WEBVTT - "I'M ADDICTED TO CRYPTO TRADING" 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.160 Hello, hey, Lyle. 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:03.000 How's it going? Man? 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:04.600 What's up? 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:04.880 Is this? 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:05.440 Max? 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:10.560 This is this is. 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:11.520 What is happening with you? 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.840 Well, when I first dialed in, I was down thirty 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:19.360 thousand dollars on the day. I'm a bit of a 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:23.919 cryptocurrency trader and or degenerate gambler you could call me. 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.120 And I'm now only down ten thousand on the day. 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:28.880 So since I've been on hold for an hour, I've 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.360 gotten twenty thousand dollars of today's loss is back. 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.120 All right, So to kind of I have not one 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:41.800 hundred percent sure what you just said, But lifetime are 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:43.600 you Where are we at. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:49.040 In casino gambling? I'm down millions of dollars uh. With 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:54.640 cryptocurrency and investing, I'm up a good amount. What's a 0:00:54.640 --> 0:01:00.440 good amount, two to three million in the last year 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:03.440 before that? Maybe half that? 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.399 All right? So you're currently sitting on that's a life. 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:10.160 I see. You're currently sitting on like two million dollars. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.360 Hey, I have about two to three million. It's in 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:17.280 crypto currency. But I I day trade in that sometimes 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:21.280 in a week or two I can swing six figures easily, 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:22.960 maybe more. 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:25.440 The day trading doesn't make sense to me. Because don't 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.400 you have to pay like every time you sell off, 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:29.560 don't you have to pay taxes? 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.480 No, you don't. With well, with cryptocurrency that it's kind 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.160 of like a uncharted water is in a bit of 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.479 a gray area. You can use. You can trade into 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:45.360 these as other assets that represent, you know, the US dollar, 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.000 but that are not actual US dollars. They're called stable coins. 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.640 Gambling is an interesting addiction to me. I'm excited to 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.920 talk to you. I see you. We're doing you're doing 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:56.480 the casino. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.320 I've been gambling. I've been gambling forever. I'm thirty four 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.840 years old. When I was fifteen years old, I bought 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.200 a blackjack table from a friend's older brother, and I 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:09.079 was dealing that like in the movie boiler Room. Remember 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:11.400 that actor I forget his name, But I was dealing 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.000 out of my house in high school, making a few 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.360 hundred dollars every week from friends. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.960 And how long you said, you're a professional of this, 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:21.480 so you don't have it, so you don't have any 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:21.880 other job? 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:24.679 No, no other job. 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:26.560 How long have you not had any other job? 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.640 I worked jobs on and off for short periods of 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:33.959 time in my twenties. But when I kind of got 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:38.600 a taste for big wins. It's kind of ruins the 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:43.680 way I value, you know, a dollar. It can discuss 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.000 some people the way I look at money kind of 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.160 look at money just as units, seeking to acquire more 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.440 of these units, so they totally disconnected emotionally from the 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:54.560 value of a dollar to most people. 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:59.000 Interesting. Okay, So with that being said that you look 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.600 at money as units, you're totally disconnected to the value 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:07.240 of a dollar. Tell me what do you do with money? 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:09.080 Do you spend any money? 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.920 I do? I do. I have a girlfriend who I 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.440 live with, and you know, I treat herd of things 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.320 and we go on trips and it's nice. One of 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:23.120 the benefits of this lifestyle is being totally free time 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.600 wise to do whatever I want. But it can also 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.800 be like my you know, a double edged sword, and 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:32.120 I can get so involved in these markets that I 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.920 forget to enjoy life even though I have the freedom 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:36.280 to go do whatever I want. 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.320 If that makes me, no, that makes total sense, right, 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.320 because you're I mean, would you like you know, I 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.160 want to hear from you, and I I say me 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.600 putting words in your mouth, But would you consider yourself 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:49.480 like a gambling addict? 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:55.520 Yeah, I would consider myself a savage, savage addict in general. 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.680 But but but I used to use drugs. But I'm 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.360 thirty four now I haven't in about half a decade. 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:05.480 Whatever I find stimuli, I've become addicted to it. But 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.080 that's been as way far back as I can remember, 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.160 since I was, you know, under ten years old. 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:15.520 Right. See, it's interesting to me because you sorry, go ahead. 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:20.560 No, no, I'm just saying my addict, whatever stimuli or 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:24.400 phase that I go through. Although gambling is now to 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:28.240 two plus decades, different forms of gambling for two plus decades, 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.360 there's always I'm always I'm just an addict, like you know, 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.160 I'm always searching for the next stimuli. 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.719 It's interesting to me because you know, you have, you know, 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:43.880 millions of dollars which frees you from the chains of 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:45.920 like a nine to five job, which you know a 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.360 lot of people need to be able to pay for 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:52.280 fucking eating food and drinking water and living. But you 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:56.720 are still chained to the markets. So even though you 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:02.960 have freedom in some areas, illitated by a mental hold 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.400 in other areas, which is an interesting particular. 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.720 Absolutely, I'll give you an example, and my priorities and like, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.520 are so out of whack. Here as an example, if 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.040 I have to go do something for someone else or 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:19.760 for myself, or travel somewhere, or I'm chronically tardy and 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.800 I have no concept of time, and other people think 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.560 that I'm either lazier don't care, and maybe they're right. 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.440 But for example, if I if I have like trades 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:33.599 in and overnight trades crypto currency trades twenty four hours 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.799 a day, right, then the market never stops for crypto. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.960 I will literally I'm biologically programs with an alarm system 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:44.120 to wake up several points throughout each night, like as in, 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.400 wake up at three am, check out these four positions, 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.640 adjust if needed, wake back up at five am. But 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:52.240 if I need to get up for like a job, 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:56.120 or to do something that's quote unquote responsible or non 0:05:56.160 --> 0:06:01.680 related to these addictions you know this life or profession 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.080 or addiction, whicheveryone you want to call it, then I 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.520 you know, I have no care and can't wake up 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.599 and we'll sleep through alarms and yeah, my priorities are 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:11.279 all out of black. 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.960 And you say it's been like this for years, like 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:17.520 since you were fifty. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.480 As long as I can remember. Yeah, I mean I 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.320 see I see. I see it twice a week. I 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.960 have like a one hour FaceTime with a with a 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:29.479 renowned like addiction specialist therapist UH based out of New 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.520 York City. We do it on FaceTime since COVID. But he, 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.480 I mean, he helps me in ways, but I feel 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.800 like I'm unhelpable in many ways. It's just like learning. 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.279 It's the nature of my beast, if that makes sense. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.960 So tell me about these FaceTime sessions you have with 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.839 this guy. What kinds of things does he tell you? 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.559 We we end up talking about the markets for about 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.880 half of every session or longer. That's that's usually an 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.919 inevitable outcome of almost every session. But I mean we 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:02.640 try to focus on on reminding me to stay grounded 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:08.039 with things like physical exercise, focusing you know, time and 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:12.240 energy and attention on my girlfriend, who who I neglect 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:15.520 sometimes because of you know, my profession. 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:23.320 And have you told this guy that you FaceTime with? 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.400 Have you told him you know your position about how 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.400 you feel unhelpable? And if you have, what does he 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:30.360 say in response to that? 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:37.440 Yeah, I mean, he he commends me on the progress 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:41.000 that I've made, But sometimes I think he's giving me 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.960 too much of the cup half full, you know, I get. 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.040 I guess my I'm thirty four now. My twenties were 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.000 a little bit more chaotic, you know, like in and 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.040 out of casina. I have crazy stories about like living 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.720 in Las Vegas for two years comped like three hundred 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.120 out of three hundred and sixty five days in Las 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:03.800 Vegas casina. Those and crazy stories just living living life 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:08.120 in a fast play that sometimes outsiders think it seems 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:09.520 like it would be fun to live like that, but 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:10.520 I promise you it's not. 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:11.160 So. 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.280 I think he kind of commends me for all. Right. Now, 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.000 I have my office in my house with my girlfriend, 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:20.440 and I've evolved to some extent. It's not like I'm 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.800 running around the world in and out of casinos like 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.800 I used to when I played poker for a living 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.200 and did other things. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.640 Well, that makes sense to me that he would commend 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:34.800 you for that, because I mean, you were at this 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:39.720 point that you're describing that's very bad, and you're thirty 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:41.720 four now. I don't know how many years ago this was, 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:46.000 but you are on a if you take that time 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.440 and you take this time, you were on an upward 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:54.280 trajectory toward I guess you could call it a healing 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:58.800 or or towards being in a less fucked up crazy state. 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:00.760 So it makes sense so that you're on the oppert 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:02.760 and back. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.360 Then I would mix in hardcore drugs ps. I would 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:09.120 mix in hardcore drugs to my lifestyle and existence back then, 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.760 which has been at least five or six years since 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.280 I've dabbled in that, in. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:18.079 That wrong what what is the what? What is it? 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.200 What is the lowest point that you've been at? You 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:20.840 would say. 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:26.120 The lowest point was I'm trying to think maybe getting 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:31.640 arrested in Las Vegas for a frog like a fraudulent 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.600 charge on a hotel room under the influence of meth. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.679 I think that might be a lull mm hmm. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.760 Okay, So you got from there to now you have 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:44.760 the house and the girlfriends, and uh you sound like 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:46.880 I mean, you sound like you're still doing a lot 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.000 of you know, kind of crazy stuff, but that at 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.199 least you are living a somewhat normal life around it. 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.760 No drugs. Nicotine is the only you know, the vape 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.920 is the only thing. I'm kind of a physical substance 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:01.880 I'm still addicted to. 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.480 Yeah, the time about your girlfriend, had you meet her? 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.000 I met her in Las Vegas, U, And I kid 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.600 you not. Around the time of that low that I 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:17.920 just referred to, she had come to visit me in 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.600 Las Vegles. I had a friend of mine fly her 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.640 and his girlfriend who's who's her best friend out to 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.559 Las Vegas to meet me. And I've been in Las 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.600 Vegas for eight months when they came to meet me. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.920 And do you remember in the in the Matrix movie, 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.960 I can't remember which one it was, but Neo and 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.600 all of them are in the Nebukaneza. They're in the 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.360 ship in like the scorched futuristic world with all the 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.640 robots control and they're on that ship of just like 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.280 the ruined Earth, and the ship kind of comes out 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.320 up out of the clouds and like it's freeze framed 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.319 really slow on like Neo on Trinity, and they're they're 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:58.280 above the scorch clouds and they see like Heaven and everything, 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.280 like it's like beautiful of the scorch clouds and it's 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.880 just like a five ten seconds and then then the 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.600 ship crashes back down if you remember that scene, and 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.360 the Matrix ship goes back into the clouds, down into 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.599 the scorched Earth. That was kind of like my girlfriend's 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:16.119 one week visit to come to see me in Las Vegas, 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.800 that her meeting her on that one week trip was 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:24.040 like this breath of reality and fresh air. Then when 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.360 she left after visiting that week, I went back down 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:30.040 into the figure of chaos and the scorch ruined earth. 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:35.200 And so and so with that in minds, like, you know, 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.719 to this day, you not doesn't sound like you're in 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:40.800 Vegas anymore, and you don't do casino Gambley, but you 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:45.079 don't crypto stuff. To this day, does she still kind 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.760 of represent that for you, like a bit of calm 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:49.800 and the storm. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:55.160 Yeah. Yeah, I'm forever grateful for her to like seeing 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.560 something in me back then, you know, five years ago. 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:01.439 And it's a relationship like with her now. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:09.720 Good, bad and ugly, but probably more good than bad 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:10.240 and ugly. 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.120 M What does she do? 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.320 She works for Trader Joe's. 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:24.800 Okay, cool cool, and what what is her sort of 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:30.240 thoughts and feelings about what's going on with you? 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.360 I think, you know, she tries you. Sometimes there's periods 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:40.760 of that are better than others. But I mean it's 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.800 hard for her to argue with the results when things 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:47.960 are going really well and financially, we're in a sound place. 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.439 I think that, But I think she wants me to 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:55.280 spend more time with her, yeah, and care for you know, 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.280 care for her in ways that that I sometimes am lacking. 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.160 Well. You know, it's an interesting point you make just now, 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.400 and you sound like you're very I mean, you've been 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.360 dealing with this for like, you know, twenty years, so 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.640 you sound like you're very self aware about the sort 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.720 of mental ins and outs surrounding this whole thing because 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:17.280 you've been everywhere mentally with it. But when you say 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.440 it's hard for her to argue when things are going well, 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:27.040 and again you've probably heard this before, but what exactly 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:31.240 is the barometer of things going well? Is it always 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:35.319 like if we're waiting a bunch of money, that inherently 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:36.600 mean the things are going well. 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.280 No? No, I think things are going better when I 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.360 take a break and we go play golf or go 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.160 out to eat, or go on a trip and I 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.400 take time. I think I'm happier when I take time 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.680 away from it. But it's always in the back of 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.880 my head, and it's always one foam pull away to 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.200 like be right back in it. I guess that's the 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:01.400 quandary or conundrum that I'm in these days is not 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.320 that I'm in these like hyper aggressive, risky situations that 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:08.120 I used to be in regarding my aforementioned time spent 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.960 in Vegas and other places and on drugs. But nowadays 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:15.040 I could kind of pull out the destructive you know, 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:19.120 time consumpting, consuming behavior and it's all on my smartphone. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.960 One pull of the phone away, if that makes sense, 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.680 and trying themselves. 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.320 Interesting. So so that's a very interesting point you make, 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:32.640 because with the casinos, it's like, if you're away from Vegas, 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.240 if you're in let's say, it says you're in New York. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.560 So if you're in New York and you're away from Vegas, 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.560 you're away from the casinos. I mean, I guess there's 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:44.360 online gambling and all that different ship. But it sounds 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:45.520 like this ship is I. 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.240 Don't do that. I don't do the online but go ahead, sir. 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.160 But but it's but it sounds like this ship has 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:55.000 evolved to even if you it used to be, you know, 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.040 with the with the casinos, if you weren't around it, 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.000 it was a little bit better. But now it's evolved 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.720 to this ship is in your pocket. All the time 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:04.640 if you want it to be. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.120 For sure, for sure, and whichever way of the market's moving, 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:12.560 I can bet in that direction. And and and it's yeah, 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:16.400 it's very intoxicating and can be very time consuming. I 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.680 mean I've done well these past couple of years, and 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.640 even even since like the bear market kind of came 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.480 upon us the last five to six months, I've been 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.200 doing well. But you know, you can't always bat one 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.400 hundred percent of the time, you know, when one hundred 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.920 percent of the time, and and there's there's things to 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.280 focus on. And I see some of the chats saying, 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:36.600 I know you don't want me to read the chat 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:41.280 that they've been saying. To imagine, imagine the licenss. Dude 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.560 could have to be cashed out the money and didn't 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.120 waste his time, et cetera, et cetera. 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.240 I mean, I know that's that's that's what everyone has 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:48.240 in the back of the months. Why I have in 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.000 the back of my mind is like you have if 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.840 you have, because he's the thing. I don't know a 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:53.520 lot about how investment works, but I know that if 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:57.760 you have three million dollars and you give it to 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.440 the right fucking dude, or whatever the fuck can put 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:04.520 it in the right whatever. You could probably I don't 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.200 know how old you are. I'm completely talking out of 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.040 my ass with no numbers at all, but you could 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.280 probably do something safe with it, and like you still 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.800 wouldn't have to work anymore because you could probably put 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.800 it in a place that makes it, you know, regenerate, 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:19.240 so you could cash out and be cool. 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:21.000 Yeah. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:22.960 Yeah, I could do less risky things. And with the 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.600 majority of that I am. I'm just what's called staking 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:30.000 the majority of that and earning an interest that pays 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.040 out daily in a in a less risk averse made 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.120 on a non risky manner. But I still have about 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.240 one million of it on the table, so to speak. 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.080 Okay, that to me, if you have three million dollars 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.760 and two million of it you're keep it in a 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.880 safe place, and one million of it, you're a less 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:48.800 fucking party baby. 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:50.000 Ye maybe I. 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.600 Would. Yeah, That's why I think your therapist is telling 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.520 you that you've evolved, because to me, that seems like 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.680 an evolved position to be in, because you know, I've 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:02.800 heard from people, not like people personally, but people like 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:04.960 following the internet and shit, who like have been gambling 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.320 annets and whatnot. I think that they're lowest. They're not 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.720 doing that. They're like, yo, fuck it, put it all 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:17.000 on black roll, the roulette, who gives a shit type 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:21.080 of I mean, that's that's the really concerning place to be. 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:22.600 And you sound like you, I mean you sound like 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.360 maybe at one point you were there, but you've evolved. 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.280 It was a live stream yesterday where Drake, you know, 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.200 the rapper Drake was lost twenty million dollars in forty 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.919 five minutes in front of his you know, fifty thousand 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.520 people on Twitch or whatever. It's like sets the worst 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:40.000 example up for people watching to see people just punt 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:40.879 away money like that. 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.480 But he has one hundred million dollars done they and 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:45.960 so if he loses twenty If you have one hundred 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.679 million dollars, you lose twenty million dollars. You kind of like, ah, I. 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:51.720 Don't know how much he has, but you can't afford 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.720 you to gamp away money like that, even like, even 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:56.480 if you're Elon Musk, you don't want to be punting 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.800 away twenty million dollars every five minutes, like he's literally 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.200 in an hour punted like twenty or thirty million. Actually, 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:03.800 I think it was. 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:09.200 See you've evolved, You're Drake's point of reason. Hey, yeah, 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.800 well this is interesting to me. It's weird that your 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.240 therapy I love. I love that I do this all 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:19.760 the time with people where they come to me with 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.560 like issues that are totally worthy of real therapy and 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:24.080 they have been the real therapy and they kind of 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:28.240 break down what their experience was talking about this issue 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.600 in real therapy. And it's funny to me that your 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.600 therapist is telling is talking to you about the markets. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.000 I mean, they don't tell you anything. I mean, this 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.200 is classic like addiction behavior that there's a billion people 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.360 trained to deal with, and I wonder what the training is. 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.840 Now he challenges me. He's a good therapist. He challenges 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.119 me as much as he can. But by the end 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:51.920 of a one hour session, we have one a week now, 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.680 he said, until recently had two a week. By the 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:57.879 end of the session, I have him talking about the markets. 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.199 I guess that's just me more than him. But but 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.480 what we we we definitely try to address my real 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.160 issues and real. 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.080 Well I'm gonna I mean, it's just I'm also going 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.399 to kind of repeat what your therapist said. And I 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.680 know that you. Uh sounds like when you first said 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:16.280 that your therapist said this to you, you took it 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.879 not you didn't maybe believe him or whatever it was. 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.199 But from the way you're talking about these things, it 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.480 does sound like you have evolved. It obviously doesn't sound 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.600 like you are like completely cured of your issue. I 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:30.840 don't know, because I'm not an addiction person. I don't 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:33.920 know anything about that shit like what you know. I'm 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.159 not gonna comment on whether or not you are quote 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.760 curable or whatever the fuck, but you have evolved. Objectively, 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.040 if we're looking at a chart, you know you have evolved. 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:46.200 You are on an upward trajectory. So I understand why 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.040 he's saying that, And I don't think that you should 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.840 you know, uh uh disregard him saying that, because it's 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:57.800 true you have evolved, and uh man, I hope that. Uh. 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:02.400 Can I ask you know, before we go moving forward, 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:07.480 what is it that you want out of life? I'm curious. 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:13.720 I don't know. I think about that question, Austin, I contemplated. Austen, 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:18.480 I would say, objectively, the simple answer is just to 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:23.280 be happy and content and to strive for those things, 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:27.200 even when day in, day out, no matter where one 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:31.800 is that there's always a good reason to cry about 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:33.919 things or not be content. But I think, just what, 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:37.639 regardless of my situation, just work on being content and 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:40.240 living life with some balance. I think that's it. I 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:43.160 don't have too much of like a tall wishless. 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:47.840 Other than that, I think that that's a perfectly good wishless. 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:54.000 Thank you. I appreciate it, Lyle. Thank you. Gus to go, Max. 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:55.240 Anything you want to say to the people of the 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:58.159 computer before we go, No. 0:20:58.400 --> 0:20:59.960 Just good things, good things everyone here. 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.800 Thanks for having me, of course, thanks for calling Max. 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:05.240 All right, take care. 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:14.160 Hello, Hellos this gek Yeah is Quentin? 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:15.800 Yeah, it is. 0:21:15.840 --> 0:21:16.600 What's going on. 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:20.560 Man, Quentin? Quin and Quentin? Nothing much, just being a 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:24.480