WEBVTT - Conversations About Crippin 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.800 Watch up and welcome back to another episode and no 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.680 sellers podcast with your host. And I funk that with 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:14.200 your low glasses, Malone. I don't believe there's no way 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:19.239 possible pluck let's ten homies deal with me? Oh, no 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:24.360 matter what the issue is, moon shady tone for mean man, 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:28.000 it's no way I believe that. I don't think it 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.080 would take ten of us to DP. Mike Tyson, see 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:33.040 me at best five of us. That's the end of 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:43.560 the DP. Mike Tyson, what's the deal? Tell me? Sir? Yeah, 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:46.040 your room? So yeah, once you get the egg crate 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.159 down to help your room and the bounce back. But 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:49.959 I thought you weren't doing the show that I had 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.199 my hand on the doorknob to go to lows. I'm 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:54.440 with the target earlier and they don't sell those tastes. 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:57.520 I was gonna get that, you know, divider deals and 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:02.680 wrap it and then put the crate on that. Yeah, 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.800 didn't have room. So what you know about cripp and pete? 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:14.960 And was like a vague question, right, what honestly do 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:20.520 you feel you know about cripping? And what I mean? 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:25.759 Like am I saying what context? I mean to as 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:29.160 time sensitive as possible with the answer, Well, just just 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.640 run down the things you feel you know about cripping 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:39.480 at this point in time now over the years, because 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:41.280 that kind of has changed. Like the first time I 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.840 really was around cripts a lot was in Phoenix. Obviously, 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.480 like they got some they got some serious cript guys down. 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:52.640 They ain't playing, they do. But it's a lot different culture. Sure, 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:58.080 it's it's it's is cripping mixed with you know, Arizona culture. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.920 So then Arizona has its own culture and then they 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.320 mix it. But that's every every state in the country. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.960 You know, they take their city city, you know what 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.200 I mean. So you'll see it's kind of like they're 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:12.160 happened to be gangs and they happen to be called 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.880 the Cripts there. It's how kind of more describe it? Well, 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.000 it's more that's maybe I would say, like like if 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:23.399 you were in Memphis like that, then you think they're 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.560 all crips, Like that's the thing. It's just again their 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:30.200 culture from where they're from tied into crippen. So what 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:34.040 exactly I mean obviously you know crips right, um they 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:39.400 wear blue right or crips say cause yeah, the spellings 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:41.880 the bank to the left side, all the stuff, the 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.160 blue and everything like that. The I know that in 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.160 l A. You know, you kind of at least on 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:51.079 the west side generally you got your neighborhoods and your gangsters, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:56.160 and you know, in theory you would assume that crypts 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.679 are gonna bang his bloods all the time, but that 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:03.000 it's not really how how it plays the album. Reality 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:06.840 in real life much more practical. Um. Other than that, 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:08.600 I would have saw him was just kind of like, hey, look, 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:11.880 you made a decision to be a part of this. 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:15.679 You in it now, You're gonna be in it here, 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.799 You're gonna probably getting locked up, and it's gonna help 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.200 you out when you're there. It's gonna help you out 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.880 when you're here. Don't funk around. It's kind of like 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:26.959 a maybe a Leslie Rigid Mafia or the way that 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.239 Mafia turned out to be. Probably by the time the 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.360 probably in a real time, by the time the Mafia 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.320 got into the eighties, when cript really got started, they 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.720 were probably both about fairly similar. You had duels that 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.440 were rapping in the mafia, guys who're snitching and cripping 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.320 and you know whatever else, and people about to switch families. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.520 I know what's his name, switched families, Sam in the Bowl. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:53.800 I think it was so so Cripps started in sixty 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:59.400 nine mm right, um, it's created it to two brothers 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:05.640 create product, and the most famous and credited brother is 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.000 Raymond Washington. So they grew up in what area would 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:13.000 be considered East Coast, like seventy six wise Worth, okay Um. 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.480 They expanded to the West Side in seventy one, seventy two, 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.760 seventy one, So that's how Tooky and all of the 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.800 rest of the West Side cribs got involved. So that 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:29.400 became spreading right. Um, when it did it? Like when 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.880 it started? Was it just where the crips? And when 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.599 did it become like East Coast crips or Broadways or 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.560 her or main streets whoever it's like right over there. 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.600 When did it start becoming like franchise so to speak? 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:45.640 Seventy seventy three people started kind of breaking off doing 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:48.520 their own little thing. Yet it wasn't as bad, but 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.200 they started breaking off. I think it's seventy to seventy 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.640 three because remember you have East Side cribs, right, and 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.440 then you have West Side crips. So immediately that's the 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.880 first break, and then Inglewood Crips and into play, and 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:05.040 then Compton Crips came into play, so it was always 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:10.440 Linwood Crips, you know, the pomberos Um, so it kind 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:16.279 of already was separated, I mean, and then they start 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:20.280 breaking down into even smaller factions obviously, which is how 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:28.240 you got a trays different gangs. So in the seventies, 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:33.200 like now, the last many years, as long as I've 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.000 been able to you know, really be like in l 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.240 A l A, like that's over a decade and a half. 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:42.960 Probably there's a palpable difference between the east Side and 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:47.040 the West Side just being there. So economics that it's 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:51.440 mostly stemming from economics, for sure, and also I think 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:56.800 economics doesn't affect that is affected by economics. But like 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:03.360 some of those areas were actually physically constructed in different decades. Sure, yeah, yeah, 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:10.159 as far as uh not really oh yeah yeah yeah 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.560 yeah yeah, but I don't think that was havhing to 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.880 do with They were both all constructed, both east Side 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.560 and West Side. As far as where gangs, we were 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:24.920 constructive before crips became a thing, for sure, but by 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:29.560 sixty nine yeah, okay, but by the time that like 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:37.520 Second in seventy one, per se wasn't as dramatic of 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:42.520 a landscape change like or difference rather culturally as it 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.760 is now. It's it got magnified or is it about 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:50.240 always been the same? This has always been the same. 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.640 The East Side is just you know, it's just different. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.760 The poverty is different. You know what we were allowed. 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:03.320 It was kind of for us to be there earlier. Yeah, 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.159 you know what I mean, Like, um, the projects wasn't 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.320 made for black people. Black people just got into the 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.560 projects obviously. You know the history because there's some interesting 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.880 stories about that, like like the story of Dogtown projects, 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:23.280 how there's so many black people rushed into the projects initially, 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:30.960 uh in South at the pubbles Down and Dogtown. It 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.760 was kind of the first one that wasn't deep deep, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.880 like we were the pink projects away up there that 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:40.360 they just tore down mm hmm. And they actually the 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.640 city actually said we're not gonna allow black people in 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:47.200 these projects. It's just like which was to me, it 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:52.320 was like it's wild. Yeah, but again it's just before 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:56.240 the civil Rights law was passed and and also projects 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:59.480 were built. Housing projects were built based around military and 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.720 and as a housing place for military and ship like that. 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:06.080 But we're kind of getting lost. The reason I was 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:11.080 asking is right now, on the internet, there's this guy. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:15.560 He's like a cultural sensation. His name is c Mac 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:20.240 crip mac um baby c Max, So that means he's 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:24.080 the third c Mac of those guys. Right, So you 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.720 have big little, So big is the is the first, 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:32.560 Little is the second, Baby is the third tiny, So 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:37.360 if it's a tiny c Mac, that's the fourth is 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.960 the fifth c Mac, which would be the fifth version 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.160 of whoever that name is. And they call the sixth one. 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.520 Some people call him Embryo and some people say six. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.200 So it's a guy named Hoover. He calls himself Jack 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:52.560 six because he's the sixth version of Jack. Right, So 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.599 there's a guy his name is Baby c Mac c 0:08:55.840 --> 0:09:00.840 Mac crip mac, and he's from a gang called Rolling 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:07.320 fifties Neighborhood five five crept small gang on the west side. Right. Well, yeah, 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:11.600 because those gangs right are so it's a few of 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:15.480 them right in that section, but they very much are 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.720 a power gang. You know, they're not smarter, but they're 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.320 they're really like, you know, they they've been representing their 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.079 own section and holding it down like they're their fourth 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:27.160 and not just some You're not gonna push those guys over. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:33.520 They do their stuff, but not very large. No no, no, 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.000 it's not it's not huge. It's it's fifty fIF street, 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:42.199 a couple of streets right there. So people got a 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.760 bar of him on the internet and the way, you know, 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.800 culturally he spoke the way the fifty fifth street then speak, 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:53.120 you know, um, changing every number into five and stay. 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:57.800 Anything that feels like five as a word, they change 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.400 it into a file. So instead of saying, uh, I'll 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.640 give this to you, they say I'll give this to 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.800 I'll give this five you. So instead of two, they'll 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:16.800 say right so the game. So instead of saying you 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:23.080 feel me, they'll say you five me? Right um. Instead 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:27.240 of saying they say nickel. Anyways, it's just a complete 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:32.280 cultural thing, you know. It's community like all of our 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:43.480 communities have and are the neighborhood a pretty much every 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:48.400 gang that's a rolling gang, pretty much every gang outside 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.400 of the thirties that are rolling gang or neighborhood gangs 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.680 for the most part, I can't stand by, but I 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.920 know for sure the thirties are not a neighborhood gang. 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:01.800 They're rolling gang still, So long story short, he takes 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:08.440 the internet by storm, right, he's super super culturally phenomenal. 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.520 You know. You hear him talk is get down, you know, 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.400 and you could tell, like you know, he's been a 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:23.360 part of the culture. Well recently, Um, things from his 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.280 past started to come to forward, some things he was 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:34.640 doing when he was younger, and they aren't very cool 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.960 things to do, right, Um, as a gang member, right, 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.720 snitching is the worst thing you could do, right, that's 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.000 for sure, as any criminal, snitching is the worst thing 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.880 you could do. The second thing that's pretty crappy is 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:53.199 being a set hop Okay, like being form one set 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:57.800 and then joining another set. That's like, actually, really, at 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.400 least when I grew up, it was whack. That was 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.520 the worst thing you want to be, I mean, and 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.200 it would it would always be hard for you to 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.600 have that same respect when I came into the game, 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.320 to be a set up like you just really never 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.000 would get the same respect. And those guys really have 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:19.640 to go through a lot. Yeah, I mean, Um, long 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:23.679 story short, this these things come from his past, and 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.920 I don't know quite if he made his homies aware 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:32.280 as a whole of what his past was. But arrival 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.800 and different people from different communities started making his past 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:40.760 you know, present to where everybody would know what was 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:44.760 going on. And Mac, you know, I met Mac. He's 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.320 a real He's a good dude, cool dude, and he's 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.240 explaining himself on the Internet. He's like, Yo, this is 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:56.560 what happened. And the explanations are like, you know, they're 0:12:56.559 --> 0:13:00.400 authentic to his experience, but they do sound crazy where 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:05.439 it's like, damn long story short. So either between the 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:10.320 fact that he was from another gang, whatever the reasons were, 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:16.120 the shame itself resulted in his homies deeping what we 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:20.680 call depeeing him, disciplining him. DP stands for discipline. Right, 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.240 he has a video camera and and this is kind 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.920 of my only concern from his perspective, because I really 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:34.160 like him. My concern from his perspective right as an entertainer, 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:37.280 as a content creator, is some of this ship you 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.640 have to kind of leave in the streets. You can't 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:46.920 bring every last thing. And he's on camera on his 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.679 way to his neighborhood to get what we call a discipline. 0:13:53.000 --> 0:14:01.720 Um shows up no footage when he's leaving. He's back 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.680 on camera. Now you can tell he's been in the fight, 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.240 you know, severe that, like he's been in a real fight, 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.880 and he's explaining the things to the fans or who 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:17.520 we would call his fans at that point, and I'm 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.080 just listening to the whole thing as it's happening, like wow, 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:22.920 Like I wish he would have kept us off the 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:29.080 net now for his career and optics that one or 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.880 it was. I think it's great for his career, but 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:36.240 it's bad for his community relations as far as a 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.360 gang member. In my book, I didn't know which side 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.760 you thought it was bad for great, it's great to 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:47.600 do yourself to the general public. But and you think 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:51.200 that did that well, I I think that was the 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:54.120 first problem. Now I can't again, I'm not in the mix. 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.440 So I don't know why his homeie said, hey, you 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.000 need to come over here and run yours. I don't know. 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:05.880 But what I can and say is I don't know 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:09.240 if his homies discipline him if they were aware of 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:14.280 this information. Okay, So I would like to believe his 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:18.240 homies weren't aware of this information, and that's hence why 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:26.560 you know the discipline procedures were called into effect. Um 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:30.600 do you have a motory of that not being disciplined, 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.800 But have you had to actively discipline people from your 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.160 set over the years, are not really in your neighborhood 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:40.600 once or twice? Yeah? Um? And and this is what 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.280 I want to talk to you about. This is where 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.800 it gets crazy, right, because all of this kind of 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.160 cultural stuff really don't have relevance to you. But this 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:49.480 is where it can and this is where things come 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.880 together at. So there's two things I want to talk 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:56.720 about with you when it came to cripping in general. Right. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:03.000 The first thing is how he explain how the DP went. Right. 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:08.120 He was saying he was so good with his hands. 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.600 The first three or four guys that was disciplining him, 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:16.280 he was, I guess getting the better of him. Right. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:21.160 So now I'm not gonna pretty much tell the general 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:25.520 public you know, I was getting the better of my 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:30.120 homies in a discipline or any situation. Right. I probably 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:31.920 wouldn't tell my homies I'm getting the better of my 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.800 friends in the discipline situation, right, because that's private information 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:41.160 for me in my community. Yeah right. Um, But he's 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:48.120 explaining it, and he's saying ten or more people was 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:56.720 a part of the discipline that's not cool, like if 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:03.320 ten or more of your homies are assaulting you. I've 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:05.320 talked to a couple of o g s from the 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:09.879 East Side, West Side, different gangs, and I realized I 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.320 wasn't crazy. I don't know how much of friends we 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.760 are because real gang bang is rooted and this is 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:19.040 this is my second point. Real gang banging is rooted 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:23.280 in you know, shared experiences with people you grew up with, 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.840 right And it brings me to my next point, which 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:35.400 was when somebody is a foreigner to your soil. We've 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.479 talked about this. It's a really popular thing going on 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:45.560 right now where people are driving twenty two eighty miles 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:49.880 to join a gang in someone else's community that they 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:56.240 didn't grow up in. So those two things stuck out 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:00.680 to me with this whole particular situation. Yeah, is one 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:06.399 how many people was involved with the discipline, with the 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:10.359 with the assault, you know, and you're saying that and 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:15.399 that he's coming out the internet. I'm saying, I'm harder 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:19.200 than everybody from my hood. It took him tent or no, 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:24.240 It definitely, it definitely can have that feel. It's not 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.240 far to have that feel. I mean it definitely could 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.359 have that feel. I don't quite know if that's what 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:33.440 I got from it, but it does have a face 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.680 kind of spinning, and I don't know if it's even 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:38.840 safe face. But my issue is the fact when he 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:45.000 said ten or more yeah, right, and right after he 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.679 said this, immediately a video comes out that's not flattering 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:53.400 to to to who he is. Right, So I think again, 0:18:54.000 --> 0:19:00.600 the internet is affecting the corner like it's got to 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.520 be a different level of embarrassment. It has to be 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:07.479 a different level of pressure to keep your reputation solid. 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:12.800 But like I said, that, the ten or more people 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:19.560 disciplining you, that's a lot. I don't think even when 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:23.200 I was so this is my thing, right, And again 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.760 it goes to my second point. I wasn't the greatest 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:28.760 gang member. I didn't think I would even be good 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.920 at gang banging dog at cripp and I didn't think 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:33.800 I would be good at it because it seems like 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.960 the people involved at times, they're not all the way there. 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.560 That's how it seems. It's crazy because some of the 0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:44.240 people I know that are the most intelligent and brightest 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.479 people are guys that I've either watched, you know, I 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.480 grew up under or guys I grew up with. There's 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:55.960 some really smart, intelligent people in the culture, right sore, 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:00.439 Just so we're clear, how do you mean like the 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:04.679 driveway don't go all the way to the garage? I 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:07.199 know I know the reference, but do you mean like 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:10.280 it's because people are high, or because they're just caught 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.320 up in the moment, clouding the judgment, or like how 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:16.879 how are you saying? So the thing about gang banging, 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:23.840 right and cripping it, it's very accepting to anyone. It's 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:26.960 harder to be a boy scout than it is to 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:31.800 be a crypt. It's harder to to to be a 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:36.320 boy scout than it is to be a crypt. Like 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:42.280 gang banging is a very accepting culture. It will accept 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:48.080 societies frowned upon, you know, with open arms, and make 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:51.239 a place for you to thrive and have friends and 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:55.359 family and respect and all of these different concepts you know, 0:20:55.520 --> 0:21:01.360 to be successful. That's something. But I wasn't the greatest 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.639 cript growing up, Like I got caught it on probably 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:08.359 two days before my sixteenth birthday. I just didn't really 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.320 the niggas that courted me own right, they were niggas 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:13.040 I've been known since I was a little kid. We 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:15.320 probably was four or five years old. They're a couple 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.879 of years older than me. But again, I didn't think 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:21.000 I would be good at it. I didn't realize I 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:23.560 would be good at it until I went to jail. 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:26.639 That's when I knew I was gonna be just fine. 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:31.359 But whenever I would have moments that weren't flattering to 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:35.439 cripping or being a gangster, my homies didn't beat me 0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:39.880 up over it, right. They would take me and explain 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.480 to me, hey man, this is how you gotta do it. 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.760 Like I remember Moon, you know, my my older homie, 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.000 Moon explaining to me why I had to fight people 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:54.080 that was from the hood. I remember Pluck explaining to 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:58.440 me why I had to shoot some people, making very 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:03.359 logical sense. I remember different things where they you know, shady, 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.720 you know, them bringing the best man out of me 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:08.240 if I was gonna survive in the culture, right, bringing 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.760 the greatest man out of me. They didn't kick my 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:14.399 ass because I got it wrong. M hm. You know, 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:18.280 long as I had to the basic bare minimums together. 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:22.560 Do not tell the police on somebody else's don't implicate 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.639 someone into a crime, don't inform the police on what 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:28.439 you know about crimes, so things you know before you 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:35.440 get involved. So again I think like even in that situation, 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:40.480 it probably wasn't as bad as what happened. But it 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:44.600 goes back to that second point. Someone's a foreigner to 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:49.560 the soil. And I think the reason Moon and them 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:51.600 did me a certain way in treating me like that 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:54.360 is I've been seeing more since I was four years 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.879 old driving by. I've been seeing plugs since I was 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.320 five or six years old, shady since seven year As though, 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:04.880 my homies that are you know, my generation, they came 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:08.200 and we played in the yard together, we played basketball 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:11.080 on the street. No I would say what's up to 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.720 them when I'm walking to the store. Now we knew 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:19.040 each other since kids. Um, the guys that are young now, 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:22.960 this new generation, some of them were the first babies 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:26.440 I ever held infant, Like my little humboy watch Boy 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:30.120 Sun Troy is the second kid, you know, the second 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.720 out of the wound kid I've ever held in my life. 0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:37.560 So even right now, if me and watch Boy disagree, 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.920 that's my little man, because that is my guy. Now, 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:49.520 this nigga grown ass cripes seven children then did everything 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:52.120 he needed to do to get his respect. But no 0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:54.879 matter how I see him, I see him as this 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.080 little baby. I held, this little dude I bought stuff 0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:01.760 from off the ice cream truck for. So the bond 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.879 in in the in the in the pain in my 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:08.920 heart when something happens to him is different, you know 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.080 what I mean. It's a real that's really my little brother. 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:15.679 That's really my little nigga. Fill me no matter what, 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:19.040 whether we disagree or not. And I would hope he 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:23.440 has the same bond like Glasses is really my guy. 0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:27.359 Like we have the same bond for each other. Um, 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:30.280 but I think it's because we really grew up together. 0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:35.920 When you listen to c mac as he tells this story, specifically, 0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:40.840 he's explaining, you know, living in Chino Hills, you know, 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:46.760 somewhere to you know, when he became from Safeties somewhere 0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:51.159 after that he moved to Texas somewhere after that he 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:57.680 was in Vegas, right, So we're talking about a guy. Yeah, yeah, 0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:00.800 And I think he looks older because of you know, 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.320 his habits what I'm saying, like his health habits like 0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:05.120 drinking or you know, I don't know because I don't 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:06.960 know what, because dude, I know you drank Old English 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.440 and I know for sure old English age your ass. 0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:12.560 Yeah yeah, well, I mean the older. It's a relative term. 0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:16.640 I didn't mean he's not. I think he's a lot 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:22.360 closer to to turn in thirty then turning forty. Yeah. Yeah. 0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:25.200 But like for a guy who's like rap career is 0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:28.360 kind of young, like a lot of guys whose rap 0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:31.360 careers are kind of young can be themselves kind of young. 0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:36.840 Like you know, I think Mac is probably anywhere between 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:47.320 twenty eight and thirty, right, um, But anyway, I think 0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.160 that's the problem, and I think that's what's wrong with 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:57.440 gang banging and cripping now. Is the reason snitching is 0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:01.200 at all time high, this madness is at all time high. 0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:05.720 Is these guys don't know each other. They didn't grow 0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:09.920 up next door neighbors. They didn't play where they were 0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:12.320 five and six years old. They didn't shoot marbles with 0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:16.080 each other. They didn't walk to the store and people 0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:18.879 gave them ship because they were from this community together. 0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:21.600 Like before I was ever from the seven, I was 0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:24.960 from the seventh. Whenever I went to my pop's house 0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:27.399 on the weekend that Thursday and we go, you know, 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.880 I catched the bus to my dad house and we're there. 0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:32.800 We walking to school Friday, and we're hanging out Saturday, Sunday, 0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.520 Monday and all that. You from the seven. If you 0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.560 go to Mona Park for me and you went, you know, 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.800 I'm with Little j and I'm with Motto Rest His Soul. 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.679 And I'm with Shawny Wanni and I'm with fifty you 0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:47.320 know the hummies. Oh that's them little boys from off 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.520