Speaker 1: A quick note, this is episode two of a six
Speaker 1: part series. If you haven't heard the prior episodes, we
Speaker 1: recommend going back and starting there. It should also be
Speaker 1: noted that this series explores sexualized imagery involving miners and violence.
Speaker 1: Please take care when listening.
Speaker 2: I got a call when I was working up my
Speaker 2: old job at a clothing store, and I see one
Speaker 2: of the classmates popped up on my phone. She goes,
Speaker 2: I saw you on the website. I just want to
Speaker 2: let you know I'm also on this website.
Speaker 1: It was New Year's Eve twenty twenty, nearly a year
Speaker 1: after Kayla's father had knocked on her bedroom door to
Speaker 1: show her the images he had found of her online.
Speaker 2: And I remember just like walking away from the register
Speaker 2: and I was just like, okay, Like, how many other
Speaker 2: people are on there?
Speaker 1: Kayla wasn't the only one whose phone was lighting up.
Speaker 3: I got a text. I was parked in the mall
Speaker 3: parking lot outside of the entrance to the movie theater
Speaker 3: with my boyfriend at the time, who was about to
Speaker 3: start his evening night shift.
Speaker 1: Cecilia was tucked in the driver's seat while rain pelted
Speaker 1: the windshield. She'd planned to drop her boyfriend off at
Speaker 1: his job at the mall near Leavitt Town, the New
Speaker 1: York suburb where they lived. Before heading home, she.
Speaker 3: Said, Hey, can I talk to you for a second
Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, my boyfriend's going into work in
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes. You could call me then, and she texted back,
Speaker 3: he's going to want to hear this.
Speaker 1: The text was from a former last night, someone she
Speaker 1: hadn't talked to in months. When the phone rang, Cecilia
Speaker 1: put it on speaker.
Speaker 3: She said that her friend came across this website called
Speaker 3: come on Printed Picks, in which someone was posting photos
Speaker 3: of many of the girls that we had gone to
Speaker 3: school with, and she said that there are pictures of
Speaker 3: you on there, and I just wanted you to know,
Speaker 3: And she also sent me the link to the website.
Speaker 3: I opened the link immediately, with my boyfriend over my
Speaker 3: shoulder looking at it with me. The first things I
Speaker 3: saw when I opened that link, I remember, were photos
Speaker 3: of girls that I graduated with. A lot of them
Speaker 3: were just pictures from their instagrams. A lot of them
Speaker 3: had lengthy captions saying their name and their age and
Speaker 3: describing them in gross ways. I remember coming across mine.
Speaker 1: The photo was a selfie. Cecilia had taken it in
Speaker 1: the changing room of a clothing store a few months earlier.
Speaker 1: It was exactly the same photo she'd posted to social media,
Speaker 1: except in this one she was completely naked.
Speaker 3: He described me as a ripe latina plaything.
Speaker 1: And there were others, including one of Cecilia when she
Speaker 1: was a lot younger.
Speaker 3: I remember seeing a photo of myself as a child.
Speaker 3: I was in elementary school. I had to be five
Speaker 3: or sex.
Speaker 1: In the photo, she has chubby cheeks and ringlets that
Speaker 1: she's since grown out of.
Speaker 4: Next to that.
Speaker 1: Innocent image was an erect penis just resting there like.
Speaker 3: Like it wasn't and she's away from a digital image
Speaker 3: of a child's face.
Speaker 1: She started crying, describing it as that kind of cry
Speaker 1: where you sound like you're dying.
Speaker 3: It was such a terrible feeling, and I remember looking
Speaker 3: over at my boyfriend at the time, and he looked
Speaker 3: back at me, and we didn't share any words, but
Speaker 3: his the look his eyes.
Speaker 1: Several young women shared a similar experience.
Speaker 5: I felt gross. I felt like I needed to take
Speaker 5: a shower. I felt like I wanted to cry. I
Speaker 5: wanted to throw up, I wanted to scream.
Speaker 6: I didn't really want to look, but I had to look.
Speaker 7: It was the most horrifying thing.
Speaker 5: But you just can't look away, Like a car accident,
Speaker 5: but I'm the car accident. I was just like paralyzed
Speaker 5: on my couch for hours because it felt so surreal.
Speaker 6: And then that's when I went to my mom and
Speaker 6: I was like, there's like a whole thing going on.
Speaker 1: The news came while they were working a shift at
Speaker 1: their retail job or sitting at home watching New Year's
Speaker 1: Eve celebrations. Others were away at college parties and ran
Speaker 1: home in tears. In all, more than forty young women
Speaker 1: found themselves living some version of the story. And they
Speaker 1: weren't strangers. Most knew each other from MacArthur High School,
Speaker 1: they were on the same cheerleading squad, or they lived
Speaker 1: to feudors down from one another. So what are the
Speaker 1: chances that they were all targets of someone? They didn't
Speaker 1: know that this was all just a weird coincidence. Absolutely zero.
Speaker 4: I'm Olivia Carvill and I'm Margie Murphy from iHeart Podcasts,
Speaker 4: Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope. This is Levertown. That night, Cecilia drove
Speaker 4: back to her boyfriend's house and called the cops. An
Speaker 4: hour later, detectives from the Nassau County Police Department were
Speaker 4: knocking at the door. She hadn't been the first to
Speaker 4: call them interviewed her alone, a painful process that left
Speaker 4: her wrung out.
Speaker 3: After the meaning that I had had that night with
Speaker 3: the detectives, it became a little bit too much to
Speaker 3: bear again. That was the first night of knowing, and
Speaker 3: with that came a shark in betrayal and a lot
Speaker 3: of heavy emotions.
Speaker 4: At least four of the young women and their parents
Speaker 4: called the police that New Year's Eve. They were told
Speaker 4: pretty much the same thing Kayla had heard all those
Speaker 4: months before. The poster was anonymous, the photos were fake
Speaker 4: according to the law at the time, there was no
Speaker 4: real crime, but pretty soon messages were flying between the
Speaker 4: young women.
Speaker 7: I reached out to a bunch of people and let
Speaker 7: them know.
Speaker 4: Leah, who was a sophomore in college at the time,
Speaker 4: remembers two things hit her as she scrolled through the
Speaker 4: sod like one the shock of seeing her face tacked
Speaker 4: onto a naked body that was not hers, and two,
Speaker 4: the realization of just how widespread this was. She spent
Speaker 4: hours scrolling as she saw one classmate after another defiled
Speaker 4: in the same way.
Speaker 7: It was just a whole chain reaction of girls in
Speaker 7: our community that were involved in this.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, by New Year's Day, they weren't just offering each
Speaker 4: other support, they were determined to figure out who was
Speaker 4: behind this. As they texted back and forth, the women
Speaker 4: throughout names of potential suspects. One thought it was a
Speaker 4: guy from school who'd been stalking her for months, but
Speaker 4: there was another name that kept coming up. It was
Speaker 4: a guy most of them barely knew, but Cecilia did.
Speaker 3: I first met him when I was a freshman in
Speaker 3: high school. I remember he was very talkative, you know,
Speaker 3: easy to talk to.
Speaker 4: She described the group she used to hang out with.
Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but they were the Stoners.
Speaker 3: That's who I was with. We would hang out, they
Speaker 3: would have these great philosophical talks about whatever it was,
Speaker 3: the state of the world, you know, and I felt
Speaker 3: I felt so worthy, being deemed like valuable enough to
Speaker 3: kind of hang out with them and spend time with
Speaker 3: them while they were doing this. I'm just the girl
Speaker 3: that they, you know, let hang around. Honestly, it was
Speaker 3: probably just because I was pretty. They just let me
Speaker 3: hang out because I was a pretty girl and they
Speaker 3: could invite me over it. It was validating and reassuring
Speaker 3: to have a kind of association that I was a
Speaker 3: part of, like a little group that I was a
Speaker 3: part of that was mine. You know. They were all really.
Speaker 4: Really nice, except for this one guy.
Speaker 3: He was really sarcastic and condescending, but it was part
Speaker 3: of his charm. You know, he's just an asshole. We've
Speaker 3: all met this guy usually in high school. He's small
Speaker 3: and quick with a comeback. Nagging is basically how he
Speaker 3: talks to girls. When I was a sophomore, I had
Speaker 3: a lot of classes with him. I had almost all
Speaker 3: of my day with him, and we were friends, so
Speaker 3: we would talk until a month or two into the
Speaker 3: school year he blocked me on every social media that
Speaker 3: we had together and stopped talking to me in class.
Speaker 3: And he reached out to me and said, I don't
Speaker 3: hate you. By the way, he said, I would sooner
Speaker 3: restrict you from all formats of contacting me. I'm extremely
Speaker 3: attracted to you, so before that becomes an inevitable problem
Speaker 3: or upset for me, I might as well stop myself
Speaker 3: from even trying. Does that explanation suffice for you, and
Speaker 3: I said, I guess it does. And that was that.
Speaker 4: The rest of high school was awkward between them. Some
Speaker 4: weeks they were friends, he wanted to partner up in
Speaker 4: class and asked her for a ride home from school.
Speaker 4: Cecilia remembers looking up to him thinking he was really smart.
Speaker 4: Then it was like a switch would flip and he
Speaker 4: would start icing her out again. She hated it, but
Speaker 4: no matter what, he'd always pop up in Cecilia's socials
Speaker 4: to troll or debate her, like after she posted about
Speaker 4: the importance of mental health in the LGBTQ community.
Speaker 3: I remember he said, I know you see a lot
Speaker 3: of your ideals as common sense, but you need to
Speaker 3: know you're basically a fascist, and I'm just trying to
Speaker 3: advance you past the next five to ten years of
Speaker 3: irrational thinking, Like he's doing me some grand favor by
Speaker 3: coming into my social media and debating my ear off
Speaker 3: about whether this sentence is grammatically correct or not. You know.
Speaker 4: So on New Year's Eve, when Cecilia was staring at
Speaker 4: those doctored photos of herself and hearing from her former
Speaker 4: classmates that they suspected this old friend of hers, it
Speaker 4: was extra personal.
Speaker 3: It's hard to describe the kind of sinking feeling that
Speaker 3: I felt in my stomach. There are things you don't
Speaker 3: want to believe about your friends or people that you
Speaker 3: know are close to you.
Speaker 4: Some of the young women remembered getting notifications that he
Speaker 4: had taken screenshots of their pictures on Snapchat, like ones
Speaker 4: of them in bikinis. Then they'd see the same pictures
Speaker 4: on the website, now altered to make them appein it.
Speaker 4: Some recognized his handwriting on images where words like haw
Speaker 4: and slat were scrawled across their faces. For Cecilia, the
Speaker 4: tell was the long, detailed fantasies posted on the tributing website.
Speaker 4: She recognized the writing style.
Speaker 3: I know how he types, and reading his paragraph long
Speaker 3: dedications to these girls that he finds disgusting, I read
Speaker 3: them in his voice, so it was enough to make
Speaker 3: me not a question that it was him.
Speaker 1: One after another, the young woman showed up to the
Speaker 1: police station, and when asked who they thought was behind
Speaker 1: the posts, many of them had the same answer. They
Speaker 1: figured the police would take it from there, but the
Speaker 1: police told them that these suspicion weren't enough. They would
Speaker 1: need hard evidence, the kind that could help them prove
Speaker 1: in court who had written the posts and as far
Speaker 1: as the women and their families knew, that's where the
Speaker 1: police were leaving it. They didn't hear much, if anything,
Speaker 1: from the detectives after giving their statements. But as the
Speaker 1: new year turned into spring and then summer, the anonymous
Speaker 1: poster got bolder, uploading hundreds of new photos. These young
Speaker 1: women watched in horror as a barrage of deep faked
Speaker 1: nude images, pictures of them as young as thirteen flooded
Speaker 1: the tributing website.
Speaker 5: Seeing these horrible things and people commenting on what we
Speaker 5: look like and you know, putting our faces on screenshots
Speaker 5: of foreign videos.
Speaker 1: New accounts with names like tween Hunter were posting and
Speaker 1: reposting increasingly graphic fakes. Some of the threads reached thirty
Speaker 1: thousand views. Full names, addresses, phone numbers, and actual social
Speaker 1: media handles went up next to the images. The poster
Speaker 1: was encouraging others to reach out to the women, to
Speaker 1: send them voice notes threatening to rape them to death.
Speaker 1: By the spring of twenty twenty one, some of the
Speaker 1: Levittown women were getting direct messages to their Facebook, Instagram,
Speaker 1: and Snapchat accounts their photos beside male genitalia or covered
Speaker 1: in semen. Others got late night calls from foreign numbers.
Speaker 1: When they picked up, they only heard heavy breathing and moaning.
Speaker 1: Kayla told me that she didn't want to live in fear,
Speaker 1: but she did. She lived in fear of going outside,
Speaker 1: in fear of men, and fear of being herself. She
Speaker 1: had nightmares of me and hunting her.
Speaker 2: But I could hear them like trying to find me,
Speaker 2: and they would like say my name, and like they
Speaker 2: would say the things from the website, like the milk
Speaker 2: me and pea on her, like they were saying those
Speaker 2: things while trying to find me.
Speaker 1: She also dreamed that the images on the website had
Speaker 1: come true, that she had the words rape me tattooed
Speaker 1: on her forehead, just as she'd seen on the website.
Speaker 2: I mean, I live every single day scared of man.
Speaker 2: I mean not all men, but strangers, yes, all the time.
Speaker 2: Because God forbid, it's someone that was on that website
Speaker 2: that has just passed me on the street. You don't
Speaker 2: know that, and that's scary.
Speaker 3: Suddenly I'm not post seeing my face on my Instagram
Speaker 3: because I don't know who's gonna find it, you know?
Speaker 3: And I directed so much guilt and uh so much
Speaker 3: of his hate towards myself.
Speaker 1: Most of the Levettown women turned their social media accounts
Speaker 1: to private, but many deleted them all together. One dropped
Speaker 1: out of college, another told me she lost twenty pounds
Speaker 1: from the stress. Two confided that they had started carrying
Speaker 1: knives everywhere they went. These are the stories we heard
Speaker 1: from the women who agreed to talk to us. We
Speaker 1: reached out to many others who either didn't respond or
Speaker 1: didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 5: I felt horrible for the main victims. I mean, we
Speaker 5: are all victims, but there were some people who had
Speaker 5: it much worse.
Speaker 1: Leah not have been the main target. Others found dozens
Speaker 1: and dozens of posts with their image and likeness, but
Speaker 1: still whoever was doing this posted Li's full name and
Speaker 1: phone number on the site. She worried what would happen
Speaker 1: if someone, anyone really an employer, a romantic partner, ever
Speaker 1: googled her.
Speaker 5: I was really worried about my future because I wanted to,
Speaker 5: you know, like go to medical school, and I was
Speaker 5: worried about the safety of all of my friends, and
Speaker 5: what if these pictures, you know, get lead to like
Speaker 5: their family members, and they can ruin relationships. Because some
Speaker 5: of them were so realistic. This could ruin many people's lives.
Speaker 4: As the months went by, the women reported that the
Speaker 4: harassment was escalating. Their parents were terrified, not only because
Speaker 4: of what their children were going through, but because the
Speaker 4: police didn't seem to be doing much. Cyber harassment cases
Speaker 4: are notoriously hard to prove. Gathering digital evidence can be
Speaker 4: time consuming and hard to capture, and most perpetrators cover
Speaker 4: their tracks. Many of the parents created their own group
Speaker 4: chats to brainstorm what to do. They were outraged that
Speaker 4: their daughters were still being targeted, while the person they
Speaker 4: believed was responsible for all this was right there among
Speaker 4: them in Levettown. If law enforcement couldn't do anything about it,
Speaker 4: they were going to have to do something themselves.
Speaker 1: That summer twenty twenty one, one of the Leavettown women
Speaker 1: saw an image that almost broke her. We recorded an
Speaker 1: interview with her, but she wasn't comfortable using her actual voice,
Speaker 1: so the things she said in that interview will be
Speaker 1: voiced here by someone else.
Speaker 6: I've learned not to trust anybody very private with things
Speaker 6: now I don't really talk to anybody that I don't
Speaker 6: trust and obvious naive because that was my problem. I'm
Speaker 6: too nice.
Speaker 1: The photo that almost broke her was a photo of
Speaker 1: herself smiling, wearing jeans and a white tank top. Beside
Speaker 1: that appeared to be a deep fake of a woman
Speaker 1: in the exact same outfit, her hands tied behind her back,
Speaker 1: covered in blood, with a plastic bag over her head.
Speaker 1: The caption said her body had been found near an
Speaker 1: abandoned construction site, that she had been raped. We're calling
Speaker 1: her Cat because she asked not to be identified by
Speaker 1: her real name, but the post she found listed her
Speaker 1: real name and claimed a snuff video of her murder
Speaker 1: was circulating on the dark.
Speaker 6: I'd had enough.
Speaker 4: It had to stop.
Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, this is like more serious, and
Speaker 6: I need to know. I just need to know who
Speaker 6: it is.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: She was aware that others thought they knew who was
Speaker 1: behind all this, but the suspect was a guy she'd
Speaker 1: known since she was five. They grew up three blocks
Speaker 1: away from each other.
Speaker 6: In my head, I was almost defending him. I was like,
Speaker 6: I don't think it's him, There's no way it's him.
Speaker 1: In high school that had a lot of classes together,
Speaker 1: including a photoshop class, and while they didn't hang out,
Speaker 1: they were still sort of friends, like they would snapchat
Speaker 1: occasionally outside school.
Speaker 6: In high school, he got a little bit more like
Speaker 6: I don't really give a shit vibe about anything. He
Speaker 6: was smart, so like he knew what he was talking about,
Speaker 6: you know, but anybody who said anything to him is
Speaker 6: just like, Okay, I don't care. I'm smarter than anybody.
Speaker 4: Kat talks about him in the same way Cecilia does.
Speaker 4: He would troll her at times, but was also smart
Speaker 4: and could be fun. He knew how to push her buttons,
Speaker 4: calling her naive. He'd tell her the world was full
Speaker 4: of shitty people and sure, you want everything to be okay,
Speaker 4: but it's not. She knew all this, but she didn't think,
Speaker 4: or maybe didn't want to think it was him. She thought,
Speaker 4: perhaps that she would be able to both clear his
Speaker 4: name and figure out who was doing this once and
Speaker 4: for all.
Speaker 6: Then that's when I went on the website. I sat
Speaker 6: there for like, I had to look at things I
Speaker 6: did not want to look at.
Speaker 4: From her bedroom at night, she carefully examined every post.
Speaker 4: The suspected harassment made I spent.
Speaker 6: Like hours going through it, and then I went to
Speaker 6: video of his own page where he would post himself.
Speaker 4: Cat found that the person posting deep fakes of her
Speaker 4: and her classmates was also posting explicit pictures of himself
Speaker 4: on the website.
Speaker 6: He would post things of himself, pictures of himself, not
Speaker 6: his face, like his body and his parts.
Speaker 4: She found one picture where he appeared to be wearing
Speaker 4: girls underwear while standing in a little girl's bedroom.
Speaker 6: Let me look in the background, Let me see if
Speaker 6: I could see anything in the background. So I saw
Speaker 6: stuffed animals and I was like, all right, let me see.
Speaker 4: She saw a white dresser with brown trim and a
Speaker 4: stuffed toy sloth on the bed. Kat knew the guy
Speaker 4: everyone suspected had younger twin sisters.
Speaker 6: So I went on his TikTok and I looked up
Speaker 6: his sister and then I had the same exact stuffed
Speaker 6: animals in the same background, and I was like, okay.
Speaker 4: His sister was posting dance videos to TikTok and they
Speaker 4: were filmed in the same bedroom with a white dresser
Speaker 4: and brown trim. Even that stuffed toy was in the
Speaker 4: same spot on the bed.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, this is crazy. It really is him.
Speaker 1: His name was Patrick Carey. He definitely wasn't a stranger.
Speaker 1: He was nineteen years old and he had also gone
Speaker 1: to MacArthur High. His dad, like Kayla's, was a cop.
Speaker 1: He lived three blocks away from cat just over the
Speaker 1: back fence from their old elementary school in Levettown. She
Speaker 1: went back to the police.
Speaker 8: They came to me with a photo of Patrick Carrey
Speaker 8: in the bedroom.
Speaker 1: In August, Kat and her mum printed out the screenshots
Speaker 1: the images on TikTok and on the website, and they
Speaker 1: brought them to the lead detective on the case, Timothy Ingram.
Speaker 8: These girls they did their own investigating and they did
Speaker 8: excellent work. They would make great detectives.
Speaker 1: But when I recently sat down with Detective Tim Ingram,
Speaker 1: he told me that from the first day the woman
Speaker 1: came in, the police were proactive.
Speaker 8: A lot of my coworkers hadn't really seen anything like this,
Speaker 8: where it was to this level of you know, him
Speaker 8: posting everywhere for so long, with so many.
Speaker 1: Victims, He said. They immediately filed subpoenas for information connected
Speaker 1: to users of the website, but getting an answer takes
Speaker 1: time and Ingram said he didn't want to talk to
Speaker 1: Patrick until he had enough evidence to arrest him. The
Speaker 1: police did eventually find out that one of the users
Speaker 1: on the website was posting from an ip address that
Speaker 1: traced back to Patrick's family home, but even that wasn't
Speaker 1: enough to arrest Patrick, and the police still had to
Speaker 1: figure out what exactly to charge him with, because while
Speaker 1: New York State had laws on the books for revenge
Speaker 1: porn and child sexual abuse material, the images had to
Speaker 1: be real, and in this case, they were fake.
Speaker 8: Being that it was a very new type of crime
Speaker 8: where we it was a gray area per se, where
Speaker 8: we weren't even sure if this met the criteria it's
Speaker 8: filipenal law charge.
Speaker 1: We attempted to speak to Patrick Carrey for the story
Speaker 1: and he declined. But while the police may have been
Speaker 1: closer to making an arrest for the young woman of Leavittown,
Speaker 1: the fear didn't just go away. Kat was glad that
Speaker 1: she helped match Patrick Carrey with the postings, but she
Speaker 1: was still terrified, and Cecilia was struggling to cope with
Speaker 1: the fact that the person who had done this to
Speaker 1: her was someone she had considered a friend.
Speaker 3: It kind of touches a part of your soul and
Speaker 3: just breaks it in. Hah, because you watched me kind
Speaker 3: of grow up. You know, you spent most of my
Speaker 3: teenage years with me, So you're telling me that all
Speaker 3: of that time that you spent with me, watching me
Speaker 3: kind of become the person that I am, was enjoyment
Speaker 3: to you. Because you were watching me turning to rape me.
Speaker 3: It kind of feels like he hallowed me out of
Speaker 3: that made me who I am, And that is one
Speaker 3: of the most horrifying things I think I've ever experienced.
Speaker 3: They don't mind that he didn't respect me, you know,
Speaker 3: or see me as a friend. I mind that he
Speaker 3: didn't even see me as a person, you know, And that.
Speaker 4: Sense of horror it wasn't limited to Cecilia and Kayla
Speaker 4: and the other women in Levittown, because powered by this
Speaker 4: one website, that sort of harassment is hugely scalable. As
Speaker 4: Detective Ingram started looking into the site, he saw that
Speaker 4: the more than forty women in Levittown and their alleged tormentor,
Speaker 4: which is a small part of a much bigger ecosystem
Speaker 4: of men exploiting women in an interactive global arena.
Speaker 8: Somewhere in Scotland, somewhere in Russia. They were everywhere.
Speaker 4: Hundreds, maybe thousands of women and girls all around the
Speaker 4: world were on the site. Olivia and I started to
Speaker 4: get interested in what or who was behind this global
Speaker 4: clearinghouse of non consensual pornographic images. Turns out we weren't
Speaker 4: the only ones. Next time on Leavettown.
Speaker 9: You have certain police officers there that will wait for
Speaker 9: calls to come in and then now go and respond
Speaker 9: to those courts. I like to identify myself as a hunter.
Speaker 9: I'm the person that will go and hunt people. If
Speaker 9: you're given pray, you want to go and get it.
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