put you in the take one for the thing. Right, 0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.600 Let's go on to the next storyline, and this is obvious. 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:09.080 So do we have concussion protocols as media folks, because if. 0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:09.720 It causes the. 0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:12.960 Situation, than I am Zach Mark. 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:17.520 That's a fact. 0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:21.040 This storyline is probably the biggest storyline for the Cowboys 0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.399 coming out of last season that they will have to 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.840 answer going into the upcoming season. How will Dallas solve 0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:29.680 its interceptions from twenty twenty two. 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:35.320 I'll tell you the there's the one thing that you 0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:36.840 kind of can hang your hat on if you look 0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.760 at the history of Mike McCarthy, and yeah, he's he 0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:43.120 had a Hall of Fame quarterback in Aaron Rodgers who 0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:46.720 doesn't throw interceptions, but his offenses tend. 0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:49.640 To lend to not allowing that to happen. 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.440 When he's been the primary play caller, you have seen 0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:55.920 where the interceptions the touchdowns are high, interceptions are low. 0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:58.120 If you're a fan of that, if that's the how 0:24:58.160 --> 0:24:59.840 you believe in things, and I want to say that 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.320 about Mike as a play caller. You know, maybe there's 0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:05.960 some things that you know, I've got in trouble on 0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.199 on my radio station. People have kind of taken this 0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:12.320 the wrong way about Dak. Dak is super aggressive when 0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:14.359 it comes to throwing the football, you know, and so 0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.040 you know, when you start to talk about how much 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:19.000 trust does he really have, I mean, he has. 0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:19.960 Maybe too much trust. 0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.320 You know, maybe some guys were letting him down, you 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.520 know when it came to well, Simi Fijoco let him 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:26.640 down just the other day, you know. And there's quite 0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:30.320 a few of those Dak interceptions where somebody let him down. 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:33.960 So if you just you know, again the trust, there's 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:35.680 guys that are going to have to make some plays 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:39.679 for him. But you know, nobody ever talks about, uh, 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:41.960 you know, the quarterback at the Rams when they won 0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:42.639 the Super. 0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.720 Bowl and he basically led the league in interceptions. 0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.120 You know, once your once your if you you find 0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:49.040 a way to win games and win playoff games and 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:51.120 win the Super Bowl, some of those things go away. 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.800 But I want to believe because of Mike McCarthy's history 0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:58.119 as he really does a good job of limiting the number. 0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.000 And maybe it's just the way he calls the game. 0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:02.840 Maybe it's the way you know. And we'll see Brian 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.879 with him and Brian Schottenheimer if they can. But Dak's 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.760 aggressiveness is one of those things that I. 0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:10.359 Think you're going to have to live with. That's what 0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:11.120 he wants to do. 0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.800 And I will throw this into Brian when you say 0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:17.920 that about his aggressiveness to people letting him down, his 0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:21.000 receivers maybe letting him down. That really goes back and 0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.600 speaks to what I think was the biggest challenge was 0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.600 I think and then again, I'm not trying to necessarily 0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:29.119 point out any particular player. But I think the level 0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:31.880 of his talent, of the talent of the receivers and 0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.960 what they were providing last season was down from what 0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:37.760 it had been the year before. And I think you 0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:41.600 solve a lot of the problems of the interceptions by 0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:43.080 upping the quality when you go out and get a 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:46.640 Brandon Cooks, when you get Michael Gallup back to hopefully 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:50.120 what we think Michael Gallup is like those things alone. 0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:53.560 Take your second and third receivers and improve them over 0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:55.720 what you had last year, and that will give you 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:58.160 targets that, by the way, if you are being aggressive 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.320 and you want to trust them by giving them a 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.000 shot to make a play, you know either they're gonna 0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:03.320 make the play or nobody's gonna make the. 0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:04.640 Yeah, that's the thing about it though. 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:06.679 But but you go back and you watch in the 0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.240 Green Bay game and he throws an interception down almost 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:14.040 in the red zone where Schultz and Lamb he Dak 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.240 was thinking somebody was going to break inside. Yeah, two 0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:20.280 guys basically the same area, and one of them was 0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:23.560 supposed to go inside, and Dak's reading that, Okay, I'm 0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.479 gonna throw you inside where you need to be and 0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:29.480 there's the trust. Yeah, there's the trust factor. And to 0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:31.480 your point, I totally agree with you because you know 0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:33.840 Noah Brown throwing to him and also the balls in 0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.560 the air, and Michael Gallup wasn't at his absolute best, 0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.720 you know, I mean the things happening there, Simmi Fajoco 0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:42.560 out here and immediately it's like, oh damn it, Dak's throwing. 0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.879 Another interception where the ball hit Semi. 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:46.840 Fojoko between the eight and the one, you know, and 0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:49.439 he's got to make that play. He did underthrow the 0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:51.480 ball yesterday, but what is he doing. He's taking a 0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.560 shot on a nine route and it was really a 0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:54.159 good play. 0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.120 And by the way, those kind of balls, yeah, I'm 0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:56.920 not as upset about. 0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.440 That's a point in my mind. Do it all the time, 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:00.600 but take that chance. 0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:02.280 You got to figure that out practice. 0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:03.679 If you want to do that, if you want to 0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.880 figure out, if you want to challenge that, let's go 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:09.639 for it. But like I said, there's I'm banking on that. 0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:13.480 Mike McCarthy's way he calls plays could limit the way 0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:16.199 that Dak Prescott could be put into some harm's way 0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:17.200 of throwing some interceptions. 0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.240 And I've always been and I agree, and I've always 0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:23.800 been on the heel of you don't want to mute, 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:25.119 for lack of a better way to put it, you 0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:28.639 don't want to mute Dak Prescott's aggressiveness. You want to 0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:33.000 trim it so that you can eliminate as many riverboat 0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.879 throws as possible. But you got to understand that some 0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:39.000 of those riverboat throws are gonna win you games, right right, 0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:40.920 that's how you well, you have to have that kind 0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:41.480 of quarterback. 0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:42.520 But here's the big thing for me. 0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:46.800 For those that are harping Ondak's fifteen interceptions last season, 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:48.600 you go back and you look at the film into 0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:50.120 my account, and I logged each one of them. It 0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:53.240 was thirty three thirty four percent were accountable to the receivers. 0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.200 So if you take that out of the math, then 0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:57.840 that means he threw ten interceptions. Now granted that was 0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.800 in a shorter time frame, only twelve games, but interceptions 0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.360 mirrors what he typically does on an annual basis. So 0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:06.720 you still say, Okay, twelve games, ten picks. Gotta peel 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.880 that back. I believe he will because history shows that 0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:12.880 he can when he has a three headed monster. First 0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.640 full year of Mary Cooper being here Dak Prescott, that's 0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:18.640 when he almost took the record from Tony Romo FO 0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:22.320 nine hundred and two yards, thirty touchdowns to only eleven picks. 0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:24.320 He was injured in twenty twenty. We know about the 0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:27.920 broken ankle twenty twenty one, another Mari Cooper year, almost 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:32.280 forty five hundred yards, thirty seven touchdowns, ten interceptions. Now 0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:35.640 you bring in Brandon Cooks logic, Dick takes, and history 0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.360 tells us that in this formula, Dak Prescott will thrive, 0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:42.600 the interceptions will decrease, the production will increase, and then 0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:44.320 you have McCarthy. 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:45.840 Into it as a play caller, and now who we are. 0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.040 Well, but then again, we're gonna get to week eight, 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.560 Patrick and Amber's gonna go this offense makes no big plays. 0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.200 If this thing turns into dank and. 0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:56.040 Dunk, dank and dunk, dancon dunk and then ambar and 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.000 week eight, it's gonna go. Where are the big plays? 0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.480 Where are the chunk plays? Where the twenty yard plays? 0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.959 This offense it's you know, and hope they get off 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:05.400 the field. They don't score any points. 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:07.120 You know, that's the problem. 0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.680 If you you talk about muting Dak and they don't 0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:13.320 make big plays and they don't get points, you know, 0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:14.040 because that's one of the thing. 0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:15.080 They're one of the teams of the. 0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:18.040 League in big plays, you know them, the Dolphins for 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.480 I mean they they they're one of the teams that 0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:22.760 make big plays in this scene. And the minute this 0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:26.080 turns into just a dink and dunk offense, fans are 0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.400 gonna be losing their damn minds about that. 0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:34.000 You know what. Surprisingly, I myself don't feel concerned for 0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.520 the interceptions this year. I feel like now with the 0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:39.920 off season, because last year, what was that thing that 0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.320 we always heard after a game Brian press conference, ye 0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:44.720 dark saying my. 0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:46.440 Babe, I've got to improve. 0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:50.200 Week after week we would see kind of the same performance. 0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.960 But I think now with this break and working together 0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.360 and all that, I do know for a fact that 0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.000 I feel a lot better about the wide receiver group 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.880 currently then and I did last year at the same time. 0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:04.080 So I think that they're starting training camp on the 0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:07.320 right foot with the right kind of guys that you want, 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:09.800 so wide receivers, I feel a lot better. 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:11.280 Dak. 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.800 I think he's gonna figure it out. And I'm with you, guys, 0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:16.440 I don't want him to take a step back and 0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:19.640 become more conservative. I think he should keep going. And 0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:22.000 it's all about getting on the same page, being on 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:27.000 the same page, that chemistry that we keep mentioning, just knowing, Okay, 0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.000 I know exactly where that guy's gonna be, and you 0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:33.400 know exactly that I'm going to you, And just that 0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.800 comes with time. But obviously you feel like you're running 0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:38.720 out of time here. When is the time coming? But 0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.360 I do think that they're on the right track, and 0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:43.800 I think that would be an area that I believe 0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:48.320 that they will definitely have improved by the start. 0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:48.560 Of the season. 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:49.560 Chemistry and trust. 0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.200 To Edbar's point, chemistry and trust, and it looks like 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.920 he has an instant in building chemistry with Brandon Cooks, 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.320 already has it with Ceedee Lamb. They had some timing 0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.680 issues last year the resulted in some of those interceptions, 0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:03.320 Lamb not crossing face, he going behind the safety. But 0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.840 we've also seen Dak make throws like, for example, he 0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:08.640 doesn't make the throw the game winning can throw in 0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.320 New York to Cole Beasley if he doesn't trust that receiver. 0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:13.920 There was a particular play against the Cleveland Browns when 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.360 Cooper was here. Mark Cooper was here in Dallas. It 0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:18.520 was a key hole throw. He doesn't make that throw 0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:20.680 if he doesn't trust the receiver. So this is Dak 0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.080 trying to see who he can and cannot trust, and 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:24.680 now it's the time to do it in training camp. 0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:26.640 In fact of the matter, in this kind of offense, 0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.480 what we think we're gonna see from this offense, that's 0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:30.880 what this offense is predicated on. 0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:32.400 It's those timing bas throws. 0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:34.600 It's those quick get the ball out and the receiver 0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:37.480 has to be i mean, with pinpoint accuracy in the 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.680 spot where he needs to be because the ball is 0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:41.959 gonna beat there, right, Yeah, so you got to trust him. 0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:43.800 A great example yesterday, I have them running. 0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.160 They're running a lot of bunch formation three to one 0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.520 side and then scatter and then also they got these 0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:51.840 pick routes too, where they're driving guys inside and then 0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.400 running CD behind that, you know, and he's sitting down 0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.920 in his zone and Dak's throwing the ball. That's exactly 0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.560 to your point, though, Receivers need to be where they 0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:02.160 are are supposed to be, and you also need to 0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.320 find a way to finish though if you're receiver. Don't 0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.280 let the ball clang off you and go in the 0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:09.280 air and then somebody makes an interception. And now we're 0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:12.160 talking about the quarterback and a high number of interceptions 0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:13.400 at a game or a practice. 0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:15.840 And it's also true that Deck needs to also make 0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.400 sure that he's making a smart decision. Example, you look 0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.400 at the playoff game against the forty nine ers. You 0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.000 dodge a bullet once against Fred Warner. Yeah, you can't 0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.160 go there again. 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It is the final segment of. 0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.080 The break Trains California. 0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:17.799 We are avoiding kicks and we are we're taking you 0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:19.880 guys through the storylines of training camp. 0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.040 Let's move on to our next topic. 0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:22.720 This one. 0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.160 I have that I literally had that one at the 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:28.880 bottom of the list, but you know, it seems like 0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:29.879 a great time to go. 0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:31.120 Ahead and have that conversation. 0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:34.279 Call the audible ahead, what do you got there? 0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:35.839 But I know you got it lined up how you want. 0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:37.160 Let me let me let me ask you that though. 0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:40.080 How concerned are you guys with with what's going on 0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:41.120 with the game situation? 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.520 I guess at this point. 0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.640 Our producer Chris, he's on record, he's a little, a 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.440 little worried, just a little concern for his life. 0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:51.120 I think, go ahead, Patrick, because you mean I thought 0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:52.520 you made a good point. We were just talking at 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:52.839 the break. 0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:53.240 Yeah. 0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:57.120 For me coming into camp, this was still the most 0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.600 glaring position that needed to be addressed. 0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:01.800 And I said it at several points. 0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:05.920 I understand you bring it, you bring Backtris in thiss Guyano, 0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:07.680 and then you go and get Brandon Aubrey from the 0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.160 USFL And the question was posed to me on one 0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:12.400 to five point three of him the fan on yesterday morning. 0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:15.000 Uh do I feel like one of these guys is 0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.160 the answer? As Jerry Jones said, one of them can be. 0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:19.480 I don't have the body of work that gives me 0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.400 that level of confidence. I can't justifiably sit here and 0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:25.759 say yes, I believe that, and there therefore I do 0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:27.600 have some concern at the position. 0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:30.280 And as these footballs. 0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:33.560 Sail over our heads with the goal post over there, 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:38.959 it just let it reinforces that. Now I understand these guys. 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.040 They have to get there. Yeah, there's some win and 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.120 they got to get their their leg beneath them, you know, 0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.200 so to speak. But that being said again, neither of 0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:48.239 these guys have the body of work that gives me 0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.800 the confidence. And then what we're kind of halfway seeing 0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:53.200 they're struggling to start training camp. 0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:54.359 Hopefully they pick things up. 0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.359 But when you have some veteran free agents out there, 0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.880 like a Mason Crosby, for example, who has familiarity with 0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.840 Mike McCarthy obviously from their days with the Packers, Viscay 0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:04.320 I ain't know and I'll be they're really going to 0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:06.399 have to get the going and they can't wait until 0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:08.120 later in camp to get it going to happen, has 0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:09.960 to happen now or we're going to be looking at 0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.120 a situation like last year where a veteran was brought 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:13.239 in and ended up winning the job. 0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:17.280 Yeah. I think everything that Patrick said is absolutely correct, 0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:20.120 and you know it's it's it's almost like they're I'd 0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:22.400 be interested to see if they do some actual kicks 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:23.799 in practice in front of all the. 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:24.719 Media, which they haven't. 0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:25.439 Really they haven't. 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.279 And I think Mike McCarthy, we don't see a lot 0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:29.719 of one on one. Yeah, we don't see a lot 0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.080 of one on ones and things like that. It's almost 0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.440 like you're not we really don't want people to write 0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:38.400 or talk about, Okay, they were six of ten from 0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:40.839 and then you're you know, we're charting all the distances 0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:43.000 and stuff like that. I just I don't think they 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.680 want to put that out there that way. We've learned 0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:47.840 this about Pier being an ox star though. This is 0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:49.759 kind of a difficult place to kick. Even though it's 0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:52.239 sunny and bright and nice, they have trees all over 0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.520 this place and the wind comes over these trees and stuff. 0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:56.759 It does do tricks with the ball. So we've seen 0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:59.719 some kickers. Look, really, last year they were kicking into 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.479 a pre stiff breeze. It was like they were four 0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.799 of nine, there were you know, three of you know what. 0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:06.400 It was just it was kind of it wasn't kind 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.040 of it wasn't pretty at all. And so I'm saying, 0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:10.839 I think they're trying to kind of figure this thing 0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.120 out right now, and maybe even maybe not in front 0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.080 of the media. Maybe it's going to be after practice, 0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:17.799 before practice, those kinds of things. 0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:21.759 You know, every time I've ever asked about kickers in 0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:26.640 general since the Dan Bailey era, I've always been told 0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:30.279 the same thing as far as like how easy quote 0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:33.719 unquote it is to bring a kicker just because the 0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.960 nature of the position, you don't it's easier to kind 0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.399 of give them a trial and then bring them in 0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.520 and just plug them right in and all that. But 0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:45.239 I've seen year after year when you talk about the 0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:50.040 problems that they've had kicking the ball, doesn't seem like 0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:54.520 it ever really works out that way. With a few exceptions. Yeah, 0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:57.799 but even every time we head into training camp, I 0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:01.160 feel like they're there they're always way towards the very 0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:04.840 last minute to go into panic mode when it comes 0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:09.640 down to the kicker position. So I'm just I just 0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:14.759 hope that they can take no I mean, obviously they're 0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.839 watching everything, but that they can take action a lot 0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:19.799 sooner than what happened last year. 0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:21.399 As an example, let me ask you this question though, 0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:24.560 because I hear what you're saying, I wonder sometimes if 0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.759 the kicker position is one that is very different than 0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.080 other positions in the NFL. Like if you got a 0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.760 linebacker problem, you know you can go into the draft 0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.319 that year and there will be linebackers available to solve 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:36.400 your linebacker problem. 0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:38.479 Right, you just got to pick the right one. You know. 0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:40.680 You don't have that every year when it comes to kickers, 0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.640 Like there is kind of this certain number of kickers 0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:45.360 that are out there, and that number doesn't seem to 0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.840 be changing very very much, and so you're really taking 0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.600 a shot on guys that are unproven to try to 0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:53.799 figure out if maybe you could kind of find one. 0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:57.520 But it's not as simple as finding other positions to 0:40:57.840 --> 0:40:59.680 be able to get ahead of it, as you say. 0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:04.080 Right, unless you draft one, right Because to your point, well, 0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:06.800 I was gonna say. 0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:13.200 That's exactly we drafted a third round guy that didn't work. 0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.160 There's there's not going to be any guarantee on any 0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:17.799 position that you know, if any play. But I get 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:19.680 what you're saying, and you're absolutely correct. Here's what I'm 0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:23.279 going with it, though, uh, because of the greatness of 0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:28.040 Dan Bailey, and Dan Bailey was an undrafted I am 0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.960 of the belief that that gives the front office confidence 0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:32.400 and saying, well, we did it once, we can do 0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:34.560 it again, which is generally true if I show you 0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:39.880 something once then But we're now so far removed to Ambars, 0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.080 but we're so far removed from Dan Bailey that maybe 0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:44.359 we should think a little bit differently as far as 0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:45.320 approaching the position. 0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.360 Is what I'm saying, Well, this is where Derek and 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:50.320 I grew up together here in Dallas Cowboys about the 0:41:50.360 --> 0:41:53.120 same time, and they used to have a kicking coach 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:54.200 you named Steve Hoffman. 0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:55.680 It's Steve Hoffman. 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.799 Whoever the official sponsor for the Dallas Cowboys is for 0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:01.800 building projects and stuff like that. I don't know which company, 0:42:01.840 --> 0:42:04.080 so I don't want to say, But whoever is that 0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:08.840 Hoffman could go to that particular depot place or wherever 0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.160 and find ten dudes and he would find a Pro 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:13.960 Bowl guy out of that. Never when I was working 0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.200 with the scoun department here did I ever have to 0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:19.000 evaluate a kicker because we had Steve Hoffman. 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.000 Steve Hoffman knew he would. 0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:28.560 Find high school teachers. Tim Ceter right, sim was the 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:29.279 one that was a coach. 0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:31.000 He had them all. 0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:33.239 He would just go down to the local store and 0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:36.839 say pro Bowl kicker, and he would find them. And 0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:40.160 that and that's where I mean. I want the days 0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:43.080 of Steve Hoffman. And I know he's coaching special teams 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.799 somewhere right now. I want that day back where I 0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:50.360 don't have to worry about this anymore, because what's gonna 0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:53.960 happen is this head coach is okay with kicking field goals. 0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:57.319 It's gonna be tight, tough games he's gonna play, he's 0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:59.440 gonna be if he's calling the offense like he's talking 0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:02.720 about it. There's gonna come down to some kicking situations. 0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:07.480 We've seen it before. So to Ambar's point, please please, 0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.560 please please make it a priority. 0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.440 Right now, I'll to that point and I will kind 0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:14.120 of pick dovetail off of it. I would like to 0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:18.279 plead to the play caller, the offensive play. 0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:22.080 Caller, and Michael McCarthy and just hey, listen, listen to me, coach. 0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:26.719 The more effect of this offense can be on third down, 0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.200 the less you have to worry about how effective your 0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:30.879 kicker might or might not be. 0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:32.040 So there you go. 0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:34.360 Yeah, and I'll take you one step further. How efficient 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:36.279 you can be on first and second down. Will then 0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:39.879 dicate fish can be on third down, which make sure 0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:41.400 you keep that kicker on the sideline. 0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:42.520 So just be perfect. 0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:45.720 You don't have to be perfect. 0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:50.560 We're not asking you're not asking better than thirty five 0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:51.440 percent on third down. 0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:54.000 Yeah, I mean winning first down to me, I think 0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.400 winning first down to me, whether you're on offense or defense, 0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:59.640 that's really where To me, offense and defense matters like 0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:02.120 first down. If you can win on first down, it 0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:04.600 dictates everything else until you get to a punt or 0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:06.440 you get to another first down, you know, And so 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.480 I think that's a critical down for the Cowboys. All Right, 0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:11.480 we appreciate you guys joining us. We're going to be 0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:15.279 back on Tuesday. Yeah, we'll be back on Tuesday, and 0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:17.040 we'll get to some of the defense. I we didn't 0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:18.680 get to a lot of the defensive storylines. We'll get 0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:20.680 some of those on Tuesday. We will also have at 0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:22.640 that point a practice that we have gone through where 0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:24.920 the Cowboys will have on paths they come on on Monday, 0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:26.760 so we'll get to see a little bit more, particularly 0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.480 on the offensive and defensive line, where guys start kind 0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:31.080 of running into each other a little bit more. That 0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:34.799 should be fun. Till then for Brian brought us Patrick Walker, Ambergarcia. 0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:36.760 I am Derek Heiglton. 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