WEBVTT - Danica McKellar

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<v Speaker 1>Your first kiss was on camera with Fred in the pilot.

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<v Speaker 1>How did that bring some extra nerves for you, especially

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<v Speaker 1>because at the time I had a huge crush on

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<v Speaker 1>him and I was just so excited and so nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>And I still remember after the first take when they

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<v Speaker 1>said cut, the whole crew started a plodding, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who started that, but it was mortifying. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can only imagine all the nerves, anticipation. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're about to have your first kiss, You've got a

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<v Speaker 1>crush on the guy, you know, and then it finally happens.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the most amazing moment ever, and it's like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't a private That wasn't real, Okay, right. Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Danika McKellar. I act in Christmas movies

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<v Speaker 1>and I write math books for kids. Hello, my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>listener and also my not so favorite listeners. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of Off the Beat. I'm your host, as always,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Baumgartner. Now, as you just heard, my guest today

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<v Speaker 1>is Danica mckeller, who, well you might know from her

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<v Speaker 1>time playing Winnie Cooper on The Wonder Years. Everyone who

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<v Speaker 1>I have told that I have talked to Danica has

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<v Speaker 1>been so excited. Apparently there are a lot of Wonder

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<v Speaker 1>Years fans out there, or maybe you know her from

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<v Speaker 1>the many rom coms that she started the Winter Palace

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas at Dollywood with of course Dolly Pardon, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>also a subset of you who might know her for

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<v Speaker 1>a totally different reason. That's right, Danika is gonna out

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<v Speaker 1>math even me today. Yes, she does do the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>She literally has a mathematical theorem named after her. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is that normal? It is certainly not normal on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>And to think her big splash in the world of

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<v Speaker 1>academics happened after she'd already kicked off her acting career.

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<v Speaker 1>Danica has truly led an exceptional life, which has included

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<v Speaker 1>things like writing an advice column for Teenbeat magazine and

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<v Speaker 1>appearing in one of Avril Levine's music videos. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>excited for her to tell you all about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>so much more so. Let's bring her on my new

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<v Speaker 1>best friend, Danica McKellar. Everyone, Bubble and Squeak. I love it,

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<v Speaker 1>Bubble and Squeak, Bubble and Squeaker cooking at every month

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<v Speaker 1>left over from the nut before. What's up to Entica? Hey, Hey, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. How are you good? Where are you? I

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<v Speaker 1>am at home, but I just got back from Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>I just shot a Christmas movie. I was so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It actually comes out in November. Nice. Yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 1>me like Christmas stuff in the Christmas The movie is

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<v Speaker 1>called Christmas at the Drive In, by the Way, and

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<v Speaker 1>it will be on Great American Family is a new

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<v Speaker 1>channel very similar to Homemark. I know all about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about that and your your history

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<v Speaker 1>with Christmas. Uh, movies of of varying types. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to I want to start back with you though you

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<v Speaker 1>were You were born in Lahoya? Is that right? Very

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<v Speaker 1>close to where I live now? Yeah? I mean what

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<v Speaker 1>was it like being born in Paradise? Oh? I know

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<v Speaker 1>you just you just take it for granted and don't realize. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>Laoia is this incredible vacation spot. And to grow up

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<v Speaker 1>there and my dad still lives there. I go there

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. In fact, my family built the Laoia

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<v Speaker 1>beis and Tennis Club a couple of generations ago. No, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up at the beach club. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>have a lifetime membership just because I'm family. I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>a part owner um technically speaking. So yeah, that's buying

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<v Speaker 1>my roots. I need a discount. I need a friends

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<v Speaker 1>and family discount. I love that place. For those of

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<v Speaker 1>you who don't know, this is a it is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>private on the beach. It's one of like two in California.

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<v Speaker 1>It is absolutely And you think, what difference does that make? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What the difference it makes is? You can do anything

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<v Speaker 1>you want. That's basically it. If you want to make

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<v Speaker 1>a bonfire, you can have a bonfire. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to put a grill out, you can do that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an in doable place. I don't live quite close enough

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<v Speaker 1>that it makes sense for me, but it is a club.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, if you if you there's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>hotel as well, so you can stay at the hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>You can stay there, that's right, you can stay there

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<v Speaker 1>all the same benefits as a member. That is what

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<v Speaker 1>I have done. Yes, so that is very cool. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>always tell people it's only bad if you don't like perfect. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but you fairly early on age eight, you moved up

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<v Speaker 1>to Los Angeles. Why did you leave Paradise? So my

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<v Speaker 1>my parents divorced and my mom was producing music videos

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<v Speaker 1>of all things. She was a answer before and work

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<v Speaker 1>brought her to l A. And then my sister and

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<v Speaker 1>I decided we kind of wanted to try acting, and

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<v Speaker 1>she put us in acting classes at LEA Strassburg like

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<v Speaker 1>that same year, I think, and so very quickly it

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<v Speaker 1>like we started working, and then I started doing commercials

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<v Speaker 1>and things. We both did, me and my sister. About

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half later, I booked The Wondering Years,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was working as well. Okay, so the

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<v Speaker 1>Lee Strasburg Institute, for those of you who don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's like three who are considered to be the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>theater teachers Udahgen Lee Strasburg. I mean, this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is serious business. And so like at age eight and nine,

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<v Speaker 1>you're already taking classes there. Yeah, your classes kids, you

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<v Speaker 1>know well, of course, but we loved it. We loved

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<v Speaker 1>it so but my mom had she said my my

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<v Speaker 1>mom's rule was this, She said no projects would take

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<v Speaker 1>us away from home and no series. So I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to audition for any series. The part of Winnie

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper was only supposed to be a guest role on

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<v Speaker 1>the pilot episode only, so that's the only reason I

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<v Speaker 1>was even allowed to audition for it. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>got the job and we were midway through shooting, the

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<v Speaker 1>producers saying, hey, toll my mom, we really think that

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<v Speaker 1>Danna Kinfred had this really cool chemistry. So I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to extended cotton in. The network agrees we want

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<v Speaker 1>to if I never had to go to network for

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<v Speaker 1>that show. Uh, they like to to make for a

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<v Speaker 1>series regular. My mom was really torn about him. No, please, please,

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<v Speaker 1>please you because I loved working and I was I

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<v Speaker 1>loved the group, and because the other moms Joanne Savage,

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<v Speaker 1>James Saviano, Marsha Hervey, they were very much about their

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<v Speaker 1>kids and protecting their kids. They weren't that typical stage

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<v Speaker 1>mom do you think of like mom's shoving their kids

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the camera and you know, kissing after

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<v Speaker 1>the producers. These moms were all like, you know, our

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<v Speaker 1>kids or kids first. And because of that, my mom said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this might be an okay environment, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting a really expensive lawyer, and if there's any issue

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<v Speaker 1>of bread, have a loophole and you tell me, you

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<v Speaker 1>just say the word and you can just leave the

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<v Speaker 1>show at anytime, Like okay, I'm not going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But your sister, Crystal you mentioned, is active with you

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and presumably you both enjoyed it. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>read that both you and your sister were up for

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<v Speaker 1>the role of Wenny Cooper. Now was this? Did this

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<v Speaker 1>cause issues when you got cast with the family at

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<v Speaker 1>home and it was just a one time role. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like a big deal role that I got, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a one off. But they loved her so

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<v Speaker 1>much they said they were going to write a role

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<v Speaker 1>for her, and they did. She played Becky Slater. She

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<v Speaker 1>did I think nine or ten episodes. That's awesome. So

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<v Speaker 1>because you weren't auditioning for serious roles, this ends up

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a really big deal for you. Do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>anything about the audition? Yes, I remember. I remember we

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<v Speaker 1>auditioned on a Thursday callback for that Friday, and I

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<v Speaker 1>remember there's like a group of girls all reading for

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<v Speaker 1>the part of Winning Cooper, including me and my sister,

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<v Speaker 1>and the room got small and small, and I kept

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<v Speaker 1>having us come in and read again, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're taking a dinner break. You come back and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna read with Fred Savage, the boy who's playing the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>After dinner, I was like okay. So we all went

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<v Speaker 1>to dinner and there's a restaurant down belows the studio city,

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<v Speaker 1>and H remember seeing Fred and wondering if that was

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<v Speaker 1>the kid, and I was like, oh, he's cute. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if she's the guy who I'll be reading with,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was. I'm not sure I ever said in

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<v Speaker 1>this in an interview, but it came down to the

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<v Speaker 1>three of us, Me and my sister and this actress.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know her name, but she ended up with

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<v Speaker 1>like a couple of lines in the pilot episode. She's

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<v Speaker 1>the girl for people who are super fans of the

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<v Speaker 1>Wonder Years. Kevin is talking about love, you know, Junior High,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's this couple who's holding hands across his desk

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<v Speaker 1>saying I love you, I love you too, And she

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<v Speaker 1>was one of she was one of the three of

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<v Speaker 1>us who were the final contenders or Winnny Cooper. So

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<v Speaker 1>of the three of us who were sitting there reading

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<v Speaker 1>with Fred after dinner, we all ended up with Roles

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. With Roles on the show, that's awesome

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<v Speaker 1>that I love That's a BTS everybody. That's a behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes nugget. Um. I did talk for a while

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<v Speaker 1>to to Daniel Fishel about what I understand is the

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<v Speaker 1>same with you that you're your first kiss was on

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<v Speaker 1>camera with Fred in the pilot. How did that bring

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<v Speaker 1>some extra nerves? Oh for you, especially because at the

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<v Speaker 1>time I had a huge crush on him and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just so excited and so nervous. And I start

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<v Speaker 1>remember after the first take when they said cut the

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<v Speaker 1>whole Who started a plotting? And I don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>started that, but it was mortifying. I mean, you can

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<v Speaker 1>only imagine all the nerves, anticipation. You know, you're about

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<v Speaker 1>to have your first kiss, You've got a crush on

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<v Speaker 1>the guy, you know, and then it finally happens. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the most amazing moment ever. And it's like, wait, that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a private that wasn't real, Okay, right? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>did you think for the rest of your life every

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<v Speaker 1>time you kissed someone that would it would break out

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<v Speaker 1>an applause all around you. I remember when I had

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<v Speaker 1>my first real kiss at least two years, no year

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<v Speaker 1>and a half later, with Jeremy Miller, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the little boy on Growing Pains. That was

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<v Speaker 1>my first kiss. He was my first little boyfriend. I

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<v Speaker 1>was fourteen and he was thirteen, and and uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>was actually at my dad's house in Lahoya, were they

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<v Speaker 1>were down there for some reason, and so we all

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<v Speaker 1>hung out and then we're my dad's house and we

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<v Speaker 1>had a moment alone and and I remember thinking, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>is this gonna be my first kiss? And it was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so different because I don't know, oh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but not scripted, it may or may not happen. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So no, I didn't think You're gonna be cameras. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was like stunned at how addit felt to not

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<v Speaker 1>actually know how I was going to go now how

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to go down. Yes, um, you are

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<v Speaker 1>on the Wonder Years, basically your entire teenage years, right

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<v Speaker 1>twelve to eighteen. What was it like for you growing up?

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a huge show at the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody is talking about it, and everybody is talking about

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<v Speaker 1>you and and about Fred at the time. What was

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<v Speaker 1>it like for you growing up in the spotlight with

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<v Speaker 1>all of that attention during what for most is awkward

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<v Speaker 1>teenage years. I was not in touch with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the truth. I was not in touch with it

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<v Speaker 1>at all. At some point some point. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>was probably sixteen, and someone on set referred to me

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<v Speaker 1>as America's sweetheart, and I was like, what we're talking like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I was very busy with school and work

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<v Speaker 1>and family life and my mom on both my parents

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<v Speaker 1>always emphasize the importance of basically everything over show biz.

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<v Speaker 1>So health, family, school, and then sure showbiz. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>that was the prioriest game. In fact, when The Wonder

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<v Speaker 1>Years got nominated for the first time for an Emmy,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, we won that year. I wasn't there because

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<v Speaker 1>there was a river trip like a river rafting trip

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled with my dad and my sister that and he

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<v Speaker 1>had a really busy work schedule and we couldn't move it,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we went on the trip, I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of like, well, we have this invitation

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<v Speaker 1>we could go to the Emmy's where we could go

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<v Speaker 1>in this river rafting trip, And my parents decided together, know,

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<v Speaker 1>the trip is more important. And I remember being in

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<v Speaker 1>this tiny, little more Tell room in Oregon. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get in the Rogue River the next day, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a TV from the nineteen seventies. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know where. It was, tiny, little screen and we watched

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<v Speaker 1>The Wonder Years win the enmy we jumped up and

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<v Speaker 1>down the bed and like the we won, and we

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<v Speaker 1>went to sleep, got up at like five in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning and hit the river and had the trip of

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<v Speaker 1>our lives. I mean, I remember click picking black berries

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of the river with my dad and

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<v Speaker 1>my sister, and it's some of the most precious memories.

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<v Speaker 1>So that kind of thing, you know, that's that was

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<v Speaker 1>my life. My life was all the all the regular stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I went to work and I loved it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't the focus. I didn't go to Hollywood parties.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there would be like ABC affiliate parties here

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<v Speaker 1>and there that would go to with my mom, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. But I was never I was

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<v Speaker 1>never in that scene where I would have been offered

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<v Speaker 1>drugs or gotten going wrong group, but just that just

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't my reality. I was going to a challenging school

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<v Speaker 1>and it took up a lot of time and that

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<v Speaker 1>was my that's my focus. Were you doing set school

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<v Speaker 1>as well? Yes, So any day that I missed, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually I just take the homework and do it on set.

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<v Speaker 1>And we had a fantastic teacher David Combs. He was great,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was great at everything except for math. Like

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<v Speaker 1>he was fine. But when I got into pre calculus

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, they brought in somebody else, so I had

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<v Speaker 1>my own personal calculus tutor. I mean, in some ways

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<v Speaker 1>you could say that being on the Wonder Years helped

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<v Speaker 1>me in my math education. And ultimately, yeah, I became

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<v Speaker 1>a I don't want to jump ahead, but but like

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<v Speaker 1>I became a math major e c l A. They

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<v Speaker 1>love math so much, and I had all that wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>private tutor in for caculus um. I love that you

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<v Speaker 1>went river rafting instead of going to the Emmy's. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that that your parents were trying to keep that

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<v Speaker 1>normalcy and put their importance on on family and those

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<v Speaker 1>and those experiences. I do want to ask you, though,

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<v Speaker 1>what are some of your favorite memories from your teenage

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<v Speaker 1>years that that either were outside of the show or

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<v Speaker 1>or happened because of the show. Oh my gosh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a huge question. I mean I went to prom you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I would go to the Homecoming games. The

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<v Speaker 1>producers of the Wonderings were really really good about like

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<v Speaker 1>if we had some event coming up, they would try

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<v Speaker 1>to work around it. They weren't always able to, but

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<v Speaker 1>they always tried, so that was really special. Kent to

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<v Speaker 1>fulsky Um and Bob Brush. They were just wonderful and

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<v Speaker 1>really really cared about us being kids, So that made

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<v Speaker 1>a huge, huge difference, and I remember being really grateful

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<v Speaker 1>to them on several occasions, so that that's a happy memory.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to be, though, as big as the show God,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as your parents wanted to shelter you and

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<v Speaker 1>give you, as you say, a normal life, the experience

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<v Speaker 1>at what became Harvard Westlake, you must have been getting

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<v Speaker 1>some attention. There was that positive or was that a negative?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's in l A. I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that big a deal. Tori Spelling was a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years ahead of me. It's not a big deal. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>In l A. It was every now and then somebody

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<v Speaker 1>would have a problem with me, but it was really

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<v Speaker 1>not a big deal. And the guys definitely stayed away.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know it's just intimidating or what. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have a boyfriend eventually, but not from school. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt pretty normal, okay. And I'll say because we

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<v Speaker 1>were not one of those shows that taped in front

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<v Speaker 1>of life, suit of your audience. There, I only worked

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<v Speaker 1>on the days that I was in scenes. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you really watched the show, Winnie Cooper wasn't in that

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<v Speaker 1>many episodes until the very ill season. The sixth season,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in almost every one. But I would like

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple of weeks where I was just in school,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I have a week where I was only

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<v Speaker 1>worked two or three days. I would say I was

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<v Speaker 1>in my regular school at least half the time. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an interesting skill set to go back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth and back and forth. It's an interesting It would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a little easier if I just known kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what the deal was. But I'd be in school

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<v Speaker 1>and they say, Okay, we've got a history test next Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wouldn't know if I was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>there for it or not. And I remember when I

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<v Speaker 1>got to U c l A, how much of a

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<v Speaker 1>relief it was, like, Oh, wait, I can like set

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<v Speaker 1>mind the schedule. I can be dependable. I know what

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<v Speaker 1>next week looks like. Right when you start hearing things

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<v Speaker 1>on set about being America's sweetheart or whatever, when you

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<v Speaker 1>started to realize how important that relationship was too people

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<v Speaker 1>outside of it, do you think that that increased the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure of you portraying it or how did that affect

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<v Speaker 1>specifically your performance do you think I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>was aware enough of it to have affect my performance,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did affect the way I related to the world,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when the show was done. I mean, even through today,

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<v Speaker 1>having a certain sense of responsibility to people because of

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<v Speaker 1>the character that I play. I mean, I'm very similar

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<v Speaker 1>to any Cooper, to be quite honest. But it also

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<v Speaker 1>just so I did have a sense of responsibility the

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<v Speaker 1>whole time. We just didn't affect play the role, but

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<v Speaker 1>affected me in the world. Remember where I was probably

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<v Speaker 1>fortunate or fifteen, and I was offered a contract to

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<v Speaker 1>represent some sort of granola bark and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of mine. And I looked at the ingredients. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>with a sugar in hand, I don't like, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need sugar. And my mom was like really proud, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, no, I can't. I can't tell people to

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<v Speaker 1>eat this because they might listen to me and this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't what I would eat, so that's not healthy. So

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<v Speaker 1>we said no, and I remember my mom was like

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<v Speaker 1>so proud because of just no understanding that I had

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<v Speaker 1>a responsibility to the public and I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>a good leader and take this gift of being the

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<v Speaker 1>block I and do something positive with it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I look and I've certainly continued that I love mathematics.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I do with that now is I don't

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<v Speaker 1>go in a corner and do mathematics by myself. I

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<v Speaker 1>have all these books to help kids. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know that that the parents normally from the Wonder Years.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the kids normal me from my Christmas movies,

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<v Speaker 1>but the parents definitely know me from the Wonder Years.

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<v Speaker 1>And so to be able to take my position as

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<v Speaker 1>this public figure and people somebody who people look up to,

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<v Speaker 1>a character that people look up to you and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>well I can do something positive with that and help

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<v Speaker 1>these parents with you know, their kids math issues and

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<v Speaker 1>help do something to that. Well, you've transitioned beautifully. I

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<v Speaker 1>have not spoken, for sure in all of my guests

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<v Speaker 1>to a math genius until today. Um, you go to

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<v Speaker 1>U c l A. Well, first off, did you make

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<v Speaker 1>a conscious decision that you were going to take a

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<v Speaker 1>hiatus from acting like you were going to go to

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<v Speaker 1>school and focus on school? So I first went to

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<v Speaker 1>U c l A with the idea of being a

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<v Speaker 1>film major and learning the other side. And then for

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<v Speaker 1>the first year I still did jobs. I did a

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<v Speaker 1>movie with the Week for NBC, and I did like

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<v Speaker 1>an episode Bad one five, and I was doing things

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<v Speaker 1>here and there. But it's funny because I realized, wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, because it was it's so stressful going back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth, not again, not knowing if you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>there for something, leaving town, coming back, trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>up assignments, find out what the work was, get ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of the curb. All that stuff really really tough. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, so the wonder years and in

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<v Speaker 1>high school, like the law told you you have to

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<v Speaker 1>go to high school. Well now I'm an adult. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even have to be school if I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be. And I don't have to take any of

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<v Speaker 1>these jobs because they're all one off jobs, and that

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<v Speaker 1>it's less serious, Like what am I doing to myself?

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<v Speaker 1>So about a year into it, and I kept getting incomplete.

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<v Speaker 1>The professions, weren't letting me make up the exams. I'm like, what,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you just let me take it again? And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, if we just don't do that, like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>different fault, this is a different this is a different

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<v Speaker 1>landscape here. So I decided to take a break at

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<v Speaker 1>that point and just focus on school work. And at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, by that point, I had taken a math class.

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<v Speaker 1>It was multi variable calculus, and it was as tough

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<v Speaker 1>class I was. I was so nervous about because I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't taken math since high school. Its's been almost a

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<v Speaker 1>year since I've taken any math. Well, I still had

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<v Speaker 1>all my high school math notes, because that's just the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of first I am. And I studied them, learned

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<v Speaker 1>all the trigonometric identities for calculus, for doing integrals and

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, and so I get to multiple calculists

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like really prepared, and I had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea that I was so like overly prepared for this class.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a class of like a hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>three people. And I remember the first mid term exam.

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<v Speaker 1>I studied so hard for that. I memorized everything, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew everything, and yet the test was ridiculously difficult. I

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<v Speaker 1>got like a forty four or something out of a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and um. As it turns out, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>weader test. The professor raft the scores on the chalkboard.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty four was by itself, and there were a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of fifteens, and then it was like nine below and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the class of a hundred and six to

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<v Speaker 1>three people. I'm looking at my test. I'm looking up

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<v Speaker 1>and like, that's that's met working get the number wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was it was like it was all by

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<v Speaker 1>itself and everything was blow. It might have been twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>It was twenty two out of forties. Twenty two out

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<v Speaker 1>of forty. So I'm getting mixed up anyway. Point is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a numbers person because matters and don't getting the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers right. So I was like, I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, this is amazing. And the professor pulled me

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<v Speaker 1>aside afterwards and said, like, you've got a gift. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you you're really good at math, and like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I studied really hard. I don't know, but as it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out, that's part of it, studying really hard and

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to study hard and wanting to become a master.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that's part of It's not like you're just

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<v Speaker 1>a math genius and so it's just easy. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>what makes you good masking. Yeah, but hold on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Since I stopped talking about the Wonder years and started

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<v Speaker 1>talking about math, your energy has changed. So there is

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<v Speaker 1>something inside you that you love. It's of her from

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<v Speaker 1>being a genius. I love it. I want to learn it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to study. It's a puzzle. It's it's beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>if these proofs are beautiful. And he was just reading

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<v Speaker 1>a book she's talking about. She's trying to like bridge

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<v Speaker 1>mathematics and literature, and she says, if you happen to

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<v Speaker 1>be a mathematician, then you already have poetry in your soul.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yes, she gets it, she gets it,

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<v Speaker 1>because math is beautiful when you are doing this proofs

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<v Speaker 1>and you understand, it's like crystallized beauty. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know how to but you don't get to that until

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<v Speaker 1>you've gotten through calculus and gone through all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's all fun and good, and I would hope

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<v Speaker 1>that some people might get that who may not have

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<v Speaker 1>having been exposed to me talking about it. Yes, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, but just hold on first. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>three time New York Times bestseller, by the way, so

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<v Speaker 1>she knows what she's talking about. But four time, four

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<v Speaker 1>times our research was wrong. I'm gonna yell at somebody later.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a mathematical theorem with your name on it.

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<v Speaker 1>The chase is that right, Chase McKellar in theorem? She

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<v Speaker 1>has a theorem? All right, you gotta talk slower, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to explain elevator talk. What what is that?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the theorem relate to? It relates to a

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<v Speaker 1>two dimensional mathematical model of magnetic material that has to

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<v Speaker 1>do with temperature, and based on a temperature, whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not the magnetic material will hold its magnetic charge as

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you pull the magnets farther and farther away. That's kind

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:32.520
<v Speaker 1>of based on temperatures in temperature. So the colder it is,

0:23:32.800 --> 0:23:35.280
<v Speaker 1>it's mathematical physics. Really, the colder it is, the longer

0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>they'll stay magnetized. The low stone. But it's a two

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.399
<v Speaker 1>dimensional model of it, and it's kind of amazing and

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<v Speaker 1>an only con point in four directions the electroc theat

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<v Speaker 1>the polls, which is not anything like the real world.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's really cool about math is that it's the

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<v Speaker 1>language of the science is right, and it's amazing. Even

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<v Speaker 1>with a two dimensional model of the magnetic material, you

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<v Speaker 1>can still get a lot from it. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the paper, it's not like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of magnets. It's all this crazy looking math, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is all this? I did that during college. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a long time ago. And I look at the paper

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<v Speaker 1>now and I'm like, kind of sort of, yeah, I

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:14.879
<v Speaker 1>was there. Did I listen? I here's the crazy thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of understood what you said. Yes, I kind of.

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I kind of understood. What you say. Is way easier

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>than mass. If you can look at in the real world,

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.159
<v Speaker 1>there's something you can grab onto tangible. But if you

0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 1>if you don't, if you want to be kind of

0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:31.639
<v Speaker 1>not feeling is on top of this um, we'll just

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>say the title that's percolation. It gives its multiplicity for

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>fair magnetic Ashman teller models and two dimensions. It's fara magnets,

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 1>not regular magnets. Anyway, all right, what you lost me?

0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:44.159
<v Speaker 1>But I can tell you why to be lost. I

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:49.040
<v Speaker 1>think you were happy when you were lost. No, you're

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 1>exactly right. Here's a fun fact for everybody here. Now,

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 1>many people haven't an Urdos number. Burtis Iritish. It's actually

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 1>pronounced British Kurdish. Okay, so Danica has an Urdish number. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know who Paul Urtish is. Uh, He's an

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Huggarian mathematician. Of course, he's a very prolific mathematician, much like. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's think we should start with the Kevin Bacon number,

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 1>because Kevin Bacon number, that's what people know about, right,

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Urgish number. Yeah, people have Kevin Bacon number. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>how many degrees away from Kevin Bacon. You are, right

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<v Speaker 1>with Kevin Bacon. So I've got to baking a number

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<v Speaker 1>of two. Yeah, yes, and my Iurgish number. He wrote

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 1>many many mathematical papers. My my Iritish numbers four. So

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<v Speaker 1>together my Bacon Iurgish number, and there are only a

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 1>few people who have the can work with Kevin Bacon

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:45.119
<v Speaker 1>at some point, which I really must do, then I

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>can bring it down to five. I think I'm tried

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 1>with Natali Aportman right now. I'm not totally sure she

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>has an Earnish number. Yeah, oh yeah, Natalie Portman's your number.

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<v Speaker 1>What's what's her number? There's also six, but but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure. I haven't looked in years. It was years

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:04.399
<v Speaker 1>ago that I saw that. I was like, hmmm, because

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>she has written she she went to Harvard and she

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<v Speaker 1>did something really smart. It wasn't math, it was something else,

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>but it was something in the sciences. So this math

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>person did something with this science, and that science person

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>did something over there. And so it's still linked your

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<v Speaker 1>back to Paula Artisi. So you can crush her in math.

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:23.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe, but I he's super smart. She might

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>do on the side for all I know. It's all

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>about a competition for me. Um. So yes, you have begun,

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 1>not just begun. You've been doing it for for quite

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a while now, writing children's books related to math. Four

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 1>time New York Time best selling author. Why what was

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>missing in this category? Well, so in the year two thousand,

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I was I was invited to speak in front of

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<v Speaker 1>Congress about the importance of women in mathematics. I just

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 1>graduated from college and it was known that oh, Winnie

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 1>the math whiz okay and to auch a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>funny story. So this commission wanted to get more money

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>for scholarships for women in college to entice more women

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 1>to study the STEM careers. So they invited me to

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 1>testify basically about the importance of When my mathematics so

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.119
<v Speaker 1>they could get more money for this thing. But I

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't really thinking of it in that way. I was like, yeah,

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna help solve this problem in this country. So

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.639
<v Speaker 1>I read the hundred page report, okay, hundred pages, and

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>it was detailed. And in this document and this hundred

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>page document, it was clear that middle school was the

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 1>time when girls started to shy away from Matt. That's

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 1>when their confidence really started dropping, and then their grades

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>would drop after that. And I was like, wow, this

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:36.640
<v Speaker 1>is really, this is this is crazy, this is kids

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 1>need support in middle school. Like it's too late by college.

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:42.680
<v Speaker 1>So I get up there and in my four minutes

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I was given to give a speech, I say all

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 1>this and I say, look, it's too late by college.

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 1>So unwittingly, like like ruining their their whole plan for it,

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>invited me out there, um and uh. And they didn't

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>get the money, by the way, my fault. So I said, look,

0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 1>it's too late by then. Middle schools the time. And

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 1>here's the other thing my dad loves to tell people

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 1>because he was there. He came with me in the

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>executive summary, which is what the Congress people usually read,

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>because how they're not gonna read a hundred page report

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 1>on every single issue they're looking at. Right, it wasn't

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 1>in there. The thing about middle school was not in

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the executive summary. So this commission had paid for all

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>this research and put this paper together, but then they

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>put the argument that they wanted to try to get

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>their money because that's what I'm sure that's how politics works. Fine, whatever,

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 1>So I tell them, I say, I said, you know what,

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:29.120
<v Speaker 1>the information that I had to tell you, the most

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>important stuff, wasn't in the executive summary. And my dad

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>says that the congressman put glasses dentists will why don't

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you enlighten us, young lady? I said. I was like,

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>no problem. So I'm like, go on and time. I said, like, look,

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>middle school as the time the grade started to job

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>in this country is fourth grade. When you start to

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>see if it really by eighth grade. This is the

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>middle problem. I said, math. I said, if you have

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>your money to help a math education, give it to

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>middle school teachers. We need better middle school teachers. A

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of them are underpaid. You know, they're like gym

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>teachers who then are pulled in because they're they're low

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>on math teachers. We need to attract more math teachers

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 1>to middle school. This is when we really need that support. Also,

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>mathews better pr and I said, and I will be

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 1>working on that. I pledged to you that I will

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>do everything that I can to improve the image that

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>people have of math in this country because when you

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>started growing up, and I even talked about like on

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the Wonder Years, it's that time and life when you're

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>worried about who you are and trying to figure out

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>who you are. Well, if you're like, I don't know

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>who I am, but you're seeing all these stereotypes about mathematicians.

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>But but I'm not. I'm not that, I'm not a

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>math nerd. So I'm gonna just not look at that

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>plus be here that math it's too hard, it's too boring,

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 1>it's just for boys. It's whatever. It's it's other, it

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't apply to our lives, it's not relevant. I'm like,

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>this is all untrue. But let me, you know, let

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>me like work on that. So I told him I

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>will pledge to do what I can. So at that

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>point I was like, Okay, I'm not sure I'm gonna do.

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>But I started a website and then it was in

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>July of two thousand five when I did a lingerie

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>spread for Stuff magazine because I was thirty and I

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, I'm gonna show that you can still

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>look hot at thirty, which is so funny now in

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 1>my forties. Um. So it was a class every tasteful.

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>But that same month, in July two thousand and five,

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the New York Times decided to do a story about

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>my math paper that I had written years before. So

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>it was this great article that came out. And so

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>those two things came out the same month, and it

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>just kind of showed this duality, you know, like breaking

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>stereotypes about who's good at math. So I had a

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>couple of different literary agents reach out to me until

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>my manager saying, hey, we would we think that Dannicus

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>should write a book of some story. And at that point,

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing so much studying about middle schools, like

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I know exactly the book. I want it right, And

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>it was this one math doesn't Suck? I think, how

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>does provive middle school math without losing your mind or

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>breaking a nail? So this is the book that came

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>out in two thousand and seven, and uh runaway bestseller

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>like crazy, like couldn't keep it off. Shelf kept having

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>to reprint it because this book it teaches fractions and

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 1>decimals and percents and you know, proportions, solving for X,

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, but it does it like a girlfriend

0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>talking to my girlfriend. And it was it's friendly, it's successful.

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I have real world examples. Every single chapter shows you

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>how you might use that in real life. So I

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>had to, you know, tackle k It doesn't have to

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>just be wos. You can be a glamorous girl if

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>you want and still be good at math. Picture. Math

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>is the thing that's making your brain sharp and preparing

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>you to be in charge of your finances, preferring your

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>brain to be good at problem solving, and then you

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>can tackle anything any goal you have. But aspire if

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>you want to be glamorous, aspired to be the woman

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>in for in shields, holding your briefcase, walking down you know,

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Wall Street, and go into a super important job like

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>make that the type of glamorous that you aspire to.

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>And so that whole message was it just hit a nerve,

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>It just struck a chord, and everyone seemed to get

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 1>on board, and I was like person of the week

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>on ABC World News and like this crazy time, and

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was just gonna be the one book

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>that I would write. Well, eleven books later, here we

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 1>are writing book number twelve right now. And um so

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>next one was kiss My Math, showing creology with his boss.

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>And then I have hot X the Algebra book, and

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I've got girls Get Curves. John Ashul takes shape. So

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>it goes all the way up through high school geometry.

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>And then I had so many people saying, please write

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 1>little kid books. We want maths support even younger. And

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, it's true, even though you might

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>middle school at the time when you really see it

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>falling apart, the problem starts sooner and you can't. There's

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>no time. It's too soon to start showing kids that

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>math is part of your life, part of your life.

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>It's friendly. So this book Ten Magic Butterflies, it teaches

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>different ways of making ten from two numbers. It's a

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>story of these ten flowers who, one by one they

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>ask a fairy if they can become a butterfly, and

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:34.280
<v Speaker 1>they do and then but in the meantime, it's teaching

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>you how to make ten from two numbers one and nine, two,

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 1>and eight, three and seven. It takes you through the

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. So and then very good Kevin. This is

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the book that I can't believe it just called you, Kevin.

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you have people to call me Winnie? Like they

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 1>call me Winnie and I'm like, I can't, but I

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>forgive them. You must be in the same space. It's

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>just did that to you, and oh stop. The crazy

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>thing is this just happened to me today, right? You know,

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you go into a Starbucks and they make you and

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>especially if they're playing it very cool. You know, I'm

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>not thinking about it, and I give my name, which

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>is I know I don't And then I'm standing there

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>and you hear names start to be called up Kevin.

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't turn around because I'm like, oh no, I

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>mean clearly. And then I turned around and they're looking

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>at me, and it's like, all right, it's written on

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the car exactly. Wanted to call you, Kevin. Exactly. They

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 1>just love your character and that's why people love the

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>character so much. Anyway, what I'm saying was, this is

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the most recent like teaching book. It's the Times Machine,

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and it might be the one that I'm maybe the

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>most proud of it came out in which is just

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>in time, so many kids were falling behind. Already teaches

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>multiplication and division for third and fourth graders to help

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>memorize multiplication facts. And so I have this whole section

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 1>where I do like a story and a poem and

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>things for all the difficult ones, for example, six times seven?

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you know that one? I know them all. I'm

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>actually not bad for two. Go ahead, go ahead, quiz man.

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Now here's the story of Mr Masse. Mr mass loves

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>cheese because what mouse doesn't love cheese? Well, magine Mr

0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Mouse eats a six sided block of cheese every day

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 1>three weeks at seven right, six times seven. Well, by

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.919
<v Speaker 1>the end of the week, Mr Mouse is pretty full

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and farty too. I got what you did. I see

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>what you did there. Kids will then seven is forty two.

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 1>This is what this book does. The Times Machine, well,

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you something with all sincerity and all

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:43.640
<v Speaker 1>joking aside. I have a second grader and she is

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:48.839
<v Speaker 1>in love with math and is already at the start

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 1>of second grade, is already doing third grade math. The

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Times Machine sounds like for her, I'm going to get

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>her the Times Machine. We'll do it together. She was

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>just doing her eights with me the other day. We

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>do math together. She teaches me daily. So I want

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 1>to say to you, one, I appreciate what you're doing.

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 1>And I appreciate this, particularly as a father of girls,

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>that you are doing this for the girls. And I

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 1>hope she sticks with it, and you know what, if

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.879
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't and she finds something else, that's amazing too.

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:25.439
<v Speaker 1>But I want you to know I appreciate that. And uh, yeah,

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the Times Machine and by the way, I'm sure the

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Little Kid books all the way up through the Times Machine,

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>those are very co it's really starting with math doesn't stuck.

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 1>By the way, all the books can be found at

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 1>McKellar math dot com math dot com. You still have

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 1>a math going on, but a career, a math author career. Yeah,

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>but anytime you have a theorem, you're an act of

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:12.919
<v Speaker 1>math mathy. What brought you back to your acting career?

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you have so many credits I can't even

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>begin to name them. You've been doing this for so long,

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>but also a voiceover career as well, doing things like

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Young Justice, DC, Superhero Girls, Generation rex Um Acting on

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 1>camera or voiceover? What do you on camera? I love

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I love them both, but on camera, I just there's

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>so much more you can do. There's so much more innuendo,

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of subtlety. But look, voice, that

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 1>was super fun and you're done right away. It's fast,

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and you could could fully be a character that maybe

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:49.240
<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't normally get to play otherwise. And Young Justice

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>my character and Miss Marshall has gone so many places,

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.479
<v Speaker 1>dark places, places that you know that I haven't gotten

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 1>to do on camera because I don't come off that

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 1>way like I'm, you know, wholesome girl, light story and

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I always happen and I was over and it was

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>and I love it. I'm I'm very grateful. But you

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 1>asked me what brought me back? Um, it was missing

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>connecting with people. Matt is so much fun, but you're

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>why yourself most of the time. And I missed Sharon.

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I would even just try to have lunch with my

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:17.439
<v Speaker 1>mom and talk to her about what I was doing,

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 1>and I would have to keep defining all the words

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I was using, and it just by the time we

0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.720
<v Speaker 1>finished lunch, I had just finally finished all the definitions.

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>It couldn't even really by that point, she'd forgotten the

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>first one, because it's just not it's a totally different

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 1>language when you get up into the high crazy you know,

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>specific math stuff. So writing the books also turned out

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:38.319
<v Speaker 1>to an amazing way of connecting with people got math.

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:40.959
<v Speaker 1>But long before that, I had already gone back to acting,

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 1>and um, I've done a few independent films. And then

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>The West Wing came up and I got to read

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:49.879
<v Speaker 1>for Aaron Sorkin and some of that audition and he goes,

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I am crazy about you, and I was like, I'm

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>crazy about you. Amazing moment. I did like nine episodes

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 1>for The West Wing and it was fantastic. And then

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:02.800
<v Speaker 1>and then I got really into the math book writing

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>for a while. And then I had a baby, and

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:09.360
<v Speaker 1>then I year now after that, I got divorced and

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:11.879
<v Speaker 1>kind of restarted my life and moved with my mom.

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 1>And then um, yeah, I think I started doing I

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 1>started doing Hallmark movies in and I did like seventeen

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:24.479
<v Speaker 1>movies there in the space of like six years or something,

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and started your love of the Christmas movies. Absolutely, Christmas

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>at Dollywood with Dolly. Did you film at Dollywood for

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>a few days of it? Yeah, we shot mostly in

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Vancouver and then a few days at Dollywood, which and

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:39.800
<v Speaker 1>it was during Christmas to so they don't turn on

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>the Christmas Lives until the beginning of November, and these

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 1>movies come out like that movie came out the beginning

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>of December, so we shot the entire movie before and

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 1>then had like a couple of days at Dollywood. They

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>had to just cut stick in the movie to be

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 1>able to have that air on time. Instaying, I was like,

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>how is this going to happen? What was it like

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>working with Dolly? She is such a professional, she's so

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:02.479
<v Speaker 1>she's just she's larger than life in the best way.

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>She walked into the room, this big theater which is

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 1>where we shot the first stuff with her, and she

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 1>was like Mary, Christmas everybody and you just everyone was happy.

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean everyone was like waiting. It's like she's getting here,

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>so okay, well yeah to Dallas, come and say okay.

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 1>It's all this is anticipation. She walked in put everyone

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:21.919
<v Speaker 1>at ease. And she also knows how to make things

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:25.359
<v Speaker 1>sound good no matter what she's saying, so even if

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like threatening, this is one moment where so it

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>was it was on my clothes up and she was

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 1>walking past the camera to be to be over her

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>shoulder onto me, and there was a chord where she

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>had to walk and the DP said, um, I don't

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>want you to trip on that. She goes no, you know,

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and honey, right right, so good. So she's so good

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and anyway, so she I I absolutely adore her. That

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>was twenty nine and then it was last year that

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I made the move from Hallmark Channel to Great American

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Family and the Bill Abbott so he he left Hallmark

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and went to Great American Family and he kind of

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 1>just starting another Basically, it's another Hallmark. I mean, he's

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>creating what he created before. He revived the whole Christmas

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 1>movie genre, and then he really gave me this whole

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>section of my career that I love so much. And

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 1>it's been so much fun and playing these roles in

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 1>these movies where everything is going to work out. It's wonderful.

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I just I love giving people happiness and giving them

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>It's nut's not just an escape to people talk about

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:31.800
<v Speaker 1>this as being an escape, but it's more than that.

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a reminder of the good side of human nature.

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>And the Christmas movie is, in particular one of the

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:41.080
<v Speaker 1>things that Bill Abbott is always really specific about is

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.399
<v Speaker 1>you always want to talk about traditions within the Christmas movie.

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's a reminder of people to, oh, you know what,

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 1>it's good to have little Christmas traditions, however small they

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>might be, especially for kids, because it tells them what

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:56.759
<v Speaker 1>season they're in, it tells it's a grounding effect, and

0:40:56.840 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>it connects people. It connects the family together to have traditions,

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 1>whatever they are. So these movies give ideas for traditions

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 1>as well. And just kind of hearing that word makes

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you go, oh, right, it's Christmas time. We should do

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:15.959
<v Speaker 1>a tradition. I love that. November. Uh, your latest Christmas movie,

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Christmas at the drive In? By the way, how many

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:20.800
<v Speaker 1>of your viewers do you think have been to a

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 1>drive in? I don't know, you know what, honestly that

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have not been doing well. Okay I

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>have because of the movie, but I'm not sure if

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 1>that counts. And and to be honest, they've built the

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:37.360
<v Speaker 1>drive in. It was a working it's a working drive in,

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 1>like they built it projector and they built the whole

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 1>big screen in the whole thing. I don't know, I

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:47.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but they it should be because they well,

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 1>they built it on the on the back lot up

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 1>in Canada that they have So I don't know, but

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I've been to a drive in once, like

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>with my dad a long time ago. Yeah, I think so,

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid. Yeah, but this is the

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties style drive in the decor and the story

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>is that was built in the nineteen fifties. So my

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 1>co star, played by Neil Blasto, his father owned the

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 1>drive in, and his father passed away last year and

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>now it's his, but he doesn't live there anymore. Hasn't

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>been profitable for years, so he's gonna just sell it,

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.319
<v Speaker 1>and he's selling it to a place it's gonna knock

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 1>it down and building distribution center. And you know, my

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 1>character like loves the drive in and wants to save it.

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm a lawyer of property lawyer, so I get into

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.359
<v Speaker 1>the weeds. And the thing is he and I used

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>to be high school sweethearts, so we have to um

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 1>find it out. And then and then the Historic Commission

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:38.359
<v Speaker 1>they say, look, we'll give you three weeks to prove

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the drive in is more important to the town than

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the distribution center. And they say to Holden when I

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 1>coast if she has to prove that it that it's

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>more important than you have proved isn't, and then we'll

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>judge it from there. So that's that's the setup for

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the movie. And it's really fun and sweet. And this film,

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:56.760
<v Speaker 1>of well, starts of just nostalgia because breaks nineteen fifties

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 1>style drive in and also because there's all this memory

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>of the relationship they had as high school sweethearts and

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>how things have changed. And it's great. And I know

0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:07.760
<v Speaker 1>my fans, the fans of the Wonder Years are definitely

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 1>fans of nostalgia. So great American Family Channel November the Friday,

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the day after Thanksgiving, there you go, and I will

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 1>be live tweeting with that broadcast. Well you know, it

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>is the most wonderful time of the year. Yes, I

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:25.919
<v Speaker 1>prefer it starting on exactly the day that this movie

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>is coming out, So that's what I prefer. We're a

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:33.839
<v Speaker 1>little early right now, but by the time we get there,

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready. I'm all in. All right, I gotta ask

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you about one more thing. Is this math or is

0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:44.160
<v Speaker 1>this entertainment or is this both? I understand you are

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:47.720
<v Speaker 1>a judge on My Good Buddy Show. Eric stone Street

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Domino Masters. How did that come about? What did you

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 1>learn that was so much fun? Yeah? So I heard

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.839
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to have a meeting with me and they

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:00.320
<v Speaker 1>sent me a video. So, first of all, Domino Stors

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 1>For those who don't know, it's a show that was

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>on Fox this past summer, still on Hulu if people

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:07.439
<v Speaker 1>want to check it out. It's a competition reality show

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of like Lego Masters, but instead of Legos, it's Dominoes.

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 1>And the thing that Domino's you build these huge structures

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>with dominoes that also chain reaction machines, so it'll be

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, a ball rolling down inclined plane and nots

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 1>in new domino and then the domino things swirls around

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and they hit something else when the baseball back comes

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 1>around and falls down or whatever. It's it's a lot

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 1>of physics, a lot of math and physics. Well you

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:30.360
<v Speaker 1>don't you don't have to use numbers so much, but

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it's physics to well. Yeah, and that was actually

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 1>my challenge when they when they when I had my

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 1>like audition, they sent me a video of a domino

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 1>structure and chain reaction machine knocking down and they wanted

0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>me to like you know, judge it and a headshine,

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>thinking like what kind of Mathew things can I say?

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Like the mathemetition. I appreciate that they were what do

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you thousand dominos used? Because they didn't tell me how

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>many dominoes they were became a joke with me and

0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 1>my son. He was like, yes, well, as a mathemetician,

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 1>so we was aren't every sentence with asthmam petition? I

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 1>think this book weighs a certain amount of palms. Yeah, whatever.

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 1>So but I did talk about the physics of it

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:09.320
<v Speaker 1>a bit, but well, I'm not really a physics expert.

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm no math more than physics. But I studied about

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the angle of the dominance hid and how much faster

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 1>it goes and it closer together. I read, watched all

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>those videos and and become a camera expert, and I did.

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I actually even talked about math and some like how

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<v Speaker 1>you can prove with physics of the calculus that the

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<v Speaker 1>physics of a catapult fourty five degrees is the is

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<v Speaker 1>the best angle for the maximum distance. So I put

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff in. But as you may know, in

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<v Speaker 1>reality shows, they use like a fifth or like a

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<v Speaker 1>tenth of what you actually say so some of made

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of it didn't. But yes, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of be figuring out what's

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<v Speaker 1>the physics angle, what's the Mathew angle on this? But

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<v Speaker 1>I also made my audition about this. I said, this

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<v Speaker 1>was a great knockdown. You know what it was missing?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a story. I want a beginning, in middle and

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<v Speaker 1>the end. Just like good choreography and a dance. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to have a sense of where the stories have

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<v Speaker 1>a climax and then have a resolution, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>just a lot of really cool things being knocked down.

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<v Speaker 1>And that became part of the show. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>criteria was okay, what's the story, So that became I

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<v Speaker 1>became sort of the dual like physics slash storyteller expert,

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<v Speaker 1>and like Vernon Davis, he was all about the art

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<v Speaker 1>and just the aesthetic of it. That was his main focus.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Steve Price, the other judge, of course, was he

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<v Speaker 1>knows a lot of a dominant because he is a

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<v Speaker 1>dominant artist. Not well, this is this is you, this

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<v Speaker 1>is an artist, this is a mathematician. It's fascinating because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know someone created your left and right brains

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<v Speaker 1>to be of equal strength, which is very strong. So

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming to talk to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I fully grasped the math, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think I pretty much did. I think we're pretty

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<v Speaker 1>you got you got you know, six times seven equal

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<v Speaker 1>party too that you were facts and I got, I

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<v Speaker 1>got all that. I got all that when incid if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a daughter, it sounds awesome. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say about your darter, you said something I didn'te a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to address, and that is you said, even if

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<v Speaker 1>she finds something else that she likes instead, that's fine too.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, here's the thing about math. It trains your

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<v Speaker 1>brain to be a problem solving brain, and it helps

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<v Speaker 1>you to distinguish between what do I know and what

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<v Speaker 1>do I think? What am I assuming? It is the most,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, the most useful skill for a kid to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>It has nothing to do with whether or not they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna use math in their career, because they will use

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<v Speaker 1>math and their finances they will not. Kids who are

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of numbers tend to be adults who avoid numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know who doesn't avoid numbers? Credit card companies,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever is on the other end of the contract that

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<v Speaker 1>you're about to sign all that all these details. The

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<v Speaker 1>devil's in the details. So be good at math, feel

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<v Speaker 1>confident about it. And then if you use it, if

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<v Speaker 1>you love it, great, you know, because you're gonna use it,

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<v Speaker 1>love it or don't love it, but know that you

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<v Speaker 1>can do it though. And that's what I want for

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<v Speaker 1>kids from you know what, I can do this and

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<v Speaker 1>to get used to doing challenging things because when you're

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<v Speaker 1>when you practice doing challenging things, then when another challenge comes,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, whatever category of life is in you'll

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<v Speaker 1>learn to save yourself. Well, it's the good thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>got me in my side because this looks tough, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing. I'm here. And that's all through on

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<v Speaker 1>my books, these math books. Math doesn't s kiss my math.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all sorts of this positive reinforcement and teaching kids

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<v Speaker 1>that when things when you're struggling, that's good because that's

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<v Speaker 1>like going to the gym for your brain and when

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<v Speaker 1>you lift a heavy, heavyweight ear like that's when you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting stronger. To sort of celebrate all that to tell

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<v Speaker 1>your daughter, because I wanted her to embrace the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of doing challenging things as a good thing on its face,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's just by itself, just for the fact that's challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the benefit. That is one of the great

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<v Speaker 1>things about math, makes it stronger. Awesome, Dannica, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. I so appreciate you taking the time to

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<v Speaker 1>come on. And good luck with Christmas at the drive end.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, Anica. That was incredible. Happy Holidays

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Good luck on the movie. I know so

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<v Speaker 1>many we'll be watching. Thank you for coming on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast today. I can't wait to see what you come

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