Speaker 1: All the media. You forced to face it. I'm winning
Speaker 1: ward fast. I don't remember the rap Hood Politics, you
Speaker 1: face it. I'm goin in the course of patience, giving
Speaker 1: reward the waiting list in the hooks, informing y'all my mission.
Speaker 1: I'm clear on my mission. Yes, y'all, don't. I don't
Speaker 1: remember my own rap. That's crazy. Did y'all know we
Speaker 1: did like a whole? Like we didn't do a whole.
Speaker 1: We only drop three of the seven songs we made
Speaker 1: of the Hood Politics mixtape. I kind of don't know
Speaker 1: what happened with that. Oh, I think we just got busy. Anyway,
Speaker 1: what's up, y'all. I'm trying not to let my levels peak.
Speaker 1: I apologize their matt Alsowski killing the beat softly. So
Speaker 1: we're here and we want to run a rewinding selector
Speaker 1: uh episode. Let me tell you why, because we already
Speaker 1: did the work before I get to what exactly we're
Speaker 1: gonna rewind about. Thank you for everybody who's been streaming
Speaker 1: the music. You know the Passion Project joint on May sewid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're dropping a song called Don't Mind Me with the
Speaker 1: Hommi Shad who's been on the show. Shads are a
Speaker 1: Canadian correspondent. And remember I told y'all he's like probably
Speaker 1: he is now the greatest rapper in Canada period. You
Speaker 1: caught the shade and yeah, songs called don't Mind Me,
Speaker 1: so get ready for that. I ain't got no pre
Speaker 1: save links or none of that, but there it is.
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna rerun Los p de Adio because we
Speaker 1: have to talk about Osalvador and Buguele. Now, what you're
Speaker 1: going to here is an episode we did last year
Speaker 1: about him and when he became the president of El
Speaker 1: Salvador and what he did in relation to the cartels
Speaker 1: and the street gangs that have been ravaging El Salvador
Speaker 1: for so many years. The reason why it's so unique,
Speaker 1: not unique, The reason why it's it's so interesting and
Speaker 1: relative to us as and I'm saying this as far
Speaker 1: as like our original use of this episode is because
Speaker 1: it's so much like mass incarceration in America, the experience
Speaker 1: that people of my graduating class experienced in terms of
Speaker 1: like gang sweeps and like war on drugs and just
Speaker 1: to sprinkle some crack on them era. Some of you
Speaker 1: youngers may understand the he had a gun on him argument.
Speaker 1: He was attacking me I felt unsafe. Argument we get
Speaker 1: from the police which was like, well you made that up.
Speaker 1: That was just your green light to treat us like animals.
Speaker 1: And why it's so complicated and why it's so particularly
Speaker 1: something that we wrestle with here is because I would
Speaker 1: not wish the nineties on anyone in terms of our
Speaker 1: experience with the La Street gangs, Like there were elements
Speaker 1: that were super fun. Yes we created culture. Yes we
Speaker 1: lived the way we lived. Yes we made some of
Speaker 1: the dopest rap music you've ever heard in your life.
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's a lot of adrenaline. It's pretty exhilarating,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. It also wiped out a generation
Speaker 1: of men who are here. It also had us going
Speaker 1: to funerals as preteens. We're going to funerals before we
Speaker 1: hit puberty of our friends, like the the the amount
Speaker 1: of debt, like the the heightened like fight or flight
Speaker 1: that you existed in at all times. That's why you
Speaker 1: you know a lot of reasons why Yo gen X
Speaker 1: big homies if they from where we from, are as
Speaker 1: callous as they are because of what we went through.
Speaker 1: And in the middle of that was the third biggest
Speaker 1: and most powerful gang we all truly had to deal with,
Speaker 1: which was LAPD And this clean up the streets attitude
Speaker 1: New York with the street sweepers like these, uh, I
Speaker 1: mean just where two or more are gathered energy, there
Speaker 1: are gangs in the midst you understand, like your your
Speaker 1: your if you wore a Raiders hat, if you wore
Speaker 1: you know, a hat backwards, a Rams hat. And you
Speaker 1: know now nowadays, you know with these young lings that
Speaker 1: had to do mean something, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But like White Sox Raiders, Like I remember we couldn't
Speaker 1: wear Raiders jerseys to school because they were gang affiliated.
Speaker 1: You can't just be a fan of the Raiders. Your
Speaker 1: your affiliation has to do with your the location that
Speaker 1: you live in. I remember dudes getting off probation or
Speaker 1: getting out and being on probation, they be on house
Speaker 1: arrests and you have to go back to jail if
Speaker 1: you consort with your neighborhood gang. I'm like, well, where
Speaker 1: do you want me to live? That's that's my house,
Speaker 1: Like a consorting with my cousin my own Like what
Speaker 1: do you want me to do? My house? My granny
Speaker 1: house is the kickback? Like where like even if I'm
Speaker 1: trying to be good. The squarest of people get swooped
Speaker 1: up into that, and and the police don't ask questions,
Speaker 1: they just you know, and and if you if you
Speaker 1: not really about that life, you in a situation where
Speaker 1: I wish I was making these stories up where the
Speaker 1: police would be like, give me something, I need something.
Speaker 1: What's going on with your's neighborhood set. You're like, look, man,
Speaker 1: I own gang bang. I don't have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with that. And they'd be like, oh word, man, what's this.
Speaker 1: They pull out a you know, a fitth a crack
Speaker 1: or something or syringe. They're like, oh, man, I think
Speaker 1: we found some drugs on you, and you like, you
Speaker 1: know you didn't you know that's not mine. I'm like,
Speaker 1: hey man, we found it on you. Give me some information.
Speaker 1: So you were like, what do you want me to do?
Speaker 1: You want me to snitch? And then I remember I
Speaker 1: had to be like, listen, dude, I'm telling you right now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make something up because I truly don't know.
Speaker 1: I like I listen, they would DJ quick and problem
Speaker 1: or goes by Jason Martin now told this story, and
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, like I if I'm lying, I'm flying.
Speaker 1: This stuff is true. Police will pick you up, hem
Speaker 1: you up for something, pretend like they found drugs on you,
Speaker 1: put you in a squad car and drop you off
Speaker 1: in your rival neighborhood and like and just feel like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well we're gonna let them do like this, Just this
Speaker 1: level of cruelty that would even if you desired to
Speaker 1: see your neighborhoods cleaned up, if you're gonna treat us
Speaker 1: like this, I don't want no part of that. People
Speaker 1: go in to prison, nice guys, and they come out
Speaker 1: murderers because you have to survive. We had mandatory minimums,
Speaker 1: like the eighteen to one laws, like all these things
Speaker 1: that we existed in that were clearly, clearly just designed
Speaker 1: to just get bodies off the streets. Will you take
Speaker 1: that attitude and you move it out of LA and
Speaker 1: you make it into an entire country. And your grandma
Speaker 1: and I am happy because she could finally walk to
Speaker 1: the store, but in her being able to freely walk
Speaker 1: to the store, her nephew got himed up, who was like,
Speaker 1: is a schoolboy just a nerd? So this both guilty
Speaker 1: and victims is a motif that as a person of color,
Speaker 1: specifically in LA and graduating when I graduated, made this
Speaker 1: Bougueli character be very familiar to us. We've experienced this.
Speaker 1: I'm a victim of gang violence, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I'm also a victim of police overreach and brutality.
Speaker 1: Is when it's like, does the is the solution? You know?
Speaker 1: Is the is the medicine as bad as the disease
Speaker 1: type beat? But you know Trump liked that He like
Speaker 1: a man gung ho to just like do what you
Speaker 1: gotta do, and I like a man who willing to
Speaker 1: just do whatever you need to do for the bread.
Speaker 1: Right now, the story is I've heard you, sir, You've
Speaker 1: heard his name before, Obago Garcia. He is one of
Speaker 1: hundreds of people who are not from El Salvador, even
Speaker 1: though he is or not, who have been deported now,
Speaker 1: whether they are victims of a mistake or actual gang
Speaker 1: members due to this Alien Enemies Act, which what we'll
Speaker 1: have to get into later, they didn't get any due process,
Speaker 1: like you, there was no you. This is why on
Speaker 1: it can happen here. Mia keeps talking about black bagging
Speaker 1: people because she talking about like this is how really
Speaker 1: could get this is something that has existed in other
Speaker 1: countries and it's happening here. We can just put a
Speaker 1: black bag on them and send them somewhere. I don't
Speaker 1: care where. Not here and where has brought well Gaile
Speaker 1: into our news cycle again. So we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: his background and then I'm gonna come back at the
Speaker 1: end and talk about the Supreme Court stuff. Right now,
Speaker 1: all right, blessing all the sessions every time that the
Speaker 1: class D. I won't hold you, but I tried to
Speaker 1: hold you. Give me tween minutes and some of hitming
Speaker 1: you today Gemmicks a person revolutionary school and all you're
Speaker 1: going to boyd, I laughed, Vato like follow me, y'a'm
Speaker 1: a boy thing. Got skiing on. That's what I'm being on.
Speaker 1: I being going that what's so food? Where you votos
Speaker 1: from me? A sock jack homie today this episode, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'll relate to anything more closer than
Speaker 1: the narrative of this story. Bog like a a l
Speaker 1: Vato audio. This is full el President and they el
Speaker 1: half a bougee Bogeli that food down to the ground
Speaker 1: day he out here sock checking food. Sock Jack Homie,
Speaker 1: you don't know what the sock check is. You don't
Speaker 1: know enough Atos. This is the El Salvador episod so
Speaker 1: about President Bugle because there's this is the convergence, the
Speaker 1: literal convergence of gang life and politics. The parallels in
Speaker 1: my life. One the things that I personally experienced, because
Speaker 1: the origin story of this was here La, specifically the
Speaker 1: part of La that I was around, y'all know, I'll
Speaker 1: talk about all the time I grow with Atos.
Speaker 2: This.
Speaker 1: I've never felt more equipped to talk about a topic
Speaker 1: than this was. And even what he what we're actually
Speaker 1: going to talk about later on in the show is
Speaker 1: like it was he it was the nineties like this was.
Speaker 1: I've never felt more equipped to talk about this anyway.
Speaker 2: Bogaile said, SoC check, homie hood, politics, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: you know what los politicosvidio and.
Speaker 1: Okay, when dame A kick it creaky, listen this episode
Speaker 1: on some r lebo call in our A. I want
Speaker 1: to send and dedicate this song through Mayavado Creeper. Keep
Speaker 1: your head up. I am your buppet and your baby
Speaker 1: side ice. She will always stay down for you. And
Speaker 1: then you play the song I wish y'all knew about
Speaker 1: the r le Bow calling hour. It was he just
Speaker 1: passed away. And this white man became such an important
Speaker 1: part to l a street culture, uh specifically Latino culture,
Speaker 1: because he would play like oldies, these like old soul
Speaker 1: songs and foods, would call in and dedicate songs to
Speaker 1: like their loved ones, and most of the time it
Speaker 1: be loved ones they had locked up. It's a very
Speaker 1: l a thing. Rest in peace, Arleba. This episode of politics,
Speaker 1: we have to talk about that. We have to talk
Speaker 1: about El Salvador and President Buglee and it's there is
Speaker 1: a layer of complication that I want to lay out,
Speaker 1: but you got to understand the history and the context
Speaker 1: and why I feel so connected to this. Early nineties,
Speaker 1: there was a civil war that news flashed. America played
Speaker 1: a big role in having to do with El Salvador
Speaker 1: had a gentry, wealthy landowners who essentially ran the country
Speaker 1: and was the government was just like basically their toys.
Speaker 1: America played a role in this, which again needs its
Speaker 1: whole other topic. But all that to say that started
Speaker 1: bringing El Salvadorans fleeing El Salvador, some getting exiled, some
Speaker 1: getting deported, some fleeing to America and where they came
Speaker 1: was MacArthur Park. MacArthur Park is now let me talk
Speaker 1: gentrified CALLI to try to tie this up for you.
Speaker 1: First of all, MacArthur Park was where the radiotron existed,
Speaker 1: like if you remember the movies Breaking and Breaking to
Speaker 1: Electric Boogaloo. It was the first like early eighties hip
Speaker 1: hop spot was at the radiotron, and the radiotron was
Speaker 1: a MacArthur Park. Later on, MacArthur Park, because of like
Speaker 1: I said, what was going on in our society, became
Speaker 1: the hub of the El Salvadorian community. They landed right
Speaker 1: in the area next to Pico Union, which is right
Speaker 1: next to Echo Park. And then and then to the
Speaker 1: east of them is like downtown La. Downtown La has
Speaker 1: my child. It was basically a no man's land like
Speaker 1: it's It was like blade Runner over there until La
Speaker 1: Live and all that stuff and then it got all hit.
Speaker 1: But before that, nobody went to Downtown La. But east
Speaker 1: of it, I mean, but west of it, you know,
Speaker 1: you would have, like I said, you have MacArthur Park,
Speaker 1: Wiltshire District, Korea Town. All of that was going west.
Speaker 1: So that's like kind of north of like I said,
Speaker 1: I am from originally south central. This is all north
Speaker 1: of the ten Freeway separates north and south, and then
Speaker 1: the one ten freeway separates east and west. So this
Speaker 1: is northwest of downtown. Now next to that is Peaco Union,
Speaker 1: which is liam Vatoland. North of them is Echo Park.
Speaker 1: You remember the movie. You probably don't remember the movie,
Speaker 1: but me Vi I Loka Echo Park now is where
Speaker 1: you could do goat yoga because it's completely gentrified, right
Speaker 1: next to historic Filipino Town, which was like also, these
Speaker 1: were gang territories that were already organized, borders were set,
Speaker 1: everybody knew what it was. Cemit was settled, the Salvadorians
Speaker 1: came here. And the sense is, what's so different about
Speaker 1: My wife brought this up, what's so different about the
Speaker 1: Asian It's I hate saying it like this, but the
Speaker 1: Asian experience and the Latino experience is and my wife
Speaker 1: has made this mistake before. You. The more you hang
Speaker 1: around Asian people, you could tell they you could tell
Speaker 1: they don't look alike like and but they all have
Speaker 1: their same language, they all have their they all have
Speaker 1: different languages Korean, Japanese, Cantonese, Mandarin. So because Asia wasn't
Speaker 1: colonized in the way that Central in South America was.
Speaker 1: They all speak Spanish, right, so there's a shared give
Speaker 1: or take some Portuguese. There's a shared like language among
Speaker 1: the Latino diaspora, you know, give or take a few
Speaker 1: indigenous folks, but they all speak Spanish. And you could
Speaker 1: take the most hardened, the most Azilain Mexicano and they
Speaker 1: can't tell you the difference. They can't look at the
Speaker 1: Thesalvadorian coast Rican and look at them and say they
Speaker 1: you can't tell by their look. You're going to talk
Speaker 1: about their accent and when they tell you unless there
Speaker 1: are certain tell tale signs. There are certain characteristics, certain
Speaker 1: ways you carry yourself, certain way you understand that are
Speaker 1: culturally because these are in fact different countries in different cultures. Right. So,
Speaker 1: but when they got here, y'all all spoke span it. Now,
Speaker 1: by the time they got here, you have to remember
Speaker 1: the Mexican American. First of all, there was such thing
Speaker 1: as a Mexican a Chicano. We didn't already had Chikano movie.
Speaker 1: We didn't have the Zutsu Riots, we didn't have the
Speaker 1: brown berets like they have established themselves as a part
Speaker 1: of America for decades because remember California was Mexico, so
Speaker 1: they've been here. Now, as far as the street life,
Speaker 1: these these rules are already established. There was already a
Speaker 1: gang in MacArthur Park. It's eighteenth Street b Seolcho, like
Speaker 1: one of the most notorious street gangs in the world. Now,
Speaker 1: the difference to between crips and bloods and Black gang
Speaker 1: banging and the Mexican gang banging is there's a set hierarchy.
Speaker 1: Everyone you lim runs it, which is the Mexican mafia.
Speaker 1: The prison thing. They they run the shit. Now it
Speaker 1: might be different now you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: not in that life, but the general understanding is no
Speaker 1: matter what you guys are doing on the streets, everybody
Speaker 1: pays liam because that's how a product gets here. The
Speaker 1: Coyotes comany bringing away from Mexico, you tap in with
Speaker 1: the mafia. The Mexican mafia, they run it. Reverend comes
Speaker 1: through the jail, they call the shots. There's a hierarchy.
Speaker 1: You don't kill nobody unless you get the word. It's
Speaker 1: much more like a mafia. The street warshit it's like,
Speaker 1: of course it happens, of course because you get hotheads,
Speaker 1: but like they not like crips and bloods we are.
Speaker 1: They have a corporate structure, if you will. And black folks,
Speaker 1: we bought our drugs from the Mexican You bought our
Speaker 1: drugs from the essays from you know, if you was
Speaker 1: back east, you say from the Spanish dudes, that's who
Speaker 1: you bought it from. Paco Paco. Paco got you to
Speaker 1: wait when the l Salvadorians got here. There is you
Speaker 1: have to remember among the Latino community, there is a
Speaker 1: little bit of anti this and that sentiment among each other.
Speaker 1: Mexicans traditionally don't really get along with El Salvadorians the
Speaker 1: matter of fact, there's like some prejudice there that like
Speaker 1: don't really they don't really mess with them. They have
Speaker 1: like derogatory names for Salvadorians, you know, in the same
Speaker 1: way that now listen, I'm not saying this in on
Speaker 1: the eye horse. And same way black people have about Africa,
Speaker 1: the same way Caribbeans, Caribbean people have about Africans, the
Speaker 1: way Africans have about American black people, like we have
Speaker 1: our own self hate in the community. They don't necessarily
Speaker 1: get along. So you got people who were fighting in
Speaker 1: a civil war in El Salvador against each other. Once
Speaker 1: they get here, oh we arm in arm. We all
Speaker 1: we got. See that's how the immigrant population work. When
Speaker 1: you get to a place and you realize like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: were the only ones that we all we got is
Speaker 1: us And you jump into a place that is so
Speaker 1: racially charged as is America as a whole, let alone California.
Speaker 1: And when they got here in the nineties, this is
Speaker 1: this is the height when they got here. So you
Speaker 1: landed in a place that was already violent, with an
Speaker 1: already established rules where even your own rasa doesn't they
Speaker 1: not even messing with you. So they was like, well shit,
Speaker 1: they formed their own hood and mess thirteen Maltruca. So
Speaker 1: they formed their own gang. And the difference between them,
Speaker 1: at least from our perspective, or as in black people,
Speaker 1: serffence between them and like the vathos we were used to.
Speaker 1: The vatos, we were used to again they had a
Speaker 1: code and we was in business together. You stayed at
Speaker 1: a turf. We stayed at a turf. They stayed at ours.
Speaker 1: Like I kid you not the city I live in now.
Speaker 1: I never came here. We black people, we were not allowed.
Speaker 1: I just and It was understood this was they hood.
Speaker 1: You you better lead them about those alone. They take
Speaker 1: that shit like I was seen as a threat. They
Speaker 1: took it very silly. I came over here for a
Speaker 1: few parties and learned quickly I'm not welcome over here.
Speaker 1: The only person black people over here in this city
Speaker 1: was will I Am because he was born in this
Speaker 1: part of town. But fam we didn't come. And as
Speaker 1: far as like the street stuff, it was just understood,
Speaker 1: this was they world. We were in business together. How
Speaker 1: was we supposed to know the difference between a Mexican
Speaker 1: and a l Salvadorian, which created an issue. We was
Speaker 1: in business, but I can't tell the difference. You beefed
Speaker 1: in jail like the war, and shit happened in jail.
Speaker 1: The turf was the street shit that happened. But like
Speaker 1: Cris was more worried about other black people, was more
Speaker 1: worried about other cripsets, other bloods. We was more worried
Speaker 1: about that vothos. You just left them alone, like you're on,
Speaker 1: won't fuck with them. They had their own shit, and
Speaker 1: whenever we had classes, it was bad, I mean bad.
Speaker 1: Long Beach probably got it the worst. Essentially, we an
Speaker 1: should to do with that. That's y'all shit. We as
Speaker 1: in black people until it came to business because our
Speaker 1: Salvador figured out, well, for Columbia to get to Mexico,
Speaker 1: you got to go throughout Salvador, and they figured out
Speaker 1: black people can't tell the difference between us. You assert
Speaker 1: yourself in the supply chain. All you know is Wan
Speaker 1: Carlo pulled up with the weight and then Miguel Rodriguez
Speaker 1: pulled up and he like, I got your way. You
Speaker 1: like what nigga got, you already bought it, bought it
Speaker 1: from who. I don't know, your homeboy one cars meigg
Speaker 1: I don't know. So then now Mexican's mad at us
Speaker 1: because they feel like we cheating and through y'all just
Speaker 1: walked off with a couple hundred bands and now they beefing,
Speaker 1: they like, and now they mad at Now they mad
Speaker 1: at the Mexicans, and now they's that's they thing we like.
Speaker 1: I mean, nigga, I don't know, like y'all get y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all all the same to us, nigga racism. But it
Speaker 1: became a thing like MS. Thirteen put they and they
Speaker 1: were so terrifying and niggas walked around with machetes. I'm
Speaker 1: not kidding machetes, but that's because yeah, in Central America,
Speaker 1: that's pretty normal, you know what I'm saying, Like you
Speaker 1: cutting down trees number one and then number two. Like
Speaker 1: I said, the difference between I didn't get to this point,
Speaker 1: but the difference between the two was like like I said,
Speaker 1: the the Vathos were they was very organized, they had
Speaker 1: a they had a corporate way of running things. Salvadorians
Speaker 1: were brawlers, they were machette just the level of I
Speaker 1: I cannot stress the MS thirteen. I know there's a
Speaker 1: lot of like political propaganda, pun intended, all this extras
Speaker 1: that they be putting on it because they doing it
Speaker 1: because they're racist. I'm doing it because I was here
Speaker 1: fam Man Truca MS thirteen stayed a hell out they
Speaker 1: way and thirteen different is Saudeniel like different than Northaniel,
Speaker 1: which is like which was Thoris. It's or they got there,
Speaker 1: they got their rules, like the Latinos got their rules.
Speaker 1: It's a little different. But Thrucha MS thirteen they had
Speaker 1: something to prove because it was so few of them,
Speaker 1: and you stepping into a system that like there's no
Speaker 1: work there's no help. They just realized that, like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: America's racist. You just think I'm They've probably been called
Speaker 1: they were called Mexican probably everywhere they went, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So for them, they was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: what are we supposed to do? And these as kids
Speaker 1: who was fighting in civil wars, you know when you
Speaker 1: come from a war torn third world country. That's why,
Speaker 1: like didn't nobody mess with the Cambodians, didn't bight mess
Speaker 1: with them Micronesian you know what I'm saying. Like when
Speaker 1: them Asian gangs started coming over here, it was like Nigga,
Speaker 1: they fight armies, so like their level of violence is
Speaker 1: so different than ours, Like it's violent, but it's like,
Speaker 1: oh fam they they used to fight in military anyway,
Speaker 1: Marucha Like it was like Soword Machette broad Daylight. Like
Speaker 1: they just were the I cannot under I can't overstate
Speaker 1: how violent they were as a gang. Bad Okay. Now
Speaker 1: what happened next was the Great Deportation. When the War
Speaker 1: on Drugs and the gang injunction started happening in California,
Speaker 1: food started to get deported. Now we were mean black
Speaker 1: people was facing mass incarceration. A lot of the Mexicans
Speaker 1: were facing mass incarceration because we live here, we were,
Speaker 1: we're you know, multi generational, we've been here forever. If
Speaker 1: you get deported, nigga, you get deported. And they was
Speaker 1: dropping them out, Salvadorians off by the bus back. You
Speaker 1: think deportation is crazy. Now they was rounding them niggas
Speaker 1: up and sending them home. Then Vothos was getting sent
Speaker 1: home full where and what they did when they got
Speaker 1: home was exactly what happened with black people when they
Speaker 1: got sent off to live with their aunties in the South.
Speaker 1: Explain that after this break, all right, we're back. I
Speaker 1: have very distinct memories of because I'm an old being
Speaker 1: on three way on the phone with you know, a
Speaker 1: little girls. I was trying to holler Ad and some
Speaker 1: of the hummies whatever. We would be asking about one
Speaker 1: of the friends that we just ain't seen in a while.
Speaker 1: I think I may have told this story before on
Speaker 1: the show, but like this was a normal interaction where
Speaker 1: we would be like, am I seeing Andre? What was up? Andre?
Speaker 1: And Andre went to go spend the summer in Arkansas
Speaker 1: or Memphis or Atlanta with his auntie or he had
Speaker 1: to go live with his grandma, and then he'd have
Speaker 1: to stay why because he was getting in trouble. Once
Speaker 1: you hit age of recruitment out here your best bet,
Speaker 1: a lot of families decided they would just send they
Speaker 1: boys away, go live with your auntie. It's too violent
Speaker 1: out here, right. You starting to make bad decisions. Man,
Speaker 1: They gonna like, you're gonna go out there worked in
Speaker 1: fields and really realize what's going on. You get sent
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, You get sent to all these hotbeds Okay,
Speaker 1: see Tulsa, all these cities where before the Great Migration
Speaker 1: where we came from, we got sent back to stay
Speaker 1: with the aunties. Now we would have it also like
Speaker 1: the Latino homies. It would be more like they'd have
Speaker 1: to go work. It would be the middle of the
Speaker 1: year and they'd have to go to Mexico to work
Speaker 1: with their grandpa. Then they would be back. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you just had to go work
Speaker 1: a field, and you just had to go back. They
Speaker 1: needed money. You're a thea needs money, so you have
Speaker 1: to go down there at work. That's just what it
Speaker 1: was with us, though I can say distinctly purposefully, we
Speaker 1: were sent off to try to avoid the gang life.
Speaker 1: And for us out here in Cali, that person would
Speaker 1: cease to exist, like they would just fall off the
Speaker 1: phases of the earthly. I don't really are, it's just
Speaker 1: it's done, like you just never think about them again,
Speaker 1: like they were gone. And I never connected the dots
Speaker 1: because in Kansas City there's a neighborhood crypt there's a
Speaker 1: Rolling sixty gang. There's neighborhood in OKC. In Tulsa there's bloods.
Speaker 1: There's all these neighborhoods. There's all these hoods to playboy gangsters,
Speaker 1: all these sixties twenties photies, all these things that are
Speaker 1: named after actual streets in California. It's called Rolling sixties
Speaker 1: because that's they were in the sixtieth blocks, Jo said.
Speaker 1: And then you'd find them, and I, for the life
Speaker 1: of me, could not understand, like why y'all got gangs
Speaker 1: named after California streets, Nigga, it's the kids that got
Speaker 1: sent off when we was in middle school. They just
Speaker 1: went there and got it cracking and started creating sets
Speaker 1: in their neighbor and they could run. You'd run. You
Speaker 1: were kings. You came from this place where you learned
Speaker 1: all the game everything you needed to do because you
Speaker 1: had to survive where you were. You just went out
Speaker 1: there and you just ruled the world. They had it
Speaker 1: an app been on a microcosm in America in California suburbs. Yo, Yo, mama,
Speaker 1: get a house, get get a tax return, you move
Speaker 1: out to the burbs. Oh you like, oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: run this, do you know what I'm saying? Until somebody
Speaker 1: else's family from Long Beach or something get get a
Speaker 1: tax returned. They go out there and then and that
Speaker 1: nigga just as thorough as you are, like, uh, now
Speaker 1: we got issues. But it was such a normal occurrences.
Speaker 1: I remember that there was a documentary in the Knights
Speaker 1: called Banging in Little Rock. Could not wrap my main
Speaker 1: my mind around Little Rock, Arkansas having gangs until at
Speaker 1: a full groun adult I was like, oh, yeah, we
Speaker 1: exported it. We would get sent off. And then they
Speaker 1: didn't fall off the face of the earth. They lived
Speaker 1: there and started hoods. I don't know why I ever
Speaker 1: thought about that. That's what happened else Aalvadore. They went
Speaker 1: out there and they got active. And when they got active,
Speaker 1: you have to remember they got active without any constraints
Speaker 1: of any cribs, bloods or any other or any other
Speaker 1: cholos May eighteen Street. Nobody was over there, Florence thirteen.
Speaker 1: Nobody was there. It was they world and they world.
Speaker 1: It was good God. They went out there sod checking
Speaker 1: fools left and right. And here's the thing. I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna explain what a sock check is. Sock check
Speaker 1: on me because if you know, you know thusave I
Speaker 1: know how counterintuitive this sounds, but in some ways, when
Speaker 1: there's no system of checks and balances, even among gang life,
Speaker 1: you think the violence happens, of course because of like
Speaker 1: rivalries and stuff like that. But if there's no system
Speaker 1: and you can just run the thing, then the lick
Speaker 1: becomes just the people, like you're just the citizens, because
Speaker 1: there's no time the gang wars evolved because somebody is
Speaker 1: gonna be like, well, I don't have to just listen
Speaker 1: to you, nigga, I live over here. That can make
Speaker 1: this my neighborhood, right, somebody else get deported from five
Speaker 1: years later and they start their own set. But before that,
Speaker 1: it's like the people that live there become your playing field,
Speaker 1: and they're not inoculated. They don't have the germs. They
Speaker 1: don't have the germs. They don't have the white blood
Speaker 1: cells to be able to inoculate themselves, to defend themselves
Speaker 1: in any way, because that's this isn't what they're This
Speaker 1: isn't the types of diseases they're used to. This gang shit,
Speaker 1: the gang shit in El Salvador was born in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: like it's not. It's not local grown. It was born
Speaker 1: in La So it's not they're not used to. They
Speaker 1: don't have You don't have the immune system for that.
Speaker 1: So them foods was running them streets, I mean running
Speaker 1: them like I mean you put La Chicago, Atlanta, just
Speaker 1: wrap it all in one. They was running them streets.
Speaker 1: It was bro because milk we miy just like bad.
Speaker 1: Now it's funny me doing this because I'm using all
Speaker 1: like Mexican slang. It is like, I mean, you called
Speaker 1: me on it, of course, but like bro, it was
Speaker 1: through child's like I thought you wouldn't believe what they
Speaker 1: saw anyway, it was bad. I can relate to the
Speaker 1: feelings of feeling like you're this is an open air prison,
Speaker 1: like you're you're held hostage in your own neighborhood. I
Speaker 1: can personally relate to that, like rules were very clear.
Speaker 1: There's parts of neighborhoods you just don't go to. It's
Speaker 1: grocery stores, directions walking home like you have to walk
Speaker 1: home a whole other route. There's family members you can't
Speaker 1: go visit because it's like you ain't allowed in that hood. Man,
Speaker 1: y'all think I'm exaggerating, Like, man, I need to bring
Speaker 1: somebody else on this show, like who lived through this
Speaker 1: that can avouch for what I'm telling you. When I
Speaker 1: tell you could not go to certain areas, it's like
Speaker 1: you you could not go. It's what do you mean
Speaker 1: you can't go? It's a free country. I'm allowed to go. Okay,
Speaker 1: try it. Go ahead, drive over there. See what happens.
Speaker 1: I personally had family that lived in Compton that I
Speaker 1: didn't visit until they left Compton and it we weren't
Speaker 1: allowed over there. And Salvador was living through this until
Speaker 1: this young gen z Cusp millennial comes and starts socks
Speaker 1: checking foods. All right, all right, now we're gonna get
Speaker 1: to the meat of this after this break. All right,
Speaker 1: we're back sock check, homie. The higher the sides, the
Speaker 1: down there, the food Brad lame jack live. Never snitch
Speaker 1: on your homies in respect your head. I keep it
Speaker 1: through chin all right anyway, Sorry dog, So this gen
Speaker 1: z cuss for millennial naimbu gele upper middle class dude,
Speaker 1: Palestinian immigrant moves over to Al Salvador with his family,
Speaker 1: gets his start around thirty years old. And he was
Speaker 1: a publicist. Right, so you're talking about a dude gets
Speaker 1: on the camera, hat to the back, young understands social media,
Speaker 1: knows how to talk that talk, understands TikTok. Like just
Speaker 1: next generation. The guy for now decides to get into politics,
Speaker 1: becomes the mayor of a small town you know, on
Speaker 1: the outskirts, eventually becomes the mayor of the capital city,
Speaker 1: San Salvador, and then runs for president in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: And when he runs for president, you got I remember
Speaker 1: again he a young buck. You got this like the
Speaker 1: literal opposite problem of what we got in America. What
Speaker 1: John Stewart say, man needs to have set the record
Speaker 1: for being the oldest two people to ever run for president,
Speaker 1: only breaking the record by four years set by them
Speaker 1: four years ago. Just didn't gay the opposite, young buck, right,
Speaker 1: new blood understands the world. You know, he was educated
Speaker 1: in a bilingual school. So he come from like I said,
Speaker 1: like not poverty, not well, just middle class, upper middle
Speaker 1: class educated, you know, and he real slick and he
Speaker 1: runs being like nigga, I'm different, I'm stop checking foods.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of this shit, okay. And this is when
Speaker 1: the story becomes super familiar. Y'all don't know about the
Speaker 1: New York street sweepers, and for CALLI, the gang injunctions,
Speaker 1: and the gang injunctions kind of work like this, like
Speaker 1: you get if it was if you was black and brown,
Speaker 1: you were standing on a corner and it was molding
Speaker 1: more than one of y'all, it's a gang. If y'all
Speaker 1: had matching shoes, matching whatever it is, you're in a
Speaker 1: gang according to the law. So they would run up
Speaker 1: on you, and you know, it would move from like
Speaker 1: loitering again to gang activity because what was happening was
Speaker 1: so intense in LA like the police, as corrupt as
Speaker 1: they might have been, or as desperate as the community
Speaker 1: might have been. If you got swept, if you got
Speaker 1: swept up, you got swept up. They didn't ask questions,
Speaker 1: they didn't look. If it was two of y'all, it's
Speaker 1: a gang. You could be like, dude, we're nerdy as hell,
Speaker 1: y'all a gang if you if they if they if
Speaker 1: they recognized a jersey, a street, a jersey you were wearing,
Speaker 1: like if you just happen to be wearing a Dolphins jersey.
Speaker 1: All that's thirteenth Street, y'all said, like, or that's twelfth Street,
Speaker 1: like you down there, you down there in Pomona, like you,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you was with them?
Speaker 1: You feel me like you they No matter what a tattoo,
Speaker 1: a street name, whatever it is, if it was something
Speaker 1: that they could recognize as a gang thing, no questions asked.
Speaker 1: You getting swept up, you going into the paddy wagon, Right,
Speaker 1: it was a gang injunctions, right, you would get a
Speaker 1: gang uptick. Like for example, if let's just say, you
Speaker 1: know you you you know you did breaking an entery,
Speaker 1: just some sort of like or some sort of petty
Speaker 1: crime like your grand theft autoor, whatever the case may be. Right,
Speaker 1: you was just joy writing. If they could tie you
Speaker 1: to a known gang, that crime would get what's called
Speaker 1: a gang uptick, meaning it's an extra five or it
Speaker 1: or the act becomes a felony. A misdemeanor can become
Speaker 1: a felony because of the gang uptick. Right, A lot
Speaker 1: of times what would happen is kids would just be
Speaker 1: regular ass kids, you know what I'm saying, Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: committing you know, petty crimes here and there, just trying
Speaker 1: to be cool with the homies. You go to jail,
Speaker 1: you go to juvie, and you joined the gang in juvie, right,
Speaker 1: So it created a bigger problem, you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: In New York, they would have a street sweepers. Again,
Speaker 1: like if you was just if you were standing outside
Speaker 1: and it was more than y'all everybody getting swept up.
Speaker 1: I'm not asking no questions where we are cleaning up
Speaker 1: our streets? Now? That was us as black and brown
Speaker 1: boys being the being the victims of this. On the
Speaker 1: other hand, we were also victims of the violence. I
Speaker 1: said it, I said it so many times, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it again in this in this episode, I
Speaker 1: cannot stress enough how wild the streets were then, like
Speaker 1: we were held hostage. Like in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: I could say we were both. I said it on
Speaker 1: the song Gentrify on my own record, we were both
Speaker 1: guilty and victims. Like because the the roving hordes of
Speaker 1: violent youth that was holding us hostage were us. They
Speaker 1: were our friends, those were our cousins. And part of
Speaker 1: it was because you needed protection from the other roving
Speaker 1: violent hordes of dude, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: it was us. It's complicated. So the old ladies who
Speaker 1: can't go to their neighborhood liquor store, do you understand
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The people that was causing that problem,
Speaker 1: was they sons, Was they grandchildren or they friends' grandchildren.
Speaker 1: So if you came home, you was just like Meho,
Speaker 1: I can't even go to the store. No more fools
Speaker 1: will be like you. Somebody tell you. Somebody tell yo, y'all, Well,
Speaker 1: like yo, grandma telling you she getting sweated at the store. Oh, nigga,
Speaker 1: it's up you, not Fina swept my. Oh. So it's
Speaker 1: like we were you, we were held hostage. You don't
Speaker 1: go to the police because they just another gang. Like
Speaker 1: I said, they sweeping us up and throwing us into jail.
Speaker 1: They're not asking questions. Well, Gayle ran on this idea
Speaker 1: that like El Salvador, you're you're under and in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways. It's true, you're under an occupation. The
Speaker 1: occupation is just these fifas of gangs, y'all, y'all under occupation.
Speaker 1: He like, I'm gonna clean this shit up. I'm not
Speaker 1: asking questions. You can't you can't. You can't play games
Speaker 1: with these people. You have to demoralize them. And as
Speaker 1: the people of El Salvador, they like, I'm tired of
Speaker 1: this shit, you right, like we're tired of this. This
Speaker 1: man know how to talk. He young, dead, sexy, and
Speaker 1: he talked that talk. He like, ob look, I'm not
Speaker 1: afraid of y'all gangsters. I'm gangster too, Nigga, like, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm with the shits. You need to hire somebody, You
Speaker 1: need to elect somebody that's with the shits. And with
Speaker 1: the shits he was. And within two years this man
Speaker 1: absolutely decimated. I'm talking about the fact that, like you know,
Speaker 1: how like we talk about like the Mob and the
Speaker 1: Sopranos and shit like that, how it's like this is
Speaker 1: nothing like it used to be. Of course it exists,
Speaker 1: in of course, the mob exists, but not like it did.
Speaker 1: The mob got decimated. Like while I'm talking that, he
Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed the El Salvador and a lot of times
Speaker 1: look on once. This is why this is a hood
Speaker 1: politics episode, because on one side of this, on one
Speaker 1: side of the corner, you're like, good, nigga, we're free. Man.
Speaker 1: Fuck y'all out here extorting our grandma's like killing your
Speaker 1: own people, dividing this city up. Man, we held hostage, Like, nah, man,
Speaker 1: I got no love for y'all. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you could, like you could you pointing out people
Speaker 1: like I done lost friend, his family, cousins, sisters, brothers.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying, Like I'm trying to open
Speaker 1: a stupid little pin, Nadia, right, you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You you taking sixty percent of my Like, nah, I
Speaker 1: got no it's no love loss. He would he would
Speaker 1: have him boys like look like dehumanizing them and the
Speaker 1: attitude is what they dehumanized us. Have them, have them
Speaker 1: lined up in the in the jail and they draws
Speaker 1: tied up one by one, being like, look now, now,
Speaker 1: who the g now? Who the dawn? You laying out
Speaker 1: here in your draws? You're trying to like, nah, fam,
Speaker 1: we not playing this shit no more. Y'all are done
Speaker 1: fuck you and what you going through? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, fuck your dad, homies, Like I don't give
Speaker 1: a shit about none of y'all. You didn't y'all, y'all
Speaker 1: been terrorizing us too long. I'm done. And on one hand,
Speaker 1: it's like Nigga finally right in some senses, like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm a slap of Nazi. I'm a slap of Nazi
Speaker 1: in the face type dude, Like, I get it. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta shut this shit down, you feel me. And
Speaker 1: the only way to talk to somebody that's violent is
Speaker 1: with violence. I get it. I'm not a pacifist. And
Speaker 1: how do you respond to people that got no code? You? Like,
Speaker 1: are you worried about the moral high ground? Like is
Speaker 1: that really what we're worried about? It's like niggas is
Speaker 1: dying in the streets this like this is I'm tired
Speaker 1: of this shit. Y'all killing each other and we're all
Speaker 1: and we're dying too. Like it'd be one thing if
Speaker 1: it was just y'all shooting at each other. But even
Speaker 1: if it's y'all, y'all is us you are, These are
Speaker 1: our sons, these are our daughters. Yourself saying so like
Speaker 1: there's no separation between them and us. They are us.
Speaker 1: But this shit needs to stop, bro, And he was like,
Speaker 1: give me two years, and he did it. Now. On
Speaker 1: the other hand, the question is about how. And again
Speaker 1: this is why I relate to it. He was dudes
Speaker 1: would get wrapped up with no due process, and like
Speaker 1: with the you couldn't whether you was involved, affiliated or not.
Speaker 1: They're like, we'll sort them out later. So it's stories
Speaker 1: all over our Salvador of people being like I haven't
Speaker 1: seen my nephew ever since the cops picked them up.
Speaker 1: They just make up charges and they hold them without
Speaker 1: due process. They're not telling them what's going on. And
Speaker 1: if you just get caught up, you get caught up.
Speaker 1: Whether you have an affiliation or not, it don't matter.
Speaker 1: They're like, we'll figure it out later. When you're cleaning
Speaker 1: the streets with the power with the super soaker, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like they're just getting the biggest
Speaker 1: net possible and just swooping everybody out of the streets
Speaker 1: and being like, look, it's clean, and if you get
Speaker 1: caught up, you get caught up. He has not shown
Speaker 1: any concern in whether somebody gets accidentally swooped up into
Speaker 1: this or not. You shouldn't have been over there, that's
Speaker 1: the attitude. You shouldn't have been outside. And even if
Speaker 1: you not involved, I know, you know somebody that's involved,
Speaker 1: your brother involved, your cousin involved. It's impossible. It's like
Speaker 1: and that is another thing that I get. If you
Speaker 1: swept me up, I don't gang bang at all. I'm
Speaker 1: not affiliated all. Matter of fact, I'm running from these niggas.
Speaker 1: But if you swept me up and ask me if
Speaker 1: I know actively, I'm like, well, absolutely, of course I do. Listen,
Speaker 1: this is these were the rules. If you get swept up.
Speaker 1: Let's just say you get involved. You know they got
Speaker 1: your little tattoos on file, because that's what they do
Speaker 1: to take pictures of your tattoos. They see you got a
Speaker 1: tattoo that matches some other stuff. Now you involved in
Speaker 1: that hood. Right, Let's just say you get out on
Speaker 1: probation or you out on parole. A part of the
Speaker 1: rules for your probation or your parole is you cannot
Speaker 1: associate with any known gang activity, any known gang affiliates.
Speaker 1: The problem is you're sending me back to my house
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, it's my father is known gang,
Speaker 1: my physical brother, like my first cousin, my auntie, Like
Speaker 1: I live at the Kickback. So even if I'm trying
Speaker 1: to like this just where I live. I like, even
Speaker 1: if I don't want to be a part of this,
Speaker 1: like it's just where I live. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm supposed to say. If the po
Speaker 1: post see you, they let's say, they run a raid
Speaker 1: or they pull somebody over whatever in your neighborhood. They
Speaker 1: see you over there, you done broke your probation rules.
Speaker 1: Now you're going back. It's people in El Salvador that
Speaker 1: feel like, we don't know if this solution is worth
Speaker 1: to squeeze, the juice is worth to squeeze. It's like,
Speaker 1: you have a rodent problem, and the solution that the
Speaker 1: exterminator brings is a bomb. He's like, well, clear, clear,
Speaker 1: I killed all the rodents. And it's like, but you
Speaker 1: you blew up the house. Well, all my plants are
Speaker 1: dead too, and so is our pet. Like you like,
Speaker 1: but the rodents are gone. What do you say to that? Well,
Speaker 1: you know what else out of doors said is it's
Speaker 1: the cost of play because they re elected him, and
Speaker 1: when you do people a favor like that, especially if
Speaker 1: you're not afraid of taking the blowbacks. It's like I said,
Speaker 1: it's family members that still ain't seen they family members,
Speaker 1: it's been three years. They just swooped them up and
Speaker 1: they're like you he in jail now, no no court case,
Speaker 1: no charge. It's just you a part of the gangs,
Speaker 1: like nigga. No I'm not, Yes, you are that. There's
Speaker 1: cases like that all over Ol Salvador. So then the people,
Speaker 1: the people believe in you, and and what do you
Speaker 1: do this for you? I did this for the said,
Speaker 1: I did it for the hood. I did it for
Speaker 1: Al Salvador. You can declare a sort of martial law
Speaker 1: in a way that says, you want me to clean
Speaker 1: these streets up. You gotta let me not worry about
Speaker 1: y'all's human and individual rights right now. And some of
Speaker 1: the pushback with this bro is like, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a creep towards fascism because you're getting the job done
Speaker 1: for for the fatherland at all costs. And what you're
Speaker 1: gonna what y'all gonna say, I cleaned your streets up?
Speaker 1: You want to go back? You ain't like my way
Speaker 1: that my ways worked and I mean, why would you
Speaker 1: say anything to him if you know that you can
Speaker 1: get caught up in his drag net? And that's it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was the LAPD for us. Look, you
Speaker 1: get caught up, you got if you get caught up,
Speaker 1: you get caught up. You know. And of course we
Speaker 1: fought back against police brutality and stuff like that. But granted,
Speaker 1: this isn't Los Angeles, is not the nation of El Salvador.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily one to one. But what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is I understand the complications. I have no love for
Speaker 1: for the beasts, of course, but I will tell you this.
Speaker 1: I currently live in a part of town I wouldn't
Speaker 1: allowed to even visit. That's kind of nice. So we'll
Speaker 1: see keither way, Gailey said Jeff Levi los politicosos ah man. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that's him, that's the bougele, that's the street politics,
Speaker 1: all the stuff that we had to live through. What's
Speaker 1: going on now now Alien Enemies Act from the seventeen hundreds,
Speaker 1: early and early in Trump's presidency, he made a plan.
Speaker 1: And like I told y'all when this man first got
Speaker 1: in the office, like you need to take this man serious.
Speaker 1: People always told me, like, you know, like I said
Speaker 1: my brunching friends was like, n it's fine. The system.
Speaker 1: I'm like, take this man serious. He does what he
Speaker 1: say he gonna do, and right now he's doing all
Speaker 1: the stuff he said he gonna do. So one of
Speaker 1: those things was does designate gangs, specifically Latin American Central
Speaker 1: American gangs as terrorists? And if they're terrorists, then that
Speaker 1: means their enemies of the state. And if their enemies
Speaker 1: of the state, you can find a law like the
Speaker 1: one from the seventeen hundreds called the Alien Enemies Act,
Speaker 1: which means that I can guantanamoldbaties fools, what you mean,
Speaker 1: what you mean do process? Like you mean is the attitude.
Speaker 1: So the issue is, first of all, like we've covered before,
Speaker 1: speak landing at the Abrego Garcia case, which is demand
Speaker 1: is first of all, nobody knew he was gone. The
Speaker 1: wife had to figure it out when she saw a
Speaker 1: picture online. She saw the picture online and was like, uh,
Speaker 1: he not supposed to get deported to El Salvadors. The
Speaker 1: court's already said that. The American courts was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, my bad, but he there anyway, whatever, right,
Speaker 1: And They like, what the hell you mean he there? Anyway? Whatever,
Speaker 1: go get this man. The courts was like, you need
Speaker 1: to go get him if you wasn't supposed to. I
Speaker 1: don't understand. You just said you wasn't supposed to deport him,
Speaker 1: so go get him. They was like, the plane already
Speaker 1: took off. The courts was like, my nigga, what the
Speaker 1: plane already turned the plane around. They was like, well,
Speaker 1: he's in custy the L Salvador. Now it's nothing I
Speaker 1: canna do. They was like, are you serious? What the
Speaker 1: hell is you talking about? Did he get any due process?
Speaker 1: And they was like, well, he in need to because
Speaker 1: the Alien Enemies Act. They was like, how does he
Speaker 1: fit in? First of all, what the fuck are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Number one? And then number two? Well, let's
Speaker 1: ask the Supreme Court first about that, Like can this
Speaker 1: man use the Alien Enemies Act? The Supreme Court was
Speaker 1: like bet, it's cool. The lower courts was like, uh, okay, word,
Speaker 1: but you just said you wasn't supposed to deport this man.
Speaker 1: How come you can't go get him back? Well, he's
Speaker 1: part of MS thirteen. They was like, oh, where how
Speaker 1: do you know? He was like, uh, we heard it
Speaker 1: from this fool over here, and they pointed some sort
Speaker 1: of informant who had already been delegitimized. But they was like,
Speaker 1: is that your only evidence? This man? It was like,
Speaker 1: he got a tattoo. This nigga got a tattoo, So
Speaker 1: that's he he a part of MS thirteen because he
Speaker 1: got a tattoo. They was like, yeah, he. They was like, well,
Speaker 1: how do you even did he get a where's his case?
Speaker 1: And they was like, he don't get due process? Hey,
Speaker 1: the Enemies Act. Now this is where the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: does the Supreme Court thing. Remember we talk about the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court offense and how it's not necessarily the case itself.
Speaker 1: It's the bigger question what is this implication? And the
Speaker 1: courts was like, wait a minute, I'm gonna get real
Speaker 1: white on you right now. In the Constitution, when the
Speaker 1: framers said citizen, they meant citizen. When they said persons,
Speaker 1: they meant homo sapiens. Everybody, like, those phrases are purposeful,
Speaker 1: Like they're not they're not being willy nilly with they words.
Speaker 1: They mean like when I say citizen, I mean citizen.
Speaker 1: So that's specifically like the president has to be a citizen.
Speaker 1: But when we say persons, we mean listen, you a
Speaker 1: homo sapien. Your toes touched our soil at some point.
Speaker 1: These are certain inalienable rights that come from your creator.
Speaker 1: Fam care about your own citizenship. You get due process
Speaker 1: because that's not Listen, listen to what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: That's not who they are, because they're saying, we do
Speaker 1: this because this is who we are. Like understand, let
Speaker 1: me let me start cooking with y'all. It's not whether
Speaker 1: the person is a criminal, a murderer, a child molester,
Speaker 1: a citizen, a non citizen, na children, that's what they are.
Speaker 1: This due process is not about what they are. It's
Speaker 1: about what we are. This is who I am. Does
Speaker 1: that make sense? Let me let me give you another
Speaker 1: crude example. If that don't make sense to you. Listen,
Speaker 1: I am of the era. You could call it whatever
Speaker 1: you want, patriarchal, whatever, I am of the era that
Speaker 1: under no circumstances should a man strike a woman. I'm
Speaker 1: just I don't okay, war maybe, but in civilian life,
Speaker 1: I don't care how violent this woman is being. I am.
Speaker 1: It's not her, it's me. I am of I'm just
Speaker 1: giving you an example, I am of the cloth, like
Speaker 1: I will subdue you, I'll stop you from hurting me
Speaker 1: or hurting any of mine. But I I don't, I can't.
Speaker 1: There's no I just there's I'm not gonna strike a woman,
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying. And it's not again
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to give you an example of something
Speaker 1: that that's not who she is, it's who I am.
Speaker 1: I don't do that. So when the Constitution says stuff
Speaker 1: like all persons, they're saying, no, this is who we
Speaker 1: are as a nation. And the Supreme Court said unanimously
Speaker 1: nine to zero, because this is who we are, we
Speaker 1: give due process. You need to go get that man.
Speaker 1: But it's not just about that man. It's about all
Speaker 1: of the shit you're doing. You can't just in buguale
Speaker 1: over here being like we make it bread because y'all
Speaker 1: do whatever y'all want with y'all whatever. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: be here holl at you, boy man, saying whoever you want,
Speaker 1: we got room cut. It's just what's happening here now
Speaker 1: is the beginnings of what I keep trying to tell
Speaker 1: y'all to be worried about. The first time, Remember I
Speaker 1: told y'all what jad Vance was saying about, like do
Speaker 1: we even need to listen to the courts? This is
Speaker 1: what the liberals is trying to warn you about with
Speaker 1: the constitutional crisis, because the thought is, if you don't
Speaker 1: go get that man, we're gonna hold you in contempt.
Speaker 1: How to hell do you hold an entire executive branch?
Speaker 1: And who goes contempt as a fine? Somebody go to jail.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to go to jail until you do the
Speaker 1: thing that the court told you to do. Who gon
Speaker 1: go to jail? President the d o J. Stephen Miller.
Speaker 1: I hope Stephen Miller, But like who gonna pay the fine?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's getting real street out here, isn't
Speaker 1: it politics? Y'all? All right now, don't you hit stop
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