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Speaker 1: ridic romance. Are poaching ourselves on our own show. You

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Speaker 1: If you hate the show, tell your enemies. It's a

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Speaker 1: win win situation. That's a good one. Well, welcome back, everybody, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no man shall do it in my kingdom. Attention Monsieur's

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Speaker 1: dueling is not allowed. But technically it doesn't say anything

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Speaker 1: about women dueling. So you know what, Lama, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: let this. You come on home, you Chris Rascal. I

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Speaker 1: love what you do. It's so funny, munching garret saying

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Speaker 1: what's up? Duc all. I could think of that ring

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Speaker 1: race scene in Lord of the Rings when he's like,

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Speaker 1: no man could kill me, and she's like, I am

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Speaker 1: no man. That's Lama fell I I could do it.

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Speaker 1: I was no man can duel here, I am no maday.

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Speaker 1: So she gets on fire, so she gets her pardon,

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Speaker 1: she gets to come back and return to the Paris Opera. Now,

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Speaker 1: that same year, the previous diva Laroche retired to a

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Speaker 1: quiet life of teaching, and Lama Pants stepped in and

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Speaker 1: took over as the diva of the opera. Very excited.

435
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: This marked the peak of her celebrity, and she sang

436
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Speaker 1: celebrated roles including Minerva Media, Dido Clarinda, and on one

437
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: occasion she even stepped in at the last minute to

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Speaker 1: replace the lead in a role so challenging. Lau Rochois

439
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: herself said she wouldn't have attempted it, but l A

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00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: Public Library writes, quote she received high praise for performance.

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00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: That's that good memory, you know, when you're able to

442
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Speaker 1: step in last minute, because you just have that memory

443
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: that can like I could do it. Yeah. And in

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00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: seventeen o two, an opera was even written specifically for

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Speaker 1: Lamo Band's unique voice. It was called tank Clad, which

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Speaker 1: is believed to be the first French opera where the

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Speaker 1: principal part was not a soprano. The historian Kelly Gardner

448
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: wrote that she quote introduced the Italian idea of a

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Speaker 1: contralto voice to France, although l A Public Library says

450
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: that's kind of in dispute, so hard to say. It's

451
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: always hard with art. Art, fads and fins like to

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Speaker 1: know where they really started. And I mean that sort

453
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Speaker 1: of thing can be really it's kind of a funny line.

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Speaker 1: There's not usually a clear like this is where it started, right,

455
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, somebody's always gonna be like I was already

456
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Speaker 1: doing that Hello, excuse you, but come over here in

457
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Speaker 1: an independent theater opera company second contralto for years before

458
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Speaker 1: showed up. Give me the respect I deserve now. A

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Speaker 1: website called Interlude writes that the plot of tank cread

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Speaker 1: quote depicts the tragic love of the Christian night ten

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Speaker 1: cread for the Saracen warrior Princess Clorinde. In a drama

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Speaker 1: of misunderstandings and impossible love. He ends up killing her

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Speaker 1: in single combat when she fights him disguised in the

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Speaker 1: armor of another man. It's art imitating life, don't you

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Speaker 1: think seriously they wrote this opera for her voice, But

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Speaker 1: it also sounds like they were like, what's something that

467
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Speaker 1: could happen to this big Yeah, she would dress like

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Speaker 1: a man, fight her lover and be killed, or more accurately,

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Speaker 1: in her case, she would her you know different now.

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Speaker 1: When the Marquis de d'Anjou, Philippe de Corsion, a famous

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Speaker 1: diarist of the day, saw her sing around this time,

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Speaker 1: he wrote that she had quote, the most beautiful voice

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Speaker 1: in the world is famous. She's killing yeah, but she

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Speaker 1: still had a fiery temper, of course, as we know,

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Speaker 1: and in sevent hundred, she ended up in trouble with

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Speaker 1: the love once again. This time though, is because she

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Speaker 1: got into a fight with her landlord, who can't relate

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Speaker 1: be careful. So yeah, one night she demanded dinner. She's like,

479
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: let me get some of that food you're cooking. He says, sorry,

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Speaker 1: dinner is not included in your lease. And she got

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Speaker 1: so pissed that she grabbed the roast off the spit

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Speaker 1: and started throwing chunks of it. At this time chased

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Speaker 1: a out of the kitchen. She also slapped his cook around,

484
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Speaker 1: which doesn't seem fair. She's just cooking. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's fair. Some accounts stay she even had a lady

486
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: lover or quote unquote sister with her that also helped

487
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: her beat some mass this time in this kitchen. She

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Speaker 1: caused the whole riot in this kitchen, and the cops

489
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: were called. Lama Pen had to go to court. Um.

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Speaker 1: But of course she had all these powerful noble friends,

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Speaker 1: so she was able to wig with a lot of

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00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: that trouble was everybody just thought it was hilarious. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure landlords, am I right? Just give her the mutton,

494
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Speaker 1: you know amongst us hasn't wanted to throw some meat

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Speaker 1: at our landlords. Honestly, all the nobles, probably you would

496
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Speaker 1: have been like, well, I'm a landlord, meet at me.

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Speaker 1: Better stay on their good side. Another time, Lama pen

498
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: overheard a baron bragging to all his friends about his

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Speaker 1: conquest of this young dancer in the opera company, in

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Speaker 1: the pair sopper company. And this young dancer had an

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00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: unsullied reputation. Salama pants like he is tarnishing the name

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Speaker 1: of a good young woman, you know, a righteous young woman. Her.

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00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: So she didn't like that ship, and she dressed up

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00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: like a man and challenged him to a duel her

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00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: usual m O. I wonder sometimes I wonder if she's

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00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: standing there in her regular dress and this guy's like

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00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: acting like a jerk, and she's like, oh, give me

508
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: one second, I'll be right back, and she like runs

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Speaker 1: into a phone booth, like puts her men's clothes on

510
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: real quick. It was like, hello, sir, I challenged, aren't

511
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: you the lady who was just just happened? Or like

512
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: it's a Mrs doubtfire situation where she's at the wrong table,

513
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: in the wrong outfit, like she actually goes on stage.

514
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: Is Clorinda but in her men's clothes, got cake all

515
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: over her face like a racehorse or whatever. Whatever he says,

516
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: that is not the line anyone pulls from Mrs Doutfire.

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Speaker 1: I knew exactly what it was. I always think of

518
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: that because she's he's got that nice old lady had

519
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: already sounded so gross, so much nastier than usual anyway,

520
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: So she's dressed like a man. She's like, let's take

521
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: this outside. And the baron prided himself on his swordsmanship,

522
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: so he's like, bet, let's do this, and ran him

523
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: through the shoulder like she do. And then she revealed

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00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: herself to be a woman, and he was so embarrassed

525
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: that he left Paris all together and went back to

526
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: his hometown. Wow, he had to leave town. When your

527
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: sexism is out of control, Like, I'm throwing my life

528
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: away because oh woman beat me like a notorious fighting

529
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: woman who beats everyone. Like you're in good company, dude,

530
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: chill out. Del Beart was like, let me get let

531
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: me get laidy. You need to leave down. She's hot.

532
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: This is great. And then in seventeen o one, Lama

533
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: him apparently remembered that she was married. Did we remember

534
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: that she married. Back when she married that tax collector,

535
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: Like as a teenager, right, do you think she looked

536
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: at her hands, She's like, oh yeah, that's not just

537
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: there for So at this point, apparently Spet returned to

538
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: Paris from the provinces and they apparently lived in the

539
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: complete together for several years until his death. Whoa weird.

540
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: She just like wrote him like, hey, you remember me,

541
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm your right. She's like, I'm going to turn the

542
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: volume down for a couple of years. Do you want

543
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: to come chill out with me and we'll get a cat,

544
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: We'll just kind of sit for a second. Yeah, I mean.

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00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: Jim Burrows, who's another historian who's researched her life a lot,

546
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: says this was well timed because she probably was looking

547
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: for a little respectability after all of these different giant

548
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: scandals that she had created. She's sitting in her chair

549
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: covered in blood. The police come in, They're like, there's

550
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: Lama pain here. She's like, oh me, I'm just a

551
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: simple housewife. I have been here knitting all day long.

552
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: A yeah, But if you're worried that Sermo pens return

553
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: on the singing means that Lama opens wild times are

554
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: over never fear. Encyclopedia dot Com writes, quote everything suggests

555
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: his return was conditioned upon his ignoring her sexual escapade.

556
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: She's straight up like, I have a proposition for you.

557
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: Please provide me the cover that you were meant to

558
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: provide my bosses originally, while I continue to do whatever

559
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: the book I want. Well, we are going to hear

560
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: all about that right after this commercial break. Welcome back

561
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: to the show. Okay, So Sermo Pan comes home and

562
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: Lama Pan is like, great, uh, let's live together as

563
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: husband and wife. But here's the deal. You gotta let

564
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: me go out and mess around with whoever I want.

565
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: That's just the deal. Take it or leave it. And

566
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: he's just this like meek little dude. He's like, okay,

567
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: whatever you like, pretty lady. He's like, I'm a text collector.

568
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: It is all I know to do. That's my anti

569
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: tax round. There you go solved. The world's probably did so.

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00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: For example, Lamba Band started having a little fling with

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Speaker 1: the Chevalier de Bouleon, who was a very a man

572
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: who was very concentrated into a little cube. When you

573
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: put him in hot water, his full flavor was released.

574
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: But this guy was also bisexual. He was sleeping with

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00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: Mopan's old lover and current colleague tvn Art remember the

576
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: guy from who got her the audition at the opera house. Well,

577
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: you know how theater people can be, and I could

578
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: say this, I'm a theater person, exhausting. Tavin Ard was

579
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 1: not happy about this little triangle of his his lovers

580
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: sleeping with his ex lover, and the two of them

581
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: started having confrontations. During one fight, tavin Ard insulted Mopan

582
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: in front of the entire company, which was stupid historically

583
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: because since Mopan, of course immediately demanded that they duel,

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00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: and Tavenard could barely hold a sword straight out in

585
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: front of him, so this was just over before it started.

586
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: For weeks, they would appear opposite one another on stage.

587
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes they even had to play lovers, and they didn't

588
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: have many incidents, although on one occasion, love a pen

589
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: bit Thenard's ear so hard that she drew blood, right

590
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: like an eighteenth century Mike Tyson. They're they're playing lovers.

591
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: I imagine she's like, oh, let me kiss you are

592
00:36:50,200 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: He's like, egxit stage right, it's not your on to

593
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: exit now offstage. My pen would wait to duel him

594
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: outside the theater to answer for his insult, but tavin

595
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: Ard was cowering in his dressing room the whole time.

596
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: You think he wait, how long did they wait? He

597
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: hang up for an hour ten minutes. I'm just like,

598
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: how long did I just did in his dressing rom

599
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: after every single show and just wave her leave? We

600
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: had like a little a little spy come up. Okay,

601
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: she called just clear. Jim Burrows writes that she quote

602
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: only desisted when all Paris took to humming satirical songs

603
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: about the Amazon Made and the King of the Cravens.

604
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: Then yeah, She's like, okay, I got what I need.

605
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: Everybody's calling you the King of the Cravens. Now. After

606
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: nearly a month, Tavinard sent her a gracious letter, which

607
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: was addressed to Julie, which is why anyone thinks that

608
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: that's her real name. And he's like, girl, look you

609
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: know I have a great voice, Like where it's you

610
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: and me. We run this opera house together. If you

611
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: stabbed me, which you will, how's that going to sound? Right?

612
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: I think what's going to happen to my voice? Just

613
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: a pretty funny letter. He's just like you're I know

614
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: you're better with the sword, but you know I'm a

615
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: better singer. You put a bunch of holes in my lungs.

616
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: What what? I'm even crazy? We can't have that. You

617
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't smash a stained glass window, would you? Would you?

618
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: So she said, look, as long as you apologize in

619
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: front of all the same people who heard your insult

620
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: in the first place, then everything's gonna be fine between us,

621
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: and tavin Ard was like, yep, absolutely, I'm ready to

622
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: do that right now. Call everybody in here. I'm so so, so,

623
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: so so so sorry. What was I thinking? Clearly I

624
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: was not, But I like that say it feels like

625
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: a gentleman's bargain to just be like, I don't know that.

626
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: My only satisfaction is that you everyone who heard the

627
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: original thing, you tell him you were wrong. That's all

628
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: you need. I don't need to fight, you know, just

629
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: embarrass yourself a little bit. The damage. Everyone knows you

630
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: were afraid to fight me, and that's the main thing.

631
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: And then doll Bear, our constant lover she stabbed and

632
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: then fell in love with h exactly Well, he was

633
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: back in Paris at this time, so they're hooking up regularly. Again,

634
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: you're in town, I'm in town exactly. She's probably happy

635
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: about that, feeling good. But Dalbart was also seeing the

636
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: Duchess of Luxembourg, and this seemed to be like kind

637
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: of a hot and heavy affair because in seventeen hundred,

638
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: doll Beart fought a duel with one of the Duchess's

639
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: past flames, and he got in trouble for it, surprisingly

640
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: and got imprisoned for two years. He spent two years

641
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: in jail, but when he got out in seventeen o two,

642
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: he got back, you know, immediately got back together with

643
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: Lama Pa and also the Duchess of Luxembourg. This guy's

644
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: got a lot of time on his hands. Again, see

645
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: these two ladies. And my Pa didn't want to play

646
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: second fiddle to anyone, and we know she's dramatic, so

647
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: she decided to take matters into her own hands. One Sunday,

648
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: the Duchess was attending church at sound Roche, piously singing

649
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: her hymns and reciting her prayers and all that good stuff,

650
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: when she suddenly heard a voice in her ear, and

651
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: it was La right behind her, telling her if she

652
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: didn't break things off with del Bear mopound would blow

653
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: the Duchess's brains out with our pistol. I mean, that's

654
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: less fun her previous. I know. I wish you'd like

655
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: I'll run you through like even I'll come up with

656
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: some elaborate prank to humiliate here. That's more my speed.

657
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to shoot you with its Damn girl, talk

658
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: about dramatic. She's running out of ideas. Maybe she's like,

659
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: I've done the story thing too many, the radish thing

660
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: that's really at the top of my game. I don't

661
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: think I could outdo that. I know, right, but it

662
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: was in Spain. You can do that again. If you

663
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: don't break it off with del Bear, I will tie

664
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: so many radishes to your head you would look like moron. Well. That,

665
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: of course caused a whole storm of gossip and scandalous

666
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: talkings and whisperings and goings on, but it didn't work.

667
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: The threat did not work. Delbet and the Duchess continued

668
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: their affair until Delbet left to fight for Bavaria, and

669
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: then he did return to Paris eventually, but by that

670
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: time he had fallen in love with a totally different woman,

671
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: and he had also had a marriage arranged for him

672
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: by the Elector of Bavaria to like some noblewoman. So

673
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: he's a little busy, I guess, with his love affair

674
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: and his new wife and anything. So he and Lama

675
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: Pen did not at that point resume their on again,

676
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: off again love affair. But that was all right because

677
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: she had a new love, of course. And this time,

678
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,959
Speaker 1: let's see was it man or woman? Man or woman?

679
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: Everyone's favorite game show was Lama being a man or

680
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: a woman. This time it was Madame La Marquise de

681
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: floren Zac. There's the gender revealed party for that new

682
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: lover she was. This woman was not only wealthy and

683
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: well connected and very a very sweet woman, quite lovely,

684
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: but according to the memoirs of a politician named San Simon,

685
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: she was quote the most beautiful woman in France. Okay,

686
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: she pulls so to floren Zac. Much like Lama Pan

687
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: loved love. She likes to get some. She liked to

688
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: have fun. She liked to enjoy her time with other people.

689
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: She was famously per myscuous. She had even been exiled

690
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: to a convent in Brussels for a while for either

691
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: showing too much affection for or maybe even actually having

692
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: an affair with the king's son and heir. That'll that'll

693
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: get convent, Yeah, Louise, like he's like, you know, it

694
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: was funny, but this is the one for you. But

695
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: in sEH three, de floren Zac was back in Paris.

696
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: She was having a grand old time going to parties

697
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: in the theater and of course the opera, and that's

698
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: where she first heard Lama Pan sing. Every source is

699
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: kind of surprised that there isn't a single mention of

700
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 1: this affair in letters or gossip rags or body songs. Nothing,

701
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: no talk about this. Sources even called it quote astonishingly discreet.

702
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: That is a surprise, since, I mean, everyone knew about

703
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: Havenard powering in his dressing room, but they're not making

704
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: jokes about floren Zac and Lama. But in a book

705
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: called Menuscrit Perfect, it says Mopan was quote honored with

706
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: her friendship and her protection. I'm sorry, m yeah, protection

707
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: is usually the way they talked about a man in

708
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: his mistress, right, you know, she was under his protection.

709
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: So that is sounds like it reminds me of sor

710
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,959
Speaker 1: Juana de la Cruz and her her lover, that woman

711
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: who was a vice reign from Spain. And they had

712
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: a little secret thing going on, and that's what kept

713
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: her safe and out a legal trouble for a long time.

714
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: Biographer Gabrielle Lettre then wrote in nineteen o four, quote,

715
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: for two years they dwelt in such affection they believed

716
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: to be perfect, ethereal, and beyond reach of the contamination

717
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: of men. The young women isolated themselves, enamored, only appearing

718
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: in public at occasions where their presence was essential. So

719
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: basically they spent all day every day doing it in

720
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: a quiet house somewhere with nobody bothered. We loved it.

721
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: What a life like. This is a real you haul

722
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: lesbian situation where they were like, let's move in together.

723
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: We are on. This is just it's just about me

724
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: and you. Girl. God, I imagine the floren Zac at

725
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: the opera the for time she's that Lama Pen comes

726
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: out and stage and starts singing, and it's just a

727
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: vignette forms around her. Everything else in the room turns

728
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: to black and silent, and it's just like this, this

729
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: is it my girl right there, and she's the most

730
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: beautiful woman in France. So Lama Pen is like yes,

731
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm in Yes, She's like I clocked you a meeting, ma'am.

732
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, two years too is kind of a long

733
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: time for Lama Pin besides Delbert, who was kind of

734
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: like off and on, so she couldn't get tired of it.

735
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: Two steady years in the same home years, that's pretty good.

736
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: But tragically, in seventeen o five, Madame de Florence Sac

737
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: was stricken with a sudden fever and only two days

738
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: later she passed away. The town tier Freuden wrote, quote,

739
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: the pain of la mo pen was boundless, which in

740
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: French means the bread was bound bread of Sorry, I

741
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: marveled a sentimental moment by undercutting you did do it

742
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: in here I wish. So yeah, she was like getting ready.

743
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: She had just opened a new opera and everything, but

744
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: she was so upset that she went straight to the

745
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: Paris Opera and retired. And most accounts say that she

746
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: decided to turn to religion at this point. I was

747
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: just tat ironic considering how we started the story with

748
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: a convent on fire. Um. Some say she entered a

749
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: convent herself. Others say she you know, contemplated doing it,

750
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: but she could never really bring herself to do it.

751
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 1: She walked into a convent, and she was like, I'm

752
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: going to funk all these nuns. I can't. I shouldn't.

753
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: I really shouldn't. This is bad for me and you.

754
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: And it's kind of hard to know because her after

755
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: she passed away, her life was really used as a

756
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: morality tale. There's a lot of things written, you know,

757
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries that are very pearl lutchy,

758
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: like she decided to set her steps towards God and

759
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: renounced all her evils and this is a this is

760
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: what happens when you know, you turn your mind to

761
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: satanic things, and you know. So it's a little hard

762
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: to tell if she actually did any of that religious

763
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: stuff at all. But whatever happened, Lamo pen disappeared from

764
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: the public eye and she lived quietly, either in a

765
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: cloister somewhere or in a quiet Paris suburb, and died

766
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: only two years later in seventeen o seven, at either

767
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: thirty three or thirty seven years old, either way, very young.

768
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: Oh my God, packed so much into her life much

769
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: and likely her body was just thrown onto a rubbish

770
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: heap like some common peasant. What they didn't know what

771
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: they had, So she has no grave to visit. She

772
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: has nowhere to check her out, but her legacy lives on.

773
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: You know, everyone loves to talk about Lamo pen and

774
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: Julie Daubigny. I think she comes up on the internet

775
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: every few months, like why have I not heard about this?

776
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: Amazing and as she herself once wrote, quote, I am

777
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: made for perils as well as for tenderness, and I

778
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: think she got a lot of both. So that's a

779
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: life well lived in my opinion. I'm like, they might

780
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: have done, you know, not done her body a disservice

781
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: after her death, but it's like whatever she got it in,

782
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: she got your time and used that body up used.

783
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm done with that, put it away with I don't

784
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: care what a life I mean. I mean again, I'm

785
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: thirty eight. I haven't done half the ship. You haven't

786
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: set a single convent on fire, you know, and that's

787
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: always been on my bucket list. You have never run

788
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: away with a lesbian lover. I have not. I've only

789
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: been to some of the places in France she's been to.

790
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: Never been in Madrid and dressed to countess his hair

791
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: with radishes. So many things left to do there? You go, well,

792
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: next summer so, yeah, I love Lama. What do you

793
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: think of her? God, she's fascinating, I mean, dressing. Part

794
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: of me wonders if I knew her in real life,

795
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: if I wouldn't just think she was in suffer. Oh

796
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: my god, because in so many ways she's just like,

797
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, I get it right, so tough and different. Um,

798
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: but oh my god, I want to live her life.

799
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: You know. Maybe it's just jealousy talking because she's so

800
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: she's so cool. Yeah, I think I would have liked

801
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: to be her friend, but I think to be loved

802
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: by her would be very, very hard. Yeah, I think

803
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: it'd be all right, though you're gonna try it, Like

804
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: I would give it a world scared look. You just

805
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 1: gotta know not to get attached. Well you know, yeah,

806
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 1: I guess. So I'm not for all that, like i'd

807
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,479
Speaker 1: kill myself and stuff like, I just feel like I can't.

808
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't have the energy for that. Um. But I

809
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: would love to be her friend. And how great to

810
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: be in the opera company when she's there and you're

811
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: like this guy won't stop groping me, and she's like, sure,

812
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: let me go. I just want to talk. I don't

813
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: want to just talk. I want to stab. Yeah, I

814
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: just want to stab. Get in here, just a little poke.

815
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 1: It's gonna be over real quick. Don't worry, quick, don't

816
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: even bother frighting back. Everybody just walks up to her

817
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: and they just exposed their shoulders like, okay, they get fast.

818
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: Please sanitize the blade. Check on me at the surgeon's

819
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: office tomorrow. Now. I'm so glad to learn this story

820
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: and about this person. Thank you Andrea again, thank you.

821
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: And I'm so glad we got to dive into because

822
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: I've heard the convent part but not much of the

823
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: other part of her life, and there was so much

824
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: left to talk about after that, so it was cool

825
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: to kind of really get deep into it. Yeah. Thanks

826
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: Lli for joining us for this exciting two parter while

827
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: we're cruising around the country out of town. Um, I

828
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: hope you do it. Yeah, I hope you liked her

829
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: as much as we did. Yeah. Please let us know

830
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,080
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831
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 1: Andrea provided a great one today, and so maybe you've

832
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833
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834
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835
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