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Speaker 1: and we're bringing you midterm election coverage Futuro Media style,

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Speaker 1: Thick co host Julio Ricardo Barela is joining me for

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Speaker 1: this one. Hey Julio, Hey Maria, and we're super excited

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Speaker 2: So let's get started.

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Speaker 1: From Futuro Media and PRX, a first time election collaboration

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Speaker 1: between Latino USA.

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Speaker 3: And In the Thick, a podcast about politics, race and culture.

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Speaker 1: I'm Mariegra Pols and i'm today we're breaking down the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two midterm and what the election results mean

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Speaker 1: So first things first, there was no so called red

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Speaker 3: Is right and Democrats actually exceeded expectations, although to be honest,

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Speaker 3: Voters rallied around abortion rights, delivering decisive victories to pro

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Speaker 1: The country's demographics are dramatically shifting away from an older

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Speaker 2: The voters directly ahead of election day.

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Speaker 1: We asked our Latino USA and are in the thick

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Speaker 2: So here we go.

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Speaker 4: I have three girls, and I just have to make

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Speaker 5: I do feel a responsibility to be an activist in

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Speaker 1: You know, we're super grateful because, let me tell you,

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Speaker 1: You picked up the phone and you called, like I said, rotary,

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Speaker 4: We got you.

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Speaker 7: In particular, this year, I'm extra moved because of road Wade.

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Speaker 6: The main issues at this point is voter suppression.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to hear from you, dear listener, exactly what

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Speaker 6: I'm a former Democratic Party activist, but.

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Speaker 3: Trash different communities around the United States. They have unique

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Speaker 1: And that for us as political junkies, journalists who really

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Speaker 1: So previous midterm elections like twenty eighteen, had the highest

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Speaker 1: Issues like the economy central to Latino and Latina voters.

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Speaker 11: My priority for this country to country at five four

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Speaker 8: Climate change is the critical thing that I feel people

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Speaker 2: And yes, even misinformation.

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Speaker 8: What it's moving me to vote? First of all, all

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Speaker 1: Overall, people said that they were losing faith in political

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Speaker 1: Republicans were dishonest, propagandists to extreme in their views. Democrats,

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Speaker 2: And I have to say it's kind of terrifying.

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Speaker 1: Right We're seeing the value and importance of our vote

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Speaker 11: I want to vote against every Republican that is an

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Speaker 8: We have to stand up for democracy before party democracy

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Speaker 10: I care about our democracy. I care about the future

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Speaker 1: So our callers, all of the voices that we heard from,

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Speaker 3: DeSantis won re election pretty handily with sixty percent of

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Speaker 2: And that guy's a big time Republican.

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Speaker 12: We will never ever surrender to the woke mob. Florida

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Speaker 1: But in Florida, big news we saw Maxwell Alejandro Frost,

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Speaker 7: People, right.

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Speaker 3: And there were also other firsts for Latinos and Latinas.

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Speaker 3: For example, in California, two Democrats made history. Alex Padida

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Speaker 13: A woman pregnant across that border, drowned so that her

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Speaker 1: Now there's a Senate runoff in Georgia between Republican candidate

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Speaker 1: Also, the right to abortion prevailed unanimously. It became enshrine

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Speaker 6: Hi Julio, Hi Maria. This is not gny Amendus calling

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Speaker 2: Latino and Latina voters were key.

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Speaker 1: We've been saying that Latino and Latina voters were key

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Speaker 1: Some of this is in part attributed to the Democratic

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Speaker 1: So Maya, we're seeing Democrats repeatedly take black and brown

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Speaker 16: The overarching theme I think of the last two years

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Speaker 16: I'm not sure if this is front of mine for voters.

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Speaker 16: I think the big thing, particularly for black voters in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: And that's like the entire country is like zeroing in

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Speaker 1: You're right, like, in terms of a national appeal, Catherine

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Speaker 1: Cortez Masco is the person who keeps her head down.

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Speaker 2: She's the Latina who you know, but lays it down

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Speaker 1: Because this is all what politicians do, right, Like, if

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like she's there's a fire.

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Speaker 3: You can't just go to bad bunny concerts, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: So one am I wrong? Should I really just be like,

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Speaker 9: I don't think that's wrong at all.

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Speaker 17: I've talked to her many times, both during the campaign

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Speaker 17: And even when I would talk to her about abortion

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Speaker 17: But even you when I would follow her or talk

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Speaker 17: She definitely made a bigger deal this cycle that she was,

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Speaker 15: I don't forget where I come from. I have a

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Speaker 15: They worked hard, and my parents worked hard in this

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Speaker 15: the story of so many Latino families across our state.

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Speaker 15: It's the story of so many Latino families across the country,

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Speaker 15: right right, I know, I know my family, not only

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Speaker 15: those that are here today, but those that have passed

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Speaker 15: would be so proud to see me serving as the

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Speaker 15: first Latina in the US Senate.

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Speaker 14: But even prouder to see me reelected.

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Speaker 15: I will continue to fight for a Latino community.

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Speaker 17: But she would always go back to some of these

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Speaker 17: cultural signifiers, whether it was Levi Hendouila Lupe and seeing

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Speaker 17: her in her grandmother's home, or the fact that because

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Speaker 17: she had came from two families with immigrant backgrounds Italian

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Speaker 17: and Mexican, that she was at a crossroads there.

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Speaker 9: It was nice to hear her.

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Speaker 17: Talk about that because there are those elements that, you know,

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Speaker 17: maybe I have family members who might not necessarily want

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Speaker 17: to speak Spanish or know how to speak it well,

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Speaker 17: but that doesn't make them any less Latino. And that

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Speaker 17: was kind of what she was getting at, that she

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Speaker 17: comes from a community.

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Speaker 9: She has this background.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so to bring you into this Maya, you know,

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Speaker 3: one of the things talking about the Latino community nationally

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Speaker 3: in the midterms, obviously there was a lot of attention

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Speaker 3: given to Florida Governor Ron De Santis and him winning

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Speaker 3: Miami Dade and you know, the big sweep of Florida

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Speaker 3: and Latinos going for Marco Rubio as Senator. And then

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Speaker 3: there was a lot of focus on Texas. Right there

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Speaker 3: was this talk about that Republicans would win the three

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Speaker 3: House seats in the Rio Grande Valley and they only

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Speaker 3: won one, you know. And also Governor Greg Abbott was

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Speaker 3: re elected even after his refusal to put laws to

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Speaker 3: address gun violence after the mass shooting in Uvalde, which

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Speaker 3: is a predominantly Latino community, and in his victory speech,

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Speaker 3: Abbott already called for anti immigrant policies.

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Speaker 12: The new Republican Congress has has they have promised to

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Speaker 12: do their job to secure the border. We must hold

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Speaker 12: them to their promise. They must reinstate, they remain in

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Speaker 12: Mexico policy and go back to building our border wall.

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Speaker 3: When you look at places like Texas and Florida with Latinos,

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Speaker 3: with other communities like you know, black voters, Asian voters,

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Speaker 3: Indigenous voters. They're still heavily Latino states. Now that you

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Speaker 3: have these governors with such radical views and rhetoric, do

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Speaker 3: you think like that will continue to play in these

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Speaker 3: two states, in our Texas and Florida sort of the

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Speaker 3: outliers of the Latino vote.

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Speaker 16: It's interesting, you know, we came into this midterm cycle

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Speaker 16: expecting a red wave, expecting a total domination of Republicans,

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Speaker 16: and part of that calculus that we heard from a

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Speaker 16: lot of conservatives are these broad inroads that Republicans felt

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Speaker 16: they had made with Latinos. But what came to pass

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Speaker 16: was not quite certainly not the red wave that we saw,

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Speaker 16: and not you know, major, major inroads with Latinos, and

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Speaker 16: that in a way that was super meaningful for the

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Speaker 16: GOP to be able to say we can lay claim

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Speaker 16: to this group of people, which would be unfair one

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Speaker 16: because we already know how diverse Latinos are as a

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Speaker 16: voting block.

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Speaker 9: They don't all vote the same exactly.

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Speaker 16: And as a native Floridian, I'll also say that DeSantis'

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Speaker 16: resounding victory in that state, particularly with Latinos, I think

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Speaker 16: one is a reflection in part of a message that

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Speaker 16: might resonate with a lot of Latino communities, particularly in

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Speaker 16: South Florida, but also in a weakness of democratic organizing

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Speaker 16: in that state, correct, because I can also remember the

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Speaker 16: days when Florida was very much in.

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Speaker 3: Play and in the last ten years. And this is

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Speaker 3: not some surprise reporting. You talked to many operators in

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Speaker 3: Florida who've worked on these campaigns. They have said that

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Speaker 3: Democrats sort of missed the opportunity with this community. Is

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Speaker 3: that what you get from being a native Floridian and

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Speaker 3: also a politics.

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Speaker 16: Reporter, certainly, And it's not as if these voters have

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Speaker 16: just left the state, that they've just somehow disappeared. I

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Speaker 16: think that Democrats have left those voters on the table.

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Speaker 16: Republicans are running away in Florida, in particular, saying our

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Speaker 16: message is the message that resonates with the largest number

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Speaker 16: of Latinos and immigrants of color in general in Florida,

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Speaker 16: and we know just doing the reporting and talking to

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Speaker 16: people on the ground that that is not entirely the case. However,

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Speaker 16: we also know that Democrats have not quite put back

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Speaker 16: hard enough with a message and an organizing infrastructure that

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Speaker 16: is strong enough for them to be back in play

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Speaker 16: in Florida, and so I think Georgia.

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Speaker 9: To get back to back to the runoff.

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Speaker 3: But I think you're absolutely right bring it back to Georgia.

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Speaker 16: I mean, just because this is where I've lived and

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Speaker 16: for the last nine months and spent so much time.

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Speaker 16: I think that Georgia Democrats will have some lessons to

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Speaker 16: take from Florida. The demographics are very different and the

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Speaker 16: dynamics are very different, but you have a large number

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Speaker 16: of Latinos, especially in the Atlanta suburbs, who are still

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Speaker 16: very much in play, and I think are actively seeking

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Speaker 16: a strong enough message to be able to coalesce behind

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Speaker 16: a party or a candidate and mass, and not just

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Speaker 16: a month or a few weeks before an election. And

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Speaker 16: you also have an organizing infrastructure in place that after

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Speaker 16: some serious losses up and down the ballot, Democrats are

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Speaker 16: going to have to do a little bit of recalibration

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Speaker 16: and so making sure that the next coalition that they

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Speaker 16: build for twenty twenty four is strong enough to stay

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Speaker 16: in some substantial headwinds from the GOP in Georgia.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Christian, I want to bring into this, but

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Speaker 3: here are my theory. You ready for my theory.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, let's go, all right, let's go.

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Speaker 3: So if we consider Florida and Texas to be sort

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Speaker 3: of the Latino outliers, and then you look at the

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Speaker 3: Southwest and the West that have become more bluish, right,

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Speaker 3: you look at you know, Arizona and Nevada and Colorado

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Speaker 3: and all those other states. What's your take on this,

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Speaker 3: because you've actually written about this in the past. Are

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Speaker 3: Democrats sophisticated enough to understand how complex the Latino voting

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Speaker 3: electorate is? Because then if you take places like the

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Speaker 3: northeast or Pennsylvania where Latinos did play a role in

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Speaker 3: those winds, how do you start breaking this down given

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Speaker 3: the Florida and Texas context, which I do think takes

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Speaker 3: a lot of air in the room your thoughts.

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Speaker 9: It definitely takes up a lot of air.

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Speaker 17: And this is true in political media, it's true of

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Speaker 17: political campaigns. But a bit of a misunderstanding or simply

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Speaker 17: not wanting to understand just how different the West and

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Speaker 17: southway can be and how much potential and hope there

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Speaker 17: is for Democrats especially there there is a chance at

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Speaker 17: you know, having that nuanced understanding, and some of it

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Speaker 17: comes from simply elevating people in those organizations who have

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Speaker 17: that understanding and want to maybe change some of the strategy,

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Speaker 17: or giving new voices power and money to be able

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Speaker 17: to do that, because so much of it. You know,

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Speaker 17: you can have a seat at the table, but if

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Speaker 17: you don't actually have a chair and something to say

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Speaker 17: doesn't really matter. But yeah, you look at the Southwest

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Speaker 17: and you have an electorate that is very very different

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Speaker 17: in that it is predominantly Mexican Americans exactly. Those populations

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Speaker 17: have years of experience with oppression, with you know, discrimination,

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Speaker 17: with very very aggressive and in some cases very bigoted

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Speaker 17: politicians attacking them at the state and local level, and

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Speaker 17: a response of organizing by very young cohort of people

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Speaker 17: who are now in elected office and bringing behind them

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Speaker 17: even younger people who are entering into the electorate. And

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Speaker 17: these are folks who are just much more willing to

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Speaker 17: listen to a Democratic message to begin with, because it's

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Speaker 17: Democrats who've been along with them and fighting back against

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Speaker 17: some of that discrimination. And so you have a population

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Speaker 17: that's also incredibly young still that has opportunities to be

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Speaker 17: talked to and to be engaged. So I guess the

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Speaker 17: question of whether Democrats are able to they are able.

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Speaker 9: To engage those people.

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Speaker 17: It is a question of will they and will they

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Speaker 17: elevate some of those voices that know how to talk

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Speaker 17: to the nuances there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they are a political party that has been

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Speaker 1: part of the United States, let's see, for a very.

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Speaker 2: Long time, for a very very long time.

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Speaker 1: So you're right, the story is right there in front

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Speaker 1: of them. You know, we continue to talk about why

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Speaker 1: don't they do that, you know, because they are walking

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Speaker 1: away from something, all right, talk about walking into something.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about walking right into Georgia, all right,

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Speaker 1: where it's like literally the whole world is watching Georgia.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the Senate runoff election that's coming up

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Speaker 1: next month, and that's the reason why poor Maya doesn't

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Speaker 1: get a break. So neither Reverend Raphael Warnock nor herschel

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Speaker 1: Walker received more than fifty percent of the vote.

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Speaker 2: It was super tight.

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Speaker 1: So the gubernatorial election between Republican Brian Kemp and Stacy Abrams.

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Speaker 1: What we did see here was that many voters split

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Speaker 1: their ballot right, choosing the Democrat Warnock for senator, but

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Speaker 1: then choosing the Republican Party Kemp for governor.

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Speaker 2: So Maya.

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Speaker 1: Can you break down the Stacy Abrams kind of everybody's

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Speaker 1: talking about, well, she should just walk away. She lost again,

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Speaker 1: it's over. Can you talk Maya about racism and or sexism?

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Speaker 1: Or you know, when I look at the numbers for

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Speaker 1: Latino men and women, she got fifty five percent.

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Speaker 2: What happened there?

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Speaker 16: This is a question with so many different facets, but

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Speaker 16: I'll break it down in a few It starts with

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Speaker 16: the message that Abrams in her campaign put forth in

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Speaker 16: twenty eighteen, a little bit more subtly, but it was

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Speaker 16: certainly there, and that is this is a black woman

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Speaker 16: born and raised in the Deep South running for an

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Speaker 16: office that has long been occupied mainly by white men,

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Speaker 16: and never a black woman in a state that has

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Speaker 16: never seen anything like this before, in the Deep South

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Speaker 16: state of Georgia. She was doing that sort of changing

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Speaker 16: or trying to change the face of leadership while also

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Speaker 16: trying to change the electorate and change the makeup of

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Speaker 16: the electorate, one to prove to national Democrats that the

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Speaker 16: Deep South is still in play for them, but also

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Speaker 16: to create an electorate that she and other Democrats in

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Speaker 16: Georgia would be able to win in. But we see

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Speaker 16: the outcome again in this twenty twenty two midterm with

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Speaker 16: some of the figures that you point out that that

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Speaker 16: face of leadership really frankly, there were some people in

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Speaker 16: Georgia who just didn't agree with her on the substance

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Speaker 16: of her policy. But I mean, I think it's absolutely

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Speaker 16: fair to say there were also some voters who still

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Speaker 16: harbored prejudices and just could not picture a black woman

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Speaker 16: as the governor of Georgia. It's also hard, though, from

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Speaker 16: a political sort of strategy standpoint, to run against an

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Speaker 16: incumbent who is constantly, constantly vilifying you.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, our roundtable on the twenty twenty two midterm

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Speaker 1: elections continues, stay with us.

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Speaker 2: I guess hey, we're back.

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Speaker 5: So I was undocumented growing up here in the United States,

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Speaker 5: and when I was about thirteen or fourteen, I became

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Speaker 5: politically active, and I have been involved with every presidential

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Speaker 5: election since John Kerry, I believe in high school. And

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Speaker 5: let me tell you, this is the least involved I've

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Speaker 5: been in an election my whole life. I am now

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Speaker 5: thirty nine years old. These politicians do not deserve our vote.

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Speaker 5: They definitely have taken advantage of the Latino vote. The

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Speaker 5: Latino support. They take us for granted, and I am

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Speaker 5: reluctantly voting straight Democrat tickets due to the that there's

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Speaker 5: no way I will ever vote for a Republican. We

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Speaker 5: need to either take over the Democratic Party and really

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Speaker 5: stand for what we believe in, or we need to

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Speaker 5: form our own third party that better serves our names.

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Speaker 5: Both of those seem highly unlikely with all those old

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Speaker 5: ass geriatric as schools running the party. So unfortunately, I

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Speaker 5: am voting straight Democrat. My name is Frianna, and yes,

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Speaker 5: I am no longer undocumented, so I guess I'm voting

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Speaker 5: for people that can't vote, but.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: This does not seem like a democracy to me.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep going now with our roundtable conversation with

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Speaker 1: Box senior politics reporter can we stand us? And New

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Speaker 1: York Times politics reporter Maya King. We're going to zoom

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Speaker 1: out now to the big picture. What are these results

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Speaker 1: actually mean for the future of our country and yes,

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Speaker 1: for our democracy?

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Speaker 3: All right, So, obviously young people played a big role

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Speaker 3: in the midterms, So millennials in Gen Z are on

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Speaker 3: track to be the largest voting block in the country

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Speaker 3: by twenty twenty four. And in this election, they voted

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Speaker 3: overwhelmingly for Democrats. So according to Tish College of Civic

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Speaker 3: Life in Tufts University, it estimated that twenty seven percent

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Speaker 3: of eligible voters between eighteen to twenty nine years old

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Speaker 3: showed up, which is still quite low. So low twenty

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Speaker 3: seven percent is still quite low. Sixty three percent of

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Speaker 3: them voted for Democrats. Across the board. There are certain

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Speaker 3: issues that gen Z voters on both sides of the

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Speaker 3: aisle are more likely to acknowledge, like racial justice and

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Speaker 3: climate change. Already in this election, we saw how young

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Speaker 3: voters shaped elections in key battleground states. So Christian, how

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Speaker 3: do you see younger gen Z voters shaping future elections

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Speaker 3: and do you think their approach to policy will push

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Speaker 3: both parties to be more progressive?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, this kind of goes back a little bit to

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Speaker 17: what I've talked about the Southwest and the future that

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Speaker 17: Democrats have there because it's Latino and black and Asian

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Speaker 17: American young voters and young people who in many many

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Speaker 17: states in the Sun Belt already make up like the

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Speaker 17: majority of gen Z and of the younger vote that

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Speaker 17: will eventually enter the electorate. And it is true that

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Speaker 17: they in general are more progressive or more open to

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Speaker 17: progressive ideas. The problem is that a lot of folks

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Speaker 17: this is getting back to the vibes part of the election.

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Speaker 9: Oh, there's a ViBe's part. There's a ViBe's part like this.

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Speaker 17: Okay, it doesn't get captured in polling, but there is

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Speaker 17: dissatisfaction disaffection with electoral politics in general. And this is

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Speaker 17: true of young people in general across previous generations, like

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Speaker 17: when the Baby Boomers were young and when Gen X

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Speaker 17: were considered the young voters. It's just a nature of

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Speaker 17: youth disaffection with politics. It's gotten more I guess the

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Speaker 17: stakes have gotten more existential this time around because of

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Speaker 17: things like climate change being actual, very very real concerns

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Speaker 17: for young people and actual being a very big problem objectively. Yeah,

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Speaker 17: you know, climate change, abortion rights, when it comes to

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Speaker 17: marijuana legalization, those are things that young people will turn

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Speaker 17: out for. You point to Michigan, a perfect example of

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Speaker 17: a state where the legislature, the governor's office, a referendum,

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Speaker 17: we're key ways to defend abortion rights because they were

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Speaker 17: under attack at every level in that state. You know,

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Speaker 17: we're seeing a little bit less of the power of

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Speaker 17: candidate versus issue issue being a little bit more of

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Speaker 17: a motivating thing than a particular candidate is. And so

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Speaker 17: that's one way to get to young people talk about

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Speaker 17: the issues and how those affect you in everyday life.

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Speaker 17: And this is incumbent on you know, politicians, to explain

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Speaker 17: to young people why they are limited within the current system.

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Speaker 17: And that's you know, there's a saying in politics, right

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Speaker 17: if you're explaining you're losing, don't wait until you have

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Speaker 17: to be losing to begin explaining.

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Speaker 16: Interesting, I'll just add very quickly, I really don't think

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Speaker 16: we can overstate how important the Dobbs decision was over the.

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Speaker 1: Summar fact, Maya, that was you just gave me this

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Speaker 1: segue because that was going to be the question. So

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Speaker 1: the question is, and I actually said this, Maya. I said, look,

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Speaker 1: this will probably backfire, as we say in Mexican Spanish,

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Speaker 1: the Basalin. It backfired in fact, because it inspired young voters,

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Speaker 1: women voters.

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Speaker 2: The numbers are coming in. But yes, when Roe v.

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Speaker 1: Wade was overturned, there was a lot of outrage and

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Speaker 1: in a sense, when we've said this too, that a

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Speaker 1: lot of the media run by men, actually have a

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Speaker 1: problem talking about abortion, and so the conversation was focusing

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Speaker 1: more on inflation and gas prices. But it really seems

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Speaker 1: that young people, women, people who care about abortion rights

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Speaker 1: in general did not forget it was front and center,

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Speaker 1: and several of our listeners called in when we did

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Speaker 1: our call in, citing abortion is the main reason for voting.

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Speaker 2: So, maya, why.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the media overlooked the impact that something

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Speaker 1: as personal frankly and asked political and as such an

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Speaker 1: important part of American women's history, Why is it overlooked

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Speaker 1: in terms of the impact that it has on elections?

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Speaker 16: I think a challenge for some political reporters, and I'll

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Speaker 16: include myself in this number because I think I made

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Speaker 16: this mistake too. Is we thought that Dobbs was going

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Speaker 16: to kind of reach its apex over the summer and

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Speaker 16: then in that post Labor Day rush get lost in

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Speaker 16: the mix of many other issues, namely the economy. But

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Speaker 16: what we didn't account for was the way that would

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Speaker 16: change the electorate in terms of the explosive turnout that

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Speaker 16: we saw from women, and I think a little bit

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Speaker 16: unexpectedly from younger people, and that I believe we can

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Speaker 16: draw a straight line from the Dobbs decision over the

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Speaker 16: summer to that level of turnout and that shift in

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Speaker 16: the electorate where you saw so many people saying, I

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Speaker 16: didn't really feel that I needed to vote this year.

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Speaker 16: You know a lot of people who don't normally historically

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Speaker 16: vote in midterms really couching their entire vote in their

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Speaker 16: concerns about an increasingly radicalized Republican Party and a Supreme

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Speaker 16: Court that is starting to make decisions about their bodies

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Speaker 16: doing things that are out of their control.

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Speaker 3: One of the big takeaways from this election is that

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Speaker 3: we can't rely on polling one hundred percent. Many big

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Speaker 3: media organizations reported on these gop led claims of a

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Speaker 3: red wave which didn't really happen.

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Speaker 9: It just didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: And then you add the misinformation about voting, of which

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Speaker 3: Latinos are a big target. So if people are being

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Speaker 3: told that the election is a wash or one party

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Speaker 3: will sweep, they may become de incentivized from voting. So Christian,

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Speaker 3: what lessons do we as journalists have to carry from

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Speaker 3: this encovering future elections, especially now as we saw this

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Speaker 3: week that Donald Trump has announced another presidential run in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, there's a lot to impact here in terms of

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Speaker 17: lessons and things for reporters to do better. But I

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Speaker 17: think what reporters need to remember here is how to

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Speaker 17: use polls. I think people use polls to be predictive

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Speaker 17: when they are temperature checks of the moment in which

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Speaker 17: they were taken. And to many political reporters look at

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Speaker 17: polls and don't necessarily look at who commissioned the poll

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Speaker 17: or whether that particular poster released their methodology, and so

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Speaker 17: scrutinizing polling better, not necessarily buying a narrative if it

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Speaker 17: does seem like it's being pushed by partisan actors. Particularly

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Speaker 17: in the closing weeks of this election, we saw a

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Speaker 17: lot of Republican funded polls coming out. And also, this

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Speaker 17: is one of my biggest criticisms of media right now,

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Speaker 17: is just how willing we were and a lot of

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Speaker 17: outlets were to buy some of these and thinking of

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Speaker 17: debates about literally about a debate, for example, in Arizona

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Speaker 17: where Katie Hobbs wasn't going to debate Carry Lake, and

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Speaker 17: how many people put so much weight into like they're

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Speaker 17: not debating, Or in Pennsylvania with John Fetterman and his stroke,

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Speaker 17: how many people in political journalism were willing to buy

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Speaker 17: that narrative.

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Speaker 1: The narrative that he was disabled and therefore, and it's

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Speaker 1: like you're creating the headlines, you're creating the fire, and

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Speaker 1: then you're like, oh, whoops, actually we're going to put

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Speaker 1: the fire out. So maya, you know, let me ask

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Speaker 1: you this because one of the things that was very

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Speaker 1: interesting to me was that basically there is a conversation

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Speaker 1: now about people leaving the Republican Party, you know, breaking

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Speaker 1: from Trump. I focused on newspapers owned by the Murdocks,

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Speaker 1: like the Wall Street Journal, the New York Post, putting

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Speaker 1: out headlines criticizing him. So do you think that Republicans

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Speaker 1: will finally leave Trump turn away? Or are you just

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Speaker 1: getting ready to watch with fascination what happens over the

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Speaker 1: next two years or is it fascination or is it

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Speaker 1: just kind of like, oh no.

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Speaker 16: I think it's more the fascination. You know, this is

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Speaker 16: not the first time that conservative outlets have sort of

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Speaker 16: started to suggest, in more frank terms now say Trump

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Speaker 16: should not be the leader of the party, should not

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Speaker 16: be the party's nominee. We did see on the Sunday

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Speaker 16: shows a number of high profile Republicans start to suggest

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Speaker 16: that they would be very open to moving on because

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Speaker 16: I think a lot of Republicans, perhaps even a majority

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Speaker 16: if you're talking to them privately, believe that the party

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Speaker 16: does need a new leader in twenty twenty four. Trump

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Speaker 16: had a really rough midterm cycle. He endorsed a lot

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Speaker 16: of candidates who were low quality, who did not win,

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Speaker 16: who might not have even made it out of their primaries,

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Speaker 16: and now staring down a pretty rough midterm election cycle

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Speaker 16: for his party where the red wave that we all

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Speaker 16: anticipated would come ended up being sort of a red ripple.

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Speaker 9: Red ripple. I love it.

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Speaker 16: A lot of Republicans are pointing their fingers at Trump,

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Speaker 16: saying that he is scared a lot of people in

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Speaker 16: the electorate that they can tie the Dobbs decision to

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Speaker 16: the Supreme Court justices that he nominated, And I think

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Speaker 16: Republicans are feeling like they have to move in a

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Speaker 16: different direction now. Whether or not, though that attitude holds,

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Speaker 16: is a really big question, because even while Republican leaders

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Speaker 16: might suggest and signal that they are ready for a

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Speaker 16: new leader in twenty twenty four, Donald Trump still has

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Speaker 16: the overwhelming support and admiration of the Republican base. So

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Speaker 16: until that changes, I think it's going to be a

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Speaker 16: lot of whispers and mealy mouthedness, but we'll see.

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Speaker 9: You just dropping. I love the imagery. That's a great word.

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Speaker 9: I think I just made up a word there.

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Speaker 2: We'll take it.

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Speaker 18: Hello. My name is Jessica Rossa. I am a thirty

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Speaker 18: year medical student. I'm a Georgia resident, but I'm doing

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Speaker 18: my rotations in South Florida. So I voted blue down

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Speaker 18: the ticket. I voted for Sacy Abrams and Reverend Warnock.

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Speaker 18: And one of the things that is at the forefront

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Speaker 18: is obviously how voting and politicians can affect medicine in general.

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Speaker 18: One of the main things that I can think about

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Speaker 18: when I'm talking about this issue is how it impacts

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Speaker 18: my education. So, because I'm practicing in the Southeast, where

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Speaker 18: abortion is very restricted, a lot of the people that

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Speaker 18: are going to be teaching me are more hesitant, and

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Speaker 18: so my education when it comes to how to perform

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Speaker 18: these procedures or how to assist individuals for dealing with

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Speaker 18: this topic, is severely impacted in a negative way compared

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Speaker 18: to my colleagues who are getting an education in states

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Speaker 18: that abortion is legal. Places like to say to Georgia

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Speaker 18: I think eighty counties or more do not have an

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Speaker 18: OBGI in so it's up to family physicians to provide

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Speaker 18: that kind of care. And I would like to become

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Speaker 18: a family medicine doctor. So just thinking about how that

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Speaker 18: impacts my education now and then in the future, my

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Speaker 18: ability to serve my patients is one of the bigger

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Speaker 18: things that I am voting for.

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Speaker 19: So listen before we let you two fabulous guests wrap up,

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Speaker 19: we're going to move on to our final segment, which

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Speaker 19: we call Lauri ma Inos Bamos, the last one before

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Speaker 19: you go.

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Speaker 1: All right, So we've heard from our listeners about their

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Speaker 1: top concerns, and you both have been talking to voters

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Speaker 1: on the ground throughout this cycle. Wherever I've been going,

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Speaker 1: I've been talking to voters Julio two. So now that

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Speaker 1: we're on the other side of this election, you know,

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Speaker 1: for me, the headline was democracy one right, and also

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Speaker 1: that you can talk about saving democracy and reproductive rights

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Speaker 1: in the same conversation as a campaign issue. What are

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Speaker 1: the issues that you're kind of like thinking about that

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Speaker 1: have just stuck with you. Yeah, like cheek lit, like gum.

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Speaker 1: We're going to start with you, Calise Stan, what has

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Speaker 1: stuck with you.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, what's stuck with me?

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Speaker 17: I think it is the complexity of how people thought

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Speaker 17: of the state of the economy, really, because it was

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Speaker 17: a big thing. If you look at some of the

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Speaker 17: exit polls, people were frustrated with the economy, frustrated Joe Biden.

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Speaker 17: But then there was some diversity and some interesting results

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Speaker 17: when you looked at people who described that they were

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Speaker 17: being severely hurt by inflation versus moderately hurt by inflation,

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Speaker 17: versus not really being hurt by inflation, and it was

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Speaker 17: in not really and moderately being hurt by inflation that

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Speaker 17: Democrats did very well, actually surprisingly and then severely obviously

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Speaker 17: those people voted more likely for Republicans, and that despite

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Speaker 17: all of that, people said, yeah, gas prices are hurting,

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Speaker 17: yan inflation is bad, but actually is that as bad

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Speaker 17: as potentially losing a right? And that was it just

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Speaker 17: sticks with me, how much Like secretary of state candidates

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Speaker 17: did very well too, and in some places ran ahead

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Speaker 17: of other statewide Democrats, and so secretary of state race,

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Speaker 17: Like you can talk about inflation, but it comes down

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Speaker 17: to like voting there.

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Speaker 9: When was the.

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Speaker 3: Last time you brought up national conversations about secretary of

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Speaker 3: State in American politics.

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Speaker 9: Think about that, true.

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Speaker 1: I love that the maya. What's your final take? What's

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Speaker 1: something that has stuck to you, like like gum.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, Christians was mine.

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Speaker 9: Actually, though you can.

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Speaker 1: Expand, Oh my guys, political nerds, unite and please expand.

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Speaker 16: I'll shift. What really has stuck with me. On top

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Speaker 16: of that is what a great night Joe Biden had.

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Speaker 16: That Literally nobody anticipated that the man who everyone was

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Speaker 16: preparing to see sort of start to be ushered on

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Speaker 16: his way out at the end of what was expected

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Speaker 16: to be a party shillacking is actually pretty comfortably positioned

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Speaker 16: now to run for a second term and has had

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Speaker 16: one of the most successful midterm cycles of any.

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Speaker 9: President in American history, right exactly. So that has really

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Speaker 9: stuck with me.

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Speaker 1: All right, and the fact that he's just a good president.

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Speaker 1: His approval ratings are not through the roof. So if

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Speaker 1: the country voted like this, that says a lot in

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Speaker 1: terms of where the country could be going, signals a

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Speaker 1: lot for the Republican Party and the MAGA wing, and

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Speaker 1: I think we're all hinging on as always. Latino, Latina voters,

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Speaker 1: black voters voters that are considered non traditional.

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Speaker 2: Where are they?

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Speaker 1: I just I really want to thank the both of

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Speaker 1: you for bringing the high level of political nerdiness to

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Speaker 1: our conversation.

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Speaker 2: It was beautiful.

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Maya King, politics reporter for The New York Times. Gris

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Speaker 1: dan Pas, senior politics reporter for Vox, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining HULUO and me on this special Latino

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Speaker 1: USA and in the Thick collaboration post election roundtable.

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Speaker 9: Much, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 9: T T T T T T T.

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Speaker 3: We need to come up with a new election furturo

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Speaker 3: media song like you know how NBCs this calling.

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Speaker 9: You gotta come up with that.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be twenty twenty four anyway, please, absolutely

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Speaker 3: we need our own