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Speaker 3: We are going to be talking about fatherhood. Love it,
Speaker 3: Father's Day weekend.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I don't want to let me lie to y'all,
Speaker 4: my daughter to have me on the edge. Sometimes I
Speaker 4: love it. Most of the time, though, fatherhood go hard.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, we're talking about black fatherhood specifically. There's a
Speaker 3: lot of myths that you may have heard about black fathers,
Speaker 3: and we are here to let you know the truth
Speaker 3: and dispel a lot of those myths. Also, we're going
Speaker 3: to spend some time talking about the largest mass US deportation.
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Speaker 3: This is a really cool story. Florida college students rebuke
Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis by hosting their own graduation talk to me,
Speaker 3: all right, students said, New College of Florida, a small
Speaker 3: liberal arts school that Florida Governor Ron de Santis has
Speaker 3: sought to remake in his own image, say they'll host
Speaker 3: their own graduation ceremony on their own terms after the
Speaker 3: college invited Scott Atlas, a former Donald Trump advisor, to
Speaker 3: give the commencement speech. At the official ceremony, The Santis
Speaker 3: is stoked fury among New College students and national voters
Speaker 3: alike by leveraging a culture war on so called wokeness
Speaker 3: against schools and corporations across the state. He has focused
Speaker 3: his campaign on New College of Florida, a public college
Speaker 3: in Sarasota that he's been rebuilding as a bastion of
Speaker 3: conservative leadership. Many students want nothing to do with the
Speaker 3: man who's expected to run it or who's running against
Speaker 3: Trump for the GOP nomination or with his vision for
Speaker 3: the school. There's a quote the new administration that has
Speaker 3: spent the past four months attacking our students in community
Speaker 3: cannot in good face celebrate our graduating students and their accomplishments.
Speaker 3: Go fundme paid for the new graduation ceremony. Reads commencement
Speaker 3: is supposed to be a celebration of graduating students and
Speaker 3: the people who have shaped this.
Speaker 1: School to be what it is.
Speaker 3: And just so you know, the students have raised more
Speaker 3: than one hundred thousand dollars, which goes towards the venue, food,
Speaker 3: security and insurance, and transfer tition to and from the campus,
Speaker 3: according to the students go fundy page, and the fundraiser
Speaker 3: received a fifteen thousand dollars donation donation from Save New College,
Speaker 3: a coalition of students and alumni seek to perfect protect
Speaker 3: sorry the school from a hostile political takeover. So shout
Speaker 3: out to those students being forward thinking and writing their
Speaker 3: own story. I love that out to the allies that
Speaker 3: don't support it.
Speaker 1: Indeed, for sure, that's a that's a special one, all right. Fatherhood.
Speaker 3: First off, Happy Father's Day to all the fathers one time.
Speaker 1: Not sure y'all be doing fathers They bad though. Some
Speaker 1: of y'all don't even know what his Father's Day, like,
Speaker 1: his father's dead. Yes, yes, yeah, that's fair. That's very folk.
Speaker 1: Welcome to our lives. Mother's Day was popping.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think I bought five dozen roses on mother That
Speaker 4: sounds right. I think I might get a gift certificate
Speaker 4: to the home Depo. I just I don't know that's
Speaker 4: all right though. Listen, man, maybe he's loved me though,
Speaker 4: that matters, that's.
Speaker 1: It, man.
Speaker 3: So yeah, real quick, I want to say something. We
Speaker 3: were watching a comedian and uh, I forget to forget
Speaker 3: his name.
Speaker 1: But he's a very funny comedian.
Speaker 3: He he gave us some statistics on Father's Day. He said,
Speaker 3: the most celebrated holiday in the world is Christmas.
Speaker 1: Checks out.
Speaker 3: Second most celebrated holiday in the world is Mother's Day.
Speaker 1: Checks out.
Speaker 3: And then he said the twentieth most celebrated holiday is
Speaker 3: Father's Day.
Speaker 1: His name is al Sadiq Al Sadiq.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the twentieth most celebrated holiday is Father's Day.
Speaker 3: And you know, we're not sure when you're listening to us,
Speaker 3: just because so many stations, you know, Eric are show
Speaker 3: at different times, but we hope you're listening on Father's
Speaker 3: Day or prior to Father's Day because it's hit different.
Speaker 3: He made a point of saying, I can't name eighteen
Speaker 3: other holidays.
Speaker 4: So I can't name eighteen holidays too, And Father's Day
Speaker 4: is ranked number twenty, ranked twentieth. I'm sorry, where's Mother's
Speaker 4: Day rank second? And what's number one?
Speaker 1: Christmas?
Speaker 4: Of course, Jesus Mama, and the way down there and
Speaker 4: then get back to you dad.
Speaker 3: So and then he said something that was really funny.
Speaker 3: He said, Arbor Day, it's thirteen. Shout out to Ann Arbor,
Speaker 3: Michigan man. He said, I don't even know why for
Speaker 3: the trees. He's like, I don't know what Arbor Day is,
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's a holiday about trees. It's thirteenth and
Speaker 3: Father's Day is twentieth, so it's not even it's not
Speaker 3: even right behind.
Speaker 1: The tree Arbor Day, man.
Speaker 3: But being a father is a beautiful experience, and that's
Speaker 3: what we want to talk about.
Speaker 1: That thankless, Yes, very beautiful, very audience.
Speaker 3: But for black people in this country, we have been
Speaker 3: dealing with a falsehood that is very dangerous. Now I
Speaker 3: want to make sure that I say this fatherlessness is
Speaker 3: a thing in black households and in white households, and
Speaker 3: in Hispanic every single order across the boarder, across the
Speaker 3: it is a thing. There are households that where there
Speaker 3: is not a black father. There a households where there's
Speaker 3: not a black mother. There are a household with there
Speaker 3: is not a white father, a lot of them, and
Speaker 3: a lot of householders there is.
Speaker 1: Not a white mother.
Speaker 3: These are universal things that do happen. But for some reason,
Speaker 3: there's this myth that black people are disproportionately unavailable to
Speaker 3: our children.
Speaker 4: Of my brother, you guys don't even understand. His grace
Speaker 4: has no bounds, he said. For some reason, this myth
Speaker 4: exists like that reason, it's some sort of mystery.
Speaker 1: But I just he's such a professional.
Speaker 4: He's so good at this thing that we do, telling
Speaker 4: stories the way that we tell them, that's compelling to
Speaker 4: you as an audience, that gives you something to look
Speaker 4: forward to maybe three minutes from now. He's so much
Speaker 4: better at that than me. I'd be so mad on
Speaker 4: this radio, Joel, you have no idea. I'm trying to
Speaker 4: smile and laugh through it, but I'd be so bad whoa.
Speaker 3: Well, for some reason, there's good news here. There's good
Speaker 3: news here. Okay, let me let me start us off
Speaker 3: with some information. Okay, this is this. I pulled this
Speaker 3: one from Fatherhood dot Go. Now, first off, I implore you,
Speaker 3: as our listener, please go and google this.
Speaker 1: We say google a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: If we say google it, google it so that way
Speaker 3: you don't feel like it's our biased opinion.
Speaker 1: Right. But this free. There's no fund you gotta pay
Speaker 1: for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you do, you know us a little
Speaker 4: medics and shoot us a DM We'll get you together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll take care of you.
Speaker 3: But I want to make sure that this one you
Speaker 3: actually google it so you can see and you can
Speaker 3: read the articles and you can see the data. Okay,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna I'm going to share a little bit.
Speaker 3: First off, a a a very very compelling study. I
Speaker 3: think it took place in twenty thirteen and was published
Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen somewhere around there from the Center for
Speaker 3: Disease Control the CDC, which is a United States government agency,
Speaker 3: and they attract the health of.
Speaker 1: And note that the dot govnfatherhood dot gov.
Speaker 4: That you can't just yet, that you have to be
Speaker 4: a government agency because you want to right.
Speaker 3: So these are these are official sources that were that
Speaker 3: were citing, but I implore you to look this up yourself, Okay.
Speaker 3: Fatherhood dot Gov statistics show that close to seventy percent
Speaker 3: of all BLUR births to black mothers are non marital, okay,
Speaker 3: giving rise to the stereotype that black fathers are largely
Speaker 3: at Okay. So, for folks that maybe didn't follow that,
Speaker 3: seventy percent of all births to Black mothers non marital
Speaker 3: means seventy percent of the births to black women, the
Speaker 3: women are not married at the time that the birth
Speaker 3: takes place, Okay, and that is what helped give rise
Speaker 3: to the stereotype that black fathers are largely absent. Now,
Speaker 3: Qube made a point, he said that I said, for
Speaker 3: some reason, I know the exact reason. I know when
Speaker 3: it started. I know that it was the Democrats behind it.
Speaker 3: I know all this stuff because obviously I've had to
Speaker 3: do the research. But and we've talked about this on
Speaker 3: the show before. But these myths have grown out of
Speaker 3: these So how about this. People extrapolate different conclusions, They
Speaker 3: draw different conclusions based on this data, and those conclusions
Speaker 3: that they draw are are not indeed based in the
Speaker 3: real data, but there is a loose connection. Like we've
Speaker 3: illustrated here, unwed mothers means that there's no fathers in
Speaker 3: the home, right, But what I'm going to show you
Speaker 3: now is that that's not true, so I'll keep reading. However,
Speaker 3: while black fathers are less likely than white and Hispanic
Speaker 3: fathers to marry their child's mother, many black fathers continue
Speaker 3: to parent through cohabitation and visitation, providing caretaking, financial and
Speaker 3: in kind support. Okay, now, I don't have this in
Speaker 3: front of me because I didn't plan on making this tangent,
Speaker 3: but I want to make sure that I give you
Speaker 3: some history here, So don't hold me to this, but
Speaker 3: I'm going to start you on your path if you
Speaker 3: our listener wants to indeed research this further the way
Speaker 3: that I remember it off the top of my head.
Speaker 3: In the might have been coming out of the fifties
Speaker 3: into the sixties, there was a study that had taken
Speaker 3: place to determine the back of wealth in black households. Again,
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of doing this from memory and rather
Speaker 3: than looking at the facts, rather than looking at how
Speaker 3: the let's go all the way back, the legacy of
Speaker 3: Jim Crow, the legacy of black codes.
Speaker 1: And sure, sure, but.
Speaker 3: But just in this country, and in this country, in
Speaker 3: this country post slavery, when people could have jobs, the
Speaker 3: legacy of you know, okay, you cannot have a job
Speaker 3: unless you're working for a white man and they can
Speaker 3: pay you what they want.
Speaker 1: You cannot sue, and blah blah blah. It's hard to
Speaker 1: build low.
Speaker 3: And then of course in Jim Crow South, you know,
Speaker 3: if you have a black community where you have a
Speaker 3: doctor and you have a teacher in school house and
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and these communities are attacked when they
Speaker 3: get too big. You know, it's hard to build enough
Speaker 3: wealth and then pass it on. These these properties were
Speaker 3: claimed by white people and you know, rebuilt in their
Speaker 3: names and blah blah blah. So you know, it's hard
Speaker 3: to get that well started.
Speaker 1: But then we fast forward. Let's go to.
Speaker 3: You know, the the Great Depression and how the welfare
Speaker 3: programs were not designed to accommodate black people.
Speaker 1: Let's go to of course, redlining.
Speaker 3: We talk about that a lot and how real estate
Speaker 3: was something that propped up the wealth of white people
Speaker 3: and black people were not able to enjoy that. We
Speaker 3: can talk about the GI Bill and how that was
Speaker 3: given to white people and largely withheld from black people
Speaker 3: who serve this country as a means of getting wealth
Speaker 3: and starting lives and building. And there's a ton of
Speaker 3: other things. Some of them are actually documented with the
Speaker 3: racist terminology from the day. But these are government programs.
Speaker 3: There's a whole list of them.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So rather than looking at all of these things and
Speaker 3: then saying, well, that's clearly the reason why there's disproportionate
Speaker 3: wealth there, they tried to put the blame on black people. Again,
Speaker 3: this was a Democratic back study. So the Democrats did this.
Speaker 1: I know that.
Speaker 3: I'll see that entirely to my Republican or Conservative brothers
Speaker 3: and sisters, I know where it comes from. Rather than taking,
Speaker 3: rather than this country taking that party at the time
Speaker 3: they were, well, you're right, they switched more after the sixties.
Speaker 1: That's fair fairpoint.
Speaker 4: Party at the time held the position that the Republican
Speaker 4: Party hosts today.
Speaker 1: Fair points, it's not apples to apples faint.
Speaker 3: But rather than this country taking responsibility for those things
Speaker 3: up to that point, remember we haven't even gotten to
Speaker 3: the modern era where we're talking about the war on drugs,
Speaker 3: and you know, the prison industrial complex and the school
Speaker 3: to prison pipeline, and we're not talking about you know, the.
Speaker 4: You know all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're not talking about that yet, you know,
Speaker 3: because we had to see those in a modern light.
Speaker 1: We're just talking about what happened back then. Okay. So
Speaker 1: rather than this country saying, you know what, we have
Speaker 1: stood in.
Speaker 3: The way, and we've allowed our citizens to stand in
Speaker 3: the way of black people gaining the same level of
Speaker 3: wealth or at least a decent level of wealth, so
Speaker 3: that they can be self determined, more self determined than
Speaker 3: they are. Rather than accepting the responsibility, this country rather
Speaker 3: put together this study and drew these bogus conclusions, and
Speaker 3: part of those conclusions were to say that the black
Speaker 3: fathers were not in the home. Now, the reason for
Speaker 3: that is because black men and back then didn't marry
Speaker 3: their spouse legally, because a single woman qualified for more assistance. Remember,
Speaker 3: we're talking about the legacy of the Great Depression. We're
Speaker 3: talking about the lego. These are very, very poor people
Speaker 3: that have a hard go at it. So whatever opportunities
Speaker 3: they can get, they'll get it. Now, that's not to
Speaker 3: say one hundred percent of black women mark that they
Speaker 3: were unmarried, you know what I mean. But the disproportionate
Speaker 3: data was the result of that condition. That was just
Speaker 3: it was a survival tactic we have to.
Speaker 4: And also a kind of grasp from thin air conclusion
Speaker 4: that unmarried meant absent exactly exactly may must not be there.
Speaker 4: That's what the next part of the reading suggests. No, no,
Speaker 4: you're I'm glad you're on it. I'm glad you're on it.
Speaker 4: On top of that, I'm glad you're on it because again,
Speaker 4: I grew up in a world where black fathers were present.
Speaker 4: There were some black fathers that were not present, but critically,
Speaker 4: there were some white fathers that.
Speaker 3: Were not present. There were some Hispanic fathers that were
Speaker 3: not present. There were some Asian fathers that were not present.
Speaker 3: They either died, went to jail, just a deflected flake,
Speaker 3: started new family, whatever these things happened, or.
Speaker 4: Broke up with the mom because sometimes relationships don't be
Speaker 4: working out that sometimes people be tripping. It is not
Speaker 4: more complicated than that. In a lot of these cases,
Speaker 4: sometimes mama and or daddy's tripping. So the other one
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, me and the kids gonna go over
Speaker 4: here you can still be dad. But you and I
Speaker 4: just Saint Vibran. So I'm going to get to that too.
Speaker 4: Now the thing is which group has unfairly had this
Speaker 4: label assigned to them that they're dead be dads?
Speaker 3: Oh that would be black people. Right now, My lived
Speaker 3: experience doesn't support that, nor does the data. I'll continue.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, according to the data, no
Speaker 1: one's does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So now I'm gonna read a bit from Newsweek.
Speaker 3: People conflate marriage statistics with fatherlessness when it comes to
Speaker 3: black dads specifically, most in fact live with their children.
Speaker 3: A c C study found that about two point five
Speaker 3: million black fathers were living with their children and about
Speaker 3: one point seven were officially living apart from them. Okay,
Speaker 3: so the majority, vast majority live in the house with
Speaker 3: their children.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So this myth, this pervasive myth that's never been backed
Speaker 3: by any data other than it didn't have to be
Speaker 3: who qualifies for Welford, So it didn't have to.
Speaker 4: Be right when you when you list statistics, you know,
Speaker 4: kind of blind statistics to an audience, this being the
Speaker 4: entire country at our time inclined to believe it. They're
Speaker 4: not only inclined to believe it, but they want to.
Speaker 4: Like I said, this country has always positioned the black
Speaker 4: man as the enemy. So of course they're not there
Speaker 4: for their children. Of Course they're dead beats. Of course
Speaker 4: they're absent. It's just the nature of black men. So
Speaker 4: you can you condition people to readily accept information like
Speaker 4: that without doing any additional follow up research to prove
Speaker 4: you wrong. They don't want you to be wrong if
Speaker 4: they want to lean into that idea of being true,
Speaker 4: so they readily receive that type of confirmation biased information.
Speaker 3: I want to take a moment here because you bring
Speaker 3: me the thought this conversation about reparations is not necessarily
Speaker 3: a conversation about reparations for slavery. I said something a
Speaker 3: moment ago. I said that this country has a responsibility
Speaker 3: to her black citizens. That is not to say this
Speaker 3: country needs to hand out free stuff to black people.
Speaker 3: That is to say that this country has actively harmed
Speaker 3: and stood in the way of the progress of black people.
Speaker 3: And now often enough it's our more conservative brothers and
Speaker 3: sisters on the right that throw their hands up and say, hey, look, man,
Speaker 3: that was a long time ago. We were all born
Speaker 3: in the early eighties and the late seventies or whatever.
Speaker 3: We all had a similar go at it that don't
Speaker 3: bring that stuff up, but they don't look at the
Speaker 3: legacy of it. They don't look at how those false narratives,
Speaker 3: those falsehoods have influenced public opinion. At white people's public
Speaker 3: opinion in particular, but black people's public opinion too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely grew up hearing the fatherless who meet it
Speaker 4: and my father wasn't there, So for you, it was
Speaker 4: like a real So then I knew, before I knew
Speaker 4: what I wanted to be when I grew up, what
Speaker 4: career choice I wanted that I wanted to be a
Speaker 4: dad because I wanted to make sure that what I
Speaker 4: was feeling was not felt by someone else. So I
Speaker 4: wanted to be a dad so that I could be
Speaker 4: that present, loving thing that I craved and missed as
Speaker 4: a child, you know what I mean. So, and people
Speaker 4: around me who had a similar experience very much believed
Speaker 4: the idea that fathers were absent, even though I had
Speaker 4: multiple neighbors whose dads I essentially grew up with because
Speaker 4: they were very present. You know, you take that one
Speaker 4: example and you blow it up and.
Speaker 3: Then you put it in are going to be that
Speaker 3: their biases will be confirmed by this data that you're providing,
Speaker 3: whether it's accurate or not.
Speaker 1: You only need an example to point to ye.
Speaker 3: So I understand that, And I kind of went through
Speaker 3: a similar thing because when I was younger, my mother
Speaker 3: and my father they split up and my mother moved
Speaker 3: to Arizona. My father stayed in California, right, So, growing up,
Speaker 3: then you start hearing that, you know, black men are
Speaker 3: horrible fathers and they leave their kids and this.
Speaker 1: And that and that.
Speaker 4: It shout out to my mom for never perpetuating that
Speaker 4: states type and never saying anything bad about my father,
Speaker 4: never like beating him down to lift herself up. She
Speaker 4: let me love him, She let me miss him, she
Speaker 4: let me admire him. She even let him break my
Speaker 4: heart right, She let me get my hopes up because
Speaker 4: she wanted me to believe in fatherhood. She wanted me
Speaker 4: to love my dad even if he wasn't perfect, and
Speaker 4: even though even if things weren't great between them, she
Speaker 4: still wanted.
Speaker 1: To allow him to be the hero that I wanted.
Speaker 4: Him to be. So shout out to my mom for
Speaker 4: just being incredible in general, but specifically in that case,
Speaker 4: for letting me develop a positive thoughts and enjoy for
Speaker 4: the idea of becoming a dad. One dad didn't resent
Speaker 4: my father because he was going I just wanted to
Speaker 4: make sure that when I had the opportunity to become
Speaker 4: a dad, that I was incredible at it. And I
Speaker 4: don't know if I'm living up to that, but I
Speaker 4: am trying as hard as I possibly can too.
Speaker 3: I think that you're what you're saying. I think that's
Speaker 3: probably more commonplace than you might know. For people where
Speaker 3: their dad is not present, that experience might be a
Speaker 3: little bit more commonplace, you know, because I think that
Speaker 3: we all recognize how fatherhood impacts children. This is another
Speaker 3: thing that I know. Again, I'm doing this for memory,
Speaker 3: but please look it up. Outcomes for children that grow
Speaker 3: up in a single parent household where the mother is
Speaker 3: the single parent are way worse overall than outcomes for
Speaker 3: children that grow up in a two parent household with
Speaker 3: a mother and a father. I think everybody can agree
Speaker 3: with that, right, Having a mother and a father and
Speaker 3: a home shapes the outcomes for the children's way better
Speaker 3: than just a single mother.
Speaker 1: Okay with me, all right?
Speaker 3: Having a single father household, the outcomes for the children
Speaker 3: is identical to a dual parent household. So having a father,
Speaker 3: at least in terms of the outcomes that we value
Speaker 3: in this country, career success and school written and all
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff, fathers are way way more important
Speaker 3: based on the metrics that we're measuring. I'm not talking
Speaker 3: about love and you know that sort of stuff, because
Speaker 3: those are quality of life. Yeah, those things we can't measure.
Speaker 3: So I don't want to take anything away from moms
Speaker 3: to us, but it's Dad's Day and we need to celebrate.
Speaker 3: So dads help shape the outcomes for their children a
Speaker 3: lot more so.
Speaker 1: I think that mothers know that.
Speaker 3: So I think your experience is something that a lot
Speaker 3: of people who have had access to that experience would
Speaker 3: agree with. Now I want to read this again. This
Speaker 3: is from what is it?
Speaker 1: Newsweek? Yeah, newsweek? Okay.
Speaker 3: Counting by the number of children rather than the number
Speaker 3: of fathers presents a different picture. The Census Bureau reports
Speaker 3: that slightly more than half of black children live in
Speaker 3: homes headed by one parent. Again, the leg see of
Speaker 3: you know, the taking advantage of systems that are available
Speaker 3: to you and providing the best way you can, which
Speaker 3: is usually, but not always the mother. This is explained
Speaker 3: in part by that non co residential fathers having more children.
Speaker 3: It is also true that black children are more likely
Speaker 3: than others to be born out of wedlock, but neither
Speaker 3: of these things makes children fatherless.
Speaker 1: That's what you said, Q. All right. Millions of kids
Speaker 1: live with.
Speaker 3: Their fathers half the time or at least part of
Speaker 3: the time through joint custody arrangements, But children generally have
Speaker 3: one legal address, which is particularly important for purposes of
Speaker 3: determining school districts. Most often the legal address is the mother's.
Speaker 3: This is a major reason that father and listeners statistics
Speaker 3: in general are overblown. Father's homes all too often are
Speaker 3: not counted officially as being homes with children. Mine is
Speaker 3: though also some unmarried couples live together and making the
Speaker 3: marriage statistics even more misleading. And then I want to
Speaker 3: read this and we'll be done. While among fathers who
Speaker 3: live with their children, black dads are in many ways
Speaker 3: the most involved in their kids' lives. Black fathers seventy
Speaker 3: percent were most likely to have bathed, dressed, diapered, or
Speaker 3: helped their children use the toilet every day, compared with
Speaker 3: white and Hispanic fathers sixty percent and forty five percent
Speaker 3: compared to black fathers, which is seventy percent. That's from
Speaker 3: the CDC. Also, more black fathers than white fathers took
Speaker 3: their children to and from activities every day and helped
Speaker 3: their kids with homework every day. The lead researcher told
Speaker 3: that the study marked quote the debunking of the black
Speaker 3: fathers being absent myth unquote. All right, we have to
Speaker 3: move on, but please continue your research.
Speaker 1: And happy Father's Day again.
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Speaker 1: Operation WB. The WB is.
Speaker 3: We've abreviate abbreviated on this show because we want to
Speaker 3: be as sensitive as we can. This is a racist term.
Speaker 3: Most folks would agree that it's a racist term nowadays,
Speaker 3: but this is an official US government operation that was
Speaker 3: named Operation WB. If you want, you can google it yourself,
Speaker 3: but it is I've abbreviated it so that we can
Speaker 3: read this story, but it's not actually called that. It's
Speaker 3: a slur for immigrants from Mexico. This moment is meant
Speaker 3: to show love and to shine light on the history
Speaker 3: of our Mexican American brothers and sisters. To and I
Speaker 3: have familial connections to Mexican people, and we love our
Speaker 3: brothers and sisters. We just want to take a moment
Speaker 3: to make sure that we're doing this as best we can,
Speaker 3: being as sympathetic because we can be alcipriting the biggest
Speaker 3: mass deportation of undocumented workers in the United States history.
Speaker 3: As many as one point three million people may have
Speaker 3: been swept up in the Eisenhower era Campaign with a
Speaker 3: Racist Name, which was designed to root out undocumented Mexicans
Speaker 3: from American society. The short lived operation used military style
Speaker 3: tactics to remove Mexican immigrants, some of them American citizens,
Speaker 3: from the United States through millions of sorry. Though millions
Speaker 3: of Mexicans had legally entered the country through joint immigration
Speaker 3: programs with the first half of the twentieth century, operation
Speaker 3: was designed to send them back to Mexico with the
Speaker 3: help of the Mexican government, which sought to return which
Speaker 3: sought the return of Mexican nationals to alleviate a labor shortage.
Speaker 3: Border patrol agents and local officials use military techniques and
Speaker 3: engaged in coordinated tactical operation to remove the immigrants. Along
Speaker 3: the way, they used widespread racial stereotypes to justify their
Speaker 3: sometimes brutal treatment of immigrants inside the United States, anti
Speaker 3: Mexican sentiment was pervasive and harsh. Portrayals was pervasive and harsh.
Speaker 3: Portrayals of Mexican immigrants as dirty, disease bearing, and irresponsible
Speaker 3: were the norm sound familiar, to sound like unfortunately, sound
Speaker 3: like somebody in the past few years that was maybe.
Speaker 4: President, fortunately all too familiar, and all too decent, all right.
Speaker 3: During Operation WB, tens of thousands of immigrants were shoved
Speaker 3: into buses, boats, and planes and sent to often unfamiliar
Speaker 3: parts of Mexico, where they struggled to rebuild their lives,
Speaker 3: and Chicago.
Speaker 1: Three plans a week were.
Speaker 3: Filled with immigrants and flown to Mexico. In Texas, twenty
Speaker 3: five percent of all the immigrants deported were crammed into
Speaker 3: boats later compared to slave ships, while others died of
Speaker 3: some stroke, disease, and other causes while in custody. It
Speaker 3: is not clear how many American citizens were swept up
Speaker 3: in Operation WB but in the United States, but the
Speaker 3: United States later claimed that one point three million people
Speaker 3: total were deported. However, some historians dispute that claim. Though
Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of people were ensnared, says historian Kelly
Speaker 3: Little Hernandez, the number of deportees was drastically lower than
Speaker 3: the United States reported, likely closer to three hundred thousand,
Speaker 3: due to immigrants who were caught, deported and captured again
Speaker 3: after re immigrating was possible to estimate the total number
Speaker 3: of people deported under the program. Mass deportations of Mexican
Speaker 3: immigrants from the US to date to the Great Depression,
Speaker 3: when the federal government began at way of deportations rather
Speaker 3: than include Mexican born workers in the New Deal welfare programs.
Speaker 3: According to historian Francisco Balderama, the US deported over one
Speaker 3: million Mexisican nationals, sixty percent of whom were US citizens
Speaker 3: of Mexican descent, during the nineteen thirties. Balderama told Fresh
Speaker 3: Airs Terry Gross that the program was referred to as
Speaker 3: repatriation to give it a sense of being voluntary in reality,
Speaker 3: though it was anything but. Despite a widespread belief among
Speaker 3: native born Americans that Mexicans came to the United States
Speaker 3: to steal jobs from American workers, many were invited to
Speaker 3: the country to work in its fields. In nineteen forty two,
Speaker 3: the US Mexican Farm Labour Program, also known as Operation
Speaker 3: Rossero after the Spanish term rom manual laborer, began. The
Speaker 3: program funneled Mexicans into the United States on a legal
Speaker 3: temporary basis in exchange for guaranteed wages and humane treatment
Speaker 3: an attempt by the Mexican government to stave off the
Speaker 3: discrimination faced by earlier immigrants. However, not all employers wanted
Speaker 3: to follow the guidelines or pay the thirty cent an
Speaker 3: hour guaranteed wage, which is would be about four dollars
Speaker 3: and fifty one cents in modern dollars. Nor did the
Speaker 3: me Mexican government want Mexicans to work in Texas, which
Speaker 3: continued its discrimination against Mexican people, and the state was
Speaker 3: excluded from the program between nineteen forty two and nineteen
Speaker 3: forty seven. That's where WB's came in. The racial epithet
Speaker 3: was used to describe Mexicans who illegally entered Texas by
Speaker 3: crossing the Rio Grande River. The government turned a blind
Speaker 3: eye to Texan's employment of these undocumented intermigrants, even after
Speaker 3: hiring undocumented workers was declared illegal. The fact is they
Speaker 3: needed these workers to work the fields.
Speaker 1: Not past tense.
Speaker 3: Still yes, absolutely all right, and estimated four point six
Speaker 3: million Mexicans entered the country legally through the brassero program
Speaker 3: between forty two and sixty four, and states like California
Speaker 3: soon became dependent on brassero workers. At the same time,
Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of Mexican workers crossed the border without
Speaker 3: permission and found jobs on the farms of employers willing
Speaker 3: to flout the law. In nineteen fifty three, the government
Speaker 3: decided to had enough by refusing to participate in the
Speaker 3: Brassero program. South Texas farmers essentially received their labor for
Speaker 3: less money than farmers who complied and border patrol.
Speaker 1: Had Carl Harland B.
Speaker 3: Carter, sorry a convicted murder who killed a Latino as
Speaker 3: a teenager in nineteen thirty one and later headed the
Speaker 3: National Rifle Association, was frustrated by the sheer number of
Speaker 3: Mexican immigrants, both legal and undocumented, in the United States.
Speaker 3: He convinced President Iron Eisenhower to ramp up immigration and
Speaker 3: enforcement efforts. In nineteen fifty three, Carter tried to get
Speaker 3: the National Guard involved in a forerunner of Operation of WB,
Speaker 3: but since the US military is not supposed to be
Speaker 3: used to enforce domestic laws, he couldn't gain authorization to
Speaker 3: do so. Instead, in nineteen fifty four, the government introduced
Speaker 3: Operation WB, which used border patrol resources instead. Operation WB
Speaker 3: may not have had troops, but used military tactics and
Speaker 3: propaganda to achieve its goals. It was headed in part
Speaker 3: by General Joseph Swing, head of the Immigration and Naturalization Service,
Speaker 3: and was planned like a war strike. Okay, sorry, that's
Speaker 3: a lot to read. I was reading fast because I
Speaker 3: wanted to get it all in, but I still didn't finish.
Speaker 3: Please go to history dot Gov and read about this.
Speaker 3: Then you'll start to understand the basis of anti Mexican
Speaker 3: sentiment in this country and why it's very, very dangerous
Speaker 3: and harmful to our Mexican brothers and sisters, Mexican American
Speaker 3: brothers and sisters, and Mexican busins history anyway, that's going
Speaker 3: to do it for us here on CZIG Cipher. So
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