1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Brading. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is no They call 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: me Ben. We are joined as always with our super 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: producer Paul, Mission controlled decond. Most importantly, you are you. 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this stuff they don't 9 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: want you to know. We wanted to start the show today. 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: You know, we always usually do a little bit of 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: a check in, but we wanted to start the show 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: today with a bit of a state of the union. 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: As you and millions of other people here this show today. 14 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: You odds are you are listening to it while you 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: are bunker it a weigh somewhere, possibly self isolating, and 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: we want you to know that the four of us Noel, Paul, 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: Matt and myself are doing the same. This is our 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: first episode that we're recording remotely. Yes it's true. Ben. 19 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: Are we allowed to spoil what's going on with you 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: right now? Or is this just for us? Please feel free, 21 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: feel free, well bad, but well you know not only 22 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: are we seeing each other for the first time. Well, 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: Paul's usually on the other side of some sort of screen, 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: a glass screen, but now it's a real virtual screen. 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: Ben is wearing uh something of a costume today, um, 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: and I'm quite enjoying it. Slash terrified by it. Well 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: it okay, I just want to describe ben situation a 28 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: little bit. Ben, stop me if it's too much. In 29 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: the shot of Ben, we've got a luchador mask that 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: is white and red primarily in color that Ben is wearing. 31 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: It looks epic. He's got his headphones on behind him, 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: there's a there's the cutest cat that you've ever seen, 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: and some candles in it just looks like an epic 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: uh time. I just want to be hanging out over there, 35 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: but I'm stuck here in my house. Um. Which, by 36 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: the way, you may hear a child running around every 37 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: once in a while, hopefully not, but you may end 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: up hearing that in these recordings. We'll do our best 39 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: to remove it. Matt. Did you leave out the Batha 40 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: met altar on purpose or were you just thinking we 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: would spare people in detail. That's just it's just the 42 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: way my office looks, Guys. I'm sorry, no I was 43 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: talking about Ben's Batha met altar. Oh, I want to 44 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: describe everybody's set up here. So Noel, since since you're 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: up right now, I want to say, Uh, Noel is 46 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: by a windows, got a lovely Uh you're you're a 47 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: bit of a connoisseur of art. So Noel's got some 48 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: awesome art hanging up there in the back and then 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: one by the window. And you've got you've got kind 50 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: of a glow from the window. Man, it looks really cool. Thanks. Man, 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: it's sort of a back lighting situation. I appreciate you 52 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: acknowledging my glow. And is that a stratocaster? What is 53 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: hanging out that? Is a jazz a master? Oh yeah, 54 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: I've been doing a little work on I got the 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: action just like I like it, and uh got a 56 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: bunch of cool effects pedals that I've been toying around 57 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: with keeping myself from losing my mind. And uh, let's 58 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: pass it to Let's pass it to perhaps the third 59 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: and most mysterious bunker. Uh not. You look like you 60 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: are in an episode of one of our favorite shows, 61 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: The X Files. You've got this amazingly this this like 62 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: dramatic lighting and just on what is your left side 63 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: is just a little bit of light. Yeah, I've got 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: a window open and I've turned off all electrical devices 65 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: I possibly can, because in testing my mic out here, 66 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: I noticed that there's electrical interference all over this room. 67 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a power line situation, if 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: it's just the electrical in my house. And I've never 69 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: really attempted to use one of these mics here before, 70 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: but it sounds awful. Oh wait a second, wait a second. Match, 71 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: So you're are you using one of those condenser mics 72 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: the U S B mix it is? It is a 73 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: USB mike, yes, but it looks like an SM just 74 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, a standard handheld mike. But it is another 75 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: another part of this image of you is you've got 76 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: one of those pop filters. So when your face is 77 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: behind that, it's like there's this giant black screen completely 78 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: blotting out your face. It looks like a character from 79 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: Sin City or something. It's it's quite remarkable and an eerie. Yeah. 80 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: When one extra thing is I always turn my head 81 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: when I breathe because I'm a professional, you know, um 82 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: shout out to Tay. All right, let's uh, let's do 83 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: this you guys. Let's by the way, we we need 84 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: to just again, Ben you already kind of talk to 85 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: everybody already, but just to know that it is genuine 86 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 1: and coming from our hearts. We we really are thinking 87 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: about each and every one of you, specifically you listening 88 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: to this right now, and what you're going through, what 89 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: what you're having to do to stay safe and protect 90 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: everybody else. Sometimes right now feels uh scary. I would say, 91 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of anxiety that comes along with 92 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: our situation that we all find ourselves in. But um, 93 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: just know that by taking the precautions you're taking, you're 94 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: you're not only protecting yourself and the people you love, 95 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: but but everybody. So just keep going strong. Well said, 96 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: Well said. And we want to hear from you folks. 97 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: So we've given you a brief update on our our 98 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: bunker situations. So we'd love to hear updates from your 99 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: neck of the global woods. If you want to send 100 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: us a photo of your current battle station, if you 101 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: want to give us your observations, reach out, feel free 102 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: to We're on Twitter, We're on Facebook, or on Instagram, 103 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: all that jazz. As we've said, uh, we're we're all 104 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: in the midst of this, this pandemic occurring. Together. We 105 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: have more coming regarding the current crisis, the conspiracies and 106 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: the consequences involved. And today we thought, since so many 107 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: people are suffering from COVID nineteen news fatigue, that we 108 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: might collectively enjoy a dive into something largely unrelated. KIM trails. 109 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: Are they real? Oh buddy, here are the facts? Okay, 110 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: First off, we need to differentiade between some pretty often 111 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: conflated UH concepts phenomena. While KIM trails are pretty controversial 112 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: and often the subject of tons of conspiracy theories, contrails 113 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: are a distinct different and actual facts, proven things. So 114 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: what is a contrail? Um? It all comes down to jets. 115 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: Jet engines you out super super hot air and because 116 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: water vapor is also one of the byproducts of the exhaust, 117 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: the air is also incredibly humid. Where these jets fly, 118 00:06:53,920 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: the air is typically cold, often below negative forty degrees fahrenheit. Additionally, uh, 119 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: the atmosphere at that altitude has very low vapor pressure 120 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: UM or the force that's exerted by a gas on 121 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: its surrounding environment. Yeah, that's right. And when this jet 122 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: engine is emitting this hot, humid air into that atmosphere 123 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: you describe nold that's so cold and has low vapor pressure, 124 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: it results in condensation, and the water vapor coming out 125 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: of the engine very quickly condenses into water droplets, and 126 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: then it very quickly crystallizes into ice. Those are what 127 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: we see forming behind a jet engine. Those are the contrails, 128 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: and that stands for of course, it's it's short for 129 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: rather condensation trails. We have a we have a pretty 130 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: good example of like how how you can witness this 131 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: phenomenon for yourself. Yeah, it's pretty simple. If you've ever 132 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: been outside before when it's very cold, or maybe inside, 133 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: and you breathe out slowly, you know, more of a 134 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: than a pushing air quickly out of your mouth. Um, 135 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: that puff of air dissipates really quickly when it's dry, 136 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: even if it is very very cold. But um, you know, 137 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: if you do that on a day that's a little 138 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: more human, it might stick around quite a bit longer. 139 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: And it's the same with contrails. When the atmosphere is 140 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,559 Speaker 1: more humid. The contrails, just like your breath, we're gonna 141 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna linger out there in the atmosphere for a 142 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: longer time before they dissipate. But again, when you've got 143 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: a drier atmosphere, they are going to just kind of 144 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: um just go away a lot faster. And you've probably 145 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: witnessed this before. You've probably seen a couple of different 146 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: kinds of contrails or streaks across the sky that maybe 147 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: you think is a contrail or a chem trail, but 148 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: you're not really sure. But you've probably witnessed them dissipate 149 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 1: extremely quickly behind a jet engine or you know, an 150 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: airplane and aircraft, and you've also probably seen them linger 151 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: for a long time. If it feels like ours, just 152 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: just remember that you have seen this before, right, you've 153 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: seen it before. But many of your friends may have 154 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: assured you already that you have sometimes seen contrails and 155 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: sometimes seen something else, something called a chem trail. According 156 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: to its proponents, a chem trail is something much more 157 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: insidious because while a contrail is understood to be more 158 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: or less benign, according to these theories, a chem trail 159 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: is purposely designed and dispersed to expose large swaths of 160 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: unknowing people to any variety of chemicals. So here's the idea, basically, UH, 161 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: these can theory these chemicals might be intended to create 162 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: some sort of widespread physical change to populations UM, animals, 163 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: the environment, or plants, or create some kind of wide 164 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: read psychological phenomenon changes in human beings for example. A 165 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: lot of conspiracy theorists um to to use the term 166 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: of abuse I guess here, often get hung up on 167 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: this notion based on super anecdote evidence that UH epidemics 168 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: of blue like symptoms, for example, can be connected to 169 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: instances of chem trails, or, in an incredibly extreme version, 170 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: the idea is that chem trails could be used as 171 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: a form of population control, um weaving out the sick 172 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: and elderly. So um, this is all some pretty extreme stuff. 173 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: Let's let's go into a quick history of this before 174 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: we get to been out of shape here, right. So, 175 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 1: if you were, let's say, in the nineteen seventies or 176 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, trying to learn about the idea of chem trails, 177 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have found the term. It's fairly recent. These 178 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: theories first came into the mainstream world in the nineteen 179 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: nineties under under Art Bell's work at Coast to Coast 180 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: AM and they blew up in the mainstream. First on 181 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: the fringe, but then in the mainstream. They're actually mentioned 182 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: in congress. US House Bill HR seven banned various types 183 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: of weapons in space, but it also originally started out 184 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: with a reference to Kim trails. Ultimately this reference was removed. 185 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: But you know, people who believe in Kim trails will 186 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: say this thing in congressional record is indicative of it 187 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: being a real problem that was on October two, two 188 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: thousand one. But the mention specifically alludes to it not existing, right. Uh, 189 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: the mention says, uh. The mention when it was introduced 190 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: by Dennis Kucinich, did seem to like, did imply that 191 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: there is potential for some kind of weapon that would 192 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: be called a Kim trail. But they removed it because 193 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: there's no scientific proof about this, I see. I think 194 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm confusing this with the group of Harvard engineers that 195 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: David Keith was leading, um who was the professor of 196 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: applied physics at Harvard's John A. Paulson's School of Engineering, 197 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: and there was a quote from him that that says this, 198 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: we have not seen any credible evidence that Kim trails exist. 199 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: If we did, uh see any evidence that governments were 200 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: endangering their own citizens in that manner a llegend kim 201 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: truck conspiracies, we would be eager to expose and stop 202 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: such activities. Yeah, um, although we didn't do that when 203 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: we were using essentially kim trails as a weapon of 204 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: war during you know, the Vietnam War or in other 205 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: conflicts where we were actually sprying things in the air 206 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: to kill you know, both plants and to potentially harm 207 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: enemy combatants. So I mean not not not even to 208 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: mention things like weaponizing insects. And this is a crazy one, 209 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: but there was that whole experiment where the U. S. 210 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: Government dropped uh flea bombs on poor parts of I 211 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: believe it was Louisiana and Florida, ben isn't that right? Yeah, 212 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: that's correct. But but just specifically, I mean, I'm not 213 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to discount or play that down. Well, 214 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: it's just specifically using aircraft to spray noxious chemicals over 215 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: a population or an area um as a weapon of war. 216 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: And I only mentioned the fleet thing because it was 217 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: specifically to spread biological agents to like you know, diminish 218 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: people and give them like you know, malaria and stuff 219 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: or potentially, you know, use it as as as an 220 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: agent of war as well. Sure, And really what we're 221 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: setting up here is the difference between the the intense 222 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: theories that are out there, right, and then what established 223 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: science says about camera trail specifically spraying at these higher altitudes, 224 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: right right. That's that's why, that's why David Keith's quote 225 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: is what am I go to answers when people ask 226 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: what the scoop is regarding the misinformation, the disinformation, the allegations, 227 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: and of course the facts, because that statement seems pretty conclusive, 228 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: and Keith and his team of engineers are not some 229 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: kind of rogue renegades from the ivory towers of the Academy. 230 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: What they're stating is the status quo establishment conclusion. And 231 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: while this may seem comforting, the truth, it turns out, 232 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: isn't as cut and dried. Will tell you the truth 233 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: warts and all. After a word from our sponsor. Here's 234 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: where it gets crazy. This actually happened. Tim Trails actually happened, 235 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: and not just not just the dispersal that you had 236 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, Matt in Times of War or famously over St. Louis. 237 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: Here in the US. We know for a fact that 238 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: the United Kingdom did conspire to secretly experiment on their population, 239 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: not just their service members, but on their civilian population 240 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: through the deployment of what could be reasonably described as 241 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: chem trails. Yes, so here's the basics. Starting in the 242 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: British government used the unsuspecting domestic public as actual facts 243 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: guinea pigs for biological and chemical warfare experiments. UH and 244 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: more than seven hundred and fifty secret ops, hundreds of 245 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: thousands of people were subjected to what they called mock 246 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: biological and chemical warfax fair attacks from aircraft, ships, and 247 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: road vehicles. And this went on until nineteen seventy nine. Yeah, yeah, 248 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: And don't be fooled by that idea of mock biological 249 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: and chemical warfare attacks. These weren't all dry runs, these 250 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: weren't all war games. In fact, many of these tests 251 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: involved releasing potentially dangerous chemicals and micro organisms over huge 252 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: amounts of the population without the public ever being told. 253 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: And think about think about that span of time there, 254 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: that's almost forty years ninety to nineteen seventy nine. These 255 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: were designed by the Ministry of Defense to UH to 256 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: assess what would happen to the UK if Russian forces 257 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: released you know, clouds of a biological or chemical weapon 258 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: across the country. But here's the deal. In most of 259 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: the cases throughout this long period of time, the trials 260 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: didn't use biological weapons, but some kind of alternative that 261 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: the scientists thought would maybe mimic germ warfare in some way. 262 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: And the Ministry of Defense claimed, you know, these substances 263 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: that they were using were actually going to be harmless. However, 264 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: and it's a big however here there are certain areas 265 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: around the uk UH where the families there would have children, 266 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: and these children would have birth defects, and those families 267 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: in particular are demanding a very specific and public inquiry 268 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: into the substances that were used during these tests and 269 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: really just to get as much public information as possible 270 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: about them. Yeah, and they met with no shortage of 271 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: red tape, something that you could arguably describe as stonewalling. 272 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: So the the outcry that hit in would say two 273 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: thousand to two thousand four came about partially because of 274 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: something called Operation Antler. Operation Antler was the official investigation 275 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: into the activities that we're sighting. From forty to seventy nine, 276 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: they were headquartered or masterminded maybe is a better word. 277 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 1: From a place a lot of people in the U 278 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: S probably have never heard of. It's called Porton Down. 279 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: Porton Down is a science compound in Wiltshire, England. It's 280 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: called Porton Down because it's just northeast of Porton which 281 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: is a village near Salisbury. It's home to two British facilities, 282 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: the Ministry of Defenses Defense Science and Technology Laboratory and 283 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: a site of Public Health England. The d s t 284 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: L Defense Science and Technology Laboratory has been known as 285 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 1: one of the most secretive and controversial research facilities in 286 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: the British military for over a hundred years. So think of, um, 287 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: what's the place in Australia Pine flats? Pine gag? That's 288 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: it's like Pine Gap yep. And the inquiries that the 289 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: public and former service members have been raising established that 290 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: a number of the people participate aiding in the Service 291 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: Volunteer Program a KA where the soldiers can sign up 292 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: to be exposed. Uh. They claim that they were tricked 293 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: into taking part in these experiments. They had consent but 294 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: not informed consent, and then some of these retired service 295 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: members also claimed to have suffered long term illness or 296 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: injury in some cases, you know, similar to the well 297 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: in some ways similar to Vietnam veterans reporting of exposure 298 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: to agent orange. And then again, as you said, Matt, 299 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: long tail intergenerational effects like birth defects, and it doesn't 300 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: stop there. Yes, it's true. Researched by a gentleman named 301 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: Olf Schmidt, who's the professor of modern history at the 302 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: University of Kent, revealed that British military aircraft dropped thousands 303 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: of kilos of chemicals that possessed quote largely unknown toxic 304 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: potential on British civilian populations. Um in the Salisbury area 305 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: in Wiltshire, um Cartington in Bedfordshire and Norwich in Norfolk. 306 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: Around forty kilos of the chemical zinc cadmium sulfide, which 307 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: is now known to be or at least thought to 308 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: be pretty carson and genic potentially on account of its 309 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: containing cadmium um. And this was allegedly dispersed from ships, 310 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: aircraft and moving trucks or as they call them in 311 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: the UK loris between nineteen fifty three and nineteen sixty four. 312 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: And again we're looking to Old Schmidt here, who who 313 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: wrote a book called Secret Science and within this book 314 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: he also shows that commuters in the London underground were 315 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: subjected to very similar illegal experiments. And you know, just 316 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: before we continue on here, do you do you guys 317 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: remember or are you listening? Do you remember warnings about 318 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: tests within New York subway system where they were going 319 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: to do some testing with dispersed itse of some sort 320 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: um to see how chemicals or agents would move throughout 321 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: the transit system underground in New York. Do you guys 322 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: remember that? Oh? Yeah, I love that reasoning too. Let's 323 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: just see what happens. Well, yeah, well, the there's this 324 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: concept of attempting to experiment with in this case, just 325 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: the thing I'm talking about here, to see where a 326 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: contagion would travel if it got released in a specific 327 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: station underneath in terms of the air patterns, or where 328 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: it would be carried like through which tunnels and that 329 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: we where would go? Or well yeah, and and as 330 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: computers you know, are are subjected to it get onto 331 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: a train that get off somewhere, how quickly does it 332 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: spurs throughout the Manhattan Island or you know, how far 333 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: does it go? But this is the same kind of 334 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: thing here a little bit. But it's it's closer closer 335 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: to human experimentation in my in my opinion at least, 336 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: right right, right, So this is very important I want 337 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: to interject here. It is still human experimentation. The stuff 338 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: in New York, from what I can recall, was just 339 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: exactly what you said. It was a modeling exercise to 340 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: take an inner substance or material that would still behave 341 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: the same way as a weaponized aerosol and be trackable 342 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: so we could monitor the spread, which is actually a 343 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: pretty smart thing to do. But the ethical quandary there 344 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: is if you tell people you're doing that, no matter 345 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: how how transparent you are about how harmless it is, 346 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: people aren't going to ride public transit if they can 347 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: help it. Why would you expose yourself? And you know, 348 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: this is an understandable fear because, like like we referenced 349 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: with Professor Schmidt in his book Secret Science, the operations 350 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: on the London Underground involved the release of large quantity 351 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: is of a bacteria called Bacillus globeg or globe big 352 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: in The scientists wanted to say they wanted to determine 353 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: whether quote, long distance travel of aerosols in the tube 354 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: was due to transportation within the trains themselves, or whether 355 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: the big weak point was the air ventilations in the tube. 356 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: From what I recall, both were pretty bad. But this 357 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: isn't all that the UK did. We're gonna pause for 358 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: one more sponsor break and we'll be back to tell 359 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: you about how these experiments went global while they were 360 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: still classified and top secret. So we have returned. It's true, 361 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: conspiracy realists, these experiments did go global. The research also 362 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: reveals that these experiments occurred in another part of the world. 363 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: It was a British imperial possession at the time. This 364 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: was Nigeria. Chemical warfare trials were held there as well, 365 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: and we even found the specific area of Nigeria in 366 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: which they were held. A place called Abanna Goro in 367 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: southern Nigeria specifically was the site of four British Cold 368 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: War scientific missions that's spent a total around fifteen months 369 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: dispersing and assessing the effects of large quantities of experimental 370 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: nerve gas weapons. Um So this this location was important 371 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: because it permitted field trials to be carried out in 372 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: a tropical environment and of course that was not uh 373 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: in Britain or Australia. Right Importantly, and that means that 374 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: there was much less oversight and people were also much 375 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: less likely to be able to successfully inquire with the 376 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: government about the possible detrimental effects. And before we you know, 377 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: we kind of conclude here, there's there's another experimentation that 378 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: that calls back to just this concept of putting out 379 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: weird agents or clouds of terrifying things to test both 380 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: how the air is going to disperse them, um, you know, 381 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: in whatever else whatever other parameters are being tested. There. 382 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: There's an instance from nineteen fifty two where on the 383 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: on the west coast of Scotland there was a cloud 384 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: of bacteria, not just any bacteria, not like the ones 385 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: that were released into the London underground, literally plague bacteria, 386 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: cloud of it that was released to see essentially to 387 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: test again, like in all these instances, what happens to 388 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: this stuff when it just goes into the air, Where 389 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: does it go? What happens to it? Well, there was 390 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: a fishing fishing boat that happened to travel through this 391 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: cloud of freaking plague bacteria as a vessel full of fishermen. 392 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: They just went right through it and there was this horrible, 393 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: you know, feeling in the pits of the stomachs of 394 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: the people experimenting that. Oh wow, um, let's see, I 395 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: wonder if any of those guys are actually going to 396 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: get plague. Ben, I don't know if you read about 397 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: this one, but if it's just really really creepy to 398 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: think that, unknowingly you could drive your your boat, your 399 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: ship that has a bunch of just working class people 400 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: through a cloud that ends up being plague. Yeah. The 401 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: same reports confirmed that the government was dispersing anthrax like 402 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: not not an inert chemical, actual anthrax. Uh. And they 403 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: were doing this not just off the Scottish coast but 404 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: also all around the Caribbean. Uh. And that the that 405 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: that even in the highest halls of UK government there 406 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: was tacit approval. So people may have had plausible deniability, 407 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: but they knew what was going on and they let 408 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 1: it happen again for decades and decades and decades. And 409 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: just the one other quick thing here, it's noted in 410 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: both the Independent and I believe in the Guardian newspaper 411 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: that the Bahamas, this this the territory of the Bahamas, 412 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: was seen by a lot of the scientists performing these 413 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: kinds of tests as the absolute best place to carry 414 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: out these kinds of surface tests without any kind of restriction. 415 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: Just be aware of that. And it was there something 416 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: that was particularly appealing about these tropical climates. Yeah, a 417 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: couple of things. First, just the environment given given that 418 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: it had enough similarities geographically, if not climate wise, it 419 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: just had enough geographic similarities to the United Kingdom, which 420 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: again is you know, a collection of archipelagos. So this 421 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: is a good way to see how something, how land 422 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: mass with a with a huge coastline, could be affected 423 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: by maritime dispersal. That's why it's off the coast instead 424 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: of you know, on the on the land in those experiments, 425 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: And just to give a little bit of clarity there 426 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: about the Bahamas, it was this is a quote from 427 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: the Independent, It was an uninhabited island in the Bahamas. 428 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: In the sea near that uninhabited island, So it wasn't 429 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, necessarily directly on up the population of the 430 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: Bahamas where people are living. But it's still very close 431 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: and with all of the winds that that are happening 432 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: out there, you know, you can pretty much predict the weather. 433 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: Ben But how about it, what's the quote we always 434 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: like to use about the weather. The meteorologists are alchemists. No, well, 435 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: it's yeah, you're right though, especially in that case, they 436 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: were not working super hard to do their due diligence 437 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: about whether people would be endangered. Uh. The specific stuff 438 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: they deployed was venezuelan equine and cephalitis in that uninhabited 439 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: island in the Bahamas. This kills donkeys and horses, but 440 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 1: it can also kill human beings and it can be 441 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: spread by mosquitoes when they bite the horses or the donkeys. 442 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: This is an addition to by the way G series 443 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: nerve agents that was deployed in Nigeria that that can 444 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: do things like um cause loss of certain bodily functions. Uh. 445 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: If you survive, you'll have long term neurological damage, psychiatric disorders. 446 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: And then of course we've mentioned the Bacterium basilis globe 447 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: bidgy globe by G. I'm not entirely certain on that. Uh, 448 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: that can also cause fevers occasionally fatal. This is heavy 449 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: duty stuff. This was not you know, we can't emphasize 450 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: this enough. This This was not just like silly string 451 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: they were spraying around or fabreeze or something. Uh, neither 452 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: of which are sponsoring the show. This was these were 453 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: weapons of murder potentially, And you can say that this 454 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: was a scenario to figure out how how it would 455 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: spread during an attack from an antagonistic force, But the 456 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: reality of the matter is it was not a dry run. 457 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: The idea that we're doing this for quote unquote defense 458 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: falls far short of justifying what actually happened. So this 459 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: all means that, yeah, in a way, kim trails were 460 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: very very real. At least if I kim trails, we 461 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: mean the concept of illegal and dangerous aerossol dispersals. Well, 462 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: you certainly don't need a weather man to know which 463 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: way the Eastern Equine and cephalitis blows. It's well, that's 464 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: that's whichever way the wind wind blows. I guess, um 465 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: that's that's upsetting though, Um, but yeah, I guess I 466 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 1: guess we can put that one to bed. I mean, 467 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, like when when we talk about chem trails, though, 468 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: I think the the the big picture thinking behind them 469 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: as a conspiracy is largely still kind of you know, 470 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: the jury is out. If not, it feels entirely debunked. 471 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: This is a very specific instance where it's something that 472 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: we could absolutely classify as a chemical dispersement at high altitude. 473 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: But what we think of as being chem trails as 474 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: like the kind of holy grail of conspiracy theory circles. 475 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: I think we're all still in agreement, is uh is 476 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: a bit spurious? Yes, right, So when when people say, uh, 477 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: chem trail, you know, like you said, no, they're thinking 478 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: big picture, often about what looks like a con trail. However, 479 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: this this out, this high altitude disbursement did occur. We 480 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: know it occurred multiple times. We mentioned seven fifty times. 481 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: But the full extent of the test in these programs 482 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: exceeded went into the thousands, isn't that right, Matt? Well, yeah, 483 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: at least according to the latest um the latest numbers 484 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: from professor Schmidt's research that we mentioned earlier. UM. The 485 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: investigation or his investigation as of I believe was that 486 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: when this was uh, yeah July, when this article in 487 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: the Independent was written, he is believing that up to 488 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: thirty thousand secret chemical warfare substance experiments were carried out, 489 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: and most of that was occurring at the facility or 490 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: the area we're referring to called Porton Down where there 491 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: are British soldiers being experimented on specifically right, So that 492 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: seven hundred fifty number is the uh is the piece 493 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: of the pie that applies to the public so far 494 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: as we know. Yeah, and this this means that like 495 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: so many of the modern conspiracy theories in in this 496 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: our new age of folklore, there is a grain of 497 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: truth here. There is there is a seed of fact 498 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: in this, or a spray of fact if we want 499 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: to be real jerks about our language. Uh. This is 500 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: only one example of government doing this. Of course, as 501 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: we've mentioned, the United States has done multiple experiments like this. 502 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: We haven't dived into it yet, but we haven't dove 503 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: into it yet. But I would be incredibly surprised if 504 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: the u SSR or the FSRS is called now was 505 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: not doing the same thing at some point. At this 506 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: point here in members of the UK public, including retired 507 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: members from military service, are still pushing for further investigation. 508 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: In a way, again, it's similar to you know, Agent 509 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: Orange allegations. But what what do you all think? I mean, 510 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: this has proven this actually happened. Is this the whole 511 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: dirty story now finally revealed? Or is there more to it? 512 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: In other words, is this the tip of a biological 513 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: warfare Iceberg. It's a really tough thing too to wrap 514 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: your head around knowing that in a way, wherever you live, 515 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: your government may see to it that there are experiments 516 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: either on you or you know, your friends, your family, 517 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: your neighbors, somewhere within you know, a short drive of 518 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: where you live, there could be experimentation occurring on the people, um, 519 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: the moms and dads and sons and daughters and all 520 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: of that. I it's a really tough thing to know that, 521 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: and it's what we're talking about today. It's cold war time. 522 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: Most of this occurred, correct me if I'm wrong here, Ben, 523 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: But during cold war times where there are whether how 524 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: no matter how warm they are, there are threats. They're 525 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: outside threats, and these you know, governments are attempting to 526 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: stay abreast of situations, stay ahead of technologies, and germ 527 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: warfare is one of those things. And many times that 528 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 1: is to make sure we know what's going to happen 529 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: if we When I say we, I mean if our 530 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: population gets hit by this type of germ warfare, what's 531 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: it gonna look like? How could we respond to it? Um? 532 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: And maybe that's giving a little more of a benefit 533 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: of the doubt to the situation. I don't know. The 534 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: one thing I would want to add here at the 535 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: end is to caution yourself when thinking about this kind 536 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: of stuff and then perhaps applying it to our current 537 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: situation with UM, with the novel coronavirus, and and with 538 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. I can't sit here and tell you that 539 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: there isn't some other reason behind the release of this, 540 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: but also would say it's very unlikely that it's any 541 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: kind of attack, right, It really likely, But I think 542 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: viscerally we can understand the threat and the feeling associated 543 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: with like what it would be like to be a 544 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: victim of someone knowingly doing something like what we're experiencing 545 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: right now, right, I mean, I think like psychologically that 546 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: is something that is very unsettling thinking about, you know what, 547 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: what it would take for someone to have that little 548 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: disregard for human you know, life and human sanity to 549 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 1: do something like that, knowing how isolated and scared everyone 550 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: is right now with this current situation. I that's I think, 551 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: that's that's that's what that's where my mind goes. Not 552 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: that our situation right now is in some way some 553 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: version of this, It's more just the psychological you know, 554 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: uh fallout of dealing with a situation like this. I 555 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: mean tip to agree. I think that's that's an important point. 556 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: But we would be remiss if we didn't, if we 557 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: didn't hit that point, and if we didn't also note, uh, 558 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: we're going to have some more updates on COVID nineteen coming. 559 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: A lot of people on Twitter and various platforms have 560 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: asked to hear a bug out bag specific episode. I 561 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: would recommend, um, we we're gonna do one specifically on 562 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: bug out bags and how to get out of areas 563 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: if you need to, and you don't need to yet. 564 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, please stay indoors, as they 565 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: say on Mitchell and web. But but we have to 566 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: point out we have to point out this the idea 567 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: that COVID nineteen could have been manufactured. It's been floated 568 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: by a bunch of different different um entities and institutions, 569 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: including members of the Chinese UH, the Chinese government, but 570 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: these still remain conspiracy theory. Ease. It's similar to the 571 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: idea that HIV was purposely created to, you know, uh, 572 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: to weed out some specific part of the global population. 573 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: These would be terrible weapons to choose for that. I 574 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: think we said this in our earlier COVID episode because 575 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: although it spreads quickly, it wouldn't. It doesn't behave the 576 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: way that a bio weapon ideally would behave. And if 577 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: you wanted to make one, which we'll talk about at 578 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: length in another episode, if you wanted to make one, uh, 579 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: and you actually tried, you would do a much better 580 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: job than COVID nineteen. Uh. This is still dangerous, but 581 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: it being dangerous. I think the scariest part of it 582 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: is that it had a natural origin. It did not 583 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: take human intervention to make it as much of a 584 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: threat as it is today. And and to the point 585 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: about misinformation, please please please, when you're out there on 586 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: the internets, when your relatives are sending you post from 587 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: someone they heard from Facebook or something, please politely ask 588 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: for a source. Because misinformation and panic are as contagious 589 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 1: as a pandemic. They're a pandemic all their own. There's 590 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with asking people for that kind of source 591 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: if they say something that you know feels weird because 592 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: you know Matt Noll, You guys have noticed it seems 593 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: like everybody's got a cousin who somehow works at the 594 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: Pentagon nowadays, right sure feels that way. And you know, 595 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: I would say even when it comes to positive news, 596 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, because nothing is worse than false hope. And 597 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: there might be some people that would disagree with me, 598 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: but it feels like the way the UH not to 599 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: get too political, but the way the administration is handing 600 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: with right now, it's a little off in that there 601 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 1: are some claims being thrown around that don't have sources 602 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: to back them up, or that have kind of anecdotal sources, 603 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: like in terms of like a miracle drug that will 604 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: like cure this thing. And I think a lot of 605 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: folks that get their news from certain locations and from 606 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: these press conferences UH will be largely disappointed and when 607 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: when they find out that this is not, in fact 608 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: what it was set out to be. And the the 609 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: idea of availability of masks and availability of relief and 610 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: ships that are coming to people's rescue in New York 611 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: and California, we've yet to see those things come to fruition. 612 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: And then there's a lot of overpromising and under delivering. 613 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: And I would caution people to you know, temper expectations 614 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 1: in that respect too. I mean, don't you know, I 615 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: feel hopeless. But let's just be realistic. I'm gonna make 616 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: a light comment here really quickly, and I promise everybody 617 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap up. Noel, as you were talking, I 618 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: don't know if you noticed, but which cat is that? Ben? 619 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: That is Dr Vankman. Dr Vankman in the background has 620 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: been quietly giving these cute little meaws, and Ben, wearing 621 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: his lucid Or mask, has been trying to get Dr 622 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: Vankman to to be quiet. And the image Ben is 623 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: one of the cutest, funniest, weirdest things that I've experienced 624 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 1: in a while. And I just want to thank you 625 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: for lightning my day light my day a little bit. 626 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: And while Noel was like, while Noel was talking about 627 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: all the crazy misinformation that we're kind of waiting through 628 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: at this point, yeah, I appreciate that. I guess I 629 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: won't put them in the cat goolog just yet. Uh, 630 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: but you know, it's always weird when you start working 631 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: with a new producer, right to to to that point though, 632 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: about the danger of this positive stuff, this false hope 633 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: it's true, you know, as there there have been US 634 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: government officials who have said, I believe it was US 635 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: government who have said kakamami things like just put air 636 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: from a blue dryer up your nose and you'll be fine. 637 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: And there are people selling, you know, flim flam and 638 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: woo woo kind of cures. If something sounds too good 639 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: to be true, you know fortunate. The fortunate fact of 640 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: the world in which we live is that it's because 641 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: it is untrue. So well said, UH. We also want 642 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: to know what you think, folks. Thank you so much 643 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: for tuning in. We hope you are happy. We hope 644 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 1: you're healthy, We hope you are safe. Just as importantly, 645 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: we hope that you are exercising critical thinking in these times. 646 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: We want to hear from you, as we always say, 647 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: you are the most important part of this show. So 648 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: you can find us on Facebook. You can find us 649 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: on Instagram, you can find us on Twitter. We like 650 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: to recommend Here's where it gets crazy on our is 651 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: our Facebook community page. We want to know what you're 652 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: going through. We want to know what your thoughts are, 653 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: and we also want to know if you have any 654 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: other stories of UH illicit biological warfare testing that you 655 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: feel your fellow listeners should UH should know about. So 656 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: so please let us know and if you hate the 657 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: social media. As we always say, we have a couple 658 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: of other ways for you to get in contact with 659 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: us immediately. You can always call our number. It is 660 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: one eight three three st d w y t K. 661 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: You can call us and leave a message, just like 662 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: this person did at one twenty two pm on the 663 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: day we recorded this U and here we go. Hey guys, UM, 664 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: I love the show. I want to say thank you. 665 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm calling I just got done. But listening to the 666 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: here do we have enough for everyone podcast? UM? And 667 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,479 Speaker 1: you know talking about the coronavirus and they just wanted 668 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: to have that. Uh. My significant other, she is a 669 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: registered nurse, UM who have outside of uh C Milwaukee. 670 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: That's about all in creation. I wanna you know what 671 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: you guys know. But anyway, she has been responsible for 672 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: taking care of one of the three patients that is 673 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: infected with the coronavirus. Some specifics about him. He's uh, 674 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: mid thirties, Uh not you know, compromised, very healthy, UM, 675 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: and he was infected and uh he is now in 676 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: critical conditions. UM. I just I just wanted to say that, 677 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, all these pennials are not to worry about 678 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: the SPERRYO that they're invincible and stuff like that. Uh, 679 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: you know this this gentleman is you know, may or 680 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,879 Speaker 1: may not lose his life. So maybe I'll help people 681 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: take it a little more seriously. Anyways, today thanks gaining 682 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: guys and the court here and that show. It's it's 683 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: unfortunately a common tale that's happening in the United States 684 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: more and more often in the past few weeks and days, 685 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,839 Speaker 1: people who uh would seem to be otherwise healthy, would 686 00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: seem even to be outside of the target demographic for 687 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 1: for COVID cases requiring hospitalization are falling one after another 688 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: into hospitals. Just a few days before we recorded this. 689 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: In fact, a twelve year old child here in uh 690 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: here in Atlanta, Georgia was hospitalized with what was originally 691 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,720 Speaker 1: diagnosed as pneumonia and then later realized to be COVID nineteen. 692 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: So this is affecting everybody. To to your point, caller, 693 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: this is also affecting millennials as well. Just because you 694 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: are say twenty five years old or or under sixty 695 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: three or something, it does not make you immune and 696 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: it does not mean that you should be playing around. 697 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 1: Is that about the size of it. It's it's one 698 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: of these things too, where I mean, the story just 699 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: keeps evolving where you know, one man and it's like, oh, 700 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: don't take ibuprofen, and then it's like ibuprofen is fine, 701 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: and one minute it's like, you know, people with that 702 00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: are symptom less are worst vectors. They are apparently carry 703 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: a higher viral load, is one thing that I saw reported. 704 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: So that's the reason it's so scary right now is 705 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 1: because people don't know who has it and who doesn't 706 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: have a gause. They're enough tests and potentially folks that 707 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 1: are asymptomatic are are like, you know, acting as super 708 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 1: spreaders because they think they're all hunky dory. So it's 709 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: just the kind of story that just keeps evolving and uh, 710 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: without becoming a paranoid you know, news freak. I think 711 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: it's important that we keep an eye on it and 712 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: just do our part and do not play around and 713 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: stay stay home. Agreed one million percent. Actually, if we're 714 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: gonna violate the rules of math there, we are also 715 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 1: just like you individuals, so you can you can find 716 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: us on the internet outside of our show. This is 717 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: one This is the first pandemic in our hyper connected age. 718 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: So we are like many people, using social media and 719 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 1: online tools to stay connected even when we can't physic 720 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 1: be together. So with that in mind, if you want 721 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 1: to find us as individuals, there are a couple of 722 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: ways to do so. You can check me out exclusively 723 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: on Instagram where I am at how now Noel Brown, Um, 724 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: I have a cat to a tale lists cat named Fernando, 725 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: who isn't quite as fluffy and cute as as Ben's cats, 726 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 1: but um really has his moments and you might see 727 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: him pop up on my all my stories from time 728 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: to time, and and maybe some of the weird ambient 729 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,919 Speaker 1: music that I'm making to pass the time. A great 730 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: Fernando's great, a k A. Robert He's he's a cat 731 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: with moxy. That's right, That's right. Uh. And you can 732 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: hear the dogs barking in my neighbor's yard on my 733 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 1: storyless Instagram account. Matt Something Underscore, Frederick, I heart something. 734 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 1: I don't remember what it is. I love this part 735 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: of your character that just doesn't give a crap about 736 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: social media. It's really charming. I'm not joking. I I 737 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 1: way that that about you. Well, you just won't find 738 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: anything because I don't do anything but I'm there, so 739 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 1: you know, if if an emergency happens, and maybe I'll 740 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,919 Speaker 1: publish something and you'll know about a social media emergency. Yeah, yeah, 741 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: we all waiting. Speaking of which, acronyms that begin with 742 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: ascent are three letters long. Can you believe that Saturday 743 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: Night Live is gone dark for like the first time 744 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: maybe ever? I can. Yeah, it's the right thing. It 745 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: is the right thing to do. But that was when 746 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: I was really like, Okay, this is real. All the 747 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 1: late shows, all the late shows as well. I believe 748 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert has recorded some monologues from his house. Ira 749 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,959 Speaker 1: Glass is just like us. He's recording from his house. 750 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: We're we're aiming collectively to keep making these podcasts as 751 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: long as we can, and we hope that it uh. 752 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 1: We hope that it gives you, you know, some something 753 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: to connect with, something to hear uh, and we hope 754 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: that you communicate with us. We aim to keep going 755 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 1: until the proverbial or literal lights go out. If you 756 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 1: want to find me on the internet, you can uh 757 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: find me at Instagram at Ben Bolan. And a burse 758 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: to creativity is always say if you want to share 759 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,760 Speaker 1: news or ask about the veracity of various things related 760 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 1: to the pandemic. You can always find me on Twitter 761 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: at Ben Bolan HSUF. You've been fielding a lot of 762 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: great questions there and some pretty off the wall ones. 763 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: But just to reiterate everything Matt and Will have said, Uh, 764 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 1: this is serious. We are here, uh, and we are 765 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: we are working ardently. You can't you know, you can't 766 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,399 Speaker 1: hear Paul on this podcast, but he's tuned in as well, 767 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: So we're hoping to be here for you. And the 768 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 1: best place to find information is always at this point, 769 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: the CDC, the w h o UM and an organization 770 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: like that that's trying to keep tabs on as many 771 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: people as possible and really find a vaccine as quickly 772 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: as possible. So just keep your eyes open and your 773 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: ears to the ground, and we'll be here just like you. 774 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: And if none of those means of contacting us quite 775 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 1: quarantine your badgers, that never fear. We have one solid 776 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: way that you can reach out to us all the time, anytime. Seven. 777 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: That's right, our good old fashioned email address. We are 778 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: Conspiracy at iHeart radio dot com. Stuff they don't want 779 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 1: you to know is a production of I Heart Radio. 780 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: For more podcasts, from my heart Radio, visit the I 781 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to 782 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:55,240 Speaker 1: your favorite shows.