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Speaker 1: to go live with his grandma, and then he'd have

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00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: to stay why because he was getting in trouble. Once

425
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: you hit age of recruitment out here your best bet,

426
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: a lot of families decided they would just send they

427
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: boys away, go live with your auntie. It's too violent

428
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: out here, right. You starting to make bad decisions. Man,

429
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: They gonna like, you're gonna go out there worked in

430
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: fields and really realize what's going on. You get sent

431
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, You get sent to all these hotbeds Okay,

432
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: see Tulsa, all these cities where before the Great Migration

433
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: where we came from, we got sent back to stay

434
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: with the aunties. Now we would have it also like

435
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: the Latino homies. It would be more like they'd have

436
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: to go work. It would be the middle of the

437
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: year and they'd have to go to Mexico to work

438
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: with their grandpa. Then they would be back. You know

439
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you just had to go work

440
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: a field, and you just had to go back. They

441
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: needed money. You're a thea needs money, so you have

442
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: to go down there at work. That's just what it

443
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: was with us, though I can say distinctly purposefully, we

444
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: were sent off to try to avoid the gang life.

445
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: And for us out here in Cali, that person would

446
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: cease to exist, like they would just fall off the

447
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: phases of the earthly. I don't really are, it's just

448
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: it's done, like you just never think about them again,

449
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: like they were gone. And I never connected the dots

450
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: because in Kansas City there's a neighborhood crypt there's a

451
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: Rolling sixty gang. There's neighborhood in OKC. In Tulsa there's bloods.

452
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: There's all these neighborhoods. There's all these hoods to playboy gangsters,

453
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: all these sixties twenties photies, all these things that are

454
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: named after actual streets in California. It's called Rolling sixties

455
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: because that's they were in the sixtieth blocks, Jo said.

456
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: And then you'd find them, and I, for the life

457
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: of me, could not understand, like why y'all got gangs

458
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: named after California streets, Nigga, it's the kids that got

459
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: sent off when we was in middle school. They just

460
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: went there and got it cracking and started creating sets

461
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: in their neighbor and they could run. You'd run. You

462
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: were kings. You came from this place where you learned

463
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: all the game everything you needed to do because you

464
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: had to survive where you were. You just went out

465
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: there and you just ruled the world. They had it

466
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: an app been on a microcosm in America in California suburbs. Yo, Yo, mama,

467
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: get a house, get get a tax return, you move

468
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: out to the burbs. Oh you like, oh, I'm gonna

469
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: run this, do you know what I'm saying? Until somebody

470
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: else's family from Long Beach or something get get a

471
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: tax returned. They go out there and then and that

472
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: nigga just as thorough as you are, like, uh, now

473
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: we got issues. But it was such a normal occurrences.

474
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: I remember that there was a documentary in the Knights

475
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: called Banging in Little Rock. Could not wrap my main

476
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: my mind around Little Rock, Arkansas having gangs until at

477
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: a full groun adult I was like, oh, yeah, we

478
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: exported it. We would get sent off. And then they

479
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: didn't fall off the face of the earth. They lived

480
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: there and started hoods. I don't know why I ever

481
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: thought about that. That's what happened else Aalvadore. They went

482
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: out there and they got active. And when they got active,

483
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: you have to remember they got active without any constraints

484
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: of any cribs, bloods or any other or any other

485
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: cholos May eighteen Street. Nobody was over there, Florence thirteen.

486
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: Nobody was there. It was they world and they world.

487
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: It was good God. They went out there sod checking

488
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: fools left and right. And here's the thing. I'm not

489
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: even gonna explain what a sock check is. Sock check

490
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: on me because if you know, you know thusave I

491
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: know how counterintuitive this sounds, but in some ways, when

492
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: there's no system of checks and balances, even among gang life,

493
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: you think the violence happens, of course because of like

494
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: rivalries and stuff like that. But if there's no system

495
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: and you can just run the thing, then the lick

496
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: becomes just the people, like you're just the citizens, because

497
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: there's no time the gang wars evolved because somebody is

498
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: gonna be like, well, I don't have to just listen

499
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: to you, nigga, I live over here. That can make

500
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: this my neighborhood, right, somebody else get deported from five

501
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: years later and they start their own set. But before that,

502
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: it's like the people that live there become your playing field,

503
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: and they're not inoculated. They don't have the germs. They

504
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: don't have the germs. They don't have the white blood

505
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: cells to be able to inoculate themselves, to defend themselves

506
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: in any way, because that's this isn't what they're This

507
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: isn't the types of diseases they're used to. This gang shit,

508
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: the gang shit in El Salvador was born in Los Angeles,

509
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: like it's not. It's not local grown. It was born

510
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: in La So it's not they're not used to. They

511
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: don't have You don't have the immune system for that.

512
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: So them foods was running them streets, I mean running

513
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: them like I mean you put La Chicago, Atlanta, just

514
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: wrap it all in one. They was running them streets.

515
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: It was bro because milk we miy just like bad.

516
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: Now it's funny me doing this because I'm using all

517
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: like Mexican slang. It is like, I mean, you called

518
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: me on it, of course, but like bro, it was

519
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: through child's like I thought you wouldn't believe what they

520
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: saw anyway, it was bad. I can relate to the

521
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: feelings of feeling like you're this is an open air prison,

522
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: like you're you're held hostage in your own neighborhood. I

523
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: can personally relate to that, like rules were very clear.

524
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: There's parts of neighborhoods you just don't go to. It's

525
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: grocery stores, directions walking home like you have to walk

526
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: home a whole other route. There's family members you can't

527
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: go visit because it's like you ain't allowed in that hood. Man,

528
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: y'all think I'm exaggerating, Like, man, I need to bring

529
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: somebody else on this show, like who lived through this

530
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: that can avouch for what I'm telling you. When I

531
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: tell you could not go to certain areas, it's like

532
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: you you could not go. It's what do you mean

533
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: you can't go? It's a free country. I'm allowed to go. Okay,

534
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: try it. Go ahead, drive over there. See what happens.

535
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: I personally had family that lived in Compton that I

536
00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: didn't visit until they left Compton and it we weren't

537
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: allowed over there. And Salvador was living through this until

538
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: this young gen z Cusp millennial comes and starts socks

539
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: checking foods. All right, all right, now we're gonna get

540
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: to the meat of this after this break. All right,

541
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: we're back sock check, homie. The higher the sides, the

542
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: down there, the food Brad lame jack live. Never snitch

543
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: on your homies in respect your head. I keep it

544
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: through chin all right anyway, Sorry dog, So this gen

545
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: z cuss for millennial naimbu gele upper middle class dude,

546
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: Palestinian immigrant moves over to Al Salvador with his family,

547
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: gets his start around thirty years old. And he was

548
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: a publicist. Right, so you're talking about a dude gets

549
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: on the camera, hat to the back, young understands social media,

550
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: knows how to talk that talk, understands TikTok. Like just

551
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: next generation. The guy for now decides to get into politics,

552
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: becomes the mayor of a small town you know, on

553
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: the outskirts, eventually becomes the mayor of the capital city,

554
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: San Salvador, and then runs for president in twenty eighteen.

555
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: And when he runs for president, you got I remember

556
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: again he a young buck. You got this like the

557
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: literal opposite problem of what we got in America. What

558
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: John Stewart say, man needs to have set the record

559
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: for being the oldest two people to ever run for president,

560
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: only breaking the record by four years set by them

561
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: four years ago. Just didn't gay the opposite, young buck, right,

562
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: new blood understands the world. You know, he was educated

563
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: in a bilingual school. So he come from like I said,

564
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: like not poverty, not well, just middle class, upper middle

565
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: class educated, you know, and he real slick and he

566
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: runs being like nigga, I'm different, I'm stop checking foods.

567
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: I'm tired of this shit, okay. And this is when

568
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: the story becomes super familiar. Y'all don't know about the

569
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: New York street sweepers, and for CALLI, the gang injunctions,

570
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: and the gang injunctions kind of work like this, like

571
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: you get if it was if you was black and brown,

572
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: you were standing on a corner and it was molding

573
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: more than one of y'all, it's a gang. If y'all

574
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: had matching shoes, matching whatever it is, you're in a

575
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: gang according to the law. So they would run up

576
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: on you, and you know, it would move from like

577
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: loitering again to gang activity because what was happening was

578
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: so intense in LA like the police, as corrupt as

579
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: they might have been, or as desperate as the community

580
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: might have been. If you got swept, if you got

581
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: swept up, you got swept up. They didn't ask questions,

582
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: they didn't look. If it was two of y'all, it's

583
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: a gang. You could be like, dude, we're nerdy as hell,

584
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: y'all a gang if you if they if they if

585
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: they recognized a jersey, a street, a jersey you were wearing,

586
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: like if you just happen to be wearing a Dolphins jersey.

587
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: All that's thirteenth Street, y'all said, like, or that's twelfth Street,

588
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: like you down there, you down there in Pomona, like you,

589
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you was with them?

590
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: You feel me like you they No matter what a tattoo,

591
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: a street name, whatever it is, if it was something

592
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: that they could recognize as a gang thing, no questions asked.

593
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: You getting swept up, you going into the paddy wagon, Right,

594
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: it was a gang injunctions, right, you would get a

595
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: gang uptick. Like for example, if let's just say, you

596
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: know you you you know you did breaking an entery,

597
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: just some sort of like or some sort of petty

598
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: crime like your grand theft autoor, whatever the case may be. Right,

599
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: you was just joy writing. If they could tie you

600
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: to a known gang, that crime would get what's called

601
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: a gang uptick, meaning it's an extra five or it

602
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: or the act becomes a felony. A misdemeanor can become

603
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: a felony because of the gang uptick. Right, A lot

604
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: of times what would happen is kids would just be

605
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: regular ass kids, you know what I'm saying, Maybe maybe

606
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: committing you know, petty crimes here and there, just trying

607
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: to be cool with the homies. You go to jail,

608
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: you go to juvie, and you joined the gang in juvie, right,

609
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: So it created a bigger problem, you understand what I'm saying.

610
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: In New York, they would have a street sweepers. Again,

611
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: like if you was just if you were standing outside

612
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: and it was more than y'all everybody getting swept up.

613
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm not asking no questions where we are cleaning up

614
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: our streets? Now? That was us as black and brown

615
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: boys being the being the victims of this. On the

616
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: other hand, we were also victims of the violence. I

617
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: said it, I said it so many times, and I'm

618
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: gonna say it again in this in this episode, I

619
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: cannot stress enough how wild the streets were then, like

620
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: we were held hostage. Like in a lot of ways,

621
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: I could say we were both. I said it on

622
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: the song Gentrify on my own record, we were both

623
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: guilty and victims. Like because the the roving hordes of

624
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: violent youth that was holding us hostage were us. They

625
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: were our friends, those were our cousins. And part of

626
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: it was because you needed protection from the other roving

627
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: violent hordes of dude, you know what I'm saying, Like

628
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: it was us. It's complicated. So the old ladies who

629
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: can't go to their neighborhood liquor store, do you understand

630
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The people that was causing that problem,

631
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: was they sons, Was they grandchildren or they friends' grandchildren.

632
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: So if you came home, you was just like Meho,

633
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: I can't even go to the store. No more fools

634
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: will be like you. Somebody tell you. Somebody tell yo, y'all, Well,

635
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: like yo, grandma telling you she getting sweated at the store. Oh, nigga,

636
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: it's up you, not Fina swept my. Oh. So it's

637
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: like we were you, we were held hostage. You don't

638
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: go to the police because they just another gang. Like

639
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: I said, they sweeping us up and throwing us into jail.

640
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: They're not asking questions. Well, Gayle ran on this idea

641
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: that like El Salvador, you're you're under and in a

642
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: lot of ways. It's true, you're under an occupation. The

643
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: occupation is just these fifas of gangs, y'all, y'all under occupation.

644
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: He like, I'm gonna clean this shit up. I'm not

645
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: asking questions. You can't you can't. You can't play games

646
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: with these people. You have to demoralize them. And as

647
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: the people of El Salvador, they like, I'm tired of

648
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: this shit, you right, like we're tired of this. This

649
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: man know how to talk. He young, dead, sexy, and

650
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: he talked that talk. He like, ob look, I'm not

651
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: afraid of y'all gangsters. I'm gangster too, Nigga, like, I'm

652
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm with the shits. You need to hire somebody, You

653
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: need to elect somebody that's with the shits. And with

654
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: the shits he was. And within two years this man

655
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: absolutely decimated. I'm talking about the fact that, like you know,

656
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: how like we talk about like the Mob and the

657
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: Sopranos and shit like that, how it's like this is

658
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: nothing like it used to be. Of course it exists,

659
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: in of course, the mob exists, but not like it did.

660
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: The mob got decimated. Like while I'm talking that, he

661
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: absolutely destroyed the El Salvador and a lot of times

662
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: look on once. This is why this is a hood

663
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: politics episode, because on one side of this, on one

664
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: side of the corner, you're like, good, nigga, we're free. Man.

665
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: Fuck y'all out here extorting our grandma's like killing your

666
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: own people, dividing this city up. Man, we held hostage, Like, nah, man,

667
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: I got no love for y'all. You know what I'm saying,

668
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: Like you could, like you could you pointing out people

669
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: like I done lost friend, his family, cousins, sisters, brothers.

670
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying, Like I'm trying to open

671
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: a stupid little pin, Nadia, right, you understand what I'm saying.

672
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: You you taking sixty percent of my Like, nah, I

673
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: got no it's no love loss. He would he would

674
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: have him boys like look like dehumanizing them and the

675
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: attitude is what they dehumanized us. Have them, have them

676
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: lined up in the in the jail and they draws

677
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: tied up one by one, being like, look now, now,

678
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: who the g now? Who the dawn? You laying out

679
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: here in your draws? You're trying to like, nah, fam,

680
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: we not playing this shit no more. Y'all are done

681
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: fuck you and what you going through? You know what

682
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying, fuck your dad, homies, Like I don't give

683
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: a shit about none of y'all. You didn't y'all, y'all

684
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: been terrorizing us too long. I'm done. And on one hand,

685
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: it's like Nigga finally right in some senses, like, look,

686
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: I'm a slap of Nazi. I'm a slap of Nazi

687
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: in the face type dude, Like, I get it. Sometimes

688
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: you gotta shut this shit down, you feel me. And

689
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: the only way to talk to somebody that's violent is

690
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: with violence. I get it. I'm not a pacifist. And

691
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: how do you respond to people that got no code? You? Like,

692
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: are you worried about the moral high ground? Like is

693
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: that really what we're worried about? It's like niggas is

694
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: dying in the streets this like this is I'm tired

695
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: of this shit. Y'all killing each other and we're all

696
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: and we're dying too. Like it'd be one thing if

697
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: it was just y'all shooting at each other. But even

698
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: if it's y'all, y'all is us you are, These are

699
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: our sons, these are our daughters. Yourself saying so like

700
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: there's no separation between them and us. They are us.

701
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: But this shit needs to stop, bro, And he was like,

702
00:46:53,880 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 1: give me two years, and he did it. Now. On

703
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: the other hand, the question is about how. And again

704
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: this is why I relate to it. He was dudes

705
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: would get wrapped up with no due process, and like

706
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: with the you couldn't whether you was involved, affiliated or not.

707
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: They're like, we'll sort them out later. So it's stories

708
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: all over our Salvador of people being like I haven't

709
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: seen my nephew ever since the cops picked them up.

710
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: They just make up charges and they hold them without

711
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: due process. They're not telling them what's going on. And

712
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: if you just get caught up, you get caught up.

713
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: Whether you have an affiliation or not, it don't matter.

714
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: They're like, we'll figure it out later. When you're cleaning

715
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: the streets with the power with the super soaker, you

716
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like they're just getting the biggest

717
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: net possible and just swooping everybody out of the streets

718
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: and being like, look, it's clean, and if you get

719
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: caught up, you get caught up. He has not shown

720
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: any concern in whether somebody gets accidentally swooped up into

721
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: this or not. You shouldn't have been over there, that's

722
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: the attitude. You shouldn't have been outside. And even if

723
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: you not involved, I know, you know somebody that's involved,

724
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: your brother involved, your cousin involved. It's impossible. It's like

725
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: and that is another thing that I get. If you

726
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: swept me up, I don't gang bang at all. I'm

727
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: not affiliated all. Matter of fact, I'm running from these niggas.

728
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: But if you swept me up and ask me if

729
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 1: I know actively, I'm like, well, absolutely, of course I do. Listen,

730
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: this is these were the rules. If you get swept up.

731
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: Let's just say you get involved. You know they got

732
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: your little tattoos on file, because that's what they do

733
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: to take pictures of your tattoos. They see you got a

734
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: tattoo that matches some other stuff. Now you involved in

735
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: that hood. Right, Let's just say you get out on

736
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: probation or you out on parole. A part of the

737
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: rules for your probation or your parole is you cannot

738
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: associate with any known gang activity, any known gang affiliates.

739
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: The problem is you're sending me back to my house

740
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, it's my father is known gang,

741
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: my physical brother, like my first cousin, my auntie, Like

742
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: I live at the Kickback. So even if I'm trying

743
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: to like this just where I live. I like, even

744
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: if I don't want to be a part of this,

745
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: like it's just where I live. I don't know. I

746
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm supposed to say. If the po

747
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: post see you, they let's say, they run a raid

748
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: or they pull somebody over whatever in your neighborhood. They

749
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: see you over there, you done broke your probation rules.

750
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: Now you're going back. It's people in El Salvador that

751
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: feel like, we don't know if this solution is worth

752
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: to squeeze, the juice is worth to squeeze. It's like,

753
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: you have a rodent problem, and the solution that the

754
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: exterminator brings is a bomb. He's like, well, clear, clear,

755
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: I killed all the rodents. And it's like, but you

756
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: you blew up the house. Well, all my plants are

757
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: dead too, and so is our pet. Like you like,

758
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: but the rodents are gone. What do you say to that? Well,

759
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: you know what else out of doors said is it's

760
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: the cost of play because they re elected him, and

761
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: when you do people a favor like that, especially if

762
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: you're not afraid of taking the blowbacks. It's like I said,

763
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: it's family members that still ain't seen they family members,

764
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: it's been three years. They just swooped them up and

765
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: they're like you he in jail now, no no court case,

766
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: no charge. It's just you a part of the gangs,

767
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: like nigga. No I'm not, Yes, you are that. There's

768
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: cases like that all over Ol Salvador. So then the people,

769
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: the people believe in you, and and what do you

770
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: do this for you? I did this for the said,

771
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: I did it for the hood. I did it for

772
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: Al Salvador. You can declare a sort of martial law

773
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: in a way that says, you want me to clean

774
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: these streets up. You gotta let me not worry about

775
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: y'all's human and individual rights right now. And some of

776
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: the pushback with this bro is like, that's a that's

777
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: a creep towards fascism because you're getting the job done

778
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: for for the fatherland at all costs. And what you're

779
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: gonna what y'all gonna say, I cleaned your streets up?

780
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: You want to go back? You ain't like my way

781
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: that my ways worked and I mean, why would you

782
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: say anything to him if you know that you can

783
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: get caught up in his drag net? And that's it.

784
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that was the LAPD for us. Look, you

785
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: get caught up, you got if you get caught up,

786
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: you get caught up. You know. And of course we

787
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: fought back against police brutality and stuff like that. But granted,

788
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: this isn't Los Angeles, is not the nation of El Salvador.

789
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily one to one. But what I'm saying

790
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: is I understand the complications. I have no love for

791
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: for the beasts, of course, but I will tell you this.

792
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: I currently live in a part of town I wouldn't

793
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: allowed to even visit. That's kind of nice. So we'll

794
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: see keither way, Gailey said Jeff Levi los politicosos ah man. Okay,

795
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: So that's him, that's the bougele, that's the street politics,

796
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 1: all the stuff that we had to live through. What's

797
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: going on now now Alien Enemies Act from the seventeen hundreds,

798
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: early and early in Trump's presidency, he made a plan.

799
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: And like I told y'all when this man first got

800
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: in the office, like you need to take this man serious.

801
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 1: People always told me, like, you know, like I said

802
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: my brunching friends was like, n it's fine. The system.

803
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, take this man serious. He does what he

804
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: say he gonna do, and right now he's doing all

805
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: the stuff he said he gonna do. So one of

806
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: those things was does designate gangs, specifically Latin American Central

807
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: American gangs as terrorists? And if they're terrorists, then that

808
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: means their enemies of the state. And if their enemies

809
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: of the state, you can find a law like the

810
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: one from the seventeen hundreds called the Alien Enemies Act,

811
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: which means that I can guantanamoldbaties fools, what you mean,

812
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 1: what you mean do process? Like you mean is the attitude.

813
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: So the issue is, first of all, like we've covered before,

814
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 1: speak landing at the Abrego Garcia case, which is demand

815
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: is first of all, nobody knew he was gone. The

816
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: wife had to figure it out when she saw a

817
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: picture online. She saw the picture online and was like, uh,

818
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: he not supposed to get deported to El Salvadors. The

819
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: court's already said that. The American courts was like, yeah,

820
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: you're right, my bad, but he there anyway, whatever, right,

821
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: And They like, what the hell you mean he there? Anyway? Whatever,

822
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: go get this man. The courts was like, you need

823
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: to go get him if you wasn't supposed to. I

824
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: don't understand. You just said you wasn't supposed to deport him,

825
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 1: so go get him. They was like, the plane already

826
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: took off. The courts was like, my nigga, what the

827
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: plane already turned the plane around. They was like, well,

828
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: he's in custy the L Salvador. Now it's nothing I

829
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: canna do. They was like, are you serious? What the

830
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: hell is you talking about? Did he get any due process?

831
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: And they was like, well, he in need to because

832
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: the Alien Enemies Act. They was like, how does he

833
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: fit in? First of all, what the fuck are you

834
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: talking about? Number one? And then number two? Well, let's

835
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: ask the Supreme Court first about that, Like can this

836
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: man use the Alien Enemies Act? The Supreme Court was

837
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: like bet, it's cool. The lower courts was like, uh, okay, word,

838
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 1: but you just said you wasn't supposed to deport this man.

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Speaker 1: How come you can't go get him back? Well, he's

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Speaker 1: part of MS thirteen. They was like, oh, where how

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Speaker 1: do you know? He was like, uh, we heard it

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Speaker 1: of informant who had already been delegitimized. But they was like,

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Speaker 1: is that your only evidence? This man? It was like,

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Speaker 1: he got a tattoo. This nigga got a tattoo, So

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Speaker 1: that's he he a part of MS thirteen because he

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Speaker 1: got a tattoo. They was like, yeah, he. They was like, well,

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Speaker 1: how do you even did he get a where's his case?

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Speaker 1: And they was like, he don't get due process? Hey,

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Speaker 1: the Enemies Act. Now this is where the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: does the Supreme Court thing. Remember we talk about the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court offense and how it's not necessarily the case itself.

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Speaker 1: It's the bigger question what is this implication? And the

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Speaker 1: courts was like, wait a minute, I'm gonna get real

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Speaker 1: white on you right now. In the Constitution, when the

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Speaker 1: framers said citizen, they meant citizen. When they said persons,

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Speaker 1: they meant homo sapiens. Everybody, like, those phrases are purposeful,

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Speaker 1: Like they're not they're not being willy nilly with they words.

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Speaker 1: They mean like when I say citizen, I mean citizen.

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Speaker 1: So that's specifically like the president has to be a citizen.

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Speaker 1: But when we say persons, we mean listen, you a

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Speaker 1: homo sapien. Your toes touched our soil at some point.

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Speaker 1: These are certain inalienable rights that come from your creator.

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Speaker 1: Fam care about your own citizenship. You get due process

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Speaker 1: because that's not Listen, listen to what I'm telling you.

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Speaker 1: That's not who they are, because they're saying, we do

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Speaker 1: this because this is who we are. Like understand, let

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Speaker 1: me let me start cooking with y'all. It's not whether

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Speaker 1: the person is a criminal, a murderer, a child molester,

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Speaker 1: a citizen, a non citizen, na children, that's what they are.

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Speaker 1: This due process is not about what they are. It's

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Speaker 1: about what we are. This is who I am. Does

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Speaker 1: that make sense? Let me let me give you another

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Speaker 1: crude example. If that don't make sense to you. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I am of the era. You could call it whatever

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Speaker 1: you want, patriarchal, whatever, I am of the era that

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Speaker 1: under no circumstances should a man strike a woman. I'm

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Speaker 1: just I don't okay, war maybe, but in civilian life,

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Speaker 1: I don't care how violent this woman is being. I am.

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Speaker 1: It's not her, it's me. I am of I'm just

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Speaker 1: giving you an example, I am of the cloth, like

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Speaker 1: I will subdue you, I'll stop you from hurting me

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Speaker 1: or hurting any of mine. But I I don't, I can't.

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Speaker 1: There's no I just there's I'm not gonna strike a woman,

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Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying. And it's not again

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Speaker 1: like I'm trying to give you an example of something

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Speaker 1: that that's not who she is, it's who I am.

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Speaker 1: I don't do that. So when the Constitution says stuff

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Speaker 1: like all persons, they're saying, no, this is who we

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Speaker 1: are as a nation. And the Supreme Court said unanimously

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Speaker 1: nine to zero, because this is who we are, we

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Speaker 1: give due process. You need to go get that man.

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Speaker 1: But it's not just about that man. It's about all

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Speaker 1: of the shit you're doing. You can't just in buguale

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Speaker 1: over here being like we make it bread because y'all

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Speaker 1: do whatever y'all want with y'all whatever. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: be here holl at you, boy man, saying whoever you want,

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Speaker 1: we got room cut. It's just what's happening here now

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Speaker 1: is the beginnings of what I keep trying to tell

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Speaker 1: y'all to be worried about. The first time, Remember I

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Speaker 1: told y'all what jad Vance was saying about, like do

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Speaker 1: we even need to listen to the courts? This is

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Speaker 1: what the liberals is trying to warn you about with

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Speaker 1: the constitutional crisis, because the thought is, if you don't

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Speaker 1: go get that man, we're gonna hold you in contempt.

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Speaker 1: How to hell do you hold an entire executive branch?

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Speaker 1: And who goes contempt as a fine? Somebody go to jail.

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Speaker 1: You're supposed to go to jail until you do the

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Speaker 1: thing that the court told you to do. Who gon

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Speaker 1: go to jail? President the d o J. Stephen Miller.

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Speaker 1: I hope Stephen Miller, But like who gonna pay the fine?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's getting real street out here, isn't

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