WEBVTT - White Sox Wild Series Split vs. Yankees 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:03.480 Howard, my husband fell at a construction site. I knew 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:04.320 it wasn't safe. 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:06.680 It ain't and law. We're one of the largest filers 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.360 of workers' compensation claims in the state. If you've been 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:11.760 hurt on the job, in a car accident, or suffered 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.080 a medical mistake, call three one, two six million. 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:33.520 From your favorite source for Chicago White Sox Talk, delivering news, interviews, 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:38.120 analysis and more. This is the Socks Machine Podcast with 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:42.440 your hosts Jim Margolis, James Began, and Josh Nelson. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.120 You see any great airs in the mirror after at 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:51.320 least last two days. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:54.440 They're already there. But yeah, tough couple of games. We're 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:58.240 really had to grind it. Contributions from everybody, obviously extra endings. 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.600 There's a ton of situational stuff that you have execute 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:02.360 and guys really executed. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.600 Welcome, Welcome to the Sox Machine Podcast, part of the 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.640 Foul Territory Network. I'm your host, Josh Nelson. And that 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:12.320 was White Sox manager Will Vennable speaking Bose game after 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:16.200 Thursdays two to one win, another extra innings win for 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:20.440 the Chicago White Sox as they some way, somehow, in 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:24.400 a very wild way, get a series split against the 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.479 New York Yankees as that concludes their seven game homestand 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.520 they end up finishing three to four, But it looked 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.119 really dour for the White Sox against the New York 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:36.520 Yankees this week. And joining me, of course on this 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:40.640 episode is Sox Machines Beat reporter James Sveigan and managing 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.959 editor Jim Margulus and Hello Jensen. We'll start with the 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:48.480 show about this series split for the White Sox, and 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:52.640 from my perspective, I'm impressed in the way that they 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.640 were able to win these last two games and really 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.040 demonstrated the resiliency that this. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:01:59.440 Young squad has. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:04.480 They had no right really to win on Wednesday thanks 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.880 to back to back home runs in the eighth inning. 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.440 They were just simply being dominated by Yankees starting pitching 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.799 through this series, and that was also true on Thursday 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.600 as the game was scoreless, but in extra innings the 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:18.880 White Sox were able to grind out those wins, and 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.320 I just found that to be a very impressive performance 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.600 and even more reasons to get excited about this White 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:28.160 Sox team and be hopeful of what's to come, as 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:31.720 we're just three games away, four days away from the 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.000 trade deadline for the White Sox and wondering what Chris 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.480 gets will do to help add to this squad. But Jim, 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.440 I'll start with you. What does splitting this four game 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.200 series with the New York Yankees mean for the White Sox. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.720 It means not losing ground in the central basically holding serve, 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.880 playing a good team, and not getting the doors blown off, 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:58.040 which is like when first game happened, second game shut 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:02.920 shutdown at a kind of Cleveland like open to that 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.320 series where they could give up the entire lead and 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:10.600 one four game swoop and then back to games. Not 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.200 necessarily the prettiest way to do it, but a reminder 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:18.200 that one, the White Sox are resilient and two, either 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:24.120 the American League is questionable in high end quality overall, 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:29.800 or the White Sox are either patient enough or talented enough, 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.919 pesky enough, whatever you want to say to drag teams 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:36.640 to their level and make them just as frustrated, just 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.440 as you hear a lot of the same complaints about 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:45.520 fundamentals too aggressive a base running, trying to force issues 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.400 on defense, not hitting with the runners in scoring position. 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:51.240 I mean, Yankees fans are saying those things about their 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:55.240 team and X ratings losses. And you know, my one 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.200 of my long running mantras here is no team's problems 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.880 are unique. But I think when you have two teams 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:06.120 that are right now slated four postseason spots, a possible 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:10.400 October preview of some kind, it's good to be able 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.400 to either climb up to a team's level or drag 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:14.160 them down to yours. 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.760 And I can understand from like the White Sox fans 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.360 perspective that maybe are not as impressed because the Yankees 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:25.160 don't have Aaron Judge or Cody Bellinger the White Sox 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.240 and John Carl stan for that matter. It's not like 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:32.480 the Yankees offense is at full power. They still can 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:36.920 be dangerous. Ben Rice has been excellent for them offensively, 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:42.000 Jazz Chisholm Trent Grisham can provide some off to output. Yes, 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.919 the Yankees at times did struggle to score runs and 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.240 that will be an issue for them while Bellinger's on 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:48.320 the il and who. 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.239 Knows the situation with Aaron Judge. 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.960 But James still though the Yankees on the pitching side 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.120 of here to be at full strength and the White 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.440 Sox being able to weather that storm long and off, 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:03.640 especially on Wednesday, and Thursday to scratch out those wins again. 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.880 I even though the Yankees are not a full strength 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.479 I still am impressed by the way the White Sox 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.760 came back and split this series. What is splitting the series? 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.040 What do you think this means for the White Sox 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.720 And what did you hear in the post game conferences 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.120 and the interviews with the players? 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.920 Yeah, it certainly feels better on the like it depends 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.480 on like sequencing, if they like have split these games up, 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.119 or if they had won the first two and certainly 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.719 lost the second two, it certainly has a much different 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:33.599 feel from it. Whereas like this makes it feel like, 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.159 you know, they show their metal. They came back, and 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.280 I think that's the element of it, and certainly like 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.039 the players aren't shocked or like feel like they've newly 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:47.279 proven this ability to do this. But I think it 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.040 certainly sends them to Tampa on a better note and 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.240 makes it feel like, all right, we are playing here, 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:55.480 you know, in our home stadium where they've had so 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.920 much success in a way that's familiar to them. Same time, 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.800 like if the biggest question with the White Sox is 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.640 like starting rotation, they won the two games where you know, 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.760 basically their most successful starters over the season, you know, performed. 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.520 You know, then Noah Schultz only getting through three and 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:15.359 a third really put them in a situation that, you know, 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.039 it was difficult to n wind up. They didn't do 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.599 well offensively, you know, I think Anthony k look well 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.919 good overall, you know, even like it's kind of a 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.480 weird chopper, as much as he gave up like three 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.160 kind of well hit balls in a row in the 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.520 second inning, like the one that like cashes into runs 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:31.440 seem pretty fluky. 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:32.039 Uh. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.200 And then you have like Martin doing really well to 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.200 recover after a rough first inning, and you know, continuing 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.120 to say afterwards that he feels like he's trending in 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.240 the right direction mechanically. And then to Burke being what 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:45.159 Burke has been for those last eight starts, and when 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.359 starting pitching is in line, they look a lot more 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.400 competitive and like they can hang with anybody. When it's not, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.560 it looks a little bit like, oh, well, this team 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.520 was a year early, wasn't it. Throughout that there was 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.440 a huge burden on the bullpen, and they certainly looked 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.320 better in the last two days, you know, with just 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.479 a herculean effer in terms of eleven innings total to 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.880 turn to versus like it's hard for them to get 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.119 the last five and two thirds of a game without 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.920 you know, seeing an emplosion somewhere with Shultz. So I 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:14.960 feel like you saw the good and bad of the 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.680 pitching at times. I try to and I put it 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.960 in the recap, but like the offense has like certainly 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.320 had some games in the last like six weeks where 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.080 it just like seems like they can't get to a starter, 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.440 or it takes a while, or you know, the drags 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.120 a really late. But I do have to look up 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:31.840 the numbers and be like, oh, it's the top scoring 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:35.600 team in the AL. Maybe they have flaws, but like 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.240 literally every team in their compediing against his worse, So 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.360 how much should we freak out about, you know, Tristan 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.960 Peters having a slow start to post All Star Break 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.120 and mcgil vargas like they've earned some trust to get 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.440 right with what they've done. But it's certainly I think 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.360 the first two games had a feel of all right, 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.280 a better team is coming in and kind of assurding 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.280 itself the way they did in the series in New 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.000 York in a way. So for them to push back 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.080 on that, you know, kudos to them, and at this 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.320 point maybe we shouldn't be surprised. Certainly, Sam Mansinacci asking 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.200 him about it this morning or Thursday morning, at this point, 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.480 I was like, do you feel like like you guys 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.920 kind of you know, turned around from at least a 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.400 small bad stretch. And he's like, there's nothing to turn 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:17.000 around from. 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:18.880 We're good. 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.400 So I think they feel like they asserted themselves, like 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.360 obviously you have to prove it every single week in 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.920 the majors. But it didn't seem like something was beyond 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.000 or like oh wow, they've shown us this new thing. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.680 It's more like, oh, yeah, this is even when they 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:33.640 look bad for two games, Like this is the one 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.360 team in the league that hasn't lost four games in 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.120 a row. I believe still, like they that's crazy. They've 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:42.200 proven that they will swing around within you know, due time, 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.439 even even after a couple of performances where they look 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:46.040 pretty shaky. 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:50.319 Yeah, the White Sox haven't lost for straight this season. Jim, 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.680 there is a time in two twenty four, I don't 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:55.840 know if they've won four games in thirty days. 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:58.680 How long was that losing streak? 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:04.320 Again, like twenty something in or close to twenty twenty one. Wow, 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.040 how much stains can change in a couple of years. 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.240 I love the confidence, though, Jim from Sam Antonacci like again, 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.760 we can be impressed everyone from the outside and still shocked, 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:19.520 but it's not arrogance for these White Sox young players. 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.560 And Colson Montgomery has mentioned it a few times now 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:26.560 that maybe they're too young, that they don't know any better. 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.360 But I do enjoy as far as this type of 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:33.120 confidence of the White Sox beam, especially for them able 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:35.720 to climb back against the Yankees, and they're gonna need 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.719 it because they got a pretty tough road trip coming 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.360 up that we'll talk about later, starting in Tampa. 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.839 Yeah. I mean you could say they're faking it till 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:48.160 they make it when it comes to this kind of confidence, 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:53.200 or you know, not willing to seed anything, and that's fine. 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:54.600 I mean, as long as they can back it up. 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:59.480 It's I think the opposite. Not to invoke him unnecessarily, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.480 but Paige griff would be somebody who tried to fake 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.000 it till he made it, and he did not and 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.560 just sounded delusional to points you couldn't line up what 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:09.520 he was saying with what you were seeing there's no 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.440 reason to trust him. So I think there's a fine line, 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.360 or at least a line to walk when saying that. 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.800 But yeah, when you never lose four games in a row, 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:22.320 you know, knock on wood for them. But it's a 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.600 testament to the fact that like, well, why should they 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.760 talk down about themselves or why should they admit it 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.320 if there hasn't been that stretch on paper showing that 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:31.760 they can really get into a tailspin. 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:34.880 We'll be talking more about the White Sox starting pitching, 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:39.840 especially Sean Burke, who was outstanding again on Thursday ten strikeouts. 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.480 After a quick word from our sponsors. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:47.120 There is one place to be entrede Deadline Day watching 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.160 Foul Territory of course. A. J. Perdinski, Aeric Kratz, and 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:54.000 Scott Braun will be live all afternoon speaking with insiders, 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:58.120 reading tea leaves and reacting to unfolding deadline drama. 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I thought, a 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.640 really good cutter again, today's just really get stuck here. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.880 I also thought, after like the third Fame a fastball 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:01.920 command was pretty bad. 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:03.360 I think I love some stuff on the table. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:07.600 There's like some longer innings and counts. I was able 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.440 to finish as quick as I'd like to, But the 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:10.880 cutter is. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:11.480 Really good today. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.000 And then as always breaking down design it's good too. 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.360 That was White Sox manager Will Venable and of course 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:22.840 Sean Burke speaking postgame on Thursday, again, Sean Burke absolutely outstanding, 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:27.839 six scoreless innings for the White Sox, ten strikeouts on 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:32.520 ninety one pitches, And James, it is a bit funny 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:36.720 to me to hear Will Vennable say that, yeah, Burke's 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:41.520 fastball again great, and then Sean Burke mentioning to you 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.960 and the other Beat reporters after the game, Yeah, my 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.840 fastball command wasn't all that great in the third and 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.600 fourth inning. But for this, again, this is consecutive starts 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:54.520 that Sean Burke has struck out ten plus hitters. Just 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.400 absolutely dominating from Burke today. What was the catalyst in 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.199 your point of view watching Burke on the field today, James, 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:03.360 that led to the success? 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:08.360 First of all, Venable like understands almost every game for 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:13.240 the framework of did someone command like was the opposing 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:17.360 offense able to turn around your fastball? Were we able 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.480 to be competitive or do damage on the fastball? Like 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.160 he that's his like baseline for like every game. So 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.920 if you ask him about like what the offense did well, 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.800 what the pitcher did well on any level, like he's 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.000 he's probably going to like speak to like did did 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.000 they damage the fastball, Did they follow it off? 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:33.559 Did they whi it? 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.960 And you know, Burke might feel like he left some 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:38.760 in locations he didn't want to, but he didn't get 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.240 like if you can buy his four singer and sinker, 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:44.120 you got eight whiffs off of it. And he continued 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.760 to sit ninety five, which was like a slightly above 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.840 like his ear average. It just reflects like his norms 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.400 kind of dragged a bit up from you know, I 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.720 want to say he sat like ninety three point something 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.720 last year even though we knew he's capable of upper 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.960 nineties and really only topped out around like ninety seven 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.840 points something. You know, you know, hum drum on Thursday, 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:08.040 but has been more consistently having like this just the 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:10.440 more competitive version of his fastball on the zone, where 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.480 like even if he feels like he leaves the locations, 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.600 like it's not getting hit the way like it would 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:16.520 when he made mistakes or when it was a little 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.640 bit underpowered. So I think there's something what Venable's saying. Well. Also, 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:23.600 while like Burke's self standards have just like rocketed up 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.200 in such a way where he's you know, this is 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:28.560 at least results wise, Like I agree with him some 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.800 like things are a little like spotty in points, but 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.720 like if you look at results in his career, like 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.360 it's a short list contender for one of the best 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.760 starts of his life. It's six coolest Indians against the Yankees, 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.560 but ten strikeouts. He has three double digit strikeout games 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.720 this month, but only five in his career. Like, I 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.040 know he's gotten used to, like, you know, being awesome 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:45.920 really quickly, but. 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:49.080 I mean he's a strong. 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.640 Contender James to be American League Picture of the Month. 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.720 Yeah, I think, like I haven't looked at it yet, 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.840 but right now, like it looks like someone deserving of 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:04.120 a vote. He feels like, and it's certainly true in 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.400 terms of like looking like how effective his cutter was, 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.920 Like I think he struck out Grisham and Chisholm with it, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.000 and I want to say another one. He feels like 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.560 this was a great day of like I was able 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.120 to throw my cutter when I wasn't locating my fastball, 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.240 or just like able to get whiffs off both the 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.680 slider and curve. Like it's like this kind of represents 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.440 if I don't have to lean on one thing. It's 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.160 not like, oh, if I don't have my huge four steamer, 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:29.640 it's not getting tons of whiff or I'm not doing 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.680 my best curve ball like that dictates my start. The 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:33.840 fact that you can kind of like go to other 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.240 avenues and still be successful, I think for him is 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:38.200 what's standing out, Like I have confidence on all my 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:41.080 pitches right now in a way that he's really touting. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.400 So the fact that his arsenal has expanded so comfortably 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:49.040 and he can kind of see it all effective, not 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:53.160 necessarily so evenly distributed like this start, but so consistently 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.080 can turn to other options and not just be like 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.520 I have to have perfect or great four seamers and 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.480 curves or otherwise it's going to be one and I'm 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:02.760 gonna you're gonna see me walk, guys. I think that's 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.800 what's standing out to him right now. Same time like 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.000 I think it's it's all kind of contributed, Like his 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:11.880 delivery is clearly clicked in a way that's allowed him 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.000 to make choices about what he feels like really fits 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.359 in his arsenal. And you know, he's gotten so comfortable 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.520 with his curve and executing against lefties and the cutter 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.920 that if he hasn't outright just abandoned the change up. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.080 It's like, well, it's really not that important for me 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:30.720 to get this right. I don't have to force myself 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.160 to throw it in situations where it seems pretty iffy. 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:38.080 And I think that's what every like super supernater guy 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.600 wants to feel about a change up, like truly a 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:42.760 choice to ever use it at all. And I think 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.560 he's at that point just because of how strong the 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.600 rest of those arsenal is. So I asked him like 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.880 straight up to like, I know you're quibbling some things here, 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:52.240 but don't you kind of think this is the best 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:53.880 baseball you were throwning in your life? And he's like, 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:59.080 oh yeah. So it's funny because like most guys high 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.640 school or college, you know, maybe they're just dominating in 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.359 ways like they never can replicate in the pros because 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.080 this pros are too hard. But like Burke is very 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.440 much like, yeah, like I was good, I could tell 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:10.720 I could go to the next level, but like I 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:12.520 was never as consistent as I want to be. It 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.440 feels like he's these eight outings. They're not technically starts 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.040 because one of them at an opener, but like these 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.280 these eight starts are the most consistent he's really been, 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.600 even though if it's the highest, you know, competition level 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:24.480 he's face in his career. 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.280 It's funny that you mentioned like he's got other pitches 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:32.440 in his arsenal because looking at stat cast, podcast listeners 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:37.080 and watchers, opposing hitters against Burke's fourteen fastball are just 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.879 batting one to eighty against that pitch, and his knuckle 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.960 curve is two two. So I can understand, like, if 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.080 he's feeling a bit iffy James in his start that 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.639 it's not as sharp, or maybe the fastball is too 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.359 middle of his zone, it's too hit a ble that 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.000 I can go to the cutter, you know, after reading 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.119 some of your recent reports about Noah Schultz to like 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.080 try to keep it simple and maybe reducing from a 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.720 six pitch arsenal maybe down to like three for Noah's Schultz. 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:10.840 It's pretty clear that this fastball, curveball cutter accommodation is good. 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:15.080 I mean back to back ten plus strikeout outings. So 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.399 I don't know James, if Bert does need to change up, 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.080 for when he will need to change up again. 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.119 I mean, he doesn't really like there are multiple starts 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.040 in the stretch where he hasn't thrown it, and I 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.000 asked him about it and he's like, yeah, I've kind 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.199 of banged it, and like he mentioned throwing it a 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.400 little bit on Thursday, like just as like, but he've 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.280 views it as like not necessarily like a shape that 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:40.160 he thinks is super necessary in terms of like getting 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.680 something to move away from left eas He views this 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.000 purely as like a speed differential thing to kind of 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.920 mess up timing this whole dynamic that he used to 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.240 have of like you know a lot of these big 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.920 right handers who have big sliders or big curve balls 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.720 have like, oh, I can make everything move it's the left, 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.280 but I can't move and make anything go right away 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.000 from lefties. It's just not really holding him back right now. 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.560 It's not stopping him from getting left handed hitters out, 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.480 So it's it's really it's not like the shape that's 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.840 missing from his profile, especially since he uses a sinker 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:12.840 so much and even the lefties. And he threw on 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:15.720 the Spencer Jones that was kind of in a spicy location, 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:17.199 but he got him to fly out on. He's been 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:21.359 willing to do that pretty often. I don't think it's like, 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.680 oh man, what am I going to do to get 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:27.720 anybody to not just kind of look, you know, glove 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.159 side on me over and over. It doesn't seem like 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.399 that's you know, occupying his attention the way it was, 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.760 you know, last year when he's really still figuring things out. 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.200 And Jim, I think with Burke, like the the fastball 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.960 velocity difference. I was listening to the Game of the 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.960 radio and Len Casper and Darren Jackson were talking about 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:49.199 this point with Burke that when he is in the stretch, 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:52.840 that's when you start seeing the fastball dip a little bit. 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:55.920 Where when he's in his wind up he can get 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.560 up to ninety eight and ninety nine. You usually don't 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:02.000 see those fastball velosies Burke out of the stretch. So 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.960 maybe that's it means pretty key, he's not walking a 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.320 whole lot. He only walked two batters in this outing 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.639 against the Yankees, So maybe that's something that we have 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:12.800